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Mighty Righty
July 23rd, 2011
3:06 pm
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2011
2:50 pm
1811,
You gotta wonder what kinda of a fool would lump this nut into the Christian fold.
We actually know what kind of fool would lump that nut into the Christian fold, don’t we. The kind that would call Christians scum. The kind that Jesus would forgive for those very statements. The kind that could use some professional help and spiritual help. God bless him brother. We pray he will someday acquire wisdom.
Kentucky Jacket
July 23rd, 2011
3:07 pm
Thulda,
I just wonder if it is a muted attempt by the media to use this guy as the attempted assasian was in the southwest. Immediately it was a hardcore right winger, which was found out later to be false. In this case, the only evidence I’ve seen in the media sources that point to him as being a Christian is that he blogged on some websites. Just makes me wonder if Jay Bookman is a liberal, does that mean that if I blog on his site some might call me a liberal.
Now if the guy did claim to be a Christian, it changes the questions, but I have not heard anywhere than he claims this was done in the name of Jesus. Association with anything doesn’t mean that it is necessarily what influences the actions that you take.
A Face in the Crowd
July 23rd, 2011
3:07 pm
Where are the Christians who should be speaking out? This tragedy will be the text in churches of all denominations tomorrow morning.
Kentucky Jacket
July 23rd, 2011
3:12 pm
I’ll gladly do the Charleston for you if you will please give me a link that says that the bomber was Christian. Until then, its just baseless accusations in a blog vacuum.
I’m not trying to be rude, but I really haven’t seen any link to Christianity other than where he blogged historically (not sure how many)
A Face in the Crowd
July 23rd, 2011
3:18 pm
Kentucky Jacket
Reports coming out of Norway do say that he has identified himself as a Christian. To the best of my knowledge, there have been no sectarian allegiances or memberships reported.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
July 23rd, 2011
3:18 pm
There will be a short term 6 or 7 month bill with dollar for dollar cuts in spending for each dollar rise in the debt ceiling. Obama will have to blink and sign it or suffer irreversible political damage.
BADA BING
July 23rd, 2011
3:27 pm
Jay, could you come back from vacation and give us a graph, showing just how dead Amy Winehouse is? THX
Kentucky Jacket
July 23rd, 2011
3:28 pm
Face,
I asking this as a request, not sounding like I am trying to challenge you, but can you please give me a link that shows that. The only reason that I ask is that I, too, have seen news stories claiming he is a right wing Christian extremist, which later seem to say that the “Crhistian” part comes from his participation on Christian blogs. I just want to know if that if the media is inferring his “Christianity” based on that, or if he himself has stated he is a Christian and that influenced his actions.
I really would appreciate your help, because I can’t find it and really don’t have time to devote to any research
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2011
3:37 pm
This all reminds me of when the same nutcake on here and other left wing nutcakes jumped all over the Arizona shooting of the Congresswoman as being done by a right wing fanatic. Then the news came out that he was apolitical- he was just a nut. If anything a couple of his classmates were on tv saying that he had espoused Maoism but of course that wasn’t reported a whole lot.
Mighty Righty,
I think you’re right. Our leftwing crazy needs some serious psychiatric or spiritual help or some professional counseling at the very least. Clearly he has a lot of pent up anger and hate in his heart. As I said it takes a really sick individual to try and hijack a tragedy for political purposes.
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2011
3:38 pm
Bada Bing,
Damn that was funny.
JamVet
July 23rd, 2011
3:40 pm
The overarching point is not that this murderer was a Christian.
What is revealing is that even though the worst of these supposed Christian slimeballs here demand that every single Muslim on the planet apologize for the murderous behavior of a tiny handful from their tribe, they will not do the same.
Our religious nuts here are no better, and arguably even worse than the ones that constantly excoirate en masse.
Go do that moronic, transparent two step at Johnnys.
And I’ll say a prayer that you find some redemption!
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2011
3:55 pm
JamVet,
Your complete and total lack of scale and proportion is nothing short of astounding.
Suppose for the sake of argument that this nut is indeed a Christian rampaging in the name of Christianity which has yet to be proved. More likely he’s just a racist and a loser who is angry at the world. Or just disturbed. But I digress.
Lets suppose he’s killing Muslims in the name of Christianity. That would make him the first high profile mass murderer or Christian terrorist since Eric Robert Rudolph a decade or so ago. In the meantime do you have any idea how many Christian churches have been bombed in Iraq, Christian coptic churches that have been bombed and attacked in Egypt, and how many Christians and Jews have died at the hands of Muslim terrorists in the last 20 years in Israel alone? I mean seriously. Are you just that damn stupid? 3,000 mostly Christian Americans died on 9/11 alone at the hands of Muslim terrorists. Thousands have died in the 2 African Embassy bomings, the Bali bombings and Indonesian bombings, Muslim attacks on train stations in Britain, Spain, Russia, Muslim attacks throughout the middle east on a regular basis, etc.
In terms of frequency of attacks in which the Muslims have made thousands of terrorist attacks both on Christians, Jews, and other Muslims and in terms of pure body count the sheer number of people worldwide killed in thousands of attacks by Muslim terrorists is in the tens of thousands.
And here we have a complete idiot like yourself trying to compare the act of one single alleged Christian killer to tens of thousands of victims of Muslim terrorism in thousands of terrorist acts over the last couple of decades. It is nothing short of astounding just how asininely stupid you really are.
A Face in the Crowd
July 23rd, 2011
4:00 pm
Kentucky Jacket
The information is coming in over the network news reports on a regular basis, and draw their information from his having posted on his Facebook page that he is Conservative-Christian.
Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Store has acknowledged that investigators have linked him to various writings of his on the subject.
BBC and CNN have reported this and MSNBC has gone more “in depth.”
JamVet
July 23rd, 2011
4:02 pm
Tick, tick, tick…
Kentucky Jacket
July 23rd, 2011
4:05 pm
Jamvet,
I have to respectfully disagree.
The very basis of your arguement is that he is a Christian. Without that, the entire point is moot.
I also refer you to my very first post of today which said I condemn his actions. I’m not sure what more you would like from me.
But:
1) If the bomber does come out and say that he is a Christian and did these acts in Jesus’ name, I’m sure you will see condemnations coming from Christian demoninations and the Vatican.
2) I’m not sure that I’ve heard that “every single Muslim on the planet” should apologize, but there have been questions as to why noone has spoken out against it. If the Bible appeared to promote violence (as some say the Koran does, I have not read much of it), and if an act of violence like this was carried out in Jesus name against innocents, and if Christians were cheering in the streets over it, and no Christian leader came out and said “This is wrong and we shouldn’t be celebrating”, then that would make a nonChristian question other times when people said that Christianity was a religion of peace.
But I have to ask, why do you have so much venom against religion? Is it hypocracy, or were you wronged. I’d like to understand whay drove you to such a staunch stance against all religion.
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2011
4:10 pm
Waaaaaaaa. Looks like an idiot wants to go crying to Jay. Waaaaaaaaa.
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2011
4:12 pm
Hey crybaby, Be sure to tell them I have 2 other computers with multiple email addresses and IP addresses. Good luck crybaby.
BADA BING
July 23rd, 2011
4:13 pm
Winehouse gets to join the ‘Died at 27′ club w/ Joplin, Morrison, Hendrix.
Kentucky Jacket
July 23rd, 2011
4:13 pm
Thanks face.
I will try to do some researh later. I appreciate the sources to look at . I’m not sure if the blog is available later, but I will try to get back on after I can view the most recent reports. II’ll comment then, but again, his actions are despicable, Christian or not.
JamVet
July 23rd, 2011
4:20 pm
Yep, I play the role of Pied Piper while the blog rat/c0ckroach dances.
Same as it ever was…
@@
July 23rd, 2011
4:22 pm
Only thing I knew about Amy Winehouse was what I read here. People need to asks themselves if they enabled her premature death.
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2011
4:32 pm
Lotsa kool aid being drinken by the left wing loons today. Not gallons of it. They drink their koolaid by the barrel.
Brosephus
July 23rd, 2011
4:33 pm
KJ
Here’s what’s on the Washington Post, which I’m assuming is probably about the same as what you’ll find at any AP or Reuters source:
[...]
The 32-year old Norwegian man taken into custody, whom Norwegian media identified as Anders Behring Breivik, has admitted to firing the weapons, police chief Sveinung Sponheim told reporters Saturday. Police officials have described the man as a right-wing Christian fundamentalist, a member of a small, largely Internet-based community that has been quiet in recent years.
It remained unclear whether he had worked alone. Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg said Saturday afternoon that police were investigating many angles in the attacks, including the possibility of international support for the suspect.
[...]
“What we know is that he is right-wing and he is Christian fundamentalist,” deputy police chief Roger Andresen said Saturday morning at a televised news conference. “We have not been able to link him up to an anti-Islamic group.” He said that the suspect had not been arrested before and that police were unsure if he had acted alone.
“We find him responsible for both of the attacks,” Andresen said. “At the moment we have no other people to arrest.”
[...]
He said that police were still trying to piece together the suspect’s motives.
“The politically motivated violence that Norway has seen in the modern age has come from the extreme rightist side,” Stoere said. “This is a phenomenon that we have addressed very seriously.”
A Twitter account with Breivik’s name and photo has a single post, from July 17: “One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100,000 who have only interests,” slightly misquoting the British philosopher John Stuart Mill. A Facebook account linked to Breivik cites his favorite books as Mill’s “On Liberty,” Franz Kafka’s “The Trial” and George Orwell’s “1984,” among others. Another interest is hunting. It was not possible to confirm if the Twitter and Facebook accounts and posts belonged to the suspect in the shooting.
[...]
Norway saw an increased level of far-right extremism in 2010, a trend that had been expected to continue this year, according to a Norwegian Police Security Service Annual Threat Assessment. The report also said that “there are indications of contact” between far-right Norwegian extremists and organized criminal groups, which could increase their potential for violence.
There’s nothing other than his self-identifying to link him to Christianity, if those accounts do indeed belong to him. There’s nothing concrete at this point to say that he acted in the name of Christianity. As they said, Norway is seeing an increase in violence from the extreme far-right.
I think all religions have their nutcases, as do all political ideologies. To base your views or opinions of a religion on the actions of one person or a small subset of people is wrong, regardless to whether it’s Christianity, Judaism, or Islam.
@@
July 23rd, 2011
4:34 pm
Kentucky jacket:
I also refer you to my very first post of today which said I condemn his actions. I’m not sure what more you would like from me.
To condemn the individual isn’t enough. AmVet wants you to condemn Christianity. It’s always been that way with him.
Brosephus
July 23rd, 2011
4:36 pm
You can also read this here at the AJC…
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/gunmans-background-puzzles-police-1037666.html
National police chief Sveinung Sponheim told public broadcaster NRK that the gunman’s Internet postings “suggest that he has some political traits directed toward the right, and anti-Muslim views, but whether that was a motivation for the actual act remains to be seen.”
He regularly posted on a Norwegian right-wing site called Document.no in 2009 and 2010, the editor of the site Hans Rustad said.
“He writes mostly about what Americans call the cultural war; focused on immigration, demography, identity, and politics in the broader sense,” Rustad wrote on the site on Saturday.
“His main enemy is not Muslims, but multiculturalists and what he calls cultural marxists.”
A Facebook page under Breivik’s name was taken down late Friday. A Twitter account under his name had only one Tweet, on July 17, loosely citing English philosopher John Stuart Mill: “One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100,000 who have only interests.”
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2011
4:54 pm
@@,
Some people just aren’t rational. They equate one single terrorist action by one single, self professed Christian to the tens of thousands of people killed in thousands of terrorist actions committed by Muslim terrorists. Through this one single attack they equate moral equivalence. You can’t make this up. Some people really are that dumb.
JamVet
July 23rd, 2011
4:54 pm
Speaking of blog rats…
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2011
5:02 pm
Speaking of liars who said they voted when they were 17. Nothing funnier than a proven prevaricator
BADA BING
July 23rd, 2011
5:03 pm
Any surprise about Winehouse? A more unbelievable headline would have been ‘Amy Winehouse found sober’.
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2011
5:04 pm
Tick…tick….tick….
Who am I kidding? I don’t snitch. I could but I won’t. That’s for the real rats among us.
@@
July 23rd, 2011
5:04 pm
Why did AmVet change his name to JamVet?
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2011
5:05 pm
Come to think of it rats that snitch do have thin skins.
JamVet
July 23rd, 2011
5:06 pm
Thelma, you WILL read all of my posts. You always have. You cannot help yourself.
Today is just the latest of many examples where you are powerless to do anything but respond to my posts.
But it is a one way street.
I own you.
@@
July 23rd, 2011
5:09 pm
AmVet or JamVet, if you will…
Thelma, you WILL read all of my posts. You always have. You cannot help yourself.
Obviously I don’t or I’da known why you changed your name.
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2011
5:10 pm
JamVet,
And you just can’t seem to quit reading my posts can you? Looks like its a 2 way street there sport. Actually I own you in terms of debating an actual topic. I notice that you have no logical responses to my querys as to how you equate one single terrorist act by a so called Christian to thousands of lives lost in thousands of different Muslim terrorist attacks. You just can’t debate the points at hand can you? You never could…..
pogo
July 23rd, 2011
5:14 pm
Nazi’s are not Christians.
Expect to see much more of this going on in Europe (and here in America) because of the failure of experimentation into “multi-culturalism” by world leaders and all that it involves. When immigrants to a country receive greater favour from the government than the citizens of that country because of progressive ideology, trouble is going bound to follow. Who is right and who is wrong? It really doesn’t matter. The lunatic-fringe is always out there waiting for a reason to strike. Life doesn’t matter to them.
@@
July 23rd, 2011
5:16 pm
And JamVet:
I’ve said it before but it’s worth repeating. All your posts are the same so there’s no need to read them all. You’re very predictable…to the point of being obsessive/compulsive.
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2011
5:16 pm
@@,
Actually I think the “voting when he was 17″ poster said last night that I was dumb for not liking a Madonna video. His post was silly and trite but he wasn’t worthy of retort. He rarely is. Point is that he definitely was reading all my blog posts and had to chime in. The man is like some of the other far left loons like Debbiedo- he’s obsessesed with me.
For your info amvet I read all blog posts. Now I understand that you don’t ostensibly because you just can’t read or think very fast. I’m cool with dat and I realize from your lack of coherent, logical arguments that you have limited mental capabilities. That fact that you have no logical, rational arguments in any of your posts proves as much. All you got is empty rhetoric and hyperbole. And it don’t count for much.
Uncle Jed
July 23rd, 2011
5:18 pm
Midori
July 23rd, 2011
12:50 pm
Peggy Noonan is/was a “voice of reason”?????
LinkReport this comment.Midori
July 23rd, 2011
12:51 pm
OMG!!!!
Amy Winehouse is dead!!
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From Peggy Noonan to Amy Winehouse in less than a minute. It could only happen here.
Brosephus
July 23rd, 2011
5:22 pm
Expect to see much more of this going on in Europe
(and here in America)because of the failure of experimentation into “multi-culturalism” by world leaders and all that it involves.Big difference between European countries and the US when it comes to multi-culturalism. Almost every European country is homogenous with outsiders moving in. The US began and has always existed because of multi-culturalism. It’s not like every immigrant that has landed on the shores of the US has come from the same culture or even the same continent.
@@
July 23rd, 2011
5:22 pm
Looks like the guy was an outcast like Loughner.
Fringe group barred suspected Norway killer from forum
He said an SIOE member in the Faroe Islands had checked Breivik’s Facebook “friends” on the social media site when he tried to join and discovered one who used a picture of Danish neo-Nazi leader Jonni Hansen as his profile picture.
“He advised us not to allow this guy to join or be able to post on the Facebook wall (message page),” said SIOE co-founder Stephen Gash.
SOIE, which says it has 30,000 followers on Facebook, was founded by Gravers and Gash in 2007 with the aim of “preventing Islam becoming a dominant political force in Europe.”
Gash said the organization is apolitical and opposes both Islam and Nazism.
josef
July 23rd, 2011
5:24 pm
Whooo-L-wd! And the Imam Toquemanda’s blog rolls on in its stream of semi-conscious mode!
Norway…the man was an unhinged lunatic and who knows what his voices were telling him and where they were coming from. He was no more a “Christian” than an al Qaida terrorist is a “Muslim.” Wacked out zealots of any label are dangerous.
Brosephus
July 23rd, 2011
5:24 pm
From Peggy Noonan to Amy Winehouse in less than a minute. It could only happen here.
That, sir, is because of the patented Bookman Thread Drift™ which can only be found in this one location. I think it’s because this blog lies on a magnetic geyser along a geological fault above the city of Atlantis at the edge of the Bermuda Triangle…. or something like that.
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2011
5:24 pm
@@,
Come to think of it I haven’t spoken to or addressed amvet in a month or 2.
As you said his posts are predictable, the same ole juvenile rhetoric, no facts, no logic, no coherent argument, so thats why its been a long time since I’ve addressed him. What can I say? His silliness just wasn’t worthy of being addressed.
Today I thought I would help him out on the scope and scale thing of understanding the difference between one single attack by a Christian nut vs thousands of Muslim nut terrorist attacks. As usual this scope of rational thinking was beyond his capabilities. I shoulda known……
@@
July 23rd, 2011
5:25 pm
Thulsa:
Actually I think the “voting when he was 17″ poster said last night that I was dumb for not liking a Madonna video.
DANG! Another one I missed. How many more?
schnirt
Fred
July 23rd, 2011
5:26 pm
BADA BING
July 23rd, 2011
3:27 pm
Jay, could you come back from vacation and give us a graph, showing just how dead Amy Winehouse is? THX
++++++++++++++++++
Oh no you did NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Uncle Jed
July 23rd, 2011
5:28 pm
I just call out Christian scum when I see them. You don’t – too close to home. Your choice.
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My choice: Just call them out or better yet, ignore them–don’t really care where they go to church as it should be obvious to a toadstool that any group, religious or not, will have a few nutjobs. Just look at this place
Uncle Jed
July 23rd, 2011
5:30 pm
I think it’s because this blog lies on a magnetic geyser along a geological fault above the city of Atlantis at the edge of the Bermuda Triangle…. or something like that.
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Could also be that the short bus isn’t running today
@@
July 23rd, 2011
5:31 pm
josef:
Norway…the man was an unhinged lunatic and who knows what his voices were telling him and where they were coming from.
Just like Levi Aron heard voices? Is Breivik a Jewish name?
Did you know it was an Irish-American who tracked down Aron?
Fred
July 23rd, 2011
5:31 pm
Brocephus: Big difference between European countries and the US when it comes to multi-culturalism. Almost every European country is homogenous with outsiders moving in. The US began and has always existed because of multi-culturalism. It’s not like every immigrant that has landed on the shores of the US has come from the same culture or even the same continent.
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i have to disagree. In the past here in America each knew immigrant brought their own little spice to add to the stew and assimilated. We celebrated the things that united us. Now how ever we “celebrate” the things that divide us. Everyone has an agenda and a “right” for not assimilating. Our “culture” is supposed to mold around them, not them to the culture.
JamVet
July 23rd, 2011
5:32 pm
Dance, Thelma, dance…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY_DF2Af3LM
josef
July 23rd, 2011
5:32 pm
BROSEPHUS
Yeah, that’s it! Think we could get a grant to study it?
josef
July 23rd, 2011
5:34 pm
JamVet
Why have you taken to calling him Thelma?
Fred
July 23rd, 2011
5:36 pm
@@
July 23rd, 2011
5:04 pm
Why did AmVet change his name to JamVet?
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I could be mistaken, but he does it on the weekends starting with Jay’s Friday night music thread. For many of us, “jam’ meant play music, it’s a musicians term. We have ‘jam sessions’ and we “jam out” and so forth.
But like I said i may be mistaken. I doubt it though…….
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
July 23rd, 2011
5:36 pm
It’s interesting how unnerved the left on here has become. Don’t know if this reflects a national condition or not. The loony left has always been the loony left but it seems that at least on this blog they’re really coming unglued. Maybe it has something to do with the countries rejection of their ideology but the country has really always rejected their ideology. Obuma is an aberration who’ll be voted out next year. This Christian hate is pathetic as the United States has always been a Christian country from our beginning. It must indeed be miserable to continue living in a country whose principals are so far apart from the far-lefts positions on most everything. Maybe some of you should consider relocating to perhaps a Muslim country where you may feel more at home.
Brosephus
July 23rd, 2011
5:37 pm
UJ
Yeah, if you wanna take the simple approach.
Fred
That America has not changed nor has it disappeared. What you are witnessing is the small minded and loud mouthed drowning out the conversations going on everywhere else. You got different races and nationalities watchin NASCAR at the same track. Fireworks displays always bring out different groups to come enjoy things. That America hasn’t gone anywhere and will not because that is ultimately what America means to those who come here seeking to better themselves.
The only reason that it appears that people celebrate the things that divide us is because, unlike past groups, we have not even attempted to get to know each other to actually learn the things we all have in common. Think of the number of people nowadays that know who their neighbors are versus 30-40 years ago. It’s of our own doing. When we became selfish and looked out for ourselves versus looking out for everyone, that’s when things changed for some.
Uncle Jed
July 23rd, 2011
5:38 pm
CNN Poll: Drop in liberal support pushes Obama approval rating down
Washington (CNN) – President Barack Obama’s approval rating is down to 45 percent, driven in part by growing dissatisfaction on the left with the president’s track record in office, according to a new national survey.
A CNN/ORC International Poll also indicates that the Republican “brand” is taking a beating in the minds of Americans.
…According to the poll, the president’s 45 percent approval rating is down three points from June. Fifty-four percent of people questioned disapprove of how Obama’s handling his duties, up six points from last month. His 54 percent disapproval rating ties the all-time high in CNN polling that the president initially reached just before last year’s midterm elections.
“But drill down into that number and you’ll see signs of a stirring discontent on the left,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. “Thirty-eight percent say they disapprove because President Obama has been too liberal, but 13 percent say they disapprove of Obama because he has not been liberal enough – nearly double what it was in May, when the question was last asked, and the first time that number has hit double digits in Obama’s presidency.”…
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/22/cnn-poll-drop-in-liberal-support-pushes-obama-approval-rating-down/?hpt=hp_t2
JamVet
July 23rd, 2011
5:42 pm
jo, because Louise doesn’t sound right?
Freddie’s correct. It was suggested by another blogger, and I use it on weekends, for the reason he notes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8oZAeL084Q
Uncle Jed
July 23rd, 2011
5:44 pm
WTW
(translation:What The WU)
Rep. David Wu has been accused of an “unwanted sexual encounter” with the teenage daughter of a longtime friend, the latest scandal to engulf the troubled Oregon Democrat.
The Oregonian reported that the 56-year-old Wu “acknowledged a sexual encounter to his senior aides but insisted it was consensual,” according to sources aware of the incident.
Let’s hope there aren’t photos of his egg roll forthcoming
(take it easy, no offense intended)
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/59706.html#ixzz1Sy10NXzD
josef
July 23rd, 2011
5:49 pm
@@
And that is the point…I’d agree…and the comment about the suspect’s name…if I were to see it in another context, my “assumption” would be that it’s “Jewish.” We all make those assumptions. Of course when I heard the first reports on Norway my “assumption” was that it was al Qaaida style terrorists. When the first reports of the suspect on film described him as “blond,” my first thought was “a convert zealot.” Not my conclusions, mind you, but my assumptions. Some would call it “profiling,” and were I involved in security matters, so would I. Really, though, it is simple prejudice, pre judging. And drawing that “judgment” from the sketchy information at hand and characteristics this event had with others in a pattern.
Finally, though, even if my assumptions had been correct, the fellow would still have been an unhinged lunatic hearing “voices” of some sort or another.
Midori
July 23rd, 2011
5:54 pm
and Thulsa smokes his crack by the vat full.
Soothsayer
July 23rd, 2011
5:57 pm
I am not a Right-Wing nutcase.
I am not a Right-Wing nutcase.
I am not a Right-Wing nutcase.
I am not a Right-Wing nutcase.
I am not a Right-Wing nutcase.
I am not a Right-Wing nutcase.
Fred
July 23rd, 2011
5:57 pm
Jamvet: I’m amazing at taking disjointed and often irrelevant facts and stringing them together in an intuitive leap that is incomprehensible to most people lol.
(come on, was it THAT hard lol)
But to string two conversations together: I was playing the tune you just linked (full version) in the barracks when I was a private. My Sergeant who was a very militant black man came in and asked me what that “Jazz” tune was that I was playing and would I record it for him if he gave me a tape.
Ties in with the melting pot thing from Brocephus. And to add even MORE completely irrelevant information, I was once in a band with Lamar Williams younger brother. like his brother, Lamar was a bass player who brought black soul to rock and roll. Lamar for those of you who don’t know, was the bass player for the Allman brothers before he got drafted and went to Viet Nam, and then again after he returned. He’s on the Album ‘Brother’s and Sister’s’ I think…….. He didn’t do to many others, he OD’ed on herion. Kirby Williams told me they called it Agent Orange, but it was really a heroin OD.
Of course when I just googled that all, Wiki says Kirby was really named James and I can’t find ANY info on him. I’ll stand by my first thoughts though. Kirby toured with the Isely Brothers and others and could fill in in a minute for any bass player. He was really that good………..
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
July 23rd, 2011
5:58 pm
Smoking a crack that sounds a bit vulgar.
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2011
5:59 pm
Brocephus,
From what I’ve been reading there is a fast growing backlash in Europe against Muslim immigration. They don’t assimilate into the western societies and I believe German chancellor Merkel flat out stated several months ago that multiculturalism and assimilation of Muslims in Europe had failed.
In France and Britain they tend to concentrate in their own ethnic enclaves and in various surveys the majority of them want to live under sharia law and not under the secular laws of the nations in which they live. From what I’ve seen they are not assimilating. They are Balkanizing those countries and as their populations grow they are demanding more and more from their host countries. The tension is definitely mounting over there and unfortunately there will be more and more incidents like this.
I also saw a special I think it was on 60 minutes about a Muslim enclave in Paris where they had driven out all the francophiles. There was one female shopkeeper left that refused to be run out of the neighborhood. She has been attacked and several times threatened- one of the attacks she had acid thrown at her. And as we’ve all seen there have been a number of localized riots over there by Muslim youth. This lack of assimilation problem and the reactionarys that inevitably result from it like this kook are not going away.
josef
July 23rd, 2011
6:00 pm
ZamVet
Just checking to make sure!
Okay, let me jump in on the “multicultural” bru-ha. Part of my job is to promote the concept as the foundation of what being American has been since at least Jamestown, both in reality and in ideal. The attack on it has been more an attack on the messanger than the message. The messanger has been identified as “liberal” and therefore the message must be as well. Actually, multiculturalism is a rather conservative philosophy with it’s essential message that “we’re all G-d’s children” and “love thy neighbor as thyself.” It has not been a failure in the United States of America and is, indeed, our greatest gift to the world. It SHOULD be celebrated.
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2011
6:02 pm
Midori- just another adoring fan. Intelligent discourse- nope. Drive by insult- of course!
@@
July 23rd, 2011
6:03 pm
josef:
YUP! A nutjob like any other. But ‘ya know…I saw his facebook picture…he looks like Sting. He pops his collar so he MIGHT be
GAY!!??!!
Metrosexual!!??!!
An Ivy-Leaguer!!??!!
(ISH)
Over at Prison Planet they’re showing him as a Freemason.
SoCo:
Didn’t you have a relative who was a Mason?
Soothsayer
July 23rd, 2011
6:04 pm
Norway police arrive 90 minutes after firing began (AJC)
The shooting came on the heels of what police told The Associated Press was an “Oklahoma city-type” bombing in Oslo’s downtown: It targeted a government building, was allegedly perpetrated by a homegrown assailant and used the same mix of fertilizer and fuel that blew up a federal building in the U.S. in 1995.
Even police confessed to not knowing much about the suspect, but details trickled out about him all day: He had ties to a right-leaning political party, he posted on Christian fundamentalist websites, and he rented a farm where police found 9,000-11,000 pounds (4,000-5,000 kilograms) of fertilizer.
Timothy McVeigh anyone?
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2011
6:05 pm
I loved the dance video. Loved it! My personal fool, my clown, my court jester. He never ceases to amuse me. And yes. He is here for my freaking amusement.
josef
July 23rd, 2011
6:06 pm
Enter your comments here
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
July 23rd, 2011
6:07 pm
Oh well time to put my marinated steaks on the grill. Followed this evening after our meal with a Perdomo Presidente Mudero cigar along with a little sour mash over the rocks with a twist of lime. Have a great evening y’all.
Fred
July 23rd, 2011
6:08 pm
“I also saw a special I think it was on 60 minutes”
60 minutes? Really? Brother I wouldn’t have TOLD that………
Sixty minutes make Foxnews, CNN AND the Huffington post look legitimate………….
JamVet
July 23rd, 2011
6:08 pm
Great “explanation”, Fred!
And very cool story. I absolutely adored those early black girl bands and later much more sophisticated stuff – musically and thematically – like Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, etc. It was then that I learned that a lot of black cats (and kitties) got into the white music too. I think it was a huge part of the liberal/progressive moment toward bridging the racial gaps.
Courtesy of Carole King…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyOqKhKWQ4
josef
July 23rd, 2011
6:09 pm
midori
Sent you a song page 1 last p.m.
@@
You didn’t! And you know what? Unmentionable and I both at the same time we saw that picture said “oh, sh*t!” ISH
Brosephus
July 23rd, 2011
6:14 pm
josef
Don’t think we’ll get the fed grant, not with all the talk of budget cuts. We may have to go for a privately funded grant.
Doom
The reason I don’t worry about that happening here is because of our population totals and land area versus those in Europe. We have the land area to probably grow to nearly 1 billion people and still not have the population density of most European countries. We have our own forms of Balkanization going on here with the FLDS groups and other groups that self-segregate. Sharia Law here would amount to nothing more than what prison law already is. It may dictate a small enclosed segment of society, but it’s completely worthless within our legals system.
I’m not gonna say it can’t be a problem here, but I don’t see us having it at the same magnitude as Europeans.
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Got lots of family that are Masons. April 1st next year will be 20 years for me.
josef
July 23rd, 2011
6:16 pm
THULSA
Drawing parallels between European and American multiculturalism is questionable. The European experience has been anything but historically even in the age of empires, thus their collapse. Here in the Americas it has been quite the opposite. One of the mistakes they made that we didn’t repeat. Our path has not been without its failures and without its flaws. We also have been able to recognize where and how we made those flaws and to recognize that we made those errors when we turned our backs on that ideal.
Mick
July 23rd, 2011
6:17 pm
scout
This one’s for you-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK2P70K4c94
Mighty Righty
July 23rd, 2011
6:20 pm
Rasmussen Consumer Index
Consumer Confidence Falls to Another New Low, 63% Say Economy Getting Worse
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After falling to a new two-year low on Friday, consumer confidence fell even further on Saturday.
The Rasmussen Consumer Index, which measures the economic confidence of consumers on a daily basis, fell three more points on Saturday to 64.8. That’s the lowest level of confidence recorded since July 10, 2009 and is down 29 points from this year’s high-water mark of 93.3. Consumer confidence is down four points from a week ago, down ten points from a month ago and down thirteen points from three months ago.
Only 9% rate the economy as good or excellent while 61% say it’s in poor shape. Sixteen percent (16%) say it’s getting better while 63% believe it is getting worse.
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2011
6:22 pm
Fred,
Cons usually hate 60 minutes for what they perceive as a liberal bias. Nevertheless I still enjoy some of their docs and stories. Often there is a bias one way or another but putting that bias aside they still have some interesting segments.
Soothsayer
July 23rd, 2011
6:22 pm
Who is the suspect in the Norway attacks?
[A] right-wing Christian fundamentalist who may have had an issue with Norway’s multi-cultural society.
He was a youth and adult member of the conservative Fremskrittspartiet (FrP) or Progress Party, VG newspaper reports, remaining involved until 2007. The party’s most prominent manifesto pledge is to minimize immigration.
His membership was confirmed by a senior party member, Jonas Kallmyr, who is quoted by VG as saying that encountering Breivik was “like meeting Hitler before World War II.”
A post in Breivik’s name on an online forum, Document.no, from December 2009, talks about non-Muslim teenagers being “in an especially precarious situation with regards to being harassed by Islamic youth.”
“I know of many hundred occasions where non-Muslims have been robbed, beaten up and harassed by Islamic gangs,” the post reads. “I had a best friend between the ages of 12-17 who was a Pakistani, so I was one of the many protected, cool ‘potatoes’ that had protection. But this also made me see the hypocrisy up close and personal and made me nauseous.”
Another post in Breivik’s name in October 2009 advises “Hans”, described as the founder of Document.no, to “develop an alternative to the violent extreme Norwegian Marxist organisations Blitz, SOS Rasisme and Rod Ungdom” — all left-wing movements in Norway.
“The conservatives dare not openly express their viewpoints in public because they know that the extreme Marxists will trump them. We cannot accept the fact that the Labour Party is subsidising these violent “Stoltenberg jugend”, who are systematically terrorising the politically conservative,” the post reads.
If you disagree with me, I’ll kill you!
josef
July 23rd, 2011
6:28 pm
FRED
Earlier you said that we “assimilated” our various elements. I think there is where the problem lies with the Europeans. They seek to “assimilate.” We chose to “amalgamate.”
Soothsayer
July 23rd, 2011
6:35 pm
Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Stoere told reporters that the attacks, believed to be the work of a man who has posted on Christian fundamentalist websites, showed you can’t jump to conclusions about terror acts. He said most of the political violence that Norway has seen has come from the extreme right.
Midori
July 23rd, 2011
6:38 pm
you like all the pretty colors, don’t you Thulsa?
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 23rd, 2011
6:40 pm
Well, what happened in Norway is what you get when you got gun control. If those kids were packing he wouldn’t of got more than one or two of them before they started firing back. I hear even the guards at that camp never had any guns.
We need a law that makes every kid pack heat. I’m sure some of us Conservatives will start working with the NRA to get the law passed. After that, you won’t hear any more about bullying and drive-by shootings and that kind of junk. Maybe there could be a age limit, like 6 or so. We don’t need guns in the hands of real young kids. We can be reasonable about it.
Heading to Billy Bob’s to solve the world’s problems. Have a good Saturday night everybody. No need to thank me for hauling the liquid refreshment you’ll be using.
1811/0311
July 23rd, 2011
6:41 pm
A response to an earlier post about “Christian” and Muslim madmen:
1) What makes a person a “Christian”.
A person is not born or baptized as an infant or “stamped” a Christian. You are not “inducted” into the Christian faith. You do not receive a tattoo, document or award which makes you a Christian.
No ………….. a Christian is a person of accountability who has had a miraculous spiritual change in their soul through the power and indwelling of the Holy Spirit. One who has called on God in true repentance believing in the Lord Jesus Christ as their Saviour for His atonement on the cross for their sins.
Murderers are NOT Christians:
Revelation 21:8 (New International Version)
“But ……………. murderers ………….. will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second (spiritual) death.”
2) A Muslim is born a Muslim.
1811/0311
July 23rd, 2011
6:44 pm
Mick:
“If you run you’ll just die tired”
Soothsayer
July 23rd, 2011
6:44 pm
Speaking of which, Redneck, I’m running a little low. You think you could swing by the house and drop off a couple of “suitcases?”
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2011
6:44 pm
Midori,
They are oh so pretty….
Midori
July 23rd, 2011
6:46 pm
LOL, Thulsa
Midori
July 23rd, 2011
6:47 pm
Hi Sooth
1811/0311
July 23rd, 2011
6:47 pm
America and Christianity:
Pg 331 (New York: A.S. Barns & Co., 1851)
“Moreover, almost all the sects of the United States are comprised within the great unity of Christianity, and Christian morality is everywhere the same. In the United States the sovereign authority is religious, and consequently hypocrisy must be common; but there is no country in the whole world in which the Christian religion retains a greater influence over the souls of men than in America, and there can be no greater proof of its utility, and of its conformity to human nature, than that its influence is most powerfully felt over the most enlightened and free nation of the earth.”
Pg 332 (New York: A.S. Barns & Co., 1851)
“The Americans combine the notions of Christianity and of liberty so intimately in their minds, that it is impossible to make them conceive the one without the other; and with them this conviction does not spring from that barren traditionary faith which seems to vegetate in the soul rather than to live.”
Alexis de Tocqueville
Soothsayer
July 23rd, 2011
6:47 pm
Hi Midori, how was the hike?
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 23rd, 2011
6:50 pm
You think you could swing by the house and drop off a couple of “suitcases?”
No, you old drunk. You can go out and buy more. It’s still Saturday. Besides, I don’t beleive in working on Saturday or of course on the Sabbath. If you’re really hard up just use some after-shave lotion. It’s about 30% alcohol. You’ll be just as soused and you’ll smell good besides. Or at least better than you smell about 340 days of the year. But don’t expect me to bail you out just because you never had the forsight to lay in a stock to tide you over.
Midori
July 23rd, 2011
6:51 pm
it was exhilarating Sooth. I trekked mostly around Venerable Lake. Tomorrow I’m going all the way around he mountain. I figure I got in 2.5 miles today
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2011
6:53 pm
Midori,
I aim to please.
Soothsayer
July 23rd, 2011
6:53 pm
I’m not familiar with Venerable Lake. Where is it? Have you ever hiked Sawnee Mtn?
Soothsayer
July 23rd, 2011
6:55 pm
You know you’re right, Redneck, you’ve done worked hard all week and it’s up to me to head out to the beer store.
Midori
July 23rd, 2011
7:01 pm
Sooth – on the right bottom of this map: http://www.stonemountainpark.com/images/maps/hiking/smp_map_hiking_map.gif
I did the nature trail, then followed the Cherokee Trail around the lake and back to Confederate Hall
Charmanaca
July 23rd, 2011
7:02 pm
“I’m not familiar with Venerable Lake. Where is it?”
That’s ’cause it’s not Venerable Lake, it’s Venable Lake dipstick. You gave yourself away as an APS grad.