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Bruno
July 25th, 2011
11:37 pm
Scout @ 11:32–Do you literally believe there is a being out in space who we will meet after we die?? The mechanics of how that meeting may occur are stumping me. Any ideas??
Paul
July 25th, 2011
11:38 pm
Keep Up
I’ve been wondering about the characterizations of “Islamists aren’t Muslims but the Norwegian guy and those like him are Christians” thing. Seems inconsistent.
And I generally don’t do the abortion discussions.. Way too many emotions. But as far as the abortion protestors who justify killing others, I guess it’s back to the same retort as before – any justification is one they came up with, not cited in the NT or anything Jesus ever said. He was more about personal enlightenment and spiritual, not material (of this world), anyhow.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 25th, 2011
11:38 pm
What Doom meant to say: but in all seriousness that is kinda bizarre that a political party would hold camps for kids except of course when its the tea party putting on the camps or creating kids comic books…why then y’all are just tea party haters
____________________
You really need to work on intellectual honesty in a single page of posts, much less an entire blog.
Paul
July 25th, 2011
11:40 pm
Scout
Kind of a long way of saying “mind your own business.” Still like it, though.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 25th, 2011
11:41 pm
Paul, I have no problem with consistent definitions….I think you see the inconsistency because the right denies Christian extremists as part of the religion but demands that Islamic extremists MUST be part of Islam.
Thulsa Doom
July 25th, 2011
11:41 pm
Paul,
I don’t know where the concept of an eternal hell came from and if you say it came from the Persians then I’ll believe it. Where is josef when we need him to confirm it? I was personally always turned off to Christianity half of my life because I never could understand how a loving God could condemn people to an eternal torment for the sins of one lifetime. Now that I understand things differently and that this is not in fact true I’m back to a belief in God. I think a lot of people intuitively know that the punishment of an eternal hell doesn’t seem right even for many of the worst people in society and so many others like myself were probably turned off for the same reason.
Thulsa Doom
July 25th, 2011
11:48 pm
keep up,
Of course there are Christian extremists. But how many are there relative to Muslim extremists? I mean seriously. Look at the sheer size and scale of Christian extremists vis a vis Muslim extremists. We have a Tim McVeigh once a decade blowing something up while the Muslims are doing it every day. Its a matter of scale and scope.
And to say Christian extremism is a problem on par with Muslim extremism when this craziness happens once in a blue moon is ludicrous. In pure numbers of fanatics willing to kill in the name of their religion and in the body bag count there is simply no comparison between Christian terrorism which is non-existent except for isolated cases and Muslim extremism in which bombings, beheadings, and persecution of others takes place on a daily basis. And I do mean daily.
Bruno
July 25th, 2011
11:48 pm
There every kid had to come down and confess their sins and cry and all that stuff. In my view it was nothing short of brainwashing and pressuring kids with guilt into believing in God.
TD–As a businessman, I’m sure you’ve developed a good ability to discern when people aren’t telling the truth. For me, the BS-O-Meter starts clanging immediately whenever a preacher opens his mouth.
Paul
July 25th, 2011
11:51 pm
Keep up
Well there is that, isn’t there?
Thulsa
Don’t quote me on that. Heard a reference from a guy I greatly respect (dual doctorates, chair of a dept at one of the Univ of Calif colleges) but I never ran it down. I think it’s likely a multiplicity of causes, not just one. I also think it came from inaccurate interpretations (one of the words conjuring up that vision was used to describe the burning trash dump outside Jerusalem’s outer wall) but also a strong indications it got its legs when works such as Dante’s Inferno were published.
I tend to think of the whole ‘afterlife reward/punishment’ think more in terms of a the spiritual enlightenment we attain here. Not so material/physical.
Anyhow, with that, even tho I’m on an earlier time than most of you, I’m tired.
Pleasant evening, all –
Thulsa Doom
July 25th, 2011
11:51 pm
keep up,
Intellectual honesty? I think you need some serious help in this department when you start trying to compare muslim terrorism and extremism with Christian extremism and terrorism. Not just intellectual honesty but in critical thinking skills. You are completely and totally lacking in scale, scope, and perspective when you try and compare the 2.
Anway, I’m out. Ya’ll have a good evening.
Paul
July 25th, 2011
11:54 pm
Thulsa – Keep Up
One last point: still seems to me one of those groups use religion as what they are that they say commands them to do what they do. The other group – more of an identifiable characteristic they don’t seriously say ‘this teaches me how to live my life and tells me what to do.”
Bottom line: they’re both evil.
g’night –
Thulsa Doom
July 25th, 2011
11:55 pm
Bruno,
I’m out for the evening but the funniest thing I’ve heard a preacher say I heard twice from 2 of them. They both said if you’re looking for hypocrites the biggest ones you’ll find are in church. I’ve personally found that too be true in a few cases with a handful of people that think going to church allows them to sin like crazy the rest of the week and be generally bad people- preachy and judgemental too. Anyway, evening all.
1811/0311
July 26th, 2011
12:06 am
Bruno:
Well, if the Creator gave man the knowledge of how to get to and live in “space”, I think He can find a way to get us to Heaven.
In brief:
“Without faith it is impossible to pleae God ! “
Dave R.
July 26th, 2011
12:13 am
“Here is the big problem facing Right-Wing bloggers who come over to this blog: you come armed with rote knowledge that you learned “monkey-hear, monkey say.”
This from the 9/11 truther who, 9 times out of 10, posts ONLY links to other people’s thoughts, not his own . . .
Ya just can’t make this stuff up!
Bruno
July 26th, 2011
12:14 am
Not picking, Scout, just wondering what your vision of how the Physics works out. Space is a large place. So far the Hubble telescope hasn’t sighted any Golden Mansions out there. From what I’m guessing, our “soul”, which has no measurable physical existence, would have to travel gazillions of miles to this special place. As far as I know, the “soul” can’t see, hear, smell, touch or taste given it’s lack of any physical apparatus. I might be better able to understand your faith if you could give me some ideas of the mechanism behind the afterlife referenced in the Bible.
Dave R.
July 26th, 2011
12:15 am
Just looked at the picture again of the Norwegian mass murderer.
Looks a lot like Julian Assange (Wiki-Leaks), doesn’t he?
Just a couple of rat-weasels.
Bruno
July 26th, 2011
12:17 am
Dave R @ 12:13–Whenever someone here whips out the old “Conservatives can’t think on their own” or starts talking about “Rush-bots” and the like, I know that they have no critical thinking skills of their own. Otherwise they would debate the point at hand.
Dave R.
July 26th, 2011
12:19 am
Hey, Bruno.
Sox are tied 1-1, bottom of the 9th with 2 on and 1 out. Crawford is up.
Bruno
July 26th, 2011
12:22 am
Not a Sox fan tonight, Dave, but I’ll cheer for you anyway. I was a St Louis fan tonight, and they won fairly easily. Still not sure why, but I missed Seattle’s lengthy losing streak. I’ll give you a shout tomorrow if I go with the Sox.
Dave R.
July 26th, 2011
12:24 am
Seattle extended their losing streak another game by getting hammered by the Dark Side in the HellMouth.
Dark Side = NY Yankees, HellMouth = Yankee Stadium for those who aren’t Red Sox fans.
Bruno
July 26th, 2011
12:29 am
As fro my emotional fanhood, I’m for the Phillies all the way. Can’t tell you why, but my instinct is that the Red Sox won’t be the WS rep this year. Might be Texas again.
Dave R.
July 26th, 2011
12:31 am
“YOUR JOB ISN’T PAID FOR WITH YOUR BOSS’S PERSONAL INCOME.”
Actually, Adam, in the case of some of the talking heads on TV, they ARE responsible for their people’s employment. They usually run a separate production company from the network they broadcast from, using the revenues they’re paid in their contracts to pay their staff’s salary and benefits.
Beck was that way if I remember correctly, and Ed Schultz has mentioned that any number of times.
So you’re wrong again. (As usual)
Dave R.
July 26th, 2011
12:36 am
I don’t know, Bruno.
Even looking at them without a fan’s eyes, they’ve got the second best record in the majors, in an historically tough division, after starting off 2-10 (someone said they’ve been winning at a .690 clip since the 13th game) and they’ve had no Dice K, Lester and Bucholz have been out almost a month, Crawford a month, and Lackey started slow again this year.
If they get everyone back healthy, they get some very rested arms on two of their aces in the last 2 months. And they’ve handled the Dark Side evey game thus far this year.
Bruno
July 26th, 2011
12:38 am
Dave @ 12:31–Both Adam and Paul made a logical error earlier. Not all wealthy people create jobs, but all job creators have wealth.
Bruno
July 26th, 2011
12:42 am
Dave–I guess my concern is their 4.2 runs given up per game thus far. In a tight series, great pitching (think Phillies) will win out. By contrast, the Phils only give up 3.3 runs per game. I understand that the National and American League numbers don’t match up exactly due to the DH, but that’s almost 1 run per game difference.
Bruno
July 26th, 2011
12:45 am
Too tired to think any more, catch you later.
Dave R.
July 26th, 2011
12:47 am
Good night.
Gandalf the Wise
July 26th, 2011
2:06 am
Default? What an idiot your Barry is! Why won’t he just cut expenses? Cuz he’s an idiot and so is that moron of a VP he has there in that White House.
Gandalf the Wise
July 26th, 2011
4:57 am
B-ho…now that is a funny, yet telling, nickname for your PRESBO!
Normal
July 26th, 2011
6:51 am
Happy morning to all y’all! Hope it will bw a great one!
My view exactly…
http://icanhascheezburger.com/2011/07/25/funny-pictures-cat-in-rainbow-marker-fortress/
Normal
July 26th, 2011
6:57 am
Two very important things happened on this day.
1, 1775, the US post Office was established, and…
2. In 1975, Van McCoys “The Hustle” made #1 on the Pop Charts.
Granny Godzilla
July 26th, 2011
7:14 am
Good Morning Campers!
Have we all contacted our congress critters?
I surely did.
I understand the Congressional Server is back up.
Normal
July 26th, 2011
7:19 am
Granny,
I heard on NPR that Boehner’s site crashed.
RW-(the original)
July 26th, 2011
7:20 am
And in trivial baseball news from this day in history.
1. 1928 the Yankees won an extra inning game 12-1 by scoring 11 times in the 12th inning.
2. 1990 Roseann Barr massacred the National Anthem in San Diego.
Mary Elizabeth
July 26th, 2011
7:25 am
Good Tuesday morning all. Here is today’s editorial from The New York Times entitled “The Republican Wreckage.” Call your Congressmen and women and ask them to support the Reid plan.
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Editorial – The New York Times
The Republican Wreckage
Published: July 25, 2011
“House Republicans have lost sight of the country’s welfare. It’s hard to conclude anything else from their latest actions, including the House speaker’s dismissal of President Obama’s plea for compromise Monday night. They have largely succeeded in their campaign to ransom America’s economy for the biggest spending cuts in a generation. They have warped an exercise in paying off current debt into an argument about future spending. Yet, when they win another concession, they walk away.
This increasingly reckless game has pushed the nation to the brink of ruinous default. The Republicans have dimmed the futures of millions of jobless Americans, whose hopes for work grow more out of reach as government job programs are cut and interest rates begin to rise. They have made the federal government a laughingstock around the globe.
In a scathing prime-time television address Monday night, President Obama stepped off the sidelines to tell Americans the House Republicans were threatening a “deep economic crisis” that could send interest rates skyrocketing and hold up Social Security and veterans’ checks. By insisting on a single-minded approach and refusing to negotiate, he said, Republicans were violating the country’s founding principle of compromise.
‘How can we ask a student to pay more for college before we ask hedge fund managers to stop paying taxes at a lower rate than their secretaries?’ he said, invoking Ronald Reagan’s effort to make everyone pay a fair share and pointing out that his immediate predecessors had to ask for debt-ceiling increases under rules invented by Congress. He urged viewers to demand compromise. “The entire world is watching,” he said.
Mr. Obama denounced House Speaker John Boehner’s proposal to make cuts only, now, and raise the debt ceiling briefly, but he embraced the proposal made over the weekend by the Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, which gave Republicans virtually everything they said they wanted when they ignited this artificial crisis: $2.7 trillion from government spending over the next decade, with no revenue increases. It is, in fact, an awful plan, which cuts spending far too deeply at a time when the government should be summoning all its resources to solve the real economic problem of unemployment. It asks for absolutely no sacrifice from those who have prospered immensely as economic inequality has grown.
Mr. Reid’s proposal does at least protect Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. And about half of its savings comes from the winding down of two wars, which naturally has drawn Republican opposition. (Though Republicans counted the same savings in their budgets.)
Mr. Boehner will not accept this as the last-ditch surrender that it is. The speaker, who followed Mr. Obama on TV with about five minutes of hoary talking points clearly written before the president spoke, is insisting on a plan that raises the debt ceiling until early next year and demands another vote on a balanced-budget amendment, rejected by the Senate last week. The result would be to stage this same debate over again in an election year. Never mind that this would almost certainly result in an immediate downgrade of the government’s credit.
Mr. Obama denounced House Speaker John Boehner’s proposal to make cuts only, now, and raise the debt ceiling briefly, but he embraced the proposal made over the weekend by the Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, which gave Republicans virtually everything they said they wanted when they ignited this artificial crisis: $2.7 trillion from government spending over the next decade, with no revenue increases. It is, in fact, an awful plan, which cuts spending far too deeply at a time when the government should be summoning all its resources to solve the real economic problem of unemployment. It asks for absolutely no sacrifice from those who have prospered immensely as economic inequality has grown.
Mr. Reid’s proposal does at least protect Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. And about half of its savings comes from the winding down of two wars, which naturally has drawn Republican opposition. (Though Republicans counted the same savings in their budgets.)
Mr. Boehner will not accept this as the last-ditch surrender that it is. The speaker, who followed Mr. Obama on TV with about five minutes of hoary talking points clearly written before the president spoke, is insisting on a plan that raises the debt ceiling until early next year and demands another vote on a balanced-budget amendment, rejected by the Senate last week. The result would be to stage this same debate over again in an election year. Never mind that this would almost certainly result in an immediate downgrade of the government’s credit.
Mr. Obama denounced House Speaker John Boehner’s proposal to make cuts only, now, and raise the debt ceiling briefly, but he embraced the proposal made over the weekend by the Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, which gave Republicans virtually everything they said they wanted when they ignited this artificial crisis: $2.7 trillion from government spending over the next decade, with no revenue increases. It is, in fact, an awful plan, which cuts spending far too deeply at a time when the government should be summoning all its resources to solve the real economic problem of unemployment. It asks for absolutely no sacrifice from those who have prospered immensely as economic inequality has grown.
Mr. Reid’s proposal does at least protect Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. And about half of its savings comes from the winding down of two wars, which naturally has drawn Republican opposition. (Though Republicans counted the same savings in their budgets.)
Mr. Boehner will not accept this as the last-ditch surrender that it is. The speaker, who followed Mr. Obama on TV with about five minutes of hoary talking points clearly written before the president spoke, is insisting on a plan that raises the debt ceiling until early next year and demands another vote on a balanced-budget amendment, rejected by the Senate last week. The result would be to stage this same debate over again in an election year. Never mind that this would almost certainly result in an immediate downgrade of the government’s credit.
We agreed strongly when Mr. Obama said Americans should be “offended” by this display and that they “may have voted for divided government but they didn’t vote for a dysfunctional government.” It’s hard not to conclude now that dysfunction is the Republicans’ goal — even if the cost is unthinkable.”
Granny Godzilla
July 26th, 2011
7:32 am
Overheard from John Boehner while leaving the building last night
“”I didn’t sign up for going mano-a-mano with the President of the United States.”
What John? As Speaker of the House were you expecting perhaps a pillow fight? Rock, Paper, Scissors? Blind obedience to your will?
Mary Elizabeth
July 26th, 2011
7:35 am
Sorry about the duplication in the editorial, above.
When you get to this paragraph’s beginning, skip to the final paragraph:
“Mr. Obama denounced House Speaker John Boehner’s proposal to make cuts only,. . .”
Paul
July 26th, 2011
8:00 am
Morning, Granny
Read your post, emailed my Congressman, asked him to adapt to the extraordinary circumstances and support a balance of cuts and tax increases.
I understand such sentiment in my district is less than 16 percent.
carlosgvv
July 26th, 2011
8:02 am
There must be thouands and thousands of the elderly in nursing homes in America. Most of them have to pay for this with their SS checks. If this income ceased, the nursing homes would not hesitate to throw them out. Do you think this might get the attention of those brilliant Tea Party people in Congress? Or, are they so blinded by ideology, they just wouldn’t care? And, would their supporters still vote for them even though granny is now out in the street?
Paul
July 26th, 2011
8:05 am
carlosgvv
Heard the latest revenue/obligation projections for August.
Treasury’s expecting $172 billion coming in.
But they have bills to pay of $306 billion.
So to those who, like the blog earlier this morning who posted “just cut,” the question is, from where to get those kinds of numbers?
Granny Godzilla
July 26th, 2011
8:05 am
Paul
You are a Prince.
AmVet
July 26th, 2011
8:11 am
Paul, just a sent a note to my rep., Tom Price – a medical doctor before he lost his spine and went to Washington.
Yet more direct evidence of the devastation unleashed in the aftermath of the attempted corporate destruction of capitalism:
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) — The wealth gap in the United States has grown wider in the wake of the Great Recession, with black and Hispanic American households faring much worse than white households, according to a study published Tuesday.
The study, from 2009 data compiled by the Pew Research Center, found the median wealth of white households was 20 times that of black households and 18 times that of Hispanic households.
The wealth of white households in America has always been greater than black and Hispanic households. But the recession widened the gap significantly, with the spreads more than double what they were during the two decades leading up to the recession, the study said.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/07/26/news/economy/wealth_gap_white_black_hispanic/index.htm?cnn=yes&hpt=hp_t2
Granny Godzilla
July 26th, 2011
8:12 am
AmVet
You too are a Prince!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 26th, 2011
8:19 am
AmVet….I’ve contacted Price a number of times (including yesterday). Of course, I get back the form letter of deception and politispeach that ignores the real points but hits the talking points.
Paul
July 26th, 2011
8:20 am
AmVet
My Congressman’s a doctor, also.
He’s done the same thing I’ve seen other Congressmen and Senators who had an ideology but could be reasonable do – bowed to the current vocal mob of the day. I did tell him I found blanket references to people in the upper income levels to be intellectually insulting. Implication is he’s pandering but my point was to have him reconsider, not get angry and dismissive.
Re. your post: listened to Zbigniew Brzezinski this morning. Said for the past few years he’s been speaking of the growing wealth gap as a precursor of social unrest, which has national security implications.
So the next question of the morning for our robber baron capitalist bloggers is, (to borrow from the style of Sean Hannity): is it a good thing, good for our country, for the poor to get poorer?
Paul
July 26th, 2011
8:21 am
AmVet
Correction: “I did tell him I found blanket references to people in the upper income levels as ‘job creators’ to be intellectually insulting
Adam
July 26th, 2011
8:22 am
Dave R: They usually run a separate production company from the network they broadcast from, using the revenues they’re paid in their contracts to pay their staff’s salary and benefits.
In other words, their salary isn’t paid for with their boss’s personal income. Instead, it’s paid for by a separate entity created for the express purpose of producing the profit and then distributing salaries, including the boss’s salary.
Thanks for proving me right.
Left wing management
July 26th, 2011
8:23 am
We’ve arrived at a point where one of America’s two major parties believes it is inexcusable to ask the wealthy and privileged to give up even one iota of their privilege for the good of the nation. And they’re willing to trash the economy in defense of this insistence.
Tragically, this means that we’ll probably have to let them go ahead and trash it, because to capitulate to an extortion that brazen and outrageous would mean absolute and abject surrender to a nihilistic and virulent strain of power politics, which would be a bridge too far even for spineless Democrats. Even a man on his back with his tongue on the boot of his oppressor can draw a line in the end, after all it’s hard to say “thank you sir may I have another” when your tongue is firmly planted on that boot.
So here we are, facing the most serious governing crisis in this country perhaps since the 1860s.
Southern Comfort
July 26th, 2011
8:24 am
Granny G
Missed the post about sending letters. What am I supposed to do?
AmVet
Just read that story on the AJC this morning. I can guarantee the defenders of the wealthy will see it as perfectly fine. Those minorities just gotta pull themselves up by their bootstraps, nevermind the fact that they’re barefooted. They just gotta work harder.
Locally, yet another reason that our comprehensive transportation plan needs to be seriously focused on accessibility across the metro area as opposed to widening a county road that only a few will use…
In 2010, the number of international travelers to Georgia increased 19 percent while foreigners coming to Atlanta grew a whopping 25 percent, according to figures recently released from the U.S. Commerce Department’s Office of Travel & Tourism Industries.
Totals on domestic visitors to the state in 2010 won’t be available until later in the year.
The increase in international visitation is good news because tourism is one of the biggest industries in the metro area and the state, employing more than 233,000 in related jobs including hotels, restaurants and attractions.
It also may be a sign of a turnaround for metro Atlanta, which saw visitor spending drop 11 percent in 2009 to $9.8 billion dollars. It had been as high as $11.4 billion in 2006 and 2007.
http://www.ajc.com/business/more-tourists-coming-to-1045956.html
Why would it not make sense to have a transit system where someone staying in downtown Atlanta couldn’t catch a train or bus to Six Flags, the Mall of GA, Kennesaw Mtn,, or any other tourist destination in the metro area? Mobile tourists spend more money than somebody sitting in a hotel room, and not all tourist want to rent a car just to get around.
Warm Springs, Georgia
July 26th, 2011
8:25 am
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The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself !
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AmVet
July 26th, 2011
8:25 am
Keep, one of his more illuminating canards are the “town hall” meetings he holds via telephone. He allows certain callers to ask him questions, and it is a study in obsequious toadyism.
One caller asked him why there was such gridlock in Washington, and he did the manly thing and admitted he and his colleagues and cohorts in orthodoxy were all to blame. OH WAIT! I was daydreaming for a moment there.
His answer? The party’s “leadership” was to blame. Had I only been able to immediately call in and ask him., “Then why are you and your fellow apparatchiks obviously so unwilling to stand up to them?”
Typical gutless, do-nothing politician, who sells his constituents down the river for a “living”…
Adam
July 26th, 2011
8:25 am
A side note, news today: “The last thing America’s job-seekers need are policies that require them to have a job in order to get a job” – One quote from the article that I fully agree with.
Rival Debt Plans!
Adam
July 26th, 2011
8:26 am
30 pages! Is there a record on how many comments on one posting?
Normal
July 26th, 2011
8:27 am
Y’all,
). It was a 2011 Republican Census
Last night I found a letter from the GOP in my mail box (had to disinfect the box after that.
questionnaire. Had all the questions aligned to the conservative (crazy)
views of the Tea Party. I had fun with it. I also added a note giving my personal views of what is going on and all. I bet it will get me off their mailing list, but I was glad I didn’t have to spend a stamp on it. I sent my e-mail directly to the Speaker of the House but I heard his site crashed. I’ll take a chance and send another. I’ll also send one to the President and the Democratic party, telling them to keep their spine in place. No new taxes, no cuts in Medicare and Social Security!
Paul
July 26th, 2011
8:30 am
SoCom
If Granny’s not here, I’ll jump in -
To contact your Congressional Representative, start here:
https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml
Granny Godzilla
July 26th, 2011
8:31 am
Southern Comfort
President Obama asked us all last night to contact our members of congress and express our opinions on the debt ceiling situation.
Reports are that last night the volume of traffic was so high that the congressional servers went down.
I hope you can find the time to pop them an e-mail.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 26th, 2011
8:33 am
Am…I participated in one of those “town halls”……..Halfway through I hung up.
Southern Comfort
July 26th, 2011
8:36 am
Paul & GG
Okies!!! Didn’t watch the speech or any news yesterday. I’ve grown too tired of this partisaned stuff, and I’m not sure how much more of it I can stand. I’d like to pop them a bit more than just an e-mail, but I guess I’ll have to go that route for now. I think I will send all 535 an e-mail sometime this afternoon and express my feelings, in a subdued fashion, about this whole clusterfutch they’ve created.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 26th, 2011
8:37 am
Granny, of course that is why some Republicans are saying they are “leading” by ignorning the American public and “doing the right thing for the country”. Funny those same people still dont think Obama was “leading” when he supposedly ignored the American People on healthcare (according to them).
I am starting a new company: Mounted Goal Posts, Inc. I put the Goal Posts on a racing version of a pick up truck to move faster for the Republicans. I hope it moves fast enough. Wonder if I can hire the Go Daddy girls?
Southern Comfort
July 26th, 2011
8:38 am
AmV & Keep
Sounds like both of y’all lasted longer than I did. I sat in on one of Westmoreland’s calls, and hung up after the second question. From what little I heard, it was an ignore the fact that I don’t have any ideas of what the hell I’m doing so let’s bash Obama and the Demcrats town hall meeting. I didn’t want to participate in something that partisaned. Afterwards I soaked a few q-tips in kerosene to clean out my ear.
Mary Elizabeth
July 26th, 2011
8:43 am
In the past, I have called or faxed U.S. Representatives and Senators outside of my district. Raising the Debt Ceiling is such an important issue at this late date, that I hope many will consider contacting U. S. Senators and Representatives throughout the U.S. about this critical issue.
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
http://www.house.gov/representatives/
Southern Comfort
July 26th, 2011
8:44 am
Keep @ 8:37
Does it have a Hemi???
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_aWwr8g03OwY/SSVMDBpRvbI/AAAAAAAAABI/U5Sf_KlFcpw/s400/BFRTV.jpg
Paul
July 26th, 2011
8:44 am
Keep up
“I put the Goal Posts on a racing version of a pick up truck to move faster for the Republicans. I hope it moves fast enough. Wonder if I can hire the Go Daddy girls?”
Probably. They look like they’re used to pickups.
Granny Godzilla
July 26th, 2011
8:45 am
Attempted the telephone town hall thing a few time myself, to no avail.
It seems like a real chicken poop way to deal with voters.
Of course having been to real town halls at the Gwinnett Justice center and watching my congress critter literally squirm under questioning by
voters, I can see why he chickened out later on.
Probably didn’t sign up to go mano-a-mano with his constituents.
The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….
July 26th, 2011
8:45 am
AmVet
July 26th, 2011
8:25 am
“Typical gutless, do-nothing politician, who sells his constituents down the river for a “living”…”
You’re talking about Obama, right?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 26th, 2011
8:50 am
SoCo…. front mounted? Why you can use a Prius to do that!
Paul, I was going to considering a gentlemen’s club to hire
but the Republican Party had the place closed for a private party.
Southern Comfort
July 26th, 2011
8:52 am
Keep
But you can’t mount a wicked looking cowcatcher on the front of a Prius to mow people down, can you???
AmVet
July 26th, 2011
8:54 am
SoCo, as slavishly servile as Price is, at least unlike, Lynn “Uppity” Westmoreland, at least he doesn’t have a long track record of being a do-nothing and total buffoon. My condolences…
The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….
July 26th, 2011
8:54 am
Did you catch Obama’s infomercial last night? I thought this was interesting:
“The nation’s top talker uttered 4,526 words in those remarks. He said “balanced approach” seven times, three times in a single paragraph.”
Paul
July 26th, 2011
8:54 am
Republicans?
Gentlemen? That’s a euphemism, right?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 26th, 2011
8:55 am
well there is that…. Death Race 2012! Watch out grannie and slow babies (not intended to reference our favorite Granny!)
Granny Godzilla
July 26th, 2011
8:55 am
“But you can’t mount a wicked looking cowcatcher on the front of a Prius to mow people down, can you???”
I dispute that, I bet you could. I know some great welder and fabricators.
If you are moving goal posts and mowing down folks you really should do it in the most fuel efficient way.
Adam
July 26th, 2011
8:57 am
Sent to my representative this morning:
Hello,
As a voter in your district, it is important to me and to many that I know that the focus of our representatives be on jobs and the economy. One of the most important things that can be done to improve our economy and job creation has to do with the debt ceiling debate happening right now.
Polls seem to indicate that the media and our representatives, such as yourself, think that the American public on an individual level is not paying attention to the debt ceiling debate. This is incorrect. Nearly everyone I know is paying attention, and knows that not raising the debt ceiling will have serious and grave consequences for everyone, including themselves. They know their interest rates will go up, and that the government will not be able to pay for things that it has committed to already. They also know they will not vote for anyone who does not raise the debt ceiling.
Everyone I know, including myself, also knows that compromise is a necessary part of any serious governing. They know that leadership involves compromise. They also know that coming together to create a balanced approach to a deficit problem is the responsible way to deal with any debt, and that such an approach didn’t need to be coupled with the debt ceiling debate in order to be seriously debated in Washington by responsible individuals.
I, and many that I know, urge you to raise the debt ceiling as far into the future as possible, while also looking for a way to reduce our deficit through responsible spending cuts and responsible revenue increases. Most of us agree that a reform in the tax code that eliminates most, if not all, tax breaks for everyone while also lowering rates would be a great way to approach the revenue side. None of us want to see the current benefits of so called “entitlement” programs to suffer either, but we do understand that every government program has waste and can be trimmed to reduce that waste without negatively affecting the purpose of the programs.
We believe that the government must continue to pay its bills. We know what happens when interest rates go up and you’re already in debt. We know that makes it ten times more difficult to pay back any loans or credit. We know the government will be in the same boat if the debt ceiling is not raised and we know that will affect all of us on a personal level. Please do not let this happen.
Please raise the debt ceiling as far into the future as you can. Please use a balanced approach that deals with both revenues and spending cuts at the same time, in the same bill. But you do not have to raise the debt ceiling in the same bill as a deficit reduction package.
We will remember who took a balanced approach and a reasonable approach for the next 3-4 election cycles. We are watching, and we ARE paying attention.
Granny Godzilla
July 26th, 2011
8:58 am
Leggy
Did you contact Congress and express your point of view?
carlosgvv
July 26th, 2011
8:59 am
Paul – 8:05
That’s a very good question. I would start with our Military. We can no longer even begin to be the police officer of the world. Bring all the troops in Iraq, Afghanistan and Europe home. They can defend themselves. Next, make MAJOR cuts for foreign aid. If we are approaching default, why are we giving away money to other countries? Next, make a really serious effort to stop fraud in Medicare and Medicade no matter how politically incorrect it is. The above would not solve all our problems but it would get us started in the right direction.
Granny Godzilla
July 26th, 2011
9:00 am
Adam
Very well done. Thanks.
AmVet
July 26th, 2011
9:05 am
Lamp, you need some new shtick. Every time another human being is mentioned, see if you can avoid reflexively mentioning Barack the Uppity (your favorite term here).
Start out slowly and be sure to stretch first…
carlosgvv
July 26th, 2011
9:05 am
Adam
Of course you know your representative will probably never see that. Some aide will just trash it. And, if your Rep. does see it, odds are he/she is so out of touch they will probalbly just roll on the floor laughing.
The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….
July 26th, 2011
9:07 am
Adam
July 26th, 2011
8:57 am
“balanced approach”
Wow. Obama has totally indoctrinated you.
Paul
July 26th, 2011
9:09 am
carlosgvv
When I was in high school decades ago I would regularly go to the library and read Time and Newsweek. I still remember one article. Ex Sen Mike Mansfield was ambassador to Japan. The question was, why did we still have such a large military presence there? It cost billions. And this was when Japan was surging economically so the point was, one reason they were able to do so was because we were paying to defend them. I wondered how long that would last.
Better late than never.
And in light of the latest wealth gap data between whites and nonwhites, here’s a related question: why do you (not you, carlosgvv) automatically say Americans need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and stop relying on others to care for them,
but when it comes to Defense, you’re more than willing to keep others dependent on you and not insist they care for themselves?
Just another example of exalting corporate interests at the expense of citizens’ interests?
Granny Godzilla
July 26th, 2011
9:09 am
Leggy
I repeat
Did you contact Congress and express your point of view?
Doggone/GA
July 26th, 2011
9:13 am
“The question was, why did we still have such a large military presence there? It cost billions. And this was when Japan was surging economically so the point was, one reason they were able to do so was because we were paying to defend them. I wondered how long that would last. ”
I wonder how many people know the reason we ARE still in Japan.
Paul
July 26th, 2011
9:15 am
Doggone/GA
Sometimes I wonder how many people know we are in Japan…
Normal
July 26th, 2011
9:19 am
“I wonder how many people know the reason we ARE still in Japan.”
For the Sushi?
Doggone/GA
July 26th, 2011
9:19 am
Paul – that too!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 26th, 2011
9:22 am
Normal….I was going to suggest for the Godzilla’s!
Bosch
July 26th, 2011
9:25 am
I didn’t watch either speech last night, but it has come to past that when I hear any politician speak what I hear is the “Wah, Wah, Wah” noise when adults spoke in the Charlie Brown cartoons.
Granny Godzilla
July 26th, 2011
9:27 am
Keep
Can we help Mothra and those tiny singing Japanese girls too?
USinUK
July 26th, 2011
9:27 am
Normal –
oh, yeah!
carlosgvv
July 26th, 2011
9:27 am
Paul
“just another example of exalting Corporate interests at the expense of citizen’s interests”
Yes, that is the root cause of our current crisis.
Southern Comfort
July 26th, 2011
9:28 am
Granny G
Doesn’t the added weight reduce the fuel efficiency of the Prius? I know carbon fiber is the new thing, but I don’t think you want a lightweight cowcatcher.
I think if you’re gonna move the goal posts and have fun mowing people down while you’re doing it, you gotta think BIG!!! I’m talking Ford F650 big…
http://www.marax.at/funpix/ford_f650_01.jpg
or, if you wanna bring the family along, then you can use the suv version…
http://fordpics.info/Ford/car/pictures/2011/07/268c9f573e29453d10567d00ec5cbf37.jpeg
USinUK
July 26th, 2011
9:29 am
oh, and for all you folks cheering on austerity cuts
“Gross Domestic Product (GDP) grew by 0.2% in the second quarter, according to the Office for National Statistics, down from 0.5% in the previous quarter.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14288348
USinUK
July 26th, 2011
9:29 am
(coming soon to an economy near you)
The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….
July 26th, 2011
9:29 am
Granny Godzilla
July 26th, 2011
9:09 am
You can continue repeating yourself, as you often do, but I do not need your prodding to contact my Representative. I know my Rep personally, and yes, I do call him when I feel necessary, and yes again, I called him about he debt/default issue, but that was about 2 weeks ago.
Unlike minions such as yourself, I do not respond to a partisan call from the POTUS, but congratulations, you were easily manipulated.
I’m surprised there wasn’t a message flashing under Obama’s face last night saying “if you call within the next 20 minutes you’ll receive a free Sham Wow….all you’ll do is pay shipping and handling”.
But you’re in lockstep with Obama. Well done, comrade.
Southern Comfort
July 26th, 2011
9:30 am
Bosch
I think that’s all I would have heard too.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 26th, 2011
9:33 am
I thought the tiny singing girls were now imported from Korea? Mothra has been weaponized…. Stealth Predator Mothra Drones…oh wait did I let out a secret?
Granny Godzilla
July 26th, 2011
9:33 am
Leggy
a simple yes or no would have sufficed.
But I am so proud of you for doing more than just talking….
as wrong headed as I have thought you were/are for years, I am glad you
made the effort.
Now take that minion crap and comrade crap and stuff it in your sock.
AmVet
July 26th, 2011
9:33 am
The stuck in the 1950s cons will never give up their statue as the Permanent War Party.
Their DoD contracting paymasters demand Purity Tests, and a gargantuan jobs program, and the rewards they receive are too hard to turn down.
The sickening part is this neo-con faketriotism, in lieu of actual patriotism.
Corporate criminals playing with tanks…
Adam
July 26th, 2011
9:34 am
Leg Lamp: Yeah, it’s that kind of thinking that will just blanket ignore the sentiment. Nevermind that the words “compromise”, “balanced approach”, and “stimulus” never had negative connotations until Obama used them. Jeez.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 26th, 2011
9:35 am
I know my Rep personally
Did you meet him at a “gentlemen’s club” or an airport bathroom during the family values tour or maybe it was when they were handing out that big stim checks and telling everyone about the jobs created.