Teen pregnancy, taxes and climate change: Evidence matters

It is one of the great under-reported success stories of our time.

Twenty years ago, roughly 62 out of every 1,000 teen-age American girls were giving birth. Here in Georgia, the numbers were much, much worse. At the time, we had the highest teen-age birth rate in the country, at 126 births per 1,000 teen-age girls, twice as high as the national average.

The good news is that by 2009, the most recent year for which statistics are available, the national teen birth rate had fallen to 39.1 births per 1,000 females, a 37 percent decrease and the lowest rate ever recorded in this country. (It’s still among the highest in the Western world.) Here in Georgia, the decline was even more dramatic. By 2009, the rate of teenage births here had fallen to 47.7 per 1,000, still above the national average but a startling reduction of 62 percent.

That’s a lot of individual lives that have been saved and changed. It’s a lot of money saved for the taxpayer as well. Those improvements have been pretty broadly based as well. As the Centers for Disease Control reports, “During that period, the birth rate decreased 50 percent among black teens, 41 percent among white teens, and 33 percent among Hispanic teens.”

However, the problem has remained more persistent in some areas than others. Texas, for example, has the third-highest teen pregnancy rate in the country. At 60.7 pregnancies per 1,000 teen-aged girls, its rate is more than three times higher than that of Vermont, Massachusetts and New Hampshire, which have the lowest teen pregnancy rates in the country.

In Texas, that means three times more girls at risk of dropping out of high school and never attending college. It means a lot more abortions. It means a lot more children who are being raised by children, often without benefit of a nuclear family. It means premature babies, more low weight babies, more infant mortality and more dependence on government social programs.

In its sex-ed programs in public school, Texas relies upon a curriculum of abstinence-only, an approach that has been shown to be ineffective in multiple studies. Gov. Rick Perry was asked about that fact last year in a televised interview with Evan Smith of the Texas Tribune, who read Perry a question submitted by an audience member:

Here’s a transcript of the relevant exchange:

SMITH: Governor, why does Texas continue with abstinence education programs when they don’t seem to be working? In fact, I think we have the third highest teen pregnancy rate in the country.

PERRY: “Abstinence … works.”

(audience laughter)

SMITH: “But we have the third highest teen pregnancy rate among all states in the country. The questioner’s point is, it doesn’t seem to be working — abstinence education.”

PERRY: “It, it, it works. Maybe it’s the way it’s being taught, or the way it’s being applied out there, but the fact of the matter is it is the best form of — uh — to teach our children.”

SMITH: “Can you give a statistic telling me that it works?”

PERRY: “I’m just going to tell you from my own personal life, abstinence works …”

We’ve seen that attitude in a lot of policy areas. Tax cuts increase government revenue, even though repeated experiments have proved otherwise. Global warming has been revealed as a hoax, even though every investigation of the data has upheld its accuracy (the most recent is here).

And as Perry stubbornly insists, abstinence works.

This is faith and ideology that is immune to evidence. It is the assertion that belief should trump outcome. And as the teen-birth statistics demonstrate, the consequences of elevating faith over fact in the public policy sphere can be tragic.

(As an aside, it’s hard to watch that clip and not be struck by the uncanny similarity in body language and speaking cadence between Perry and former President George W. Bush. It’s actually kind of weird. My wife’s family is from Texas and my brother has lived there for 30 years — it’s not as if every male in the state has those mannerisms.)

– Jay Bookman

849 comments Add your comment

MEGO

August 24th, 2011
9:15 am

Just say no!!

MEGO

August 24th, 2011
9:15 am

FIRST!!! I will play the lottery today!!

Adam

August 24th, 2011
9:18 am

Abstinence… works… (laughter)

Adam

August 24th, 2011
9:19 am

It’s funny, but I don’t think I’ve seen the cons’ take on this. I can’t wait to see if they’re actually nutty about this issue, which has a very obvious cause and effect model that has been tested over and over.

Mick

August 24th, 2011
9:20 am

Perry should enjoy his honeymoon because when the vail come off his candidacy, it’s not going to be a very appealing portrait…

Normal

August 24th, 2011
9:21 am

If not abstinence, then masturbation! (new bumper sticker)

carlosgvv

August 24th, 2011
9:22 am

But……but……but……. Gov. Perry has been in power for a long time now. He is a strong force for the Christian way of life. Texas strongly promotes “abstinence works” and we all know that if The Lord has inspired Gov. Perry to say that, then it has to be true. Hmmmmm- It must be the works of the evil Obama administration that are causing all these teen pregnacy cases in Texas.

saywhat?

August 24th, 2011
9:23 am

Maybe if all those Texas teens stopped getting all hot and bothered and instead practice abstinence, they would throw off less heat and stop the global warming, thereby allowing us to lower taxes (no need for “tax and trade”), and improve the economy by all working minimum wage jobs instead fornicating. It all makes perfect conservative libertearepublitardian sense.

stands for decibels

August 24th, 2011
9:24 am

it’s hard to watch that clip

yes, I imagine it is.

godless heathen

August 24th, 2011
9:26 am

“Here in Georgia, the decline was even more dramatic. By 2009, the rate of teenage births here had fallen to 47.7 per 1,000, still above the national average but a startling reduction of 62 percent.”

The other side of the coin. You libs going to give Republican’s credit for the reduction in Georgia or are you just going to go nuts about Texas?

Left wing management

August 24th, 2011
9:27 am

Maybe it’s the way it’s being taught, or the way it’s being applied out there, …

Abstinence. It’s all in the application.

Rob Woodall Has Always Gotten His Healthcare for Free but Paid By You, He wants your grandparents to forgo food to pay out from their fixed income

August 24th, 2011
9:28 am

Geez….. that man is just not that bright.

Bosch

August 24th, 2011
9:29 am

Yes, because we all know that you can just NOT have sex, just like we all know you just STOP breathing…

:roll:

USinUK

August 24th, 2011
9:30 am

the way abstinence is being “applied” doesn’t work???

Paul

August 24th, 2011
9:30 am

As was said the other day, I like the characteristic of Pres Obama where he looks at new information or new circumstances and modifies his position or changes his mind. I see that as a mature, honest approach to life.

This is in contrast to people. like Gov Perry, who take a position and will not change it unless the political heat becomes too intense and becomes a threat to his career (for example, the trans-Texas corridor). In areas where he does make the correct call (areas? okay… area, singular, only example I can think of) requiring girls to get vaccines to prevent, not just measles, mumps, rubella, polio, but also cervical cancer. But in that case, he reversed himself when the conservative religious opposition had a fit.

Take those characteristics and extrapolate four years into the future. Is that what you want?

Jay

August 24th, 2011
9:30 am

I wasn’t going to bring this up, godless, but since you insist:

If you want to start handing out credit for Georgia’s progress, you have to start with — gasp! — Jane Fonda.

http://gcapp.org/about-us-history-g-capp

Adam

August 24th, 2011
9:31 am

Jay: This is faith and ideology that is immune to evidence. It is the assertion that belief should trump outcome.

Huntsman calls this “anti-science.”

USinUK

August 24th, 2011
9:31 am

RB from Gwinnett

August 24th, 2011
9:31 am

“That’s a lot of individual lives that have been saved and changed. ”

How has the abortion rate changed the numbers, Jay? Did you factor that in? I’m not so sure the easy access to abortions should be considerd “lives that have been saved”.

Also, the graduation rate in APS is 45%. Are you saying it would be worse than that without all this great news? That’s 45%, Jay. Why isn’t anybody standing on the rooftops screaming about that? Why isn’t that the single biggest issue in the APS community when we know the 55% will become “less fortuate”?

You keep telling half stories, Jay, as the deck chairs keep getting rearranged.

Paul

August 24th, 2011
9:31 am

and yes, that post was really from me.

Bosch

August 24th, 2011
9:32 am

So, Jay, WHO was namejacking Paul?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 24th, 2011
9:32 am

Ahhhh… education failures in GA are the fault of the Democratic-controlled school boards, education success, contrary to general position of many Republican, is the success of the Republicans. Credit must be given to a party as well as blame to another. We shall not discuss the merits of the education program itself!

Good little liberal

August 24th, 2011
9:32 am

“Abstinence … works.”

No doubt about it, unless it is an immaculate conception. I believe the term should be “The teaching of abstinence doesn’t work the way it should.”

All the stereotypes for teaching kids are pretty much true. I always loved the ” Give teenagers jobs while they still know everything.”

Modern kids still smoke cigarettes for God’s sake. “Sure, I’ll smell like a wet ashtray, have breath that will knock a buzzard off a s**t wagon at fifty paces and change the color of all my internal organs from bright pink to a dirty maroon and suffer life long health problems because hollywood tells me that it looks cool.”

They GET TATTOOS, The ultimate slavery to fashion. A life long commitment to bad taste. Beautiful women that have arms that look like WWII sailors. Guys that look like they just got out of the state correctional facility and will look that way forever. Kids (and adults) that trust a tattoo artist to know what that oriental symbol actually means, when we all know what it means: “I have the IQ of a frog and the abhorrence to following the herd of a Lemming.”

If I only had thought to have bell bottom jeans permanently sewn into the skin of my legs. I could have tie-dyed my chest! To be honest, I could use the hair that gave me that Beatle haircut, but that’s another issue.

And you say that telling them to not have sex isn’t working? Say it ain’t so.

Call it like it is

August 24th, 2011
9:32 am

Well after reading the title of your blog today, I was wondering how this was going to be spun to reflect bad on Perry. Very entertaining Jay. You know heres a thought if you actually were not so one sided with this blog and added real insight to both sides you might average more then 400 hits a day in an area that has over a million people. Of course the average may not even be 400 if you take away your cult that post 20 to 30 times on each blog, not really adding anything, just filling in space. Just a thought.

Stonethrower

August 24th, 2011
9:33 am

He is telling the truth, it does work for those who abstain.

Paul

August 24th, 2011
9:34 am

Adam

“Huntsman calls this “anti-science.””

No wonder his poll numbers are so low -

Bosch

August 24th, 2011
9:34 am

And yes, Perry looks and sounds EXACTLY like Bush. Eeeekkk!!

USinUK

August 24th, 2011
9:34 am

Bosch – “Yes, because we all know that you can just NOT have sex, just like we all know you just STOP breathing…”

well, there are those people who choose celibacy … and then, there are those who celibacy chooses them.

Rob Woodall Has Always Gotten His Healthcare for Free but Paid By You, He wants your grandparents to forgo food to pay out from their fixed income

August 24th, 2011
9:35 am

No need to spin anything to reflect bad on Perry. Just listen to him speak.

Adam

August 24th, 2011
9:35 am

godless heathen: You libs going to give Republican’s credit for the reduction in Georgia or are you just going to go nuts about Texas?

If Georgia is not sticking with abstinence only education, and Republican lawmakers made that call, then yes, they deserve credit for that. That is a good decision.

See how easy that was? Obama used a “lead from behind” strategy in Libya, and we now know what the results of that are compared to other recent wars. Your turn ;)

USinUK

August 24th, 2011
9:35 am

“I’m not so sure the easy access to abortions should be considerd “lives that have been saved”.”

yeah. let’s just forget about the thousands of WOMEN who died from botched or self-inflicted abortions

oy.

Midori

August 24th, 2011
9:35 am

what is it about Texas that is soooooooooo 1860ish???

Bosch

August 24th, 2011
9:36 am

Yes, let’s compare teenagers giving birth to them smoking and getting tattoos.

:roll:

Jay

August 24th, 2011
9:36 am

I appreciate your concern, Call It. And just to alleviate your worries without giving away too many details, this blog gets multiple millions of visits a year and continues to grow at a very healthy rate.

Good little liberal

August 24th, 2011
9:36 am

If Perry is responsible for all the little girls and boys in Texas that like to play hide Waldo, is Obama responsible for all the organized crime in Chicago?

(ir)Rational

August 24th, 2011
9:36 am

That’s just ridiculous. Jay puts up another blog posting, pulling something from ancient history out, that obviously doesn’t matter. Especially on the national level, I mean, its the states that set the curriculum, Rick Perry wouldn’t have to deal with this as President. Sheesh Jay, quit attacking people for no reason. We get it, you’re not a big fan of Republicans.

Okay, all joking aside, yeah that is pretty bad. I don’t know about y’all but I can think back to my high school days and know that the abstinence only education that some kids had to sit through didn’t work so well. Or maybe it did, but about half the girls who took that version had kids by the time we graduated, and the other half had to drop out of college because they were having kids. The rest of us were shown slides showing VD and stuff like that and weren’t all that interested. Oh, and the difference came because our parents had to sign a permission slip for us to take the real class (gotta love the country!)

On a side note, in undeveloped nations, the most effective form of birth control has been found to be a community TV and satellite. Give the people something to do in the evenings besides, well you know.

Oh-well. Who is John Galt?

quick work break

August 24th, 2011
9:37 am

godless heathen–Republicans will get credit if their policies that can be shown to have directly worked. But at least some credit has to go to the endowment from GCAPP: the Georgia Campaign for Adolescent Pregnency Prevention. It might make your head spin to see who has been the biggest force behind that in the last decade.

Good little liberal

August 24th, 2011
9:37 am

Bosch

If it went over your head, I understand.

Adam

August 24th, 2011
9:37 am

RB: Also, the graduation rate in APS is 45%. Are you saying it would be worse than that without all this great news? That’s 45%, Jay. Why isn’t anybody standing on the rooftops screaming about that? Why isn’t that the single biggest issue in the APS community when we know the 55% will become “less fortuate”?

Ah, the fallacy that “your issue isn’t important, here’s one that IS important.”

godless heathen

August 24th, 2011
9:37 am

So the governor of Texas get all the blame but the government of Georgia gets no credit. Same old same old.

ty webb

August 24th, 2011
9:37 am

Dang it Jay, with the headline of this blog entry, I was expecting a great thesis explaining how yesterday’s earthquake was the result of “global warmi-um-climate change”…oh well, I guess we’ll just have to wait for Hurricane Irene to land for that diatribe.

USinUK

August 24th, 2011
9:38 am

GLL – “If Perry is responsible for all the little girls and boys in Texas that like to play hide Waldo”

wow.

way to TOTALLY misread the thesis.

quick work break

August 24th, 2011
9:38 am

Dangit–20 posts since I was typing my reply. Jay beat me to it.

NIght Train

August 24th, 2011
9:38 am

As the old saying goes “it takes two to tango”. So in fact, abstinence does work. If they abstain from having sex then no one becomes pregnant. However, every form of birth control should be taught… by the parents.

Sex Ed should be taught in biology class, not in every class a student takes. Parents should determine at what age this is taught also.

Do we really need 4th and 5th graders practicing putting a condom on a banana?

Bosch

August 24th, 2011
9:38 am

“You keep telling half stories, Jay,”

Seriously? What is it with the wingnuts and their analogies this morning?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 24th, 2011
9:39 am

the little girls and boys in Texas that like to play hide Waldo

That is just creepy on so many levels

Mighty Righty

August 24th, 2011
9:39 am

I think it is great that teen pregnancy rates are down in general and in Georgia in particular. I don’t know if it is attributable Global warming or what, but it is a good thing. One thing we do know is that teen pregnancy is effected by the percentage of the ethnic population. I would think that the percentage of illegals in texas has more to do with teen pregnancy rates than who is governor. But I could be wrong. It could be Bush’s fault.

Jay

August 24th, 2011
9:39 am

(ir)Rational, at the insistence of conservatives, the federal government has funded abstinence-only programs for years now.

Adam

August 24th, 2011
9:40 am

Night Train: However, every form of birth control should be taught… by the parents.

What laws would you support to enforce that?

DebbieDoRight

August 24th, 2011
9:41 am

Normal: If not abstinence, then masturbation! (new bumper sticker)

You…Are….soooooo…..BAD!!!!

Here’s my bumper sticker -”Need Abstinence? Watch Rush Undress”

jconservative

August 24th, 2011
9:41 am

So its the application.

The reason that the policy of cutting government revenue and increasing government spending has not resulted in increased government revenue is the application.

That means the applicators have been no good. Especially the last 5 applicators, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush & Obama.

Since the Democratic and Republican parties are not capable of providing efficient applicators, I guess we need new political parties.

And that means money. How about the Buffet/Gates Party. Plenty of money there.

quick work break

August 24th, 2011
9:41 am

(ir)Rational: it wasn’t ancient history (last year??) and it MATTERS that he ignores science and facts in favor of his gut feeling. That’s an important character trait.

Good little liberal

August 24th, 2011
9:42 am

USinUK

I know. I missed the point. The point is that if a Republican is in charge. they get the blame. If a Democrat is in charge, they don’t. I’m trying to think like a liberal, but intelligence keeps getting in the way.

USinUK

August 24th, 2011
9:42 am

and, for all of you people who think that kids get mixed messages if you talk about birth control, why-oh-why does the US lead the industrialized countries in the teen birth rate – do you honestly think that all they talk about in the UK / Ireland / Canada / Germany is how to stay chaste???

http://www.cdc.gov/Features/dsTeenPregnancy/

Bosch

August 24th, 2011
9:42 am

“I would think that the percentage of illegals in texas has more to do with teen pregnancy rates than who is governor.”

Yes, because we all know that only illegal teenagers have sex.

Yes, GLL, the logic of the wingnut does not compute in my brain.

matrixband

August 24th, 2011
9:42 am

abstinence might work for 40 and 50 and 60 year olds, like me….but not for 17 or 19 year olds with raging hormones! Face reality, Mr. Perry

Midori

August 24th, 2011
9:43 am

DDR — Speaking of Rush, he’s now on a mission to identify all of Obama’s previous girlfriends.

Maybe he wants to interview them to see what he’s doing wrong?

@@

August 24th, 2011
9:43 am

Abortion reduces birthrates? It also contributes to a lack of concern for human life. Violence among teens.

Just MY opinion!

godless heathen

August 24th, 2011
9:44 am

Well maybe the less dramatic drop in teen pregnancy in Texas is due to the Dallas Cowboys or Austin City Limits or something in the water.

You all are quick to pin the situation in Texas on the governor, but try hard to find any reason you can to not give any credit to the GOP government of a state that has had better success.

USinUK

August 24th, 2011
9:44 am

GLL – “The point is that if a Republican is in charge. they get the blame.”

so, tell me: do you wear a hair shirt? or are you more of a flogging yourself kind of martyr???

no one here is talking about BLAMING Perry for Texas’ birth rate – they’re talking about the efficacy of abstinence education.

something may be getting in your way, but it sure isn’t intelligence.

Midori

August 24th, 2011
9:45 am

Yes, GLL, the logic of the wingnut does not compute in my brain.

well, he does stubbornly preach that one can live high on the hog on 2K a month

Good little liberal

August 24th, 2011
9:47 am

USinUK

I’m more of a “come to a liberal blog and try to speak logically to liberals” kind of martyr.

No one is blaming Perry? So what was that video clip about?

USinUK

August 24th, 2011
9:47 am

Midori – well, you CAN live high on the hog for 2K a month – if you don’t have to pay for car insurance, rent/mortgage, clothing for the kids, utilities, etc … :-)

Bosch

August 24th, 2011
9:47 am

“It also contributes to a lack of concern for human life. Violence among teens”

Good grief — @@ did you stretch before making that leap?

kayaker 71

August 24th, 2011
9:48 am

The first half of Bookman’s thread was pretty encouraging. Then it turned into a Perry rant. There is little doubt that abstinence works. If you don’t do the deed, you have nothing to worry about. Is it realistic? Probably not. Do the participants bear a certain accountability for the outcome? For sure. You left that out, Bookman.

Peadawg

August 24th, 2011
9:48 am

“Global warming has been revealed as a hoax”

I don’t know of anyone that denies that the Earth is warming. It’s the “man-made” part that is sometimes stuck before “global warming” that is the hoax.

USinUK

August 24th, 2011
9:48 am

“So what was that video clip about?”

his stand on ABSTINENCE EDUCATION – which is the issue.

again – as I said. you’ve got something in your way … intelligence isn’t it.

Steve P.

August 24th, 2011
9:49 am

Obviously the churches in Texas are failing the youth. Perhaps they should institute mandatory testing and fire preachers or defund the churches that fail. Kind of a NO SOUL LEFT BEHIND PROGRAM….

Good little liberal

August 24th, 2011
9:49 am

Midori

High on the hog?

It’s always fun watching the lengths that you guys will go in lying about what I have said in order for you to pretend that you were correct on an issue.

Move On. You were wrong and I was right. You should be used to that by now.

Bosch

August 24th, 2011
9:49 am

“So what was that video clip about?”

That Perry refuses to see facts for what they are and will instead argue for a failed policy that has shown to not work, and how important that is if he is to be the leader of the free world.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 24th, 2011
9:49 am

(ir)Rational

August 24th, 2011
9:50 am

Jay, I knew that at one time, but think I forgot. So I guess it does matter more on a national level, but at the same time, I was being completely sarcastic with the beginning of my last post.

Oh-well. Who is John Galt?

Richard

August 24th, 2011
9:50 am

Oh come on Jay, let’s be fair. Perry said “abstinence works” not “abstinence education works.”

USinUK

August 24th, 2011
9:50 am

Bosch – to pick up on Steve P’s theme: GLL is practicing “no martyr left behind” (WOE!!! we’re blaming Perry for knocking up teens … or something like that)

godless heathen

August 24th, 2011
9:51 am

Jay’s loyal chorus checklist:
Perry. Check.
Rush. Check
Bush. Check
Backman, Palin, and Newt. Pending.

“no one here is talking about BLAMING Perry for Texas’ birth rate – ”

Cudda fooled me.

Good little liberal

August 24th, 2011
9:51 am

USinUK

So his stance on abstinence has nothing to do with the crux of the article.

Jay. You need to consult with the gal from the UK before posting stuff. You really wasted yours and our time by posting an unrelated video clip.

Aquagirl

August 24th, 2011
9:51 am

However, every form of birth control should be taught… by the parents.

That worked so well for the Palin family, what a great idea! We can extend the benefits Sairy’s grandkids get from the State to all resulting children, and the moms can get big bucks for lecturing on abstinence before marriage. What an awesome economic model.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

August 24th, 2011
9:52 am

Well, teenagers got no business having babies in the first place. We wouldn’t even have the problem if they stopped teaching You Know What to our kids. Kids need to be kept in the dark about You Know What till they’re 21 or 22. That way, they won’t start exploring and messing around. They’ll have plenty of time to learn about You Know What on their wedding night. Let it be a big suprize to them.

We can help here by just outlawing womens make-up. These teenage girls put on rouge and lipstick and eye liner and all kind of stuff. No wonder the boys get all riled up. If they could see just how butt-ugly women and girls are without make-up, they’d leave the girls alone.

So let’s go back to talking about how so and so got a visit from the stork and how some married woman was in the Family Way. We need to nip this teenage pregnancy thing in the bud. If we all work together kids won’t hear nothing about You Know What and there won’t never be a teenage mother again.

That’s my opinion and it’s very true. Have a good Wednesday everybody. And you women out there—stop putting on make-up and setting a bad example for your little girls. Your husband already knows how you really look. It’s time the rest of the world did too.

Union

August 24th, 2011
9:52 am

“I appreciate your concern, Call It. And just to alleviate your worries without giving away too many details, this blog gets multiple millions of visits a year and continues to grow at a very healthy rate.”

lmao.. thats funny.. need to tell your it dept to figure out what unique visitors are to a page..

Granny Godzilla

August 24th, 2011
9:52 am

Perry? Hasn’t he flamed out yet?

I give him 3 months…..

Bosch

August 24th, 2011
9:52 am

USinUK,

I guess next we’ll see GLL’s predicatable “Go ahead Jay, BAN me because I know you will because you don’t like people who disagree with you and you liberals are fascists working to SILENCE the opposition.”

:roll:

(ir)Rational

August 24th, 2011
9:53 am

quick work break – I was just trying out what it felt like to attack Jay for no good reason. If you read the entire post, you would have seen just under that paragraph where I said something about “all joking aside” or something like that. Meaning I was joking in that first paragraph.

Oh-well. Who is John Galt?

USinUK

August 24th, 2011
9:54 am

godless – “Cudda fooled me.”

yes. I’m sure you ARE easily fooled. (see: GOP)

GLL – “So his stance on abstinence has nothing to do with the crux of the article”

there is a world of difference between “abstinence education doesn’t work” and “the Texas teen pregnancy rate is all YOUR FAULT”

although, given the way you people like to blame Obama for the EU economy, I’m not surprised that you’re ready to make that leap

Good little liberal

August 24th, 2011
9:54 am

Bosch

Ah. but that’s not blaming Perry. That’s just showing that they guy in charge is wrong and the result of his being wrong is more teen pregnancies. LOL!!

It is so much fun coming here.

jt

August 24th, 2011
9:54 am

Another chapter of Statism logic……………..or lack thereof.
.
A teen is not mature enough to handle parenthood………………..but is mature enough to join the military and kill brown people.

USinUK

August 24th, 2011
9:54 am

“you and you liberals are fascists working to SILENCE the opposition”

dammit, Bosch – they’re onto us!!!

Mighty Righty

August 24th, 2011
9:55 am

We can expect more of this kind of drivel between now and the election of Obama’s replacement. The poor Democrats have nothing to brag about so they are hard at work looking for anything they can turn into a negative. This topic probably came from the Obama research committee. BTW, abstinence is the only birth control method that does work. It is ignorant to deny this fact.

stands for decibels

August 24th, 2011
9:55 am

That CDC list sure does speak well for conservative values, doesn’t it?

Normal

August 24th, 2011
9:55 am

DebbieDoRight

August 24th, 2011
9:41 am

Thanks for that mental image DDR, I Hate you! :lol:

DebbieDoRight

August 24th, 2011
9:56 am

Another Bumper Sticker:

MISPO – “Maybe I Should’ve Pulled Out”

WWJDNTHOCS? – “What Would Jesus Do Now That He Owes Child Support?”

USinUK

August 24th, 2011
9:56 am

GG – “Hasn’t he flamed out yet?”

with that hair? do you want a repeat of the Michael Jackson tragedy?

(ir)Rational

August 24th, 2011
9:56 am

USinUK – that’s right! We’re on to you! Run, hide, we’re coming with pitchforks! ;)

Oh-well. Who is John Galt?

USinUK

August 24th, 2011
9:57 am

“This topic probably came from the Obama research committee. ”

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

because the MILLIONS of federal tax dollars being pumped into the religious groups that produce an education program that DOESN’T WORK isn’t a relevent issue when discussing the budget.

(ir)Rational

August 24th, 2011
9:58 am

Oh, USinUK – you’re in the UK so when I come with my pitchfork, can I crash on your sofa? Maybe you could hook me up with tickets to an Arsenal game too? :)

Oh-well. Who is John Galt?

USinUK

August 24th, 2011
9:58 am

(ir) – don’t know who he is, but I hear he’s down at the pub, refusing to buy a pint of bitter

Generation$crewed

August 24th, 2011
9:59 am

has anyone that anybody here personally knows ever became pregnant while practicing abstinence?

WOODSTOCK MIKE

August 24th, 2011
10:00 am

When you compare teenage birth rates one would think that the makeup of a population has to be figured in. I’m thinking Texas has many more minorities (who as Jay points out are much more prone to teenage preganancies) than states like Vermont. Either way, to say it’s Rick Perry’s fault that Texas teenagers don’t use condoms is quite funny.

This really hows Democrats have nothing to talk about besides rediculous topics such as this one… Luckily only the fringe left looks at this article and says, wow, can you believe this, that Rick Perry is the devil… HAHA

DebbieDoRight

August 24th, 2011
10:00 am

Even more bumper stickers (Blame Normal — it’s his fault I’m doing this)

“My child serves honor rolls at Baker College – Thanks Abstinence-Only Programs!!”

“Inside every Abstinence-Only program is a pregnancy trying to get out”

godless heathen

August 24th, 2011
10:00 am

Palin. Check.

(ir)Rational

August 24th, 2011
10:00 am

US – That’s probably because he only drinks stout?

Oh-well. Who is John Galt?