‘President Michele Bachmann’ has a ring to it

The Iowa Straw poll results:


1. Michele Bachmann: 4823 votes
2. Ron Paul: 4671
3. Tim Pawlenty: 2293
4. Rick Santorum: 1657
5. Herman Cain: 1456
6. Rick Perry 718
7. Mitt Romney: 567
8. Newt Gingrich: 385
9. Jon Huntsman 69
10. Thaddeus McCotter: 35

The Bachmann momentum builds. Really people? Bachmann?

Ron Paul, as usual, turns out every Libertarian in the state of Iowa. But his political ceiling remains about two feet higher than his floor.

Tim “I Got” Pawlenty of nothing gets walloped two-to-one by the Wide-Eyed Wonder and quits the race in abject embarrassment.

Rick Perry, the Ken doll from Texas, isn’t on the ballot but uses write-ins to beat the Massachusetts Ken doll, Mitt Romney.

Herman “Rock You Like a Herman” Cain peters out into a tropical depression somewhere over the Bermuda Triangle. Newt Gingrich trails badly — apparently they don’t have Twitter yet in Iowa. And watching Jon Huntsman try to hit up Republican voters is like watching Charlie Sheen prowl for dates in a lesbian bar — whatever he’s selling, they’re not buying, and he doesn’t understand why.

But most important:

Michele Bachmann? Really, people?

– Jay Bookman

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get me rex kramer

August 14th, 2011
9:36 am

Left wing management

August 14th, 2011
9:40 am

Ladies and gentlemen we have our first casualty.

Paw Lenty of Losers in that Lineup

August 14th, 2011
9:41 am

She can’t even see another country from her back porch AND she has no executive experience! She’s the worst of Palin and Obama, combined. I think she’s the perfect generic GOP candidate for whatever. The key is in her selection of a running mate if the GOP constituency is really serious about picking her for their presidential candidate. Someone to anchor her and keep her submissive. Someone that will remind her on a daily basis of her principles. Bachmann/Bachmann 2012. Bachmann less the Turner in Overdrive, steering for cliff and full steam ahead. Maybe she’ll hand out those batter-dipped deep-fried butter sticks at her next rally. That’s bound to win over even more support.

1811/0311

August 14th, 2011
9:43 am

“The Bachmann momentum builds. Really people? Bachmann?”

The Obama momentum builds. Really people? Obama?

Get used to it Jay.

First someone out to destroy this country as we know it and now someone to save it.

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 14th, 2011
9:44 am

C’mon, Jay. It’s the Ames Straw Poll.

Their record of picking the eventual nominee is dismal at best.

It’s a fundraising event for the local party, and as usual dominated with attendance by the faithful (in both political and religious aspects).

Not surprised by T-Paw. Horrendous debate performance; even if he did have the substance of Michele Bachmann down pat, he went about it the wrong way. And too much white bread. The Other White Bread (Santorum) will likely be the next “name” to drop out, but not for a while.

And who were the 35 escapees from the Yerkes Primate Center that voted for McCotter?

1811/0311

August 14th, 2011
9:46 am

“The last sitting Democratic president to face a serious primary challenge was Jimmy Carter, who was challenged by the late Sen. Ted Kennedy. With that in mind, do you think any Democrat could mount a serious primary challenge to President Obama?”

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 14th, 2011
9:48 am

“With that in mind, do you think any Democrat could mount a serious primary challenge to President Obama?”

No.

Too many addicts of the Hope & Downgrade ™ Kool-Aid aren’t ready to admit they have a problem.

Songbird

August 14th, 2011
9:49 am

Bill Maher got it right when he said Iowa is just fat f-cks and corn. Fried butter anyone?

1811/0311

August 14th, 2011
9:50 am

Jay:

I’m sure you will be watching.

“Sunday shows: Bachmann all over

By POLITICO STAFF | 8/14/11 9:34 AM

Michele Bachmann hits all five major network television talk shows Sunday.”

Midori

August 14th, 2011
9:52 am

ever thought of doing stand up, Jay? :lol:

Derek Wain

August 14th, 2011
9:52 am

Ronald Reagan, really people? Yes, really, and 8 great years for the American people of President Bachmann. At the Ames Iowa debate, Congresswoman Bachmann remained the little lady with a spine of titanium, whose unshakable principles supported her despite the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune. The Demented Left blogosphere and the hostile media have done their utmost to bring her down, but to no avail. She has emerged unscathed, smiling triumphantly, seemingly frail but in fact fearless, and with an almost martial strength, by virtue of which she seems by herself a match for all her political foes–on the Right as well as on the Left.

Normal

August 14th, 2011
9:53 am

I’m not sure that when only 17,000 out of 3 million people vote, it really says anything at all. Just a f*rt in the breeze is all…

Derek Wain

August 14th, 2011
9:54 am

At the Ames, IA debate,Pawlenty made absurd claims about MB’s Congressional record. No Republican could have single-handedly overturned the Obama program during a period when the Democrats controlled the Senate, White House, and The House until 1/11. In her principled opposition to Obama’s radical expansion of government, MB has done more than any other member of Congress to set the stage for the rollback of the huge, wasteful Federal government expansion. Pawlenty and all the other Republicans Presidential candidates together have done virtually nothing in this fight compared to MB.For Tim Pawlenty, “accomplishment” in Congress means passing more legislation and spending more money that the U.S. does not have. In his criticism of MB’s Congressional record, Pawlenty perversely adopts the view of the activist Left that legislative accomplishment, e.g., Obamacare, represents proof of Congressional “accomplishment.”

Normal

August 14th, 2011
9:55 am

…and Tim Pawlenty already quit….

Midori

August 14th, 2011
9:56 am

Derek,

put the crack pipe on the table, and move slowly away…………..

Left wing management

August 14th, 2011
9:57 am

1811/0311: “First someone out to destroy this country as we know it and now someone to save it.”

Seriously?

You know who you sound like?

You sound like some Obama Kool-Aid drinker in 2008.

Do you not see that?

Normal

August 14th, 2011
9:57 am

…and Michelle Bachmann as GOP nominee will mean four more years for Obama, given the voting ratio of this straw poll…Yipes!

Left wing management

August 14th, 2011
9:59 am

I agree, Normal. At this point there’s precious little that we could say will all but ensure the re-election of Barack Obama next year, but one thing that would probably do it is a Michelle Bachmann nomination.

Guess they’d be breaking out the champagne bottles on Pennsylvania Ave. right now — if Iowa meant anything, that is.

1811/0311

August 14th, 2011
10:00 am

Left wing management :

Keep your head in the sand. It’s your Constitutional right.

N-GA

August 14th, 2011
10:01 am

If only she would become the GOP presidential candidate…..wishful thinking. Talk about making the USA the laughing stock of the planet!

N-GA

August 14th, 2011
10:03 am

1811/0311 – You must be reading from your version of the Tea Party Constitution. You invent rights as needed.

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 14th, 2011
10:04 am

Something tells me Derek is a Bat-s#it crazy Bachmann supporter.

Possibly.

Midori

August 14th, 2011
10:04 am

LOL –

unlike you with your head in the commode?

Is that “your” constitutional right? :lol:

Midori

August 14th, 2011
10:06 am

Hi N-Ga :)

must be glorious in your neck of the woods right now :)

Left wing management

August 14th, 2011
10:16 am

Dave R.: “Too many addicts of the Hope & Downgrade ™ Kool-Aid aren’t ready to admit they have a problem.”

With some minor qualifications, I’d basically endorse that view.

Don’t forget not to make the “mirror image” error Paul Krugman talked about yesterday (http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/12/the-cracked-conservative-mirror/) the fallacy of the ideological true believer who assumes that his adversaries hold the exact same ideas and passions as he does, only in inverse form. According to this view you might think that all Obama supporters are equally committed and Kool-Aid drinking as you are on your side — which is an error.

The fact is that Obama counted great numbers of people among his supporters who weren’t all that into politics or any particular ideology, but just liked the guy or were sick of the politics of the time in ‘08. So your Kool-Aid line doesn’t really apply for these people. It’s a good bet that many of these same people will still be inclined — if they vote at all — to vote for Obama again.

Of course among the left base strictly speaking, what you’re saying does have some validity.

midtownguy

August 14th, 2011
10:17 am

I believe Hillary could beat Obama for the nomination, but no Democrat is going to challenge America’s first black president. It’s just too counter to basic party values.

Six months ago I didn’t think any Republican in the race could beat Obama. I now think either Romney or Perry could easily beat Obama. The Democrats only hope is that a fringe candidate like Bachmann, with little appeal to the middle, gets the nomination.

I will be voting in the Republican primary for Romney.

rygy

August 14th, 2011
10:22 am

Either the GOP wises up and gets behind a decent candidate or they hand the presidency back to Obama. The only person that could articulate intelligent comments, and the only GOP candidate that has the voting record to prove he is not just blowing smoke in this poll was Ron Paul. He is the only one I would vote for. Otherwise its the lesser of two evils. Obama will get my vote before Perry, Romney, Bachmann, or Crazy Palin. So really it is up to main stream republicans who the next pres will be because there is only one candidate that dems, indys, and libs will cross party lines to vote for. So who is it going to be Paul or Obama?

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 14th, 2011
10:24 am

LWM, I’ve said for some time now that those who blindly voted for him in 2008 (the Hope & Change crowd of first-time voters) will likely vote for him again, although with far less intensity. There will be no faltering from the rabid left – he’s their guy come Hell or high water.

It’s the independents that took a chance on him last time that aren’t going to make the same mistake twice.

That being said, if the GOP nominates a Bachmann or a Perry, the independents will sit this one out, which will have interesting implications down-ballot in the 80 or so Congressional districts that aren’t gerrymandered for a particular result.

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 14th, 2011
10:29 am

“So really it is up to main stream republicans who the next pres will be because there is only one candidate that dems, indys, and libs will cross party lines to vote for. So who is it going to be Paul or Obama?”

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit . . . ;)

I loved my crazy Uncle Midie, but I’d never have voted for him for President. Neither will the Dems, indies or libs for Ron Paul.

Midori

August 14th, 2011
10:31 am

what is this “blindly voted” bs?

oh wait — much like you guys do, right?

getalife

August 14th, 2011
10:31 am

dave’s candidate should drop out.

Midori

August 14th, 2011
10:34 am

Getalife – just watched Bachmann on Meet the Press.

that’s a whole new category of crazy there.

and yet some will “blindly vote” for her……

getalife

August 14th, 2011
10:37 am

Midori,

We can only pray she wins the primary.

Our first woman President will never be her or palin.

She might end up as another VP loser .

JamVet

August 14th, 2011
10:38 am

So Pawlenty drops out of the race. Another lout bites the dust.

But at least he’s comfortable knowing he has made suffering and dying cancer patient’s lives in Minnesota less dangerous by not allowing them to turn into hardened marijuana criminals.

Their record of picking the eventual nominee is dismal at best.

Yessirree. Of the five winners of that poll, only three have won the Iowa Caucuses (a “dismal at best” 60%) and only two have won the party nomination, for a “dismal at best” 40%.

Simply for the heightened comedic factor, here’s to hoping that Michele Batsh*t Crazy wins the eventual nomination…

DJ Sniper

August 14th, 2011
10:40 am

Seriously people? Whoever thinks that Michele Bachmann will save this country is obviously drinking the Tea Party Kool-Aid. This woman’s entire campaign is based on lies and fearmongering. It’s one thing to make promises that don’t get kept; hell, every politician is guilty of this. WIth MB however, she has proven that she has no problem spreading lies and misinformation to the less informed and less educated members of her potential voting base.

I haven’t heard one single idea from her as to how she would make this country better. All I’ve heard is the standard GOP talking points: make Obama a 1 term president, take our country back, don’t raise taxes, gays are evil, etc etc. If you take a look at the people she surrounds herself with, that should also give you a good indication as to where her mindset is.

I’m just waiting on her to make another colossal blunder on TV, like she’s been known to do.

Rogeriter

August 14th, 2011
10:40 am

rygy–I guess the GOP is going to have to drop all candidates but Paul. We certainly can’t survive without your vote!

Left wing management

August 14th, 2011
10:42 am

Dave R. “I’ve said for some time now that those who blindly voted for him in 2008 (the Hope & Change crowd of first-time voters) will likely vote for him again, although with far less intensity. ”

The problem here is your word “blindly”. In a Democracy the vast majority of voters vote “blindly”. They really don’t have a real deep grasp of the issues and they select their political affiliation based on more or less gut level identification with a certain philosophy and/or based on a narrow basket of pet issues (gun rights, sexual morality, etc.).

“There will be no faltering from the rabid left – he’s their guy come Hell or high water.” Again, don’t make the mistake of thinking the “rabid left” is the same as the “rabid right”.

“It’s the independents that took a chance on him last time that aren’t going to make the same mistake twice.”

The notion of “independents” has been, in my view, convincingly shown to be way overblown. A great many so-called independents are just partisans who are coyly holding out affiliation because they’re disgruntled or they get gratification from pretending to have to be “won over” by an actual candidate before casting each vote. In some cases the “independent” in question is just a gung ho partisan in drag.

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 14th, 2011
10:43 am

What is your obsession with telling other people what to do, getaclue?

rygy

August 14th, 2011
10:43 am

Whatever you say Dave, All I know is that people who actually study the candidates voting records, and really listen to the candidates belief’s pretty much all come to the same conclusion. I mean really its not just Paul or Obama, it’s Paul or endless war. Even our military supports Ron Paul more than any other candidate. So why don’t you do the people risking there lives a favor and stop spewing the same crap mainstream media has been pushing on us and look at the facts. I promise you that an unbiased review of all candidates will show you the truth.

Paul or Endless War

JamVet

August 14th, 2011
10:44 am

rygy, well said.

I have a wager with one of my die-hard Republican friends here regarding who wins the next election for POTUS. We’ll both win, because the bet involves going to the winner’s choice of concerts.

And for me, there is little better than watching fabulous live entertainment for free!

Long live these new versions of a GOP Michael Dukakis…

Bruno

August 14th, 2011
10:49 am

my die-hard Republican friends

I generally split my votes among Republicans and Democrats, JamVet. You might wish to modify that to “die-hard conservative”.

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 14th, 2011
10:50 am

LWm, do you honestly believe that the first-time young voters in 2008 had any clue as to the first thing Hope & Downgrade ™ was going to actually accomplish?

And the rabid left is no different than the rabid right. Just as the right stuck with Bush in 2004 (although much more obvious given his opponent), the left will stick with Hope & Downgrade ™ in 2012.

Independents do shade to one side of the other, but they do so largely on a particular issue. But no particular issue motivates them enough to stick with a particular party, but with a candidate that best hits their hot button at that time.

JamVet

August 14th, 2011
10:51 am

Brother B, my die-hard (fill in the blank) friend!

Happy “Sabbath” to you…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F5C0rrncXE

Midori

August 14th, 2011
10:53 am

talking about downgrade – you happen to see that lineup at the GOP debate?

when are you guys gonna upgrade, Dave?

eReally Now

August 14th, 2011
10:54 am

I cant wait to see debates between the GOP presidential candidate and Obama and his teleprompter. I bet the teleprompter loses this time around. Obama cant run on his record because his record is destruction so Michelle VS Obama could be a good one.

Curious George went to Washington

August 14th, 2011
10:55 am

I am the only choice. Vote for me!! Socialism works well, look at Europe!!

Bruno

August 14th, 2011
10:55 am

Back from W Va in one piece. Josef will be pleased to know that my family pried ourselves away from the casino long enough to visit Harper’s Ferry for an afternoon to take in some history. I sat on Jefferson’s Rock which overlooks the merger of the Shenandoah and Potomac Rivers and visited abolitionist John Brown’s garrison.

Came out a few bucks ahead on the gambling side. I was down a few hundred with about an hour to go when my niece got hold of the dice. When her roll was over, I came out a few bucks ahead. I guess the only other newsworthy event occurred when the crack TSA agents confiscated my shaving cream in Atlanta. Foiled again. ;-)

tireofit

August 14th, 2011
10:55 am

Sad thing about Bachman is; she really is the face of a large part of republican party.

Left wing management

August 14th, 2011
10:56 am

Bachman is on ABC right now making the ridiculously simplistic case that no country has ever held levels of debt at our current level and that we’ve gone from being the world’s greatest creditor nation to one of the greatest debtors.

What she doesn’t realize is that debt is the engine of world capitalism right now, so if Obama wanted to run a really smart counter-attack he could seize on how radically anti-capitalist this is. But considering that this line of attack would be somewhat counter-intuitive, and as we’ve seen this president is about as timid as he can possibly be when it comes to finding ways to sell the counterintuitive to the masses (the GOP’s secret), I can’t imagine him ever taking this approach.

Thus, given the fact that Bachmann’s entire candidacy is based on an unflinching, and frankly well argued, embrace of the counter-intuitive, I think it would be a huge mistake for anyone to misunderestimate her.

They BOTH suck

August 14th, 2011
10:56 am

If Bachmen wins the WH and Obamacare isn’t overturned, gay people could get cured of their “gayness” at her husband’s clinic on the taxpayer’s dime……..

Of the irony…………………… hahahahahahahahah

getalife

August 14th, 2011
10:57 am

Bruno is a con,

He can’t deny.

There is not a load of con spin

He will not buy.

Bruno

August 14th, 2011
10:57 am

Happy “Sabbath” to you…

Sabbath was yesterday, Jam. All you have to do is look at any calendar. Sunday is still the first day of the week, though by common vernacular, the “weekend” means Saturday and Sunday.

JamVet

August 14th, 2011
10:58 am

Speaking of dufus canards, I am certain (eye roll) that the next Luddite Republican president will not ever use a teleprompter at all.

He will read from reams of paper notes instead.

Do you cons even think how dumb your arguments often are?

They BOTH suck

August 14th, 2011
11:00 am

JamVet

Or maybe from notes written on their hands or mics in their shirts…… but that has never happened, right Repubs?

JamVet

August 14th, 2011
11:02 am

Sabbath was yesterday, Jam.

And aside from the musical reference, why I put it in quotation marks.

Josef would love the mentioning of Blanche Dubois…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KX4tQ6uBV0

Business Man

August 14th, 2011
11:03 am

I think it would be interesting to see what would happen, if Democrats and Republicans,
only purchased products from like-minded individuals.

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 14th, 2011
11:03 am

rygy, I have already voted for Ron Paul in a Presidential race twice – have you?

So don’t tell me to research anything about him, OK?

While I support many of his stances on issues and agree with him on principle, he is not Presidential material. He is more a policy wonk than leader.

And people elect leaders for their Presidents. They don’t always get what they bargained for, but they still go for those whom they think will be a good leader.

Which is why Ron Paul will never be elected as the GOP nominee, nor President of the United States.

getalife

August 14th, 2011
11:03 am

The moonbat wanted to default.

A quitter like palin.

He husband gets paid to cure the gay,

He shoved a CNN reporter into the hay.

Bruno

August 14th, 2011
11:04 am

A little cornball mountain music for you, Jam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN86d0CdgHQ

Brosephus

August 14th, 2011
11:04 am

Bruno

Welcome back!!!! How was that buffet? :)
You should have driven a bit north to Sharpsburg. The Battle at Antietam is still the single worst day for American casualties ever in our history. The casualty rate for that one day was around one every two seconds.

JV

If I didn’t know any better, I’d swear you were a writer for the WaPo. Is this some of your handy work?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/steven-pearlstein-blame-for-financial-mess-starts-with-the-corporate-lobby/2011/08/08/gIQA3zMlDJ_story.html

RB from Gwinnett

August 14th, 2011
11:05 am

“The Bachmann momentum builds. Really people? Bachmann? ”

Coming from a tool who voted for and carries water for the least qualified president we’ve ever elected while he lives up to his qualifications perfectly…

Jay has bashed each and every one of the Republican candidates endlessly. Give it a rest AJC. Surely you can find a qualified political columnist who can be a little more objective???? Or you can continue going out of business at double the national average….

Bruno

August 14th, 2011
11:05 am

Almost heaven West Virginia
Blue Ridge Mountains Shenandoah river
Life is old there older than the trees
Younger than the mountains blowin’ like a breeze

Country roads take me home
To the place I belove
West Virginia mountain momma
Take me home country roads

Midori

August 14th, 2011
11:05 am

Do you cons even think how dumb your arguments often are?

you’re kidding, right?

marko

August 14th, 2011
11:07 am

At the risk of sounding cocky, I predicted that it would be difficult to slip a reasonable candidate past the Republican base. I suspect Obama must be thrilled. Out of idle curiosity why is Jay working on Sunday?

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 14th, 2011
11:07 am

“when are you guys gonna upgrade, Dave?”

What “guys” are you referring to, Midori?

Roger

August 14th, 2011
11:07 am

Jay, you give us the same old crap each column. When will you address the performance of your guy, President O? This guy is pushing the country off of a cliff from which the nation will never recover if he is allowed to continue to institute entitlements that will destroy the county.

The best jobs program is the cheapest – get off of the backs of business; stop playing the class warfare card; reform the tax code to close loopholes for the rich; and make that 49% who don’t pay any taxes at least have some skin in the game (minimal taxes); and cut the damn spending!

Fred

August 14th, 2011
11:08 am

I was down a few hundred with about an hour to go when my niece got hold of the dice.

Rolling dominoes, gotta love it. I spent a few hundred bucks learning how to gamble on that game a few years ago at a Casino outside of Chicago. Best money I ever spent. I wish we had a real casino close to here.

Oh and Bruno, did the clean up crew get your house back in order? We had a HUGE party there this weekend……………

Curious George went to Washington

August 14th, 2011
11:08 am

Put your faith in me. I am the Messiah. I can cure all the world’s ills. I’m well rested, I’ve done nothing for 3 years, I have no functional ideas, but you’d love to see me on Dancing with the Stars! That’s important!!

Bruno

August 14th, 2011
11:09 am

Welcome back!!!! How was that buffet?

LOL @ Brosephus. You know me too well. I had recently lost 16 lbs, but that Skyline Restaurant at the track ruined me.

I had an hour to kill on my way to Baltimore, so tried to visit you at the airport Thursday morning. I told the lady at Customs that I was looking for a big black guy with a bald head. She said that I would have to narrow it down a little bit since that fit the description of all the guys working there. All that after sweet-talking my way into a pass to the Customs office. ;-)

Left wing management

August 14th, 2011
11:09 am

The sad fact is — and it pains me to say this — Barack Obama is just as bad as George W. Bush in one major area: he speaks to the nation like children.

getalife

August 14th, 2011
11:09 am

Then there is cain.

dave’s candidate feels the pain.

Not sure why is is still there.

The smell of his bad pizza is in the air.

Fred

August 14th, 2011
11:09 am

Bruno? Are you from West Virginia? Do you know where Follansbee is?

JamVet

August 14th, 2011
11:09 am

LOL Midori. I suppose I should have qualified the question as rhetorical!

Thanks, B. Though from a different part of the land, I’m as “country” as a boy can get. That slightly altered version was eq

Bro, cool.

JamVet

August 14th, 2011
9:07 am

In regards to the grinding economic situation in this country, more and more Americans are FINALLY waking up to the root causes.

Yes, because they are still so many ostrich-Republicans in this republic, it will be decades before the most intransigent and willfully stupid of them understand what they many others do today.

And yes, among them, there will always be those lamebrains who throw it at the feet of their one favorite bogeyman, usually the POTUS – or for the more enlightened at the fringe, at the feet of several Barney Franks and Chris Dodds! – but their view is becoming ruled out as sophomoric and misguided.

The army of super-rich, super-greedy, white collared men who caused this implosion are no longer, by and large, trustworthy. BIG business CEOs have for numerous years had an approval rating similar to that of used car salesmen and HMOs. Many, if not most Americans, at least the ones with some great respect for equal justice under law, now realize that many, many more of these banksters and their complicit cronies in crime, should be serving time for their plundering of the American henhouse.

Only their bribed and spineless proxy-agents of Uncle Sam have saved them from humiliation and justice.

So we endure, with much needless sacrifice, a phase of our history defined by corporate personhood and the near complete corporatization of our “grand experiment” of governance.

Let us pray, it is very short-lived…

Dee Giarratano

August 14th, 2011
11:10 am

Bachmann as POTUS? Just think of the eye-popping decorations the White House will have when the new First Man gets a hold of it!

FrankLeeDarling

August 14th, 2011
11:12 am

Wow! Really?

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 14th, 2011
11:15 am

“In regards to the grinding economic situation in this country, more and more Americans are FINALLY waking up to the root causes.”

Yeah, 80 years of Democrat policies.

Surprised you’ve finally come to see the light, AmVet. ;)

JamVet

August 14th, 2011
11:16 am

From that fantastic article you linked, Bro. BTW, that is one damn smart Hebe that just KILLED this hyper-sysfunctional GOP with endless damning FACTS and any comparison to him is muchly (grin) appreciated…

And thanks to your clever lawyers and a Supreme Court majority that is intent on removing all checks to corporate power, it’s perfectly legal.

Somewhere along the way, however, this effort took on a life of its own. What started as a reasonable attempt at political rebalancing turned into a jihad against all regulation, all taxes and all government, waged by right-wing zealots who want to privatize the public schools that educate your workers, cut back on the basic research on which your products are based, shut down the regulatory agencies that protect you from unscrupulous competitors and privatize the public infrastructure that transports your supplies and your finished goods. For them, this isn’t just a tactic to brush back government. It’s a holy war to destroy it — and one that is now out of your control.

rygy

August 14th, 2011
11:17 am

I voted for him in one but i wasn’t old enough for the other. I would love to hear why he is not a leader in your eyes though, especially in comparison to the other candidates. No I think the reason some people say he is not a leader is because of the media and people like you spreading silly assumptions. Also I am pretty sure a person is a great leader because they have great ideas so that makes your argument kinda silly.

getalife

August 14th, 2011
11:18 am

dave,

Like the rest of the cons, you have a personal responsibility failure.

The last people we should listen to about our economy are you cons.

Bruno

August 14th, 2011
11:18 am

When will you address the performance of your guy, President O?

Roger–I’ve tried to goad Jay several times into writing an objective piece rating Obama’s performance, but no go. I guess he has more fun slamming the Republican (non-)candidates like Gingrich and Cain.

I wish we had a real casino close to here.

Not me. I’m glad that the closest one is several hours away. BTW, craps is one of the fairest games in the casino other than baccarat. Theoretically, blackjack can be beaten by counting cards, but in my experience it still comes down to luck. I poked my head into the poker room, but from my judgment, the tables were full of professional players, so I passed.

Oh and Bruno, did the clean up crew get your house back in order? We had a HUGE party there this weekend……………

Not a trace of barbeque sauce left, and the clam pit was raked back over. I hope you tipped them well. ;-)

poison pen

August 14th, 2011
11:18 am

Marcus Bachmann

August 14th, 2011
11:18 am

I am just tickled pink!
This is FAB-U-LOUS!

Midori

August 14th, 2011
11:20 am

Yeah, 80 years of Democrat policies.

and Dave “blindly” sticks to the talking points — however ridiculous

Midori

August 14th, 2011
11:22 am

When Hell Freezes Over

August 14th, 2011
11:22 am

rygy:

“Otherwise its the lesser of two evils. Obama will get my vote before Perry, Romney, Bachmann, or Crazy Palin.”

Your statement above is totally illogical! Obama and Paul are at opposite ends of the political spectrum. Any one of the candidates you mentioned are closer to Paul’s views than Obama.

I submit that your vote will be for Obama, and that is what you intended all along.

Lib in Cobb

August 14th, 2011
11:22 am

Newty ( a useless piece of drek) will be next. He will hang on long enough to accumlate enough $ for another shopping spree at Tiffany’s to buy gifts which magically turn into BJs.

Fred

August 14th, 2011
11:23 am

Jamvet: Good Sabbath. Here’s one I linked last week for Bosch’s time out. I just wanted to hear it again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyKN8OzzO8s

Curious George went to Washington

August 14th, 2011
11:24 am

Hey Lib in Cobb, why don’t you just give Newt the BJ and get him out of the race?

getalife

August 14th, 2011
11:25 am

I think his stunt to shove that CNN reporter was to show the cons he is not gay.

He told the reporter “you did it to yourself”.

I wonder if he thinks the same way on him being gay.

poison pen

August 14th, 2011
11:25 am

Midori, Any of them would be better also.

getalife

August 14th, 2011
11:27 am

Let me be clear for dave:

Four!

More!

Years!

Bruno

August 14th, 2011
11:27 am

No I think the reason some people say he is not a leader is because of the media and people like you spreading silly assumptions.

rygy–I took a look at Ron Paul during the last election since some of this positions make sense to me. However, the Libertarian platform is a bit minimalistic even by my standards. We need a certain amount of government, and we benefit by having a social safety net. And while Paul may be a deep thinker, he lacks charisma, which hurts his ability to lead. Finally, Paul has a few racist ghosts in his closet, which would be put under a huge magnifying glass were he ever to become the front-runner. Though it may sound “unprincipled”, I typically reserve my vote for someone who I think is electable. Two votes for Ross Perot taught me that.

They BOTH suck

August 14th, 2011
11:30 am

When Hell Freezes Over @ 11:22

Good point, however same can be said for those who started crying about Bush around 2006 but would have never changed their voted in 2004 to help him get reelected

TakeYourBiasNShoveIt

August 14th, 2011
11:30 am

“But his political ceiling remains about two feet higher than his floor.”

Nice propaganda lemming of the media. The revolution is coming, and you got your head firmly planted in the sand. (With a few hundred other commentators):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ji9Ond5pmM&feature=player_embedded

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 14th, 2011
11:31 am

“I would love to hear why he is not a leader in your eyes though, especially in comparison to the other candidates.”

A leader inspires people to do the things he or she wants to accomplish. A leader can sometimes inspire people to vote for them. Anybody lining up to vote for Ron Paul? Nope. Anybody buying into his policies? Nope. A leader motivates. Ron Paul doesn’t motivate.

“Also I am pretty sure a person is a great leader because they have great ideas so that makes your argument kinda silly.”

Ideas are the starting point of any candidate. The ability to get those ideas passed and to convince people to buy into them requires leadership. Ronald Reagan was a leader. His collection of core ideals was nothing to write home about, but he could sell them better than anybody else.

Ron Paul has some pretty good ideas; better than most. But he can’t sell them.

Midori

August 14th, 2011
11:31 am

pp – i agree. ABBA puts the GOP lineup to shame.

cue “Dancing Queen” in honor of Marcus Bachmann

Bruno

August 14th, 2011
11:31 am

Bruno? Are you from West Virginia? Do you know where Follansbee is?

Jersey, Fred, Jersey.

josef

August 14th, 2011
11:32 am

I thought the Bruin was on his way to a wedding.

This thread…it’s still early. The circus is just now coming to town. You ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.

ZamVet
Speaking of Blanche du Bois…check out my next post! She came up this a.m. already in my world view…

Midori

August 14th, 2011
11:32 am

the only thing Ronald Reagan led was head of the line at the vegetable patch.

Curious George went to Washington

August 14th, 2011
11:32 am

I am currently passing anti-business regulations, raising taxes on the wealthy and businesses, raising your monthly government payments for obama care (wait till you see how much more it costs than your current private insurance)and granting legal status for 18 million illegal immigrants to compete with you in the workforce. I don’t understand why jobs aren’t being created. I’m going golfing..