Perry the GOP frontrunner in Ga., and nationally as well
Via Jim Galloway, a poll of Georgia Republicans by Channel Two Action News and InsiderAdvantage:
Rick Perry: 24 percent;
Herman Cain: 15 percent;
Newt Gingrich: 9 percent;
Michele Bachmann: 8 percent;
Mitt Romney: 6 percent;
Ron Paul: 5 percent;
Jon Huntsman: 1 percent;
Undecided, 20 percent.
It’s no surprise that Perry’s doing well in Georgia, but the size of his lead is a little startling so soon after his entry into the race. The fact that Romney, the longtime frontrunner who has been in the race for months, draws just 6 percent here in the Peach State is a stark reminder of his problems with the party’s conservative base.
In a similar poll taken in Florida earlier this month, before Perry’s official entry, Romney pulled 25 percent, with Perry drawing support from 16 percent and Bachmann getting 10 percent. I doubt those numbers would be duplicated today, with Perry now an official candidate.
The most recent numbers out of South Carolina, another important primary state, date back to mid-July, when Perry was just beginning to make noises about a serious run. Romney drew 25 percent, with Sarah Palin at 16 percent, Bachmann at 15 percent and Cain at 13 percent. But again, Perry’s entry into the race has no doubt altered that landscape.
That’s certainly what has happened nationally. Here’s Rasmussen from earlier this week:
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Republican Primary voters, taken Monday night, finds Perry with 29% support. Romney, the former Massachusetts governor who ran unsuccessfully for the GOP presidential nomination in 2008, earns 18% of the vote, while Bachmann, the Minnesota congresswoman who won the high-profile Ames Straw Poll in Iowa on Saturday, picks up 13%.
Texas Congressman Ron Paul, who was a close second to Bachmann on Saturday, has the support of nine percent (9%) of Likely Primary Voters, followed by Georgia businessman Herman Cain at six percent (6%) and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich with five percent (5%). Rick Santorum, former U.S. senator from Pennsylvania, and ex-Utah Governor Jon Huntsman each get one percent (1%) support, while Michigan Congressman Thaddeus McCotter comes in statistically at zero.
At this point, Perry is probably the frontrunner in the race, with the important proviso that like Bachmann, he has the potential to self-destruct at any moment.
– Jay Bookman
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RW-(the original)
August 20th, 2011
11:54 pm
Soother paranoid???? Say it ain’t so, Joe, say it ain’t so.
getalife
August 20th, 2011
11:54 pm
RW,
I admit a few laughs from pf but he was pretty average on attacks back then.
About the only time he got serious was when he talked about his wife.
Soothsayer
August 20th, 2011
11:56 pm
“Soother paranoid???? Say it ain’t so, Joe, say it ain’t so.”
Amazing isn’t it? Kinda like buildings that fall down for no apparent reason? Huh?
RW-(the original)
August 20th, 2011
11:59 pm
About the only time he got serious was when he talked about his wife.
I always hoped somehow that he wasn’t being truthful about that, but I suspect he was. I sincerely hope she either pulled thorough or is no longer suffering.
Soothsayer
August 20th, 2011
11:59 pm
Look, RW, don’t take it personally, OK? It’s simple economics. You’re company could hire 3 people for the salary they were paying you. Not to mention the cost of your health insurance. I warned you, didn’t I?
Bruno
August 20th, 2011
11:59 pm
facts that I agree with
And therein lies the Greater Truth, Mick. About the only column Jay ever wrote that I agreed with is the one in which he cited a study which showed that people generally start off with foregone conclusions, then look for facts after the fact that support that conclusion. I have no problem admitting that I do that. Somehow I wonder if Jay is honest enough to admit that he does the same thing. He seemed to make some veiled references that it was strictly a conservative habit. I’ll look back to see if I can find that one again.
RW-(the original)
August 21st, 2011
12:01 am
Amazing isn’t it? Kinda like buildings that fall down for no apparent reason? Huh?
See? I rest my case.
Mick
August 21st, 2011
12:02 am
Well, those wild turkeys have just chased me into the sleep zone, thanks for the great stories and tuneage all. I’ll leave you wit dis-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUjcjUF-urU&feature=related
Soothsayer
August 21st, 2011
12:03 am
RW: I’ll be on the look out for you at Wal-Mart, OK?
RW-(the original)
August 21st, 2011
12:04 am
It’s simple economics. You’re company could hire 3 people for the salary they were paying you
Only 3? Geez, if they wanted worthless zombies they could hire way more than 3, but what would be the point?
getalife
August 21st, 2011
12:04 am
RW,
He did not answer me when I asked about her but I think he posted her art.
Comedians are mostly crazy so you never know.
RW-(the original)
August 21st, 2011
12:06 am
RW: I’ll be on the look out for you at Wal-Mart, OK?
I’ve got a few things to pick up there tomorrow. Will you be my greeter?
Soothsayer
August 21st, 2011
12:06 am
RW: The ten-year anniversary will be coming up soon. Jay can’t mention a word about for fear of losing his job, but I can. See ya soon!
Mick
August 21st, 2011
12:06 am
bruno@11:59
Yes, I freely admit that about 80% of the time, but I will always challenge myself to be open minded to a well reasoned, logical argument….out
Soothsayer
August 21st, 2011
12:08 am
Yeah, RW, laugh it off! We’ll see how funny you are in about 6 months! Don’t forget the Repubs cut off your “extended benefits.”
RW-(the original)
August 21st, 2011
12:09 am
RW: The ten-year anniversary will be coming up soon. Jay can’t mention a word about for fear of losing his job, but I can. See ya soon!
Are we going to see the “Smirking Chimp Plants the Bombs” video or is it going to more Truther BS?
Soothsayer
August 21st, 2011
12:09 am
Yes, a “producer” becomes a “parasite” through no fault of his own! A modern day tragedy!
RW-(the original)
August 21st, 2011
12:13 am
Yeah, RW, laugh it off! We’ll see how funny you are in about 6 months! Don’t forget the Repubs cut off your “extended benefits.”
We might need a ruling from the self-appointed blog nanny on that one Soother, but you’ll never find me looking for “benefits” from the government, extended or otherwise.
Soothsayer
August 21st, 2011
12:16 am
You just keep believing that, OK? Get ready for your new life. The life the people you and your ilk love to cast dispersions on! He that is first now will later be last.
Pomposity has it’s own reward, doesn’t it, RW?
RW-(the original)
August 21st, 2011
12:21 am
Pomposity has it’s own reward, doesn’t it, RW?
Maybe, but there are a lot better people to turn to for “expert” advice on that one than myself around here.
Bruno
August 21st, 2011
12:23 am
We might need a ruling from the self-appointed blog nanny on that one Soother, but you’ll never find me looking for “benefits” from the government, extended or otherwise.
Did someone call for a ruling here??
Sorry, Sooth, those of us on the front lines of business don’t qualify for unemployment benefits. We do, however, get the privilege of paying in thousands of dollars for our employees, though. Easy enough for Jay and the Lib contingency to call for 99 weeks or more of freebies, though. You guys aren’t paying for it.
Alright, RW, we’re back on the same team temporarily. And if history repeats itself, it will be extremely temporary.
Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k
August 21st, 2011
12:27 am
““Forgotten Messiah” won’t be posting for awhile…”
Makes me almost believe in a higher power after all.
In addition to Jay, that is.
RW-(the original)
August 21st, 2011
12:27 am
Alright, RW, we’re back on the same team temporarily. And if history repeats itself, it will be extremely temporary.
Actually we’re nearly always on the same page ideologically, we just don’t like each other.
Bruno
August 21st, 2011
12:27 am
Damn, can’t find Jay’s article about looking for facts to support our foregone conclusions. He must have hidden it knowing that I would nail him on it.
I did, however see an article which confirms what I’ve been saying about healthcare: 50% of us only use 3% of healthcare resources, while somewhere around 5% of the population suck up the vast majority of the resources. My numbers may be off, I’m too tired to remember correctly, but the concept stands. That’s why we need a choice, not a mandate.
Soothsayer
August 21st, 2011
12:30 am
RW: In all sincere respects, I hope you are able to find something that approaches the position you had before. Many people I know have been successful in doing just that.
Even though we are on different sides of the ideological divide, I sincerely don’t wish evil or hardship on you.
I know that my criticism of you tonight has been harsh and for that I apologize. It’s just that I see this cavalier attitude from the Right regarding the jobless, homeless, and the unemployed. As if it were their fault that they are suffering.
Maybe this experience will be an epiphany for you. Maybe you will change your attitude. I don’t know.
I have suffered for years trying to establish my business. I was dirt-poor while my friends were living it up! But now, many of them are suffering, and I am finally realizing the fruits of my labors.
Good luck to you RW. I hope that you will find success.
Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k
August 21st, 2011
12:30 am
And I just gotta say, after reading the bulk of the posts after I left here around 7:30 or so, that the majority of you people appear to be stinkin’ blitzed tonight.
Just sayin’!
Bruno
August 21st, 2011
12:34 am
Actually we’re nearly always on the same page ideologically, we just don’t like each other.
No problem. I do need to get you onto a poker table or golf course one of these days, however, since you’ve got money to burn. I’ll have to bring my Pharaoh Club chips to the Bookman Blog Party.
Soothsayer
August 21st, 2011
12:36 am
“the majority of you people appear to be stinkin’ blitzed tonight.”
WTF did you expect, Dave R., it’s Saturday night!
Bruno
August 21st, 2011
12:39 am
It’s just that I see this cavalier attitude from the Right regarding the jobless, homeless, and the unemployed. As if it were their fault that they are suffering.
And that is where you are dead wrong, Sooth. I think the greater rates of charitable giving by conservatives pretty much disproves your “cavalier attitude” theory. We all want to see everyone doing well. I think the objection you might perceive coming from the Right is the unwillingness to help the scammers, those who refuse to help themselves.
RW-(the original)
August 21st, 2011
12:40 am
Soother,
I appreciate the sentiments of your 12:30 post I guess, but I don’t have the first clue what you mean. I’ve had a successful professional sports career, a successful business career, and am currently running a friend’s business as much or more for the challenge as the check.
I don’t think I’ve mocked the jobless and were I to become one tomorrow I wouldn’t bat an eyelash worrying about my next project or undertaking.
RW-(the original)
August 21st, 2011
12:44 am
No problem. I do need to get you onto a poker table or golf course one of these days
I suck at poker since I always expect to get lucky so you better make it both and hope I don’t get lucky with the cards. You’ve got no prayer on the course.
Bruno
August 21st, 2011
12:45 am
I’ve had a successful professional sports career
Holy crap!! You’re Rasheed Wallace??? Who knew???
Wait a minute, I don’t remember Rasheed moonlighting on 96 Rock……
Soothsayer
August 21st, 2011
12:45 am
“I think the objection you might perceive coming from the Right is the unwillingness to help the scammers, those who refuse to help themselves.”
See, this is where we disagree, Bruno. I believe that the vast majority of people (99.999%) would prefer to earn an honest living given the opportunity. Are there malingerers? Certainly!
But, shall we use that as the excuse to throw the rest under the bus? Can we accept that things are really tough? And that millions of people are suffering through no fault of their own.
I personally know many people (in the real estate profession and buildgers) who are absolutely destitute. Did they do anything wrong? Did they make bad choices? Think about it.
Is that your excuse for not caring?
Bruno
August 21st, 2011
12:45 am
You’ve got no prayer on the course.
Sure I do. I cheat.
RW-(the original)
August 21st, 2011
12:48 am
Sure I do. I cheat.
I don’t, so I suppose that explains our differences in a nutshell.
Bruno
August 21st, 2011
12:48 am
I’m not a pro caliber golfer, but I have had the privilege of playing Atlanta’s finest courses due to my career. My personal favorite is Settin’ Down Creek in Alpharetta. Ever play that one?? I’ve also been to East Lake, AAC, etc.
Soothsayer
August 21st, 2011
12:50 am
I’ve been to Atlanta Athletic Club. I drove by there once.
Bruno
August 21st, 2011
12:52 am
I don’t, so I suppose that explains our differences in a nutshell.
Nice try, RW. You might ought to stop taking yourself (and others) so seriously. You’re not going to find a more honest person than Bruno, especially when it comes to business. You’re not going to find one person who can say that I cheated them.
Soothsayer
August 21st, 2011
12:53 am
“and am currently running a friend’s business as much or more for the challenge as the check.”
Make sure you don’t have anything to do with the payroll.
RW-(the original)
August 21st, 2011
12:55 am
Bruno,
I’ve played Augusta National, Pebble Beach, and St. Andrews. Should we leave it there or do you want to know if I’ve played Hard Labor Creek?
RW-(the original)
August 21st, 2011
12:58 am
You’re not going to find one person who can say that I cheated them.
Bruno,
I know how much you love your out of context word games so I’m sure I’ll see a truncated version of this conversation in the future, but I never accused of cheating anyone and I never called you a cheater in general. You did that yourself.
Bruno
August 21st, 2011
12:58 am
Actually, AAC isn’t all that great in my book. There are several public courses which are much better, IMO. Cobblestone in Cobb, Chicopee Woods, and even Towne Lake have more interesting layouts. Another overrated course is White Columns.
Bruno
August 21st, 2011
1:00 am
I’ve played Augusta National
Well, you got me there. I made a few feeble efforts to get out to Augusta National, but couldn’t pull enough strings. Anyone can play Pebble Beach or even St Andrews if you have the cash.
RW-(the original)
August 21st, 2011
1:01 am
Make sure you don’t have anything to do with the payroll.
Soother,
Are you sure it isn’t long past your bedtime? What would having “something to do with” payroll matter and do you honestly think I would agree to run a company without having full control of payroll?
Bruno
August 21st, 2011
1:02 am
but I never accused of cheating anyone and I never called you a cheater in general. You did that yourself.
Perhaps you might acquire more skill at recognizing when someone is being tongue-in-cheek, then. Thus my “taking yourself and others too seriously” comment.
RW-(the original)
August 21st, 2011
1:05 am
Is tongue in cheek the same as saying kiss my a$$? We may need another ruling.
Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k
August 21st, 2011
1:09 am
I think there should be a penalty for people who try “tongue in cheek” without the proper use of an emoticon.
Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k
August 21st, 2011
1:30 am
RW, there was I guy I used to work with that got to play Augusta National the Monday following the Masters. The pins and tees were still in the same place as they were for the final round. He was like a 2-handicapper and ended up shooting an 85 that day.
Said that the greens were like putting in a bathtub.
Bruno
August 21st, 2011
1:51 am
Well, if RW is a good golfer, then I better challenge him to a limbo dance contest then. I doubt if he would agree to a GO match.
Last man standing, as always:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGeHQxEXi0A
Normal
August 21st, 2011
7:27 am
Happy Sunday to all y’all…
I have to go back and do my…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2XHYKWLGTg
…imatation, but…it was for time and a half yesterday and double time today…gotta love those Unions!
Jack
August 21st, 2011
8:02 am
Letting a Hollywood movie affect one’s judgement does not indicate maturity. It’s akin to Obama impressing voters with his well fitting suits and ability to read prompters correctly.
Mick
August 21st, 2011
8:23 am
normal
Yes, a good american union job where people earn decent wages and benefits, an alien concept to most people in georgia and the south. They would rather slave away and carry water for the corporate thugs and convince themselves its better for them. Tomorrow on the iced tea party-
http://www.credoaction.com/comics/2011/08/tea-party-tim-and-plutocrat-pete/
Mick
August 21st, 2011
8:27 am
http://www.doonesbury.com/strip
Mick
August 21st, 2011
8:34 am
By the way, Good Morning all-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agenYwQrH8U&feature=related
Common Sense isn't very Common
August 21st, 2011
8:42 am
Mick – how’s the weather shaping up down there today
carlosgvv
August 21st, 2011
8:51 am
Mick – 8:27
How true. When you tell them they have been brainwashed by Republican and Corporate propaganda, it soon becomes apparent they are not capable of understanding what you are saying. These people are the beloved of the Republicans and Big Business and, unfortunately, they seem to be increasing in number. Dumb and dumber is looking to be the new reality in politics. Forewarned is forearmed.
Good Little Liberal
August 21st, 2011
9:00 am
carlosgvv
Nobody is “beloved”. We just think it is immoral to steal money from people who have it. I personally think that it is shamedful to play class wrafare.
There have always been haves and havenots. If you are a have not, here’s an idea: work harder. It works.
MightyRighty
August 21st, 2011
9:00 am
Self Destruct? LOL. Obama self destructs every day. He no longer enforces our laws in his desperate attempt to find someone to vote for him. His new energy policy is guaranteed to cost thousands of jobs. Meanwhile, he is laying on the beach. What a loser.
Good Little Liberal
August 21st, 2011
9:08 am
MightyRighty
They were saying the same thing before they got their spanking in the last election. Black people are turning on Obama. I would say that the canary in the coal mine is dead. Most of the Democrats won’t vote for a Republican, but the turn out is just not going to be there. The Republican turn-out to get the Marxist out of the White House will be huge.
stephen
August 21st, 2011
9:13 am
All collar, no cattle. Think George Bush without the intellect.
Good Little Liberal
August 21st, 2011
9:17 am
stephen
The intelect that gave him a degree from Harvard and a degree from Yale, or maybe we should have another Al Gore who flunked out of devinity school.
You guys are quick with talking points that you are ill-informed enough to believe. Don’t expect us to swallow the kool-aid.
1811/0311
August 21st, 2011
9:18 am
Bumper Sticker:
“1-20-13 The End of an Error”
MightyRighty
August 21st, 2011
9:44 am
I have been trying to understand why Obama can’t make a decision. I understand his lack of managerial experience may keep him from bring a problem solver and keep him from organizing and achieving goals. But, the decision thing has me puzzeled. Then it hit me. He never had the benefit of a father. No males to teach him how to be a man. His real father abandoned his mother when he was only two years old or less. His mother was more interested in her own education than she was in raising him, so she delegated or abandoned that responsibility to her mother. He never talks about even a grandfather. His mother ran off to Indonesia and apparently remarried. But Obama never talks about his step father either. So it is no wonder he doesn’t know how to take resposibility for his own actions or to be a man. I am not sure of my reasoning but there is definitely something wrong with someone who is afraid to make a decision.
Jm
August 21st, 2011
9:46 am
Obama. Not good at listening.
Harold ford jr, a decent listener. Says Obama needs to stop new regulations.
Jm
August 21st, 2011
9:48 am
Msnbc: no Obama energy plan, which is a problem.
Common Sense isn't very Common
August 21st, 2011
9:50 am
JM – Good morning to you.
I agree that any new regulations need to stop at least temporarily until the economy recovers some more.
But in the climate in DC what will be the tradeoffs? If Obama is for something you can bet the far right will be against it
Left wing management
August 21st, 2011
9:50 am
retired early: “What baffles me is the attraction the GOP has with candidates who celebrate ignorance while denouncing science…applaud less educated, over the “best educated”.
I think the question this raises kind of answers itself …
Jm
August 21st, 2011
9:52 am
Mighty righty, while I think u have the semblance of a point and a thought worthy of discussion, I think people are not just the product of their parents. They develop their own skills and talents.
In short, Obama may (or may not) have difficulty making decisions and leading. But I wouldn’t hang it entirely on his upbringing. Maybe too much cocaine…..
getalife
August 21st, 2011
9:54 am
The regulations they are talking about are for the banks to collapse the economy again.
We are drilling more than ever so that is a lie.
ford lost his dlc and could lose an election for dog catcher.
Turn off the talking heads because they are full of hot air.
Stick with the facts not corporate spin.
Good Little Liberal
August 21st, 2011
9:56 am
Left wing management
Try to avoid the vague talking points you just posted. Celebrate ignorance? Denouncing science? Applaud less educated? The only people you will convince with that garbage are the bobble heads that can’t think any further than those shallow talking points demonstrate.
Jm
August 21st, 2011
9:56 am
Anti common, I don’t entirely disagree with your point
Republicans deserve some blame.
On MR’s point about leadership. I think part of the problem is that the direction Obama wants to lead in a direction different than the admittedly somewhat schizo American public wants to go
Brosephus
August 21st, 2011
9:58 am
NoCom
Good question. Seems like many castigate Obama for not making decisions. When he makes decisions, he’s castigated for making them. That dude ain’t gonna ever come out ahead. If he decided to drop corp taxes to zero, people would probably claim he’s doing it to gain votes. Either that, or they’d gripe because he didn’t make it a negative percentage or something.
Meanwhile, we’re beginning upon our lost decade. IF the GOP ends back up in the WH, it’s gonna be interesting as hell to see how they spin the lack of economic growth over that 4 year period. Our economy’s not gonna get better for at least 5-7 years regardless of who’s in office. We don’t have the infrastructure in place to manufacture an economic bounce back.
carlosgvv
August 21st, 2011
10:01 am
Good Little Liberal
I can assure you these dumb and dumber voters are beloved by the Republicans because they will believe anything they are told and will vote for any Republican frontrunner, no matter how incompetent they are. As for “stealing money from people who have it”, all Obama has tried to do is to let Bush’s tax-break laws for the rich expire. This has caused the Republicans to go into spasams of panic since The Rich are their sponsors and furnish them all their funding for elections and re-elections. Naturally, when Republicans tell their simple followers they are just trying to stop Obama from “stealing money from people who have it”, they believe it completely. As for “working harder”, if Corporations would start hiring and not keep piling more and more work on their current employees, maybe the unemployed could start working.
Doggone/GA
August 21st, 2011
10:01 am
“Either that, or they’d gripe because he didn’t make it a negative percentage or something”
And if if did THAT, they’d complain he was spending “government money” the government doesn’t have and increasing the debt.
Good Little Liberal
August 21st, 2011
10:02 am
MightyRighty
I agree to a point. His Grandmother was a huge achiever in the bank wher she became the first female VP. He has seen decision making, but he seems to have had a chip on his shoulder since he was a kid. He tried to claim that he was treated badly at Panahou because he was “black” but the reality is that Panahou has been a deverse private school since it’s founding. The Dreams of my Father was about a father with no backbone and who was much more planting human seeds than being a father. His other book was inspired by Wright who was an overt racist.
He is simply the worst of the worst to be elected. He was just Black enough for the DNC who had supported the likes of Robert Byrd back to Orval Forbus to toss into the ring, knowing that he would carry 95% of 30% of the country.
Hopefully we can fix all this next fall.
Jm
August 21st, 2011
10:04 am
Bro fair point about the economy
But there are things that can be done to help
Obama has done some of them. But maybe only a quarter of them
Boy zakaria is down on the US. Not a huge fan of his
Good Little Liberal
August 21st, 2011
10:04 am
carlosgvv
Again, ill-informed talking points. The Bush tax cuts helped the middle class much more than they helped the rich.
Simple followers? Aren’t you the guy who voted for the candidate that ran under the intelligence insultying mantra of Hope and Change?
ShazamVet
August 21st, 2011
10:06 am
The latest big mouth, would-be cowboy with no cattle, get’s called out for his sophomoric rhetoric.
Former Treasury official Bruce Bartlett labeled newly-minted Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry “an idiot” Friday.
Bartlett, who served at Treasury under former President George H.W. Bush and as a domestic policy adviser to the late President Ronald Reagan, delivered the choice words to the Texas Gov. in reference to his recent comments about Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke.
“I mean, printing more money to play politics at this particular time in American history is almost treacherous, or treasonous, in my opinion,” Perry said Monday in Iowa. He stood by his comments Tuesday.
A candidate for president of the United States who talks like one of the lunatic fringe bloggers here?
Really??
And he’s your big gun?
My goodmess…
Left wing management
August 21st, 2011
10:07 am
Good little liberal, the crisis we’re in is a political crisis, but also a cultural crisis, with the bankruptcy of the current ruling class clear for all to see. The center right Obama administration — just one face of a coin with GOP on the other side — obviously has no answers. The GOP, even less so.
What does appear to represent something new is Perry and Bachmann, which essentially offers a repeal of the 20th C and a return to the 19th, before there was a broad-based middle class and the social programs of a welfare state. This development threatens to blow the GOP coalition of the past 30 years to bits. As Perry’s comments about Bernanke, and all of Bachmann’s comments on the economy, indicate, these people are fundamentally a threat to global capitalism as we’ve known it. And the GOP can’t have that. If you think George W. exposed cracks in the GOP coalition, a Perry administration will make that look like child’s play.
Good Little Liberal
August 21st, 2011
10:09 am
ShazamVet
And Obama, the failure king is your big gun?
There’s no doubt that both paties are offering disappointing candidates, but I’m pretty sure that not having a president for the past three years would have been better than having a complete imbecile in the White House.
Brosephus
August 21st, 2011
10:10 am
Doggone
Didn’t think about that part of the equation. Fair point there too!!
jm
About the only thing that I see we can do right now is push education and training. Until the flow of money in the private sector thaws, there’s not much else that can be done. The whole tax/budget cut ideology going on right now pretty much negates any type of spending from the government that could possibly aid the government. Simply repealing regulations more than likely would boost the economy right into the next bubble. About the only sensible thing I see we could do is prepare a solid foundation to plant our economy instead of inflating different sectors one at a time.
Jm
August 21st, 2011
10:11 am
Zakaria is just wrong
MightyRighty
August 21st, 2011
10:11 am
It is hilarious how the same people who blame the poor economy on George Bush, without bothering to take a breath, emphaticly state the President is not responsible for the economy. Talk about schizoprenia. They defend Obama’s horrible economic record by blaming it on a president who, according to their very own strange philosophy couldn’t be the cause. It makes my head swim trying to find some semblence of logic in their agrguments. It must be our educational system.
Good Little Liberal
August 21st, 2011
10:14 am
Left wing management
I suppose the big difference in the way Democrats think is that you think in huge generalities, making it possible that terms like “repeal of the 20th C and a return to the 19th”. They want to get rid of cars? Airplanes? Telephones? Can you please point out where they are offering horse and buggy incentives?
Specifics? The people who will accept these vague terms will already vote for Obama. After all, they voted for Hope and Change. The downfall of Obama will be in the hands of people who tend to question those kinds of terms.
Jm
August 21st, 2011
10:15 am
Bro I disagree to some extent
Reforming the tax code would have a huge benefit
Rightsizing entitlements sous hugely improve the future deficit and debt picture which would be a huge psychological boost short term with commensurate short term, and big long term real benefits
Regulation is more complex. I don’t think there should be a freeze. There should be a rollback of many useless regs and some necessary new ones (some not all on bAnking) should proceed
Left wing management
August 21st, 2011
10:15 am
MightyRighty: “It is hilarious how the same people who blame the poor economy on George Bush, without bothering to take a breath, emphaticly state the President is not responsible for the economy”
When the previous tenants neglected the building and allowed the whole thing to catch on fire, then the new management can be forgiven for still having to wrestle with the fallout 2-3 yrs later. Especially when other buildings in the neighborhood are still struggling to put out continuing fires that threatens the whole neighborhood.
Common Sense isn't very Common
August 21st, 2011
10:16 am
Maybe Perry needs to pray for rain harder so that at least the texans will vote for him
Good Little Liberal
August 21st, 2011
10:17 am
Common Sense isn’t very Common
Maybe Obama should pray for an improved economy. Nothing else he has tried has worked.
Midori
August 21st, 2011
10:17 am
The intelect that gave him a degree from Harvard and a degree from Yale, or maybe we should have another Al Gore who flunked out of devinity school.
now, just look at that statement. just look at it.
pathetic doesn’t even describe this ridiculous comparison.
besides, what would junior have done without daddy’s help getting him in school?
ivy league schools should do away with legacy candidates. especially when they are as dumb as a ton of bricks.
Jm
August 21st, 2011
10:18 am
Ben stein on CBS. Why anyone puts a guy on TV who said subprime mortgages weren’t a problem as an economic authority that criticizes perry for economic ignorance is beyond me
ShazamVet
August 21st, 2011
10:19 am
I know Saint Ronnie of the godly policies is way busy helping out the big guy upstairs but Eddie “War on Pornography” Meese is still around to help in this righteous endeavor, correct?
Puritanical little Delaware witches and morality-legislating cons like Michele Wild Eyes think they can pray away the gay AND pray away the spank monkeys too.
Hysterical…
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/21/can-the-burgeoning-christian-crusade-against-pornography-bear-fruit/?hpt=hp_c1
Midori
August 21st, 2011
10:19 am
Rep. Maxine Waters: ‘The tea party can go straight to hell’
you go, girl.
especially when Allen West, Tea Party Darling, had to send his brother to you because he couldn’t find a job.
Where’s all those TP connections, Allen??
MightyRighty
August 21st, 2011
10:20 am
Left wing management
August 21st, 2011
10:15 am
After three years of manageement failure to do anything positive the tenants would fire the idiots that just don’t get it! That is correct solution and it will be implemented.
Jm
August 21st, 2011
10:20 am
Midori 10:17 your arrogance is boundless
Jm
August 21st, 2011
10:21 am
CBS showing pole dancing
Media has gone in the toilet
Good Little Liberal
August 21st, 2011
10:22 am
Midori
This may come as a huge shock to you, but Daddy Bush wasn’t president when Jr. entered school. In fact, in 1964 when Jr entered Yale, his daddy was an employee of a very Democratic Washington, ran by LBJ and a segragationist Congress. Do you really think that the ultra liberal schools of Yale and Harvard would give an unknown Republican’s son a break.
THINK. Too much to ask?
MightyRighty
August 21st, 2011
10:23 am
Midori’ have you heard from any of Obama’s brothers or ssisters. He has a bunch of them.
Left wing management
August 21st, 2011
10:24 am
GLL, one problem with Perry’s candidacy (unlike say Bachmann, who’s the real deal) is that I don’t personally know how much of his rhetoric to attribute to cynical self-interest and a ploy to get elected vs. how much actually believes this stuff. But the point is that — taking him at his word — his policies of doubling down on free market fundamentalism, elimination of taxes on the wealthy and big corporations, and slashing of regulations, would be disastrous because 1) it’s of limited value even under the best of circumstances, though in some economic situations it can appear to work for a while, and 2) because at the present time in particular it’s a formula for vastly exacerbating our actual economic difficulties, which are due to deflation, lack of consumer demand, sagging real wages, debt overhang, an increasing gap between production and wages brought on be advances in technology — take your pick. But perhaps he can divert attention from this by launching new foreign wars, I don’t know.
Midori
August 21st, 2011
10:24 am
Michele Bachmann: Beware ‘the Soviet Union’
Michele never disappoints.
Mick
August 21st, 2011
10:24 am
common sense
The weather down here is clear, hot, and humid. At least all the sweat keeps the pounds off.
Brosephus
The downright hatred or disliking of obama is so transparent; I agree, five, six, seven more years before all the inventory of homes gets cleared up. All the flipping and flopping of real estate, equity lines, and greedy wall street investment firms with their ponzi financial tools have left the nation bankrupt. Everybody spent like no tomorrow and the cons demand that obama, “fix it” right now. Lest I appear too partisan, this all can be traced back to clinton and bob rubin for disbanding glass/steagull, there’s the root cause…