Perry the GOP frontrunner in Ga., and nationally as well
Via Jim Galloway, a poll of Georgia Republicans by Channel Two Action News and InsiderAdvantage:
Rick Perry: 24 percent;
Herman Cain: 15 percent;
Newt Gingrich: 9 percent;
Michele Bachmann: 8 percent;
Mitt Romney: 6 percent;
Ron Paul: 5 percent;
Jon Huntsman: 1 percent;
Undecided, 20 percent.
It’s no surprise that Perry’s doing well in Georgia, but the size of his lead is a little startling so soon after his entry into the race. The fact that Romney, the longtime frontrunner who has been in the race for months, draws just 6 percent here in the Peach State is a stark reminder of his problems with the party’s conservative base.
In a similar poll taken in Florida earlier this month, before Perry’s official entry, Romney pulled 25 percent, with Perry drawing support from 16 percent and Bachmann getting 10 percent. I doubt those numbers would be duplicated today, with Perry now an official candidate.
The most recent numbers out of South Carolina, another important primary state, date back to mid-July, when Perry was just beginning to make noises about a serious run. Romney drew 25 percent, with Sarah Palin at 16 percent, Bachmann at 15 percent and Cain at 13 percent. But again, Perry’s entry into the race has no doubt altered that landscape.
That’s certainly what has happened nationally. Here’s Rasmussen from earlier this week:
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Republican Primary voters, taken Monday night, finds Perry with 29% support. Romney, the former Massachusetts governor who ran unsuccessfully for the GOP presidential nomination in 2008, earns 18% of the vote, while Bachmann, the Minnesota congresswoman who won the high-profile Ames Straw Poll in Iowa on Saturday, picks up 13%.
Texas Congressman Ron Paul, who was a close second to Bachmann on Saturday, has the support of nine percent (9%) of Likely Primary Voters, followed by Georgia businessman Herman Cain at six percent (6%) and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich with five percent (5%). Rick Santorum, former U.S. senator from Pennsylvania, and ex-Utah Governor Jon Huntsman each get one percent (1%) support, while Michigan Congressman Thaddeus McCotter comes in statistically at zero.
At this point, Perry is probably the frontrunner in the race, with the important proviso that like Bachmann, he has the potential to self-destruct at any moment.
– Jay Bookman
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Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
August 20th, 2011
8:00 pm
Bruno,
You’re mostly liked here, so why the thin skin when folks are only funnin with you?
Adam
August 20th, 2011
8:01 pm
josef, Common Sense: There was no “War of Northern Aggression” or imperialism involved. The states decided they had the right to secede, when they didn’t. They decided they could have slaves and the darn federal government couldn’t tell them what to do goshdarnit. But as far as I’m concerned, they never ACTUALLY were a separate nation, just a big bunch of ego filled states that THOUGHT they were a separate nation. That’s why it’s called the Civil War.
Any framing of the civil war in any context other than slavery being the primary motivator is dishonest, by the way.
josef
August 20th, 2011
8:01 pm
BRUNO
Unlike some, I’m willing to give the devil his due! Not a fan of Meade (supercillious cultural imperialist!) and Buck is not top of my list, being a Yankee Missionary. Michner, now, I have some respect for. And sssshhh…my favorite American author all things considered is John Steinbeck,,,
as for HD, hopefully he’ll add a little class and civility over there where it’s needed…
common sense…
Oysters…bleech, snot on the half shell…unless of course on a baguette from Johnny’s off Decatur…
AmVet
August 20th, 2011
8:03 pm
Bali? Damn, very exotic.
For me, it was Centennial. The stories of those Wyoming snows was something I could really connect with.
And to Sooth’s point about teenage innocence, that time – before PCs and other electronic gizmos – is something I would never, ever trade anything for.
But the waiting feel is fine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6NNGVHrqho
stands for decibels
August 20th, 2011
8:04 pm
AmVet, been meaning to ask-was your Q-ship the original series, or something more recent?
I loved the first generation Q45
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1995_Q45.jpg
but felt it lost its edge, turned kinda generic, after that.
whatever the case, sorry to hear of your loss.
Brosephus
August 20th, 2011
8:04 pm
Bud Wiser, just because some African-American leaders are speaking out against his leadership failings doesn’t mean they aren’t going to pull a lever for him in 2012.
In their minds, they’ll have no where else to go.
And until the GOP actually provides another place for ALL African-Americans, it will remain that way.
Curious Observer
August 20th, 2011
8:04 pm
BTW, Margaret Meade was from my hometown, Doylestown, PA, as were Pearl Buck and James Michener.
Pearl Buck was from Pocahontas County, West Virginia, Bruno. In fact, the house forming her birthplace is on the National Registry. I’ve passed by it many times as a native of adjacent Greenbrier County. Perhaps she moved later in life, but Doyleston, PA was not her birthplace.
Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k
August 20th, 2011
8:06 pm
Strange, getaclue. I just ran through all the posts from last night over at Kyle’s and nowhere does Hillbilly Deluxe state any one particular person or person’s in regards to his leaving here. In fact, he specifically refrained from stating his reason(s).
So I guess you’re just lying again, aren’t you.
Got anything else besides lying, getaclue?
Bruno
August 20th, 2011
8:07 pm
the 1st HOCUS POCUS POTUS, or, the First Hocus Potus.)
Did someone say “Hocus Pocus” ??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4ouPGGLI6Q
Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k
August 20th, 2011
8:07 pm
“And until the GOP actually provides another place for ALL African-Americans, it will remain that way.”
Because the lesser of two evils is always a great way to vote.
getalife
August 20th, 2011
8:08 pm
dave,
Made you look.
Soothsayer
August 20th, 2011
8:09 pm
“whoever thinks that Perry is prez material. UR obviously an idiot and you have no idea who America is. America is exactly who you AINT. The internet ruined you and your kind.”
I know exactly who America is. “America” exists on a third-grade level! America is unhappy! Obama didn’t make them happy. Ergo, they will vote for the Perry. Which is the “un-Obama.”
And, in eight years, they will vote for the “un-Perry” whoever that may be!
Unfortunately, it won’t make any difference. Because the unelected elite who control this country never change. And, what the unelected elite who control this country could care less about what the American people want!
So, go ahead, vote for your Republican alternative! See what you get!
Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k
August 20th, 2011
8:10 pm
“Any framing of the civil war in any context other than slavery being the primary motivator is dishonest, by the way.”
Proving once again that going to school doesn’t mean you get an education . . .
Bruno
August 20th, 2011
8:10 pm
Perhaps she moved later in life, but Doyleston, PA was not her birthplace.
CO–She moved there later in life. Pearl Buck was also born elsewhere, but we still claim her. I rechecked, and Michener was actually adopted, not raised by his aunt.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
August 20th, 2011
8:11 pm
The GOP hasn’t done a good job and needs more Allan Wests. It’s too bad from my perspective that Codi Rice has bowed out.
AmVet
August 20th, 2011
8:11 pm
stands, a pearl colored beauty. And thanks, I very much appreciate all of the goodwill shown by the good peeps here.
Like I say, we’re all in this crazy sh*t together…
http://www.carfinderservice.com/images/used/1310.jpg
This record has such a great feel to it…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnboZTs0ZXw
josef
August 20th, 2011
8:11 pm
RW
All I did was answer your question, acknowledging that it was possibly said in jest and that my own response would be from a “sensitive” standpoint. That was my “launch” pad…and I’m not trying to chasten you particularly. My conclusion was simply that yes, it’s bigoted and yes it is ignorant and you might want to think about insults before you use them…thass all…
josef
August 20th, 2011
8:14 pm
ADAM
“Any framing of the civil war in any context other than slavery being the primary motivator is dishonest, by the way.”
While I wouldn’t argue against that, looking at the frame and not the picture inside is not only dishonest, it’s anti-intellectual and very narrow minded.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
August 20th, 2011
8:16 pm
Good night all. Have to watch a movie with the Mrs. Taps
Bruno
August 20th, 2011
8:17 pm
my favorite American author all things considered is John Steinbeck,,,
Enjoyed Grapes of Wrath, but found The Great Gatsby to be boring.
Favorite American author?? How can anyone not pick Samuel Clemons aka Mark Twain??? The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court, The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County??? C’mon, josef!?!?!?!
Also the author of some of the cleverest quotes of all time: “The coldest winter I ever spent was the summer I spent in San Francisco”
BTW, Clemons also has three patents to his credit.
Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k
August 20th, 2011
8:17 pm
“Because the unelected elite who control this country never change.”
The liberal media?
Brosephus
August 20th, 2011
8:18 pm
Dave
I don’t think many people see it as the lesser of two evils. I think it’s more a case of the status quo versus something probably worse. As others have said, people vote with their pocketbooks. If the GOP brings jobs to the hood and ends the dependence on welfare, they’ll get the votes. Until then, it’s better to just maintain the perceived status quo instead of possibly losing economic ground.
Curious Observer
August 20th, 2011
8:18 pm
Bruno: Here’s the info about the Pearl Buck birthplace. It’s a very pretty house, well-maintained and kept in immaculate condition. It’s along Route 219, which leads south to Lewisburg, the seat of Greenbrier County:
http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG7hUpTlBOqDEATKJXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE0cDFyM3MxBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA01BUDAwNV83NQ–/SIG=11oe6ceiv/EXP=1313914537/**http%3a//www.pearlsbuckbirthplace.com/
Soothsayer
August 20th, 2011
8:18 pm
Iconic and always my favorite BM song! Love it!
And a great message to boot!
poison pen
August 20th, 2011
8:19 pm
getalife
“assad is next because America supports freedom.”
Getalife, Why would you want to go to War again? How many children have you sacrificed for America, or better yet, what have you sacrificed for America.
Brosephus
August 20th, 2011
8:19 pm
Favorite American author??
Stephen King and/or Peter Benchley!!!!
Soothsayer
August 20th, 2011
8:20 pm
No, Dave, these people!
josef
August 20th, 2011
8:21 pm
ADAM
The official records of the federal government use the term War of the Rebellion, a correct term from their perspective. The records of the South used the term War of Southern Independence, a correct term from their perspective. The first term of compromise from the former combattants was The War Between the States, used both North and South. The term Civil War came from the academics of the early 20th Century and is considered by many academics, especially those on the left, to be a misnomer as it was defined in geographical terms.
As Brosephus and I would say, we are headed much more toward a Civil War with the partisan bickering going on which does indeed pit neighbor against neighbor in geographic proximity.
Brosephus
August 20th, 2011
8:23 pm
As Brosephus and I would say, we are headed much more toward a Civil War with the partisan bickering going on which does indeed pit neighbor against neighbor in geographic proximity.
Yep. Neighbor as in next-door neighbor, and not neighbor in general.
Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k
August 20th, 2011
8:23 pm
Off to spend some time with the missus.
Catch you later tonight or tomorrow.
poison pen
August 20th, 2011
8:25 pm
Brosephus
Dave
” I don’t think many people see it as the lesser of two evils. I think it’s more a case of the status quo versus something probably worse. As others have said, people vote with their pocketbooks. If the GOP brings jobs to the hood and ends the dependence on welfare, they’ll get the votes. Until then, it’s better to just maintain the perceived status quo instead of possibly losing economic ground.”
Bro, How can you lose ground if your on Welfare and don’t have a job? Do you think that the people living in the ( hood ) have it better now than 10 or 20 years ago?
getalife
August 20th, 2011
8:28 pm
pp,
Their people have to fight for their freedom.
Are you even paying attention to world events?
josef
August 20th, 2011
8:30 pm
BRUNO
Hated “Gatsby” And F. Scott didn’t write it, Zelda did…
Twain? Don’t much care for his fiction and given his opinions of Indians he ain’t no hero hereabouts…though we both agree that Roughing It and Letters from the Earth are among the finest writing in the English language…
And, remember, I did say Steinbeck was my “favorite.” I never claimed he was “the greatest,” “the best” or any of that. In my opinion, the greatest? Faulkner (sorry, Granny!) The best? Wheew…that’s just too hard to come up with…
Soothsayer
August 20th, 2011
8:30 pm
Jam-man @ 8:11 that song reminds of this one!
Bruno
August 20th, 2011
8:31 pm
If the GOP brings jobs to the hood and ends the dependence on welfare, they’ll get the votes. Until then, it’s better to just maintain the perceived status quo instead of possibly losing economic ground.
Brosephus–Again, just my opinion, but I think that black support for the Democrat Party is based on one thing and one thing only: Affirmative Action. Any fair reading of history shows that it was the Republicans, not the Democrats who pushed for Civil Rights going back to the 1930s. Poll after poll shows that the typical black voter’s political outlook more closely matches that of the Republicans and not the Democrats. But, the Dems have been successful in playing the race card and giving a lot of lip service toward helping the black man while delivering zilch. During the current economic downturn, for example, black families have been hit much harder than white families. Apparently, a Democratic-controlled White House and Congress didn’t make any difference.
josef will say that it’s an impossible task, but the conservative/Republican ideal is, and has been, to remove race as a consideration, a goal that you’ve claimed for yourself. We need to move past the politics of racial identity, but it will never happen as long as the Dems profit from their divide-and-conquer strategy.
Soothsayer
August 20th, 2011
8:31 pm
Josef: how are and the Un-man doing tonight? Fine, I hope!
Soothsayer
August 20th, 2011
8:32 pm
Tanks and tonic all around I hope!
out of the blue
August 20th, 2011
8:33 pm
Enjoyed Grapes of Wrath, but found The Great Gatsby to be boring.
gee Bruno, From your posts I thought you were some kind of big deal in the medical profession, but, if you don’t know that Steinbeck did not write the Great Gatsby, well!
josef
August 20th, 2011
8:36 pm
BRUNO
You’ve got to read Steinbeck’s “The Shorth Reign of Pippin IV…” This is not the place for it, but remind me at SE to tell you why it’s particularly funny to me…
Cannery Row? Tortilla Flat?
“…She had a taste for Nile green evening dresses and ran an honest one price house…”
Soothsayer
August 20th, 2011
8:37 pm
I have researched this and I can confirm beyond any doubt that mosquitoes despise tonic water!!
Bruno
August 20th, 2011
8:39 pm
And, remember, I did say Steinbeck was my “favorite.” I never claimed he was “the greatest,” “the best” or any of that. In my opinion, the greatest? Faulkner (sorry, Granny!) The best? Wheew…that’s just too hard to come up with…
Good point, josef, favorite /= best.
On my favorite American author list, I would also have to include Kurt Vonnegut Jr along with Robert Pirsig (Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance). On the non-fiction side, Physicist Richard Feynman remains at the top of the list, with Brit mathematician W W Sawyer right next to him.
josef
August 20th, 2011
8:39 pm
Sooth
A bit of the hair of the dog…but not out for a repeat of last p.m. I almost was ready to sit down to a Tank and tonic with Helen Thomas…
josef
August 20th, 2011
8:41 pm
BRUNO
Gott join you on Vonnegut, too…Slapstick being one of my favorites… “Gravity was very light that day…” “I’m an old f*rt now with my memories…” “Carlos was really a very stupid man…” “Hi-ho…”
Soothsayer
August 20th, 2011
8:44 pm
josef: tonic is a h*ll of a hangover!
Bruno
August 20th, 2011
8:45 pm
From your posts I thought you were some kind of big deal in the medical profession, but, if you don’t know that Steinbeck did not write the Great Gatsby, well!
A little oops there. Fortunately, my clients don’t come to me for literary guidance!!
On my most overrated author list, I would put James Joyce near the top. “A Portrait of the Artist As A Young Man” sucked.
AmVet
August 20th, 2011
8:46 pm
Sooth, that is so cool.
Never mind that the Allman Brothers Band did not only some of the very best of the best of rock music, they basically defined an entire genre…
From a fabulous solo Gregg Allman album titled Laid Back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK1QncTz5Nc&feature=related
RW-(the original)
August 20th, 2011
8:47 pm
you might want to think about insults before you use them…
josef,
It’s highly misleading of you to say that I was throwing out insults and even more misleading that you insinuate that as typical of me.
Soothsayer
August 20th, 2011
8:47 pm
Lecithin helps with the acetaldehyde. Just a suggestion.
RW-(the original)
August 20th, 2011
8:48 pm
And it’s misleading of me to leave out the preceding ellipses…my bad.
Jm
August 20th, 2011
8:49 pm
Romney will win in the long run based on how republican primary votes rack up.
If not, this will be very interesting.
josef
August 20th, 2011
8:50 pm
Sooth
Never have had a hangover from G & T! Rum and Coke? Yow! If I could’ve reached the nightstand drawer, I wouldn’t be here to talk about it!
Bruno
August 20th, 2011
8:52 pm
but remind me at SE to tell you why it’s particularly funny to me…
Yeah, yeah, you and your SE promises. Leave me standing at the altar one more time, why don’t you??
Slapstick being one of my favorites…
Slapstick only remains near and dear to me since a high school sweetheart gave it to me for my birthday. I should have schtupped her, but my respect for our mutual innocence stopped me.
My favorite Vonnegut works are “The Sirens of Titan” and “God Bless You Mr. Rosewater.” Jerry Garcia named his publishing company “Ice-Nine” in deference to Vonnegut. He obtained the movie rights to “Sirens of Titan” but never completed the project before his death in 1995.
josef
August 20th, 2011
8:54 pm
RW
D*mn! You’re beginning to sound like the Imam…I never once said YOU threw the insult…someone else did and I actually was giving you credit for challenging it…and where, for the love of G-d, did I insinuate it was “typical” of you? I would think that you know by now I don’t insinuate. I leave that to the Imams. Believe me, did I think it were typical of you, I’d've said so…
Brosephus
August 20th, 2011
8:54 pm
Bro, How can you lose ground if your on Welfare and don’t have a job? Do you think that the people living in the ( hood ) have it better now than 10 or 20 years ago?
Easy, lose welfare. Then you don’t have jack sh*t. If the GOP crusaded for ending welfare by expanding job opportunities for ALL Americans, they’d find a more sympathetic ear in “da hood”.
Bruno
It goes much deeper than race. It’s all about economics. There are more Whites on welfare than there are Blacks, yet anytime welfare is mentioned, it’s always the Cadillac driving, cell phone having, nails done, living in the projects person who’s identified with welfare. It’s never the other groups who subsist on welfare.
The GOP could remove ALL race, and unless they address the economic disparity, they will still come up short on support from Blacks. Trust me, there are many who know that Republicans were the party behind the Civil Rights and slavery stuff. The Republicans of yesteryear would not have a chair at the table with the current GOP. Until the current GOP addresses that, it’s still a loss.
AmVet
August 20th, 2011
8:55 pm
Damn man, that was some bodacious cerebral comedy at 8:44. And I’m not easily impressed.
During the current economic downturn, for example, black families have been hit much harder than white families.
Am I missing something, my bruhva? But isn’t that always the case?
Apparently, a Democratic-controlled White House and Congress didn’t make any difference.
Of course not. Meet the new boss…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6-wG5LLqE
Soothsayer
August 20th, 2011
8:56 pm
Forgotten Messiah: Just relax, the people from the institute are on their way over. They said for you to just relax and not to resist. That everything is going to be all right! Just stay calm and everything will be all right! OK?
Brosephus
August 20th, 2011
8:57 pm
Do you think that the people living in the ( hood ) have it better now than 10 or 20 years ago?
Forgot to address that question. According to research posted here, there’s more cell phones, flat screen tv’s, playstations, x-boxes, and other crap in the homes of those living in poverty today, so yes, I think they have it much better now than they did 10-20 years ago.
josef
August 20th, 2011
8:57 pm
Bruno
Not to worry about SE and left at the altar…when I can get back to you, you’ll know why…
And Vonnegut…another one I’d have a hard time ordering a list of favorites…
Soothsayerc
August 20th, 2011
8:58 pm
“Rum and Coke? Yow! If I could’ve reached the nightstand drawer, I wouldn’t be here to talk about it!”
How about Bourbon and Coke? Never have been able to touch the stuff since?
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
August 20th, 2011
8:59 pm
Well, I’m bumfuzzled. Didn’t RW get fired? And didn’t Midori call him a deadbeat? So what’s he doing on this blog, instead of working lots of hours to impress his new boss? I guess he ain’t making so many trips to the forest now. He’s having to work his butt off to keep a job. He’s learning what Private Innerprize is all about.
The Forgotten Messiah.
August 20th, 2011
8:59 pm
Bruno, I remember that song. It stinks as bad now as it did back then. This is why people, who think and act and respond to stimulie, like you, (and you are good, good, good peoples), who know not what you do, ruined the seventies, just ask John Lennon about that, oh, damn, you folks done kilt ‘im.
WhatRtheodds If only you had realized how bad the music you loved stunk.
Darn.
josef
August 20th, 2011
9:03 pm
As for Forgotten…shoo-eee talk about your stream of (un)consciousness…hope it’s not a Tank and tonic talking…
Brosephus…
When, oh when, are folks going to get it through their thick skulls. I guess if you call it class, you a comuniss, Ignatius, so call it race and be a good party line liberal or conservative…
RW-(the original)
August 20th, 2011
9:04 pm
josef,
When you told me I should think before I throw out insults it reads to me exactly like what I said it does.
Now dammit, get back to the other question about what’s on tap for this evening. Is everybody planning to get bombed and raid some other random blog again?
AmVet
August 20th, 2011
9:04 pm
Never mind, the cerebral cat don’t get music. Not really.
Useless factoid, Chapman was a big fan of….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98zq9bsX-Sg
Curious Observer
August 20th, 2011
9:04 pm
Rum and Coke? Yow! If I could’ve reached the nightstand drawer, I wouldn’t be here to talk about it!”/i
Haven’t been able to touch the stuff ever since a trip to Vieques Island during the Bay of Pigs invasion as a young Marine. I threw up until I expected to see my a-hole in the next pile of goo. To this day, I can’t stand the taste of rum. Those CIA and CID people who offered me the stuff did me a big favor.
Soothsayer
August 20th, 2011
9:05 pm
Redneck: you mean RW done got one them “good payin’” jobs for $7.53 a hour?
Now, listen, RW, just ’cause you’re makin’ $7.53 a hour don’t mean you get to get off without payin’ no taxes! If’n you can afford a refrigerator, a macorwave, air-conditioning, and a big-screen television, you can shorely afford to pay more income taxes!
RW-(the original)
August 20th, 2011
9:06 pm
Well, I’m bumfuzzled
RC,
You could have stopped right there and you’d have finally gotten something right.
josef
August 20th, 2011
9:06 pm
Soothsayerc
good one!
Bourbon and coke? Quote Mama, “don’t ruin good bourbon with coke and don’t ruin good coke with bourbon!”
Bruno
August 20th, 2011
9:06 pm
and unless they address the economic disparity, they will still come up short on support from Blacks.
And other than simply handing someone a job because of their race, how do you propose to accomplish that??
From the outside, it appears to me that we need more black leaders like Bill Cosby who try to raise interest in getting a good education, and less leaders like Al Sharpton who only want to claim “We got screwed”. Beat Whitey at his own game through education, I say.
Soothsayer
August 20th, 2011
9:09 pm
The Forgotten Messiah: I just talked with the Institute. The ambulances are very close. They said for you to remain calm and not to resist and everything will be all right. They’re going to put you to bed. Once you have had your meds, you’ll be able to sleep!
AmVet
August 20th, 2011
9:10 pm
Dammit peeps, we’re all racists and bigots. Every last one of us. Trying to quantify it is dumb. Just fight the power. (get it?)
josef rags on him relentlessly but Redneck ain’t no dummy. Anybody who uses the word bumfuzzled is alright.
More power pop sweetness…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXq81-cGJr4&feature=related
Bruno
August 20th, 2011
9:10 pm
when I can get back to you, you’ll know why…
Nevermind, then. I got a feeling some “You just don’t understand the Southern mindset” lecture is in store.
Never mind, the cerebral cat don’t get music. Not really.
JamVet–Please don’t feed the trolls. Just sayin’
Common Sense isn't very Common
August 20th, 2011
9:11 pm
If you are talking economic opportunity I think ALL Americans were better off 20 years ago than today.
Yes there was a hell of a lot of racist crap. But education was available. The education system since then has broken down in many areas due to economic racism.
Meaning local gov’t do not fund inner city schools on an equal basis. As the tax base leaves the city the cities cut services causing businesses to close meaning job loss for the residents.
That is a cycle that must be broken before many will be able to rejoin the economy.
josef
August 20th, 2011
9:11 pm
RW
I can see your point on that one…I stand chastised…but, then, you DID allude to your golf playing buddies…
So, I’ll accept that in that context the term was used within the framework of the per capita IQ 
Seriously, though, I welcomed your question and was responding to it honestly that, yes, “morons” can be educated…
Soothsayer
August 20th, 2011
9:15 pm
The Forgetten Messiah: can you say .44 mag long barrel?
Brosephus
August 20th, 2011
9:15 pm
Bruno
For starters, you can’t beat the sh*t out of somebody, and then claim that you’re doing it for their betterment. Education is the key to breaking the cycle of poverty. If the education doesn’t start in the home, the kid is already a lap down. When you’re scapegoating teachers and the entire education system without offering a better alternative, you’ve put that kid another lap down.
I’m not giving Democrats a free pass either. Perception is reality in the hood. If that young kid doesn’t see a future, he’s not gonna shoot for a future. It goes a long way towards helping someone when you paint a positive image. Calling teachers leeches isn’t gonna cut it.
josef
August 20th, 2011
9:16 pm
ZamVet
You can like him all you want to. There’s no accounting for taste. You can roll a cat t*rd in cracker crumbs, deep fat fry it and call it haute cuisine if you won’t to. Just excuse me if I don’t want any….
Soothsayer
August 20th, 2011
9:16 pm
Jam-man: one of my favorites. This is my (for personal reasons) favorite TR song.
AmVet
August 20th, 2011
9:17 pm
Sorry, B. Sometimes the spectacle of doing so is hard to resist…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY3g_c8QUas
Bruno
August 20th, 2011
9:17 pm
BTW, Am–You may want to hold off on that “smart” comment you made to me earlier. I picked Cleveland over Detroit tonight. Now I need Texas to win to just break even.
More power pop sweetness…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3KeiPjbgcE
RW-(the original)
August 20th, 2011
9:20 pm
josef,
I’m not sure we’ve been blogging together long enough for you to realize it, but I seldom use either moron or idiot and never use them to describe someone’s actual mental capabilities. I don’t think Midori was using the word to describe a truly mentally disadvantaged person either.
/and I didn’t really allude to my buddies, I alluded to those damned fools up ahead that take twenty minutes to miss a three foot putt.
Soothsayer
August 20th, 2011
9:23 pm
“I alluded to those damned fools up ahead that take twenty minutes to miss a three foot putt.”
That’s why I don’t play on the weekends.
bail out - too big to fail
August 20th, 2011
9:24 pm
. . . . . no crummy republican left behind.
Bruno
August 20th, 2011
9:25 pm
For starters, you can’t beat the sh*t out of somebody, and then claim that you’re doing it for their betterment.
I thought that was your line after you open up a can of whoop-ass on some perp.
Education is the key to breaking the cycle of poverty. If the education doesn’t start in the home, the kid is already a lap down. When you’re scapegoating teachers and the entire education system without offering a better alternative, you’ve put that kid another lap down.
Buddy, all I’m suggesting is that blacks take a page from the Jewish playbook. Beat your oppressors at their own game by out-succeeding them, no matter how much crap is thrown your way. Excuses and bellyaching won’t do it, nor will even appeals for “fairness’. Whitey can’t do it for you, black man has to do it for himself.
AmVet
August 20th, 2011
9:26 pm
josef, are you suggesting coconuts migrate? Or that I like cat t*rd delights?
Well, I never! His presence here is invaluable. To me the only question is which character in JB’s One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest he plays.
Watched From Here to Eternity for the first time this weekend. Wonderful film. Killer cast.
Killer power pop with a boojy woojy tinged, faux Fab Four edge, B.
And the Braves look for real. They’ve got their hallmark dominant pitching. Bring on some more October baseball, baby!
Might as well stuff yourself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TAzWK7fhd4
josef
August 20th, 2011
9:27 pm
BRUNO
“Nevermind, then. I got a feeling some “You just don’t understand the Southern mindset” lecture is in store”
Not to worry. I’ve long since given up on you with that one. Nanh, this one is far removed from the sectional grievances of the North American empire…just suffice it to say for now that revenge is a dish best served cold!
RW
Like I said, you’re channelling the Bruin on the parsing…go back and read what common sense posted using a set of terms…all I said was “you might want to think about it.” You might.
Bruno
August 20th, 2011
9:28 pm
That’s why I don’t play on the weekends.
No, that’s what hitting into the group in front of you is for. Oh, so sorry, didn’t see you there……..
RW-(the original)
August 20th, 2011
9:30 pm
josef,
I hate backtracking and I’m not about to go search this blog for common sense so with no further adieu or parsing I’ll grant you the last word.
Soothsayer
August 20th, 2011
9:31 pm
Hey, it took me ten shots to reach the green! I’m just getting my money’s worth. Waddya mean, Ranger, speed it up? We’ve only been playing this hole for 45 minutes. Give us a break!
Bruno
August 20th, 2011
9:32 pm
I’ve long since given up on you with that one.
josef made a funny……………
Nanh, this one is far removed from the sectional grievances of the North American empire…just suffice it to say for now that revenge is a dish best served cold!
I can hardly wait.
josef
August 20th, 2011
9:32 pm
ZamVet
He’s mean spirited. I don’t like that. I don’t like it all. Call it humor if you want to.
AmVet
August 20th, 2011
9:33 pm
Golf stories. I recently hit an eight iron and dropped a beaut of a shot four feet from the hole and damn if it started tracking right for it! And stopped a golf pencil short.
Still no aces…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=510NrIUW-zA&feature=related
Brosephus
August 20th, 2011
9:35 pm
Bruno
That’s already happening. Warren Ballentine, a talk-radio host, has already started a project to get Blacks to invest in Black businesses. I don’t agree with the overall picture that paints, but that’s how every group has risen above poverty. You have to help yourself before you help others.
At one point, Black America was #1 when it came to spending power, mostly due to the lack of investment and/or saving. At the same time, Blacks were running away from Black owned/operated businesses by the train load. When you have that kind of economic power and don’t use it to your advantage, you’ll never come out ahead. There’s some up and coming younger people who will probably push the economic agenda. Cosby and his group does a great job addressing the social aspects, but even they do or say nothing about the economic stuff.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
August 20th, 2011
9:35 pm
Likened to cat doo-doo rolled in cracker crumbs? This means war!
AmVet
August 20th, 2011
9:37 pm
“He’s mean spirited.”
OH?! That explains it!
Like nobody else here is, huh? (Occasionally including a couple of MOTs who come to mind.)
If he’s mean spirited, I’m a monster.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sidm9Lwc_64&feature=related
Soothsayer
August 20th, 2011
9:37 pm
HOW DOES IT FEEL?
Bruno
August 20th, 2011
9:40 pm
I hate backtracking and I’m not about to go search this blog for common sense so with no further adieu or parsing I’ll grant you the last word.
JamVet–Deja vu all over again, eh??
Sorry, couldn’t resist.
josef
August 20th, 2011
9:44 pm
RW
If you want me to have the last word, this is it…
Paulo posted…
“Paulo977
August 20th, 2011
4:40 pm
Josef
that’s the thing with the English language , there are shades of meaning attached to words – sometimes defined as denotation and connotation . I am not sure that MORON , in the context it was used , referred to any type of retardation but rather to a lazy mental disposition that refused to figure things out…IMHO”
I responded…
“josef
August 20th, 2011
4:45 pm
PAULO
With all due respect we could say the same thing about “n*gger rich,” “Jew somebody down,” “Indian giver…” “gypsy cabs,” and an endless list of others, some of which we use freely and without a second thought, others which receive a round condemnation should they make their appearance.”
Common sense then put it far more succinctly than I ever could…
“Common Sense isn’t very Common
August 20th, 2011
4:51 pm
I had to Jew down a gypsy cab driver to take me to my hotel. he was n*gger rich so I didn’t feel bad about being an Indian giver when I promised him a tip and didn’t give him one.
like George Carlin I tried to use ALL of the most offensive terms. But I used them all in one sentence.”
Bruno
August 20th, 2011
9:45 pm
Golf stories. I recently hit an eight iron and dropped a beaut of a shot four feet from the hole and damn if it started tracking right for it! And stopped a golf pencil short.
I can top that one, Am. I nearly hit a hole in one down at the Tup Holmes course several years ago. Out of nowhere, some guy runs onto the green, picks up my ball, and skeedaddles. Being from Jersey, I tracked the mofo down and made him hand it back over with the threat of permanently installing a 4 iron into his skull.
Still no aces…
The closest I got was a lip out.
Common Sense isn't very Common
August 20th, 2011
9:45 pm
It’s impossible to find common sense here LOL