Moammar Gadhafi and his unrequited love
Libyan rebels pawing through the Tripoli compound of Moammar Gadhafi have stumbled on some odd things, as might be expected. One guy made off with Gadhafi’s famous hat and scepter.
They also seemed to enjoy rubbing the bottom of their shoes on Gadhafi’s face.
AP photo/Sergey Ponomarev
But the most disconcerting discovery may be the extensive photo album found in Gadhafi’s quarters featuring picture after picture of former Secretary of State Condi Rice.
AP photo/Sergey Ponomarev
The apparent fixation with our former secretary of state isn’t breaking news. As The Guardian noted in reporting about Rice’s 2008 visit to Libya:
“In an interview with al-Jazeera television last year, Gadafy spoke of Rice in unusual terms, calling her “Leezza”. “I support my darling black African woman,” he said. “I admire and am very proud of the way she leans back and gives orders to the Arab leaders … Leezza, Leezza, Leezza. … I love her very much. I admire her and I’m proud of her because she’s a black woman of African origin.”
After that meeting, Gadhafi gave Rice a diamond ring in a wooden box, a lute and a locket containing Gadhafi’s picture, later valued by the U.S. government at a total of $212,225. (Rice kept none of the gifts).
So you couldn’t blame Rice if she’s feeling a little creeped out by the discovery of the photo album.
– Jay Bookman
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md
August 25th, 2011
12:48 pm
Col Crazy is………. well………..crazy……….
Makes one wonder how a guy like that can dictate for so long while the world just watched………
Logical Dude
August 25th, 2011
12:48 pm
DUUUUUDE is just creepy!
stands for decibels
August 25th, 2011
12:48 pm
the most disconcerting discovery may be the extensive photo album found in Gadhafi’s quarters featuring picture after picture of former Secretary of State Condi Rice.
ew ew ewwwww.
Hardly Dr. Rice’s biggest fan but all of a sudden I’m feeling very protective right now.
stands for decibels
August 25th, 2011
12:49 pm
protective of her, I meant.
Doggone/GA
August 25th, 2011
12:50 pm
I’m not a big fan of Rice’s, but damn! That creeps ME out. I think if I was her I’d feel it neccessary to take at least a shower or three!
Thulsa Doom
August 25th, 2011
12:51 pm
Funniest thing about the rebel crowds in Tripoli was hearing them singing in Arabic “frizzy head, frizzy head” in mocking Khadafy. Too funny.
FrankLeeDarling
August 25th, 2011
12:51 pm
A frackin’ lute?
Is it 2012 yet?
August 25th, 2011
12:51 pm
I can’t wait to hear the left’s conspiracy theory about this.
Thulsa Doom
August 25th, 2011
12:53 pm
Condi’s gonna be real creeped out when she hears about this. That is one accomplished and admirable lady that doesn’t seem to flinch on anything. Except maybe this.
Bosch
August 25th, 2011
12:53 pm
“Hardly Dr. Rice’s biggest fan but all of a sudden I’m feeling very protective right now.”
Yeah stands, it’s like someone hating on your sister and your like, HEY!!! only I can do that buddy!!!
ty webb
August 25th, 2011
12:53 pm
Too bad the guy who got the hat and sceptor probably has no idea what ebay is.
godless heathen
August 25th, 2011
12:54 pm
Well for all his faults, he had excellent taste in women.
ByteMe
August 25th, 2011
12:54 pm
So you couldn’t blame Rice if she’s feeling a little creeped out by the discovery of the photo album.
I’m not her and I’m creeped out by it.
jt
August 25th, 2011
12:54 pm
From the AP-2009- Now even Gaddafi know about Obama’s reverse Midas touch———–
“Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi, who former president Ronald Reagan once denounced as a “mad dog,” supped on pasta just two seats away from President Obama at the Group of Eight summit today and even secured a handshake with the U.S. president.”
.
Student loan payments or something…..I guess…………………..
Actually, I meant to say George W. Obama’s reverse Midas touch.
AmVet
August 25th, 2011
12:54 pm
I can’t wait to hear some right wing conspiracy freak wonder about how the left wing will react to this deranged dictator’s imaginings of himself as some sort of Don Juan.
Oh. Never mind…
ByteMe
August 25th, 2011
12:55 pm
And the guy wearing the hat… anyone else reminded of “Hogan’s Heroes”?
Joe Mama
August 25th, 2011
12:55 pm
Is It 2012 — “I can’t wait to hear the left’s conspiracy theory about this.”
Can’t Gadhafi just be a moon-howling nutcase? Why does this have to be a partisan thing?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 25th, 2011
12:55 pm
I bet he sent Condi a photo of him in his speedo….
jm
August 25th, 2011
12:56 pm
The quelude dude is now off galavanting in the desert probably. What a nutball.
stands for decibels
August 25th, 2011
12:57 pm
Anyway, I can’t imagine where Gadhafi got the crazy idea we’d have his back, rain or shine.
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/08/24/302759/mccain-lieberman-graham-qaddafi/
For all the braying by the Senate’s top three hawks about how the U.S. wasn’t doing enough to oust Libyan dictator Col. Muammar Qaddafi from power, one might be surprised to learn that exactly two years ago, Sens. John McCain (R-AZ), Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) were in Tripoli meeting with the erratic leader and giving him assurances that relations between the nations were on the mend.
According to a leaked August 2009 U.S. diplomatic cable released by WikiLeaks recounting the Senators’ junket, the neoconservative Connecticut Senator captured the dynamic of aligning with a brutal dictator:
Lieberman called Libya an important ally in the war on terrorism, noting that common enemies sometimes make better friends.
Thulsa Doom
August 25th, 2011
12:57 pm
ty webb,
I’m hoping that guy finds out quickly about Ebay. If I could afford it I would pay good money for that scepter and hat and I would think there would be some pretty monied people would be interested in buying it. Imagine having that around as a conversation piece.
Matthew
August 25th, 2011
12:57 pm
Gee Jay – Nothing important to report on today, I guess. Slow news day for bedwetting liberal editorial writers, I suppose.
Here’s some good stuff for ya!
President Obama calls his own actions “unpatriotic”
“The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents – #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.“
Oh when did he say this you ask? July 3, 2008 as Candidate for President.
The problem with campaign speeches is that they can come back and bite you in the butt.
jm
August 25th, 2011
12:58 pm
md 12:48 – Libya has 5mm people. Not that many in the grand scheme of things. Kind of like being the Bill Campbell of Libya, only with more power and a larger jurisdiction.
Doggone/GA
August 25th, 2011
12:59 pm
“Why does this have to be a partisan thing?”
Now, see…you have to “get” with it. Remember it’s YOU is being partisan, because you NOTICED someone else making a partisan remark.
Thulsa Doom
August 25th, 2011
12:59 pm
“Lieberman called Libya an important ally in the war on terrorism, noting that common enemies sometimes make better friends.”
Politics makes for strange bedfellows. Saddam and Bin Laden used to be U.S. allies- when they served our purposes of course.
md
August 25th, 2011
1:01 pm
“Why does this have to be a partisan thing?”
It’s the “new” America??
Where only a national crisis will bring us together………………….depending on the crisis.
Uncle Jed
August 25th, 2011
1:03 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 25th, 2011
12:55 pm
I bet he sent Condi a photo of him in his speedo
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
You must be thinking of his brother-in law, Abdullah Bin Anthony Maqmud Weiner
ByteMe
August 25th, 2011
1:03 pm
Where only a national crisis will bring us together………………….depending on the crisis.
That’s “liberal” thought. Modern conservative thought is that there’s no reason to come together, because the other side is a bunch of traitorous illegal-immigrant-lovin’ bed-wettin’ gay-lovin’ (pick your own noun here).
Andrew
August 25th, 2011
1:06 pm
Hey the right wing kook started it. Moving on….
Fly-On-The-Wall
August 25th, 2011
1:06 pm
Geez, 2012 has no idea what the topic is. How in the world could this topic be turned into that question?
To me it is really creepy what the Colonel did. But we are talking about a crazy man.
jt
August 25th, 2011
1:07 pm
George W. Obama=Reverse Midas Touch=Nationalized Poverty/Misery=TSA=Rotten smell
.
Dr. Ron Paul=Gold=Personal Liberty=Prosperity=Decency=Rose/PotRoast type smell
stands for decibels
August 25th, 2011
1:08 pm
“Why does this have to be a partisan thing?”
It’s the “new” America?
Not new. But it’s funny you should mention that, because it brought to mind a bit of web surfing done over the weekend to help explain the Gettysburg address to my kid, whereupon I came to see this, from the wiki page on the topic:
[P]ublic reaction to the speech was divided along partisan lines. The next day the Democratic-leaning Chicago Times observed, “The cheek of every American must tingle with shame as he reads the silly, flat and dishwatery utterances of the man who has to be pointed out to intelligent foreigners as the President of the United States.” In contrast, the Republican-oriented New York Times was complimentary. The Springfield, Ma. Republican newspaper printed the entire speech, calling it “a perfect gem” that was “deep in feeling, compact in thought and expression, and tasteful and elegant in every word and comma.”
’twas ever thus, folks.
Jay
August 25th, 2011
1:11 pm
Thanks for posting that reminder, Stands.
md
August 25th, 2011
1:11 pm
“Not new.”
Granted………but certainly much different. Let’s call it “amplified”………through technology.
Thulsa Doom
August 25th, 2011
1:12 pm
Can’t Gadhafi just be a moon-howling nutcase? – Joe Mama
Yes. He was, can and will be a moon-howling nutcase for the remainder of his pitifully shortass future life span.
Jm
August 25th, 2011
1:13 pm
I like dick Cheney
He obviously has flaws, but on balance a very good American
ty webb
August 25th, 2011
1:14 pm
something tells me those guys flipping through that photo album really should be wearing gloves….nasty.
Manchurian-Kenyan Candidate
August 25th, 2011
1:17 pm
And somewhere from the Halls of Marth’s Vineyard to the Shores of Tripoli…..Michelle Obama is sulking…..How come SHE didn’t get a diamond ring!!…..to match her $5000 Coach purse
“Hope and Change….. is NOT MY FAULT!”
Granny Godzilla
August 25th, 2011
1:18 pm
I’ll join the consensus…that’s just plain creepy.
Kinda’ like the reports of porn at OBL’s….
ICK ICK ICKY
Thulsa Doom
August 25th, 2011
1:18 pm
ty webb,
Yikes. A truly nauseating thought.
jconservative
August 25th, 2011
1:20 pm
stands for decibels August 25th, 2011 12:57 pm
Nice touch on the copy and paste. You raise an important issue.
Nations seem to never allow themselves to think long term. They always look at the present. They refuse to realize that the present always determines the future.
So guns and ammo & chemical weapons sent to Saddam to shoot at Iran gets shot back at us in the Gulf War.
Rockets sent to Afghanistan to shoot down Russian helicopters get used to shoot down US helicopters 30 years later.
This could be a long list, but I will stop with just these two.
ty webb
August 25th, 2011
1:21 pm
Thulsa,
yeah, maybe “Dateline NBC” will do a special with a blacklight.
Granny Godzilla
August 25th, 2011
1:22 pm
5000 coach purse….1000 coach purse….depending on reports…
(wealth envy?? it’s not like it came from Tiffany or that she’s gonna bulldoze it to build a purse 4 times bigger)
Course folks complained when she went out in public in a 29.95 gap dress too.
Godd Lord Almighty such foolishness.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 25th, 2011
1:22 pm
jconservative — that is easy to solve. We simply put a “must use by” date on all weapons that we sell.
Left wing management
August 25th, 2011
1:22 pm
Is there any limit to the general scumbaggery of the Republican party?
No?
That’s what I thought.
Leaked Cable: McCain Promised Qaddafi To Help Secure Military Equipment From U.S.
For all the braying by the Senate’s top three hawks about how the U.S. wasn’t doing enough to oust Libyan dictator Col. Muammar Qaddafi from power, one might be surprised to learn that exactly two years ago, Sens. John McCain (R-AZ), Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) were in Tripoli meeting with the erratic leader and giving him assurances that relations between the nations were on the mend.
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/08/24/302759/mccain-lieberman-graham-qaddafi/
Call it like it is
August 25th, 2011
1:23 pm
Too funny, but I will have to admit I kept looking for the next paragraph that stated it was Bush’s fault because he sent Rice over there in the first place or some how, some way Perry likes Gadhafi.
Manchurian-Kenyan Candidate
August 25th, 2011
1:23 pm
Thulsa, bet you Moammar is sitting on a nice Venezuelan beach with buddy Hugo being served coctails by Sean Penn right now……..
md
August 25th, 2011
1:24 pm
“Nations seem to never allow themselves to think long term. They always look at the present. They refuse to realize that the present always determines the future.
So guns and ammo & chemical weapons sent to Saddam to shoot at Iran gets shot back at us in the Gulf War.
Rockets sent to Afghanistan to shoot down Russian helicopters get used to shoot down US helicopters 30 years later. ”
And we kicked the Brits butts………and they are now our closest ally………
It probably balances out…………..
Joe Mama
August 25th, 2011
1:25 pm
LWM — “Leaked Cable: McCain Promised Qaddafi To Help Secure Military Equipment From U.S.”
Mavericky!
Manchurian-Kenyan Candidate
August 25th, 2011
1:25 pm
Well Granny….you should know. “Wealth Envy” is Commandment #1 in the Socialist Handbook for Retired Non-Productive Citizens
Carlos
August 25th, 2011
1:26 pm
“I support my darling black African woman,” he said. “I admire and am very proud of the way she leans back and gives orders to the Arab leaders … Leezza, Leezza, Leezza
This guys looking to get spanked by dominatrix Lezza Rice
Tim Geithner's friend
August 25th, 2011
1:26 pm
Gadhafi must have felt that tingling feeling up his leg and thought of her as a sort of goddess.
Doggone/GA
August 25th, 2011
1:26 pm
“Gee Jay – Nothing important to report on today, I guess”
If you want a REPORT, that’s what the NEWS PAGE is for. THIS is an OPINON page. Got it now?
stands for decibels
August 25th, 2011
1:26 pm
certainly much different. Let’s call it “amplified”………through technology.
Well, the means of info distribution have certainly become much faster, of course, but by “amplified,” I take it to mean you think it’s nastier / louder than it used to be?
If so–from what I have read about the typical Democratic opposition newspapers (and much worse, the anonymous pamphleteers) and their take on Lincoln, a man they routinely referred to as an “ape” who was putting young men into a meat grinder so that freed slaves could ravish their wives and sisters…
It was plenty amplified, back then. Those of us who are troubled by a few “Obozos” or “Chimpys” or what-have-you, spat out by some anonymous commenter here in the early 21st century, need to remember that, is all I’m saying.
kayaker 71
August 25th, 2011
1:27 pm
sfd, 1:08
Good post. This is as it should be. As long as we are loyal Americans, we need adverse discourse to keep us honest. But I have always wondered how a good portion of the American electorate could become so misguided.
Bosch
August 25th, 2011
1:28 pm
Ok I am now MORE creeped out by that image Keep left for us (brain bleach please) and that comment about Cheney by Jm.
Joe Mama
August 25th, 2011
1:28 pm
md — “So guns and ammo & chemical weapons sent to Saddam to shoot at Iran gets shot back at us in the Gulf War.”
Did he, in fact, use chemical weapons during Desert Storm? If so, I was not aware of it.
OTOH, if you’re talking about the 2003 invasion, I find it hard to believe that those munitions would still have been serviceable at that time.
Jay
August 25th, 2011
1:28 pm
Carlos, I shudder to imagine his reaction to meeting Michelle Obama.
Not that that’s ever gonna happen now.
Uncle Jed
August 25th, 2011
1:28 pm
Before signing off for the afternoon it needs to be said,
in honor of (psst, don’t wake him up). She is a con.
md
August 25th, 2011
1:29 pm
lwm………the enemy of my enemy is my friend………..
Those games will always be played on a planet with numerous factions…………….
Russia is currently buddying up with China………..I doubt it’s out of love.
I’d bet there are some within the old USSR that have quite long memories……….and you know who they blame.
Bosch
August 25th, 2011
1:32 pm
Kayaker
No offense, but you’d do well to practice that which are preaching.
Browncoat
August 25th, 2011
1:32 pm
Ms. Rice is dreamy……
kayaker 71
August 25th, 2011
1:33 pm
Off to the lake to christen a just finished wooden kayak on it’s maiden voyage. Stay civil.
md
August 25th, 2011
1:34 pm
“but by “amplified,” I take it to mean you think it’s nastier / louder than it used to be? ”
Well, I should have also said “magnified”………..quicker, faster, to more of the population, continuous, etc etc………..the 24/7 news cycle has changed the way we get our news……or what is passed off as news.
Left wing management
August 25th, 2011
1:34 pm
That old weakness of dictators: a weak spot for the Nubian Goddess! Gets ‘em every time.
Guess he had to flee pretty quickly if he didn’t even have time to grab his Leeza stash.
Indeed, Joe Mama, the maverick rides again.
md
August 25th, 2011
1:35 pm
Joe……note the quotation marks……not my quote………..
stands for decibels
August 25th, 2011
1:36 pm
Off to the lake to christen a just finished wooden kayak on it’s maiden voyage.
Bon voyage!
JOE C00L
August 25th, 2011
1:36 pm
“Kinda’ like the reports of porn at OBL’s….”
Well, they did find some Gay porn at his sons house GG
Bosch
August 25th, 2011
1:37 pm
I hope Jay doesn’t get a fatwa or something called on his ass.
Paul
August 25th, 2011
1:38 pm
Maybe SecState Hillary will invite Leezza back to the broadcast room and al Jazeera will broadcast her saying “Muhmee, darling, won’t you please come out? I miss you. Hillary has a little island where we can stay. Nor more noise, just ocean breezes and us on the veranda….”
Game over. Lives saved. Hillary and Condi. There’s the ticket -
getalife
August 25th, 2011
1:40 pm
We won their hearts and minds.
Smells like victory.
Joe Mama
August 25th, 2011
1:41 pm
Paul — “Game over. Lives saved. Hillary and Condi. There’s the ticket”
You were probably joking, but I bet some of the intel guys at State, Defense and CIA are already batting that very idea around.
Left wing management
August 25th, 2011
1:42 pm
And to think, the Kenyan socialist was just on vacation! On the eve of another positive foreign policy development.
What’s a poor ol honest right winger to do? Enough to them into frothy-mouthed convulsions. Absolute apoplexy.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
August 25th, 2011
1:42 pm
Well, you just never know what other people are doing or thinking. It creeps me out to think that somewhere some woman or maybe a gay man has a big collection of Redneck Convert writings and maybe even a picture they slobber all over and dream about my manly muscles and stuff like that. It’s enough to make a man give up a blog. Sometimes it’s not good to be famous and out in public like this.
Anyhow, the last I read about Condi Rice, there was all kind of rumors about her and My President doing things together that would make Clinton look like a priest in the White House with a cigar. It’s just she’s not my type. Aside from the skin color I’d be turned off big-time by those buck teeth with the big gap between them. But I guess it never bothered this Daffy fellow none.
Anyhow, I sure hope they catch this Daffy fellow soon. It’s clear to me he’s in bad need of a brain doctor. They say that ruling over people for decades can cause a guy to feel all alone and start getting a little weird. I guess what they found in his place shouldn’t ought to suprize us none.
Have a good p.m. everybody.
Matthew
August 25th, 2011
1:43 pm
Doggone it. Understood. You and Jay are both bedwetting liberal weasels.
harden
August 25th, 2011
1:45 pm
Just goes to show how very f’d up this guy is if he is turned on by Condi buck-toothed Rice.
Bosch
August 25th, 2011
1:45 pm
I truly am embarrassed now for all the people I know named “Matthew.”
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 25th, 2011
1:45 pm
Weasels are liberal? My bet is Doggone is a honeybadger……
Joe Mama
August 25th, 2011
1:46 pm
Keep Up — “My bet is Doggone is a honeybadger……”
What’s he eating for the next two weeks?
Manchurian-Kenyan Candidate
August 25th, 2011
1:46 pm
Hey BTW, where are the usual howls from the lefties that the NATO Libyan campaign is just another “war for oil” dribble?……especially with reports from the rebels that oil production can be ramped up quickly after Moammar is toppled.
“Hope and Change……is NOT MY FAULT!!”
jewcowboy
August 25th, 2011
1:47 pm
He could have given her another super-tanker…or Christian Loubatin shoes…that might have won her heart. But I’m not sure if that would have wooed her away from her husba…er President.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 25th, 2011
1:47 pm
Joe…. why I bet its a mathewsnake…but honey badger don’t care
Bosch
August 25th, 2011
1:49 pm
COBRA!! The honeybadger…
md
August 25th, 2011
1:50 pm
“where are the usual howls from the lefties that the NATO Libyan campaign is just another “war for oil” dribble?”
What I find telling is how fast the French jumped in…………….evidently makes a difference in what direction the oil goes………………..
Joe Mama
August 25th, 2011
1:51 pm
M-K Candidate — “Hey BTW, where are the usual howls from the lefties that the NATO Libyan campaign is just another “war for oil” dribble?……”
How about those of us who said no such thing and recommended the President abide by the War Powers Act?
Left wing management
August 25th, 2011
1:51 pm
Manchurian psycho: “Hey BTW, where are the usual howls from the lefties that the NATO Libyan campaign is just another “war for oil” dribble?……especially with reports from the rebels that oil production can be ramped up quickly after Moammar is toppled.
”
I dunno, but who’s gonna be our Paul Bremer over there? You happen to know?
Paul
August 25th, 2011
1:51 pm
jewcowboy
AmVet’s all right, but he got caught in the middle of a pileup and his M45 has gone to that great Road Course in the Sky. He’s still understandably a bit down but perking up thinking about a new set of wheels.
I just thought a CTS-V guy oughta know -
stands for decibels
August 25th, 2011
1:52 pm
md @ 1.34, that’s all true.
But I think we had just a fairly brief golden news-dissemination age, of sorts, perhaps from post-McCarthy’s comeuppance until the dawning of the Internet era, or perhaps just until FCC regs were relaxed in the 80s, and media consolidation started decimating independent news staffs and eliminating a lot of local programming.
There was a time, though, that many here remember, when there was a fairly bright line between news, news analysis, and editorial. No TV or radio station would broadcast editorials without at least providing some semblance of a response from an opposing view. No self-respecting major newspaper would fill most of its pages with other wire services; content consisted much more of their own reporters with their own local perspectives.
Sure, the result was somewhat sanitized, and shriller voices weren’t heard quite so much, but I do think it made possible some genuinely progressive (in the non-partisan sense of the term) societal changes, that would be much harder to duplicate today as we’ve gone back to a more fractured existence.
Oh well, Capt. Obvious here is done reporting. Back later, perhaps…
David
August 25th, 2011
1:53 pm
Sounds like the kind of thing only Hollywood could come up with: A high-profile American woman adjusts to her new life after a deposed African dictator shows up on her doorstep, in the hot new comedy series “Condi & Mo.”
Logical Dude
August 25th, 2011
1:53 pm
Honey Badger Don’t Care. . . Honey Badger don’t give a *****.
Just found that one this week! Awesome! (google “Honey Badger Don’t Care” for the video)
Adam
August 25th, 2011
1:54 pm
WAIT! WAIT! Obama isn’t a leader! He LEADS FROM BEHIND! Congratulations to NATO, to the Libyan people, and to the House of Representatives (for some reason), but we wish we could have put soldiers on the ground to end this sooner.
Did I beat anyone to that?
Jay
August 25th, 2011
1:54 pm
Weasels are BAAADD!
Adam
August 25th, 2011
1:56 pm
Oh crap, I was going to post something about Obama’s campaign speech where he said something about running up the debt, and then conveniently forget that has nothing to do with Libya. But someone beat me to that one
Manchurian-Kenyan Candidate
August 25th, 2011
1:58 pm
Left Wing….who’s gonna be our Paul Bremmer???
He will have a French accent……Sarkozy!!
And Joe….follow the War Powers Act…..Did Barry???…..oh that’s right….this wasn’t a “stupid’ war…lol
“Hope and Change…..is NOT MY FAULT!!”
Adam
August 25th, 2011
1:58 pm
Tally for this blog thread so far:
Anti-Obama posts = 4
Anti-Bush posts = 0
Mary Elizabeth
August 25th, 2011
1:58 pm
stands @ 1:08
It is, also, important to remember that it was only The New York Times’ review of Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address that, in the test of time, has been proven to be the true assessment of the lasting quality of Lincoln’s words.
Doggone/GA
August 25th, 2011
1:59 pm
“Doggone it. Understood. You and Jay are both bedwetting liberal weasels”
Calling names means you have no discussion…and CAN get you banned. Just a friendly warning.
Joe Mama
August 25th, 2011
1:59 pm
Logical Dude — “Just found that one this week! Awesome! (google “Honey Badger Don’t Care” for the video)”
Also anything from the Sylvester the Talking Cat series. He’s an ordinary tuxedo housecat with a snarky, nasally voice (edited into the videos). He says the sorts of things you just KNOW your kitty is already thinking.
Adam
August 25th, 2011
1:59 pm
Make that:
Anti-Obama posts = 5
Individual anti-Obama posters = 3
Anti-Bush posts = 0
Individual anti-Bush posters = 0
Just keeping track for later reference
Joe Mama
August 25th, 2011
2:01 pm
M-K Candidate — “And Joe….follow the War Powers Act…..Did Barry???”
As far as I can tell, he did, but just barely.
“…..oh that’s right….this wasn’t a “stupid’ war…lol”
If you’re going to presume a viewpoint on my part, then this is going to be a really short conversation.
If, OTOH, you’d like to man up and *ask* me my views on that topic, then I suggest you get on with it.
Tech '10
August 25th, 2011
2:02 pm
Randal strikes again! hahaha
AmVet
August 25th, 2011
2:08 pm
As for that baaaaad weasel hunter, I have to wonder if he really is 16.
Or is 26 or 36 or 46 and has just perfected the petulant teenage brat routine.
I love my tribe. No sucking up to the Jesus OR Muhammad gangs when it’s time to set individual mythologies aside…
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/bloomberg-911-bans-religion/2011/08/24/id/408556
Night Train
August 25th, 2011
2:08 pm
Does that first picture, with the hat, kind of look like Chris Rock to anyone else?
Brosephus
August 25th, 2011
2:08 pm
I’m with the group on the photo album. That’s just not right. All you hyper partisans are just as crazy as Ghadaffi. Everything does not distill down to a left vs right issue. You only make yourself look stupid trying to make everything partisan.
Doggone/GA
August 25th, 2011
2:08 pm
“Weasels are BAAADD!”
Yep! Bad to the Bone!
Bush's Fault
August 25th, 2011
2:10 pm
This is all Bush’s fault.
When will Obama take responsibility?
Adam
August 25th, 2011
2:11 pm
Wow an anti-Bush AND anti-Obama post. Penalties offset. First down.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 25th, 2011
2:12 pm
WASHINGTON—Calling a GOP victory in the 2012 presidential election antithetical to the party platform, top Republicans revealed a new long-term political strategy Tuesday: reelecting Barack Obama and making his life even more of a living hell than it already is.
“For three years, the Republican Party has coalesced around the single goal of making President Obama’s every waking moment sheer and utter torture,” Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell told reporters. “But we can’t continue to do that if he’s not in office.”
“If we are going to make the president a haggard shell of a human being by the time he leaves the White House, we need four more years of never compromising, four more years of miring every piece of legislation in unnecessary procedural muck, four more years of pretending we want to work with the president and then walking away from the table at the last second,” McConnell added. “Four more years! Four more years! Obama 2012!”
Joe Mama
August 25th, 2011
2:13 pm
Adam — “Wow an anti-Bush AND anti-Obama post. Penalties offset. First down.”
First down? I thought he won the entire Intert00bz with that post.
Paul
August 25th, 2011
2:14 pm
AmVet
He’s also barred first responders from the ceremony.
He really does mean what he says about keeping the focus on the victims and their families.
(ir)Rational
August 25th, 2011
2:15 pm
Stands, I have issues with you bringing up the image of Gadhafi in a speedo. Anyone got any brain bleach?
Night Train – does kinda resemble a dirty Chris Rock.
Oh-well. Who is John Galt?
Paul
August 25th, 2011
2:18 pm
“Who is John Galt?”
Gadhafi’s image of himself when he looks in the mirror wearing a Speedo?
AmVet
August 25th, 2011
2:18 pm
I read that, Paul. He has arranged for a large screen very near the site especially for them.
No clergy, no politicos. To hell with them trying to use this sacred event to further their own narrow views.
I suspect this anniversary is going to be gut wrenching for a lot of us…
md
August 25th, 2011
2:19 pm
And there will be those that think Keeps post is authentic…………….
Joe Mama
August 25th, 2011
2:19 pm
(ir)Rational — “Who is John Galt?”
Isn’t he on that show with that horrible Snooki woman?
Bosch
August 25th, 2011
2:20 pm
“Also anything from the Sylvester the Talking Cat series.”
I LOVE those videos.
F’real?
Bosch
August 25th, 2011
2:22 pm
“Weasels are BAAADD!”
Yeap, I mean look at their King:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Eric_Cantor_headshot.JPG
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 25th, 2011
2:22 pm
Right md.
Joe Mama
August 25th, 2011
2:23 pm
Bosch — “I LOVE those videos.”
You have a collect call from –
COME GET ME!
Paul
August 25th, 2011
2:24 pm
Joe Mama
““Who is John Galt?””
Gaddafi in a speedo, with Snookie sitting in his lap, looking at pictures of Condi.
Next?
Adam
August 25th, 2011
2:24 pm
md: Maybe if they lack reading comprehension…
Thulsa Doom
August 25th, 2011
2:24 pm
“Did he, in fact, use chemical weapons during Desert Storm? If so, I was not aware of it.”- Joe Mama,
Joe Mama,
Yes. Word is Saddam ate something noxious and farted something nasty.
Bosch
August 25th, 2011
2:25 pm
Joe,
Have you seen this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsAxsoq0SYs
And I love the one where Steve finds out that Shelby thinks her name is “bitch.”
Bosch
August 25th, 2011
2:28 pm
Joe,
And when Sylvester tells Shelby:
“GET PARVO!!”
And I love Gibson always saying “help” and “Todd”
And I love the one where Sylvester tries to sell Shelby on Craigs List.
Boortz wuz right
August 25th, 2011
2:28 pm
Interesting story, if old news none the less, BOORTZ is right. Bookman is a left wing, left coast son of a gun, fits in with left wing, left coast journalism sooo AJC. Does anyone hear Cynthia Tucker slithering around?
Back Seater
August 25th, 2011
2:28 pm
Adam
August 25th, 2011
1:59 pm
Make that:
Anti-Obama posts = 5
Individual anti-Obama posters = 3
Anti-Bush posts = 0
Individual anti-Bush posters = 0
Just keeping track for later reference
Adam, in case you haven’t noticed Bush is not the current POTUS, you libs are finally understanding that it is now O’boma’s politics that is driving this bus off the road and over the hill.
Thanks for finally understanding this issue
Please continue your daily tally, you might even learn something…………doubtful. but maybe you will, hopea, hopea
Manchurian-Kenyan Candidate
August 25th, 2011
2:28 pm
Joe….”As far as I can tell, he did, but just barely.”…….really? please enlighten us….
as for presuming….I presume nothing. All I was stating was that we got not a scintilla of the usual “….innocent people are being killed for blood lust of oil”…..nonsense from the lame-stream media and the likes of Jay that we typically get when a Repub is POTUS.
“Hope and Change….is now….NOT MY FAULT!”
Scooter
August 25th, 2011
2:30 pm
That’s understandable. Condi’s abiity to overcome hardships with dignity and grace made her very sexy to me.
I’ll always remember the 9/11 Commission hearings when she simply said we (the Bush Administration) were not on a war footing prior to 9/11. There was none of this, we inherited… Her response displayed dignity, maturity and a profound respect for the job of the executive branch. those are the traits a person acquires from earning their position and not being floated to the top like our current CiC.
Adam
August 25th, 2011
2:30 pm
Back Seater: I’m only doing an analysis to see who’s right: The people who say Bush gets bashed here more than Obama, or the people who say Obama gets bashed here more than Bush.
Joe Mama
August 25th, 2011
2:31 pm
Doom — “Word is Saddam ate something noxious and farted something nasty.”
I was in uniform at the time, and though I did not go to the sandbox, I knew plenty of fellows who did. My unit didn’t get sent, but ~1000 or so assorted guys did; assorted pilots, truck drivers, maintenance guys, medics and a about a battalions’ worth of infantrymen (a few hundred).
As it turned out, the infantry guys had quite a story to tell when they came back; they got chosen to be GEN Schwarzkopf’s ‘palace guard’ around his HQ, and a bunch of them were also sent to Safwan Airfield, where the surrender was signed. If you gotta go someplace like that in the service, it’s good to see some sights and have some stories to tell your grandkids.
Scooter
August 25th, 2011
2:34 pm
Oh yeah… and I sincerely hope Condi gets to be Commissioner of the NFL one day.
md
August 25th, 2011
2:35 pm
“md: Maybe if they lack reading comprehension…”
more like gullibility and lack of research skills……………..
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 25th, 2011
2:35 pm
Finally evidence of Bad Regulations and Nanny State!
I mean the nerve that those dang Goat Herders should have separate sleeping units, a comfortable bed & clean mattress and fire resistant waslls near cooking areas.
Thank the supreme honeybadger in the sky that we have Fox all over this horror!
pj
August 25th, 2011
2:36 pm
It was those black s & m boots she always wore to meetings with heads of state. and who knows for sure if it was unrequited? I wonder if she returned the gifts (since she couldn’t legally accept them). regarding Michelle, she has her own (earned) money, dude.
Adam
August 25th, 2011
2:37 pm
md: lack of ability to click linky,
Joe Mama
August 25th, 2011
2:42 pm
Bosch — I’ll have to check them later; streaming video is blocked here.
M-K Candidate — “…….really? please enlighten us….”
Under the War Powers Resolution, a President can send our military into action overseas for up to 90 days without Congressional approval. The Act is written such that a President gets 60 days plus 30 days to disengage and withdraw, but most observers — Congress included — read that as 90 days.
The Act isn’t specific on what is permitted without Congressional approval after 90 days; my reading of it (which admittedly isn’t authoritative) is that the President can involve our servicemembers in overt military actions for up to 90 days without getting Congress’ okay; things like drone surveillance/attacks and supporting our allies’ actions (with things like supplies, transport and fuel/maintenance/munitions for their aircraft isn’t specifically spoken of in the Act and is kind of gray. So those sorts of things are probably permissible simply because they aren’t specifically prohibited.
Presidents Bush (II) and Clinton tried a novel tactic; they got Congress to approve *funding* for overseas operations and then tried to claim that Congress had implicitly approved the operations. The argument both made was that Congress wouldn’t fund something it didn’t approve of.
In any event, it appears that we didn’t have servicemembers actively working inside Libya’s territorial boundaries after the 90 days were up — which seems to comply with the War Powers Act. You could argue that any members of Force Recon, Delta Force, the SEALS or the AF 15th SOG who were still in-country constituted a violation, but Congress has generally deferred to Presidents using special forces in that way and doesn’t seem to see those sorts of deployments as overt use of military assets.
FWIW, I’m a disabled Army vet, and I opposed *both* our invasion of Iraq and our involvement in Libya.
mm
August 25th, 2011
2:43 pm
Eeewww, pictures of Condi. That is one ugly woman.
Bosch
August 25th, 2011
2:44 pm
Joe Mama,
I’m embarrased to know this, but there are 22 videos now, plus a few “extras” like the hairball one I posted, plus Sylvester has his own blog. It’s a Bosch family fav.
jewcowboy
August 25th, 2011
2:45 pm
Paul,
“AmVet’s all right, but he got caught in the middle of a pileup and his M45 has gone to that great Road Course in the Sky”
Ouch! Glad AmVet’s OK. Maybe this for a new set of wheels:
http://youtu.be/UNSOftxTgcI
Joe Mama
August 25th, 2011
2:47 pm
Bosch — “I’m embarrased to know this, but there are 22 videos now”
I like the one where Sylvester calls the dog an “ass” for licking him clean. I know the voice is overdubbed, but it just seems to go PERFECTLY with his expression after the dog’s done.
John Birch
August 25th, 2011
2:50 pm
Gadhafi is barking up the wrong tree, Condi very clearly prefers girls.
Paul
August 25th, 2011
2:50 pm
pj
Only gifts can be kept are of minimal value as determined by GSA. Most find their way to the National Archives.
BTW
It’s governed by 22 USC CHAPTER 37 – FOREIGN GIFTS AND DECORATIONS
Note this part: ” A gift or decoration not approved for release, because of any special
or unusual circumstances involved, shall be deemed a gift to the United States and shall be deposited by the donee in accordance with the rules and regulations issued pursuant to this chapter.”
Notice that last part? Congress passes a law, then leaves the writing of the rules and regulations to implement it to…. someone outside Congress.
That’s the way the real world of government regulations works, folks.
Adam
August 25th, 2011
2:51 pm
John birch: Gadhafi is barking up the wrong tree, Condi very clearly prefers girls.
Or Alec Baldwin
Thulsa Doom
August 25th, 2011
2:52 pm
Joe Mama,
I didn’t have to serve in either Desert Storm. But my brother did. He was a Patriot battery commander protecting that big air base in Saudi Arabia I think it was whose name escapes me. Anyway, when the first rounds of SCUDS were fired his college buddy in ROTC fired off a patriot that downed the first scud and of course this guy was all over cnn. My brother was pi$$ed because he was on the opposite side of the ring and didn’t get to fire the missile that took down the scud. His buddy shot down 2 of them I think.
I also did business with a certain CEO of a well known company here in town that was an Englishman. He was the British division commander of the main British armored division and from what his other execs were telling me he personally led his tanks across the desert to confront the Iraqi armor. Very impressive man. He was in his 50s but this guy was extremely fit and trim like a dang 19 year old Marine. Smart as a whip too with a good sense of humor. If you’ve dealt with a few CEOs you know what a rare skill set and combination of great attributes they have. This gentleman was no exception.
Paul
August 25th, 2011
2:53 pm
Joe Mama
Spkr Boehner said he thought Pres Obama met the requirements of WPA. Then he said he didn’t. So he was for it until he was against it.
Rep Kucinich introduced legislation to cut off funding for Libyan operations. House Republican leadership tried to block it. In the end, a vote to cut off funds failed miserably.
So by their actions, not their rhetoric, Congress was fine with it.
md
August 25th, 2011
2:54 pm
Adam……gullibility usually doesn’t come with common sense……if one is gullible, going to the link will just confirm their gullibility………..
By the way, the link also disproved global warming…………..
Paul
August 25th, 2011
2:55 pm
jewcowboy
That was on Motor Week a week or two ago. Awesome ride. Sure doesn’t look like my daddy’s wagon – more like an artful crossover.
Adam
August 25th, 2011
2:56 pm
md
jewcowboy
August 25th, 2011
2:59 pm
Paul,
“Sure doesn’t look like my daddy’s wagon ”
Yeah…I have to say, I do have a twang of buyers remorse. I would love to have a wagon…but when I bought mine there weren’t any available in GA yet. The thought of going head to head with a Ferrari 458 while having the dogs and groceries in they back is so sweet.
Thulsa Doom
August 25th, 2011
3:00 pm
AmVet,
Well that sucks about your M-45. One of the nicest cars I’ve ever driven. You feelin ok? I noticed you posted a link from newsmax a con website and so I was wondering what in the hell is AmVet doing readin con websites. Will wonders never cease. Closet con?
Adam
August 25th, 2011
3:00 pm
End of Page 3:
Anti-Obama posts = 6
Individual anti-Obama posters = 3
Anti-Bush posts = 0
Individual anti-Bush posters = 0
Number of pages with anti-Obama posts = 3
Number of pages with anti-Bush posts = 0
Fake posts intended to skew the results = 1
Paul
August 25th, 2011
3:03 pm
jewcowboy
“The thought of going head to head with a Ferrari 458″
In about two seconds it’d be the 458’s head behind the CTS-V’s tail.
And a day later a Ferrari pulling into a Caddy dealership -
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 25th, 2011
3:04 pm
Now we must first think of the gullible before posting? What is Scout going to do for material?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 25th, 2011
3:05 pm
Dang it….. Adam, did you put me in the fake posts?
md
August 25th, 2011
3:07 pm
“Now we must first think of the gullible before posting?”
Not at all………..merely pointing out that there would be some…………….
Back Seater
August 25th, 2011
3:12 pm
Again, thanks Adam for proving my point
About time you lib’s start seeing the truth about our POTUS
Please keep up the tally
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 25th, 2011
3:14 pm
yes md… I am sure that you demand that the Colbert Nation disclose that it is a comedy show
Or for that matter that the RNC and Fox websites do the same 
Oh lordy, think of the gullible…… why I do believe there is one in the back seat now
Joe Mama
August 25th, 2011
3:18 pm
Doom — “that big air base in Saudi Arabia I think it was whose name escapes me.”
KKMC? King Khalid Military City?
“when the first rounds of SCUDS were fired his college buddy in ROTC fired off a patriot that downed the first scud”
Nobody outside the military realized it then, but SCUDs don’t have a guidance system worth a rat’s hindquarters. From what I was told, they’re basically big skyrockets; you light the fuse and point it in the direction of your target, which you probably will not end up hitting. My OIC (who was an Artillery officer; I worked in a Division HQ section) said that we pretty much *had* to shoot them down, though; they scared the Saudis and if one DID hit its target, the US military would look bad. Besides, shooting down clunky old POS SCUDs gave our air defense arty guys some good practice.
“he personally led his tanks across the desert to confront the Iraqi armor. Very impressive man. He was in his 50s but this guy was extremely fit and trim like a dang 19 year old Marine. Smart as a whip too with a good sense of humor.”
I’ve heard that about Brit officers, but I’ve never met one. Being stationed in the Pacific as I was, my experience with overseas troopers was with Koreans and Aussies — and I LIKE Aussies. Those boys know how to get the job done, and they like to drink afterwards.
Joe Mama
August 25th, 2011
3:20 pm
Paul @ 2:53 — thank you for that reality check, sir. ^^^
Thulsa Doom
August 25th, 2011
3:20 pm
Adam,
That’s about as unscientific of a little study there as you can come up with. Of course there will be anti-Obama posts. He is the potus- has been for almost 3 years now and fairly or unfairly whoever is in office is going to get a good bashing for whatever does go wrong under his watch. Why would anyone be bashing Bush if he hasn’t even been here in nearly 3 years? The man is so yesterday’s news that it aint even funny.
md
August 25th, 2011
3:28 pm
“Oh lordy, think of the gullible…… why I do believe there is one in the back seat now”
Mr Drama?
1811/0311
August 25th, 2011
3:29 pm
Headline: “Fears Al Qaeda Infiltrating Libya Through Rebels”
“Key rebel leader is linked to terror group that wants to set up Islamist state in Libya”
Hummmmmm …………………
Thulsa Doom
August 25th, 2011
3:30 pm
Joe Mama,
It wasn’t the Air base you mentioned. I want to say AL Assad air base but I think that’s the base he was stationed at in Iraq. I can’t remember but for some reason I’m thinking the scuds were aimed at Israel but I’m probably just confusing the 2 because I’m pretty sure Saddam fired them at Saudi Arabia also. Anyway, they were easy to shoot down. Basically kinda like you said just like big busses that you set a fuse to and that’s it.
Bro told me that the troops got so complacent over the scuds being shot down with regularity that the biggest single casualty we took was because of a scud that got blown apart and the pieces were so big that it just fell to earth and happened to land on one of our camps and killed I’m guessing something like 17 or 27 soldiers in one fell swoop. Bro told me privately that the soldiers had become so complacent that many of them just didn’t take cover when the sirens went off and a good number of them that got hit in that shot were sitting in a mess hall just eating and not caring when the scud that was blown in 2 landed on them. He wasn’t there but that’s what he had been told happened from some other officers.
Thulsa Doom
August 25th, 2011
3:32 pm
Joe Mama,
It just hit me. He was at Dahran I think it was in the first gulf war.
Thulsa Doom
August 25th, 2011
3:38 pm
and I LIKE Aussies. Those boys know how to get the job done, and they like to drink afterwards. -Joe Mama
Hell they get to drink on board. We did a refueling mission with them during carrier operations out in the middle of the pacific one time and I remember seeing their sailors across the water and they had shorts as part of their uniform. Nice and cool they were in the hot ass Pacific. And they get a ration of 2 beers per sailor when their shift is done. You can’t give them away or sell them to another sailor of course. Use em or lose em but 1-2 suds after a 12-13 hour day at sea would be a nice thing.
Joe Mama
August 25th, 2011
3:40 pm
Doom — “Bro told me privately that the soldiers had become so complacent that many of them just didn’t take cover when the sirens went off and a good number of them that got hit in that shot were sitting in a mess hall just eating and not caring when the scud that was blown in 2 landed on them.”
I don’t doubt it, and I do remember that. Safety directives and regs are there to help make sure you don’t get killed or injured due to an accident or other preventable mishap. Not only were those guys in the chow hall wrong for not taking cover, their leadership was wrong for not making sure that they did. Safety’s a PITA sometimes, but I’d rather put up with the hassle than turn into a statistic.
I think the first few SCUDs were aimed at Israel, then I recall Saudi Arabia getting added into the mix.
Now all that plus the discussion of funny animals reminds me of this:
http://rolcats.com/155
Bosch, you will want to check that out, too. It’s Russian LOLcats, but with snarky (and incorrect) English translations. Seriously, some will make you LOL, so you might want to save them for home browsing.
Joe Mama
August 25th, 2011
3:47 pm
Doom — “And they get a ration of 2 beers per sailor when their shift is done.”
Don’t our Navy swabs get beer rations when underway? I thought y’all got some limited supply that the captain portioned out when and how he saw fit?
There’s no alcohol during Army field exercises, but when soldiers come in from the field, you don’t want to be standing between them and cold beer + grilled meat. When I got to Hawaii, the commanding general of the post had decreed no HMMWVs in the Burger King drive-thru and no dirty, ruck-carrying field solders inside the restaurant. I guess guys had been pretty eager for burgers after coming out of the field.
It’s not surprising, though; an extended period on nothing but MREs and T-Rats would put anyone off their feed. At least you sailors got three hots a day, most of the time.
Message from Matti
August 25th, 2011
3:56 pm
I like the little tiny bottles of tabasco sauce that come in the MREs.
Adam
August 25th, 2011
3:57 pm
Thulsa: Why would anyone be bashing Bush if he hasn’t even been here in nearly 3 years?
You tell me. Someone asserted that Bush gets bashed or blamed here more than Obama gets bashed or blamed here. I wanted to start checking to see if they were right, because my hypothesis is the opposite.
poison pen
August 25th, 2011
3:58 pm
Subject: FW: BREAKING NEWS!!!!!
President Obama has just confirmed that the DC earthquake occurred on a rare and obscure fault-line, apparently known as “Bush’s Fault”.
Obama also announced that the Secret Service and Maxine Waters continue an investigation of the quake’s suspicious ties to the Tea Party.
Conservatives however have proven that it was caused by the founding fathers rolling over in their graves.
Joe Mama
August 25th, 2011
4:03 pm
pp — “Conservatives however have proven that it was caused by the founding fathers rolling over in their graves.”
No, I heard it was caused by Chris Christie jumping into the campaign for President.
Doggone/GA
August 25th, 2011
4:05 pm
“President Obama has just confirmed that the DC earthquake occurred”
Hey Rip Van Winkle, did you JUST wake up?
Jay
August 25th, 2011
4:07 pm
sheets ….
poison pen
August 25th, 2011
4:10 pm
Joe, It would be dicey if he did.
Joel Edge
August 25th, 2011
4:55 pm
I think this is one thing we all actually agree on, creepy.
independent thinker
August 25th, 2011
9:08 pm
And this terrorist psycho was put on the good ole boy list by George W, and given military aid. Maybe he thought that was for being so charming to Condi!
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