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July 25th, 2011
11:51 am
I’ve always said Obama, on national security issues, is right of center only because his advisers force him to be. I honestly don’t think Obama realized that national security and foreign policy would represent a large portion of his plate. A side dish, an hors d’oeuvre? Hoping beyond hope is my guess. Reality sux.
On domestic issues, he’s left….w-a-a-a-ay left and that will not change. Community organizers are founded in left-wing ideology. He couldn’t change if he wanted to. He can be driven into a corner for political gain, but given a second chance, he’ll come out to finish what he started.
Brosephus
July 25th, 2011
11:57 am
You have wisely avoided an NCAA investigation for public cheering
Whew!!!!! That was a close call…..
Doggone/GA
July 25th, 2011
11:59 am
“Community organizers are founded in left-wing ideology”
Jesus was a community organizer
Paul
July 25th, 2011
12:07 pm
[[“Community organizers are founded in left-wing ideology”
Jesus was a community organizer]]
five….. four…. three….. two…..
Mighty Righty
July 25th, 2011
12:09 pm
Enter your comments here
@@
July 25th, 2011
12:10 pm
Doggone:
Jesus was a community organizer
Where, in The Bible, does it say that?
Brosephus
July 25th, 2011
12:10 pm
One?
Mary Elizabeth
July 25th, 2011
12:12 pm
The words below are the words of Thomas Jefferson, regarding “liberal” thought. Jefferson wrote these words as the precursor to the “Declaration of Independence” and they were printed unter the title of “A Summary View of the Rights of British America.” Jefferson’s words are from the book I am currently reading entitled, “Jefferson” by Saul K. Padover:
“. . .these are our grievances which we have thus laid before his majesty, with that freedom of language and sentiment which becomes a free people clairming their rights, as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate. Let those flatter who fear, it is not an American art. . .They know. . .that kings are the servants, not the proprietors of the people.
“Open your breast, sire, to liberal and expanded thought. Let not the name of George the third be a blot on the page of history. . .”
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Jefferson was using the term “liberal” to mean “expanded thought” which comes from being highly educated (and not from subscribing to soundbites and slogans given from either right or left media).
I believe that Barack Obama has the educated vision that leaders of people (kings or presidents) should be be “servants of the people.” That is why some do not see his innate strength. We must strive to keep America, as she was designed to be, the “servant of the will of the people,” or the servant of the will of the working and middle classes – who are the majority of “the people”, and not the servant of the extremely rich and powerful.
Does anyone really want to pay an additional $6500. annually in Medicare premiums as proposed in Rep. Ryan’s plan to “save” entitlements (or dismantle them, imo). Read between the lines of what is happening to our nation.
I will post, next, my thoughts posted last Friday evening – which most did not read because most had already gone to the next thread on this blog when I posted them.
Mighty Righty
July 25th, 2011
12:16 pm
Baby Suggs
For you
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
Normal
July 25th, 2011
12:17 pm
Of course Jesus was a community organizer…I have the tee shirt.
http://www.zazzle.com/jesus_christ_was_a_community_organizer_tshirt-235823377828204326
Left wing management
July 25th, 2011
12:19 pm
@@: “On domestic issues, he’s left….w-a-a-a-ay left and that will not change. Community organizers are founded in left-wing ideology. He couldn’t change if he wanted to. He can be driven into a corner for political gain, but given a second chance, he’ll come out to finish what he started”
A man too timid to fight for a public option for health care, whose DOJ deports record numbers of suspected illegals than in the past, who is obviously very lukewarm about the prospect of gay marriage (though he does finally get around to DADT), who claims (and nothing whatsoever in his actions leads one to doubt it) to believe in the private markets as the proper place for job creation, not government, and you claim this man is socially left?
No, what I think has happened is that there has been a right wing takeover and coup that has detonated — like an earthquake under the ocean — and sent the rest of the left-right spectrum into a wild swing to the right.
In other words, you’re deluded.
Left wing management
July 25th, 2011
12:20 pm
What we call ‘conservativism’ is like the dung that falls from the anus of the current corrupt political order.
Part of me wouldn’t be entirely displeased to see the whole lot of it go down in flames.
Mary Elizabeth
July 25th, 2011
12:20 pm
My words below originally posted on July 22, 8:15 p.m.:
“About 6:30 p.m. President Obama said in his news conference that the middle and working class know that they have not been treated fairly over the last years and that they need to know that someone is looking after their interests instead of political interests (paraphrased). Speaker Boehner said in his news conference about 7:15 p.m. that an additional 400 billion in revenue was asked over the next 10 years, and he said he was not willing to take that money from the “job creators” in greater taxes.
Eventually, the American people are going to have to see that this battle is an ideological battle over the direction that our nation will move in the next decades relative to the role of government. One can understand why Republicans are holding so firm at this time, when one recognizes that this present debt ceiling crisis, for them, is the culmination of a 30 year ideological impetus for smaller government.
Middle and working class people are going to have to look boldly at who is truly looking after their interests and who is looking after the interests of the powerful and extremely wealthy. They are also going to have to decide if they want safety nets through our government or not.
I support those safety nets not only for pragmatic reasons for the majority of Americans, but also because the presence of those safety nets gives testimony to the fact that American values continue to lean toward the humane.”
Adam
July 25th, 2011
12:20 pm
Bosch, Paul: I’m only familiar with the new BSG up tot he end of Season 2, where they decided to depress me too much so I didn’t want to continue. I may take it up again later. But for right now, only Torchwood gets to do that to me.
Mighty Righty
July 25th, 2011
12:24 pm
Mary Elizabeth
July 25th, 2011
12:12 pm
Differing views are what makes this country great. Tom was one of the “extremely rich and powerful”. I have never read anything from him that would indicate a belief in a power hungry central government.
Baby Suggs
July 25th, 2011
12:25 pm
If this is accurate the president is playing with fire. By halting a bipartisan deal he imperils the country’s finances and can rightly be accused of putting partisanship above all else. The ONLY reason to reject a short-term, two-step deal embraced by both the House and Senate is to avoid another approval-killing face-off for President Obama before the election.
How about the reasoning of “If you can put together a temporary package, then you can dang sure put together a permanent one”? Sounds reasonable to me………
@@: Community organizers are founded in left-wing ideology…
Why is that the lowest job that a black person has ever held is used to define them for all eternity? It’s like saying “Miss Sally Ann Thomas, a former typist at Ernst & Young, has been made President of the company” or “Mr. Ronald Reagan, previously an actor, is now President of the USA”.
What you’re saying is that Ronald Reagan, even though he had a stint as an actor, was always presidential; whereas Sally Ann, a typist masquerading as the company’s president, was made into a president not by her own merit, but because of some fluke in company policy.
By always denigrating Obama to his lowest job ever, you have tried to eliminate all his other accomplishments. How about Senator Obama, or Professor Obama or even LAWYER Obama? Nope, those titles say “Respect”, and you just can’t for the live of you give the man any respect can you?
Message from Matti
July 25th, 2011
12:31 pm
Baby Suggs,
You nailed it at 12:25. By always denigrating Obama to his lowest job ever, you have tried to eliminate all his other accomplishments. How about Senator Obama, or Professor Obama or even LAWYER Obama? Nope, those titles say “Respect”, and you just can’t for the live of you give the man any respect can you?
Selfish and bigoted, they have no respect for anyone who doesn’t directly float their own boats. (To heck with everyone else’s boat!)I wish Republicans loved America as much as they hate our President.
Paul
July 25th, 2011
12:36 pm
“Speaker Boehner said in his news conference about 7:15 p.m. that an additional 400 billion in revenue was asked over the next 10 years, and he said he was not willing to take that money from the “job creators” in greater taxes.”
I’ve asked before and I’ll ask again.
How many jobs to the jobs creators Pelosi and Soros create?
How many jobs do the hedge fund managers create?
BADA BING
July 25th, 2011
12:41 pm
CNN releases picture showing Amy Winehouse ‘Planking’ in morgue. What a joker!
mm
July 25th, 2011
12:41 pm
“The republicans are busy negotiating, offering proposals, passing real options and the democrats are fear mongering and pouting but they have no real solution, nothing on the table.”
You repubs are such liars. The prez offered up 4 trillion in spending cuts, and the repubs offered up nothing. Your comment is a complete lie.
But that’s what get’s the repubs elected. LIES.
And an unbelievable number of stupid people fall for their lies.
Mary Elizabeth
July 25th, 2011
12:49 pm
MR @ 12:24
You are correct that Jefferson was part of the “rich and powerful” of his day but he came from more humble roots in that his father, Peter Jefferson, acquired land by “surveying it, enduring hardships that killed weaker men.” Peter Jefferson married above his class status but Jefferson identified with his father. Jefferson said this about his father, “My father’s education had been quite neglected,. . .but being of a strong mind, sound judgment and eager after information, he read much and improved himself.” The author of the book I am reading about Jefferson wrote that “Peter Jefferson was in the great American tradition, self-made and self-educated.” The author also says that “It would be an exaggeration to say that Thomas Jefferson was not fond of his mother’s family, but he did resent the Randolphs’ claim to superiority of birth. As a boy be boasted of his father’s humble origins and scoffed at his mother’s aristocracy.”
I agree with many of Jefferson’s concepts and appreciate his rich and complex mind, but I agree more with George Washington’s and Alexander Hamilton’s views that the role of a stronger central government keeps the nation unified and viable. Of course, states’ rights and strong central government must balance one another, but ultimately, as designed by our forefathers all, the central government must take precedence.
We are in danger, today, of not seeing the machinations of the “robber baron” class of this nation, who control many banking industries and corporations, which will take control away from the middle and working class people through the use of deliberate propaganda to divide the middle and working classes to pit them against one another. As Lincoln said, this “government of the people, for the people, and by the people shall not perish from the Earth.” Lincoln gave his life that the forefathers’ vision of our nation may live into the future. We are the government, public and private sectors alike, and we should not be divided but keep this nation the servant of the people.
I dare say that anyone who has the time to blog on this blog is not part of the “robber baron” class.
poison pen
July 25th, 2011
12:52 pm
Mary E.
” I will post, next, my thoughts posted last Friday evening – which most did not read because most had already gone to the next thread on this blog when I posted them. ”
Has it ever occured to you that there might be another reason why no one reads your posts ?
Left wing management
July 25th, 2011
12:53 pm
Paul: “How many jobs to the jobs creators Pelosi and Soros create?
How many jobs do the hedge fund managers create?”:
Oh, a handful here and there to be sure.
Accountants, lawyers, perhaps Upper East Side nannies and tutors and bellhops.
poison pen
July 25th, 2011
12:55 pm
” Lincoln gave his life that the forefathers’ vision of our nation may live into the future”
Actually I think he was murdered, I don’t think he wanted to die.
Left wing management
July 25th, 2011
12:57 pm
Mary Elizabeth: “I dare say that anyone who has the time to blog on this blog is not part of the “robber baron” class. ”
Not so much a question of time, but desire.
Kamchak
July 25th, 2011
12:58 pm
Has it ever occured[sic] to you that there might be another reason why no one reads your posts ?
I read her posts, and I visit her blog.
Has it ever occurred to you that you don’t have the authority to speak for anyone other than yourself?
Aquagirl
July 25th, 2011
12:59 pm
Baby Suggs,You nailed it at 12:25.
Add my thumbs-up too. Did Rush refer to GW Bush as “insider trading suspect?”
poison pen
July 25th, 2011
1:03 pm
Kamchak
Has it ever occured[sic] to you that there might be another reason why no one reads your posts ?
I read her posts, and I visit her blog.
” Has it ever occurred to you that you don’t have the authority to speak for anyone other than yourself?”
Well good for you,as a free blogI can say what I want. If you don’t like what I say then don’t read them. Duh!
Baby Suggs
July 25th, 2011
1:05 pm
I wish Republicans loved America as much as they hate our President.
Republicans feed on hate, fear and ignorance. IMO They feel that’s the only way to keep their “party” together.
Paul
July 25th, 2011
1:06 pm
left wing management 12:53
Wow. Thanks. I suppose that’s why Republicans are fighting tooth and nail to keep the job creators from being taxed any more. Or in the case of the hedge fund folks, paying any income tax at all.
Hey, this would be fund. Right is always listing the cost per job from the stimulus. Maybe someone on the Left can compute the foregone taxes on the Job Creators and figure out the cost per job for that?
Paul
July 25th, 2011
1:07 pm
Yeah, there’s a good question:
“Speaker Boehner, how many jobs are the jobs creators going to create?”
hmmm… ‘how many jobs could a job creator create if a job creator could create jobs?”
Mary Elizabeth
July 25th, 2011
1:08 pm
poison pen @ 12:52, 12:55 p.m.
I feel sorry for you. You continue to have a need bring this blog down with low level personal insults instead of discussing ideas.
You obviously have not studied Lincoln. Like Martin Luther King, Jr, Lincoln had historical vision, and he, like King, was aware of the historical forces that surrounded him and aware of the people who were subject to those forces. Both men no doubt wanted to live; but both men carried on with their destinies, and God-given destines as they perceived them ro be, in spite of the negative forces surrounding them. They both well knew what the result of their courage could mean for them personally.
Normal
July 25th, 2011
1:09 pm
Paul
July 25th, 2011
1:07 pm
Cute. Very cute.
USinUK
July 25th, 2011
1:10 pm
Paul – 1:07 –
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July 25th, 2011
1:11 pm
Left wing management:
A man too timid to fight for a public option for health care, whose DOJ deports record numbers of suspected illegals than in the past, who is obviously very lukewarm about the prospect of gay marriage (though he does finally get around to DADT), who claims (and nothing whatsoever in his actions leads one to doubt it) to believe in the private markets as the proper place for job creation, not government, and you claim this man is socially left?
That’s a politician trying to have it both ways. But on Obamacare? That’s a shrewd politician looking to have it ALL in the end.
Baby Suggs:
By always denigrating Obama to his lowest job ever, you have tried to eliminate all his other accomplishments. How about Senator Obama, or Professor Obama or even LAWYER Obama? Nope, those titles say “Respect”, and you just can’t for the live of you give the man any respect can you?
The only one he held for a substantial length of time was Senator…quickly gave that one up to run for President.
Obama’s only experience in the private sector was when he worked for a consulting house to multi-national corporations. In his book he says he was hired as a research assistant. One of his co-workers there said he was a copy editor just like the rest of ‘em. That co-worker, btw, supported Obama in 2008.
@@
July 25th, 2011
1:16 pm
Oh, and Baby Suggs?
Why is that the lowest job that a black person has ever held is used to define them for all eternity?
Why is it that when a black conservative succeeds on the national state, many on the left use Uncle Tom and House Mammy to define THEM?
Bruno
July 25th, 2011
1:17 pm
USinUK gone for the day?? I had a song for her.
Well, since she’s not here, for Matti and Mary Elizabeth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3ZryyTDaOk
Baby Suggs
July 25th, 2011
1:20 pm
@@: The only one he held for a substantial length of time was Senator…quickly gave that one up to run for President.
Lies. A quick google would’ve stopped you from repeating lies you’ve heard someone else say. It’s always better to read things for yourself than to repeat something that you’ve heard said by a pundit. PS: Not everyone’s dream job is working in the “Private Sector”. Herman Cain did and judging by his myriad of inconsistent, irascible and blantatly bigoted ramblings, it didn’t do him much good.
Froom Google: He was a community organizer in Chicago before earning his law degree. He worked as a civil rights attorney in Chicago and taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. He served three terms representing the 13th district in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004.
Following an unsuccessful bid against the Democratic incumbent for a seat in the United States House of Representatives in 2000, Obama ran for United States Senate in 2004. Several events brought him to national attention during the campaign, including his victory in the March 2004 Democratic primary and his keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July 2004. He won election to the U.S. Senate in Illinois in November 2004.
Left wing management
July 25th, 2011
1:20 pm
Paul: Wow. Thanks. I suppose that’s why Republicans are fighting tooth and nail to keep the job creators from being taxed any more. Or in the case of the hedge fund folks, paying any income tax at all.
Well to be fair the hedge-fundies are paying all of 15% on their income as capital gains. How generous!
But as Warren Buffett has pointed out, not as generous as his hard-working secretary.
Hey, this would be fund. Right is always listing the cost per job from the stimulus. Maybe someone on the Left can compute the foregone taxes on the Job Creators and figure out the cost per job for that?
Well indeed. But the problem is that there is no one on the left, unlike the right, with the guts to grab babies and threaten to toss them into the fire pit unless the media and the opposition agree to bow to the claim that revoking tax expenditures is not the same thing as a tax increase. And while they’re at it, they’ll not stop terrorizing until the top tax rates are raised to — wait for it — 100%.
That’s right. It’s time to start talking about 100% tax rates for top earners. Now THAT’s what will snap the Beltway pundits out of their slumber and rejigger their perspective on what CENTRISM is.
CENTRIST is the perfectly rational position that the top earners need to be paying us ALL of what they scrape off the economy, not part of it.
Baby Suggs
July 25th, 2011
1:21 pm
Oh wait, LAWYER would be part of that esteemed “Private Sector” wouldn’t it?
USinUK
July 25th, 2011
1:22 pm
Bruno – nope – here, lurking and faffing around
wow – haven’t heard that song in AGES!
since we’re going down the road of great stuff you don’t hear anymore, here’s one I think you’ll like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHZV7NOqEY4
Mary Elizabeth
July 25th, 2011
1:23 pm
Left wing management @ 12:57 p.m. – True!
Bruno @ 1:17 p.m. – Thanks for the song!
Baby Suggs
July 25th, 2011
1:25 pm
Why is it that when a black conservative succeeds on the national state, many on the left use Uncle Tom and House Mammy to define THEM?
I wouldn’t know. Since I directed my question to YOUR comments that you’d made previously, I shouldn’t be asked to be called upon to answer a red herring thrown into the mix to diffuse it (your statement). Sorry.
Granny Godzilla
July 25th, 2011
1:27 pm
I have yet to see anybody call Herman Cain either of those offensive terms.
I have however seen multiple righties wonder when the left will.
Is that some more of that there GOP projection stuff?
Kinda like calling President Obama the Messiah…..
Mary Elizabeth
July 25th, 2011
1:28 pm
Kamchak @ 12:58 p.m.
Thanks!
Bruno
July 25th, 2011
1:30 pm
USinUK–Nice tune, haven’t heard any Suzanne Vega in a while.
Don’t forget to keep me posted on the new stuff. You know me, desperately clinging to the past…….
Best wishes to all.
Midori
July 25th, 2011
1:31 pm
Rock on, Baby Suggs
Midori
July 25th, 2011
1:31 pm
Hi Bruno
still being a slut??
Normal
July 25th, 2011
1:32 pm
Granny G,
It seems to me that most of the “Left” are still into good manners.
Dave R.
July 25th, 2011
1:33 pm
Abe Lincoln was an over-blown, over-awed, over-reaching Federalist who did more to expand the powers of the Federal government than any President previously, and wasn’t eclipsed until Teddy R. and Franklin Delano came on the scene, respectively.
By preserving the Union, he doomed it by beginning it’s inexorable slide into underwhelming nanny-statism.
Baby Suggs
July 25th, 2011
1:35 pm
LWM: CENTRIST is the perfectly rational position that the top earners need to be paying us ALL of what they scrape off the economy, not part of it.
I can see Ann Coulter now feigning and fainting upon her couch, (even after she’s eaten two pieces of lettuce); and lambasting you for being a “Communist Pinko”!
Baby Suggs
July 25th, 2011
1:36 pm
For @@:
A summarized timeline of Barack Obama’s job history:
•Student, Occidental College/Columbia University, 1979-1983
•Business International Corporation, 1983
•New York Public Interest Research Group, 1984
•Community Organizer, Developing Communities Project (Chicago), 1985-1988
•Student, Harvard Law School, 1988-1991
•Editor, Harvard Law Review, 1988-1989
•President, Harvard Law Review, 1990-1991
•Summer Intern, Sidley & Austin law firm, 1989
•Summer Intern, Hopkins & Sutter law firm, 1990
•Illinois Project Vote, 1992
•Lecturer – Consitutional Law, Chicago Law School, 1992-2004
•Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland law firm, 1993-2004
•Illinois Senator, 13th District, 1996-2004
•U.S. Senator, Illinois, 2005-2008
* U.S. President, 2009 – PRESENT
USinUK
July 25th, 2011
1:36 pm
Midori – I believe B-dog prefers the term “strumpet” (I know I do!)
Dave – wow. don’t hold back – tell us what you really think!
carlosgvv
July 25th, 2011
1:37 pm
Paul 12:36 – 1:06
Well, so much for “live and let live”.
Midori
July 25th, 2011
1:40 pm
LOL, UK!!
Strumpet it is!!
Granny Godzilla
July 25th, 2011
1:41 pm
Do oil company subsidies count for nanny-statism? Sports stadiums? Subsidies to corporate farmers?
USinUK
July 25th, 2011
1:45 pm
heading off to deeeeeeeeeeeenner …
hope everyone has a great evening!
Baby Suggs
July 25th, 2011
1:45 pm
Dave R: Abe Lincoln was an over-blown, over-awed, over-reaching Federalist who did more to expand the powers of the Federal government than any President previously, and wasn’t eclipsed until Teddy R. and Franklin Delano came on the scene, respectively.
KUDOS! You’ve just mentioned three of the best Presidents in our history and I believe two of them have their images engraved on Mt. Rushmore. It seems that you may be in the minority in your opinion, but I’m thinking you’re probably used to that…………
Fred
July 25th, 2011
1:47 pm
Doggone/GA
July 25th, 2011
11:59 am
“Community organizers are founded in left-wing ideology”
Jesus was a community organizer
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Get it correct please. He was not a community organizer, he was a radical instigator.
His idea of fun was to go to Church on the Sabbath and pick a fight with the Preacher and Elders………
@@
July 25th, 2011
1:48 pm
Suggs:
Even his stint at the law firm was embellished in his book.
Obama’s law days effective but brief The head of his former firm says he did good work. But not all of it was related to voting and civil rights.
Not even a Professor, per se:
Senior Lecturer is more like it
Believe what you wanna believe. At first, I was impressed with Obama, then the foundation on which he stood began to crumble.
Not my fault. “Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive”
OR embellish.
Fred
July 25th, 2011
1:49 pm
Granny: Do oil company subsidies count for nanny-statism? Sports stadiums? Subsidies to corporate farmers?
No because THOSE “create jobs” and the ones who get the subsidies are “job creators.”
Can’t you tell by the record low unemployment figures to go with the record high subsidies and record high profits?
Granny Godzilla
July 25th, 2011
1:53 pm
Fred
So we “nanny up” some corporations and still they don’t create jobs.
So it’s such a wonderful idea the GOP wants to try it again.
Isn’t that special.
Granny Godzilla
July 25th, 2011
1:56 pm
Fred
So we give nanies to some corporations and so many jobs were created that we had a recssion? And the GOP wants to rinse and repeat.
Well, isnt that special!
Granny Godzilla
July 25th, 2011
1:56 pm
Sorry about the double post, I thought I lost it while I was reading this from link above
“From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School’s Senior Lecturers has high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.”
Dave R.
July 25th, 2011
1:57 pm
And just a few notes on this weekends happenings on the debt ceiling front.
First, it’s a bit unseemly to see the President of the United States “summoning” leaders of one-third of the co-equal legislative branch to the White House like some banana republic dictator, especially as it now seems it was done largely for show.
Second, and you can file this under the “cause and effect” theory, isn’t this weakened negotiating position he now finds himself in a direct result of his ineffective policies of the past 2 years? If he and Democrat leaders hadn’t squandered the better part of a year ramming through what is now largely seen as a grossly ineffective health care reform bill, while instituting largely ineffective small-term programs to get this economy going again, the country wouldn’t have had any reason to vote in nearly 80 new GOP representatives, flipping the House completely and putting in 40-50 Tea Party-backed candidates that he cannot effectively negotiate with.
Third, my oft-repeated dearth of leadership by this President was never more apparent when the Speaker of the House felt it was necessary to break off talks with the executive branch and work exclusively with the legislative branch, leaving Hope & Incompetent ™ holding the bag.
And finally, Bill Daley comes out and says that the President with veto any measure sent to him that doesn’t extend the debt limit until 2013? Does anybody really think that this President will want the term “Obama’s default” ringing through the next campaign season? A bluff is only as good as the person selling it, and this administration can’t sell that one at all.
Baby Suggs
July 25th, 2011
1:59 pm
There is an immensely important vote on Wednesday in the health committee of the California State Senate.
It’s a vote on AB 52 to regulate health insurers, and give the insurance commissioner the ability to review, approve, deny or modify excessive health insurance rate hikes – much as regulators do now in California with auto insurance.
As you might imagine, the insurance industry is committed to doing whatever it takes to defeat this vote and the bill.
We need your help defeating the insurance industry.
Do you remember a few years ago, everyone lent a hand to try and save the life of Nataline Sarkisyan, who was being denied a lifesaving liver transplant by CIGNA? We need the same sort of citizen firepower today.
We can defeat them tomorrow, if we all pitch in today.
A victory for the people in Sacramento will belong to all Americans, not just residents of California who desperately need some small relief from egregious insurer price gouging.
AB 52would give the insurance commissioner, Dave Jones, the ability to regulate health insurance rate hikes.
Tomorrow, the vote in the Senate Health Committee is to pass the bill out of committee so that it can be voted on by the entire Senate. You’d think this would be a straightforward vote, well you’d be very wrong. The California Association of Health Plansis spearheading a campaign of lies and scare tactics.
Guess who doesn’t want this vote to happen? You got it, the insurance industry. These thugs are spending a fortune to defeat this lone vote. Kaiser alone has spent $700,000 to kill this and other health care bills in Sacramento.
Kamchak
July 25th, 2011
1:59 pm
Mary Elizabeth
You’re very welcome.
Dave R.
July 25th, 2011
2:02 pm
“It seems that you may be in the minority in your opinion,”
Visionaries usually are, Baby Suggs.
And btw, that’s one of the dumbest blog monikers ever devised.
Baby Suggs
July 25th, 2011
2:03 pm
@@ clicked on your link, seems you forgot to mention this part below. I wonder why…………???
Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School’s Senior Lecturers has high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.
Hmmmmmm verry intersting.
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Dave R.
July 25th, 2011
2:03 pm
“Do oil company subsidies count for nanny-statism? Sports stadiums? Subsidies to corporate farmers?”
Yes. Your point?
Granny Godzilla
July 25th, 2011
2:05 pm
Dave R
Not into Tony Morrison eh?
Granny Godzilla
July 25th, 2011
2:05 pm
Make that Toni….sorry
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 25th, 2011
2:05 pm
DaveR thinks he is a visionairy…… or is it merely delusions of grandeur?
Granny Godzilla
July 25th, 2011
2:06 pm
Point?
To have you answer the question.
Thanks for your ever gaciousness.
Granny Godzilla
July 25th, 2011
2:07 pm
Visions of Cody perhaps?
Message from Matti
July 25th, 2011
2:07 pm
Baby Suggs,
So what you’re telling us is that corporations are spending millions in California to preserve the right to operate corporate death panels to decide which paying customers will have a chance to live, and which will die, by keeping gubmint out of the sacred “free market” practices of the “WeSaySo” Coporation, and that they’re buying scare-tactic propaganda to mislead the public into believing that gubmint is the sole source of tyranny in their lives?
Baby Suggs
July 25th, 2011
2:07 pm
Dave R. : And btw, that’s one of the dumbest blog monikers ever devised
Obviously you’re not much of a reader of American Literature. Great American Literature. Pulitzer Prize Winning American Literature. Baby Suggs is a character in a book that I’ve recently re-read. I read it the first time when I was too young to understand it, then I re-read it again about a month or so ago, and it made sense. The book was loosely based on the life of Margaret Garner.
Normal
July 25th, 2011
2:11 pm
Baby Suggs,
The “Right” don’t need no education…
Baby Suggs
July 25th, 2011
2:12 pm
Matti at 2:07 – You betcha!
Granny Godzilla
July 25th, 2011
2:13 pm
All in all their just a few bricks short of the wall…..
@@
July 25th, 2011
2:17 pm
Suggs:
Would I have given you the link if I were trying to hide something?
Why was he prevented from being full-time?
has high-demand careers in politics or public service
Part-time in the private sector because his demands in the public/political sector were more demanding or important, if you will.
Normal
July 25th, 2011
2:17 pm
Granny Godzilla
July 25th, 2011
2:13 pm
Jefferson
July 25th, 2011
2:20 pm
The speaker of the house has problems with his folks, they are not very good at solving the problems of paying the nations’s bills, even though they made the bills.
Normal
July 25th, 2011
2:22 pm
@@,
Did you see my 0829 to you on page 12?
Left wing management
July 25th, 2011
2:26 pm
What we are about to witness is hard-right GOP intransigence — a.k.a. extortion — rewarded, yet again.
Did you see what just happened?
A hard-right sect effectively held a gun to the head of our government and forced its agenda to be acknowledged, recognized, and in certain important ways, legitimized.
That’s very, very important information to know if you’re like me and you’re interested in how to get the next radical agenda kick-started.
What we’ve learned is the following:
Washington is full of gutless technocrats who care about nothing other than keeping the machine humming along. They will do anything — anything — do keep it from stopping.
Which means that they can be held hostage and they will ultimately fold, cave, capitulate, being the gutless weasels they are.
That’s good to know ..
TaxPayer
July 25th, 2011
2:26 pm
So, when are the Republicans going to make their move. The suspense is really rough. Will they pout more and whine then blink or whine and pout then blink or blink then pout and whine. And why hasn’t Tom Price been objecting. That’s like his signature move. With that whiney little voice of his.
Jefferson
July 25th, 2011
2:27 pm
Like I just said over at the cub scout’s place, the debt limit WILL be raised.
Baby Suggs
July 25th, 2011
2:27 pm
@@: Would I have given you the link if I were trying to hide something?
Some do. They think people won’t click on the link to read the information for themselves — I always prefer to read things for myself rather than trust someone’s word for it. Also, they way you inferred that he had embellished his credentials (This is your direct quote: “Not my fault. “Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive OR embellish.”); was filled with innuendo as if you were saying he in fact was LIEING.
What you did was in essence the old “3 card monty” and I was supposed to follow the wrong cards and loose sight of the one with the red diamond.
Why was he prevented from being full-time?
There you’re doing it again. The link that you shared with us clearly states that “Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.” Yet you again infer that something was amiss by adding the word “prevented” into your sentence.
3 Card Monty at its finest.
Paulo977
July 25th, 2011
2:29 pm
poison pen
How did you conclude that no one reads Mary Elizabeth’s posts????
“Has it ever occured to you that there might be another reason why no one reads your posts”
Baby Suggs
July 25th, 2011
2:29 pm
The “Right” don’t need no education………
At first I laughed. Then i realized how truly prophetic that statement was, and I became scared. Imagine, a bunch of uneducated people running around screaming with signs that say “Socialist” and “Kenyan Go Home!” It would be awful!
Jefferson
July 25th, 2011
2:31 pm
Reckon’ Jay is watchin’ his cork ?
Dave R.
July 25th, 2011
2:34 pm
“A hard-right sect effectively held a gun to the head of our government and forced its agenda to be acknowledged, recognized, and in certain important ways, legitimized. ”
LWM, that’s called doing what the people who elected you want. Oh, and thy are “legitimized” by the fact that they actually hold office, which you do not.
If you don’t like it, find a way to get your people into office.
Message from Matti
July 25th, 2011
2:34 pm
I read Mary Elizabeth’s posts.
The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….
July 25th, 2011
2:34 pm
Judging from the picture, I’d say Jay is somewhere in Alabama, right?
Dave R.
July 25th, 2011
2:36 pm
“The “Right” don’t need no education………
At first I laughed. Then i realized how truly prophetic that statement was, and I became scared.”
Me? I just chalked it up to the usual “the left is smarter than anyone else” meme. And discounted the original statement just as quickly.
Paulo977
July 25th, 2011
2:36 pm
Baby Suggs
re:@@’s accusation that Obama had “embellished “his credentials
The ‘facts’ simply and clearly stated by you… Well said!
The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….
July 25th, 2011
2:38 pm
“As a candidate in 2008, Obama told the National Council of La Raza that comprehensive immigration reform would be a “top priority” during his first year in office.
But three years later — with no concrete measure to change the nation’s immigration system on the horizon — some say Obama is losing his luster among Latino voters.”
First, the far left. Then the independents. Now the Latinos. The blacks won’t desert him, but he’s definitely on shaky ground.
Left wing management
July 25th, 2011
2:38 pm
Dave R. “If you don’t like it, find a way to get your people into office.”
I agree with you. But what we’ve learned here is something very important about tactics.
We now know that anyone on the Democratic side who speaks of compromise — anyone who disagrees with the claim that the top-earners need to be paying an effective tax rate of 100% for example — needs to be mercilessly purged.
Then that ought to get us to a place where we can have REAL fireworks in Washington — to entertain the folks.
Women's Memorial
July 25th, 2011
2:39 pm
If you are a female and have served in the U.S. Armed Forces or you know of any females that have served, the Women’s Memorial is looking for you…..
http://www.womensmemorial.org/ISO/iso.html
@@
July 25th, 2011
2:40 pm
Suggs:
Unnecessarily suspicious, aren’tcha? My intent was not to mislead.
Why was he prevented from being full-time?
There you’re doing it again. The link that you shared with us clearly states that “Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.” Yet you again infer that something was amiss by adding the word “prevented” into your sentence.
I should have used the word “chose”….He chose part-time government work over a full-time private sector position. Why? Only he knows.
Maybe he doesn’t like working full-time.