With latest success, ’strategic defeat’ of al Qaida within reach
From AP:
WASHINGTON — U.S. and Pakistani officials said Saturday that al-Qaida’s second-in-command, Atiyah Abd al-Rahman, has been killed in Pakistan, delivering another big blow to a terrorist group that the U.S. believes to be on the verge of defeat.
Since Navy SEALs stormed Osama bin Laden’s compound and killed him in May, the Obama administration has been unusually frank in its assessment that al-Qaida is on the ropes, its leadership in disarray. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said last month that al-Qaida’s defeat was within reach if the U.S. could mount a string of successful attacks.
“Now is the moment, following what happened with bin Laden, to put maximum pressure on them,” Panetta said, “because I do believe that if we continue this effort we can really cripple al-Qaida as a major threat.”
A Libyan national, al-Rahman never had the worldwide name recognition of bin Laden or bin Laden’s successor, Ayman al-Zawahiri. But al-Rahman was regarded as an instrumental figure in the terrorist organization, trusted by bin Laden to oversee al-Qaida’s daily operations….
Senior al-Qaida figures have been killed before, only to be replaced. But the Obama administration’s tenor reflects a cautious optimism that victory in the decade-long fight against al-Qaida could be at hand.
“It does hold the prospect of a strategic defeat, if you will, a strategic dismantling, of al-Qaida,” incoming CIA Director David Petraeus said in July.
Two weeks from tomorrow, we mark the 10th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks. It has taken longer than most Americans probably expected, and it has come at a higher cost than almost anybody anticipated, but we can now mark the occasion with at least some satisfaction that justice — at least the type of justice within our earthly power — has been served.
– Jay Bookman
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Zap Rowsdower
August 28th, 2011
3:13 pm
Kamchak
I know, just messing with you.
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
3:17 pm
Good Little Liberal
August 28th, 2011
1:51 pm
“Scout,
Thanks for your service. Please remember that cowards will never give men of honor their due. Trust me when I tell you that the people that matter know what you did and why you did it. I’m heading to the lake with a green beret and I read what these fools have been saying. I can’t print what he wanted to say.”
Oh, I know and thank you much. For some strange reason I enjoy toying with them.
I think they feel the way they do because in their hearts they know they are kept by better men than themselves.
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
3:20 pm
JKL2:
………….. and what really gets them is they still have to pay taxes for my retirement !
Zap Rowsdower
August 28th, 2011
3:24 pm
“how did you prepare that rat?”
Just looked at you and went from there. It was pretty easy to serve up. Tell your relatives thanks for me.
“I can recommend a good marinade.”
I’m sure you can, cupcake.
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
3:26 pm
Mary Elizabeth:
We obviously have a big disagreement and thus the headwaters of your confusion.
Two points:
1) “In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.”
2) The Trinity is a concept the human mind can not really understand but I believe the Bible teaches it is nonetheless true. The Holy Spirit is not greater than Jesus or God. They are “One” and the same ………….. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. One God.
“The Christian doctrine of the Trinity defines God as three divine persons (Greek: ὑποστάσεις) — Father, Son, and Holy Spirit — distinctly coexisting in unity as co-equal, co-eternal, and consubstantial (Greek: ὁμοούσιοι), or of one being (Greek: οὐσία).[2] The Trinity itself is considered to be a mystery of Christian faith.
According to this doctrine, God exists as three persons but is one God, meaning that God the Son and God the Holy Spirit have exactly the same nature or being as God the Father in every way. Whatever attributes and power God the Father has, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit have as well. “Thus, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are also eternal, omnipresent, omnipotent, infinitely wise, infinitely holy, infinitely loving, omniscient.”
3) Outside of this belief, cults of various doctrinal error are born.
getalife
August 28th, 2011
3:27 pm
Scout is too partisan to celebrate this huge victory.
Mr Right
August 28th, 2011
3:27 pm
Funny: 5000 years ago, Moses said to Israel, “Pick up your shovels, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to the Promised Land.” When Welfare was introduced, Roosevelt said, “Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses, and light up a Camel, this is the Promised Land.” Now the government has stolen your shovel, taxed your asses, raised the price of Camels and mortgaged the Promised Land to China
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
3:29 pm
For the “Anonymous One”
“I have the sense from time to time that I am not alone, and I suspect that despite the limited understanding we have of events in distant places, there will always be those among us who have the gleam of the quest in their eyes. They are people of every sex and station and they yearn to be challenged to a cause. They will always be looking for that wrong to right, that ill to cure, that song to sing; and there will always be those who will go to arms in aid of the helpless and the downtrodden. Ignoring the political issues of the moment, these people will champion the weak and the poor in the face of evil and tyranny. And no matter what the outcome, in their romantic hearts they will always keep the secret, if secret it must be, that they are better men for having held the lamp beside the golden door”.
David Donovan
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
3:30 pm
getalife supports Islamic terrorism and al Qaida because they want us to think we have won.
getalife
August 28th, 2011
3:30 pm
mr wrong.
Can you celebrate this victory or are you too partisan like scout.?
Kamchak
August 28th, 2011
3:32 pm
Funny: 5000 years ago…
It was funny when I first heard that joke from my grandfather.
Now?
Not so much
getalife
August 28th, 2011
3:32 pm
The CIA director Patraeus disagrees with you scout.
I think I will take his word because you are too partisan.
Too con if you will.
Thulsa Doom
August 28th, 2011
3:35 pm
Zap Rowsdower
August 28th, 2011
2:47 pm
“Narcissist and meth-head sociopath Ayn Rand”
“There’s your sign.”- ZAP
Just tuning in for the first time all weekend. Now THAT post was funny.
@@
August 28th, 2011
3:35 pm
Team Obama is anticipating problems with the Jewish vote. Their support has dropped 18%. They just hired a frontman to try and repackage the damaged goods.
Joe the Plutocrat
August 28th, 2011
3:36 pm
got to this thing a little late (in the words of Judge Schmales of Bushwodd C.C.; “…don’t you people have homes?”), but I tend to agree with Kamchak; al Qeada is just a brand, but there are plenty of others in the same “vertical”. the bigger issue is the broad scope of “the war on terrorism” which has brought us everything from the Patriot Act, to GITMO to a $1- $2 trillion/year two theatre war (which just happens to be being waged in the two most strategic venues of the 21st century; Central Asia and the Middle East. back in the 20th century, we awere told that Communism was the boogie man (threat to all that is good) it was Europe and SE Asia. not entirely simpatico, but look at the “successful” aspects of our war on terrorism; small unit special operations and Predator/UAV surveillance and strikes. we don’t need 50,000 or 150,000 “boots on the ground” anymore than we need U.S. bases in Europe or Japan.
Mr Right
August 28th, 2011
3:37 pm
About the only success Obama had was in continuing the policies of Bush!
getalife
August 28th, 2011
3:39 pm
“Just tuning in for the first time all weekend.”
Why would you say that?
You sound guilty.
Zap Rowsdower
August 28th, 2011
3:39 pm
“The CIA director Patraeus disagrees with you scout.”
Is this the same guy that you and other rats called Betrayer?
Hypocrates
August 28th, 2011
3:41 pm
and what really gets them is they still have to pay taxes for my retirement !
Suckling on the very government teat that you don’t want others to have.
Zap Rowsdower
August 28th, 2011
3:41 pm
“Team Obama is anticipating problems with the Jewish vote.”
As well as every other ethnic group minus black people.
getalife
August 28th, 2011
3:42 pm
zap,
Code pink called him Betrayus because they are anti war.
We use facts on this blog.
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
3:43 pm
Zap:
LOL ! Yes ………… but they still like to pick and chose to make up their points.
getalife:
Petraeus (spelled correctly by the way) is a “political” appointment. Need I say more?
getalife
August 28th, 2011
3:43 pm
“As well as every other ethnic group minus black people.”
Lie.
Your party attacked every American except the cons.
You will lose .
Thulsa Doom
August 28th, 2011
3:43 pm
Someone mentioned the Patriot Act. Didn’t Obama give us a campaign promise that when he was potus that the Patriot Act would be repealed?
Its a funny thing but I remember all the hell Bush caught over the Patriot Act and how the Patriot Act was such an issue in the media during W. Now that Obama is potus I’ve never heard a peep about how bad the Patriot Act is in constraining the freedoms of American citizens. Not one peep from the media about the patriot act since Obama became potus. Wonder why that is?
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
3:43 pm
Zap:
Stop it ……………….. you’re killing me !
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
3:45 pm
Thulsa:
“Wonder why that is?”
Because libs. have a bias beyond belief and they will not depart from it for any reason.
getalife
August 28th, 2011
3:45 pm
scout,
He won and you lost.
Never go against your country because you are too con.
What is wrong with you?
Just Another Anonymous One
August 28th, 2011
3:46 pm
and what really gets them is they still have to pay taxes for my retirement !
That Bush was something else, wasn’t he.
Thulsa Doom
August 28th, 2011
3:47 pm
He was only named General Betrayus by the media when he was under Bush I think. Now that Obama is potus is just General Petrayus. You guys got it now? Under Bush he is general Betrayus and a bad general and under Obama he is general petrayus and a good general. If you’re confused just stick with the general news media guideline so that you won’t get mixed up- Bush=bad; Obama= good.
Jm
August 28th, 2011
3:47 pm
As far as jay’s post goes.
I’d say we are winning some important battles and Obama is doing a good job. To say they are defeated and we’ve won the war, that seems ridiculous and a long ways off.
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
3:48 pm
“Libya’s new ruling council will not extradite Lockerbie bomber Abdel Basset al-Megrahi, says the justice minister for the National Transitional Council, Reuters reports.
Some U.S. politicians had called on the new Libyan leaders to turn him over to the United States, but Justice Minister Mohammed al-Alagi said in Tripoli, “We will not give any Libyan citizen to the West.”
Well, there you go getalife …………….. the dreaded “West”.
getalife
August 28th, 2011
3:48 pm
They should cut scout’s retirement like he cut and ran from his country.
Cut that waste.
Thulsa Doom
August 28th, 2011
3:49 pm
Scout,
Sho nuff. We see it every day. Funny thing but along with the Patriot Act the media doesn’t seem to give a damn about gitmo either. I guess the manufactured controversy around GITMO died with W also.
out of the blue
August 28th, 2011
3:49 pm
Scout says ” and what really gets them is they still have to pay taxes for my retirement !
Talk about shallow. Now, one can see from your own words why you are such a partisan zealot!
You care not that the people who’ve spent their entire lives paying into social security face an uncertain future if the republicans can ever muster the votes.
While you TAKE from the very taxpayers who pay your monthly salary…not to mention the VA.
And, guess what you hypocrite? I also enjoy those benefits too, but unlike you, I feel compassion for my fellow Americans. So get off your highhorse, and go preach what a man of God you are!
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
3:50 pm
Anonymous:
“The Associated Press asks “Are military pensions too generous,” which in terms of precision is a little like asking “How’s your wife?” (In both cases, “compared to what” comes into play.) The AP reports that the Obama administration is thinking of shifting both the form and the generosity of military pensions.”
We can play this game all day.
Jm
August 28th, 2011
3:50 pm
Jay, really u should consider letting WOW back on unless you just honestly want to admit having a tilted playing field in favor of libs.
Getalife and wow are 2 sides of the same coin.
Thulsa Doom
August 28th, 2011
3:51 pm
We are close to eliminating al-quaeda? Surely Jay jests.
Just Another Anonymous One
August 28th, 2011
3:51 pm
I think I read somewhere that Cantor and Ryan will be cutting those government employee pensions and healthcare benefits as part of their plan to reduce the size of government. That likely explains why 1811 supports their efforts. Much like elderly Tea Party members that support Republican efforts to eliminate social security and medicare.
getalife
August 28th, 2011
3:53 pm
“I’d say we are winning some important battles and Obama is doing a good job.”
Did it hurt you to post that truth?
Tell the other cons it is okay to celebrate this fact and it will not hurt them.
I bet they still can’t do it.
Too con.
Thulsa Doom
August 28th, 2011
3:53 pm
Jm,
We all know that about wow and getalife. But are you forgetting the basic rule of the media? Conservative= bad; lib=good. It just wouldn’t be fair if we held consrvatives and libs to the same standard. Ya gotta have low standards for libs and high standards for cons to make it fair.
Zap Rowsdower
August 28th, 2011
3:53 pm
“Your party attacked every American except the cons.”
The only way that sentence would make sense is if I dropped a whole sheet of acid.
Doggone/GA
August 28th, 2011
3:53 pm
“He was only named General Betrayus by the media when he was under Bush I think”
Not according to Jay. Jay has posted here several times that that nickname predates the media picking it up.
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
3:54 pm
Blue:
Too bad …………… thousands and thousands of us earned it.
……………… and most diehard libs. hate it that they have to pay taxes for military and or law enforcement people.
You’ll just have to get over it.
getalife
August 28th, 2011
3:54 pm
“It does hold the prospect of a strategic defeat, if you will, a strategic dismantling, of al-Qaida,” incoming CIA Director David Petraeus said in July.
Can you read doom?
It is not Jay con.
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
3:55 pm
No …………. too smart.
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
3:55 pm
getalife:
Read my lips …………. “CIA Director Petraeus is a POLITICAL appointee”.
getalife
August 28th, 2011
3:56 pm
“Jay has posted here several times that that nickname predates the media picking it up.”
I missed that.
Who said it?
Just Another Anonymous One
August 28th, 2011
3:56 pm
and most diehard libs. hate it that they have to pay taxes for military and or law enforcement people.
Those are Republicans that are trying to cut government, 1811. Then again, I suppose many of those Republicans are “libs”.
Zap Rowsdower
August 28th, 2011
3:56 pm
“It is not Jay con.”
What’s “Jay con?”
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
3:57 pm
“Infiltration of the federal government by members of the radical Muslim Brotherhood is worse than some have warned recently, says a former FBI special agent in Washington.
The agent confirmed that at least three operatives of the Egypt-based Brotherhood – whose credo is “Jihad is our way and death in the cause of Allah is our dream” – have penetrated the Obama administration.
The shocking charge was first leveled by Muslim reformer Tarek Fatah during a recent speech in Toronto.
“When someone says that there is penetration of jihadi Islamists within society, do not dismiss it as some right-wing, xenophobic, racist rant,” warned Fatah, a Canadian journalist.
“Today in the White House, there are three members of the Muslim Brotherhood that influence Obama’s policy,” he told the audience gathered for an IdeaCity conference. “One is Rashad Hassan, who is the American ambassador to the 52-nation Organization of Islamic (Conference).”
getalife
August 28th, 2011
3:57 pm
scout,
Read my lips.
No new guvs from Texas.
Kamchak
August 28th, 2011
3:57 pm
Jay, really u should consider letting WOW back on…
That poster was originally Communist AJC whom Jay banned.
He came back as LA, whom Jay banned.
He came back as Who Dat?, whom Jay banned.
He came back as WOW, whom Jay banned.
He came back as Grand Forks, whom Jay banned.
When you start a blog, you can run it as you see fit.
Try blogspot.com.
Tommy Maddox
August 28th, 2011
3:58 pm
…and the drive-by insults continue.
Midori
August 28th, 2011
3:58 pm
Zap:
Stop it ……………….. you’re killing
as low as your standards are, it’s now wonder.
one step up from a feather to a bare foot.
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
3:58 pm
Anonymous:
O.K. one more time:
The AP reports that the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION is thinking of shifting both the form and the generosity of military pensions.”
Doggone/GA
August 28th, 2011
3:59 pm
“Who said it?”
Jay did. I’m going on a distant memory here, because it’s been a while since it came up…but if I remember correctly, Jay has said several times that he heard that term used by soldiers.
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
3:59 pm
Midori:
Good ………… you’re back.
Just Another Anonymous One
August 28th, 2011
3:59 pm
1811 is kept by a better man than himself but Obama is not one to brag.
You better be nice to our President Obama or else he might go along with the Republicans and agree to cut your pension and healthcare benefits.
Uncle Jed
August 28th, 2011
3:59 pm
Good Little Liberal
August 27th, 2011
6:09 pm
Jay
Come on Jay.
The mission accomplished banner was for the crew of the carrier and their mission was accomplished. That crack was beneath you.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Obviously, I haven’t been around here as of late. After reading the article and the first 10 or 12 posts, including Jay’s wise crack about Bush, which I agree was beneath Jay, I think I will wait for some new sheets and a new string of comments.
Anyone that would suggest that this latest news is not good is strange. Likewise, anyone that would suggest that the current president should be given full credit for the accomplishments of countless numbers of intelligence and military personnel is stranger. For crying out loud, we were/are all in this mission together, that being to protect ourselves from terrorists. To reduce the conversation to partisan politics is to dishonor and disrespect. To condemn Bush while elevating Obama is the strangest of all. Like it or not WE got after their ass and it is paying dividends.
Just Another Anonymous One
August 28th, 2011
4:01 pm
1811,
OK one more time, Bush would not agree to a 0.5% increase in military pay.
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
4:01 pm
Anonymous:
I can accept whatever the American people want for all of us veterans/government workers as determined by their elected representatives.
Let ‘er rip.
getalife
August 28th, 2011
4:01 pm
“The AP reports that the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION is thinking of shifting both the form and the generosity of military pensions.”
Just the cons like you that are on record for not supporting their country should be cut.
Your actions should have consequences.
AmVet
August 28th, 2011
4:02 pm
Yep, the MOTs are all gonna vote for Michele Batsh*t! Or Maybe Herman “NO MUSLIMS!” Cain? Rick “Flat-earth” Perry? Newt Gangrene?
BWAAHAHAHAHA.
PRINCETON, NJ — Jewish Americans gave President Barack Obama a 60% job approval rating in June, down from 68% in May, but statistically unchanged from 64% in April.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/148373/solid-majority-jewish-americans-approve-obama.aspx
Most Jewish contributors (82 percent) to the 2008 Obama campaign will continue to contribute to the 2012 reelection campaign.
http://jstreet.org/blog/american-jews-continue-to-back-president-obama-us-engagement-in-israeli-palestinian-conflict/
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
4:02 pm
Anonymous:
So? Federal workers got a zero per cent cost of living increase this year.
Next.
Zap Rowsdower
August 28th, 2011
4:02 pm
“as low as your standards are, it’s now wonder.”
Speak english.
getalife
August 28th, 2011
4:03 pm
“I can accept whatever the American people want for all of us veterans/government workers as determined by their elected representatives.
Let ‘er rip.”
Great.
You volunteered.
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
4:03 pm
getalife:
Guess what? You don’t get to decide.
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
4:04 pm
getalife:
Exactly ! You finally got one thing right today.
Brosephus
August 28th, 2011
4:04 pm
For crying out loud, we were/are all in this mission together, that being to protect ourselves from terrorists. To reduce the conversation to partisan politics is to dishonor and disrespect.
UJ
AMEN!!! That’s an eight lane superhighway here, but I don’t expect either side to quit playing the blame game. It’s too much a part of the national conversation now. Seeing our military personnel come home day after day was enough for me to get tired of the partisaned crap. Some days, I wish there was a reset button that would remove all traces of partisanship from this country. Until the people here grow up, things will not change.
Thulsa Doom
August 28th, 2011
4:04 pm
Doggone,
Nope. Supposedly there are troops who have posted general betrayus on different message boards in typical gi griping. But the reality is that the media picked it up and ran with it after the full page ad by none other than moveon.org. Straight from wiki-
The MoveOn.org ad controversy began when the anti-war liberal advocacy group MoveOn.org published a full-page ad in The New York Times on September 10, 2007 accusing General David H. Petraeus of “cooking the books for the White House”. The ad also labeled him “General Betray Us”.[1] The organization created the ad in response to Petraeus’ Report to Congress on the Situation in Iraq. MoveOn hosted pages on its website about the ad and their reasons behind it from 2007 to June 23, 2010. On June 23, 2010, after President Obama nominated General Petraeus to be the new top U.S. and NATO commander in Afghanistan (taking over the position from retiring General Stanley McCrystal), MoveOn erased these webpages and any reference to them from its website.[2]
Midori
August 28th, 2011
4:04 pm
looks like AmVet busted someone who’s known for pulling facts out of her @ss……….
Zap Rowsdower
August 28th, 2011
4:04 pm
“Yep, the MOTs are all gonna vote for Michele Batsh*t! Or Maybe Herman “NO MUSLIMS!” Cain? Rick “Flat-earth” Perry? Newt Gangrene?”
Or they could vote for a guy who has done absolutely nothing to help them. Yep, that’ll work. Nice name calling there, Vet.
Just Another Anonymous One
August 28th, 2011
4:05 pm
The AP reports that the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION is thinking of shifting both the form and the generosity of military pensions.”
1811,
You should be happy, given your dislike for Colin Powell. Maybe he’ll get a pension cut along with you.
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
4:05 pm
Brosephus:
Did you get tired of partisanship this Administration or before ?
getalife
August 28th, 2011
4:06 pm
scout,
Support your country and you will always be right.
You failed to do this simple task.
Why scout?
Zap Rowsdower
August 28th, 2011
4:06 pm
Too bad AmVet’s poll is two months old.
July 5, 2011
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
4:06 pm
Anonymous:
Whatever they decide. I have invested wisely and will do just fine.
Doggone/GA
August 28th, 2011
4:06 pm
“Nope”
You’ll have to take it up with Jay, not me.
Zap Rowsdower
August 28th, 2011
4:07 pm
“looks like AmVet busted someone who’s known for pulling facts out of her @ss……….”
And there goes another pointless rant.
Just Another Anonymous One
August 28th, 2011
4:07 pm
So? Federal workers got a zero per cent cost of living increase this year.
Next
The Republican Congress wouldn’t have it any other way, unless it was their own pay. Next. Next what.
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
4:07 pm
getalife:
“Support your country and you will always be right.”
Ah, ………………… you sound like a good German.
AmVet
August 28th, 2011
4:08 pm
Zap, based on your abbreviated blogging history here, you seem like a real issues guy. (LOL)
Why do you suppose American Jews always vote overwhelmingly against your beloved GOP?
Are they just lazy and shiftless and living on the Democratic plantation? (Oops wrong demographic! LOL again.)
Just Another Anonymous One
August 28th, 2011
4:08 pm
I have invested wisely and will do just fine.
That’s what they all say.
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
4:08 pm
Next.
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
4:08 pm
…………….. and that’s what I said.
getalife
August 28th, 2011
4:09 pm
“but if I remember correctly, Jay has said several times that he heard that term used by soldiers.”
Yeah, my Dad told me all the nick names for Patton.
I will not repeat them here.
Brosephus
August 28th, 2011
4:09 pm
Scout
It’s been a long time coming. I didn’t care for it when I was still living in Alabama, and I moved away in 2000. I guess you could say it preceeded the previous administration.
Midori
August 28th, 2011
4:09 pm
Zap, based on your abbreviated blogging history here, you seem like a real issues guy. (LOL)
and a real stickler for typos………..
Zap Branigan – The Typo Police who likes to dine on rats
Thulsa Doom
August 28th, 2011
4:09 pm
The Obama perspective
Military= bad
Welfare recipients= good
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
4:10 pm
Bumper Sticker:
“Today’s problems exist because people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.”
getalife
August 28th, 2011
4:11 pm
Ah, ………………… you sound like a good American”
Fixed that for ya.
You know the nazis were far right radicals like you cons.
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
4:11 pm
Brosephus:
Good for you. As long as you are consistent you have my respect.
Zap Rowsdower
August 28th, 2011
4:11 pm
“Zap, based on your abbreviated blogging history here, you seem like a real issues guy.”
You mean like the ones where you come by and throw out the occasional insult? Nice try, cupcake. Go back to playing in traffic.
Joe the Plutocrat
August 28th, 2011
4:12 pm
Thulsa, enough with the “we won/they lost” nonsense re: The renewal of the Patriot Act. From USA Today: Obama’s signature comes after the House voted 315 to 97 Thursday to extend the measure. See, this is where the GOP and neo-con tea party dipsh*ts need to stop playing politics. If this is such a big “issue” then why the 3 to 1 “support from the GOP controlled house? to wit; he cannot honor his campaign promise if the GOP overrides his veto? are you suggesting that they sent him the bill to “bluff” him? read his poli-speak; he agrees with the House, the Patriot Act is a “tool” in the war on terrorism. now, I disagree, but I did not take a side (Obama/Bush), I merely said the “war on terrorism” seems to have an enormous toolbox and endless “credit” at the local hardware store.
Just Another Anonymous One
August 28th, 2011
4:12 pm
“Today’s problems exist because people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.”
You sound like a good little German, 1811.
out of the blue
August 28th, 2011
4:13 pm
I guess you don’t read so well Scout. I said I receive a retirement check, and am entitled to the VA.
I just don’t happen to think I should continue to (like you do everyday) promote my service, or what I did as a GS employee.
So continue on with your self serving rhetoric…..It’s kinda like stopping into the legion for a cold one,
and one, for lack of a seat has to sit by the local blowhard who has been telling the same story over and over again to what transpired 40+ years old!
It’s history…..
1811/0311
August 28th, 2011
4:14 pm
Sorry ……………. socialism and facism are the twin heads of the same monster.
Zap Rowsdower
August 28th, 2011
4:14 pm
“Zap, based on your abbreviated blogging history here, you seem like a real issues guy.”
Oh, you mean like when you go around calling people flat earthers, mystery meat and bigot? Yep, I’m the one with the issues, cupcake. Try again, rat voter.
“Why do you suppose American Jews always vote overwhelmingly against your beloved GOP?”
Same reason they hate Israel.
Kamchak
August 28th, 2011
4:14 pm
Bumper Sticker:
Vote Republican: It’s Easier than Thinking!
Brosephus
August 28th, 2011
4:15 pm
Scout
The local and state issues in Alabama have been highly partisaned for a long time. It gets old listening to the same sh*t year after year. After so long, you can almost quote the slogans and such before they’re even made public. I knew we had a national problem when the Clinton blow job fiasco jumped the shark. We’ve been degrading ever since. Each time we change administrations, it just gets worse.