Rick Perry, the GOP’s new BMOC; Mitt Romney, not so much
Mitt Romney is playing the long game in his bid for the GOP presidential nomination, which is pretty smart for a couple of reasons:
1.) His top two challengers, Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry, both have high probability of doing and saying stupid things that would cause their self-destruction.
2.) He really has no other choice. He knows he’s not the hot date that Republican primary voters dream about as their escort to the big dance. He just hopes to be the steady, nerdish, boring guy — the one who shows up driving his mother’s Audi — that they’ll settle for once other options are no longer available.
Two new polls demonstrate the wisdom and necessity of that approach. Gallup, for example, reports that 29 percent of Republicans now favor Perry as their party’s nominee. Romney, who drew 27 percent as recently as June, has fallen back to 17 percent. Ron Paul, at 13 percent, and Bachmann, at 10 percent, are the only other two in double digits. (Herman Cain, a previous flavor of the month, has declined to 4 percent.)
A poll by Public Policy Polling produces a parallel prognostication, putting Perry at 33 percent. Romney draws 20 percent and Bachmann 16 percent. You have to think that as Bachmann fades, most of her hard-core tea-party support will gravitate to the man from Texas, not the man from Massachusetts.
So patience, Mitt, patience. Be the Audi-driving tortoise, not the Texas jackrabbit.
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Adam
August 25th, 2011
8:25 am
stands: Yeah. Drug testing experiment didn’t work. You know I got into arguments with people who were otherwise liberal down here because of the “personal experience trumps all” fallacy. They SEE people in certain communities just trade drugs and use food stamps to get them – somehow. And they ALL do it. Mind you, they must know EVERYONE in those communities. One of them claimed to work at an office to help them, and said they came away FEELING like everyone used drugs.
stands for decibels
August 25th, 2011
8:28 am
GG, thanks for the correction.
I was thinking “but the Times costs more than a buck these days…”
Jm
August 25th, 2011
8:28 am
Msnbc host line of the day: “we assume someone up in DC is going to take care of us and look out for us”
Says it all for the liberal mindset
Adam
August 25th, 2011
8:30 am
Jm: The line “do for yourself” only goes as far as you CAN do for yourself. Somehow, people forget that not everyone has a car and can evacuate themselves, and not everyone can afford to get boards to board up their house. Apparently though, those people either don’t exist or don’t count, because when people can’t take care of themselves when a natural disaster hits, tough luck huh?
This just in ...
August 25th, 2011
8:31 am
The Obama Administration has determined that the underlying cause of the earthquake was a previously undiscovered geological formation called Bush’s Fault.
Granny Godzilla
August 25th, 2011
8:31 am
Jm
what a far fetched idea…a government that cares for its people.
as opposed the the conservative mindset that says the government
should do squat…..see current House of Representatives.
WOODSTOCK MIKE
August 25th, 2011
8:32 am
Another day, another story bashing Republicans.
All while the country needs some real leadership to solve its issues.
Got a good laugh though this morning, heard a campaign speech of Obama’s in 2008, he said exactly the following…
“George Bush has ran up 4 trillion dollars in 8 years, basically used a credit card with our childrens name on it that they will have to pay back, this type of spending is un-American, it’s un-patriotic.”
Well, 3 years later Obama has hit the 4 trillion dollar mark himself but hey, it doesn’t matter, it’s not his fault and you can bet that nobody on this fringe left blog will hold him accountable for anything whatsoever. Gotta love it!!
Granny Godzilla
August 25th, 2011
8:32 am
this just in…..two days ago….
Granny Godzilla
August 25th, 2011
8:33 am
Another day, another story bashing Republicans.
Actually if you looked you would notice it’s another day but same story as yesterday….
Bill Campbell
August 25th, 2011
8:34 am
Obama is the worst President in American History!
stands for decibels
August 25th, 2011
8:35 am
I got into arguments with people who were otherwise liberal down here
Few things sadder than low-level “liberals” trying to have a Sistah Soulja moment on stuff like this.
Adam
August 25th, 2011
8:35 am
Another day, another time Republicans will so no to any big package of deficit reduction. Another day, another time Republicans won’t pass a jobs bill….
Elvis
August 25th, 2011
8:36 am
Thank ya, Granny, thank ya very much!
stands for decibels
August 25th, 2011
8:37 am
heard a campaign speech of Obama’s in 2008
Which bottle-blonde from Fox and Fiends intro’d it?
Mick
August 25th, 2011
8:37 am
normal
The funny thing about drug tests is that there are ways to counter every one of them except for a blood test, nice game we are playing…
Paul
August 25th, 2011
8:38 am
Woodstock Mick
Do you think the circumstances of running up the debt is the issue, or is it just the number?
By circumtances, I mean coming into office with a predecesor who left a surplus, then embarking on a series of actions that reduced revenue (tax cuts) and increased obligations (Medicare drug plan, couple of off-budget wars, that sort of stuff) all the while providing anemic jobs growth over eight years, which means revenue doesn’t grow much, with
Coming into office with a 1.2 trillion deficit left by your predecessor (which your opponents want to charge to your administration), the loss of hundreds of thousands of job a month, the worst financial crisis in 80 years….
those sorts of circumstances.
Adam
August 25th, 2011
8:38 am
stands: Not sure what you’re trying to say. But prejudice runs deep for anyone stuck in a particular situation for long enough, with enough people pointing out what they think the cause is, and no real positive outlook. It’s called groupthink.
Mick
August 25th, 2011
8:39 am
**Well, 3 years later Obama has hit the 4 trillion dollar mark himself but hey, it doesn’t matter**
This myth has endless life, not a factual statement…repeat…
Doggone/GA
August 25th, 2011
8:41 am
“This myth has endless life, not a factual statement…repeat”
You’re forgetting the mantra of the conned: NEVER let a good lie die
Paul
August 25th, 2011
8:42 am
Woodstock Mike
And if you really want to get into the issue, you could think about whether or not Pres Bush needed to run up the debt. By ‘needed’ I mean, were there extraordinary circumstances he was responding to, or was it largely because of voluntary programs he decided to implement and not pay for?
Jm
August 25th, 2011
8:42 am
Um Mick. Its factual. Liberals that deny it completely undermine their credibility
Adam
August 25th, 2011
8:42 am
Paul: Good news! With no more hostage to take, or at least no greater hostage to take than the debt ceiling, NOTHING will pass. NOT EVEN an extension of the Bush Tax Cuts, even if that extension was only extended to the lower classes. The Republicans will fight for “all Americans” to keep their tax break while the Democrats will fight for the middle class to keep it, and nothing will pass.
The only way this would NOT happen is if the GOP does manage to secure all of the legislative and executive branches. I hope if they do that the Democrats filibuster the damn thing. The best thing that can happen is for that set of tax cuts to expire, and then when someone starts saying “we need to reduce taxes!” that the Democrats only support measures that do so for the LEAST affluent among us.
Bosch
August 25th, 2011
8:43 am
” I wonder how much the testing by this “fiscal conservative” is costing Florida”
That’s always been the first point I bring up when I hear someone say we need to drug test welfare recipients. How much is it gonna cost the state? I’ll wager it costs more to do this, than the recipient gets per month.
Mick
August 25th, 2011
8:44 am
jm
Ummm, jm, this has been disproved ad nauseum here again and again but go ahead and believe in this fairy tale if it makes you feel superior…
Adam
August 25th, 2011
8:44 am
Not to mention the existing laws put in place to wind down the wars, etc. We’ll be back to reaching a balanced budget in no time the more revenue starts to come in and old programs that have cost us trillions over the past decade die off. All the President has to do is sit back and wait.
stands for decibels
August 25th, 2011
8:45 am
Not sure what you’re trying to say.
’sOK, you’ve got lots of company.
What I was trying to say is that many liberals have a perverse need to prove that they’re not TOO liberal, why, they are, um, fiscally conservative (W-everTF that means these days)! and by golly, they’d be all for making things as difficult as possible for any potential “welfare cheat”!
…generally these assertions are fact-free and emotion-laden, but their objective is the same as Billy-Jeff Clinton’s was in 1992–to try to establish some “pragmatic” cred by tacking right.
I think those “liberals” who support drug testing public assistance recipients could fall into that category.
That all said, your point about groupthink is probably more on the mark than mine. Figuring this out for sure is well above my pay grade.
anyway, gotta go produce. Might be back if Jay’s got something new for us.
Bosch
August 25th, 2011
8:45 am
Bosch Prediction #1:
Faced with tough questions by Paul about GWB, Woodstock will write in about how he didn’t like Bush and didn’t care for his policies, but somehow, Obama is worse (with nothing else to provide basis for such opinion).
Adam
August 25th, 2011
8:46 am
Bosch: For the record, the drug testing has cost more than the average benefits per person, because only 2 people tested failed, and one of those is on appeal. The rest had to be refunded, and the testing cost was more than the $240 avg per person.
Steve - B.
August 25th, 2011
8:47 am
Not really excited about any of the Republican candidates and it is obvious Obama is lost at sea. Yikes, this is depressing.
USinUK
August 25th, 2011
8:49 am
Bosch – 8:45 – cuz evidence is for p$$$ies
1811/0311
August 25th, 2011
8:49 am
You libs. had no comment yesterday on this but I’ll give you one more chance.
What a great campaign commercial this is going to make !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kuTG19Cu_Q
1811/0311
August 25th, 2011
8:51 am
“JOBLESS RATE JUMPS AGAIN…”
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 25th, 2011
8:52 am
Someone wants us to go down their rabbit hole.
Adam
August 25th, 2011
8:54 am
And when the 2012 elections are coming and the jobless rates are going way down, what will be the anti-Obama ads then? The jobless rate USED to be up?
Paul
August 25th, 2011
8:54 am
It’s kinda like all these talking points I’ve been hearing over the last few days about “The Obama Administration has implemented a quadrillion gazillion regulations which is stifling business and costing jobs!” and I think “how is that calculated? Is it “Policy for Compliance With Program A” is a new regulation, or do they count each sentence or subpoint as a separate regulation so ‘use Form 123. sign and date the form…. send it in by Jan 1′ is counted as three regulations?
Paul
August 25th, 2011
8:56 am
Scout
“no comment yesterday on this but I’ll give you one more chance.”
See my 8:38 and 8:42 -
1811/0311
August 25th, 2011
8:56 am
Good Fight:
No need for the rabbit hole. You can’t touch that one.
El Jeffe said it and now he has to live with it. Kind of like “No new taxes” ………..
Can’t wait for it in a campaign commericial.
Definition:
“Rabbit Hole” ……… when a lib. has no argument or debate.
1811/0311
August 25th, 2011
8:58 am
Paul:
Won’t hold water. He’s “Unpatriotic” for that and many other reasons.
Paul
August 25th, 2011
8:59 am
make that “or do they count each sentence or subpoint as a separate regulation so ‘use Form 123. sign and date the form…. send it in by Jan 1′ is counted as three regulations?’
is really four regulations because ‘use Form 123′ is one regulation, signing the form is one reg, dating it is one new regulation, sending it in is one regulation, so it’s four?
Fuzzy math, anyone?
AmVet
August 25th, 2011
8:59 am
“Obama is the worst President in American History!”
Silly Bushbot…
Adam
August 25th, 2011
8:59 am
Paul: But Obama removed many regulations just recently….
Oh wait, that one didn’t get aired on Fox or by Rush, so I guess it isn’t real!
Good little liberal
August 25th, 2011
8:59 am
Granny Godzilla
A government that cares for people?
We have had a welfare state for 50 years, but poverty keeps growing . . . more poor people now than ever.
Maybe giving people a free ride is not the answer.
1811/0311
August 25th, 2011
8:59 am
“In a relentless campaign to “transform America” from history’s most successful constitutional republic into just one more weak European-style entitlement society based on all-powerful central government and massive wealth “redistribution,” Obama and his administration have shredded the Constitution in every conceivable manner.”
Amen and amen.
Paul
August 25th, 2011
9:01 am
Scout
“Won’t hold water. He’s “Unpatriotic” for that and many other reasons.”
Bosch 8:45 and USinUK 8:49 had more supporting reasons for the assertions.
USinUK
August 25th, 2011
9:01 am
“Won’t hold water. ”
I submit to the court, evidence marked 1A for reasons not to go down the rabbit hole.
USinUK
August 25th, 2011
9:02 am
dangitall, Paul – I owe you a coke!
and now … a conference call …
back later
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 25th, 2011
9:02 am
Nice try Scout but there are differences and your attempt can be distinguished. It will only make a difference to the extreme, like your silly repetitive birther/non-birther what about line 26 assertions. I am still waiting for you to tell us what we all needed to know from the long form that was the basis for all your innuendo….. you have it now, so what was it that was going to shock our world?
Paul
August 25th, 2011
9:03 am
Adam
I think one of the Fox news/opinion/chat shows did, but the reason Pres Obama had was he was trying to curry political favor to mask his failed policies………
D. Richard
August 25th, 2011
9:03 am
“You libs. had no comment yesterday on this but I’ll give you one more chance.”
Who are you talking to? I don’t see a poster with the handle “You libs”…
1811/0311
August 25th, 2011
9:04 am
HA HA Libs. !
Can’t wait for that campaign commercial …………… it smells of ……….. “votes” !!!
1811/0311
August 25th, 2011
9:05 am
D. Richard:
If the shoe fits wear it ………… othewise get on board with common sense.
AmVet
August 25th, 2011
9:05 am
Please don’t feed the “patriotic” troll.
Good little liberal
August 25th, 2011
9:06 am
Paul
“It’s kinda like all these talking points I’ve been hearing over the last few days about “The Obama Administration has implemented a quadrillion gazillion regulations which is stifling business and costing jobs!” and I think “how is that calculated?”
Are you saying that putting more regulations on private business has not hurt the job situation?
Also, Bush spent more in a stable economy. GDP/debt remained the same. Obama has pushed that number from less than 50% under Bush to over 70% with an outlook of over 85% by election time.
This idea that Bush spent a lot so in spite of the fact that all liberals blame Bush for over spending, Obama should be able to spend multiples of what Bush spent, is sort of idiotic, don’t you think?
1811/0311
August 25th, 2011
9:06 am
Hey, let’s watch it one more time just for fun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kuTG19Cu_Q
Adam
August 25th, 2011
9:07 am
GLL: Are you saying that putting more regulations on private business has not hurt the job situation?
Yes, because the premise (that more regulations were placed) didn’t happen. Except in response to the oil leak. Poor, poor oil drilling companies…
Steve - B.
August 25th, 2011
9:08 am
I don’t know what is worse, people who get their news from Fox or people who get their news from MSNBC.
D. Richard
August 25th, 2011
9:08 am
Funny, who would have thought that a ton of regulations would lead to the record profits being reported by companies today? Good for those companies. But they still won’t hire more people….darn Obama.
1811/0311
August 25th, 2011
9:09 am
………………. one more time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kuTG19Cu_Q
poison pen
August 25th, 2011
9:10 am
1811/0311
” Hey, let’s watch it one more time just for fun:”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kuTG19Cu_Q
1811, When are you going to stop with the truth?
Good little liberal
August 25th, 2011
9:10 am
Adam
“Yes, because the premise (that more regulations were placed) didn’t happen.”
Not according to the government accountability office:
The burden of regulation on Americans increased at an alarming rate in fiscal year 2010. Based on data from the Government Accountability Office, an unprecedented 43 major new regulations were imposed by Washington. And based on reports from government regulators themselves, the total cost of these rules topped $26.5 billion, far more than any other year for which records are available. These costs will affect Americans in many ways, raising the price of the cars they buy and the food they eat, while destroying an untold number of jobs. With the enactment of new health care laws, financial regulations, and plans for rulemaking in other areas, the regulatory burden on Americans is set to increase even further in the coming year.
1811/0311
August 25th, 2011
9:11 am
D. Richard:
Those who “can” make this economy run are waiting until Obama is gone. Why? They don’t trust him.
The sooner the better.
1811/0311
August 25th, 2011
9:11 am
poison pen:
………………………….
Granny Godzilla
August 25th, 2011
9:11 am
Good Little Liberal
“Maybe giving people a free ride is not the answer”
True for people people and corporation people too.
Which total number is bigger?
AmVet
August 25th, 2011
9:12 am
Too many regulations?
Some have to go?
But which ones?
And why?
Huh????
You expect me to actually know of what I speak with any credible detail???
Sheesh…
Good little liberal
August 25th, 2011
9:13 am
1811/0311
I think this is the first in many, many, many quotes where Obama will be eating his own words. It is going to be an interesting year. So far the reason why the liberal pundits are giving for re-electing Obama is because they don’t like and of the republicans that are being offered. Libs not liking Republicans? Say it ain’t so.
Good little liberal
August 25th, 2011
9:15 am
Granny Godzilla
Corporations hire people. So you want to cut their tax breaks? Haven’t we ran enough of them off?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 25th, 2011
9:15 am
Granny, I have to disagree. People generally are not getting “free rides”, they are getting a helping hand and when programs work correctly, the help is temporary. Now corporations get a free ride.
Bosch
August 25th, 2011
9:16 am
Paul,
Are you a “lib” today?
Gator Joe
August 25th, 2011
9:17 am
Jay,
What the Left, or anyone for that matter, should fear about Perry is his association with the radical Christian Right (research the major players who organized the prayer rally), his views on scientific issues such as climate change and evolution, and his opinions regarding the Constitution. I personally fear that he won’t last long enough to run against President Obama.
Good little liberal
August 25th, 2011
9:18 am
Keep Up
“People generally are not getting “free rides”, they are getting a helping hand and when programs work correctly, the help is temporary.”
That doesn’t exactly explain the generational poverty that affects so many Americans.
Steve - B.
August 25th, 2011
9:19 am
‘Keep Up the Good Fight’ – so should a limit be put on how long someone should be given a helping hand? What would be fair for someone who is not disabled, 1 year?, 2 years?, 5 years? Lifetime?
I ask because I don’t have the answer.
poison pen
August 25th, 2011
9:20 am
Bosch
Bosch Prediction #1:
” Faced with tough questions by Paul about GWB, Woodstock will write in about how he didn’t like Bush and didn’t care for his policies, but somehow, Obama is worse (with nothing else to provide basis for such opinion).”
Don’t know about Woodstock, but I would say, higher deficit, higher unemployment, worse consumer sentiment, lower S&P rating, those are just for start.
Granny Godzilla
August 25th, 2011
9:20 am
GLL
Which number is bigger?
Coporate wefare or people Welfare?
(run off? sure. somalia would love to have them. if they really believed there was some place better to operate they’d have been there long long ago – don’t be so gullible and naive)
Good little liberal
August 25th, 2011
9:20 am
Gator Joe
Since when is organizing public pray rallies considered radical?
Ever hear of Billy Graham?
Paul
August 25th, 2011
9:21 am
Good little liberal
“and I think “how is that calculated?”
Are you saying that putting more regulations on private business has not hurt the job situation? ”
Ummm…. no….. I’m saying I wonder how the number of regulations is calculated.
“Bush spent more in a stable economy”
Was that after he took over from a Democrat or just before he handed it over to a Democrat?
. “GDP/debt remained the same. Obama has pushed that number from less than 50% under Bush to over 70% with an outlook of over 85% by election time. ”
Cite?
“Are you saying that putting more regulations on private business has not hurt the job situation? ”
Given corporate profits are at a decades-long record high, I’m not sure how strong the correlation is. But it does appear, on the surface, at least, that more regulations leads to higher corporate profits, doesn’t it?
D. Richard – just saw your post. What’ the phrase? Oh yeah… Ditto!
Scout
“Those who “can” make this economy run are waiting until Obama is gone. Why? They don’t trust him.”
So these CEOs of huge corporations are deliberately sabotaging the recovery and keeping people unemployed because of their feelings for the President.
So much for the patriotism of the Right.
off to the gym -
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 25th, 2011
9:22 am
GLL, I agree that calling something a “free ride” does not explain poverty or programs to help, or even the combination of efforts needed to help systematic poverty that results from a number of interacting forces. “Free ride” is a bumper sticker dog whistle that does not address the nuances or reality.
poison pen
August 25th, 2011
9:22 am
Steve – B.
” ‘Keep Up the Good Fight’ – so should a limit be put on how long someone should be given a helping hand? What would be fair for someone who is not disabled, 1 year?, 2 years?, 5 years? Lifetime?”
I ask because I don’t have the answer.
Steve, I don’t know either, but Michigan just passed a law limiting Welfare to 4 years. There are people who have been collecting it for decades and they needed to do something.
Good little liberal
August 25th, 2011
9:22 am
Granny Godzilla
Is the bigger number the reason we use to run them away? You do realize that we have sustained unemployment over 9%, don’t you?
Many have left and are continuing to do so. The unemployment numbers and the claims by pundits from both side, the reports by all media and almost everyone on this blog say that companies are leaving our shores, so please tell me who is being gullible and naive?
Good little liberal
August 25th, 2011
9:24 am
Keep Up
Free food. Free Housing. Free medical care. Free monthly check. You can polish that thing all day but it will still smell bad.
Mick
August 25th, 2011
9:25 am
**Those who “can” make this economy run are waiting until Obama is gone.**
Total BS, people who make money – make money, that’s what they do, the president has nothing to do with it. Also, who makes laws? Who controls the house in congress? Your points are getting a bit embarassing these days…
Steve Hodges
August 25th, 2011
9:25 am
And all this time I thought the weekly jobless claims were high due to a lack of jobs. Those damn unions are to blame for causing Obama’s troubles. Organizer, meet organized.
Weekly Claims Above Key Mark Thanks to Verizon Strike
“New U.S. claims for unemployment benefits rose more than expected last week, lifted by striking Verizon Communications workers, a government report showed on Thursday.
Initial claims for state unemployment benefits rose 5,000 to a seasonally adjusted 417,000, the Labor Department said, but still nowhere near levels that would signal a recession.
Striking Verizon workers filed 8,500 claims for jobless benefits last week, after submitting 12,500 applications the previous week, which covered the period for the August nonfarm payrolls survey.
That suggests that the strike would have a negative affect on the payrolls count, which will be reported on Sept. 2. The strike against Verizon has ended.
Economists polled by Reuters had forecast claims rising to 405,000 last week. The prior week’s claims were revised up to 412,000 from the previously reported 408,000.”
*********************
Gee, that’s a surprise. Revised up from the previous report. Shocking
Paul
August 25th, 2011
9:25 am
AmVet
“Too many regulations?
Some have to go?
But which ones?
And why?”
According to GLL, there are only 43 of them.
Scout, you should have a pretty easy time with AmVet’s question, eh?
And GLL, ‘43 new regulations’ is likely solid, the $$$ cost is an estimate and the effects are hysteria.
Bosch
Am I a lib today? Well, just as long as it’s not ‘be an a$$hole today’ I should be fine.
now I really gotta go – later, all -
D. Richard
August 25th, 2011
9:26 am
“Those who “can” make this economy run are waiting until Obama is gone. Why? They don’t trust him.”
Gotcha. The old, wait until the uncertainty is gone trick. Although, uncertainty also seems to be helping these company’s bottom lines immensely.
Steve - B.
August 25th, 2011
9:26 am
‘poisen pen’
Thank you. I didn’t know that. It will be interesting to see how that works out. Thanks again.
RB from Gwinnett
August 25th, 2011
9:26 am
Jay Bookman supporting Mitt Romney is all the information any conservative should need to know NOT to vote for the man.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 25th, 2011
9:27 am
Steve B — there is no one “program” that is a helping hand. There are variety of programs, some with limits. Thus, to try to give a specific answer to your question is not possible. A jobs training program for an individual may take some time. Financial assistance for someone who’s income is insufficient to pay rent for the geographic area they live in may need to be longer. Assistance to an 80 year old woman may differ. Simple answers to complicated problems usually result in foolishness.
Granny Godzilla
August 25th, 2011
9:28 am
GLL
Please share those media reports with us.
I am not impressed by corporate bluster. If they can find a
nation where they can make the kind of profits they are making here and now – let them go. If they haven’t left yet it’s because they are too stupid to go to that new golden land or they are pulling the wool over your eyes – again.
What number is bigger? Who’s “wefare” costs us more? Who are the
real “free riders”?
Steve - B.
August 25th, 2011
9:28 am
Jay – That would be an interesting article. How long should people get a helping hand? Perhaps you have already wrote a piece on that and I missed it.
Bosch
August 25th, 2011
9:28 am
“Jay Bookman supporting Mitt Romney is all the information any conservative should need to know NOT to vote for the man.”
Yes, true. I think Perry or Bachmann would be a much better candidate to run for the GOP.
(oh please, oh please, oh please)
poison pen
August 25th, 2011
9:29 am
Paul,
” So these CEOs of huge corporations are deliberately sabotaging the recovery and keeping people unemployed because of their feelings for the President.”
So much for the patriotism of the Right.
off to the gym -
Paul, What about Jeff Imelt? He is a lib and just moved a ton of work out of the country and then just signed on with China for a multi Billion project to help China build planes so they could take business away from Boeing and American workers.
Hey! it’s all Bush’s fault.
AmVet
August 25th, 2011
9:29 am
Not that outrageous tax shelters, contrived rewards and numerous other profiteering benefits have ANYTHING to do with multinationals outsourcing and relocating, huh?
Outsource CxO positions, not working class Americans.
Indian and other foreign executives would work for MUCH less than our entitled welfare kings and would likely do a much better job at running these companies…
kayaker 71
August 25th, 2011
9:29 am
Rasmussen don’t look too good today for Bozo.
14% of voters thing think that the country is headed in the right direction.
79% feel that the country is on the wrong track.
417K new unemployment claims last week
63% of Democrats feel that the country is on the wrong track.
53% of black voters feel that the country is on the wrong track/.
Same with 83% of whites and 77% of persons of other ethnicities
21% strongly approve of Bozo
44% strongly disapprove
Bozo still trails a generic Republican b 5 percentage points.
Something ain’t working.
Bosch
August 25th, 2011
9:31 am
Yeah PAUL!! WHAT ABOUT IMELT!! The newest wingnut boogeyman….
….
AmVet
August 25th, 2011
9:31 am
“Hey! it’s all Bush’s fault.”
For the umpteenth time, nothing is Bush’s fault.
Some of his bootlickers have written on this very forum that the economy was in good shape when he left office.
I ____ you not…
philosopher
August 25th, 2011
9:32 am
Bachmann, Perry and Romney ALL scare me…While I am not usually concerned about a person’s personal faith, when someone runs for office and plans to govern my country, I want to know what forces drive them…more than just the superficial stuff we hear from them. Bachmann and Perry are backed by Dominionist Christians and Romney by Mormons- all with aspirations of gaining control and ruling the earth…yeah, you have to dig a bit deeper on the Mormon thing because they don’t shout it to the world…they hide it with “keepers” in their big hideout…but it’s there and it’s scary.
And Dusty… “Well, RIGHT NOW, what most USA wimmin want is a leader. Spelled.l-e-a-d-e-r . And needed immediately for the USA. If Perry appears to be a stronger leader than others, then he fills the bill.” Hitler appeared to be a good leader to folks at one point, too…how did that one work out? Maybe we should look a tad bit deeper?
Rightwing Troll
August 25th, 2011
9:32 am
“Those who “can” make this economy run are waiting until Obama is gone. Why? They don’t trust him.”
What was thier (and your) excuse before Obama took office?
marc
August 25th, 2011
9:33 am
Only in America could a ignorant white Texan ruin the economy….a black man get all the blame..and another ignorant white Texan run to the rescue…i mean who writes this shi#?
lynnie gal
August 25th, 2011
9:33 am
Rick Perry reminds me of Major Kong riding the bomb from Dr. Strangelove:
http://youtu.be/wcW_Ygs6hm0
Brosephus
August 25th, 2011
9:34 am
Obama and his administration have shredded the Constitution in every conceivable manner.”
You gotta have a dull assed life to start your day off with such BS…
Partisay
August 25th, 2011
9:35 am
Good Little Liberal….so you want to play the “eating his own words” game? You really think that makes a difference? Remember in the debates when Bush said he was against “nation building”? But then we tear down Iraq and build it back? Dream on if you think quotes by Obama 2, 3, 4 years ago will make a difference to anybody. That game can be played every election by everyone running.
“That doesn’t exactly explain the generational poverty that affects so many Americans.”
And I love it when those on the right play the welfare game of how bad it has made America. So…you think if the government had never done anything to help anybody it would have been any better? No welfare, no social security. What would the country be like today? Would there be any poverty at all? You make it sound like there wouldn’t be because after all, you want it explained why poverty affects so many Americans!! We would be like the 3rd world countries in other parts of the world. The super rich and the super poor.
But….that’s what conservatives want. No income distribution, ever! If you ain’t got it or can’t get, that’s just too damn bad.
Again…tell us what this country would be llike without the Great Society. Since it was such a “failure” as conservatives say, what would it be like? Would there be any poverty today without welfare? Better say no, because if you admit there would still be poverty if welfare had never been implemented, then by your own definition, it would be a failure.