Rick Perry, the GOP’s new BMOC; Mitt Romney, not so much

Mitt Romney is playing the long game in his bid for the GOP presidential nomination, which is pretty smart for a couple of reasons:

1.) His top two challengers, Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry, both have high probability of doing and saying stupid things that would cause their self-destruction.

2.) He really has no other choice. He knows he’s not the hot date that Republican primary voters dream about as their escort to the big dance. He just hopes to be the steady, nerdish, boring guy — the one who shows up driving his mother’s Audi — that they’ll settle for once other options are no longer available.

Two new polls demonstrate the wisdom and necessity of that approach. Gallup, for example, reports that 29 percent of Republicans now favor Perry as their party’s nominee. Romney, who drew 27 percent as recently as June, has fallen back to 17 percent. Ron Paul, at 13 percent, and Bachmann, at 10 percent, are the only other two in double digits. (Herman Cain, a previous flavor of the month, has declined to 4 percent.)

A poll by Public Policy Polling produces a parallel prognostication, putting Perry at 33 percent. Romney draws 20 percent and Bachmann 16 percent. You have to think that as Bachmann fades, most of her hard-core tea-party support will gravitate to the man from Texas, not the man from Massachusetts.

So patience, Mitt, patience. Be the Audi-driving tortoise, not the Texas jackrabbit.

838 comments Add your comment

Thulsa Doom

August 24th, 2011
3:45 pm

josef

August 24th, 2011
3:46 pm

“So patience, Mitt, patience”

Patience is a virtue and these are politicians we’re talking about….

AmVet

August 24th, 2011
3:46 pm

“…both have high probability of doing and saying stupid things that would cause their self-destruction.”

Almost a certain bet…

Tommy Maddox

August 24th, 2011
3:47 pm

You sure have been dogging out Perry. He’s obviously someone that bothers the Left.

Adam

August 24th, 2011
3:49 pm

Not sure how I feel about the nerdy boy reference….

Thulsa Doom

August 24th, 2011
3:49 pm

Ha! The Doom is actually first to post on a Bookman blog. Will wonders never cease.

Bachman will fade. Her whiny arse voice nauseates and perturbs me. I think it will be Romney. Perry is definitely more of the conservative Christian type that wears his religion on his sleeve so the media will go after him as if he’s mujahadeen. They will do everything they can to savage the man.

Adam

August 24th, 2011
3:50 pm

You can tell who liberals fear by….

oh crap Tommy Maddox beat me to it.

Thulsa Doom

August 24th, 2011
3:51 pm

Tommy Maddox,

You hit the nail on the head. Perry terrifies the left.

Adam

August 24th, 2011
3:51 pm

How about, IT’S ALL OBAMA’S FAULT. Did I beat everyone to that one?

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 24th, 2011
3:54 pm

The closer it gets to primary season, and the more it looks as if Perry might be the one, the more the media will savage him and flip the numbers.

But if Hope & Downgrade ™ can’t do anything to tout his OWN record (and good luck with THAT), arguing that the other guy could be worse is usually not a winning strategy.

Paul

August 24th, 2011
3:54 pm

“His top two challengers, Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry, both have high probability of doing and saying stupid things”

That’s not a prediction, it’s already happened.

“that would cause their self-destruction.”

It’s an additive thing. Not just one statement, but a culmination until the breaking point hits. Not for the hardcore base – they don’t care about such stuff. But the bulk who’ll sway the nomination? I hope so.

“Two new polls demonstrate the wisdom and necessity of that approach.”

So Romney plays chess, gaming out scenarios a few moves into the future. Okay, maybe I’ll rethink this.

Joe the Plutocrat

August 24th, 2011
3:54 pm

I still think the GOP has a card up its sleeve. Both Perry and Bachman are of value in terms of leaving no ideological stone unturned, but let’s be honest, neithert will ever come close to POTUS. speaking of Bachman, I think she needs to start humming some Georgia Satellites; “…that’s when she told me a story about free milk and a cow and said no huggy, no kissie, ’til I get a wedding vow…” And by this I mean, the GOP ain’t gonna “buy” her when she’s giving milk for free. Or, as Mark Twain advised; “…you don’t pay a prostitute for sex; you pay her to leave when you’re done…” And funny thing is; I just don’t see Mitt (Morman, healthcare) mounting a “base-driven” campaign. This is what fascinates me about politics; we keep hearing about the “top 2%) – well that’s 6 million people, right? even if they all voted GOP (and off course with Soros and Buffett, it’s only 5,999,998; and you ain’t gonna win with that number, so they have to scrape the bottom of the intellectual barrel.

Thulsa Doom

August 24th, 2011
3:55 pm

josef,

I was looking at the previous blog. The guy who thinks its cool to denigrate the one particular group of people left that its ok to make bigoted comments about- poor southern white people aka rednecks, says he can’t wait till you post this afternoon. He’s comin after ya. Lock and load your blog ammo josef.

Adam

August 24th, 2011
3:55 pm

Oh! I beat Dave by 3 minutes on blaming Obama. Score!

Adam

August 24th, 2011
3:56 pm

But this:

Dave R says: arguing that the other guy could be worse is usually not a winning strategy.

is certainly true.

Granny Godzilla

August 24th, 2011
3:56 pm

Perry 2012

oh please oh please oh please

just cuz he skeers me.

arnold

August 24th, 2011
3:56 pm

Thulsa Doom

August 24th, 2011
3:49 pm

“Perry is definitely more of the conservative Christian type that wears his religion on his sleeve”

I think this is what will sink him. He’ll also take care of the rest on his own.

John Birch

August 24th, 2011
3:57 pm

Any of the four would easily crush Obama if the election were tomorrow.

godless heathen

August 24th, 2011
3:57 pm

over/under 25 posts before we are reminded that Perry = Bush.
I say under.

@@

August 24th, 2011
3:58 pm

Obama had some gaffes of his own early on.

Romney will be offering his detailed economic plan September 6th. When’s Obama’s “outline” (D. Plouffe) due?

Thulsa Doom

August 24th, 2011
3:58 pm

Joe the Plutocrat,

We cons do have a card up our sleeve. I’ve posited numerous times that we could run Elmer Fudd and beat the disaster taking place in the White House. Elmer is funny, lovable, and doesn’t hate on anyone. And he’s smarter than the current occupant. Fudd aint no dud for president. Go Elmer! Go Elmer!

Adam

August 24th, 2011
3:58 pm

John Birch: Polls within the margin of error are hardly crushing.

Adam

August 24th, 2011
3:59 pm

@@: My understanding is that it was probably going to be on the same day.

stands for decibels

August 24th, 2011
3:59 pm

That’s supposed to stand for “Besotted Maniac Out Campaigning”, yes?

godless heathen

August 24th, 2011
4:00 pm

I think the President’s handlers have already floated the “Things could have been worse.” campaign theme. It didn’t poll well, but they might try it again after the convention.

Adam

August 24th, 2011
4:00 pm

stands: Interesting. How long did it take to come up with that one? :lol:

stands for decibels

August 24th, 2011
4:00 pm

oh please oh please oh please

you weren’t trying on clothes while you typed that, were you?

Thulsa Doom

August 24th, 2011
4:00 pm

godless heaven,

I’ll take the under and if I lose I’ll double up and say the tea party hate card gets played 17.5 times in the first 100 posts. I threw in the half point because some of the attempts to denigrate the tea party are so lame that they only warrant a half semblence of a coherent post.

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 24th, 2011
4:01 pm

And if my yappy little tea-cup poodle could READ, he’d see that I never blamed Hope & Downgrade ™ for anything in this thread.

But that would require reading skills vs. mistaken preconceived notions on his part.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 24th, 2011
4:01 pm

Wait until Palin declares!

josef

August 24th, 2011
4:01 pm

THULSA

That old queen sure got her girdle in a wad last night… :-)

Thulsa Doom

August 24th, 2011
4:01 pm

heathen not heaven.

Manchurian-Kenyan Candidate

August 24th, 2011
4:02 pm

the theme of 2012 election will be: Obama versus……..anybody NOT named Obama!!

I will end every post with…..”Hope and Change……is NOT MY FAULT!!”

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 24th, 2011
4:02 pm

Dave is back to his name calling from earlier today… how surprising. [yawn]

Adam

August 24th, 2011
4:02 pm

Dave R caught me in a msitake. Oh well. Guess that makes me incapable of reading at all times and incapable of rational thought at all times, etc etc.

Dusty

August 24th, 2011
4:02 pm

So Bookman tells Mitt, “Be the audi-driving tortoise, not the Texas jackrabbit.”. Ha!

Give me a Texas jackrabbit anytime over a Chicago jackass.

No disrespect, of course. Just a little word play in the Bookman manner.

Jay

August 24th, 2011
4:03 pm

That’s pretty funny, Tommy. I could show you reader posts using that identical language in response to pieces I wrote earlier on Donald Trump, Herman Cain and Michele Bachmann, all of whom were supposedly big threats to Obama, all of whom I supposedly criticized because I feared they would beat him.

As things have turned out, not so much.

Joe the Plutocrat

August 24th, 2011
4:04 pm

godless h, there are many similarities (Texas, low IQ, cowboy posturing), and I have played the 2.0 card as well, but I think for all his shortcomings, Bush had the pedigree; the family auro. I mean; Yale and Harvard kinda trumps Texas A&M, and with the Bush family comes the oligarch and plutocrat bona fides. IF the GOP leadership believes they can ‘win” with Perry, they’ll back him, but right now his value is more as a fundraiser and a tomato thrower. ditto Bachman, she can spout all the $2/gallon nonsense she likes because she’s a stalking horse and when the time comes (convention), she’ll get her narcissistic fix and throw her support beyond whomever she is told (always the obidient Christian wife). if Perry gets traction, he’ll get the backing of the big hitters, then he gets more traction, but we’re early, and from what I hear, he’s gonna flame out.

Jay

August 24th, 2011
4:04 pm

“if my yappy little tea-cup poodle could READ…”

Dave R., show respect or leave. You know the drill by now.

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 24th, 2011
4:04 pm

“Dave R caught me in a msitake. Oh well. Guess that makes me incapable of reading at all times and incapable of rational thought at all times, etc etc.”

If you’d make less mistakes I could chalk them up to an occasional one. That you do so almost constantly points to a serious deficiency in reading comprehension and lack of objectivity.

Manchurian-Kenyan Candidate

August 24th, 2011
4:04 pm

Thulsa…..Love it!!!

How about….Fudd’s a Stud!!

Thulsa Doom

August 24th, 2011
4:05 pm

josef,

Yeah but I think you pegged him for what he is. He’s got all kinda hatin for ya today. I just went back a little while ago and looked up a lot of comments and it looks like that may a been the first and only thing he posted. He musta been mad all night and all day long thinking about it. Looks like you own a little piece of real estate inside his head. It aint much though given his limited cerebral capacity, kinda on the microscopic or even subatomic level, but you own a piece nonetheless.

josef

August 24th, 2011
4:07 pm

“…he’s gonna flame out.”

Okay, Imam, can I cheap shot that one! Abstinance is getting the best of me here… :-)

Kamchak

August 24th, 2011
4:07 pm

over/under 25 posts 2 pages before we are reminded that Perry = Bush Obama = socialist.
I say under.

Tommy Maddox

August 24th, 2011
4:07 pm

Well Jay, I was just noticing three of your last five articles revolved around Perry.

Granny Godzilla

August 24th, 2011
4:08 pm

sfd

Perry is HOT….but he will never be President.

Never.

Thulsa Doom

August 24th, 2011
4:08 pm

Fudds a Studd- the new conservative battle anthem! Dang. Why couldn’t I think of that. Nice one. The liberal line against Perry will be Perry is scary. For Romney it would be Romney is even worse than obamney. If you can’t run on Obama’s accomplishments, or lack thereof, then their only hope is a monstrous negative campaign against Romney, Perry, and yes- possibly even the beloved Fudd.

Kamchak

August 24th, 2011
4:09 pm

Tommy Maddox

August 24th, 2011
4:09 pm

Obama’s a flop – and soon he’ll be an Ex.

Adam

August 24th, 2011
4:09 pm

Kamchak: Nah the socialist thing is old and tired. But we did already have a swipe at Obama not using his name on this page. That metric is probably really easy, if there are any 50 posts separating the next “renaming” of Obama as hate/rhetoric, that’s pretty rare.

Joe the Plutocrat

August 24th, 2011
4:10 pm

Thulsa, negative on Fudd. he doesn’t have broad GOP base appeal. The GOP needs to conscript Yosemite Sam, ya dern varmint!

Thulsa Doom

August 24th, 2011
4:10 pm

granny godzilla,

Well if Perry can’t be pres maybe he can be your pool cabana boy!

Citizen of the World

August 24th, 2011
4:10 pm

Perry scares me about like any willfully ignorant, shamelessly pandering political candidate scares me. The fact that anyone would consider voting for him as President of the United States — that scares me even more.

Manchurian-Kenyan Candidate

August 24th, 2011
4:11 pm

Jay, I just bought a new Audi…..pretty effin’ fast…..hardly a tortoise

“Hope and Change……is NOT My Fault!!”

Thulsa Doom

August 24th, 2011
4:11 pm

Joe the Plutocrat,

Yosemite sam could be the VP. He would be the attack dog for the lovable Fudd and say the mean spirited attack stuff that needs to be said. He’ll git after them varmints.

Jm

August 24th, 2011
4:11 pm

I’ll take Romney any day of the week over Obama.

I just hope he has learned from obamacare and hi Massachusetts plan that our country is inclined to go another direction.

If I have to deal with Obama for 4 more years because Perry is the nominee and loses to Obama, I will probably need one of those fainting chairs

Joe the Plutocrat

August 24th, 2011
4:12 pm

josef, I mean flame out, as in “not fabulous”

Adam

August 24th, 2011
4:13 pm

Jm: If I have to deal with Obama for 4 more years because Perry is the nominee and loses to Obama, I will probably need one of those fainting chairs

I’m going to think up a good dotcom for that very premise Jm!

josef

August 24th, 2011
4:14 pm

Jm

Good, you’re here. Caught that Levy comment…which ones? The Jacob Clavius ones? My limited contact with them was most pleasant…they were very, very helpful…

Kamchak

August 24th, 2011
4:14 pm

Kamchak: Nah the socialist thing is old and tired.

Sez you.

Two and a half years into this administration and the “Obama iz a socialist” is still going strong.

md

August 24th, 2011
4:14 pm

Romney, for the most part is the moderate………..and I’m guessing he appeals more to left leaning r’s and right leaning independents……………….

The extremists from both sides will cancel each other out……………

I’d guess it would be Romney vs Obama……….and if the economy still sucks, the incumbent gets the boot………….

Paul

August 24th, 2011
4:14 pm

sfd

“you weren’t trying on clothes while you typed that, were you?”

I gotta stop reading your quips while I’m on the phone….

Adam

August 24th, 2011
4:15 pm

Kamchak: I still think the Obama renaming gets more traction.

pogo

August 24th, 2011
4:15 pm

And basically Obama isn’t exactly the “hot date” for anyone nowadays, now is he Jay? OK, maybe for his gargantuan wife but other than that…. As evidenced by the time you are spending on the subject, your seemingly overwhelming concern for whomever we conservatives (or cons, if you will) will ultimately pick as our candidate is quite moving though. We deeply appreciate the “vetting” that you in the media are giving the conservative candidates but strangely, never had the gonads to subject Obama to in 2008. And look at what we wound up with.

Joe the Plutocrat

August 24th, 2011
4:16 pm

Thulsa, no. Foghorn Leghorn is the VP; it’s the Southern strategy! Fudd is too timid and my guess is; he’d be beholden to the teleprompter. nope, Yosemite Sam. Fudd is one dimensional (hunter), Sam has a broader demographic appeal.

Jay

August 24th, 2011
4:16 pm

“Yosemite sam could be the VP. He would be the attack dog for the lovable Fudd and say the mean spirited attack stuff that needs to be said. He’ll git after them varmints.”

Thanks to the 22nd Amendment, Thulsa, Bush/Cheney aren’t eligible.

Adam

August 24th, 2011
4:16 pm

md: The extremists from both sides will cancel each other out

Who are the extremists on the left? Just asking.

AmVet

August 24th, 2011
4:16 pm

Regarding you long shot prognosticators, the casinos in Biloxi and Tunica must love watching you guys walk up to the place. (Presuming you big rollers never make it to Vegas or AC!)

The Uppity Muslim juggernaut is still a prohibitive favorite at every wagering establishment I’ve checked.

But play those dark horses (Not a slur against Herman “NO MUSLIMS!” Cain.) if you want. Somebody has to help pay to build those temples of sin…

josef

August 24th, 2011
4:16 pm

PLUTOCRAT

Yeah, I know, but how could I resist given the jibe at me from downstairs…and it seems some of the wimminfolks DO think he’s fabulous…kinda makes me wonder what it is women want in a man…

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 24th, 2011
4:17 pm

his gargantuan wife

When all else fails, take the cheap shot at the wife.

Thulsa Doom

August 24th, 2011
4:17 pm

Adam

August 24th, 2011
4:02 pm
Dave R caught me in a msitake. Oh well. Guess that makes me incapable of reading at all times and incapable of rational thought at all times, etc etc.

Adam,

You’re only right on 2 of those points.

Just kidding- couldn’t resist.

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 24th, 2011
4:18 pm

Respect is EARNED, Jay.

It is earned by using at least a modicum of objectivity when responding to posts. It is earned when not using preconceived notions when attempting to classify someone’s beliefs into one camp or another without knowing a damned thing about that person. It is earned by not wordsmithing, parsing or projecting someone’s thoughts in order to try to make an opposing argument.

Your plea for “respect” would mean so much more if people who used personal information about bloggers in order to research their backgrounds for the purposes of “outing” them on YOUR blog had been permanently banned, yet neither of your two most prominent cyber-stalkers even got a warning, let alone a time-out.

Your faux concern for “respect” flies in the face of every blogger who uses the terms “libtard”, Teatard”, “Rethuglican” and every other name being used to denigrate a series of people or specific bloggers.

In short, you enable this so-called disrespect by not doing anything about it in the first place, and if you were honest with yourself, you’d admit that you let those who agree with your side of the aisle get away with much more than those on the other side.

And if you don’t like the truth when it stares you in the face, that’s YOUR problem, not mine.

Adam

August 24th, 2011
4:19 pm

josef: kinda makes me wonder what it is women want in a man…

Abstinence?

Dusty

August 24th, 2011
4:19 pm

Yes, Granny, we know your liberal predictions.

Perry is going to flame out just like he did in elections in Texas. Reelected how many times? Oh yeah, going on three I believe. But nobody likes him!!! Huh?! Has no appeal!! Huh?! No military experience! Only 5 years! No executive experience ! Ho hum……and Democrats just plain don’t like him.

Perry has everything going for him. Not to mention, he will be running against Prez Obama and the hope and small change that left long ago. Run, Texas jackrabbit!! We need you.

Adam

August 24th, 2011
4:19 pm

Thulsa: Just kidding- couldn’t resist.

:D

Granny Godzilla

August 24th, 2011
4:19 pm

POGO

That cheap shot at the First lady is over the top.

Jm

August 24th, 2011
4:20 pm

Josef 4:14 the ones (I’m sure there are several levy clans in savannah) that lived downtown…. And had the jewelry store on broughton st

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 24th, 2011
4:21 pm

Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) has just signed the controversial Susan B. Anthony anti-abortion pledge, vowing to nominate strict constructionist judges, “select only pro-life appointees for relevant Cabinet and Executive Branch positions,” push for defunding Planned Parenthood and other taxpayer-supported abortion providers, and to sign a Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act.

Oh great, another pledge of mis-allegiance….

@@

August 24th, 2011
4:22 pm

Perry is HOT

I’m not seein’ it. Personal preference, I s’pose.

Granny Godzilla

August 24th, 2011
4:22 pm

Dusty

yes, he’ll flame out. that’s all I wrote, but thanks for all the imaginitive details.

Paul

August 24th, 2011
4:23 pm

“concern for whomever we conservatives (or cons, if you will) will ultimately pick as our candidate”

And that, folks, is how the Republican Party sees itself nowadays. Not as Republicans, but as cons.

md

August 24th, 2011
4:23 pm

“Who are the extremists on the left? Just asking.”

Those from either party that go into the booth looking only at the letter behind the name……………..more often than not not even looking at the name………….

In math class, that’s called “canceling” or reduction…………….and that is why the independents usually make the difference………….swing vote if you will.

Thulsa Doom

August 24th, 2011
4:24 pm

I’ll take the “OMG help us Perry is a conservative Christian” card for $1000 Alex Trebek.

Jay

August 24th, 2011
4:24 pm

No, Dave R., respect is inherent. If you can’t live by those rules, fine. I’ll act accordingly.

Furthermore, take responsibility. You did everything but publish your own Social Security number here, and then you blame ME because you made your identity known?

Sorry, as someone whose face and name is connected to everything I say and do here, I don’t have much sympathy for a predicament you caused yourself.

To close, if you can’t show respect, leave.

Tommy Maddox

August 24th, 2011
4:24 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 24th, 2011
4:25 pm

Shirely F, self-identified former mayor of Atlanta, whines about being identified as justification for her constant name-calling…

how funny.

Dusty

August 24th, 2011
4:25 pm

Granny

Iaginative details? You are still living in the haze of the last election. My info on Perry comes from Google. Feel free to check anytime. And while you are at it, check approval polls and see how the president is doing. Might get you out of the haze.

Adam

August 24th, 2011
4:26 pm

md: swing vote if you will.

Oh, I thought you meant political figures.

pogo

August 24th, 2011
4:27 pm

Michelle IS over the top Granny; over the top of everyone else standing around her, that is! You are much too serious. She is a large woman who basically dwarfs every other person (or monument) around her in every picture that is taken of her.

Thulsa Doom

August 24th, 2011
4:27 pm

This election aint about abortion or social issues much to the chagrin of some people. Its about the economy stupid. And the economy of one state in particular has produced more jobs by a vast margin than any other state in the union. And that Jack is a fact. And that state Jack is Texas.

Joe the Plutocrat

August 24th, 2011
4:28 pm

enough with the “crush” predictions. these clowns have to “crush” each other before the last man standing will take on the incumbent POTUS (tough to beat). haven’t had a “one and done” since Pappy Bush 41 got “crushed” by a trailer park huckster from Arkansas. you know, some of you more extremist types need to rent “The Color of Money” (or “On the Waterfront” or “Pulp Fiction”). The real money doesn’t care about who wins and who loses (ideology). the real money only cares about the payout; and if Wall Street. Big D, Big Pharm, et al see a better payout with Obama, he will remain in office. There is always the possibility of a “short sell” but it’s like derivitives; if the oligarch feel there is more money in losing, they’ll bet on losing.

josef

August 24th, 2011
4:28 pm

Jm

Those are the ones…did you know any of the Minis or Sheftalls?

ADAM
@ 4:19

:-)

Adam

August 24th, 2011
4:29 pm

Dave R: By your definition of respect, almost NO ONE on this blog deserves respect. You do a lot of the stuff you listed.

I don’t want to go too far now that this might turn into a personal attack-fest and I kind of like posting here. I can’t remember the last time I called you names, but I’m sure I am guilty of it somewhere, even if not directed at you. I try to avoid it. I certainly don’t have a snazzy name picked out for you that you don’t understand and therefore doesn’t affect you anyway.

Dusty

August 24th, 2011
4:29 pm

Paul, 4:23

You see Republicans as “cons”? When did you start copying getalife?

Jm

August 24th, 2011
4:29 pm

Oh what’d I miss? Who’s Dave?

Thulsa Doom

August 24th, 2011
4:30 pm

Pogo,

I dunno about Bachmann towering over everyone. That photo that Newsweek had of her wasn’t too flattering. Then again its not as if newsweek or the media in general doesn’t have media bias. Isn’t newsweek the same magazine who had an editor that said Obama is “sorta like a God”. Michelle would have a tough time beating someone who is “sorta like a God!”

Adam

August 24th, 2011
4:31 pm

I’m out, driving home! Have a good one, all!

FrankLeeDarling

August 24th, 2011
4:31 pm

Come on folks it is obvious what the plan is,run the crazies first then Rommny or Huntsman will seem reasonable in comparison.

Jm

August 24th, 2011
4:32 pm

Josef, no sheftalls

Without using full names in this zoo, I grew up with a Ms. F Minis and a Ms J Levy. Levy’s were neighbors.

md

August 24th, 2011
4:33 pm

“haven’t had a “one and done” since Pappy Bush 41 got “crushed” by a trailer park huckster from Arkansas.”

In all fairness, probably with an assist to Perot…………..

If Nader plans to put up a challenger as he said he will, 2012 may be eerily similar………..in the other direction………