Bachmann: God demands attention to tea party message

Michele Bachmann, campaigning in Sarasota, Fla. over the weekend:

“I don’t know how much God has to do to get the attention of the politicians. We’ve had an earthquake; we’ve had a hurricane. He said, ‘Are you going to start listening to me here?’ Listen to the American people because the American people are roaring right now. They know government is on a morbid obesity diet and we’ve got to rein in the spending.”

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Adam

August 29th, 2011
11:10 am

GLL: If I was to base my vote on something as shallow as “is my life better than 4 years ago” then Obama would get my vote hands down. Too bad for Obama I’m smart. But too bad for Republicans pandering to the stupid, also.

stands for decibels

August 29th, 2011
11:13 am

(Only a bit off-topic.)

While I will grant that MLB is a business that its owners can run more or less as they see fit, and there’s nothing stopping them from mandating that any song be sung at any time in the proceedings—

Anyone else beyond annoyed that, nearly ten years on now since it was first performed at a NYC ball game, we are still subjected to the jingoistic chest thumping that goes on with the strained renditions of “God Bless America” still reverberating across the fruited plain, at every seventh-inning stretch?

Stop watering down baseball’s real anthem, for crying out loud.

Ayn Rant

August 29th, 2011
11:13 am

Political Christians seem as ignorant of Christian scripture as they are of government, science, and the environment.

Representative Bachmann has invented some notion about God favoring/punishing nations. The Old Testament records only one nation favored by the God of Israel. That favored nation became “unrighteous”, so God broke up the country and scattered the people to the four winds. So much for that experiment! According to the teachings of Christ, the God of the New Testament deals with individuals, not with gangs, rallies, political parties, or nations.

Governor Perry sponsored an assembly of 40,000 people at a stadium in Houston to violate every tenet of Christ’s instructions regarding prayer. The only place an obedient Christian could pray in that stadium was in the privacy of a restroom stall. Just as Christ predicted, God did not heed the chants and wails of the misguided faithful, but Perry got his reward by a boost in the opinion polls.

Is it only ignorance, or is there a whiff of hypocrisy, as well, in political Christianity?

Gordon

August 29th, 2011
11:17 am

Adam @11:05,

If you don’t like the job Obama is doing, why don’t you and more Democrats support someone else from your party? I asked this a while ago and never got an answer? Get someone else to challenge Obama in the primary.

When one party has a particularly bad candidate, it lowers the bar for the other party to succeed. Doesn’t it say something about Obama that Perry and Bachmann have a chance?

@@

August 29th, 2011
11:21 am

While Obama clings to his cods, jay and Obama ridicule Bachmann for referring to her God.

stands for decibels

August 29th, 2011
11:23 am

I asked this a while ago and never got an answer? Get someone else to challenge Obama in the primary.

I can answer that. It’s fine if some lesser-known pol (say, a congressman like Dennis Kucinich) makes a primary challenge in order to try to get Obama focused on issues of import to progressives. On the other hand, if that Republican wet dream were to occur and someone of Hillary Clinton’s stature were to do such a thing?

Let’s just say the last time something like that happened, it didn’t turn out too well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_presidential_election#Candidates_gallery

stands for decibels

August 29th, 2011
11:23 am

jay and Obama ridicule Bachmann for referring to her God.

Another lie.

stands for decibels

August 29th, 2011
11:24 am

Economic sheets, bitches.

a reader

August 29th, 2011
11:25 am

bachman and perry exist so that a polygamist will look better.

The Thin Guy

August 29th, 2011
11:26 am

God is just upset because there is a moron in The White House claiming to be Him.

Adam

August 29th, 2011
11:27 am

GLL: Who else, though?

Good little liberal

August 29th, 2011
11:28 am

Sheets upstairs

allen981

August 29th, 2011
11:34 am

I oppose Barack Obama totally, but if Republicans nominate a Tea Party favorite, even I might vote for him. No one is more reprehensible than someone who believes they are completely right and everyone else is completely wrong, as the Tea Partiers do.

The Republicans should focus on electability, and Perry, Bachmann, Palin, et.al., don’t have it.

Romney does.

Bill Orvis White

August 29th, 2011
11:36 am

There’s a reason why the Godless Northeast received the wrath of the Lord Almighty’s punishment. The majority in the Northeast are secular-progressives who engage in debauchery, big governmentism, anti-businessism and pro-environmentalism. Now, with that fact clearly stated here on this lefty blog, the honorable Rep. Bachmann isn’t afraid to stand up to the media elitists to tell them why this once-free nation is in the toilet. I love Mrs. Bachmann for being so brave. God and the Tea Party go hand in hand because WE THE PEOPLE in this movement are fighting for what’s right and just.
Amen,
Bill

@@

August 29th, 2011
11:38 am

stands:

A lie, you say!!??!! Think again.

jay said: “Does saying those words in a Shriner’s Temple somehow make them any less objectionable?”

jay said: “The only way people learn how wacky candidates such as Bachmann are is by telling the American people what they say. You seem to prefer that we keep their wacky statements quiet, so nobody notices.”

“Wacky” and “objectionable” equate to ridicule.

Obama said: “So it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to their guns or religion…”

You’re welcome.

Obama is over

August 29th, 2011
11:47 am

So I guess the choice boils down to the fringe element making crazy statements or complete utter incompetency. As Allan Sloan in the latest Fortune cover story “American Idiots- How Washington is Destroying the Economy and What We Can Do To Fix It.” states “Some policies and statements you hear from Tea Party types about the economy and the debt markets are insane. But all that aside, at least the Tea Party have a story and message, the Obama people have none….” Do you want to focus on Obama’s reelection or do you want to address the problems affecting the United States today? Again Sloan says that over the Summer he was watching ” with increasing horror as market-illiterate know-nothings, abetted by the craven leaders of the Republican Party and the unspeakable ineptness of Obama and his minions, brought our country to within an inch of defaulting on its debt.” It is time to throw the bums out, quit cowtowing to organized labor, and get Americans back to work.

Mick

August 29th, 2011
11:51 am

bill orvis – can I ask you a serious question?

stands for decibels

August 29th, 2011
11:53 am

“Wacky” and “objectionable” equate to ridicule.

Even you’re not this thick, @@. what you said that was a lie, a clear-cut, pants-on-fire lie, was that it was her REFERRING TO GOD that was being ridiculed.

Nobody but nobody ridicules her right to refer to God. It is what she imagines God thinks that is being ridiculed, and justly so.

And you bloody well know this.

snoqualmiefalls

August 29th, 2011
11:56 am

Isn’t it amazing that when G-d talks to Bachmann, Perry, or Glen Beck, it seems the results/goals are the same as the aforementioned people.
Just amazing… how do they do that?

Ben The Independent

August 29th, 2011
11:57 am

Secular Progressives have a field day going after conservative Christian women. Next have fun with going after Palin. These women represent all that SP’s hate.

Bill Orvis White

August 29th, 2011
11:58 am

@Mick Go ahead, Mick. I can take it because I’m not like a Godless liberal who resorts to whining and name-calling.
Amen,
Bill

Joe the Plutocrat

August 29th, 2011
12:03 pm

Bill Orvis White, as much as I am sympathetic to those dealing with dimentia; when you refer to ANYONE as a “Godless liberal”; you’re resorting to name calling.

Mick

August 29th, 2011
12:03 pm

bill

My dad raised nine children as a union plumber, a god fearing man I might add from new jersey. He ran big jobs and brought them in on time and under budget. What do you have against a decent wage with benefits?

1811/0311

August 29th, 2011
12:06 pm

Plutocrat:

Thanks for your response. A couple of points.

1) Penetta was pretty upset that Biden handed up the Seals. Just sayin’.

2) You may not be aware of this but Ozwald got his job at the Texas Book Depository weeks before the President’s staff even announced that he was coming to Dallas. Then when the parade route was announced (against the wishes of the Secret Service) it became a crime of opportunity.

3) May I recommend “A Simple Act of Murder” by Mark Fuhrman

http://www.amazon.com/Simple-Act-Murder-November-1963/dp/0060721545

1811/0311

August 29th, 2011
12:07 pm

Headline: “Be advised, high school seniors: It may be harder than you think to get into Georgia’s top public colleges next year.”

As it should be.

Bill Orvis White

August 29th, 2011
12:09 pm

@Mick I’m all for decent wages and benefits if you earned them in the free marketplace. Unions are anti-business and run by thugs. A man like me was able to start his own plumbing business after years of reckless drinking. After I spun my truck out into a Mississippi ditch, Jesus’ hand led me out of the upside down vehicle and saved me. From there, I found the woman of my dreams in the hospital, went to church, attending a tech institute and started my own business. I couldn’t have done this in Taxachusetts where they would probably have locked me up in an insane asylum. Even if I could get out of a Taxachusetts state hospital and learn the trade, I would have had to join a union where thugs would confiscate my paycheck and I wouldn’t have been able to thrive. Now, I respect that your daddy raised nine children and led a Christ-centered existence, but the fact is, your daddy took orders from the union thugs and big gov’t.
Amen,
Bill

Mick

August 29th, 2011
12:09 pm

1811

We are in agreement on that, I have been to the book depository 6th floor, it was a turkey shoot especially for an ex marine. A better book was Case Closed by gerald posner – he nails it…

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Mick

August 29th, 2011
12:15 pm

bill

**Now, I respect that your daddy raised nine children and led a Christ-centered existence, but the fact is, your daddy took orders from the union thugs and big gov’t**

I’m glad you got your life together but one size does not fit all. Union thugs? That’s a pretty bad cliche and you shouldn’t paint with such a wide brush. When I was in the service I was taught to “never assume” because if you did, someone could get killed. That is your greatest weakness, otherwise your just like the rest of us trying to survive the best way we know how. There are actually a lot of good union people as there are a lot of corporate thugs – those with too much power are all part of the same hypocrisy…

bookman parrot

August 29th, 2011
12:16 pm

the ignorant and non-tolerant libs belittle what they don’t understand or want to understand.

Joe Mama

August 29th, 2011
12:20 pm

Mr. White — “After I spun my truck out into a Mississippi ditch, Jesus’ hand led me out of the upside down vehicle and saved me.”

It’s funny how these folks never seem to consider the possibility that their imaginary friend in the sky might have led them INTO the selfsame problems they give him credit for leading them out of.

Mick

August 29th, 2011
12:21 pm

bill

Just for your information, my dad did not work for the union bosses, he was the most sought after general foreman in miami because the developers knew that his jobs were done correctly and if you didn’t work to his satisfaction – you were fired. The union let him be because of his reputation for high quality work – he was more than just a plumber, he was an engineer and mechanic…

@@

August 29th, 2011
12:21 pm

stands:

Here’s the difference between liberals (jay & Obama) and people like Bachmann.

Bachmann is addressing a group directly, knowing where their interests are.

Obama, in an attempt to ingratiate himself to California’s liberals, had the audacity to talk about people (rural Americans) of which he knows nothing. He has no idea why they hold dear, their faith. He as much as said it was out of frustration. Using people for his personal gain. Subtle ridicule, if you will.

Big difference in my opinion.

As far as Bachmann goes, I haven’t given her much thought as a candidate. As it turns out, people didn’t think too much about whether Obama would make a good leader.

When all was said and done, he wasn’t the right choice.

He came, he tried, he failed.

Mick

August 29th, 2011
12:28 pm

**He came, he tried**

Heads and shoulders above anyone the other side is offering to us…

1811/0311

August 29th, 2011
12:31 pm

Mick

August 29th, 2011
12:09 pm

“1811

We are in agreement on that, I have been to the book depository 6th floor, it was a turkey shoot especially for an ex marine. A better book was Case Closed by gerald posner – he nails it…”

Thank you sir. At least someone on here has some common sense.

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Jack

August 29th, 2011
12:39 pm

Libs always, always slam Republicans when they have nothing good to say about Obama.

@@

August 29th, 2011
12:44 pm

Mick:

On one hand, I agree…Obama’s head and shoulders reside in the clouds.

Huntsman’s support for the Flat Tax impresses.

Romney and Cain’s business experience impresses.

Gingrich’s innovative ideas impress.

Ron Paul’s fiscal conservatism impresses.

Some are a little less conservative on what the left sees as critical issues. Doesn’t bother me that much.

I’ll be going with anybody but Obama. I’ve voted Democrat before so it has nothing to do with party. I would entertain an experienced black businessman like Cain, so it has nothing to do with raise.

Obama’s not a leader, he’s a self-annointing hedgehog.

@@

August 29th, 2011
12:45 pm

Oops! Make that race, not raise. Just goes to show how much attention I pay to race.

schnirt

Real American

August 29th, 2011
12:50 pm

I guess God will tell the tea party to collect their gov checks they are asking for after Irene?
What a bunch of hypocrites””””’

redneckbluedog

August 29th, 2011
12:54 pm

Good little liberal
August 29th, 2011
10:59 am

1% of the population holds 40% of the wealth in the US…With unimpeded free markets, this will exceed 60% in 4 years…Is that what you’re hoping for…? Think they may create a job with that amount..? Or, how far are you willing to go..? 75%…90%…95%…(I call that “going the full Libya”…)

Mick

August 29th, 2011
12:55 pm

@@

OK – I just disagree with your assessments. Huntsman, I like, even romney, just might be convincing. Truthfully, ii would be pretty damn near impossible for me to vote republican. Gingrich -always will be a poster boy for hypocrite…I have voted repub three times in my life, reagan twice and bush the elder..

Brad Spencer

August 29th, 2011
12:59 pm

I remember the European-predicting-an-eclipse story, but cant remember who. The 1st edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica (1768, I think) predicted eclipses up through the end of the 20th century.

stands for decibels

August 29th, 2011
1:09 pm

@@, if you’re around, apparently now Michelle Bachmann’s own campaign is “ridiculing” her Bachmann’s remarks.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-rt-us-usa-campaign-bachmann-irenetre77s2ri-20110828,0,5099906.story

Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann’s campaign said on Monday she was only joking when she described Hurricane Irene and last week’s earthquake in the eastern United States as a warning from God.

TheMinnesota congresswoman, who has gained media prominence for her fiery attacks on Democratic President Barack Obama, said in Florida that Irene was an act of God to get politicians’ attention to the debt and deficit problem.

“Of course she was saying it in jest,” Alice Stewart, spokeswoman for Bachmann’s campaign, told Reuters.

so you can get all huffy and whatnot about that, too.

Takiera

August 29th, 2011
1:14 pm

“He said, ‘Are you going to start listening to me here?”

I kinda like Michelle, she’s not afraid to say what’s on her mind. But it worries me when people presume to speak on behalf of the Almighty. Reminds me of that preacher who tries to predict the Rapture.

So tone down the God talk Michelle, or most of us are gonna tune you out.

That Black guy

August 29th, 2011
1:15 pm

F. Sinkwich

August 29th, 2011
10:03 am
Oh, good. Another lefty looney labor lacky academic with no real world experience leading Obama’s economic team.

I can feel this economy taking off like a rocket now

More like a Russian supply rocket. :lol:

Joe Mama

August 29th, 2011
1:25 pm

That Black Guy — “More like a Russian supply rocket.”

Oooo, HARSH.

DBCOOPER

August 29th, 2011
1:26 pm

Please don’t take my Tit Ms. Bacmhan. I love to do nothing and get paid. Please Mr. Bookman continue to tell these nasty rich Republicans how bad they are. I need your support.

Thank you ! I’m off to get my Obama Happy Meal.

clem

August 29th, 2011
1:38 pm

i agree with bachmann, earthquake sent to VA to wake up that dunder head cantor….what a pair of airheads

That Black guy

August 29th, 2011
1:42 pm

Mike

August 29th, 2011
10:48 am
“Republicans. You’re not doing so well with the first three (Palin, O’Donnel, and now Bachman).”

I wsn’t aware that Palin and O’Donnel (who ever that is) had announced their candidacy. Do you have a link to their campaign?

JKL2

August 29th, 2011
1:42 pm

Stands- boy, someone sure is in serious denial

You are. How many of those techniques ended with permanent damage such missing arms or legs? When I was little we had a saying “sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me”. Americans use words while the bad guys use sticks and stones. Still no comparison.

JKL2

August 29th, 2011
1:45 pm

AmVet- Too bad for the chickenhawks, we are not gonna let them…

Is that like Clinton sending prisoners to Egypt for interogation because they didn’t any “silly rules” about torture like we do?

polls don't lie

August 29th, 2011
1:49 pm

It’s interesting that two mediums in this country decide that God is bad or doesn’t exist or if you believe in God or worship, you are considered a person of indifference…or worse…. The two are the main stream press and Hollywood. While 100 million Americans attend church and worship God, a couple of hundred thousand people are defining that opinion. If you do believe as I do, You can only pray for them and mostly ignore them. The real story is that Christians represent a voting block of about 60 million that they can’t ignore, as much as they try. They are really waiting out that 50 and over Christian crowd, the ones that really see what’s going on, to die out. The 20 to mid 40’s demographics of Christians is low in numbers…and weak…..and will be able to be converted……..That’s when the curtain comes down on this great country. They are working on it everyday.

JKL2

August 29th, 2011
1:53 pm

joe mama- Releasing classified information is a crime whether someone dies as a result of it or not.

Answer: Valerie Plame. She was openly known by the name in DC. It was pinned on Scooter Libby but was really Bob Woodward.

Now ask all those families of those dead Navy Seals if there is a difference between releasing classified information v. outting the name of an inactive operative. I’m sure they’ll be able to come up with a good answer for you.

dbm

August 29th, 2011
1:53 pm

@ SoGaVet

August 29th, 2011
8:04 am

Herbert Hoover propped up wages and prices, pricing people, goods, and services out of the market and thus prolonging and worsening the depression. If he had done nothing as you say, things would have been better.

Guest

August 29th, 2011
1:55 pm

What was God saying when He gave us 9/11 and Katrina?

oldguy

August 29th, 2011
2:01 pm

Ah Jay,
It’s good to see you got the memo from the DNC…..
i.e. “obama has nothing good in his first 3 years he can run on sooooo attack all Republican candidates on anything possible so the voters will be distracted from the Obama disaster”
The check is in the mail.

GM

August 29th, 2011
2:02 pm

I can not wait to see big bad gov issue out checks to tea party hypocrits for Irene””I wonder how many are going to turn it down”’

Bill Schmalfeldt (@ParkyBill)

August 29th, 2011
2:08 pm

God has issued His official response.

http://bit.ly/mZbkoD

clem

August 29th, 2011
2:08 pm

old guy, yea the repubs are totally blameless for the state of affairs…go ahead and vote bachmann

oldguy

August 29th, 2011
2:12 pm

I’ll vote “none of the above” before I would vote to return the Obama disaster!!

oldguy

August 29th, 2011
2:19 pm

Hey GM
unlike many of the Obama voters almost all of us TEA party people actually pay income taxes and there are a FEW things the Imperial Federal Government is actually tasked to do, one of which is disaster relief (and national defense and border security).

GM

August 29th, 2011
2:23 pm

oldguy

Its call being a hypocrite:
Thanks President for not flying around in a plan after the hurricane, but staying in the command center, Oh I forgot, you can not get any credit because well you know why””’

Mama Says

August 29th, 2011
2:39 pm

Bottom line is that she is saying we are spending to much—–understand now libs ?

by the way the money the feds give “us” back goes to the state, who then distributes it. Why not leave it to the state to begin with ? Oh I forgot, it’s so the feds can decide who gets what !

Dan H

August 29th, 2011
2:43 pm

In the months ahead, we can expect to see the movement become more angry, more volatile, and even more dangerous as it desperately seeks to remain relevant, but as the recent polling has shown, it is far, far too late for the Tea Party Movement to save itself or the hateful doctrine it embraces. It was always a movement founded on lies, disinformation and fear and such a movement cannot, and will not survive in the greatest country in the world. http://wp.me/pNmlT-JV

kayaker 71

August 29th, 2011
2:43 pm

Now we’re hearing that Rick Perry is stupid….. courtesy of Politico. They are now airing his transcripts from Texas A&M and revealing that he was a C+ student. Well, he might be an improvement on that bunch of East Coast aristocrats who still can’t figure out how to make this economy turn around and lessen the unemployment figures. Bozo appoints yet another Princeton economist to help him with his math….. someone with no business experience, a total liberal academic. Thought his gang was already composed of these kinds of people. Sure ain’t working very well, Bozo. What makes you think that this will be any different?

GM

August 29th, 2011
2:45 pm

If we are spending to much then, all those people whom house are damage lets not give any fed money let the state take care of them because we see what a good job the state has done in Georgia.
You people on the right can not be this crazy,
I know we are going to let Hannity, Rush, Sara put their millions away for a second and go out and help those poor people that lost everything. Ha, Ha

kayaker 71

August 29th, 2011
2:51 pm

Dan H,

“That hateful evil doctrine”. Simply put, less government, less spending and less taxes. Self reliance, accountability, honesty…. what’s wrong with these concepts? Fill me in on how evil these principles are?

DawgDad

August 29th, 2011
3:00 pm

Well, people, God certainly isn’t likely to be demanding our attention to the Marxist message. Within the political arena Ms. Bachmann is well within her rights to speak her mind and you are free to make your own choices. Just don’t tread on me.

joe

August 29th, 2011
3:03 pm

God aside, everything she said is dead on. Instead of poking fun at religious Christians who are fine upstanding US citizens, take a look at what our current leader is doing to harm our country and consider how much better off we’ll be once he is out of office. Do you want another 4 years of anti-american policy from our president, high unemployment and out of control spending, or do you want real change that will benefit our country? Easy call folks…

stands for decibels

August 29th, 2011
3:07 pm

How many of those techniques ended with permanent damage such missing arms or legs

So if you aren’t missing arms or legs, you weren’t tortured. oookay.

stands for decibels

August 29th, 2011
3:07 pm

Now we’re hearing that Rick Perry is stupid…

only just now?

I’ve been hearing that from actual residents of Texas for years.

redneckbluedog

August 29th, 2011
3:10 pm

@Bill Orvis White
August 29th, 2011
12:09 pm

So I’m assuming you’re going to vote Parry….Bachmann is a Yankee and Romney and Huntsman..well…..

ODD OWL

August 29th, 2011
3:41 pm

Rep. Michele bachmann is so presumptuous and pumped full of pompous arrogance that she actually presume to speak for this dude the extreme right wing, evangelical Christians and their mentally enslaved Black Christians call God. I assume she’s talking about Yahuda, JHVH, Jehovah, Yahweh, Allah and his son Je-sus. This Zionist, Christian, Islamic Deity have many names. What’s the true name of that Deity that goes by many names ??? Rep. Bachmann should always remember that when worshippers talk to their “God,” we call it prayer. But when the “God” begin talking to the worshipper, we call the mental health clinic.

Billybob

August 29th, 2011
4:03 pm

jay,
still haven’t quite reached those straws yet have you……..liberals on this blog are funny and isolating themselves daily from the direction this country is moving in due in large part to hussein and their own radical leftist ideology…….so enjoy reaping what your ilk has sewn…..yes i said ilk…..enough said

@@

August 29th, 2011
4:04 pm

stands:

Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann’s campaign said on Monday she was only joking

Which is exactly what I assumed she was doing. It’s a shame Ms. Stewart had to take the time to explain it to people like you and jay.

Much ado about nothing. While our economy is cliffhanging, left-wingers tend to focus on matters of less importance. I think it’s their attempt to distract from more serious matters.

Billybob

August 29th, 2011
4:05 pm

another GM looking for bailouts huh? priceless……

Billybob

August 29th, 2011
4:06 pm

dems are out of bullets and all they have left are the tried and true false liberal media templates…..it’s too easy at this point…

Billybob

August 29th, 2011
4:11 pm

jay,
obama ‘insinuated’ the power of god and said he was going to lower the oceans……any comment on that one……….or did you believe him…….

SwedeAtlanta

August 29th, 2011
4:12 pm

Billybob, so you would have preferred to let GM go under? How either naive of you or hateful.

Without the assistance of the federal government, GM almost assuredly would have been liquidated. Reorganization without the guarantees from Washington would have been nearly impossible. Not only would you have seen the rest of the GM workforce join the unemployed but it would have affected millions of Americans whose livelihoods were directly or indirectly dependent on the automotive industry.

Losing GM would have furthered the deterioration in our economy in terms of our knowledge and capacity to manufacture things. Recall that during times of war the federal government relies on manufaturers to make the necessities of war.

GM has indeed turned around and is growing, i.e. hiring Americans.. They have already paid back the majority of what they owe the federal government. This is nothing but a success story.

But you can’t give this President any credit. At least when we were attacked on 9-11 I didn’t say well the idiot in the White House let it happen. I stood with him and the American people.

You seem to hate the auto workers and everyone who depends on the auto industry for their livelihoods. And I’ll bet you had your seat in a pew in church yesterday just assured in getting your wings and personal cloud in heaven alongside the big JC.

Joe Mama

August 29th, 2011
4:16 pm

JKL2 — “joe mama- Releasing classified information is a crime whether someone dies as a result of it or not.”

Nope. If “Colonel Jones” (with a Top Secret clearance) tells you something classified that you are not authorized to know (or passes on classified information to you in some form), then “Colonel Jones” is in violation of the law.

If my wife tells you something classified that you are not authorized to know, my wife is not in violation of the law because she hasn’t got and has never had a security clearance. However, Federal authorities will be very interested in how she came to know that classified information.

“Answer: Valerie Plame. She was openly known by the name in DC.”

Her status and identity were classified information and she had worked on classified operations in the recent past.

“It was pinned on Scooter Libby but was really Bob Woodward.”

Which raises the question of how Woodward found out.

“Now ask all those families of those dead Navy Seals if there is a difference between releasing classified information v. outting the name of an inactive operative.”

Her identity and role were classified at the time she was outed. She had worked in a classified role a short time before she was outed. Publicly identifying her was a crime, if an authorized person passed that information on to an unauthorized one. I’d like to know who did it.

“I’m sure they’ll be able to come up with a good answer for you.

Your specious response makes it clear to me that ideology trumps national security with you.

Joe Mama

August 29th, 2011
4:18 pm

Joe — “take a look at what our current leader is doing to harm our country and consider how much better off we’ll be once he is out of office. Do you want another 4 years of anti-american policy from our president, high unemployment and out of control spending, or do you want real change that will benefit our country? Easy call folks…”

This is exactly what I was saying in 2007 and 2008.

common cents

August 29th, 2011
4:27 pm

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common cents

August 29th, 2011
4:31 pm

you can tell the liberal progressive nut jobs by the amount of mud they sling !!!!! If you dont have an origional thought, yell or cloud an issue !!!!! How pathetic !!!!!

Sandra

August 29th, 2011
4:56 pm

@Alan,
Republicans love to spread the wealth too….however, they only want to spread it to those who are already VERY wealthy….and able to give them huge campaign donations. Their votes are for sale to the highest bidder. The Tea party is no better.

Joe Mama

August 29th, 2011
5:12 pm

common cents — “you can tell the liberal progressive nut jobs by the amount of mud they sling !!!!! If you dont have an origional thought, yell or cloud an issue !!!!! How pathetic !!!!!”

(laughing, pointing) :D

Gordon

August 29th, 2011
5:15 pm

I saw the clip of this. It was obviously a joke. The crowd was laughing as she said it and she was smiling as she said it. Just as I suspected.

Has it really gotten this bad for the Democrats?

Mark Montgomery

August 29th, 2011
5:19 pm

I love it when Michele Bachmann runs her trap about something as stupid as thinking some imaginary man up in the sky is punishing us because of our behavior. The more she yaps the bigger the hole she digs herself into and hopefully she will never see the GOP nomination. Let’s be clear about one thing: the tea party is the present day KKK. The tea party is a small group of old, white, rich racists who hate minorities, muslims, the middle class and the poor and hide their racism behind “states’ rights”. Rick Perry is a perfect example of a typical southern racist KKK member. We have to fight the tea party like the cancer that it is. Mark Montgomery NYC, NY boboberg@nyc.rr.com

I Gots to Know

August 29th, 2011
5:20 pm

A Detroit, black, female journalist claims the earthquake and hurricane were caused by MLK who wasn’t ready for his memorial ceremony to be conducted because he wasn’t happy with the state of our affairs.

The American civil rights movement was to come full circle today as its soldiers were to gather on the National Mall in Washington, D.C., to celebrate a fallen captain.

But there was no celebration.

Not yet. It was too soon.

First, there was an earthquake. Then there was a hurricane. What in the world could be going on?

Nothing in the world. That was just Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., above the world, shutting down the celebration, getting our attention and telling us to take a good look at ourselves.

Who knew that MLK possessed the same power as God?
Answer: A Detroit Press, black, female journalist named Rochelle Riley.
But we can’t say Rochelle is crazy because she is a Detroit, black, female journalist.

Also, she refers to adherents of the civil rights movement as “soldiers”. Does this mean they are part of a militia?

GM

August 29th, 2011
5:22 pm

joe

Another idiot, I bet you can not explain why unemployment is around 5% in many states. Idiots like you vote for crooked Rep in Georgia year after year and expect the same results, Obama has not been President but 3 years so explain why Georgia been screwed up the last 10 years?

WOODSTOCK MIKE

August 29th, 2011
5:51 pm

“Obama has not been President but 3 years so explain why Georgia been screwed up the last 10 years?”

What’s screwed up about Georgia? Gotta love these whining liberals blaming someone else for their own downfalls. Georgia’s been good for me the last 10 years. If you blame a governor for why you don’t have a job you are a true Democrat. This blog gets so old with you fringe left liberals.

And GM, what states are at 5% unemployment? I will tell you, Nebraska, New Hampshire, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Wyoming. Gosh you wouldn’t think that has anything to do with population would ya??

TruthBe

August 29th, 2011
5:53 pm

Jay you should be fair and unbias but you can’t because you are owned by the perverted liars of the liberal democrats inwhich you are one of. If you were a honest person you wouldn’t have taken her speech that was intended for humor out of contrast. Why don’t you copy and paste the entire speech in her words not yours and let the readers make up their own minds. And why don’t you go after Obama and his lies. Because as you know he is the front runner in the democrat contenders. Using your guide. And Granny you are one of the dumbest people that has ever blogged. Jay get real your biases are making you look so stupid and dishonest.

Martin Williams

August 29th, 2011
5:53 pm

She is plain stupid and nothing else to add to that. I know some GOP idiots are going nuts too.

Mama Says

August 29th, 2011
6:05 pm

Lets see GM, who is crazy.

YOUR PLAN

The feds take money from each citizen in each state and then decides how much, if any, we get back when the storms come.

RIGHTS PLAN

Eliminate the feds triple taxation policy (since the state and counties already taxes us also) Let the taxpayers keep the money in their state and let the state decide where the money should go within THEIR state.

by the way, the feds just hand out the money they don’t rebuild your house, the local contractor will rebuild it regardless of what government (fed or state) the money comes from

TruthBe

August 29th, 2011
6:05 pm

Hey GM, Why is the City of Atlanta, Fulton, Dekalb, Clayton Counties is such bad shape? Easy because they have been ran for almost 40 years now by dishonest democrat Black racist pimps. So ask yourself this, where is the true diversity and equality that MLK talked about? It’s not from you Black Folks. Whites have bent over backwards for decades to try and applease Blacks. It’s time for Whites to stop this and start looking after their own just like you folks do. Obama sure isn’t. And that MLK monument is a disgrace. Made in China, what a joke and a price tag of 120 million dollars. Sounds like so of the brothers have ran up the price tag little. What we can’t make a good monument here in America to honor our heros?

RW-(the original)

August 29th, 2011
6:22 pm

What exactly are you trying to say here?

That politicians pander.

I thought it was fairly explicit and I guess the drive by tag really is a waste of time.

dbm

August 29th, 2011
7:40 pm

@ GM

August 29th, 2011
2:23 pm

There is nothing hypocritical about accepting a government handout when available, provided one is leading a basically productive life and does not vote, lobby, campaign, or argue for anything improper. Productive people pay more in direct and indirect taxes than they will ever receive in handouts, and are victimized in other ways.

JKL2

August 29th, 2011
8:02 pm

joe mama- Valerie Plame. She was openly known by the name in DC.” Which raises the question of how Woodward found out.

That 2+2 stuff can be quite a mystery to the Demwit faithful.

Breaking the law is breaking the law. But there is a big difference between a felony and a parking ticket. Too bad you see them both as the same offense. I guess your one of those sharia law kind of guys.

No problem with national security for me either. No skeletons hiding in my closet. Can’t say the same about obama or most of the people he hangs out with.

Billybob

August 29th, 2011
10:35 pm

swedeatlanta, 4:12
your points are based on random assumptions and then you state i am a hateful, stupid, christian………brilliant my friend……this elementary school stuff doesn’t shut your opponents down anymore and like i have said here many times, all you radical leftists please keep talking b/c you are doing great things……for conservatism………..

Joe Mama

August 30th, 2011
9:15 am

MIKE — “Gotta love these whining liberals blaming someone else for their own downfalls. Georgia’s been good for me the last 10 years. If you blame a governor for why you don’t have a job you are a true Democrat. This blog gets so old with you fringe left liberals.”

So what’s all that say about your ideological compatriots who slag on the President regarding jobs? If it’s BS to level blame at a governor for the lack of jobs, then it’s just as ridiculous to blame a President, too.