New revelations may threaten Murdoch empire

The scandal in Britain over phone hacking and other illegal actions by News Corp. editors and reporters has already had serious consequences for the company, including the resignation of prominent corporate officials, the closing of a major newspaper and testimony under pressure by Rupert Murdoch and others before Parliament.

But all of that may eventually seem minor compared to what’s ahead. Evidence released by a parliamentary committee, including letters from a News Corp. reporter and the company’s legal firm, could end up producing criminal charges against James Murdoch and others.

If backed by supporting evidence, the revelations threaten the Murdoch empire.

As The Guardian reports:

“The letters from Goodman and from the London law firm Harbottle & Lewis are among a cache of paperwork published by the Commons culture, media and sport select committee. One committee member, the Labour MP Tom Watson, said Goodman’s letter was “absolutely devastating”. He said: “Clive Goodman’s letter is the most significant piece of evidence that has been revealed so far. It completely removes News International’s defence. This is one of the largest cover-ups I have seen in my lifetime.”

– Jay Bookman

979 comments Add your comment

saywhat?

August 16th, 2011
12:09 pm

I’m shocked. Karma is a bitch.

TaxPayer

August 16th, 2011
12:13 pm

Madoff needs a roomy. Murdoch would be perfect.

Granny Godzilla

August 16th, 2011
12:14 pm

Couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch.

JOE C00L

August 16th, 2011
12:17 pm

I agree with u GG!

carlosgvv

August 16th, 2011
12:20 pm

Rupert Murcoch is a true “Big Business” figure who has shown he will not hesitate to use his money to buy as many politicians as possible. It looks as though the British have the gumption to actually hold him to the law. I have to wonder, I just can’t help but wonder, if we in America will show the same resolve.

Paulo977

August 16th, 2011
12:21 pm

saywhat?

August 16th, 2011
12:09 pm
“I’m shocked. Karma is a bitch.”

Does work … even for sceptics!!!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 16th, 2011
12:21 pm

And given the computer hacking that appears to have taken place in the US as well as the US involvement in the UK hacking (and possibly US), the rats will continue to flee the sinking ship. Real criminal investigations will likely lead to other charges including bribery.

RB from Gwinnett

August 16th, 2011
12:22 pm

“I’m shocked. Karma is a bitch.”

Ask Dan Rather…

RB from Gwinnett

August 16th, 2011
12:22 pm

“I’m shocked. Karma is a bitch.”

Ask the AJC as it fails at double the national average…

RB from Gwinnett

August 16th, 2011
12:24 pm

“I’m shocked. Karma is a bitch.”

Ask all the liberal biased major news networks as they fight over the scraps left in their ratings crumbs.

USinUK

August 16th, 2011
12:27 pm

alls I can say is

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha

(and Jay, could you please rerun your picture of Murdoch as Mr Burns?)

USinUK

August 16th, 2011
12:27 pm

awwwwwwwwwwwwww … poor RB …

how are those grapes??

sour???

Left wing management

August 16th, 2011
12:28 pm

If backed by supporting evidence, the revelations threaten the Murdoch empire.

It can be a beautiful thing when bad things happen to bad people.

Ssssssssssssssschadenfreudeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

AmVet

August 16th, 2011
12:29 pm

Man I love the smell of neo-con red herrings around lunch time! Especially that yummy CBS variety!

Utterly devoid of integrity themselves, these GOP’s Party First, Party Last, Party Always boys will never, ever, ever denounce the criminality and sleaziness of their Republican overlords.

(It might endanger their chances at getting some of Ronnie’s trickled on…..down.)

poison pen

August 16th, 2011
12:31 pm

If the man & his co-horts are guilty they belong in jail. A crook is a crook, regardless of the party and all should be held accountable.

RB from Gwinnett

August 16th, 2011
12:31 pm

“how are those grapes??

sour???”

Not at all. If they broke the law, they should pay the price for it.

And Fox News will continue to dominate news outlets in this country. So, what’s all the glee about?

Normal

August 16th, 2011
12:32 pm

TaxPayer

August 16th, 2011
12:13 pm
Madoff needs a roomy. Murdoch would be perfect.

Yeah, I like it…the M&M boys…but which one will be blue and which one will be yellow? ;)

Left wing management

August 16th, 2011
12:32 pm

By the way, when Obama has suggested that he was willing to be a one term president if that’s what it meant to do the right thing, he was apparently lying to himself and/or to us.

Herein lies the problem

When you are arguing that deficit reduction — less spending — creates jobs because it’s politically expedient to make this point and you care more about votes than fixing the economy, the truth can be uncomfortable. Is it so hard to explain that yes, in the long-run deficit reduction can be helpful. When the economy is near full employment and the demand for investment funding is high, the government’s use of funds to finance its deficit can slow investment activity. Near full employment, government spending can crowd out private investment so we need a long-run plan for deficit reduction.

But presently, with so much idle capacity and with so much liquidity looking unsuccessfully for a place to earn profits, no such fear exists. Government spending won’t crowd out private sector investment, it will provide a needed net addition to output and provide jobs for struggling households. Borrowing costs are extraordinarily cheap and there are plenty of infrastructure needs for the government to invest in, so it’s not as though we wouldn’t get something of value for our money over and above the needed help it provides to working class households. It’s a short-run and a long-run win.

http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2011/08/herein-lies-the-problem.html

Normal

August 16th, 2011
12:33 pm

“And Fox News will continue to dominate news outlets in this country. So, what’s all the glee about?”

Maybe after Murdoch is forced to sell, Fox News will be owned by MSNBC… :lol: :lol: :lol:

jt

August 16th, 2011
12:34 pm

The MSM Press should worry about the The Federalies tapping phone lines on private citizens instead of concentrating on eating their own.
.
Oh wait……………..we have had no press……….since 9/11.
.
OBL won.

USinUK

August 16th, 2011
12:35 pm

“Not at all.”

yeah. which is why you immediately started channeling a 7-year-old “oh, YEAH, well the AJC is fat and smells funny”

mmmmmmmm … grapey sourness … sour grapeyness …

USinUK

August 16th, 2011
12:36 pm

Normal – 12:33 –

no.

the ultimate would be if it was bought by Mother Jones.

now, THAT would cause heads to a’splode.

RB from Gwinnett

August 16th, 2011
12:38 pm

“Maybe after Murdoch is forced to sell, Fox News will be owned by MSNBC… ”

Isn’t it pretty standard for dictatorships and communist countries to control all of the news outlets???? Anybody else notice the similarities to the wishes of the liberals here?

Uncle Jed

August 16th, 2011
12:42 pm

Maybe after Murdoch is forced to sell, Fox News will be owned by MSNBC…

The liberal dream…no balance or dissention in the media. Back in the USSR….

Adam

August 16th, 2011
12:43 pm

Hmmm, I don’t think enough evidence is provided in the article to support the assertion. I was expecting something along the lines of 9/11 hacking.

Then again, maybe in the UK they actually make criminal charges stick to the rich and powerful.

USinUK

August 16th, 2011
12:43 pm

“Isn’t it pretty standard for dictatorships and communist countries to control all of the news outlets????”

:lol:

and HOW many outlets does Murdoch own???

http://www.nationaljournal.com/tech/news-corp-scandal-adds-fuel-to-u-s-media-ownership-debate-20110718

please, RB – clutch your pearls elsewhere – your feigned concern about media ownerships smacks of melodrama

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 16th, 2011
12:44 pm

Isn’t it pretty standard for dictatorships and communist countries to control all of the news outlets???? Anybody else notice the similarities to the wishes of the liberals here?

I think I would focus more on the lies, disinformation and distortions of the government controlled news organizatons. You know like being told that news reporters must use certain terms or unbalanced and unfair reporting, or being soft on those they “like” ….why I do know one news organization that seems to demonstrate these traits rather consistently.

Adam

August 16th, 2011
12:44 pm

Uncle Jed: Maybe after Murdoch is forced to sell, Fox News will be owned by MSNBC…

The liberal dream…no balance or dissention in the media. Back in the USSR….

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USinUK

August 16th, 2011
12:45 pm

Adam – the letters support the assertion that the senior management KNEW about the phone hacking (which, up until now, they’ve been pleading innocent to … rather like the “few bad apples” ruse in Abu Ghraib)

Jefferson

August 16th, 2011
12:47 pm

Money is above the law.

Adam

August 16th, 2011
12:47 pm

USinUK: I see that. But because I’m American I have little faith in the rich and powerful to be made to account for anything criminal. If criminal charges stick, I may be needing some information on how to move over to your side of the pond :)

@@

August 16th, 2011
12:48 pm

Makes ‘ya wonder why the dems didn’t go after corporate heads in this country, don’t it? Losing the guy who “pushed” the snowball don’t make the snowball any smaller.

schnirt

From downstairs:

Ryan for President?
Paul Ryan is in the final stages of deciding on a presidential run.

AWESOME! If only to position himself as a potential V.P. candidate.

A Bill Bennett conservative…it don’t get no better than that!!!!!!

Finn McCool

August 16th, 2011
12:48 pm

Interestingly, while Fox News has the largest audiences for their shows, CNN actually attracts more unique viewers each month. Fox News viewers tend to watch for longer amounts of times ( ie, they are couch taters) which explains how this is possible. Although Fox News dominates the news ratings, it is important to keep in mind they are only getting around 1-1.8% of all households watching TV.

http://fatknowledge.blogspot.com/2006/09/network-nightly-news-vs-cable.html

1-1.8% of all households. “Ohhh, but they stomp the competition!!!!”

That’s like the roaches in your house thinking they are the top roaches everywhere: “We’re number 1, we’re number 1″. Not realizing there’s a gazillion other roaches out there.

Doggone/GA

August 16th, 2011
12:51 pm

“But because I’m American”

so is USinUK

Finn McCool

August 16th, 2011
12:51 pm

Dang, RB was up typing totally po’d at our Kenyan Muslim Socialist President and now he is all paranoid about the media.

To quote a Mike Leigh film:
RB, “what’s it like being you? A bit hectic I bet.”

mm

August 16th, 2011
12:52 pm

“Isn’t it pretty standard for dictatorships and communist countries to control all of the news outlets???? Anybody else notice the similarities to the wishes of the liberals here?”

RB,

Your hack, predictable comments are getting stale. Find some new material.

Schrodinger's cat

August 16th, 2011
12:53 pm

But because I’m American I have little faith in the rich and powerful to be made to account for anything criminal.
Didn’t you already mention Bernie M…he got off scott free didn’t he?

AmVet

August 16th, 2011
12:53 pm

What these abysmally inept, albeit slimy, cons desperately need is a new Richard Nixon. And might as well throw in a Spiro Agnew.

Sure, Rove and Atw@ter were serviceable, slimeball attack dogs, but when it comes to Grade A “hit lists’ only the very most paranoid and bizarre Republicans will do.

At least the old guard Republipricks weren’t anti-intellect as well…

@@

August 16th, 2011
12:53 pm

Adam:

PLANT THIS before you discount.

USinUK

August 16th, 2011
12:55 pm

“Fox News viewers tend to watch for longer amounts of times”

that’s what happens when you have a lobotomy

(sorry. couldn’t help myself)

Finn McCool

August 16th, 2011
12:55 pm

Bernie didn’t want to get off scott free. LOL. He WANTED to go to jail cause he needed protection. Why you think he turned himself in?

When you take money from the Russian mafia (among others), once they find out its a scam, they come looking for their investment. Bernie knew his only chance to live was behind bars.

Uncle Jed

August 16th, 2011
12:55 pm

Adam

August 16th, 2011
12:44 pm
++++++++++++++=

The panel has scored your “you can be an artist” submission and determined your best medium is likely crayons.

Granny Godzilla

August 16th, 2011
12:56 pm

“”"Isn’t it pretty standard for dictatorships and communist countries to control all of the news outlets???? Anybody else notice the similarities to the wishes of the liberals here?”"”

HEY THAT’S MY LINE!!

How many stations are on the dials and how many media companies are there really?

And just NOW you are noticing? Because of a joke line in a blog?

Good Lord.

mm

August 16th, 2011
12:57 pm

Almost all FN viewers are 58 or older. Similar to the age of the wingnuts on this blog.

Adam

August 16th, 2011
12:57 pm

Doggone, USinUK, sorry, a misunderstanding there. I knew USinUK was American. I meant more along the lines of never having lived in another country and not exposed as much to other cultures as I would like, thus influencing how I see the rich and powerful. I know other countries may not have that problem as part of their culture, is what I’m saying, and exposure to a culture that doesn’t view the rich and powerful as invincible is probably healthy.

AmVet

August 16th, 2011
12:57 pm

cat, I call it Unequal Justice Under Law.

Or…

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with no need for one of your gods, with liberty and justice for some.

Adam

August 16th, 2011
1:00 pm

@@: discount what, exactly?

AmVet

August 16th, 2011
1:00 pm

mm, it is little more than political porn for lonely, old, white, Republican men…

(I guess the adjective *white* was superfluous.)

out of the blue

August 16th, 2011
1:01 pm

If only that were to become a reality (MSNBC…taking over FOX) then all you NeoCons still would control AM Radio, and all of it’s hatefilled dialogue by the likes of Beck, Boortz, Erickson, Hugh Hewitt, Lars Larson, Laura Ingraham, where no lie is too big for them. Oops I forgot to add the largest man boobs! Rush to the equation.

Paul

August 16th, 2011
1:01 pm

Hmmm. Maybe the Mudoch empire will be forced to divest itself of its American holdings. GE will buy Fox as they’ll see it as one way they can make money. But then they’ll realize they’ll have to pay taxes on the earnings and Immelt won’t be able to explain to Pfoufle why owning Fox is a public relations mess, so they’ll sell the network to China’s Huawei Technologies (US operations in Texas) and Perry will say “See how I bring more jobs to Texas?”

Joe the Plutocrat

August 16th, 2011
1:04 pm

call me an isolationist, and while I understand the connect to US politics (viability of Fox News), until “Members of Parliment” and/or the “Parliment” on this side of the pond are involved, I really don’t see the point in discussing this otherwise “limey” issue.

Paul

August 16th, 2011
1:05 pm

Joe the P

“Experts: Murdoch’s companies may face US actions

July 11, 2011 — LONDON (AP) — Legal experts said Monday it is possible Rupert Murdoch’s U.S. companies may face legal actions because of the shady practices at the News of the World, his now defunct British tabloid.

They said Murdoch’s News Corp. might be liable to criminal prosecution under the 1977 Corrupt Foreign Practices Act, a broad act designed to prosecute executives who bribe foreign officials in exchange for large contracts.”

http://www.mail.com/int/scitech/news/552790-experts-murdochs-companies-face-us-actions.html

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 16th, 2011
1:06 pm

In the annual report News Corp. filed with the SEC today, the company discussed the possible ramifcations of the expanding phone hacking scandal in the “risk factors” section of the filling:

We face criminal investigations regarding allegations of phone hacking and inappropriate payments to police and other related matters and related civil lawsuits.

U.K. and U.S. regulators and governmental authorities are conducting investigations after allegations of phone hacking and inappropriate payments to police at our former publication, News of the World , and other related matters, including investigations into whether similar conduct may have occurred at the Company’s subsidiaries outside of the U.K. The Company is cooperating fully with these investigations.

We are not able to predict the ultimate outcome or cost of the investigations. Violations of law may result in civil, administrative or criminal fines or penalties. It is also possible that these proceedings could damage our reputation and might impair our ability to conduct our business. Any fees, expenses, fines, penalties, judgments or settlements which might be incurred by the Company in connection with the various proceedings could affect the Company’s results of operations and financial condition.

USinUK

August 16th, 2011
1:06 pm

“Erickson, Hugh Hewitt, Lars Larson,”

which leads me to the musical question –

Eric Erickson
Hugh Hewitt
Lars Larson.

I mean, seriously???

USinUK

August 16th, 2011
1:07 pm

Hi Paul!!!

I hope you noticed that, downstairs, most of us said that you were the only thing we’d want to keep if Texas seceded … (although, I did add Austin)

AmVet

August 16th, 2011
1:07 pm

Tired of politics as usual…

42 years ago today there started a little gathering at Yasgur’s farm.

Sometimes I feel like a motherless child

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA51wyl-9IE

RB from Gwinnett

August 16th, 2011
1:08 pm

I’m not sure if I’m reading the writings of liberals on Jay’s blog or Hugo Chavez. Sounds pretty much like one and the same to me.

The shoe fits.

Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)

August 16th, 2011
1:08 pm

Jay has his blog lib’s all having cerebral orgasms thinking that Fox News will disappear. I guess it relieves their angst about all the bad news piling up on the commander in chief campaigner

Jm

August 16th, 2011
1:08 pm

This is like a conservative being excited if a democrat president was impeached.

Oh wait. That happened.

Paul

August 16th, 2011
1:09 pm

USinUK

Why, thank you…. but wouldn’t it get kind of lonely for me?

Joe the Plutocrat

August 16th, 2011
1:10 pm

Paul, Roger Wilco, but again, the word that jumps out a me is “may” (face US actions). to me it’s like the riots in London. if you want to talk about mob violence in Philadelphia, Wisconsin, on MARTA or “Screen on the Green” have at it, but like Vegas, what happens in the UK stays in the UK (until it comes here)

Paul

August 16th, 2011
1:10 pm

Jm

You do know about innocent until proven guilty, right?

Like the thing about needing this thing called a conviction?

oldguy

August 16th, 2011
1:11 pm

ah;
That’s what I “love” about Libs; the old “guilt by association”.
Another .article about the owner of a UK media empire; how quaint!
I am so shocked (yawn) by what is happening in the UK ….
Of course, we all understand the point; to try desperately to try to find a way to silence Fox News.
All our lib problems would be over if we could just silence Fox News!!
It seems there was another regime’ that thought that way also …..what was it now (the USSR??). Maybe we can start a new version of Radio Free Europe to get out the truth!!

godless heathen

August 16th, 2011
1:11 pm

Since less than 2% of American households tune into Fox News, why do you libs have such a conniption fit about it every day.

Paul

August 16th, 2011
1:12 pm

Joe

An article similar to that caught my eye when the story broke. The more I looked into it, it didn’t seem like a theoretical possibility but a strong possibility. Could have serious implications on the US side.

USinUK

August 16th, 2011
1:12 pm

Paul – you’re always welcome back here – I’d take you (and your lovely Mrs) to The Fox, a great pub around the corner from us – 3 fireplaces, stone floor and great beer selection :-)

Schrodinger's cat

August 16th, 2011
1:12 pm

Adam, you’re right about how a little trip or two out of fantasy land might influence your world view…at least you admit to see the world thru colored spectacles

Joe the Plutocrat

August 16th, 2011
1:13 pm

godless heathen, I agree. Fox News is neo-con porn, and this is America; if somebody likes porn, somebody likes porn (of course, not gay porn, that’s against god’s word).

USinUK

August 16th, 2011
1:13 pm

“article about the owner of a UK media empire”

you do realize he owns the WSJ, too, don’t you??? not to mention 27 other stations across the country.

oh, you didn’t?

not surprised.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 16th, 2011
1:13 pm

jm…or if a Republican president resigned to avoid impeachment and almost certain convicton….

Oh wait that did happen.

Uncle Jed

August 16th, 2011
1:14 pm

If you can stop drooling over the Murdoch “non-news” long enough, you may find the following interesting when considering how the private sector and those of us comprising it are faltering and watching the economy tank. All the while, regulations are thriving at a record pace. Obama doesn’t give a crap about helping the country do better as long as it changes to his liking. He’s got his wealth, that dirty evil wealth. His family is doing quite well these days in fact. He knows he is finished come January 2013 and he may already be planning to step aside for Hillary. We’ll see.

Regulation Business, Jobs Booming Under Obama

If the federal government’s regulatory operation were a business, it would be one of the 50 biggest in the country in terms of revenues, and the third largest in terms of employees, with more people working for it than McDonald’s, Ford, Disney and Boeing combined.

Under President Obama, while the economy is struggling to grow and create jobs, the federal regulatory business is booming.

Regulatory agencies have seen their combined budgets grow a healthy 16% since 2008, topping $54 billion, according to the annual “Regulator’s Budget,” compiled by George Washington University and Washington University in St. Louis.

That’s at a time when the overall economy grew a paltry 5%.

Meanwhile, employment at these agencies has climbed 13% since Obama took office to more than 281,000, while private-sector jobs shrank by 5.6%….

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/581555/201108151901/Regulatory-Agencies-Staffing-Up.htm

(off to a meeting)

Thulsa Doom

August 16th, 2011
1:14 pm

Doggone/GA,

I was reading the other blog and noticed some appalling economics errors that need to be addressed.

Doggone/GA
“and his policies have deflated our dollar”
“Which is actually a GOOD thing. Gives the dollar more buying power on the world market.”

Economics Fail #1
A weaker dollar actually does the exact opposite of what you stated. It gives us less buying power on the world market. For example a weaker dollar means we have to spend more dollars to make dollar denominated purchases of foreign oil and is hence one of the important factors in the rise of gas prices. Please don’t try to argue this point. There is nothing to argue.

Economics fail #2
“Money is a symbol, not a fake. And you left out being able to trade labor. Money is ultimately based on labor, not on goods. Because without labor you HAVE no goods.”

That is a simpleton argument. Money is a tool of exchange. And it is often but not ultimately based on labor but is often also based on the intrinsic value of a good. For example if I’m out walking and I see a nugget of gold on a dry river bed is there really much labor involved in picking up a 2 ounce nugget of gold and selling it for 3K? Same with diamonds and various other goods. How much does that slave labor factor in when mining diamonds in conflict zones in Africa? That diamond, gold, and many other items have their own value regardless of labor. Oil? If we know of oil sitting somewhere in the ground that oil has enormous value despite the fact that no labor has thus been used in extracting it. I could go on and on but surely you get the point.

Your various comments on labor being the overriding determinant of value in basically all goods and services is simply wrong. I’ll give you a couple more examples. I saw a commercial where a guy bought a picture frame at a yard sale and pulled out the pic in the frame. Behind it was an original copy of the declaration of independence which he sold for 2 million. How much labor was really involved in that? Same with investments.

If I looked at Microsoft 30 years ago and made a snap decision after 10 minutes of reading about the stock and bought 1,000 shares is the value of that 1,000 shares today based on the labor of having looked at the stock for 10 minutes? Um. No. Labor is just one of several inputs into a good or service. Sometimes it is the overriding input such as in the skills of a brain surgeon but many times it is not.

USinUK

August 16th, 2011
1:14 pm

“Since less than 2% of American households tune into Fox News, why do you cons seem to think that’s the BIGGEST. NEWS. OUTLET. EVAH”

there ya go. fixed yonder typo

Paul

August 16th, 2011
1:15 pm

USinUK

And we’d gladly accept. I know your trips back across the pond normally terminate at Atlanta, but if you’re going further west and stop over at DFW (likely if you’re flying American) make it a long layover, ‘k?

Adam

August 16th, 2011
1:15 pm

Schrodinger’s cat: at least you admit to see the world thru colored spectacles

it’s impossible to avoid that influence. Only being exposed to as much different influence as possible can mitigate that.

USinUK

August 16th, 2011
1:16 pm

Joe – “(of course, not gay porn, that’s against god’s word).”

only if it’s guy-on-guy

if it’s girl-on-girl, the godly cons here don’t seem to have a problem with it.

funny that.

Paul

August 16th, 2011
1:16 pm

USinUK

Just occurred to me. I’d be with two foxes at the Fox! And maybe even watching Fox!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 16th, 2011
1:16 pm

Joe T P….it appears that NewsCorp may have already done hacking or worse here in the US… http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/08/business/media/news-corps-legal-trail-in-the-us.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1

But I know we have some posters here who claim it could NEVER happen in the US

USinUK

August 16th, 2011
1:16 pm

Paul – 1:15 – DEAL!

TaxPayer

August 16th, 2011
1:17 pm

Poor RB. He cannot defend his love, FOX news and the Murdoch clan, so he attacks other bloggers. Awwwww.

Adam

August 16th, 2011
1:17 pm

Thulsa: I’ll give you a couple more examples. I saw a commercial…

Seriously? You’re not even TRYING to hide “my personal experience trumps all”

Paulo977

August 16th, 2011
1:17 pm

USinUK

Erickson and The Identity Crisis !!!

USinUK

August 16th, 2011
1:17 pm

Paul – “And maybe even watching Fox!”

:lol: the most you’d ever see on a TV in an English pub is footy … or cricket … maybe rugby

Finn McCool

August 16th, 2011
1:18 pm

All the while, regulations are thriving at a record pace.

yawn, you conservanuts will believe anything along as it’s delivered to you by a guy wearing a suit and a tie.

Joe the Plutocrat

August 16th, 2011
1:18 pm

Paul, I don’t dispute your beliefs at all, and obviously, there is a HUGE political motivation for the current administration to “investiage” Fox News. I’m just thinking what’s next; a special prosecutor, Whitewater? let’s be honest, I’d like to see more effort investigsting the 2008 crash. this “case” is going to land in the 1st Amendment, and as noted, even porn and strippers are protected by the first Amendment. spending millions to determine if Murdoch is a “cyber-bully” is silly in my book.

out of the blue

August 16th, 2011
1:19 pm

AmVet, I’m totally impressed with your logic….Atw@ter…You figured out where where the culmination of an innocuous statement led to moderation.

Paul

August 16th, 2011
1:19 pm

USinUK

Okay, I’ll just settle for watching the foxes -

AmVet

August 16th, 2011
1:20 pm

Methinks the faithful doth protest too much.

I presume that most Americans do not even consider Faux and Imbalanced News whatsoever. Unless one is a rabid righty, that noise is just that – noise. Not even on most people’s radar.

It is merely another part of the lunatic fringe’s echo chamber, and has the distinction of serving as the head oracle of the Republican News Networks.

I haven’t watched one moment of that hyperbolic rhetoric and sensationalist, titillating trash in ages.

In the free market place of ideas, they are in the bargain basement…

Mr Right

August 16th, 2011
1:20 pm

USinUK

August 16th, 2011
12:55 pm

“Fox News viewers tend to watch for longer amounts of times”

that’s what happens when you have a lobotomy

(sorry. couldn’t help myself)

You that old! :)

USinUK

August 16th, 2011
1:21 pm

heading home … and chuckling all the way …

thanks, all!

kayaker 71

August 16th, 2011
1:21 pm

If Murdoch owned CBS or NBC, Bookman wouldn’t be having this thread, the libs would not be rubbing their hands in delight and we would be debating something else besides a UK investigation.

ned flanders

August 16th, 2011
1:22 pm

Why would they go after fox news. After all, they let the war criminals bush/cheney off scot free.

AmVet

August 16th, 2011
1:22 pm

blue, it actually took me a couple of tries to remember!

Here’s for the evil AJC censorbot!

Lee a-T-W-A-T-er.

Schrodinger's cat

August 16th, 2011
1:22 pm

UK…actually saw American football in an Irish pub in Frankfurt ….I saw cricket in the UK…I don’t get it, but man the crowd was really into it…Was in St Etiene during the rugby world cup…a mild crowd compared to footy

Jm

August 16th, 2011
1:23 pm

Paul yes of course

oldguy

August 16th, 2011
1:23 pm

I have a suggestion Jay,
Since you seem soooo interested in British politics why don’t we just convert to their form of government…..
How about King Barack the First ?? We can declare him king for life!! OK?
Dirty Harry can be speaker of the House of Lords since that seems to be his viev of his position.

Joe the Plutocrat

August 16th, 2011
1:23 pm

USinUK, or unless it’s Rep. Foley “sexting” his page. remember Prof. Venkman in Ghostbusters; “…it’s more of a guideline than a rule…”

godless heathen

August 16th, 2011
1:23 pm

Thanks for punctuating my point, USinUK. On one hand the libs squeal that Fox is all lies and no-one watches it. On the other hand you fret about it all day long.

(And I don’t watch it.)

Paul

August 16th, 2011
1:25 pm

Joe

If you use the linked article to read up on the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, I think you’ll find it goes past low-grade charges and right to felonies and serious fines.

I am not a favor of special prosecutors. I don’t care if it’s for Clinton or Plame or anyone. Giving prosecutors carte blanche and millions of dollars to go looking for something wrong, so when they find nothing they expand to find anything on any topic that’s chargeable so they can say ‘at least I found something’ is a practice with with I find fault.

RB from Gwinnett

August 16th, 2011
1:26 pm

“Poor RB. He cannot defend his love, FOX news and the Murdoch clan, so he attacks other bloggers. Awwwww.”

What has Fox News done that requires defending?