6:49 am July 23, 2011, by Jay
If anybody needs to find me over the next week or so, here’s where I’ll be.
Oh, and you’re going to need a helicopter or a whitewater raft to get there.
Photo by R. Dobkin
July 29th, 20113:14 pm
Washington has demonstrated for decades now that they cannot control spending; both parties. Clearly, only a Constitutional mandate will fix that problem. No rational person disagrees. Only slaves to the Progressive agenda oppose a BBA. Obama opposes it because he knows nothing other than to tax, spend, tax, spend. Even a growing number of his supporters see Barry’s plans don’t work other than to drag our country further in debt. Barry, Reid, Schummer and others opposing the BBA need to be tared and feathered and ran out of town on a rail (you kids can google that particular punishment).
The economy has turned worst since the CONs were voted in!! Hows that Tea taste? Most will tell you, ‘like syht”!
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
July 29th, 20113:15 pm
Since no plan reaches the spending reduction level the the rating agencies would like to see maybe a BBA would stave off a reduction in our current AAA. Can’t understand why the Democrats are so against it.
Your party will release the hostage soon.
It will get better if the gop mandate on uncertainty would get out of the way of business..
A disgusting spectacle for all the world to see.
July 29th, 20113:16 pm
America’s best days are still ahead of her!
July 29th, 20113:17 pm
“Since no plan reaches the spending reduction level the the rating agencies would like to see”
-You lie, signed Joe Wilson
July 29th, 20113:21 pm
Jay is going to be so bummed he missed all this.
“Doggone, Paul, you still here? I think we have our first hegehog to pester.”
Yeah. Just finished a late lunch but I’ve room for popcorn!
soco….a BBA doesn’t have to necessarily cap anything……….as I said before, just another version of pay-go…so what’s the big deal.
July 29th, 20113:24 pm
About your 2:07 — jewcowboy posted this a couple of weeks ago:
I laughed until tears came rolling down my face, and I don’t even own a smart phone.
Republicans have created a totally unnecessary crisis and turned it into compelling political theater. Will the US default? Will entitlements be slashed? Will Obama seize the power of the purse from Congress in order to save the dollar and the US credit rating? None of these questions needed to arise.
While the world media fixates on the orchestrated debt ceiling crisis, the US government continues to bomb civilians in Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia and continues with preparations to do the same thing to Syria and Iran.
The violations of other countries’ sovereignties, the naked aggressions that constitute war crimes, the murder of noncombatants, and the horrible moral and economic expense inflicted by the maximization of the military/security complex’s profits are somehow not a crisis. These are just routine, normal, everyday necessary events. Nothing to notice or to become upset about.
The offshoring of US jobs, GDP, tax base, and consumer demand that has eroded away the US economy and the government’s tax base, thus elevating the deficit, is somehow not a crisis. These are just the imperatives of globalism and the routine maximization of shareholders’ profits and management’s performance bonuses.
The US has become such a ridiculous collection of fools that no real crisis can be recognized. Instead, the country is mesmerized by a fake crisis.
July 29th, 20113:25 pm
Economist Thomas Sowell has cited studies showing that decades ago black employment, especially among younger black males, was substantially higher when there was no minimum wage vs the introduction of the minimum wage and consequent raises in the minumum wage.
A national minimum wage was first introduced in the US in 1933, but didn’t become law until 1938. If he was looking at statistics when there was no minimum wage, I think that data from that long ago would be less than useful when comparing it to modern society. Not to mention, the whole “Separate but Equal” thing kinda made Blacks live in a society within a society. Blacks pretty much had to provide their own services as they could not frequent White owned businesses across much of the country.
July 29th, 20113:27 pm
md – you are correct. A BBA without a tie to GNP would be worthless. The reality is, the House original cut, cap, and balance bill is exactly what is needed. Apparently, it will have to wait until after Barry and Harry get their walking papers in 2012.
If Boehner’s bill passes in the House as it’s now expected to do and Reids bill fails to clear the Senate as eapected and all that’s left is the original cut, cap and balance along with the new Boehner bill, I wonder which the Senate approves and Obama signs?
July 29th, 20113:28 pm
a BBA doesn’t have to necessarily cap anything
If you have an entire party dead set against “revenue increases”, then it does effectively cap everything.
July 29th, 20113:30 pm
Great, Schroeder’s Cat!
Didn’t know Fred was fluent in French, josef. Not surprised though.
Gone for the afternoon. Back on tomorrow evening. Bonjour!
July 29th, 20113:33 pm
So, the Republicans are going to have a little sit down with their moms and dads and grandparents and explain to them how they have to just forget about getting social security and medicare and that it is for their own good because otherwise the wealthiest would not be able to get their next round of tax cuts and that would just be so terribly wrong. Republicans! They’re so funny.
July 29th, 20113:37 pm
“I wonder which the Senate approves and Obama signs?”
Neither. If they pass anything it will be a one sentence “clean” bill raising the debt ceiling.
July 29th, 20113:38 pm
Breaking from Newsmax.com
Boehner, Obama Must Compromise on Debt
By Lanny Davis
A famous 1950 Japanese movie, “Rashomon,” describes a murder from the perspectives of four main characters who were involved in it — including the medium speaking for the murdered man.
All four versions differ as to who is the real murderer. The director was asked by the actors: Who was the real murderer? The director’s response: We don’t know, because each person was telling the truth as he or she perceived it.
Over the years, the “Rashomon effect” has become a metaphor for allowing for differences of opinion and perspectives without having to challenge the good faith or sincerity of those with different positions. Let’s apply that metaphor to the stalemate on raising the debt ceiling.
Even those who strongly disagree with President Barack Obama and oppose his re-election should at least give him credit that he has gone way beyond halfway to support a compromise — of $4 trillion in debt reduction, $3 trillion, or 75 percent, would be spending cuts, versus 25 percent in revenue enhancements through closing tax loopholes.
I wish President Obama had embraced Simpson-Bowles — the “grand bargain” he has recently sought from Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio — a long time ago.
I wrote last January, just before the State of the Union, that President Obama could have used that speech to put Alan Simpson and Erskine-Bowles in the House Gallery, asked them to stand and challenged every member of Congress to stand, too, if they supported Simpson-Bowles.
He could have paused, I wrote, and let the TV cameras pan back and forth, back and forth, allowing Americans to observe who stood up — and who didn’t.
A missed opportunity — but President Obama still deserves much credit for the guts and leadership he has shown in the last several weeks, especially taking on his base by touching the “third rail” of Social Security and Medicare reform.
Now, to be fair, let’s look at the world through John Boehner’s eyes.
Boehner leads a Republican Party with a base of tea party activists and purist conservatives who oppose all tax increases, whether in the form of rate increases or closure of loopholes.
The core doctrine of conservatism going back to Barry Goldwater is that the “beast” — meaning government — needs to be starved of new revenues as the only way to impose discipline on politicians’ “just say yes” instinct to support new spending, new taxing, and new borrowing. Boehner in general shares these views.
It is apparent that Boehner and most GOP conservatives sincerely believe it is in the best interests of everyone — including the poor and the middle class — to reduce government and strengthen the private sector, where enduring jobs are created and long-term revenues are generated.
So there are two vastly competing views of the role of government and solving the debt crisis, who should pay, and how the pain should be spread. This is what the 2012 election should be about, so let the debate begin. It can be a civil debate and the country will be better-informed — and have a clear choice — come Election Day.
But first, there will — there must — be a compromise to avoid default on the nation’s debt. The Democratic Senate and House Republican debt-raising proposals are not that far apart. Both give up increasing revenues through closing tax loopholes. Too bad, since polls show a large majority of Americans support that position.
The proposals would make comparable spending cuts. Both establish a supra-congressional committee to effectuate a “grand bargain” on the national debt similar to Simpson-Bowles — it’s about time.
The basic difference is the GOP House proposal would require a new decision six months from now (during the 2012 presidential campaign season) and the Democratic version would extend the debt ceiling until after the election. Do you think either side is thinking about presidential politics in these two positions?
One thing is clear — to find a solution, both sides need to apply the lessons of “Rashomon”: Assume the sincerity and good faith of the other side, and reach out to find a compromise. Every poll shows 80 percent or more support for compromise.
The American people expect — and deserve — no less.
© Newsmax. All rights reserved.
“otherwise the wealthiest would not be able to get their next round of tax cuts”
It’s not “wealthiest.” It’s “job creators.”
You really should get put on the talking points update list -
Joseph @ 3:00,
For once in my life I catch you being wrong. And man am I gonna let you have it! Just kidding. Seriously though what talking head posted at 2:57 is not convoluted logic. It is an accepted economics principle in labor economics studies and is verified by empirical data that the people hurt the most by minimum wage laws are the pool of labor pool applicants at the very bottom- the least qualified, least educated, and poorest are hurt the most. And I was taught this in my labor economics class by a liberal economics professor.
July 29th, 20113:40 pm
You’re reading Newsmax? Isn’t that a con publication? Hell I don’t even read it.
July 29th, 20113:42 pm
All gop voted yes to debate the crybaby’s doa bill.
July 29th, 20113:43 pm
Before I go – AMVET – caught your comment about me this a.m. – Thank you much and have a great weekend – enjoy the music!
That is quite an interesting take, and it’s one that would be hard to dispel.
July 29th, 20113:44 pm
My Granny told me once to listen to both sides of an argument, find the middle and there lies the “best” truth.
Besides, the Military taught me to “Know Your Enemy”.
July 29th, 20113:51 pm
Head, sorry for the delay. I’m multi-tasking here and blogging does not make me money! (So you know which is a priority and which isn’t.)
Thanks much for the article, but American Samoa? (And I do appreciate the fact that you use facts unlike, most of the hard-core, polymorphous, hyper-partisans here.)
I don’t believe that one article, in and of itself is very compelling. Given it is in relation to one specific industry in an otherwise industry free, tiny island with very few people in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
And even it acknowledges, Private sector officials said the minimum wage was one of a number of factors making business difficult..
Here is one of numerous studies that countermands the argument and is MUCH more detailed and compelling. And takes data from numerous states in the USA, not some obscure outpost.
The bottom line is for every study I have seen that endorses your assertion there is at least another one that countermands it. I would say that is not at all concrete evidence of some absolutist position regarding the argument.
Alas, gotta run and can’t even stay for FNM!
By way of adios, here’s one to get it started. (And for some here, truly apropos!)
July 29th, 20113:53 pm
Of course. I knew that. They require thousands of people just to print all their money and then there are the thousands more to sort and stack those billions of hundred dollar bills. Where would we be without “job creators”. By the way, aren’t those government jobs.
July 29th, 20113:55 pm
Back at ya Mary Elizabeth! (And keep on keeping on with your empowering messages of hope and beauty!)
July 29th, 20113:56 pm
Three more pages to fill before Jay returns. Don’t you guys have anything to talk about.
July 29th, 20113:58 pm
I’ll never forget what my microeconomics teacher told a few other students and I after class when we were discussing minimum wage.
“A minimum wage does not raise wages; it outlaws jobs that pay less than that wage. You cannot make people taller by passing a law, but you can make the population taller, on average, by killing off short people. That is how the minimum wage works.”
July 29th, 20113:59 pm
You’re SO right!
**And I was taught this in my labor economics class by a liberal economics professor.**
Was that tidbit included in the course description?
July 29th, 20114:02 pm
Gee, why don’t we scrap that bad minimum wage so the bidding can start at $2.00 per hour, wowsa think of all the great jobs that will be created! Yeah, that’s the trick….
July 29th, 20114:03 pm
Well, let me see if I can help you out. The Cons are dead-set against even a penny’s increase in taxes, so that revenue increases are impossible. That leaves only spending reductions for arriving at a balanced budget. The huge reductions required would involve severe cutbacks in Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, educational assistance, etc (I deliberately omit mention of defense, for the cons just love them lots of defense). Some of us object to a return to a pre-1935 fiscal situation in which the elderly are thrown out on their asses to fend for themselves and the poor are reduced to selling pencils on the street corner.
Does that help you understand why some of us are less than thrilled with the prospect of a BBA? Maybe removing your cranium from your rectum would help, too.
July 29th, 20114:07 pm
I would have to look it up on Sowell’s site but he has written of this several times and sourced it since he of course is a black man concerned about black employment. If I have time I’ll look it up later. Doing some work and blogging as I write. What is ironic about it is that back then of course there was rampant discrimination against blacks and against young black men in particular yet employment for them was higher.
July 29th, 20114:08 pm
I never said it wasn’t logical, per se, I simply said it was convoluted… and be it liberal or not, it’s still convoluted…
Seriously, though, this is why i’m not much on the subject of economics, it is too convoluted a “discipline” and has way too much the air of a cabal of witch doctors…imho
July 29th, 20114:09 pm
“The Cons are dead-set against even a penny’s increase in taxes, so that revenue increases are impossible. ”
Raising taxes doesn’t increase revenues, economic conditions explain almost all of the tax revenues received. If this President and the Democratically controlled Congress the previous 4 years would have been serious about the economy instead of contiuing on the path of spending us into oblivion, then maybe we would have more revenues instead of 1.3% GDP growth.
July 29th, 20114:10 pm
“Some of us object to a return to a pre-1935 fiscal situation in which the elderly are thrown out on their asses to fend for themselves and the poor are reduced to selling pencils on the street corner.”
And to others, this is the Utopia they dream about. All will be right with the world when they don’t have to pay a dime of taxes in gratitude for the opportunities and the benefits they’ve realized living in this here “greatest country on earth.” More champagne, please! Not that cheap shizz the common folk drink, either. Plutocracy: It won’t happen by accident, you know. It takes a plan, and the hard fought advocacy of your congressman.
July 29th, 20114:12 pm
Yes. josef found your logic to be convoluted but I did point out to him that this is largely not a debateable point with economists. I took a higher level economics course in labor economics since economics was part of my double major and it was covered in depth with the graphs and case studies and all that as to how the minumum wage actually hurts the lowest skilled workers. The point your econ professor made about tall people and short people expresses it very well. But there will be people on here from the hard left that no matter how many economics professors including liberal ones consider this a basic principle they will still dispute what virtually every economist already knows.
July 29th, 20114:13 pm
The GOP to GRANDMA………..The Black Man In The White House Took Your Check!
July 29th, 20114:14 pm
Talking Head: Raising taxes doesn’t increase revenues
Oh My Freekin Gawd.
Bush Cut Taxes, and guess what? REVENUES WENT DOWN.
Later folks. Have a good weekend
July 29th, 20114:15 pm
For those still arguing the minimum wage debate, it is not a solitary factor…it is but one expense of many, but one of the expenses that can be controlled by a company….for those that have run a business, they understand the impact of raising the minimum wage…it increases that particular expense….no ifs ands or buts………then it depends on other expenses and profits……..but in general, if profit is weak (a la recession), that expense makes a difference that usually leads to layoffs……which is nothing more than the reduction of said expense………….
**what virtually every economist already knows.**
So, what exactly are you advocating? Phase out the minimum wage? Do you honestly think that is what our economy needs in 2011?
Is it 2012 yet
July 29th, 2011
Is it 2012 yet,
I’m game, please do start a constructive conversation vis a vis the “real problem”.
I’m all ears and ready for your real debate on this issue.
Thanks Amvet, we at least have a few common points between us, I am aslo a VN vet, and proud of it as you are. Now let’s go from there;
I strongly think that the problem is between GW and BO’s out of control spending. We can debate the reasons for the spending and the results of them all day, but I hope you share my opinion that we must learn from our past experiences but don’t dwell on them. We can call each other names and criticize the other all day, but where does that get us. Somehow the spending must at least slow down and progress should be made to reduce the size of our Government. There are too many areas of duplication that is very wasteful as the POTUS stated in his SOU.
I am also a recent retiree and a little miffed at the outpour of sarcasms from both sides about the SS ” and MC entitlement”. I also realize that changes must be made to ALL ENTITLEMENTS to get our debit paid back and continue the basic necessities that our government supplies us.
I hope I have at least got it started AMVET
July 29th, 20114:18 pm
Tax revenues increased when:
1.) Kennedy cut taxes from 90%-70% (top marginal tax rate, he also cut at the lowest level)
2.) Reagan cut taxes from 70%-28% (across the board)
3.) Rep Congress during Clinton Administration cut captital gains tax from 28%-20%
4.) After the second Bush Tax cut in 2003, we did experience revenue increases 2004-first half of 2008.
These are the facts, and they are undisputed.
July 29th, 20114:20 pm
“Reagan cut taxes from 70%-28% (across the board)”
Now tell us how many times, and by how much, he RAISED taxes
Raising taxes doesn’t increase revenues
Why of course! EVERYONE knows that you must lower collections in order to raise collections. Of course by everyone I mean Republicans. They so funny.
July 29th, 20114:21 pm
“Gee, why don’t we scrap that bad minimum wage so the bidding can start at $2.00 per hour, wowsa think of all the great jobs that will be created! Yeah, that’s the trick….”
Said in jest, but Dorothy isn’t in Kansas anymore……….like it or not, the labor pool has expanded beyond our borders……..not wanting to acknowledge that won’t change that fact……….
And I’d bet they would love to see Goliath fall…………….
**These are the facts, and they are undisputed**
Reagan cut taxes from 70%-28% (across the board)
That is total BS
I never said it wasn’t logical, per se, I simply said it was convoluted… and be it liberal or not, it’s still convoluted…- Josef
Dadgumit! Don’t go raining on my parade and splitting hairs over semantics! It was my shining moment to prove the headmaster wrong and now you have to go and ruin it. A pox on you!
A great deal of economics priniciples are not really disputable by liberal or conservative economics- probably 90%. But the 10% where human variables come into play is where we have enormous disagreement. Kinda like DNA, we share 99% of the same DNA as chimps but that 1% that is different is one helluva differential factor.
And btw I don’t even see the point talking head made as convoluted. When you read and understand it its perfectly logical and straightforward. I think you read over it too fast or something but the concept is perfectly logical and reasonable to me, him, and any one else who has had an economics professor explain it to them.
July 29th, 20114:23 pm
“Gee, why don’t we scrap that bad minimum wage so the bidding can start at $2.00 per hour, wowsa think of all the great jobs that will be created! Yeah, that’s the trick…”
Hey! Why don’t corporations give shareholders the right to set CEO pay, so they can start bidding at 1/10th of the current pay?
Please excuse my spell check, but my 4:15 is addressed to AmVet
July 29th, 20114:25 pm
Soulja Boy’s $55 million birthday gift … to himself a new Gulfstream
I am so so tired of these Wall Street fat cats.
I hear he his going to hangar it in Rhode Island to save on sales tax.
July 29th, 20114:27 pm
Kinda like when Biden said we’re just gonna have to spend our way out of this mess?
I swear Obama and Biden are the real life Lloyd Christmas and Harry Dunn.
“That’s as good as money, sir. Those are IOU’s.”
**Hey! Why don’t corporations give shareholders the right to set CEO pay, so they can start bidding at 1/10th of the current pay?**
No, no, no, you can’t do that to the job creators? What are you loco in la cabasa senior?
July 29th, 20114:28 pm
A great deal of economics priniciples are not really disputable by liberal or conservative economics- probably 90%.
Translation: 9 out of 10 phlogiston economists agree.
Now that’s logic not so convoluted…even I can understand that!
July 29th, 20114:29 pm
We are truly fugged.
Back to one of my eternal questions:
If cutting taxes increases revenue, will a .000000001 percent tax increase revenues more than they are now?
How low can you cut and still increase revenue?
How close to zero tax rate can you get and still increase revenue?
Time for some specifics, bloggers -
July 29th, 20114:30 pm
I swear most of these righties have completed the three stooges correspondence course for enlightened economics:
foist prinziple = lower taxes increase revenue nyuk nyuk nyuk It’s a victim of circumstance…
July 29th, 20114:31 pm
“Hey! Why don’t corporations give shareholders the right to set CEO pay, so they can start bidding at 1/10th of the current pay?”
Now THAT is a plan!
July 29th, 20114:32 pm
Is it music time yet? I found this CD this week and have been enjoying it as if it were new instead of 18 years old:
I wonder things like this: if your eye got poked out in this life, would it be waiting up in heaven with your wife? do you have to get your hair cut in heaven?
And does God really shuffle his feet?
July 29th, 20114:34 pm
Why are we even talking tax increases when the only proposal is to increase a small segment that does essentially nothing to fix the problem??
Talking about a talking point……………..but it does have the masses all in a tither………..
“if your eye got poked out in this life, would it be waiting up in heaven with your wife?”
Such a good straight line, so little time…..
July 29th, 20114:35 pm
And another good one from the same album:
“I’ve had my lungs checked out with Xrays”
“I’ve heard the rattle in my bronchi”
“Some day I’ll have a disappearing hairline/someday I’ll wear pajamas in the daytime”
“afternoons will be measured out with coffee spoons and T.S. Eliot”
July 29th, 20114:36 pm
Are you familiar with the Crash Test Dummies? You should be.
And damn, I wear pajamas in the daytime NOW!! EEEKKK!!
July 29th, 20114:38 pm
Pajamas in the daytime? Gonna be hanging out with 20-year-old blondes next?
(hint: it won’t be your eye your wife will hand back to you in heaven….)
“Why are we even talking tax increases when the only proposal is to increase a small segment that does essentially nothing to fix the problem??”
Why are the TPers in the House talking about a balanced budget amendment that does essentially nothing to fix the problem?
July 29th, 20114:39 pm
Are you familiar with the Crash Test Dummies?
Isnt that what the tea party is changing their name to?
Sorry, couldnt resist
July 29th, 20114:40 pm
July 29th, 20114:41 pm
“Why are the TPers in the House talking about a balanced budget amendment that does essentially nothing to fix the problem?”
I thought we covered that already….playing to their audience……..
All of it is silly in my opinion…….but the sides have to have a winner for the next election cycle,,,,,,
“Gonna be hanging out with 20-year-old blondes next?”
No, my best friend is doing that — left his wife – mark off another of my friends as total douchebags.
July 29th, 20114:42 pm
I’m getting a little too old to be just marking my friends off. Maybe I should get Apollo to just mark them…in the face.
“I thought we covered that already….playing to their audience”
Ok, now…go back to your question about raising taxes…then read your answer again
July 29th, 20114:43 pm
I’d vote for this guy to be President…….he has it right.
Masses all in atither
July 29th, 20114:44 pm
“The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.”
July 29th, 20114:45 pm
“An economist is an expert who will know tomorrow why the things he predicted yesterday didn’t happen today.”
–Laurence J. Peter
Well, how are the counseling, complaints and camaradish confederates doing this warm day? I hope all of you are well. Nobody shot, mugged or slugged yet? Very good. There’s still time..
But the economy. Must mention it. It aint good, is it?? (Sorry, I have no links to prove that!)
The president & Congress? Better at playng tennis than at compromise. I’m betting on Boehner. He’s THE man. Well, he’s gotten one over the nets more times than Reid, the needy reedy one.
Anything else? Nawww. We don’t even know if Bookman caught a fish. Or if he’s fishing even. He may be on the Appalachian Trail or flying to Argentina. You just NEVAH know these days.
July 29th, 20114:46 pm
Where is their no trouble or at least sanity-
July 29th, 20114:47 pm
Protest muic time…
Why does God allow things like tornadoes and train wrecks?
Well, at least he gave me a beautiful ocean to swim in……
….when I kneed before your bounty…..sigh….I can’t wait for the Other Bosch to get home! I’ve gotta find somewhere to lock up the pups.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 29th, 20114:48 pm
if your eye got poked out in this life, would it be waiting up in heaven with your wife?
Well, I worry about more important things. Like all the people that got married five or six times and all their wifes up and died on them. Will they all be waiting in heaven? And will a poor guy get there and be met with something like “I always knew you had your eye on somebody else while I was alive”? I mean, it could be alot worse than what RW puts up with from Midori when she says things like he prefers flat-chested Republican women. And the Bible don’t say a thing about it!
Beleive me, you might could have alot worse things to worry about than your lost eye.
July 29th, 20114:49 pm
make that kneel….sorry got a little carried away.
July 29th, 20114:53 pm
Yeah, they’re out there-
July 29th, 20114:54 pm
4900 posts, who needs Jay ?
July 29th, 20114:56 pm
Sounds like a plan. Lots of guys (and some women) get that middle-aged affliction.
The medical term is ’stupidus idiotis.”
July 29th, 20114:57 pm
And the Birds get Edwards……..maybe a big play defense to go with that big offense……..
July 29th, 20114:58 pm
Love that song Mick and for some strange reason the word “scout” came to mind when I clicked that!
July 29th, 20115:00 pm
I don’t know, don’t blondes have more fun?
July 29th, 20115:01 pm
Ain’t that the God awful truth. At 43 the last thing I’d want is to have to train some dumb ass 20 year old to put up with me – he’ll I have kids that old now.
Actually, this guy’s looking better all the time –
July 29th, 20115:02 pm
Yes Mick we do but wisdom trumps fun
The other side of the asile
July 29th, 20115:03 pm
Please tell me what is the POTUS’s plan?
The problem we have in our government is not just one party, it is the whole Congress, all parties. It time for all of them to show a pair and do the right thing, reduce spending and raise the limit using the same amount in cuts that are effective ASAP as the amount of the increase. The Republicans are at least trying to fix the problem that this administration has presented to us, but all they get in return is rejection from the left. Please show me where anyone on the left has come up with a plan. Don’t say what about Reid’s plan, cause it is a copy of Boehner’s plan.
As far as Boehner goes, the talk of “the orange man” is very cute, I am sure that you also think that talking about the POTUS in terms of “the black man” are just as cute. I know you guys and gals will never agree with this, but the SOTH could be caught with pictures of him and Mrs Bachman doing the dirty and he would still be a better leader that the previous SOTH, Ms. Pelosi
July 29th, 20115:05 pm
Make that hell I have kids that old – damn auto correct again and yes Paul I saw jewcowboys post!
July 29th, 20115:08 pm
You saw jewcowboy’s post?!!? When? Where? I’ve been wondering how he’s been.
July 29th, 20115:09 pm
Congress at work-
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