Recalls in Wisconsin, Rick Perry’s White House run, etc.

A wrapup of the world of politics:

In Wisconsin, voters in six state Senate districts are going to the polls today to decide whether to recall their Republican legislators, each of whom took active roles in passing controversial anti-labor legislation early this year.

If three or more of the seats turn Democratic, the GOP would lose control of the state Senate, Republican Gov.  Scott Walker would be rebuked and could face possible recall himself, and Democrats around the country would see the populist-themed campaigns as a template for the 2012 elections.

If not, not.

Polls close at 8 p.m. Central, 9 Eastern, but the races are expected to be tight so we might not know the outcome until early morning.

In Iowa, Republicans are gearing up for the Ames Straw Poll on Saturday, an early test of strength in the race for the GOP presidential nomination. One person not on the ballot is Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who this week has made it as clear as he can — short of a formal declaration — that he intends to run.

According to Politico, “the Texas governor will remove any doubt about his White House intentions during his appearance at a RedState conference in Charleston” Saturday.

According to Gallup, “Perry will start in a strong position relative to other candidates if he decides to enter the presidential race soon. Perry’s Positive Intensity Score is the highest of any Republican tested, and significantly higher than that of presumptive GOP front-runner Mitt Romney.”

Gallup derives its “Positive Intensity Score” by subtracting a candidate’s strongly unfavorable sentiment from strongly favorable.

And finally, in the first poll of its type I’ve seen in the aftermath of the debt ceiling debacle, CNN asked 1,080 Americans how they’re feeling these days about Republicans, Democrats and the Tea Party.

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A month ago, the GOP’s numbers in the same poll were 41 percent approval, 55 percent disapproval. For Democrats, they were 45 percent approval, 49 percent disapproval.

And of course, as a variety of polls have reported, the reputation of Congress in general is in the pits. CNN reports that just 41 percent of Americans believe their own congressman deserves re-election, “the first time ever in CNN polling that that figure has dropped below 50 percent.”

As Charlie Cook notes:

“We could very well see a situation where voters just start throwing incumbents out of windows, with those in competitive seats situated closer to the open windows. Only in the 1992 election, just after the twin House Bank and House Post Office scandals, have we seen an election with more than 10 House incumbents of each party losing reelection to the opposite party, and that was after an unusually large number of retirements and primary-election defeats. Worth noting is that was a post-redistricting election, just as 2012 is. But this one could be much worse than 1992, this is far more consequential than personal financial peccadilloes.”

– Jay Bookman

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The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 9th, 2011
6:18 pm

“OBAMA PLAN: ‘DESTROY ROMNEY’… ”

If he can destroy Romney like he has the economy, mission accomplished.

Bosch

August 9th, 2011
6:18 pm

Matti,

Please use restraint my dear, remember we do what we do not for self-glory but for the good of all humanity (even the selfish “I got mine” neocons). Always remember our sacrifices are ultimately for the greater good! Now I’m off to scour the rooftops to put an end to injustice and those who purport evil! Away!

jewcowboy

August 9th, 2011
6:19 pm

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 9th, 2011
6:19 pm

Bosch
9th, 2011
5:58 pm

Are you a male stripper?

Left wing management

August 9th, 2011
6:19 pm

jewcowboy: “On a separate note, it gives me a perverse pleasure so many religious zealots embrace Star Trek…the ultimate mythology for Secular Humanists. It’s kind of the same perverse pleasure I get from watching anti-gay bigots dancing to the “YMCA” at weddings…”

Absolutely. :)

Not to mention how their beloved athletes smack each other on the behind to celebrate that great play!

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 9th, 2011
6:20 pm

“On a separate note, it gives me a perverse pleasure so many religious zealots embrace Star Trek…the ultimate mythology for Secular Humanists.”

While it may not espouse a formal religious philosophy, Star Trek very much mentions faith in a higher power throughout it’s many iterations.

Not exactly secular humanism, jewcowboy.

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 9th, 2011
6:20 pm

Ah yes, the effects of a “progressive” paradise:

AOLHUFFPO DEBACLE: SHARES PLUNGE 25%…

SUBSCRIBERS FLEE…

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 9th, 2011
6:22 pm

Darn those U.S. Tea partiers!!!

RIOTS BREAK OUT AROUND GLOBE AMID ECONOMIC ANXIETY

Bosch

August 9th, 2011
6:22 pm

Leg

I always thought if someone wanted to pay to see me naked then it is my obligation to take their money! After all despite my liberal leanings I am a capitalist!

Brosephus

August 9th, 2011
6:22 pm

Oh geeezzzz… I see it’s the same old same.

Still trying to make the looting and stuff in London all about the Blacks. I guess Blacks are the only ones who exhibit that behavior and act that way. Maybe you need to let these White kids wearing hoodies, gloves, and masks in this video know that they are behaving like Blacks and you good wholesome White people here will not tolerate it. :roll:

http://www.cnn.com/video/standard.html#/video/world/2011/08/09/natpkg.uk.london.riots.cnn

Who actually stayed and voted and did their damn job. The chicken-sht Dmocrats who ran away are the ones that should recalled. So sad.

If it were that damned important, Republicans could have organized recall elections for Democratic Senators as well. The mere fact that they failed miserably in that endeavor, along with the fact that they tried to run roadblock candidates in earlier elections really show that they don’t have a leg to stand on in the recall stuff. As it has been said, if the people of Wisconsin appreciates what they did for Walker, they don’t have to worry about losing their jobs, even if the Democrats ran Jesus himself against them.

jewcowboy

August 9th, 2011
6:23 pm

Dave R.

“Star Trek very much mentions faith in a higher power throughout it’s many iterations.

Not exactly secular humanism, jewcowboy.”

Gene Roddenberry would very much disagree with you, as would the writing team. Sorry to disappoint you. Were you also under the impression that “YMCA” was about after school sports?

http://sidmennt.is/2006/08/16/every-religion-has-a-mythology/

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 9th, 2011
6:24 pm

This from the UK Telegraph…..those racists.

What colour is Mark Duggan? Mark Duggan is the man who was shot dead by the police on Thursday in Tottenham. The Tottenham riots last night were sparked when people protested his death. This morning, I first heard of the riots on the radio, then on the television. I read articles on the internet. But oddly, no one would say what colour Mark Duggan was. No one would say the unsayable, that the rioters were, I suspect on the whole, black. Then, finally, Toby Young’s Telegraph blog post on the riots was published. Is Toby Young the only journalist out there who will dare say that these riots are about race?

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 9th, 2011
6:25 pm

Bosch
August 9th, 2011
6:22 pm

Ha ha, good one! I just had the mental image of a night job and a cape. Why I went in that direction is beyond me….

Bosch

August 9th, 2011
6:27 pm

You Star Trek people really need to watch Battlesrar Galactica. It has more religion than church.

pat

August 9th, 2011
6:28 pm

Not even Brett Favre lives in WI, who give a lightning white a$$….

Disgusted

August 9th, 2011
6:29 pm

Ha ha, good one! I just had the mental image of a night job and a cape. Why I went in that direction is beyond me….

Aren’t flashers supposed to wear raincoats?

Bosch

August 9th, 2011
6:29 pm

Leg,

Well it’s obvious isn’t it? You were thinking about me naked dancing on a stage. It’s not the first time I’ve heard that. :)

jewcowboy

August 9th, 2011
6:30 pm

josef

August 9th, 2011
6:30 pm

BOSCH

One of the things that I liked so much about Babylon 5 was the weaving of the religious into the characters’ lives and motivations…and yet the creator was himself an atheist…

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 9th, 2011
6:30 pm

Well, our first shot at attempting to fill a committee with people who are serious about controlling spending was made with a cork gun.

FLASH: Kerry, Murray, Baucus Picked for ‘Super Committee’…

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 9th, 2011
6:31 pm

Disgusted
August 9th, 2011
6:29 pm

Was Gene Kelly a flasher? :cool:

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 9th, 2011
6:33 pm

You know the democrats are desperate when they view the 2012 general election as hinging on a recall election of 6 state senators in Wisconsin.

muuuwwwaaaAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 9th, 2011
6:33 pm

jewcowboy, Roddenberry was very specific to not include any specific references to religion in his scripts, and the writers maintained that throughout the many different series.

HOWEVER, belief in a higher power was mentioned numerous times throughout, therefore your secular humanism theory fails in the face of actual scripts and dialogue.

Bosch

August 9th, 2011
6:33 pm

Jewcowboys

Shhhhhhhh.

Josef,
I love that too when writers do that – it goes to show that atheists aren’t completely void of spirituality

jewcowboy

August 9th, 2011
6:34 pm

Bosch,

“It has more religion than church.”

I’ll stick to Star Trek thank you. Patrick Stewart rocks my world.

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 9th, 2011
6:36 pm

jewcowboy
August 9th, 2011
6:34 pm

“Patrick Stewart rocks my world.”

James Brown in “The Blues Brothers” rocks my world.

jewcowboy

August 9th, 2011
6:36 pm

Dave R.,

“HOWEVER, belief in a higher power was mentioned numerous times throughout, therefore your secular humanism theory fails in the face of actual scripts and dialogue”

You can read into scripts and shows whatever you wish. I’ll go with the show’s creator and writers on their intent.

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 9th, 2011
6:38 pm

The early Jean-Luc Picard didn’t do much for me. Later on, he became more like James T. Kirk and was more interesting when trying to figure out when he’d channel one of the other.

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 9th, 2011
6:38 pm

Hey, Obama HAS made an impression internationally:

London rioters: ‘Showing the rich we do what we want’

jewcowboy

August 9th, 2011
6:39 pm

Dave R.,

And for the record, yes higher power was mention many times…just usually in a request to the Chief Engineer. When it related to religion, it was dismiss it as hokem.

josef

August 9th, 2011
6:39 pm

BOSCH

If you ever get the chance, read some of his interviews when he talked about that…one of the few atheists I’ve ever heard give the religious the same respect he wants for himself and his own beliefs. He was really open-minded and not at all tent revivalist about it…

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 9th, 2011
6:39 pm

“You can read into scripts and shows whatever you wish. I’ll go with the show’s creator and writers on their intent.”

Yeah, ’cause “intent” is so much more factual than actual words on paper and spoken on the screen . . . ;)

jewcowboy

August 9th, 2011
6:41 pm

Leg Lamp,

“James Brown in “The Blues Brothers” rocks my world.”

Cab Calloway in the same movie rocks mine: http://youtu.be/2iyB5Rf4PaY

Bosch

August 9th, 2011
6:42 pm

Jewcowboy

Well Edward James Olmos rocks mine and them there is Helo played by Tahmoh Penikett. For a dude he is pretty handsome and of course that show has the goddess of all goddeses known as “Six.” Sigh……

Colla'Greeniqua

August 9th, 2011
6:42 pm

“CNN reports that just 41 percent of Americans believe their own congressman deserves re-election,…”

Gotta believe most of the anger is directed @ Republicans. They definitely blinked first in the recent standoff. All the media bloviating about how the Dems gave in is a pantload. The Elephants caved when they agreed to raise the debt ceiling today and maybe/possibly reduce some spending (to be determined by an as-yet unnamed committee) over the next 10 years.

out of the blue

August 9th, 2011
6:43 pm

Now I’ve heard it all “RNC Chair says GOP’s Historic Unpopularity Shows Americans Are Upset With Obama”

well, Priebus if you say so!

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 9th, 2011
6:44 pm

jewcowboy
August 9th, 2011
6:41 pm

I don’t know if I ever heard more sustained laughter in a theater than I did when James Brown hit the pulpit and he and the congregation performed in “The Blues Brother”. I had to go to the bathroom after that one.

jewcowboy

August 9th, 2011
6:46 pm

Bosch,

“Edward James Olmos”

Pretty hot in Miami Vice…

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 9th, 2011
6:46 pm

Darn those tea partiers:

“Obama Faces Backlash From Left Amid Economic Uncertainty”

jewcowboy

August 9th, 2011
6:47 pm

Dave R.,

As I said, read into what you will…

“He, himself, was a secular humanist and made it well-known to writers of STAR TREK and STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION that religion and superstition and mystical thinking were not to be part of his universe. On Roddenberry’s future Earth, everyone is an atheist. And that world is the better for it.”

People find Jesus in pancakes…it doesn’t surprise me someone would b@st@rdize something to find a religious message when there is none if they feel the need.

jewcowboy

August 9th, 2011
6:49 pm

The filter doesn’t like b@st@rdize? Hmmm…I guess I I’ll have to use vitiated from now on.

Bosch

August 9th, 2011
6:49 pm

Jewcowboy,

And a complete bad ass as Commander Bill Adama in BG! He would so totally kick Patrick Stewart’s ass! :)

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 9th, 2011
6:49 pm

“CNN reports that just 41 percent of Americans believe their own congressman deserves re-election,…”

I’ll believe that when I see it. Dems will continue to re-elect Dems, Republicans with continue to re-elect Republicans, and the 50-80 some-odd seats in the middle with continue to swing back and forth.

Gerrymandering ensures the above will remain a constant.

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 9th, 2011
6:50 pm

Man oh man, Obama is getting his just desserts:

“Kansas returns health insurance exchange grant”

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 9th, 2011
6:51 pm

Dave R. – 3k/4k/5k
August 9th, 2011
6:49 pm

Harumph, harumph!!

jewcowboy

August 9th, 2011
6:51 pm

Bosch,

“He would so totally kick Patrick Stewart’s ass! ”

You mean lick?

Bosch

August 9th, 2011
6:51 pm

Meh phone is almost dead no more happy hour porch blogging for me. Pleasant evening all!

Bruno

August 9th, 2011
6:52 pm

Bosch–one reason why govt asst doesn’t bother me is that it gives more purchasing power to more people thereby expanding our economy – it’s one way the govt spending helps the economy – none of the money is saved it is put right back in the accts of many private companies.

josef–And for the life of me, I can’t see how otherwise reasonable people cannot see that…

Bosch, josef, Matti, etc–I think you guys might be missing the point. No one denies that money given to non-workers ends up recirculating through the system. No problem there. The problem is that these folks are not contributing any labor back into the system in exchange for the money they receive. Putting any moral or ethical arguments aside, the end result is less production in the system. As such, the system suffers by giving people money without demanding anything in return.

My personal opinion is that anyone receiving unemployment monies or welfare monies should be required to work for their stipends, even if it means picking up trash from along the highway. As a great man once said “Work will set you free.” (j/k josef)

jewcowboy

August 9th, 2011
6:52 pm

Bosch,

You forget…Stewart is also CIA Director…

AmVet

August 9th, 2011
6:53 pm

jcb, welcome back.

Gawd knows another rational, informed and sane voice is welcome here.

I must compliment my blogging brethren for their restraint and fairly respectable behavior downstairs.

So the United States Congress has abysmal ratings these days? Do tell?

And the GOP is dragging them down even further? Geez, that is even easy to do.

Regarding the supposed backlash, I’d love to see my rep, Tom Price get sent packing back to the private sector, but who are we kidding? The lamebrains in this district would vote for Stalin if he had an R after his name.

As I said yesterday this debt debacle has made both parties looked REAL ugly, but the fake conservatives are probably gonna get hammered more over their stupid little stunts. At least among the cogent.

And the unevolved Rick Perry, who wants to teach that goofball Intelligent Design in public science classrooms, has no chance of sitting in the West Wing, ever. His background of moronic positions and own imbecilic statements will sink him like the Nazis sank the Lusitania…

(Unless the Bushbots “rise” to the occasion again!)

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 9th, 2011
6:53 pm

jewcowboy, I’m an agnostic, so I have no need to find religion anywhere.

That I find it (however limited) in Star Trek, despite someone’s biased definition of what they thought Roddenberry’s edicts were, is simple fact.

d

August 9th, 2011
6:53 pm

god damn americans are stupid

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 9th, 2011
6:55 pm

d
August 9th, 2011
6:53 pm

Based on the 2008 Presidential Election, I’d have to agree.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36×8rTb3jI

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 9th, 2011
6:56 pm

Oh, and jewcowboy, you need to quit thinking that “religion” and “belief in a higher power” are the same thing.

They are not.

jewcowboy

August 9th, 2011
6:56 pm

“god damn americans are stupid’

Says someone who can’t muster more than a mono-syllable moniker.

jewcowboy

August 9th, 2011
6:59 pm

Dave R.,

“Oh, and jewcowboy, you need to quit thinking that “religion” and “belief in a higher power” are the same thing.”

I’m not…it’s just in the universe of Star Trek “higher power” translates to human reason and science…not a mythical Spéir Faerie.

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

August 9th, 2011
7:00 pm

Darn that loser, Nathan Deal!!

“State’s new fiscal year starts with a sharp rise in revenues”

DBCOOPER

August 9th, 2011
7:01 pm

Kansas returns health insurance exchange grant. The sixth state to do so.

More rejection to an idiotic program. It will probably never be accepted except by the growing dependant class. The sic: Transparent way it was passed has much to do with it’s rejection. Now that its been passed and we have had a chance to read it…..stand-by

jewcowboy

August 9th, 2011
7:01 pm

Dave R.,

Which corresponds with my own belief in a higher power.

“Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” ~ Carl Sagan

AmVet

August 9th, 2011
7:02 pm

Lamp, you’re just deflecting for having voted for W twice.

And if the foo sh*ts, wear it!

religion –noun

1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

DBCOOPER

August 9th, 2011
7:03 pm

Perry, scary, Carie….who cares? Anybody could do better than these losers!

jewcowboy

August 9th, 2011
7:04 pm

Leg Lamp,

“Darn that loser, Nathan Deal!!”

Awesome! Please detail which programs and legislation enacted by Deal specifically have contributed to gains in revenue. And please cite numbers and your sources.

carlosgvv

August 9th, 2011
7:04 pm

How I would love to see voters across the Country recall all those Tea Party politicians in Congress who were ready, willing and almost able to put us in default and then cheer about it.

Granny Godzilla

August 9th, 2011
7:05 pm

So is John Galt now a retired sock puppet?

Anyway, if you are ever in Wisconsin may I suggest a stop at Mars Cheese Castle. On I94 between Chicago and Milwaukee, in Kenosha, it’s really really yummy.

And may I also suggest a icy cold Leinenkugel from up in Chippewaw Falls.

God Bless Wisconsin.

jewcowboy

August 9th, 2011
7:09 pm

Granny Godzilla,

I’m sure Wisconsin offers many local delicacies…however, and this may come off as a bit snobbish, it way far down on my travel destinations. I just had to bump Kiev for Buffalo, NY b/c now I have a wedding to attend.

josef

August 9th, 2011
7:10 pm

BRUNO

The bulk of those households receiving food stamps have heads of household who are employed…the idea that those on “handouts” do not work is a canard…the working poor are a significant portion of our population. Frauds and cheats, while certainly there, are no where near the “threat” so many want to claim…

Soothsayer

August 9th, 2011
7:11 pm

“And may I also suggest a icy cold Leinenkugel from up in Chippewaw Falls.”

You don’t figure they know how to make some good beer up there in Wisconsin, do you?

Don't Forget

August 9th, 2011
7:13 pm

Bruno, if you’re doing it right, searching for a job IS a job.

Brosephus

August 9th, 2011
7:15 pm

In the grand scheme of things, the Wisconsin vote doesn’t mean much to the GOP. Even if they lost every election, that would not keep them from continuing their march to the right. In the end, we’re all the losers. This country can not and will not function as a far right paradise. Nor will it function as a far left paradise. Anybody who thinks otherwise would be much better off using their time to joust with windmills.

Granny Godzilla

August 9th, 2011
7:17 pm

jewcowboy

I can attest to WI cuisine being different from that of Macau, much less Portuguese influence for a start and I don’t mean to sound snobbish either.

Summer days on any of a gazillion blue lakes in a verdant wonderland is worth a peak.

josef

August 9th, 2011
7:17 pm

jewcowboy

Wisconsin does get a bad rap as a destination…but Milwaukee is a lot more than LaVern and Shirley. Growing up we used to go visit one of my aunts who lived there and always on the schedule was the symphony…one of the finest in the country. The resorts range from the rustic to the truly classy…beautiful countryside.

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 9th, 2011
7:20 pm

I love the intellectual dishonesty of bolding only that which you believe makes your point, while refraining from bolding the rest of the definition which debunks your point.

Only a Yankee fan could be so intellectually dishonest.

TaxPayer

August 9th, 2011
7:20 pm

Please detail which programs and legislation enacted by Deal specifically have contributed to gains in revenue. And please cite numbers and your sources.

Now THAT’s funny. :lol:

Dave R. - 3k/4k/5k

August 9th, 2011
7:21 pm

Gotta go make some dinner. Good night, all.

jewcowboy

August 9th, 2011
7:21 pm

Granny Godzilla / josef,

Perhaps that is why Americans are considered less “worldly” than our global counterparts. We have a diversity, in both geography and population, not enjoyed by most of the rest of the world.

Thulsa Doom

August 9th, 2011
7:22 pm

Just saw the news where the leader of a far right political group in Britain is vowing to post 1.000 members of his party to the streets to deter the looting and rioting of the far left violence. Hmmm. Interesting. The far right people are the ones that want the looting, violence, and senseless burning of homes and businesses to be stopped. And the people committing the acts of wanton violence and looting are of course the far left. Gee. No surprise there.

Bruno

August 9th, 2011
7:23 pm

Frauds and cheats, while certainly there, are no where near the “threat” so many want to claim…

Bruno, if you’re doing it right, searching for a job IS a job.

Obviously I’m going with anecdotal experience, but I grew up seeing a lot of welfare/govt. assistance fraud. Not my family, of course, but many families around me. One of the most fraud-laden programs I remember was a jobs training program called CETA in the 1970s. As long as you could “prove” that you were training for some kind of job, you got a check. Immediately, a host of shady “trade schools” popped up which trained people for everything from HVAC work to body drumming. And lest you think I’m making up the body drumming part, a man actually sued the State when they threatened to cut off his funds for training for exactly that.

I still think requiring something back would be a win-win situation. It would definitely raise the motivation level of the job seekers.

Granny Godzilla

August 9th, 2011
7:23 pm

Peek. As in a short look. Sorry.

Peak. Summer nights on any of a gazillon lakes.

md

August 9th, 2011
7:25 pm

“As you know, I’ll be the first to admit that “economics” is alien territory to me…but from my illiterate perspective, the “ability” to pay was not in question, the “mechanism” was and the conclusion was that the failure to meet the needs of the mechanism brought the ability into question…”

Jo,

Yes, but historically, the ‘mechanism” has always come through in the end……..until it does not, it’s just talk…….and talk should be discounted for what it is…………..

I can tell my bankers to go F themselves……..but my credit and ability to pay are not affected until I do not pay……………

JKL2

August 9th, 2011
7:27 pm

jewcowboy- Funny how Wisconsin was a reasonable state with reasonable people until a Republican Gov. decided to play extreme politics…

You would be correct if you took out Madison and Milwakee first. The same wingnuts who ruin the state are seeing what they can do with big union money behind them. Hopefully the people will win but I have my doubts.

Bruno

August 9th, 2011
7:34 pm

Lamp, you’re just deflecting for having voted for W twice.

AmVet–I voted for W twice, and would again in a heartbeat if he was facing the same opposition.

BTW, who have you been voting for?? I couldn’t get Bosch to come clean re his own voting record.

How about you, DF?? When’s the last time you voted for a Republican?? You accused me of being a hyper-partisan the other day, but I’ve voted for plenty of Democrats along the way, including the last election cycle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qU4nR0UPnE

josef

August 9th, 2011
7:34 pm

It’s kind of interesting to put Thulsa’s @ 7:22 up against jewcowboy’s @ 7:21…while we have our problems here in the USA we also have this tremendous expanse of space to escape into and a wonderful diversity of people and cultures which are all “American…” The Europeans are locked into a crowded space where cultural diversity is more an elbow-to-elbow thing…

lucifer

August 9th, 2011
7:35 pm

Wisconsin’s Walker marches to the beat of the Koch brothers. He wants to widen the gap between the rich and the poor. Actually, when he ran for office he said nothing about dismantling organized labor. He is a puppet for the rich. But he has underestimated the Wisconsin motto of being for the working man. Indeed, Wisconsin is the birthplace of organized labor. He has overplayed his hand and his dreams of being Ronald Reagan II will begin evaporating today as all six Republican senators are washed away in the recall. Walker himself will vanish early next year when he himself is recalled. Let this be a lesson to the rich and powerful — you may have all the money, but average Joes still control the ballot box when you get them pissed off!

Don't Forget

August 9th, 2011
7:40 pm

In fact, the housing bubble was very, very good for the ratings agencies — Standard & Poor’s fees from mortgage-related bond issues quadrupled from $64 million to $265 million between 2002 and 2006, the report found.

http://redtape.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/08/09/7321296-was-sp-downgrade-an-act-of-revenge

@@

August 9th, 2011
7:41 pm

If their recall efforts are successful, here’s hoping the citizens of Wisconsin have deeeeeep pockets.

Greg Gutfeld said something today that pretty much hit the mark with me:

“Barack Obama is a person without a principle, and the Tea Party is a principle without a person.

Kewl!

It’s Green Tomato and Vidalia Onion Relish tonight. This canning stuff is kinda fun.

Granny Godzilla

August 9th, 2011
7:42 pm

jewcowboy

so true.

kayaker 71

August 9th, 2011
7:42 pm

Bozo laments the fact that he cannot level the divide between the haves and have nots. The rioters in the UK hate the “rich business owners” who have more than they have. Corporate jets, evil corporations, rich oil companies, strong unions…. if you don’t see a connect between these two then you are asleep or just not listening.

out of the blue

August 9th, 2011
7:45 pm

All you Wisconsin beer drinkers. Do you remember this? The bears going through the rapids, and coming down with the lyrics….From the land of sky blue waters.

I still have a mug featuring the bears from the 1973 Oktoberfest held in Appleton!

Soothsayer

August 9th, 2011
7:45 pm

Bruno

August 9th, 2011
7:45 pm

Yes, but historically, the ‘mechanism” has always come through in the end……..until it does not, it’s just talk…….and talk should be discounted for what it is…………..

md–The Libs (josef excluded) have been having multiple orgasms since the Repubs “threatened” to “shut down the government”. Gave them all the evidence they needed to conclude that the Republicans are evil incarnate. As if they needed any evidence to draw that conclusion.

Brosephus–If you didn’t see it earlier, I gave you high praise for being one of the few intellectually honest folks who recognized that the breakdown in the negotiating process during the budget talks was a two-sided proposition. Jay and his Lib contingency have it all worked out that it was strictly a one-sided affair.

Bosch

August 9th, 2011
7:48 pm

Damn blog addiction -

Bruno,

What Josef said plus the fact that I have no problem with people who are not employed giving back but as Josef pointed out many of the people getting govt monies work….

Bruno

August 9th, 2011
7:49 pm

It’s Green Tomato and Vidalia Onion Relish tonight. This canning stuff is kinda fun.

@@–I had to drop by my former office yesterday, and was saddened to see that the This Is It restaurant on 138 and Old National is now defunct. I was looking forward to a vegetable plate with lamb. Auntie’s BBQ on GA-85 is now Master’s BBQ. The only good news was that the City Buffet in the Kroger shopping center at Bethsaida and GA-85 was still going strong. All you can eat for lunch, including sushi, for only $5.99. Add a soda and tip, and you’re out the door in a wheelbarrow for under $10.

kayaker 71

August 9th, 2011
7:50 pm

Time to practice the cello….. save the TaTas, Gods most magnificent creation.

Bruno

August 9th, 2011
7:50 pm

Bosch–Have you voted for anyone but Democrats in the past 5-10-15-20 years??

Granny Godzilla

August 9th, 2011
7:51 pm

JKL2

What percentage of Wisconsin lives in urban versus rural areas?

It’s a extremely important question to anyone who thinks that taking out the cities is going to help their argument.

Bosch

August 9th, 2011
7:51 pm

Bruno

So if you are congratulating Brosephus on being honest enough to recognize the debate is two sided why didn’t you practice what you preach? You were certainly making this a ” it’s all deems ” fault argument

Bosch

August 9th, 2011
7:52 pm

And that should be Dem instead of deem

Bruno

August 9th, 2011
7:52 pm

Also, Bosch, I never “moved the goalposts” earlier. I’ve been asking for any tangible legislation the Dems have passed which either raised revenue or cut spending. I never included nebulous proposals or plans which never materialized. I’m trying to give you guys a chance to convince me to vote D next time.

Bosch

August 9th, 2011
7:53 pm

Bruno

Yes it’s about a 60 40 ratio for me and how bout you?

Bruno

August 9th, 2011
7:55 pm

You were certainly making this a ” it’s all deems ” fault argument

Not really, buddy. I’m primarily reacting to the Republican hate-fest led by Jay, and am questioning whether it has any basis in fact. As USinUK testified, I’ve been unhappy with the Republicans going back to 2007. Unfortunately, the Democrats have been far worse.