With latest success, ’strategic defeat’ of al Qaida within reach

From AP:

WASHINGTON — U.S. and Pakistani officials said Saturday that al-Qaida’s second-in-command, Atiyah Abd al-Rahman, has been killed in Pakistan, delivering another big blow to a terrorist group that the U.S. believes to be on the verge of defeat.

Since Navy SEALs stormed Osama bin Laden’s compound and killed him in May, the Obama administration has been unusually frank in its assessment that al-Qaida is on the ropes, its leadership in disarray. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said last month that al-Qaida’s defeat was within reach if the U.S. could mount a string of successful attacks.

“Now is the moment, following what happened with bin Laden, to put maximum pressure on them,” Panetta said, “because I do believe that if we continue this effort we can really cripple al-Qaida as a major threat.”

A Libyan national, al-Rahman never had the worldwide name recognition of bin Laden or bin Laden’s successor, Ayman al-Zawahiri. But al-Rahman was regarded as an instrumental figure in the terrorist organization, trusted by bin Laden to oversee al-Qaida’s daily operations….

Senior al-Qaida figures have been killed before, only to be replaced. But the Obama administration’s tenor reflects a cautious optimism that victory in the decade-long fight against al-Qaida could be at hand.

“It does hold the prospect of a strategic defeat, if you will, a strategic dismantling, of al-Qaida,” incoming CIA Director David Petraeus said in July.

Two weeks from tomorrow, we mark the 10th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks. It has taken longer than most Americans probably expected, and it has come at a higher cost than almost anybody anticipated, but we can now mark the occasion with at least some satisfaction that justice — at least the type of justice within our earthly power — has been served.

– Jay Bookman

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1811/0311

August 28th, 2011
9:36 am

Headline: “TO THE RESCUE: Obama takes charge at hurricane center…”

Headline: “Biden Golfed in Hours Preceding Hurricane…”

“Delaware was pounded by Hurricane Irene on Saturday night, but Vice President Biden got in one last round of golf in his home state before the heavy stuff started coming down, Fox News has learned. Biden played golf at a Wilmington-area course on Saturday morning, according to two sources familiar with his schedule.”

What arrogance. At least he could have gotten a photo-op out pretending to fill sandbags.

AmVet

August 28th, 2011
9:37 am

Bro, one of the innumerable great mysteries of today’s two-faced right wing.

Speak endlessly of personal accountability, but when it comes down to actually having some, and holding frauds, thieves and charlatans accountable to the rule of law, well, that’s a horse of a different color. (Ronnie still lives! Via his demented 11th Commandment.)

I was first notified of his situation via email from Elena Parent, the woman I voted for as my state rep. I had previously voted for Jill Chambers twice – former head of the DeKalb Co. Republican Committee – which flies in the face of my strident anti-Republicanism, I know. But I’m a pragmatist first and ideologue second, and her previous Dem opponents were flat-out, a joke.

Elena is very cool, and I’m thrilled to be represented by her. A voice of moderate chastity in a red orgy of criminal-coddling, pompous, self-aggrandizing would-be oligarchs.

Poor GLL, how many times? He yet again serves the unwitting purpose of providing the blog contrived, fallacious nonsense, to be later corrected by those with actual facts and with no such propaganda agenda.

Brother B, hope you had a great midnight run!

From that same wonderful Big Generator LP you sampled…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO210cMQ9rM

1811/0311

August 28th, 2011
9:37 am

Granny:

“Woe to those who call evil good and good evil”

1811/0311

August 28th, 2011
9:42 am

Mary Elizabeth:

Since you have been quoting Dr. King so much lately, what do you think about his world view in these words from his famous 1966 speech?

” …………… The acceptable year of the Lord is that year when men discover that out of one blood God made all men to dwell upon the face of the earth.

The acceptable year of the Lord is that year when every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess the name of Jesus. And everywhere men will cry out, “Hallelujah, hallelujah! The kingdom of this world has become the kingdom of our Lord and His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever. Hallelujah, hallelujah!”

The acceptable year of the Lord is God’s year.

These are our guidelines, and if we will only follow the guidelines, we will be ready for God’s kingdom …………”

Just Another Anonymous One

August 28th, 2011
9:44 am

Why does 1811 hate our President Obama and our nation so much?

@@

August 28th, 2011
9:44 am

SoCo:

We can HOPE for the best…be prepared for the worst.

(ISH)

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
9:45 am

Jay

I believe that Bush’s attacks were not on Pakistan and other nations not directly involved in our war.

I do find it interesting that you and other libs on here praise Obama for going into Libya to throw out it’s leader in a conflict that has no definite leader, has no way of caring for the refugees, no plans to establish government services, etc. but all of you claim that Bush’s efforts to throw out the man who gassed his own people, used helicopter gun ships on his own people and killed hundreds of thousands was an immoral and illegal war.

Liberal hypocrisy are two words that really need to become one.

Granny Godzilla

August 28th, 2011
9:48 am

“Woe to those who call evil good and good evil”

DING DING DING DING

I bet that tastes like vinegar coming out of your mouth.

Just Another Anonymous One

August 28th, 2011
9:48 am

I see that GLL was proven to be making false statements earlier. What has he done in response. Has he admitted the error of his ways or simply continued to err.

Midori

August 28th, 2011
9:48 am

Kind of like Obama had his picture taken yesterday “in charge” at the Hurricane Center. Laughable.

what was so “laughable” about it, Scout?

Please outline.

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2011
9:48 am

“I do find it interesting that you and other libs on here praise Obama for going into Libya to throw out it’s leader ”

I’m sure it’s VERY interesting to YOU, but since neither of those things actually happened you might consider re-evaluating your grip on reality.

Granny Godzilla

August 28th, 2011
9:50 am

GLL

No silly, we are praising how much more effective President Obama’s way is. You should as well.

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
9:51 am

Just Another Anonymous One

Please point out the false statements.

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
9:52 am

Granny Godzilla

I’m sure only air attacks and leaving the decision making to NATO would have done the job in Iraq. Do you ever think before you write?

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
9:53 am

Doggone/GA

So Obama did send in US military power or he didn’t. You libs get together and decide on what you are going to claim.

Just Another Anonymous One

August 28th, 2011
9:53 am

Please point out the false statements.

Please be more specific.

Mary Elizabeth

August 28th, 2011
9:53 am

Scout,

Jesus said: These two commandments fulfill all the laws and the prophets, (1) that you love God completely and (2) that you love your neighbor as yourself.

Any who use the words of Jesus or the words of MLK to divide, rather than to unify, do not understand the spirit of Jesus or the spirit of MLK.

1811/0311

August 28th, 2011
9:53 am

Midori:

Because he wasn’t “in charge” of anything. As a matter of fact, when a president does something like that (any president) they have to bring their whole battlestar gallactica (staff, Secret Service, White House Communications Agency, etc.) and they make matters worse by just getting in the way of people trying to do their jobs. It’s even worse right after a disaster when police resources, etc. are thinly spread.

Just Another Anonymous One

August 28th, 2011
9:54 am

I take it GLL has failed to read Jay’s responses to his earlier false claims.

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
9:55 am

AmVet

I would love to discuss any issue with you, but to be honest, I have a hard time watching some of the low rent bands you always end up posting after your normal slew of adolecsent insults.

Just Another Anonymous One

August 28th, 2011
9:56 am

1811 must have laughed his a$$ off while Bush was in office, given what he finds “laughable” with our President Obama.

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2011
9:56 am

“So Obama did send in US military power or he didn’t”

He didn’t

1811/0311

August 28th, 2011
9:56 am

Mary Elizabeth:

Nice pary.

Luke 12:

Not Peace but Division

49“I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! 50But I have a baptism to undergo, and how distressed I am until it is completed! 51Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. 52From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. 53They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.”

Midori

August 28th, 2011
9:56 am

well Scout – he could have been in Arizona enjoying being in charge of slicing a birthday cake.

a little perspective does a lot of good.

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
9:56 am

Just Another Anonymous One

Man up. Talk to me instead of gossiping like an old hen.

I have already responded to Jay. Can you operate the mouse?

1811/0311

August 28th, 2011
9:57 am

Just Another Anonymous One :

I fought for this country and put my life on the line for 37 years.

I hate Obama’s policies.

Next question.

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
9:58 am

Doggone

Then why are liberals including Jay giviong him credit for the ousting of the leader?

1811/0311

August 28th, 2011
9:58 am

Granny:

Nice parry to you too …………… :o

FEMA,Hurricane Watcher Division

August 28th, 2011
9:58 am

Attention……………………….Hurricane is over.
.
All non-essential Federal Hurricane Watchers may go back to sleep now.
The two that are left………Stand-by to give proper pass down to Federal Tropical Storm Watchers.
.
That is all……………………Carry on.

1811/0311

August 28th, 2011
9:59 am

Midori:

You asked me …………. I answered.

Thomas

August 28th, 2011
10:00 am

Mexico deploys 1,500 troops after ‘terrorist’ casino attack

Here is a plan- let’s keep focused on the mideast and ignore all things bad about our neighbor to the south. They are running a real good show down there- keep it up.

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2011
10:00 am

“Then why are liberals including Jay giviong him credit for the ousting of the leader?”

Quotes please. Certainly not ALL “liberals” are doing that. I don’t.

Just Another Anonymous One

August 28th, 2011
10:01 am

I fought for this country and put my life on the line for 37 years.

I hate Obama’s policies.

I think you were paid to do a job, like so many others that do not get on here and demonstrate with their words how much they hate our President Obama.

Just Another Anonymous One

August 28th, 2011
10:02 am

GLL,

Man up and admit your false statements as highlighted by Jay.

Brosephus

August 28th, 2011
10:03 am

Oh gee. I see the hasty generalization has begun. Guess I’m gonna bow out for a while.

md

August 28th, 2011
10:05 am

Awful hard to eradicate an ideology………….

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
10:06 am

josef

Any time you want to talk about the Ghost Dance and the prophecies of the Shaman Red Cloud, please let me know. The seventh Generation prophecies are my favorites and of course are currently coming true. I’ve been to Pine Ridge several times, worked and donated to programs helping the Oglala and of course visited the Shaman’s gravesite on top of that wind swept hill And of course Wounded Knee creek is just about as familiar as my backyard.

How about you?

getalife

August 28th, 2011
10:06 am

poor scout.

So partisan he can’t celebrate our country’s victories.

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
10:07 am

Just Another Anonymous One

Ah, so you are talking to me directly. Grow a set?

I made no false statements and no tantrum of yours will change that.

AmVet

August 28th, 2011
10:07 am

Way to acknowledge your prevarication about that stupid, seedy stunt aboard the USS Lincoln, lil lib…

And even when you have had irrefutable proof shoved right into your closed eyes that DISPROVES your intentional misinformation, you still play…… well, you know the word.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psM1×5ABs

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
10:08 am

Doggone/GA

So you are saying that Obama didn’t send in air attacks, Carier support, special forces, etc.

Got it.

Thomas

August 28th, 2011
10:09 am

and demonstrate with their words how much they hate our President Obama

no hate my man. Just like W- simply not a leader and not qualified. The country is finishing up 11 years with no leadership.

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
10:10 am

AmVet

As I said, stupid adolesent attacks and low rent bands.

Thanks. You always prove me right.

getalife

August 28th, 2011
10:10 am

poor thomas.

So partisan he can’t celebrate this victory.

1811/0311

August 28th, 2011
10:11 am

getalife:

poor scout

So experienced in the real world (been there done that) that he knows “fluff” when he sees it.

Just Another Anonymous One :

And you sir/ma’am are entitled to your opinion.

O.K. ………….. off for awhile. Everyone be nice and just debate. Remember what Jay said last week. Knock off the attacks on posters ……………. :o

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2011
10:12 am

“So you are saying that Obama didn’t send in air attacks, Carier support, special forces, etc”

Nope. I’m saying he didn’t order our troops INTO Libya, and he didn’t oust Khaddafi

getalife

August 28th, 2011
10:13 am

Poor gll.

So partisan he lost his mind.

md

August 28th, 2011
10:13 am

My take on “mission accomplished”…….we defeated Sadam and his military…..and his party.

Trying to equate that with also defeating every faction of a civil war is a bit hard to do.

I guess it goes back to one’s definition of the “mission”………….

FEMA,Hurricane Watcher Division

August 28th, 2011
10:13 am

Addendum———————————
.
For all non-essential Hurricane Watcher personnel…….and the other two.
Get with you respective Federal supervisors when filling out the Form22Grafz for overtime compensation and/or per diem/foodstamp claims.
.
Remember the 24-8 rule.(There are only 16 available hours of OT in one work cycle).
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That is all.
Have a fine Federalie Day.
.
Carry on.

getalife

August 28th, 2011
10:14 am

poor scout.

So wrong he cut and ran.

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
10:17 am

Doggone/GA

Of course, that wasn’t my question.

I’m pretty sure that aircraft carriers, special forces and air attacks are considered military power.

getalife

August 28th, 2011
10:17 am

The key to winning wars with minimum losses is not to nation build.

Our President is ending nation building.

Cleaning up w’s mess will take two terms.

AmVet

August 28th, 2011
10:17 am

“I made no false statements.”

Riiight.

You: The banner was created by the crew on board the aircraft carrier and was not brought on by the President’s entourage. (And as an aside, as always, I just love your plethora of links and credible evidence. Oh wait.)

The FACTS as provided by JB: Not long afterwards, the White House had to amend its account. The soldiers hadn’t put up the sign; the White House had done the hoisting. It had also produced the banner — contrary to what senior White House officials had said for months. In the end, the White House conceded on those details, but declared them mere quibbles.

You really do need help with your daily addiction to bald-face lies and beyond inane denials thereof. Maybe there is a Richard Nixon School for such, somewhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMzNf5MehK4

Mary Elizabeth

August 28th, 2011
10:23 am

Scout,

Jesus also said in St. Luke 12, verses 10-15, which was part of that same sermon to the crowd:

“And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost (the Holy Spirit) it shall not be forgiven. And when they bring you unto the synagogues, and unto magistrates, and powers, take ye no thought how or what thing ye shall answer, or what ye shall say: For the Holy Ghost (the Holy Spirit) shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.

And one of the company said unto him, Master speak to my brother, that he divide his inheritance with me. And he (Jesus) said unto him, Man who made me a judge or a divider over you? And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man’s life consisteth not in the abundance of things which he possesseth.”

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
10:24 am

AmVet

LOL!! So if Jay says it, it must be true, because as we all know, he has no horse in the race. LOL!!

Tom Dascille said that Bush produced it. Anoher perfectly fair person with no horse in the race.

Midori

August 28th, 2011
10:25 am

AmVet – a noble endeavor, but you just can’t argue with stupid.

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
10:26 am

AmVet

Rundgren and then Three dog night. Better than normal, but I’m not a big fan of bubblegum pop. Three Dog Night did do a song written by a friend of mine.

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2011
10:27 am

“I’m pretty sure that aircraft carriers, special forces and air attacks are considered military power”

they are, and none of them went INTO Libya with the intention of ousting Khaddafi. so your 2 statements are still untrue.

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
10:28 am

Midori

Any time you want to try another debate with me, please go. But at this point, you just look bitter and sad about all your humiliating attempts from the past.

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
10:28 am

Doggone/GA

So what was their goal?

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2011
10:29 am

“Tom Dascille said that Bush produced it”

BEFORE or after the Bush White House walked back their statement, as proven by Jay’s quotes?

getalife

August 28th, 2011
10:30 am

Poor gll.

So partisan and so full of rw spin nobody will debate him.

He is full of it.

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
10:30 am

Doggone/GA

The only “quotes” that Jay posted were his own.

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2011
10:31 am

“So what was their goal?”

You already know what it was. To assist the rebels and to help make their fight for freedom more equal. And that is what we did.

Midori

August 28th, 2011
10:32 am

GLL – I don’t believe I was addressing you.

trying to relay any information to you is just a complete waste of time.

I was talking to AmVet. He has my sympathy as he was trying to relay information to you, but your dogged stubborness and overly thick cranium just won’t let the sunshine in.

Do you ever get tired of making an @ss of yourself?

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
10:32 am

Poor getaclue. It’s either massive hysteria or lying. Today, it the lying.

Zap Rowsdower

August 28th, 2011
10:32 am

Good Little Liberal

Why do you argue with people who vote for rats? Anyhoo, I see folks spent all night arguing with each other over race again.

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2011
10:33 am

“The only “quotes” that Jay posted were his own”

I see that reading comprehension is not your strong point.

Midori

August 28th, 2011
10:33 am

heading to the park – have a great afternoon all.

Zap Rowsdower

August 28th, 2011
10:33 am

Jay, I noticed that you continue to bring up W yet accuse others of having Obama hate. Pretty darn funny…and sad.

Zap Rowsdower

August 28th, 2011
10:34 am

“Do you ever get tired of making an @ss of yourself?”

Like I said, these people live for insults. Guess they have low self-esteem.

Zap Rowsdower

August 28th, 2011
10:35 am

“So if Jay says it, it must be true”

I bet Jay believes Obama will win the White House in 2012.

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
10:35 am

Midori

I know. You capabilities only extend to gossiping with other posters. When AmVet produces something that includes retractions by the Bush White House and not written by a liberal politician or pundit, I will admit I was wrong.

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2011
10:35 am

GLL – I suggest you go back to Jay’s post at 9:05 am and keep reading it over and over until you begin to see the quotes that Jay posted from Time Magazine.

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
10:37 am

Doggone

You spend the time for yet more insults, but can’t seem to provide any quotes by Jay that prove anything.

If you ever change, you would begin to have a little credibility and God help us when that happens.

kayaker 71

August 28th, 2011
10:38 am

Mission Accomplished signs….. large plastic columns placed behind the Savior at the Berlin speech… There’s not a one of these guys that’s not trying their best to nurse their egos. If you think that this is limited to one political party, you have a deluded sense reality.

getalife

August 28th, 2011
10:39 am

gll,

Did w do anything wrong?

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
10:41 am

Daggone

I apologize. Time Magazine, yet another liberal rag says that people on the Bush team said they created it. But of course at this time, I would admit causing the holocaust to stop your incessant nagging.

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
10:43 am

getaclue

If you were a rational person, we could talk, but you seem rather calm this morning and I just hate to see you go crazy like you usually do.

getalife

August 28th, 2011
10:43 am

Way to admit you are wrong gll.

You can add this fact to your every post.

No credibility con.

bman

August 28th, 2011
10:50 am

Obama and success ….really?

Zap Rowsdower

August 28th, 2011
10:53 am

“No credibility con.”

Says the rat.

Zap Rowsdower

August 28th, 2011
10:53 am

Obama has been successful at failing. That is the one thing he’s great at.

2012: The end of an error.

getalife

August 28th, 2011
10:55 am

Looks like we can add zap to the list of cons that are so partisan she can’t celebrate America’s victories.

Just Another Anonymous One

August 28th, 2011
10:59 am

I made no false statements and no tantrum of yours will change that.

You made false statements, GLL, and Jay highlighted several of them for all to see, except you apparently.

1811,

Yes, I am entitled to my opinion and I agree that you are entitled to your opinions as well. I also think that you fall back on that “service to country” crutch much too freely and use it as some sort of proof of entitlement. Your paid service makes you no more or less a man than any other man and it certainly does not give your words precedence over anothers. We are all equals no matter whose eyes we are viewed through.

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
11:00 am

grtaclue

How do you feel about Bush’s military capturing Saddam, allowing his own people to give him a fair trial resulting in his execution?

@@

August 28th, 2011
11:00 am

And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man’s life consisteth not in the abundance of things which he possesseth.”

I read THAT!!!! Did jay’s left-wingers?

I’m not lookin’ to go after anything that belongs to someone else (earned income).

Heck! Recently, on a trip to Florida, I found 3 one-hundred dollar bills outside an eating establishment. Went in, gave ‘em my cellphone number and told ‘em to have the rightful owner give me a call should they return looking for their lost money. Haven’t received a call yet. It’s been two months. The money is still tucked away at my desk.

Would I like to spend it? You betcha…but it isn’t mine to spend. My conscience won’t allow me to spend it. I’ll probably end up donating it to some charitable organization.

kayaker 71

August 28th, 2011
11:00 am

Celebrating America’s victories is great. Attributing them to this loser in the WH is more than stupid. It has nothing to do with partisanship. More with a certain sense of reality of which blind loyalists create fantasy worlds.

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
11:02 am

Just Another Anonymous One

Yet more tantrums. If I went hysterical everytime a liberal on here was proven wrong, it would be all I do.

getalife

August 28th, 2011
11:02 am

Oh please @@.

Yeah right.

Not buying it.

getalife

August 28th, 2011
11:04 am

gll,

Like the majority of the American people, we know it was a mistake.

Just Another Anonymous One

August 28th, 2011
11:04 am

Yet more tantrums. If I went hysterical everytime a liberal on here was proven wrong, it would be all I do.

If you feel a need to display more tantrums, then by all means do so. Still, Jay highlighted several of your false statements and they are still there for all to read and acknowledge, except you apparently.

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2011
11:05 am

“But of course at this time, I would admit causing the holocaust to stop your incessant nagging”

Sure, a guilty conscious can cause that level of discomfort. Next time, don’t lie and your conscious won’t bother you.

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
11:05 am

gataclue

Just as I thought. You are UNAMERICAN!!! UNPATRIOTIC!!! Why do you hate America?

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
11:05 am

Poor getaclue. Why does he hate America?

Doggone/GA

August 28th, 2011
11:06 am

Ok, today’s obviously NOT my best spelling day! conscience, not concious!

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
11:07 am

Just Another Anonymous One

Jay highlighted statements that he disagreed with.

If you are a guy and you nag like this . . . well enough said.

AmVet

August 28th, 2011
11:07 am

Lil lib, Midori is absolutely spot-on. You are hopelessly immune to any reality that does fit in with your opinions and is based on intentional ignorance of the facts. This information is solely for the other readers.

The banner was created by the crew on board the aircraft carrier and was not brought on by the President’s entourage.

Scott Sforza, the White House’s in-house producer flew out to the USS Lincoln five days before the speech. He determined that the ship had no such facilities to produce the banner, and in a news conference, a White House spokeswoman said the White House had a private vendor produce the sign.

Your act here reminds me of a circus employee who runs around behind the elephants and cleans up their ____ with a shovel and pail.

No wonder it stinks…

Good Little Liberal

August 28th, 2011
11:07 am

Doggone/GA

You voted for Obama and you think that I should have a guilty conscience?

getalife

August 28th, 2011
11:08 am

The buck stops with the President on blame and victories kay.

Sad to read you cons are so partisan you can’t celebrate this great victory.