Perry: We would treat Bernanke ‘pretty ugly down in Texas’

“If this guy prints more money between now and the election, I don’t know what y’all would do to him in Iowa, but we — we would treat him pretty ugly down in Texas. Printing more money to play politics at this particular time in American history is almost treacherous — or treasonous in my opinion.”

– Texas Gov. Rick Perry,
speaking of Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke

I wonder how that phrase “treat him pretty ugly” translates into English from the original Texan? In talking about “what y’all would do to him,” I don’t think Perry means passing some proclamation of disapproval in the state Legislature. It sounds more personal, and more physical.

The man who got a “D” in economics at Texas A&M seems to be threatening the man who graduated from Harvard summa cum laude in economics and completed his doctoral work in economics at MIT.

And those other words, “treacherous” and “treasonous.”

Pretty serious talk there, governor. Those aren’t words to be flung about lightly by someone who aspires to hold the highest office in the land. Perry comes into the race with a reputation as a cowboy politician without much depth or sophistication, ready to shoot from the hip without regard for consequences. And he doesn’t seem too interested in dispelling it.


– Jay Bookman

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F. N. Sandwich

August 16th, 2011
8:32 am

And he’s a bully too!!!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 16th, 2011
8:33 am

Hmmmm….seems Texans love to talk big….”Bring it on”. Didn’t work out too well for the other Texas buffoon either.

stands for decibels

August 16th, 2011
8:33 am

Lord, you don’t know I ask for much, but I’m asking you now.

Please let the GOP nominate Rick Perry as their candidate for President.

Jm

August 16th, 2011
8:34 am

Perry, not my preference.

Plus I haven’t a clue what the guy believes

Peadawg

August 16th, 2011
8:35 am

“Printing more money to play politics at this particular time in American history is almost treacherous — or treasonous in my opinion.”

He has a point there.

Brad Steel

August 16th, 2011
8:35 am

Just what America needs, another slow-witted, loud-mouth, god-hearing Texan.

Thank you GOP for evolving.

Brad Steel

August 16th, 2011
8:36 am

He has a point there.

he should cover it up with a hat.

Finn McCool

August 16th, 2011
8:37 am

I think he is thinking something along the lines of he would be Zed in the “Zed in the basement with Marcellus Wallace” scene from Pulp Fiction. And after he would finish wrecking our economy, the Democrats would have to get some pipe-swinging guys to go all medieval on Perry.

USinUK

August 16th, 2011
8:38 am

Economic policy = treason

oh, yeah

way to elevate the dialogue, Perry

like we really need 4 years of “yer either fer us or agin’ us”

Aquagirl

August 16th, 2011
8:39 am

I’m sure Gov. Perry meant “hold a big wingnut prayer meeting in a stadium for him.”

Debbie Dooley

August 16th, 2011
8:39 am

There is no way he would get us into another war – would he?

Jm

August 16th, 2011
8:40 am

Perry pointing out that printing money is not the path to prosperity is true. I just don’t think the guy believes it.

I can read romney. Perry is a black box that might contain dynamite.

Normal

August 16th, 2011
8:41 am

God help me, Perry is either a younger Newt or a cow pie…I’ll leave it for you to decide…I’m out.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 16th, 2011
8:41 am

jewcowboy

August 16th, 2011
8:42 am

Is this before or after Texas secedes from the Union?

Normal

August 16th, 2011
8:42 am

Debbie Dooley

August 16th, 2011
8:39 am

Yes, and his side would be dressed in gray.

Now I’m gone

Bosch

August 16th, 2011
8:42 am

We’ve had our fill of cowboy wannabe Governors of Texas.

Jm

August 16th, 2011
8:43 am

Ah. Me and Warren both bulking up on WFC

Finn McCool

August 16th, 2011
8:43 am

Well, when you consider that a large number of Republican voters think a country’s finances should be managed identically to a family’s finances, you can see he speaks their language.

“Heck, if ima spendin’ more an I earn, I quit spendin. Simple as that.”

jt

August 16th, 2011
8:44 am

BrokeBack cowboy maybe.

carlosgvv

August 16th, 2011
8:44 am

This kind of “shoot from the hip” talk got us eight years of George W. Bush. Since the far right appears now to be more numerous and certainly dumber, now might be a good time to start practicing saying “President Perry”.

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 16th, 2011
8:44 am

You know Perry must be a threat to Obama. The left is bashing this guy 24-7.

Jm

August 16th, 2011
8:45 am

Transit list finalized. Hope you chose wisely….

jewcowboy

August 16th, 2011
8:45 am

Bosch,

“We’ve had our fill of cowboy wannabe Governors of Texas.”

Yeah…I heard him speaking on NPR on yesterday, and for a moment I really did think it was W.

USinUK

August 16th, 2011
8:45 am

“Is this before or after Texas secedes from the Union?”

the rest of them can go (with the exception of Paul) – just leave us Austin!

ByteMe

August 16th, 2011
8:45 am

I see a flame-out in Perry’s future. Between now and then, this could be more fun than The Donald’s fake Presidential run.

Bosch

August 16th, 2011
8:46 am

“You know Perry must be a threat to Obama. The left is bashing this guy 24-7.”

Seriously Leg, don’t y’all get tired of saying the same ol’ stuff?

ByteMe

August 16th, 2011
8:46 am

You know Perry must be a threat to Obama. The left is bashing this guy 24-7.

So Lamp goes with the “that which you ridicule must be about fear” meme. Sad. How about instead “that which you ridicule is ridiculous” instead?

Peadawg

August 16th, 2011
8:47 am

In Liberals’ world money don’t grow on trees, it grows on a printing press.

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 16th, 2011
8:47 am

By the way, Jay, congrats on making the top of the picture totem pole in the “Opinion” summary section.

Now if you could just find a way to get CT’s ugly mug off the bottom. I thought her last piece of garbage, “Herman Cain’s Bigotry”, really reflected her outlook on life.

jewcowboy

August 16th, 2011
8:47 am

Bosch

August 16th, 2011
8:48 am

“By the way, Jay, congrats on making the top of the picture totem pole in the “Opinion” summary section”

Funny Leg, I had the same thought this morning. :)

1811/0311

August 16th, 2011
8:48 am

Jay:

Maybe you should go back and read some of the words/language our founding fathers used.

They weren’t very wimpy or kind either.

“Occasionally the tree of Liberty must be watered with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants.”

Thomas Jefferson

jewcowboy

August 16th, 2011
8:48 am

“You know Perry must be a threat to Obama. The left is bashing this guy 24-7.”

Didn’t you say the same thing about Palin?

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 16th, 2011
8:48 am

Bosch
August 16th, 2011
8:46 am

Ha! Comments like this just drive the left crazy. Look, I’ve received multiple bashes in just a minute or two.

Talking Head

August 16th, 2011
8:48 am

Well Perry may have gotten a D in his econ class in school, and Bernake may have gotten degrees with honors from Ivy League schools, but Bernake’s “Ivy League” education hasn’t done a whole lot of good for our country so far, and his policies have deflated our dollar.

@@

August 16th, 2011
8:49 am

Printing more money to play politics at this particular time in American history is almost treacherous — or treasonous in my opinion.”

Silly, jay!

“Almost” is not definitive.

Let us know when calling a grassroots movement of concerned Americans “terrorists” IS acceptable. Your dem leaders have done THAT more times than I care to mention.

1811/0311

August 16th, 2011
8:49 am

“Obama is victim of Bush’s failed promises”

“Barack Obama is setting a record-setting number of records during his first term in office:

Largest budget ever. Largest deficit ever. Largest number of broken promises ever. Most self-serving speeches ever. Largest number of agenda-setting failures ever. Fastest dive in popularity ever.

Wow! Talk about change…

Just over a year ago, fresh from his inauguration celebrations, President Obama was flying high. After one of the nation’s most inspiring political campaigns, the election of America ’s first black president had captured the hopes and dreams of millions. To his devout followers, it was inconceivable that one year later his administration would be gripped in a self-imposed crisis.

Of course, they don’t see it as self-imposed. It’s all George Bush’s fault.

George Bush, who doesn’t have a vote in congress and who no longer occupies the White House, is to blame for it all.

He broke Obama’s promise to put all bills on the White House web site for five days before signing them.

He broke Obama’s promise to have the congressional health care negotiations broadcast live on C-SPAN.

He broke Obama’s promise to end earmarks.

He broke Obama’s promise to keep unemployment from rising above 8 percent.

He broke Obama’s promise to close the detention center at Guantanamo in the first year.

He broke Obama’s promise to make peace with direct, no precondition talks with America ’s most hate-filled enemies during his first year in office, ushering in a new era of global cooperation.

He broke Obama’s promise to end the hiring of former lobbyists into high White House jobs.

He broke Obama’s promise to end no-compete contracts with the government.

He broke Obama’s promise to disclose the names of all attendees at closed White House meetings.

He broke Obama’s promise for a new era of bipartisan cooperation in all matters.

He broke Obama’s promise to have chosen a home church to attend Sunday services with his family by Easter of last year.

Yes, it’s all George Bush’s fault. President Obama is nothing more than a puppet in the never-ending failed Bush administration.

If only George Bush wasn’t still in charge, all of President Obama’s problems would be solved.”

Bosch

August 16th, 2011
8:49 am

jewcowboy,

Yeap. All the DNC has to do in it’s commercials is run his picture next to Bush’s. It worked for Saxby, so why not use their same medicine?

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 16th, 2011
8:49 am

jewcowboy
August 16th, 2011
8:48 am

Nope, don’t believe so. Unless I’ve been in a 3-year fog, I don’t ever remember Palin running for President.

ByteMe

August 16th, 2011
8:49 am

Look, I’ve received multiple bashes in just a minute or two.

Awwww, self-pity much?

Paul

August 16th, 2011
8:50 am

Treacherous? Treasonous?

From the prior thread:

Bush believed the Union should be preserved. Perry’s a man with no honor who muses about secession. (and he calls others treasonous?)

Bush was honest in acknowledging the assistance Texas received from Washington. Perry is a misleading liar who took $6 billion in federal funds then attacked Washington for providing the money. Then sued to get more. (and he calls others treacherous?)

jewcowboy

August 16th, 2011
8:50 am

USinUK,

“the rest of them can go (with the exception of Paul) – just leave us Austin!”

I’m willing to sacrifice Austin…just not Paul. We’ll have an amnesty policy for critical thinkers…

Bosch

August 16th, 2011
8:50 am

No Leg, they don’t. It doesn’t drive us crazy, it’s just annoying that everytime someone forms a criticism, you equate that to “fear.”

Doggone/GA

August 16th, 2011
8:51 am

“In Liberals’ world money don’t grow on trees, it grows on a printing press”

Does that really mean that in the world of the conned it DOES grow on trees?

Peadawg

August 16th, 2011
8:51 am

1811/0311, don’t forget it was Bush who got Osama also.

Oh wait…it’s just the bad things that Bush gets blamed for. Got it. ;)

Jm

August 16th, 2011
8:51 am

Finn. At the end of the day, national budgets and family budgets do work fundamentally the same.

It’s a delusion of the left that they somehow work differently.

ty webb

August 16th, 2011
8:51 am

who knew Jay took such an interest in college transcripts?

Bosch

August 16th, 2011
8:51 am

“Didn’t you say the same thing about Palin?”

And Bachmann, and Romney, and Trump, and every other R candidate for the past 8 years.

Doggone/GA

August 16th, 2011
8:52 am

“and his policies have deflated our dollar”

Which is actually a GOOD thing. Gives the dollar more buying power on the world market.

ByteMe

August 16th, 2011
8:52 am

It’s a delusion of the left that they somehow work differently.

Actually, it’s a delusion of the simple-minded that equates a nation’s budget with a family budget.

Jay

August 16th, 2011
8:52 am

Actually, Talking Head, the dollar today is about where it was in 2007 against the euro, for example, and above where it was for much of 2008.

It declined steadily through much of the Bush years.

Finn McCool

August 16th, 2011
8:52 am

In Liberals’ world money don’t grow on trees, it grows on a printing press.

Ummm, yeah Peadawg, that would be correct. I bet that’s not what you had in mind to imply. By the way, what world do you live in? Never Never land?

mwuahahahahhaha

jewcowboy

August 16th, 2011
8:52 am

“Comments like this just drive the left crazy”

Maybe because it is so obtuse…

jt

August 16th, 2011
8:53 am

I see now that Bookman is at the top of the page, his censorship kicks in.
.
What I mentioned is a legitimate issue when it can be used for blackmail..
.
AJC Pravda.

Peadawg

August 16th, 2011
8:53 am

“Does that really mean that in the world of the conned it DOES grow on trees?” – Tree, printing press what’s the difference? Both parties have been spending like crazy the past 10+ years. It needs to end.

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 16th, 2011
8:53 am

Bosch
August 16th, 2011
8:50 am

“someone forms a criticism”

Is that the new catch phrase for the commercial showing a man in a suit dumping an elderdly woman in a wheelchair off a cliff?

Bosch

August 16th, 2011
8:53 am

“Your dem leaders have done THAT more times than I care to mention”

Yeah, I think once. :roll:

That’s the problem with many wingnuts, they think one time equals many and if it happened to them or a friend of theirs it is the absolute belief of all who they fit into that category.

Backwards thinking….at best.

ty webb

August 16th, 2011
8:54 am

“it’s just annoying that everytime someone forms a criticism, you equate that to “fear’.”

yeah, because it’s so much better to equate criticism to “racism”.

USinUK

August 16th, 2011
8:54 am

“Awwww, self-pity much?”

more like self-aggrandizement … SSDD

ByteMe

August 16th, 2011
8:54 am

Which is actually a GOOD thing. Gives the dollar more buying power on the world market.

This is the hardest thing for most people to understand. A weaker dollar increases our ability to EXPORT (because foreign entities will buy our products and pay us in those cheaper dollars, which are not cheaper to us, only to them) and that puts Americans to work.

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 16th, 2011
8:54 am

jewcowboy
August 16th, 2011
8:52 am

“obtuse”

Was “The Shawshank Redemption” on TV last night?

Jay

August 16th, 2011
8:56 am

Put down the victim card, jt. Your comment got caught in the autospam catcher, and has now been released.

Finn McCool

August 16th, 2011
8:56 am

1811,
It’s considered polite and ethical to list the source when you cut and paste someone elses work as you did in your 8:49.

Bosch

August 16th, 2011
8:56 am

“yeah, because it’s so much better to equate criticism to “racism”.”

Yeah ty, a charge that no one here has ever been able to demonstrate. It’s a myth swimming around in your bourbon soaked head. :)

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 16th, 2011
8:57 am

ty webb
August 16th, 2011
8:54 am

Boo yah!!!

ty webb

August 16th, 2011
8:57 am

Bosch,
I resemble that remark.

jewcowboy

August 16th, 2011
8:57 am

“Was “The Shawshank Redemption” on TV last night?”

Not a clue…I don’t own a tv.

El Jefe

August 16th, 2011
8:57 am

one of the powers bestowed on congress is found in article I, section 8 – it reads something like this -

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

Technically only Congress can regulate the money system. But, since they gave up that power to an autonomous entity. I would say that Congress is in deep trouble.

At least Perry is speaking plain English and not some mumble-jumbo Washington speak. The fed is out of control.

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 16th, 2011
8:57 am

Jay
August 16th, 2011
8:56 am

How can he put down the victim card since Obama has had a monopoly on the thing since January 2009.

Finn McCool

August 16th, 2011
8:59 am

Byteme,

It isn’t that they can’t understand that very simple and very rel concept, it’s that “weaker” isn’t palatable to them when the other choice is “stronger”. Why ask them to go further and uderstand the concept behind the terms, that’s too much work.

Hey, Turn on the American Idol while you’re up!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 16th, 2011
9:00 am

Finn… do you have to attribute those crazy emails he cuts and pastes?

jewcowboy

August 16th, 2011
9:00 am

“How can he put down the victim card since Obama has had a monopoly on the thing since January 2009.”

Actually, I would say the christian right has been playing it quite heavily for a while now…

Bill Orvis White

August 16th, 2011
9:01 am

Liberal Jay and his friends like Hussein Downgrade Obama just don’t get it. We all need to look to and respect what Texas has accomplished and practices. Texas is one of the best states in the country if not THE best state in the nation: strong economic growth, low/no taxation, a culture of life, good eating, good weather and a good place to visit. In Texas, a man can move there, set up a business and become successful because big gov’t does not get in the way!

Now, the honorable Governor Perry is right. We can’t keep taxing, spending and printing out money. I love this man because he is telling it like it is and very few folk do that these days.

I see a man of high moral character and leadership. I would be humbled if Governor Perry rightfully becomes president.

Amen,
Bill

ByteMe

August 16th, 2011
9:02 am

it’s that “weaker” isn’t palatable to them when the other choice is “stronger”.

I also blame successive administrations who have all paid homage to the “strong dollar good!” concept because increasing imports increased the standard of living around the world and decreased the possibility of us getting involved in a war with our bigger trading partners. However, it caused us to export our manufacturing jobs, which turned out to be a stupid thing to do. Now we have to do something different.

Granny Godzilla

August 16th, 2011
9:03 am

From Steve Benen

“I argued the other day that so-called “savior candidates,” who jump into the presidential race late, tend to do very poorly, at least in part because they don’t have the luxury of working out the kinks away from the spotlight. Every candidate needs time to get better — on the stump, in interviews, in debates, in engaging with diverse national voters directly — but so-called saviors are forced to be polished and proficient immediately.

And yet, here’s Perry, suggesting a Fed chairman doing his job is acting in a treasonous way, attacking the president’s patriotism, and suggesting that ironing is women’s work — all on his first weekday as a candidate.

It’s certainly possible that Republican voters will swoon and find Perry’s nonsense endearing, but at this point, the Texas governor has only reinforced fears he’s little more than a thuggish buffoon.”

an inauspicious first day to be sure

Jm

August 16th, 2011
9:03 am

Byteme 8:52 prove it

Bosch

August 16th, 2011
9:03 am

“I see a man of high moral character and leadership.”

So, now the definition of “high moral character” to the wingnuts is a guy who speaks out of two sides of his mouth?

Weird.

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 16th, 2011
9:04 am

jewcowboy
August 16th, 2011
9:00 am

Nah, Obama owns the victim card.

“Obama: I reversed recession until ‘bad luck’ hit”

Notice his use of “I”, then it was “bad luck”. And this from a POTUS. Wow, just wow.

Talking Head

August 16th, 2011
9:04 am

“It declined steadily through much of the Bush years.”

translation…when Bernake become chairman of the Fed in 2006

Granny Godzilla

August 16th, 2011
9:04 am

Bill Orvis White

We have all seen the Perry talking points, now tell us….

do they really stand up to scrutiny or have fact checkers all over the nation been having a field day?

JohnnyReb

August 16th, 2011
9:05 am

I am supremely guilty of bashing Obama on these pages and will continue to do so, or at least until I am blocked. Turnabout is fair play, so have your fun.

I can’t wait until Perry is nominated and choses Palin as the VP. Can you say…Progressive Meltdown!

ByteMe

August 16th, 2011
9:05 am

Jm @ 9:03, prove what? That the idea of comparing the national budget to a household budget is simple-minded? Or that it’s a delusion? Or that there are not green men flying around the solar system look for conservatives to help lead them to the next level?

All depends on what your definition of “it” is. :)

Bosch

August 16th, 2011
9:06 am

“Can you say…Progressive Meltdown!”

Reb,

Can you say “President Obama” until 2016?

ByteMe

August 16th, 2011
9:07 am

I can’t wait until Perry is nominated and choses Palin as the VP. Can you say…Progressive Meltdown!

I don’t speak for “The Daily Show”, but I’ll bet that’s one of their wet dreams.

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 16th, 2011
9:07 am

ByteMe
August 16th, 2011
9:05 am

“All depends on what your definition of “it” is.”

How Clintonesque of you….. :lol:

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 16th, 2011
9:07 am

Paul

August 16th, 2011
9:07 am

“I can’t wait until Perry is nominated and choses Palin as the VP. Can you say…”

Progressive Heaven?

Jay

August 16th, 2011
9:08 am

Why would you be blocked, JohnnyReb?

Southern Comfort

August 16th, 2011
9:08 am

Paul

Read your summary on Perry downstairs. Enuff Said!!!!

Adam

August 16th, 2011
9:08 am

No, treason is attempting to destroy government. Which is basically what you advocate for when you cater to the anarchist wing of the Tea Party wing of the Republican Party (way out there on the tip of the wing with a megaphone). Things like “Social Security and Medicare are unconstitutional!” show pretty clearly that the speaker of those words doesn’t understand what the word “unconstitutional” means.

ByteMe

August 16th, 2011
9:08 am

How Clintonesque of you

Excellent of you to catch that. :)

Granny Godzilla

August 16th, 2011
9:08 am

JohnnyReb

From your lips to God’s ears….

Perry/Palin

WAHOO! Please oh please oh please

Bosch

August 16th, 2011
9:09 am

“Why would you be blocked, JohnnyReb?”

I think jewcowboy summed it up nicely, Jay.

“Actually, I would say the christian right has been playing it quite heavily for a while now…

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 16th, 2011
9:09 am

ByteMe
August 16th, 2011
9:08 am

I try to stay up on issues of high importance and strategery!!!

JohnnyReb

August 16th, 2011
9:09 am

Bosch, if it was allowed, we could run W again and win. The puzzling thing is why Dems are not reving up a challenge to Barry in the primaries. He’s done.

Left wing management

August 16th, 2011
9:09 am

If anything, it’s surprising we haven’t seen more of this type of bluster.

As we saw weeks ago with Trump, there’s an ocean of anger and confusion to be exploited by any mountebank who wants to start putting these issues in more direct terms, to motivate the ignorant to take a position about issues that are too complex for them to understand.

I expect to see much more of this in the years to come — from both left and right.

Peadawg

August 16th, 2011
9:09 am

Can you say “President Bush” until 2016?

Fixed your typo, Bosch. That is unless Obama actually does something different from his predecessor anytime you soon…you know…that hope and change he kept spewing out of his anus to get votes?

Bosch

August 16th, 2011
9:11 am

ByteMe,

Really, all you have to do to “prove it” is ask for an example of any American family’s budget that is one of the catalyst of the global economy.

Adam

August 16th, 2011
9:11 am

Printing more money doesn’t do a whole lot of good to the value of the dollar. But it also isn’t something being seriously proposed as some sort of liberal land catch all for the country’s economic ills.

The entire concept of money, completely divorced from any physical object equating it to value, means that it can be inflated or deflated artificially and money doesn’t even really exist except for the power we all give it. Resources don’t even enter into the equation of wealth anymore.