6:49 am July 23, 2011, by Jay
If anybody needs to find me over the next week or so, here’s where I’ll be.
Oh, and you’re going to need a helicopter or a whitewater raft to get there.
Photo by R. Dobkin
July 29th, 201110:41 am
In other words, the neo-cons like to call us Marxists, while in actuality, it is they.
“Actually, it’s called “cultural hegemony”
Yeah, I know that – but how many of them would understand if we started calling them “hegemoniacs”?
July 29th, 201110:44 am
Maybe we should just start posting that link, but they might shoot their computers if Marx popped up on their screen — on second thought. No, no, no.
They would probably just twist it around that it’s actually us again who are the Marxist since we brought it up.
July 29th, 201110:45 am
Fox roving correspondent named Jesse Watters went out to the Hamptons to go to a Polo event. Lots of really rich folks. Asked about concern for struggling Americans, Watters said “None.” I disagree with the comment it’s liberal hypocrisy. He’d just interviewed a bunch of attendees who said they loved Fox News. I doubt the Hamptons is a new demographic.
BTW – the event was sponsored by a corporate jet company. Surprised?
July 29th, 201110:47 am
I am waiting for a con to step up and say what about me?
I am middle class and will never be wealthy.
July 29th, 201110:48 am
So…… conservative Republicans embrace a philosophy penned by a Marxist philosopher.
I love irony.
We can’t let that point die before the evening crowd arrives.
Paul – sorry, I can’t view videos from work…but I don’t doubt a bit the “none” for concern. The really wealthy generally don’t have to be concerned, it’s not THEM that’s having problems. It’s only when it’s shoved in their faces – but then their concern is really more for themselves than for others.
July 29th, 201110:49 am
I can be deep you know. There’s more to me than tiger suits and Battlestar Galactica. (Actually, I just play dumb on the blog )
July 29th, 201110:50 am
“but how many of them would understand if we started calling them “hegemoniacs”?
How about “Marxist Socialist hegemoniacs?”
I’m kinda looking forward to Scout’s return!
July 29th, 201110:51 am
Paul – no kidding, but to REALLY get a response from that quarter – you need to get Muslim in there too!
“There’s more to me than tiger suits and Battlestar Galactica.”
That was you in the tiger suit?!!?
Okay, I can buy that.
But so help me. if you say when I watched Battlestar Galactica I as really watching…….
July 29th, 201110:52 am
“The really wealthy generally don’t have to be concerned, it’s not THEM that’s having problems.”
One of my former friends, I say former, because I just could not deal with him anymore — owned a very big business — it was given to him by his father. He was always going on and on about how his employees were trying to get hurt, etc. in order to sue him. It’s always been so impressionable to me that those I consider “wealthy” are so paranoid, not to mention, completely arrogant, that not only are those they consider beneath them trying to steal from them, take from them their livlihood, but are also totally convinced that their life is so ideal that everyone wants to be just like them.
July 29th, 201110:53 am
“I am middle class and will never be wealthy.”
You’re assuming a connection with reality.
They’re more like their Congressmen in that regard.
July 29th, 201110:54 am
No Paul, that was not me in the tiger suit, I just went a little quacky (like that word, I just made it up) over that story. I thought it was really funny — and NO!! I am all about the Battlestar!!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 29th, 201110:55 am
I know its cruel and unusual.. .But I personally dont believe Bosch napped the night away last night….. I think he was in Mexico….. http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7374803n
July 29th, 201110:56 am
And yes, I agree, if we really wanna get Scout’s goat, we’ve got to include Muslims in with the hegemoniacs.
Dang! I forgot to ask Paul, how was the gravy and biscuits?
Bosch – yes, I’ve seen that response too. The “eye of a needle” thing is really a LOT deeper than most people realize. It’s not JUST to do with material wealth.
I have an acquaintance in the dog show world who once complained to me that she didn’t like being described as rich just because she drove a Mercedes and had a huge motorhome. To her the Merc was just “basic transportation” because it was 10 years old- well, to those of us safely ensonced in the VW belt, NO Merc is just “basic transport” no matter HOW old it is!
Interesting viewpoint. I don’t know anybody who’s “wealthy” personally, so I don’t have that kinda experience to fall back on. It wouldn’t surprise me though.
In other news, has anybody actually seen the Boehner bill that’s supposed to be voted on? In the name of transparency, don’t you think the American public would be able to see what’s being voted on today, if the vote happens today?
July 29th, 201110:57 am
OMG, OMG, OMG! I’m so happy there was an advertisement before Keep’s video — I clicked on it, saw the headline and quickly exited!
KEEP!!! That’s mean!!
““but how many of them would understand if we started calling them “hegemoniacs”?”
I’d just shorten it to hegehogs
July 29th, 201111:01 am
What’s really incredible about this guy – he never worked for anything in his life, but yet has complete contempt for those who do — for him. For people that make him money. Everything he has he was given to him by his father (including his house and cars, etc.) — in the last couple years we were “friends”, he even became real obnoxious towards me and my family suggesting why we kept having kids we couldn’t afford, etc. It’s funny because I realized I never really knew this guy, he was a college friend, so it wasn’t too hard to just distance myself from him.
He never saw how alienating his attitude was towards me (and others).
July 29th, 201111:02 am
“don’t you think the American public would be able to see what’s being voted on today, if the vote happens today?”
No, no! They have to pass it so we can see what’s in it!
I know what you mean!!
Bosch….. you always hurt the ones you love I did say it was cruel and unusual. But at least you know where not to vacation.
Hegehogs, I like it!
July 29th, 201111:05 am
Brosephus and Doggone,
I think that is the consensus of many of our righty brethren here: they are so convinced that those they consider beneath them are stealing their livlihoods, and that if it weren’t for them, their lives would be so much more richer and fulfilling.
If I were to somehow wind up at such an event, I wouldn’t be there for long — I’d have to be moved to the nearest Psych Ward.
July 29th, 201111:06 am
I guess that’s why I don’t hang around people like that. I would have put my foot in his ass questioning my kids. I’d much rather hang out with people who are just down-to-earth real.
Maybe I should forward you the photos I took of 500 series Mercedes pulling horse trailers. We see those as a sign of luxury, whereas Germans see them as a means of transportation. Same vehicle, but a completely different view.
July 29th, 201111:08 am
Bosch @ 11:05
You’re probably on the trail of a major breakthrough there. Of course, there will be major denial and deflection, but there are some characteristics that would point to that kind of view.
“they are so convinced that those they consider beneath ”
And a BIG part of the problem with them is that they simply cannot see that most of them ARE part of “those they consider beneath them”
July 29th, 201111:09 am
They were tasty, thank you. Had some pork I’d ground up and some pork sausage seasoning from Penzey’s. I added double the amount and it was just about right.
I know a number of people in that category. They’re more like I described the other day: humble, aware of their talents but also very aware of the good breaks life has blessed them with, generous and willing to do their part.
Not like those derfs in the Hamptons segment.
Lemme tell ya’ about Karma (not “Dharma” as in “Dharma and Greg”) sometime –
otherwise known as “payback’s a b!!ch”
I forgot about that part. Seems like we won’t get to see what’s in it. It’s bad when the “leader” sticks his neck out and can’t even get the support of his own people.
“We see those as a sign of luxury, whereas Germans see them as a means of transportation”
Well, but even so – the Germans also created the VW
July 29th, 201111:10 am
Has Scout recovered from the news of the Christian terrorist in Norway yet.
“I would have put my foot in his ass questioning my kids.”
As I said, my “former” friend — him saying that about my kids was the final straw. Funny thing is I run into him now and then, and he’s all like “Oh, let’s get together” — the old fake person mantra — he doesn’t want to get together with us, they just don’t know anything else to say.
July 29th, 201111:11 am
“It’s bad when the “leader” sticks his neck out and can’t even get the support of his own people”
Well, I asked that the other day: ARE you a “leader” if no one will follow you?
Sounds like a good insight.
Later today we’ll here the chorus of “NONONONONONOs!!!!!”
July 29th, 201111:12 am
“he doesn’t want to get together with us, they just don’t know anything else to say”
It’s like something I saw once about the “How are you doing?” question. If the asker keeps walking away as they say it, they don’t really want to know – it’s just something to say.
July 29th, 201111:13 am
Next time he says that, you should respond with, “You can’t afford it.”
July 29th, 201111:14 am
Taxpayer – 11:10 – haven’t you heard?
he WASN’T a Christian. Scout said so. evidently, because he acted in an unChristianlike way, he should not be considered one.
or something like that.
I’m so glad he’s here to clear those kinds of things up.
Paul….I thought it was the Kia Karma….
Taxpayer….wait til we find out who tried to firebomb Planned Parenthood in Texas on Tuesday.
July 29th, 201111:15 am
There is a huge opportunity for the cons to get their party to represent the middle class and not just the wealthy.
The gop say they are listening to the cons so tell them to represent you, the middle class or you will stay home.
Obama got that message and stood up for the middle class.
It can work for you cons too.
“you should respond with, “You can’t afford it.”
Is that in the same class as the bumper sticker I saw on a Range Rover? “Don’t follow me….you won’t make it”
July 29th, 201111:17 am
Doggone – “ARE you a “leader” if no one will follow you?”
hahaha … reminds me of a tweet I saw earlier this morning “#ff to @boehner – since no one else will follow you”
July 29th, 201111:18 am
I’m thinking it has to be a US Muslim soldier from that Fort Hood place.
July 29th, 201111:19 am
Oh, you trust those so-called “experts?” Think how much money they make pushing this “Einstein” nonsense like the climate change leftists
But.but..but it’s only a THEORY: there is no real PROOF……
Yes, Relativity, like all theories, is simply a model, a model which one day may be replaced by a more comprehensive theory. In the meantime, it’s been verified over and over again to the nth decimal place. The world’s best Physicists believe that Relativity will stand the test of time, but not quantum physics. See Roger Penrose’s seminal work, “The Road To Reality” for an in-depth discussion.
Global warming?? Not even close to being verified. Of course, if you want to take the word of the “experts”, that is your choice. The fact that the greatest Physicist of the JB Blog (Bruno) thinks climatology is speculative at best might give some of you some food for thought. Not Taxpayer, of course, since his inferior Georgia Tech education didn’t provide him with enough critical thinking skills to think for himself.
July 29th, 201111:20 am
“since no one else will follow you”
Inherent disconnect: if Boehner cannot get his TP members to vote with him, it’s the TP members fault. If Obama can’t get the Dems to vote for what he wants, it’s Obama’s fault.
July 29th, 201111:21 am
Doggone – 11:20 – add that to the disconnect list we started above
(debt – don’t want to pass it on to our children … a filthy planet where the air and water are toxic – make them clean it up)
July 29th, 201111:22 am
USinUK – yep, same mindset
July 29th, 201111:23 am
I guess the cons cut and ran like they want to do with our debt.
Bunch of palins but I ask these questions to local cons and they shrug and walk away.
Thinking logically interrupts their hate of other Americans.
It is fun to watch though.
wait til we find out who tried to firebomb Planned Parenthood in Texas on Tuesday.
It was the ghost of Jerry Falwell…
July 29th, 201111:24 am
Whoa! Top of page 82 and now 92…Cool…
July 29th, 201111:25 am
Taxpayer….yes, I am sure that Scout will acknowledge that fringe elements are at work in all religions and to assume that it is otherwise and somehow the mainstream elements of any religion is absolutely absurd. Scout is very nuanced and clear in the distinctions.
Oh wait….. I must have taken some powerful pain killers or something. That was not a delusional premise was it?
July 29th, 201111:26 am
How about “pro-lifers” who support the death penalty?
Is that in the same class as the bumper sticker I saw on a Range Rover? “Don’t follow me….you won’t make it”
Yep!!! That’s funny as hell too..
Normal – firebombing a Planned Parenthood clinic and/or shooting doctors who provide abortions = good Christians
(for those keeping track at home)
July 29th, 201111:27 am
Doggone – Molly Ivins said it was a lot like fishing – if they’re small, throw ‘em back and kill ‘em when they get bigger.
July 29th, 201111:29 am
“That’s funny as hell too”
I thought so too! ‘Bout fell out of my car when I read it. Of course I have some fun on the other side of that. My waterfalls project has me tooling around in the mountains on some pretty rough Forest Service roads. It’s lots of fun when, as like last week, 4 or 5 Jeep and RR drivers pass me going in as I’m coming out…in my little Ford Focus station wagon!
July 29th, 201111:30 am
USinUK – Molly Ivins, really miss her!
In case you have not seen it….Stewart did a great clip on GOP: Special Victim Unit about the Christian poutrage and the “Liberals are [insert absurdity]” http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/wed-july-27-2011-rachel-weisz
July 29th, 201111:34 am
Good Friday morning to you. Do you think y’ll will see rain from Don this weekend?
July 29th, 201111:35 am
Great week to have been out and gone fishin….just sayin…
Keep Up: My favorite “She has 5 children. Liberals don’t have 5 children!”
July 29th, 201111:36 am
I missed the President speaking an hour ago on the debt ceiling. Anyone got a video?
July 29th, 201111:37 am
Nevermind, found one: http://www.shallownation.com/2011/07/29/president-obama-debt-ceiling-speech-video-july-29-2011/
I miss Molly Ivins too. A great columnist!
July 29th, 201111:38 am
Mick – well, I can’t speak for anyone else, but I’m going through chart and graph withdrawal.
July 29th, 201111:39 am
Adam….of course, liberals who are low income Dems are popping out welfare babies right and left, right? We would never ever ever see any absurditys like those broad brush attacks here.
July 29th, 201111:40 am
and here I thought all we did was spit them out so the govt. could take care of them
I’ll do that!
I’m enjoying the Stewart clip now.
But I did hear one question that I think raises a valid point. It’s not about whether or not N terrorist “really” is a (name your religion).
The question was, look at the publications with the headline, or in the story, where it’s stated “Christian Terrorist” and the frequency it occurs in such instances. Now search those same publications and look for “Muslim Terrorist” in the headline or story.
So far, it seems those asking the question have a point.
July 29th, 201111:42 am
Getalife — I’m reviewing Joe Walsh on Washington Journal right now, at this link: http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/CeilingDe
I missed a lot of it because I was getting dressed for work while he was on.
Only in the area along the Gulf coast because of the tropical storm. We may dip below a hundred tomorrow, then it’s up to 106 midweek.
I don’t go out much.
July 29th, 201111:43 am
Any word yet on when those Zell Miller Hope scholarships will go out. My daughter is going to be mighty disappointed in the Georgia GOP if they fail to deliver yet again.
Oh great. Starbuck (the pup, for those who didn’t know that already) found another squeaky toy. She finally murdered the one she had last week. I guess it was reincarnated. And Apollo (the other pup for those who didn’t know that already) is very jealous of Starbuck’s new find. So, she’s busy squeaking away and Apollo is barking furiously at her. My day just go so much better!!
July 29th, 201111:44 am
Did you ever get xm radio? Beware of their shenanigans, when I cancelled mine they “tried to hit me with a $75 cancellation fee – ain’t gonna happen..
Well, we always have normal supplying us with great morning pictorials….
July 29th, 201111:46 am
Is it “wealth envy” or “Christian bashing” today?
I had enough of Joe Walsh and his friends.
Where are our cons?
Did they surrender?
July 29th, 201111:49 am
Here is a little something to help with those withdrawal pains, USinUK.
Are you middle class too?
Why do you support a party that represents 2% of the wealthy Americans?
July 29th, 201111:51 am
Paul, while I understand the seat of the pants assessment, I doubt it is scientific enough to provide a basis for factual distinction. Just a quick Bing search indicated a 7 million result difference between 2 types of “religious terrorist”. I suspect that you are seeing a greater emphasis on the religious aspect now in the media because of the great attention given to recent religious extremists by the media when they are islamic, but admittedly that is only my theory.
By the way, did you see in other reports where Fox (and likely others) first claimed that the N terrorist, before he was caught, was a islamic terrorist.
Adam 11:37 a.m.
I don’t have a video but I can tell you that it was a very short speech. He simply reiterated that he believes Congress will get it done by Tuesday. He told why it was important, i.e. so S.S., Veteran benefits, small business ties to the govt. all are paid for sure. He emphasized that the Boehner Plan has no possibility of getting through the Senate. He encouraged Reid and McConnell to come together to get it solved by Tues. He said everyone’s interest rates on homes, cars, credit cards will go up if AAA standing is lowered. So even though the aim is lower taxes, if not solved by Tues., all Americans will see “tax increases.” He ended by asking citizens to continue calling Representatives.
I am continuing to call – emphasizing that the bill needs to be done in one stage, not in two stages (as the Boehner Plan endorses). I am suggesting that perhaps McConnell and Reid can work together to get it passed in one stage by Tuesday. BTW, Reid is going ahead now with getting his bill through the Senate because time is important.
Please call: (House of Rep. right now; Senate later)
July 29th, 201111:54 am
This was a bad day for our Navy…
Jul 29, 1967:
Fire ravages U.S. carrier off Vietna
Fire sweeps the U.S. aircraft carrier Forrestal off the coast of North Vietnam in the Gulf of Tonkin. It was the worst U.S. naval disaster in a combat zone since World War II. The accident took the lives of 134 crewmen and injured 62 more. Of the carrier’s 80 planes, 21 were destroyed and 42 were damaged.
and… The Japanese sink the USS Indianapolis… Over 800 men survived the sinking, but only a little over 300 survived the ordeal. The rest drowned or were taken by sharks. The “Indie” had just delivered the “A” bomb to Tenian Island that was dropped on hiroshima.
July 29th, 201111:55 am
I think the cons should call their reps. too and say they are middle class and want the gop to represent them too and not just the wealthy.
The gop say they are listening to you cons.
Now is your chance to be heard.
May your AC never break!
July 29th, 201111:56 am
Another Bosch Friday philosophical musing:
I find that many of our righty friends who judge those they consider beneath them and “stealing their livelihood” are usually also fundamentalist Christians. I feel the two are correlated. Their spiritual paths are set on the absolute, literal ways of their beliefs and most of the time feel that their spiritual beliefs are the one true way. That belief system spills over into other aspects of their life including their political views. They are intolerant of others who they perceive as different or who think differently. Again, this is just my opinion, they perceive them to be wrong based on their literal capabilities.
Okay, carry on, I have to break up a squeaky toy fight.
July 29th, 201111:58 am
Thanks, Normal. I need all the blessings I can get –
My brother-in-law’s AC went out on his big rig the other day. He was hundreds of miles from home on the other side of the state.
July 29th, 201111:59 am
woohoo! it’s beer o’clock! (I love the last Fri of the month)
July 29th, 201112:00 pm
Nice USinUK! Have a nice weekend!! Maybe Jay’ll put up a chart Monday….
July 29th, 201112:02 pm
I went to visit my brother in Dallas and it was clear and over a hundred everyday.A drier humidity but still deadly hot.
When I drove back to La., it was 77 and pouring down rain the whole time.
Methinks somebody is upset with Texas.
Ya’ll need to pray harder.
July 29th, 201112:07 pm
why do you support a party who had controll of congress for the last 4 years (w/ the exception of the House for the past 6 months) and the presidency for the past 2 1/2 years who have passed universal (except for Congress) health care, increases in the minimum wage, and extension upon extension of unemployment benefits with the results of costs of health care and health insurance skyrocketing, entry-level jobs are harder and harder to find, and unemployment is reaching depression-era levels.
Although global markets largely determine oil prices, Obama’s assault on drilling and his weak-dollar policy have not helped things. Had the President pursued a pro-drilling policy and defended the dollar, gas prices would have been substantially lower. Even at this late date, if the administration were to signal support for expanded drilling, world energy markets would respond by lowering the price of oil, thus lowering the price the middle class pays at the pump.
Additionally education expenses are rising twice the rate of inflation, and the housing market continues to dive.
Looks like the dems are trying to destroy the middle class to me.
“Methinks somebody is upset with Texas.
Ya’ll need to pray harder.”
I kinda think somebody’s upset with those who are doin’ the prayin’.
I found this interesting in light of our discussion the other day:
“Tennessee televangelist Brannon Howse and Houston independent Bible Pastor Robby Dean have been among prominent fundamentalist critics.
In a letter to his West Houston Bible Church, Dean wrote that some Response leaders are from a “radical, fringe, quasi-cultic” group that preaches the Book of Joel to call for a “Christian kingdom.”
There’s your Old Testament citation for modern Christian ideology.
July 29th, 201112:08 pm
going to lunch..will return to debate
July 29th, 201112:09 pm
Have you considered converting to BobbleHeaddom. I think you’d be a natural.
July 29th, 201112:10 pm
When you are done spewing rw lies we can talk.
I think our President learned from the last mid term to stand up and fight for the middle class.
Your party will never do that.
Are you middle class or just another talking head??
I meant to respond to what you wrote earlier about people asking “How are you doing?” First of all, I never ask people that anymore, and have found, as you have that most people just say that because it is programmed into them to say it. The reason I never ask people that anymore, is that I found that most of the time, the answer was “I’m soooo busy” or “I’m sooo tired.” I found that to be just kind of boring.
I think that people just automatically say that because we have programmed ourselves into thinking that if you don’t DO something or aren’t constantly busy, then you are somehow not worthy. We associate human worth or value upon what we do, or how busy we become, and I find that ridiculous.
I like to tell people I take naps. I do. I love naps! I do not apologize for naps. No one should.
July 29th, 201112:11 pm
“So, she’s busy squeaking away and Apollo is barking furiously at her. My day just go so much better!! ”
sounds like a GREAT day! I miss the wondermutt – wish I could bring her to work
July 29th, 201112:12 pm
Bereaved husband claims sex discrimination over NHS pension
The judge ruled against him.
Lawyers for the Secretary of State for Health accept that it is discrimination, but argue it is defensible.
The judge agreed.
Who knew? Some forms of discrimination ARE acceptable.
Manches partner Alex Fox, who acted for Cockburn, said: “We believe that we have the better of the legal arguments based on both fairness and common sense. The main stumbling block for the Court was, ironically, the sheer size of the discrimination affecting public sector workers throughout the UK.”
The government had argued that the cost to the public purse could have exceeded £4bn.
“If the government is allowed to continue this discriminatory practice, defending it on grounds of cost, it will totally undermine the laudable aim of achieving equality in the workplace,” said Fox.
He added that his client was considering whether to appeal the ruling.
Read more: http://www.professionalpensions.com/professional-pensions/news/2097973/bma-loses-gbp4bn-discrimination-nhs-widowers-pensions#ixzz1TVkQW9hG
Professional Pensions – News and analysis from the pensions market. Subscribe now.
Has our credit been downgraded yet?
July 29th, 201112:14 pm
Bosch – I like this one! “The only people who want to hear the truth when they ask how you are…are your Mother and your doctor”!
Yesterday, some religious leaders were arrested protesting the gop attack on the middle class and poor.
These are the leaders that should be heard not the radical religious extremists.
The radicals have to be marginalized.
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