Rick Perry, the GOP’s new BMOC; Mitt Romney, not so much
Mitt Romney is playing the long game in his bid for the GOP presidential nomination, which is pretty smart for a couple of reasons:
1.) His top two challengers, Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry, both have high probability of doing and saying stupid things that would cause their self-destruction.
2.) He really has no other choice. He knows he’s not the hot date that Republican primary voters dream about as their escort to the big dance. He just hopes to be the steady, nerdish, boring guy — the one who shows up driving his mother’s Audi — that they’ll settle for once other options are no longer available.
Two new polls demonstrate the wisdom and necessity of that approach. Gallup, for example, reports that 29 percent of Republicans now favor Perry as their party’s nominee. Romney, who drew 27 percent as recently as June, has fallen back to 17 percent. Ron Paul, at 13 percent, and Bachmann, at 10 percent, are the only other two in double digits. (Herman Cain, a previous flavor of the month, has declined to 4 percent.)
A poll by Public Policy Polling produces a parallel prognostication, putting Perry at 33 percent. Romney draws 20 percent and Bachmann 16 percent. You have to think that as Bachmann fades, most of her hard-core tea-party support will gravitate to the man from Texas, not the man from Massachusetts.
So patience, Mitt, patience. Be the Audi-driving tortoise, not the Texas jackrabbit.
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josef
August 24th, 2011
6:01 pm
BRUNO
You jus’ tryin’ to stir up trouble, ain’t you!
BTW
Since you haven’t read that chapter, check out the link I posted earlier on Abigail Minis to Jm…
Kamchak
August 24th, 2011
6:02 pm
I will stick to small batches and not offer it for sale…
Doesn’t matter. It remains illegal to produce hard liquor without a license.
Jm
August 24th, 2011
6:02 pm
Uncle Jed, Ive been looking at those online
If your Dawson guy has a website, would be handy dandy
Joe Mama
August 24th, 2011
6:04 pm
Uncle Jed — “Any recipes or input would be welcome.”
Ah wisht ah could help, but there’s been no stillin’ in my family since my grandpappy did it during Prohibition.
Grandpappy would tell some tales about it, if he was in a mood to, but that’s as close as I’ve ever come to that sort of thing.
Fred
August 24th, 2011
6:07 pm
“Michelle IS over the top Granny; over the top of everyone else standing around her, that is! You are much too serious. She is a large woman who basically dwarfs every other person (or monument) around her in every picture that is taken of her.”
Yeah but I think she’s pretty hot. I can do without her vampire fangs, but other than that………… I think she looks a lot like Sigourney Weaver, except for skin pigmentation, they could be twins.
Left wing management
August 24th, 2011
6:07 pm
Jay: “My problem with him vs. Obama is that because he is reliant on his party for support, he has to pretend to believe and think things he doesn’t think or believe. And that won’t cease should he be elected.”
How is this actually a difference, Jay?
Did Obama not pretend to believe things he obviously doesn’t believe just to get elected with a D by his name?
The only difference between them might lie in the question of what they do when elected, Obama never hesitating to gut-punch his base, partly to woo independents but also to score easy points from the media. It’s far from clear that the inverse would work were Romney president.
josef
August 24th, 2011
6:08 pm
Uncle Jed…
Can’t help you…family secrets!
AND on Romney..
I (gasp!) agree pretty much with what Jay says…he’s not my candidate and I wouldn’t vote for him, but he doesn’t scare me…
saywhat?
August 24th, 2011
6:08 pm
Count me as another Democrat who believes Romney is the biggest threat to a second Obama term. Romney’s biggest vulnerability, if the Obama campaign has any chops what so ever, is his multitude of 180 degree position changes. Rove and company worked the flip-flop thing against Kerry so well around minor position changes, that a ridiculous meme became an actual issue in the minds of some voters, that still resonates years later.
Mitt Romney, the poster boy of flip flops doesn’t stand a chance if it is brought to bear against him with the ferocity with which it was applied to Kerry. However, since Obama is a democrat, this line of attack will be avoided due to the risk of it being effective.
Uncle Jed
August 24th, 2011
6:09 pm
This entry not only deals with the POTUS’s realtionship with GOD, but also the previous abstinence topic…
I wouldn’t hold Obama’s umbrella–HIS aim is improving. First the earthquake at DC and now the hurricane at the MV
Oh, and the abstinence connection… (see last sentence)
The Federal Emergency Management Agency is keeping a line open to President Obama and the First Family as they vacation on Martha’s Vineyard and Hurricane Irene — growing both in size and strength — appears destined to pelt the Bay State sometime Sunday.
An early POTUS pull out has not been ordered,,/i>
getalife
August 24th, 2011
6:12 pm
willard and a con will run and lose.
All those gop actions are for nothing.
I suggest they move a little to the left of rw radicals.
Jay
August 24th, 2011
6:12 pm
Left wing, put more succinctly, you have to dance with who brung ya.
If Romney gets elected, he’ll be beholden to those who put him there. And those folks have a view of the world, this country and basic reality that is 180 degrees opposite of my own.
And I’m sure they’d say the same about me!
Uncle Jed
August 24th, 2011
6:14 pm
Jm
August 24th, 2011
6:02 pm
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Website? That fella doesn’t even have a phone.
Uncle Jed
August 24th, 2011
6:15 pm
getalife
August 24th, 2011
6:12 pm
willard and a con will run and lose.
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Oh great, porncon is back.
I am heading out to the garden. Over and out.
Moderate Line
August 24th, 2011
6:16 pm
Perry has one major weakness if he goes up against Obama which is the unemployment rate in Texas. The countries unemployment rate is 9.1 and Texas is 8.4. Last month the unemployment for the US was 9.2 and Texas was 8.2. The closer those two numbers are the less he can brag about the Texas economy. You would have to go back to Jul 2010 before you would see an unemployment rate for the US worse than 12 months before. Texas has had two months were the unemployment was worse than 12 months ago plus 8 of the last 12 were worse than a year prior.
Allot can change between now and November but Texas is not exactly booming with 8.4% unemployment.
Fred
August 24th, 2011
6:16 pm
Jm
August 24th, 2011
4:29 pm
Oh what’d I miss? Who’s Dave?
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Unless I’m mistaken, he’s Dave Richardson, a former County commissioner form Forsyth County. At least from reading his garbage that’s who I think he is. Why it’s a big deal, I don’t know. Josef for years posted his complete name and own recently has dropped his last name. I don’t use my real name because it would embarrass my wife lol, but other than that I have no problem with folks knowing who I am. I’m just as much of an asshat in real life as I am on the blog. What you see here is really what you get in real life from me. Just a twisted individual with big opinions and a readiness to share them. A student of life on a never ending quest for knowledge and understanding who doesn’t suffer fools worth a damn and inherently dislikes frenchmen and baptists lol.
Still trying to catch up, I was told there are fireworks later in the blog and that Dave and @@ “storm off.” Trying to get to that point.
getalife
August 24th, 2011
6:19 pm
Later jed.
Fred,
It’s like a reality show.
josef
August 24th, 2011
6:19 pm
“…you have to dance with who brung ya.”
And that’s where President Obama may be in trouble…been twirling about with somebody else…
“And I’m sure they’d say the same about me!”
What sets Romney apart here, imo, is that he’d do it without calling you an unamerican traitor, communiss-socialiss…
GT
August 24th, 2011
6:20 pm
The thing I have noticed is it doesn’t matter what these Republican candidates say in the campaign, once this party has made it mind up about something there is no abortions, excuse the pun. I think about half of them can’t read or won’t and logic is witchcraft and Richard Petty, so what does one do to derail a deaf and dumb Ray Charles, who is lead to the voting booth and told what he is voting for. You wait for the main election don’t do anything that your educated voters would hold against you bad enough to not vote, because they will never vote for Perry the preacher, and then win a second term. Hope Mitt Romney doesn’t run he has a chance if the country gets mad enough at O but the rest just scare us.
Left wing management
August 24th, 2011
6:21 pm
If Romney gets elected, he’ll be beholden to those who put him there. And those folks have a view of the world, this country and basic reality that is 180 degrees opposite of my own.
Ok I see what you’re saying. But keep in mind that the “ones who put him there” are in fact the same in both cases, whether it’s Romney or Obama. And by that of course I mean big money and Wall Street. Unless what you mean is that Romney will have to cater to parts of the red-meat conservative base to get elected. And arguably that’s the difference between him and Obama. Obama got elected partly by cynically appealing to a desire for radical transformation not just in his liberal base but among independents as well. So that perhaps answers my own question about the asymmetry there. But in principle my point stands insofar as there’s no reason that Romney couldn’t pull the same trick as Obama did and woo certain parts of the coalition he needs without the slightest intention of fulfilling what he promises. And in that regard he could be seen as being potentially the flip side of Obama. Pure cynicism with crony capitalists pulling the strings.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
August 24th, 2011
6:24 pm
Well, looks like Mr. Mormon Underpants is done for. Except for the Mormons and a few RINOs. The way’s clear for Perry-Bachmann to win in November 2012. And I already got the campaign slogan:
Perry-Bachmann in 2012. They’ll pray your old gay ass straight.
Otherwise, I was kind of hoping that Bookman would of banned Dave R. instead of just warning him. Dave R. is like a old rattlesnake. You think you’ve taught him not to strike out at people, and just when you’re not expecting it, he sticks his fangs in your leg.
Have a good night everybody—except for the people that say nasty things about me. I hope they get a bad case of food poisoning and spend the whole night on the crapper. It could truly be said they’d be voiding a part of theirself.
Joe Mama
August 24th, 2011
6:29 pm
RC — “I hope they get a bad case of food poisoning and spend the whole night on the crapper.”
Ha! If you’re a member of the chosen few, you can crap STANDING UP.
josef
August 24th, 2011
6:29 pm
Fred…
I dropped the Nix part when I figured I was already on a first name basis hereabouts! A funny, I was being introduced to a new person at the Sunday morning Coffee Klatch I participate in and the first thing he said was, “Are you THE Josef Nix?” “Say what?” “The one from Bookman’s blog…” “Well, I’ll be d*mned” says I, “do you go there?” He smiled “so, you ARE!” So’s I asks him who he is. He wouldn’t say…says I’ll have to figure that out myself…small world…
carlosgvv
August 24th, 2011
6:30 pm
“high probabality of saying and doing stupid things”
The powers that be in The Republican Party know that a great many of their electorate are simple people who will not vote for anyone who shows a large amount of intelligence and learning. So, Bachmann and Perry saying stupid things is not necessarly bad in the eyes of Party big-wigs. Dumbed down candidates will appeal to dumbed down voters every time. Lets just hope that, at election time, those voters with a resonable amount of intelligence outnumber the simple and mindless.
josef
August 24th, 2011
6:33 pm
Duk-sha-nee U-ni-lu-tsv-hi
Spend the night in the crapper? I already told you, I ain’t going nowhere near your place of bidness…
Mighty Righty
August 24th, 2011
6:41 pm
I remember Jimmy Carter. Richard Nixon had all but killed the Republican party. Most of us believed no Republican would be elected again in our life times. But, Jimmy brought the party back from the dead. His administration was so inept, so out of touch, Republicans not only defeated him, but became the majority party and owned the white house for the next twelve years and 20 of the next twenty eight years. You Dem’s should try to understand with the empty suit now occupying the white house you have a worse president than Carter. The pro’s in your party are trying to figure out how to ease him out before next years election. They know he will not only lose but he will take control of the Senate with him and the Republicans will gain more seats in the house. Don’t think so? Why are Democrat House members refusing to hold town hall meetings? Their scared! The Republicans are not afraid? Make no mistake, there is a tsunami building out here to clean the remaining Democrats out of Washington D.C. The Democrats are famous for dumping losers. You may not even have a chance to vote for the Bamster.
Bruno
August 24th, 2011
6:43 pm
Jm and josef–The Redneck quia was lifted in its entirety from, of all places, the February Reader’s Digest. Hard to believe they’ve been reduced to 10 issues per year.
“Any recipes or input would be welcome.”
For the best moonshine, I recommend starting with some good 198 proof ethanol. Season to taste.
I had my first taste of official Southern moonshine in Cobb County in the early 80s. Someone had brought it down from North Georgia. Back in Jersey, we used to brew our own dandelion wine as teens.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gq8U8em5jM&feature=related
Just Another Anonymous One
August 24th, 2011
6:46 pm
I recall some comments from a professor regarding her use of messaging as a means of interacting with her students. She said that she was able to acquire more meaningful information — information that actually aided her in focusing the day’s lesson in areas that were most in need — when she posed questions to students via messaging. Apparently, the “anonymity” (in its many facets) afforded by the use of messaging actually encouraged more students to speak more openly, likely due to a lack of fear stemming from peer pressure.
wag
August 24th, 2011
6:47 pm
How’s the economy Jay? Obama’s 15 minutes are up. I dont care if mickey mouse runs against him, I will vote against him.
They BOTH suck
August 24th, 2011
6:50 pm
Might Righty
Did you unknowingly or knowingly post a half truth about town halls?
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/08/23/half-of-republicans-most-democrats-skipping-town-hall-meetings?s_cid=rss:washington-whispers:half-of-republicans-most-democrats-skipping-town-hall-meetings
Yes more Repubs are holding them, but less than half doesn’t add up to your assertion of not being afraid……….. does it?
AmVet
August 24th, 2011
6:51 pm
When the guy was at the top of his game and was one of the very best there was…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNSBrfjFKQw
Jay
August 24th, 2011
6:53 pm
I’d say the answer is two-fold, Paddy.
One, few people are paying attention to politics right now. There’s a reason that the networks don’t start new series until September, the same reason that the Bush administration infamously held off its push for the Iraq War until after Labor Day. People just aren’t paying attention.
Second, when the time comes, Obama will be able to get the attention he wants. it comes with the job.
They BOTH suck
August 24th, 2011
6:54 pm
Amvet
Great tune
How about this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPTdSYTLA10
Bruno
August 24th, 2011
6:55 pm
AmVet–I almost put that one up a few minutes ago. And in the strange coincidence department, the other night I went over to Walmart. When I came back out, a cream colored Infiniti Q45t had parked next to me, not a scratch on it. Too funny.
Mighty Righty
August 24th, 2011
6:56 pm
carlosgvv-I believe it is reasonable to assume that ability to earn money is a function of intelligence. Less educated, less intelligent people are poorer. This is not in dispute and is widely taught in our schools and colleges. Below is tangible proof of how intelligent voters voted in greater numbers for Mc Cain than for Obama.
Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in St. Paul, Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the last Presidential election:
Number of States won by: Obama: 19
McCain: 29
Square miles of land won by: Obama: 580,000
McCain: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by: Obama: 127 million
McCain: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Obama: 13.2
McCain: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: “In aggregate, the map of the territory McCain won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country.
Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low income tenements and living off various forms of government welfare…”
@@
August 24th, 2011
6:56 pm
My problem with him vs. Obama is that because he is reliant on his party for support, he has to pretend to believe and think things he doesn’t think or believe. And that won’t cease should he be elected.
Funny you should say that, jay. Obama did the very same thing. Bush-lite?
Anyhoo, like all candidates, Romney may pander to win his first term, but in his second, he can be his own man depending on the circumstances.
Obama showed his hand too early. Voters fear what HE’LL do with a second term. He should’ve listened to Rahm, but his base wouldn’t let him. They’ve done the poor guy in.
We’re a center-right country. No room for the uber left.
Fred:
@@ “storm off.”
Don’t make it out to be more than it was. I went elsewhere for a CHANGE!!!! This place gets duller ‘n dishwater at times.
Much ado about a newbie!!??!!
Bruno
August 24th, 2011
6:56 pm
TBS–In case you didn’t pick up on it, the music theme is alcohol, or whatever other mind-altering substance you may be into.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp6GQimL6D4
kayaker 71
August 24th, 2011
6:58 pm
Bruno,
The best I have had recently came from my wife’s brother who lives in a hollar in Eastern Tennessee. He calls it apple pie delight. Comes in quart fruit jars. About 80 proof. Smoothest that I have ever had.
They BOTH suck
August 24th, 2011
6:59 pm
Might Righty
Great stat but McCain LOST……… He and Palin were drummed
Period………. Get over it.. You will have another chance next year
Sq miles means nothing……………. 8 people live in Wyoming, North and South Dakota combined
Mighty Righty
August 24th, 2011
7:00 pm
They BOTH suck
August 24th, 2011
6:50 pm
You merelyconfirmed my statement.
Sux Limbow
August 24th, 2011
7:00 pm
What’s wrong with Audi? Did you know that Ayrton Senna was driving one as his personal car circa 1994? (I’m in a VW GTI MKV myself.)
They BOTH suck
August 24th, 2011
7:00 pm
Bruno
My bad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7v0V58V3Uw
Jm
August 24th, 2011
7:02 pm
Steve jobs retired….
AmVet
August 24th, 2011
7:03 pm
Both, I always loved that entire Don’t Shoot Me as well as Tumbleweed Connection.
Another drop dead beauty of his…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyBJoj1zK_4&feature=related
And to B’s point, booze, botanicals and other such things were a big part of the equation back then…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOrNXZ7huno
Bruno
August 24th, 2011
7:06 pm
One, few people are paying attention to politics right now.
And what good would it do anyway?? Obamacare will be upon us in just a few short years, and we’ll be ruined. Our last hope is that there may be a few folks with some common sense on the Supreme Court who will restore the integrity of the Commerce Clause. Not choosing to participate in an industry should remain a right.
From an AJC story a few minutes ago, “Nearly one of every 10 midsized or big employers expects to stop offering health coverage to workers after insurance exchanges begin operating in 2014 as part of President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul, according to a survey by a major benefits consultant.”
http://www.ajc.com/business/survey-overhaul-may-push-1136755.html
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carlosgvv
August 24th, 2011
7:06 pm
Mighty Righty – “ability to earn money is a function of intelligence”
You would think that would be true. In politics, however, earning power does not always translate into common sense. It seems a majority of Republicans are born again far right Christians, don’t believe in evolution, don’t believe that global warming is man made and(some of them) believe that homosexuality can by cured by Christian prayer. They run from science like the plague. I don’t want another George W. Bush, whose belief system is indicated in the above, in the White House. Do you?
Bruno
August 24th, 2011
7:09 pm
He calls it apple pie delight. Comes in quart fruit jars. About 80 proof. Smoothest that I have ever had.
Not sure, but I think I met that guy on a rafting trip near Smith Mountain Lake, VA a couple of years ago. He was staying in an RV with his current wife and two of his ex-wives. He insisted I drink some, even after I begged off a few times. That him??
Jay
August 24th, 2011
7:10 pm
Mighty Righty, that is a mighty load of baloney right there.
Five of the states carried by McCain are owned not by individual taxpayers but largely by the federal government — Idaho, 50 percent; Utah, 57 percent, etc.
According to exit polls, Obama carried those with incomes of $200K and above by 52-46. He carried those with post-grad degrees by 58-40, and those with college degrees by 50-48.
And that bit about “low-income tenements,” etc. Oh yeah, that’s real classic and real classy. As if a person’s worth or value could be measured by his or her paycheck or mailing address.
Mighty Righty
August 24th, 2011
7:11 pm
They BOTH suck
August 24th, 2011
6:59 pm
Dream on. Did you miss the part about most of Obama voters not being able to support themselves? The question being answered was regarding intelligence. The facts don’t lie.
AmVet
August 24th, 2011
7:12 pm
“ability to earn money is a function of intelligence”
Yep, just ask Lindsay Lohan and Michael Vick…
The real Lindsey…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naAWX6OsHVI
Jm
August 24th, 2011
7:13 pm
Speaking of western states. Somewhere in the chaos of budget and deficit battles republicans jammed in a law opening up semi-endangered wolves to hunting again, on lands owned by the federal government. Which is a bit ridiculous in my mind.
One can’t be a one issue voter though.
Fred
August 24th, 2011
7:14 pm
Bruno
August 24th, 2011
5:36 pm
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LOL that was funny. And I STILL can’t get caught up tonight. I get 3 minutes of reading time then I get interrupted. And all I want to do is finish this and get back to my game……….. Well and have my wife go get me some beer. Fell off the wagon yesterday and don’t want to climb back on til tomorrow………..
Jm
August 24th, 2011
7:14 pm
Wonder how many months Jobs has left.
Sad.
Schrodingers cat
August 24th, 2011
7:15 pm
no white smoke yet…..
Jay
August 24th, 2011
7:16 pm
I just have to shake my head at the thesis behind Mighty Righty’s post. This nation was founded on the rejection of aristocracy and a repudiation of the notion that the rich and powerful were inherently better than the rest of us. It assumed, to borrow a phrase, that “all men are created equal.”
Yet these days to defend that notion gets you dismissed as a socialist. Amazing.
They BOTH suck
August 24th, 2011
7:16 pm
Righty
Appears your source was slightly selective in how he diced his stats
Just remember………. The Figures do not lie…….. but LIARS figure
josef
August 24th, 2011
7:16 pm
Best moonshine I ever had was on the trip back home from the Northwest…stopped in Poteau to visit the Rez folks…Tom had some he had made…smooth as silk and kicka33 would be an understatement…woke up the next morning in the pasture with a black angus heifer giving me a good morning smooch…
Jay
August 24th, 2011
7:18 pm
Right jm. And having worked on public-lands issues in both Nevada and Washington state, watch those “independent” ranchers out there get out all bent out of shape at the thought that they should pay market rates, rather than deeply reduced rates, for the right to graze their cattle and sheep on federal land.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 24th, 2011
7:21 pm
Obamacare will be upon us in just a few short years, and we’ll be ruined.
Feinting couch, aisle 6…..
Schrodingers cat
August 24th, 2011
7:21 pm
As to the socialist thing…ever been to Denmark?…now that’s socialism…we are eons behind them
Jm
August 24th, 2011
7:21 pm
Jay 7:18 yep more special interest subsidies, I know
Jay if u r anti aristocracy fight for higher estate taxes, not income taxes necessarily IMO
Joe the Plutocrat
August 24th, 2011
7:21 pm
Mighty Righty, you should have been on McCain’s team because I think the only reason he picked Palin as a running mate was to get all that acreage in Alaska. Prof Olson needs to lay off the “hooch”. And did I read correctly, he teaches at a law school?
Mighty Righty
August 24th, 2011
7:22 pm
Jay
August 24th, 2011
7:10 pm
Are you saying welefare recipients and low wage earners are more intelligent than higher wage earners that earn enough to pay taxes? I didn’t think so. My post was in answer to a claim that Democrats are smarter than Republicans which is demonstrably false. The proof is indisputable. My answer had nothing to do with self or individual worth. Surely you don’t accept an exit poll as accurate. “How much do you make? Oh around a million dollars a year.” Right. I’ll bet there weren’t any exit polls in the Ghetto. Further, there is nothing in my post that is false or made up. Just the facts man. If the media wants to pretend Democrats are smart they had better come up with something other than elections to prove it.
Jay
August 24th, 2011
7:23 pm
And don’t even get me started on how the mining companies rape the taxpayer, paying a tiny fraction of the cost for mining rights on public lands that they would have to pay private landowners.
josef
August 24th, 2011
7:25 pm
JAY
I’m going to have to parse and split hairs here…the country was founded on a rejection of TITLED aristocracy…it did not reject aristocracy per se…property ownership required for the franchise, institutionalized slavery, “welcome to Boston, home of the bean and cod, where the Cabots speak only to the Lowells and the Lowell’s speak only to G-d…” However, in doing away with the titled aspect it did open that aristocracy to the upwardly mobile and motivated of the right skin hue…the “rise of the common man” was a product of Jacksonian Democracy…the idealism of “all men are created equal” is and has been a work in progress—you know DADT/DOMA etc.
Now, the second comment on the West and cattle rights…ain’t that the truth!
robert
August 24th, 2011
7:26 pm
What about RON PAUL? The media never seems to cover him. He is the only guy that would beat Obama with no problem. The three stooges( Mitt Romeny Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry) are terrible choice’s for the Republican ticket
Fred
August 24th, 2011
7:26 pm
Left wing management
August 24th, 2011
6:01 pm
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After reading your 5:40 and your 5:44 I was thinking that all you needed was one more to make a hat trick. Lo and behold, there it is.
Lucifer
August 24th, 2011
7:26 pm
Truth is, Obama will win re-election, regardless of the employment numbers and economy. He’s a know quantity. And, quite frankly, the GOP has nothing but a cast of chuckleheads to go up against him. My, my, the depths to which the once mighty have fallen.
Jm
August 24th, 2011
7:28 pm
Jay agreed. They should have to pay market rates like everyone else. Federal ranching fees are 1/10th of private grazing fees
I’m against all subsidy BS these days. Ethanol, farming, ridiculous tax breaks, solar and wind tax breaks, mortgage interest deduction health care tax exemption
The tax code and our government are a mess. I’d prefer a TR but I’ll take Romney just fine
Joe the Plutocrat
August 24th, 2011
7:28 pm
Mighty Righty, you are aware that there is no “intelligence test” required to vote in the United States of America, correct? And you’ve obviously taken into account the NFL, NBA, MLB (those who ARE American citizens). Does it bother you that dudes who can barely read at 8th grade level will earn more in 1 year than you will earn in 10 lifetimes?
Mighty Righty
August 24th, 2011
7:28 pm
Jay
August 24th, 2011
7:16 pm
Our founders were all educated men who worked or were self employed. There were no slackers drawing government funds.
F. Sinkwich
August 24th, 2011
7:29 pm
“The Obama campaign team is asking Texans to share complaints about Gov. Rick Perry, and compiling the critiques for possible use in Perry-bashing ads and other material – a sure sign the president’s advisers are taking no chances.”
Oh, good. Obama is trolling for knee-jerk, weep-easy, bleeding heart, dyed in the wool socialists (mostly from Austin, no doubt) to pen letters-to-the-editor screeds to send to local newspapers across the country beginning with the sentence:
“I’m a life-long Texas resident and die-hard conservative, but let me tell you the truth about Perry…”
No doubt Jay and and the rest of the lib ilk around here will quote them extensively.
Doggone/GA
August 24th, 2011
7:29 pm
“And don’t even get me started on how the mining companies rape the taxpayer”
The way I see it…the taxpayer is going to get it either way. If the mining companies had to pay the going rate, they’d just tack it onto the cost of their product and we’d still be paying for it in the cost of the finished goods.
Jay
August 24th, 2011
7:29 pm
Josef, I’d split your split hair to point out that to the common people, the Revolution was indeed about a rejection of the powerful having a right to lord it over them. It simply took some time for the power shift implied in the Declaration to take hold.
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
August 24th, 2011
7:30 pm
You are kind of wasting your time here Jay, but that’s OK. Remember, if you are discussing Bugs Bunny vs. Elmer Fudd vs. Jimmy Durante for the Republican nomination, Emperor Nero loses.
Fred
August 24th, 2011
7:30 pm
Kamchak
August 24th, 2011
6:02 pm
I will stick to small batches and not offer it for sale…
Doesn’t matter. It remains illegal to produce hard liquor without a license.
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You sure about that? I think they changed that law. It’s all in the home brewer thing……..
Kamchak
August 24th, 2011
7:31 pm
What about RON PAUL?
You mean the guy polling at 13%?
The media never seems to cover him.
Yeah, because he’s only polling at 13%.
He is the only guy that would beat Obama with no problem.
Not if he’s just polling at 13%.
F. Sinkwich
August 24th, 2011
7:32 pm
“What about RON PAUL? The media never seems to cover him.”
That’s because he comes across as a crotchety old man with the charisma of a tree stump, Robert.
Plus his supporters are mostly looney goofballs.
Left wing management
August 24th, 2011
7:32 pm
Fred: “After reading your 5:40 and your 5:44 I was thinking that all you needed was one more to make a hat trick. Lo and behold, there it is.”
Which one of my finely crafted steaming patties are you referring to? I was on quite a roll ya know …
Mighty Righty
August 24th, 2011
7:33 pm
Joe the Plutocrat
August 24th, 2011
7:28 pm
First you have no idea what I earn. Second I have no problem with anyone making as much money as they can legally make. How much people earn is a problem for your side of the isle, not mine. It is the left that suffer from wealth envy and expect the producers to take care of them.
Kamchak
August 24th, 2011
7:33 pm
Fred
Brewing is one thing, distilling is a whole ‘nuther kettle of mash.
robert
August 24th, 2011
7:33 pm
Obama in statistical dead heat with Mitt Romney, Rick Perry, Ron Paul and Michele Bachmann
Here is the link………………….where the hell did YOU get your 13%?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20095899-503544.html
Schrodingers cat
August 24th, 2011
7:34 pm
Fred
I thought the same thing…until I realized the caveat …beer ain’t hard liquor…
Joe the Plutocrat
August 24th, 2011
7:35 pm
JB, I have side with josef. I think the Founding Fathers were themselves an aristocracy that simply did not want to be beholden to a monarchy. I think they did their homework in terms of a Magna Carta ver 2.0, but somehow what looked good on paper has ended up being more plutocracy/oligarchy (the very essence of aristocracy) in representaitve democracy’s clothing. I have always wondered if the Constituion was truly a “revolutionary document” or the history’s greatest “three card Monte”
Hook, Line, and Sinker
August 24th, 2011
7:35 pm
Mighty Righty
August 24th, 2011
6:56 pm
That’s the problem with the cons — they believe anything that there christian, moral, republican brethern sends them in a forwarded email. The professor denies it, and the college name isn’t even spelled right. What you post is a BIG FAT LIE.
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/01/unreported-stats/
Nice try though.
Rightwing Troll
August 24th, 2011
7:35 pm
“You hit the nail on the head. Perry terrifies the left.”
He’s so much like W, he should terrify all of us… Any of you here claiming disdain for the Bush years can’t possibly be for this guy, we’ve been there, done that, even if our current issues are 100% Obama’s fault, as some of you here claim, it was Bush that laid the foundation…
Schrodingers cat
August 24th, 2011
7:35 pm
and…nice catch Rubio (sp?)
Jm
August 24th, 2011
7:36 pm
I’m in favor of people being able to keep the capital they earn over the lives, to reinvest on the premise that (on average) they are better at earning and allocating capital (celebrities exempted).
No evidence points to subsequent generations having much success at allocating capital earned by their elders. Ergo, I’m fine with a higher estate tax on estates over a certain size that aren’t donated to a non-profit
Bruno
August 24th, 2011
7:36 pm
He’s a know quantity.
And Obama was a “known quantity” prior to the 2012 election?? A newly-elected freshman Senator from Illinois??
Maybe just my political bias talking, but I think now that Obama truly IS a “known quantity”, it will work against him, not for him. The far left liberal base has lost faith in him, the independents are more than wary, and the right wingers are only more energized. I will agree with your other point about the Republican chuckleheads. No strong candidates yet.
robert
August 24th, 2011
7:37 pm
Yes……F. Sinkwich……….Paul has a very flat charisma style to him……….BUT…..some of ideas are really good. Fact is we have a President that is a very smooth talker, great charisma, but dosen’t seem to know what he is doing
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They BOTH suck
August 24th, 2011
7:38 pm
Mighty Righty or is that Tighty Whities
Do some of your fellow conservatives on this board a favor………… STOP POSTING
Several more than hold their own with their views on the issues……………. You my friend………. another story to say the least
Joe the Plutocrat
August 24th, 2011
7:39 pm
Mighty Righty (or should I say; Warren Buffet?), did you, or did you not post this at 7:22 PM?
“Are you saying welefare recipients and low wage earners are more intelligent than higher wage earners that earn enough to pay taxes?” No my friend, it was YOU who implied that income is related to intelligence, and I could give a rat’s rear end what you make. In fact, if you are no a “low wage earner” or “on welfare” you lack of demonstrated intelligence in posting ridiculous information is going to throw off your bell curve theory
josef
August 24th, 2011
7:39 pm
JAY
I would agree with you up to a point…at the risk of coming off “uppity” here, my own family, who were revolutionaries, dropped the de and d’ at the time of the Revolution, but gave up nothing of their previous priviledge and, yes, continued all the way up to the present to “lord” it over…just watch as the bourgeois GOP defenders come in here daily promoting economic policies that are in their own worst interests, hoping to be let in the drawing room…as for the common man today, yes, he has the vote, but it is a vote for which of the “aristocratic” elite’s candidates promises the best of bread and circuses…
Kamchak
August 24th, 2011
7:44 pm
….where the hell did YOU get your 13%?
Didn’t read Jay’s piece, didja?
Second word of the fourth paragraph you’ll see the word Gallup lit up in blue. Place your cursor over the blue words and left click.
See, that wasn’t so hard, was it?
Bruno
August 24th, 2011
7:44 pm
I have always wondered if the Constituion was truly a “revolutionary document” or the history’s greatest “three card Monte”
Joe–I think the beauty of the document lies in the fact that we’ve been able to grow toward the ideals laid out in the Constitution over time. Of course, sometimes we’ve grown past the original intention in some frightening ways. “Public use” was changed to “public good” in the SCOTUS eminent domain case a few years ago. And now we have a panel of judges who have decided that non-participation in an industry still falls under the Commerce Clause. Scary stuff.
robert
August 24th, 2011
7:44 pm
Kamchak…………What’s wrong with Ron Paul? Too much of an ACTUAL fiscal conservative for you?
Oh great, we elect presidents based on looks?
Only in the phony world of ultra conservative spin-is-all-we-have-no-substance.
Ron Paul has more consistency, a form of integrity, than every other GOP candidate combined
josef
August 24th, 2011
7:45 pm
JOE PLUTOCRAT
Funny you should use the term “greatest three card monte…” I’ve often wondered that myself, considering who it was who played such instrumental roles in its framing…it has been, however, an amazingly flexible document which has lent itself to an ever widening PERSONAL freedom and franchise…
Fred
August 24th, 2011
7:46 pm
josef
August 24th, 2011
6:29 pm
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LOL Josef, one night I googled you and found out what school you work in, (you may have said, I don’t remember, nor do I remember at this time the school). One day I WILL show up there to talk to you lol. I’ll come at lunch and bring some Gumbo………..(okra based). Or maybe Jay will get off his ass or get the legal department of the AJC off THEIR asses and hold that blog party he dreams about and I can meet you there. That leftist place Manuel’s seems like the most likely place, although the quality of food has gone down since their good cook left several years ago…………
josef
August 24th, 2011
7:47 pm
“Oh great, we elect presidents based on looks?”
We sure did in the election of 1960…
Bruno
August 24th, 2011
7:47 pm
priviledge
josef– No “d” in privilege.
Signed, a lowly plebe with no family connections.
Jay
August 24th, 2011
7:47 pm
I agree with that regarding many of the Founders, Joe, but ….
To swing the populi to their side, the American aristocracy embraced the anti-aristocratic notions of Thomas Paine and others, incorporating that rhetoric into our founding documents and certainly into the war propaganda of the era. And the people, having won the war, started to demand that the rhetoric be made reality.
For example, existing rules about limiting the vote to those with property began to disappear state by state pretty quickly. Now you’ve got people implying that it ought to be reinstituted in some form or fashion ….