Is deal imminent? Did someone blink?
Rumors are that a deal’s a cookin’.
Rumors are it’s for $3 trillion in spending cuts, with revenue increases to be adopted later. Or to be adopted now. Or maybe not adopted at all.
As the Washington Post reports, that latter possibility has Senate Democrats up in arms:
After what was described as a rambunctious hour-long meeting with Senate Democrats, Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) announced that his caucus opposes what he called the “agreement, potential agreement” because the outlines so far do not include sufficient guarantees of increased tax revenues.
“There’s no agreement. They’re working toward an agreement,” he said, adding that he received a call from a White House official during the meeting that confirmed the president had not reached a final agreement with Boehner.
The meeting included a presentation by White House Budget Director Jacob Lew, who was pilloried by Democrats who contended that Obama was giving away deep cuts to entitlements without any agreement on taxes. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), while declining to address the specifics of Lew’s talks, said she opposed the White House direction and instead would continue to support the option offered by Reid and McConnell — a backup plan to raise the debt ceiling in three phases over more than a year.
Reid said his caucus would oppose any plan that did not include increased tax revenue, questioning whether Obama had gone back on his pledge to include “balance” in the final deal.
“The president always talked about balance, that there had to be some fairness in this, that this can’t be all cuts,” Reid said. “There has to be a balance. There has to be some revenue and cuts. My caucus agrees with that. I hope that the president sticks with that. I’m confident that he will.”
I wish I could say that I was as confident as Reid claims to be.
On the other hand, Grover Norquist has made an interesting statement to the Post editorial board, stating point blank that a deal allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire would not be considered a tax increase and thus not in violation of the pledge taken by so many Republicans.
“Not continuing a tax cut is not technically a tax increase,” he said.
So does it violate the pledge?
“We wouldn’t hold it that way.”
The Post has released an audiotape of the discussion, just to ensure that there’s no doubt about what Norquist said. And there isn’t.
Later, though, Americans for Tax Reform did a moonwalk on those statements:
“ATR opposes all tax increases on the American people. Any failure to extend or make permanent the tax cuts of 2001 and 2003, in whole or in part, would clearly increase taxes on the American people. It is a violation of the Taxpayer Protection Pledge to trade temporary tax reductions for permanent tax hikes.”
So who the hell knows?
I do know I’m going fishing next week and will be totally out of touch with the real world beginning Saturday. When we come off the river July 30, I guess we’ll see what’s left standing.
– Jay Bookman
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Fred
July 21st, 2011
8:42 pm
Schrodinger’s cat: I FINALLY got curious enough about your name to google it. I read what Wiki said (lol see the humor after what I just wrote to Thulsa). I stopped shortly into it, I’m just not in the mood to be that heavy and I found it’s something that interests me.
Are you really that interested in Quantum physics? Either way, it’s a “deep” name and I applaud you for it. At first I just googled Schrodinger as I thought the cat thing was just an add on, I once was on a message board where a person went by Mel Kiper’s hair lol.
Very interesting stuff. I doubt I have the math to fully understand it all but I’m working on that.
josef
July 21st, 2011
8:42 pm
Thulsa
Maybe you should drink more….
Bruno
July 21st, 2011
8:42 pm
If we, as a country, had any brains we would be working with the feverishness of the Manhattan Project the transition to a solar/hydrogen energy policy. Instead of wasting time, money, and precious resources trying to corner a dwindling hydrocarbon energy supply.
Sooth–Based on your naive statement, I’m guessing that you never started, or even managed a business on your own. Care to confirm??
The bottom line is that burning carbon is still the cheapest way to generate power. Yeah, the same power that you use on a daily basis. Or are you still trying to claim that you are somehow above such proletariat considerations due to your new-age, enlightened views??
out of the blue
July 21st, 2011
8:44 pm
This ought to send scout and Dell into “crazy mode”
Defense officials say Pentagon chief Leon Panetta will certify that gays may serve openly in the armed services. News of his decision comes two weeks after top military leaders agreed that repealing the 17-year-old ban will not hurt military readiness.
Bruno
July 21st, 2011
8:47 pm
Very interesting stuff. I doubt I have the math to fully understand it all but I’m working on that.
Fred–If you are truly interested in understanding the concepts behind quantum physics, there are numerous “layperson’s” books out there which use no math at all. Two that come quickly to mind are “QED:The strange theory of light and matter” by Richard Feynman and “Thirty Years That Shook Physics: The Story of Quantum Theory” by George Gamow.
Though Feynman is my personal Physics hero, George Gamow is an extremely interesting individual in his own right. I’m betting that josef heard of Gamow before.
Thulsa Doom
July 21st, 2011
8:47 pm
Fred,
You whip my ass every time? Being an MD on top of everything else maybe you can prescribe yourself some powerful anti-psychotics to counter those delusions of granduer. Oooooh. Fred’s A MAN! Reminds me of mike gundy at Oklahoma state “I’m a man. Come mess with me. I’m 40. I’m a man”. You sound equally buffoonish as he did.
3 separate times you point out that I lied about something or another. Proof please? Oh? You have none? Didn’t think so.
Oh and looky here. The perfessor is criticizing the wikipedia source of proven oil reserves despite all the footnoting of sources. Did the perfessor counter with a different source proving his assertion that there are only 20 years of oil left in the middle east? Um. Nope. He shore didn’t. Why oh why am I not surprised. The perfessor has no FACTS. He simply has his opinion. Was he lying when he just threw out the 20 years worth of crude left? Or is he just stupid? Inquiring minds want to know. Personally I think its both a case of profound ignorance coupled with blatant stupidity- a dangerous combination indeed.
Hey genius I never saw your source proving that they have about 20 years of reserves left. Perhaps in your infinite wisdom you can drum up some credible sources detailing your complete and total BS. Surely you do right? Right perfesser? Still waiting on your proof genius. Still waiting…….
Fred
July 21st, 2011
8:49 pm
Bruno: I have MY own business. Have for almost 20 years. Does that make me smart lol?
On an aside, I left you a message twenty or so pages back in this thread, don’t go looking for it. The short of it is, nice 10 years after tune.
Jonix @ 8:42: LOL as to your……… I dunno what time, have you tried any German expletives?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 21st, 2011
8:49 pm
Bruno, fossil fuels may be considered cheap when looking at direct costs. When you consider indirect costs of security to this country (a failure of self-sufficiency and a risk of loss of supply), the depletion, the environmental costs, it may not be the cheapest from a strategic long term standpoint. If we subsidized alternatives to the same extent we did fossil fuels, and considering the already reduction of cost as efficiency and scale increase as well as job creation opportunity, a “space program” into alternative energy may well be cost effective and smart policy.
josef
July 21st, 2011
8:51 pm
Fred…
Ach! Warum auf Deutsch, Scheissessende Hund?
Thulsa Doom
July 21st, 2011
8:51 pm
josef,
I think I’ll start now. Trying to decide. Beer. Red wine. Or the hard stuff? To comprehend Fred tonight I better go straight to the Jack Daniels. And drink it straight also. And fast as in shots.
Thulsa Doom
July 21st, 2011
8:52 pm
Bruno,
If you had gotten here a little earlier you coulda grabbed some popcorn and watched me and Fred bit#h at each other for the last hour.
Bruno
July 21st, 2011
8:54 pm
Keep–I agree with your assessment of the “long-term”. The reality, however, is that we live now, and for now, the cheapest way to produce energy, including all the indirect costs you mentioned, is by burning carbon.
Necessity is the Mother of Invention, not the other way around.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 21st, 2011
8:54 pm
Doom, now that we have gotten past the silliness that merely looking at political donations of all employees and the company determines the political leanings of a company, to claim that Fox does not have a political idology that is neither fair nor balanced is clearly evidenced by the reporting and the insertion of opinion into supposedly “news shows.” It goes beyond the O’Reilly, Hannity claims which are political pundits. It goes to the Bill Sammons emails, the false claims and more. Deny all you want, it is a silly denial.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
July 21st, 2011
8:55 pm
“This ought to send scout and Dell into “crazy mode”
No crazy mode here jack ass. If fairy land degrades the volunteer military then the country suffers. We shall see as your bias doesn’t factor in nor does the vote pandering from politicians. Skip your stupid predictions because I’m certain you never served.
Bruno
July 21st, 2011
8:55 pm
If you had gotten here a little earlier you coulda grabbed some popcorn and watched me and Fred bit#h at each other for the last hour.
That’s ok, TD, I don’t get much enjoyment from watching people squabble. Every once in a great while I’ll watch an MMA fight, but even those have become repetitious.
josef
July 21st, 2011
8:58 pm
See if these make it….
Mutterficker
Dummatz
Warme Bruder
Arschloch
fick dich!
Fred
July 21st, 2011
8:59 pm
Bruno: I’m pretty much self taught on math, but I know enough to be able to prove the fundamental theorem of calculus. While I realize that’s only about 4th or 5th semester of good math from a good school, it’s not bad for a self taught kind of guy.
I toy with it when I have time. More of a want to know than a have to know. Besides, didn’t you know? I’m the chief high mucky muck, the professor of knowitallogy. I’m also a left wing hack, a worshipper at the alter of President Obama, and a few other things I can’t remember right now.
Now hush. I’m baout a milli second away from popping one of the main arteries in Thulsa Dooms brain and I’m trying to decide is I should continue on and do it or not. This is a pivotal moment, lives hang in the balance…….. oh the drama….. the suspense……..
Ah hell, nevermind. Thanks for the references. I wrote them down and will try to find them and read them.
Soothsayer
July 21st, 2011
9:00 pm
“Sooth–Based on your naive statement, I’m guessing that you never started, or even managed a business on your own. Care to confirm??
The bottom line is that burning carbon is still the cheapest way to generate power. Yeah, the same power that you use on a daily basis. Or are you still trying to claim that you are somehow above such proletariat considerations due to your new-age, enlightened views??”
Wow, Bruno! So much in so few words. I own my own business. Have for many years. I am a professional. I’m not going to tell you which profession.
Burning carbon is responsible for “mountain top removal” in Kentucky and West Virginia. Although you never see anything about it on the news, it involves blasting the tops off of mountains to get at the coal seam below. The “tailings” are simply bulldozed into the valleys below.
As far as oil goes, OPEC and other oil-producing countries are sucking the life-blood out of our country and have been for years.
The fact is, that while a solar plant costs very nearly the same as a fossil fuel plant, once it is up and running, there are no input costs.
But what’s really important is our transport fleet. We could literally generate enough hydrogen with electrolysis using solar power to power every car in this country and cut OPEC out of the deal.
Whether you like it or not or even agree with what I’m telling you, the outcome is inevitable. The only energy source with the possibility of supplanting fossil fuels is solar. No other form even comes close.
The real benefit is that hydrogen will burn in the car you now own (with modifications) and emits no pollutants except water (H20).
josef
July 21st, 2011
9:00 pm
FRED
We can cuss in German! Good to know!
Schrodinger's cat
July 21st, 2011
9:01 pm
Fred and Burno…Hawking’s books aren’t bad either, I don’t completely agree on all his “stuff”…the math can get crazy and beyond my instincts as well, but the thought experiments are pretty “thoughtful”…LOL
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 21st, 2011
9:02 pm
Bruno, we’ll have to disagree. I believe we are at a tipping point and a perfect opportunity for rational government to assist in the tip which will help this country generate jobs, business and reduce security costs in the long run.
Left wing management
July 21st, 2011
9:02 pm
josef:
More to the point, there’s “leck me am Arsch”
Fred
July 21st, 2011
9:02 pm
Josef, that wasn’t a fair test. You mis-spelled the word lol. Let’s try this……..
Scheisse
Fred
July 21st, 2011
9:02 pm
The auto snagger don’t know German………..
Left wing management
July 21st, 2011
9:03 pm
jeez, sorry:
should have been: “leck mich am Arsch”
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 21st, 2011
9:04 pm
josef…do you push aside a bush and were a german helmet to talk like that? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlVWArmysic
Thulsa Doom
July 21st, 2011
9:04 pm
keep up,
The same subtle injections of conservative bias that you see or perceive in the regular or hard news component of Fox news I see in the 3 network newscasts and of course on CNN and MSNBC. As for the shows such as Hannity and Oreilly there is no pretending. They are conservative shows. But at least they have liberals on there that they debate head to head. Likewise CNBC does not try to hide the fact that shows like Chris Matthews/ Rachel maddow, etc are geared towards a liberal audience.
My question is why do you guys get so rankled about the one conservative leaning outlet when there are 5 other channels of which 1 is every bit as hard left as can be and the other 4 certainly tilt left? Is a 5-1 advantage not enough for you?
Left wing management
July 21st, 2011
9:04 pm
Is deal imminent? Did someone blink?
I think we have a BLINK!
josef
July 21st, 2011
9:04 pm
Left wing…
Gotta make sure to get it in accusative, eh?
Fred
July 21st, 2011
9:05 pm
Hey Thulsa? Kisses, I REALLY want to play some COD Black ops. Catch you on the flip.
Jonix, You had the best laugh of the night with that fat drunk falling down the stairs thing. Probably of the week.
Fred
July 21st, 2011
9:07 pm
Damn LWM: The auto snagger REALLY doesn’t know German. Did you kiss your mom with that mouth?
Soothsayer
July 21st, 2011
9:07 pm
Thulsa, I looked and looked but could not find a source for the chart. However, it was part of this article which you may find interesting.
The American Empire Hangs in the Balance as the ghosts of Roman Emperors Whisper
I wouldn’t expect you to actually read it, though.
Thulsa Doom
July 21st, 2011
9:07 pm
Sooth,
Mountain top removal in so called strip mining has been featured many a times on the news. And yes. Even fox news has done reports on the harm not to mention the ugliness of removing whole mountain tops.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 21st, 2011
9:08 pm
Have a good night Fred. And beware of stairs.
md
July 21st, 2011
9:08 pm
Let’s start by collecting that 35% on the funds that won’t be repatriated. I believe that should add up to about 0.
josef
July 21st, 2011
9:08 pm
good fight…
Loved that…!
josef
July 21st, 2011
9:09 pm
FRED
Glad you didn’t take any offense!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 21st, 2011
9:09 pm
Heidi Klum is going to be so excited to read this blog.
Bruno
July 21st, 2011
9:10 pm
The short of it is, nice 10 years after tune.
Thanks, Fred. I know that that tune is a personal favorite of my buddy AmVet and I just wanted to send some good energy his way. I’m not sure if he caught the secondary message of me saying that I don’t have any answers re: saving the world, so I’m leaving it up to him.
BTW, you may want to read a little more on the significance of Schrodinger’s Cat. Without getting into too many specifics, one group of Physicists in the early 1900s, when confronted by the contradictory ideas of quantum physics, came up with what is known as the Copenhagen Interpretation. In short, they state that nothing exists until it is measured. Another even more preposterous explanation of reality is known as the Many Worlds Interpretation, in which it is postulated that an infinite number of parallel realities exist based on all the various calculated probabilities of an event occurring. All of this nonsense prompted none other than Einstein himself to declare the God doesn’t play dice with the Universe.
The moral of the story is that reality, and our ideas about reality, are two distinct entities.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01CnBGWvBpE
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
July 21st, 2011
9:10 pm
Fur Erinnerung am meine Dienftgeit
Any one of you German translators work on this one and tell me what it means in English. The Frauds will come out.
Left wing management
July 21st, 2011
9:10 pm
josef: Gotta make sure to get it in accusative, eh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpdreJ8jQjI&feature=related
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 21st, 2011
9:11 pm
Laugh In was one of the great shows of its time.
Left wing management
July 21st, 2011
9:12 pm
My advice to all Democrats and progressives is:
Do not support the weasel in ‘12.
Thulsa Doom
July 21st, 2011
9:13 pm
Sooth,
Not saying your graph wasn’t credible. Just saying I wanted to know the source. As for new oil discoveries I did read a lengthy article and did see a Fox news report from a geologist who had written extensively on oil production and he stated very plainly as I also believed that oil discoveries peaked in the 70s and have been on an downward trajectory ever since- its becoming harder and harder to find new discoveries although new technology has resulted now in getting oil in deep sea discoveries, oil shale and tar sands, etc.
And cons are not automatically anti- green. Personally I would love it if we could switch over in the next 10 years to solar powered vehicles and or electric battery cars. Nobody would love it more than me since I do a great deal of walking and running outdoors and the one single thing I disdain is car exhaust blowing by me. Even out in the country which is where I moved to.
Schrodinger's cat
July 21st, 2011
9:13 pm
,Me ;o) ” I don’t completely agree on all his “stuff”…”
err should have said “compleyely understand”…I’m not that arrogant…despite what the ex will tell ya…
Fred
July 21st, 2011
9:15 pm
How apropos Recon is posting mis-spelled nonsense in another language. Or maybe correctly spelled stuff in his own made up language………
YouMelt, ImMelt, We All Melt
July 21st, 2011
9:15 pm
Georgia is the ninth dirtiest state as measured by emissions from coal-fired power plants…
The state’s emissions contain 18.2 million pounds of toxins — mercury, metals and acid gases — 44 percent of which come from coal-fired power plants, according to the Natural Resource Defense Council report. It also put Georgia Power’s Plant Branch, in Milledgeville, at No. 10 on the list of the nation’s most polluting coal and oil fired plants.
josef
July 21st, 2011
9:15 pm
left wing….
That is TOO good! I just forewarded the link to my daughter in law! Rich…
Left wing management
July 21st, 2011
9:16 pm
Recon: “Fur Erinnerung am meine Dienftgeit”
Wow. Stumped me.
It’s clearly some really thick dialect, possibly Swabian, but honestly I can’t make heads nor tails of it.
Thulsa Doom
July 21st, 2011
9:17 pm
Fred,
We shall live to argue, rant, and rave another day. Good evening.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
July 21st, 2011
9:17 pm
Fraud or I mean Fred drink some more loud mouth because you really don’t know now do you?
josef
July 21st, 2011
9:17 pm
left wing
Some of us had the good sense/foresight not to support him in ‘08. No buyer’s remorse here!
Soothsayer
July 21st, 2011
9:17 pm
Del: It reads “In memory of my Dienftgeit” Are you sure the last word is actually a word?
Bruno
July 21st, 2011
9:18 pm
Sooth and Keep–I agree that we are closer than ever to making “clean” fuels economically viable. And I applaud it at every turn. Once their oil is no good, the Middle East may likely return to some kind of nomadic society, based on their inability to use those oil profits for something other than flying in expensive hookers from Paris. But we’re not quite there yet. I’ll pop a champagne cork with you guys when we are.
out of the blue
July 21st, 2011
9:20 pm
“Skip your stupid predictions because I’m certain you never served.”
Au Contraie Dell, I have a DD 214 that entitles me to all the benefits afforded a U.S. Service member who has honorably served. Stick that in your prediction pipe! Also, Dell just by your response you already seem to be losing it.
Fred
July 21st, 2011
9:21 pm
LWM: Recons nonsense was in memory of………….. some made up word, hell I don’t know. He can barely spell in English or convey an understandble point, should we hold him to a higher standard in German?
Note: I would really feel bad if I found out that the poor old feller has Alzheimer’s………
josef
July 21st, 2011
9:24 pm
If I had know at the time, I’d've gone for the Yiddish (in which I usually do mutter it) and wouldn’t have had the one post I’ve yet to have removed fall afoul of someone…
Ess drek und shtarbn!
Fred
July 21st, 2011
9:24 pm
Fraud or I mean Fred drink some more loud mouth because you really don’t know now do you?
No Recon, of course I don’t NO ONE knows what that drivel you posted means but you. That somehow makes me drunk or a fraud because you are stupid HOW?
Bruno
July 21st, 2011
9:24 pm
Sooth–I won’t put you on the spot regarding your profession, but is it possibly in one of the “soft sciences” like psychology?? Or do you live a dual existence–accountant by day, conspiracy theorist by night??
Fred
July 21st, 2011
9:25 pm
Why did I come back? Oh, I know, because my computer froze and I had to turn it back on. Then I had to test the internet and AJC is my home page so………….
Night all (again and for the final time lol)
http://movieclips.com/oA8br-the-sound-of-music-movie-so-long-farewell/
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
July 21st, 2011
9:26 pm
Okay no more mystery. I won this in a card game when I was 10 years old from a kid whose father was infantry during D-Day. It’s a SS bayonett and my best interpretation is “In defense of the Fatherland”.
Soothsayer
July 21st, 2011
9:27 pm
Del: The closest I can come up with is “In Memory of Broken Promises”
Geit is German for “promises.” I guessed what dienft is — is there a word such as this?
Fred
July 21st, 2011
9:28 pm
Just DAMn Bruno, you made me a liar. I was gone but the screen refreshed and your post popped up. You surpassed josef as funniest post of the week with:
Sooth–I won’t put you on the spot regarding your profession, but is it possibly in one of the “soft sciences” like psychology?? Or do you live a dual existence–accountant by day, conspiracy theorist by night??
Soothsayer
July 21st, 2011
9:28 pm
I think the translation is probably more in the line of “In Memory of My Sacred Promises.”
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
July 21st, 2011
9:29 pm
Well now Fraud is really in the loud mouth tonight. Once again Fraud what was your unit and MOS when you made combat jumps on to three continents?
md
July 21st, 2011
9:31 pm
Hell…..I have my own business……that isn’t the same as running one with tons of employees where every decision you make impacts your family and the family of every employee.
Real estate agents are business owners……not the same thing.
Soothsayer
July 21st, 2011
9:31 pm
No, Bruno, I’m a conspiracy theorist 24 hours a day!
Bruno
July 21st, 2011
9:32 pm
I’m sure that my outlook won’t enamor me to josef, but I have little fascination with linguistic. 500 ways to say the same thing. As for me, I’m interested in the underlying message, not so much the 500 different ways to express it. Of course, sometimes looking up root words can inform on the underlying meaning. E.g. the word “satisfy” comes from the Latin Satio, which refers to hunger.
Left wing management
July 21st, 2011
9:34 pm
Fred: “LWM: Recons nonsense was in memory of………….. some made up word, hell I don’t know. He can barely spell in English or convey an understandble point, should we hold him to a higher standard in German?”
I thought that too but I did find some hits in Google, suggesting it indeed existed in some dialect or other.
Left wing management
July 21st, 2011
9:35 pm
josef, thanks. I know a little bit about Mozart, not a whole lot, but the whole story of the Leck mich am Arsch was completely new to me. But completely believable. Hilarious!
Thulsa Doom
July 21st, 2011
9:36 pm
Recon,
That’s pretty cool. I would love to have a SS bayonet like that- a piece of some real history there. My dad brought back on old German ww 2 army helmet but I don’t remember what happened to it.
Soothsayer
July 21st, 2011
9:37 pm
Well, I guess I’m outta here. I just can’t wait for the new Pee-wee Herman movie to come out! I know everyone of you is looking forward to it same as me.
AmVet
July 21st, 2011
9:37 pm
B, I sent those good vibes back your way.
In case you missed it…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPLi0dq0tOk
out of the blue
July 21st, 2011
9:38 pm
“Well now Fraud is really in the loud mouth tonight. Once again Fraud what was your unit and MOS when you made combat jumps on to three continents?
I assume your comment is directed towards me…..Well, I never jumped out of a perfectly good airplane! 3 continents you say? Now what would those be?
HavocMaker
July 21st, 2011
9:39 pm
Jay -
Whatever you do on your vacation. Take a hat, wear your sunscreen, and DRINK LOTS OF FLUIDS!!
Enjoy and catch a big one. We will be here when you get back.
HM.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 21st, 2011
9:39 pm
Sooth…Pee Wee will not be permitted to make a new movie, so says the guys in the basement of the Alamo…but dont tell anyone. The whole movie industry is controlled from the basement.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
July 21st, 2011
9:40 pm
And Left wing management makes up everything she posts. Nothing new here.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 21st, 2011
9:40 pm
Recon, did you have a chute when you jumped and how often did you land on your head
josef
July 21st, 2011
9:43 pm
leftwing, sooth
I’m guessing it’s a typo.. maybe Dienstheit… service…?
Bruno
July 21st, 2011
9:44 pm
B, I sent those good vibes back your way.
Hey, Bro. I did catch it, thanks. Some great guitar work by Alvin Lee, as usual.
Don’t tell @@ lest she accuse me of touting my conquests, but I did manage to have lunch with the 20 year old I’m smitten with. Not only is she extremely beautiful, but she’s smart and classy too. I’m sure I’m dreaming to believe that she might be interested in an old fart like me, but I’m betting on the fact that she’s rapidly tiring of the 20-something guys she’s been hanging around with.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
July 21st, 2011
9:46 pm
“Recon, did you have a chute when you jumped and how often did you land on your head :”
LOL
Never landed on my head but sure had some close calls. Maybe I did take some head shots though. ISFH
josef
July 21st, 2011
9:47 pm
leftwing…
I don’t have access to the old German font, but if you write it out in it, it does LOOK like it ought to be transliterated as such…just a guess…
Bruno
July 21st, 2011
9:48 pm
BTW, Am, she’s also white, but I’m trying not to hold that against her.
Bruno
July 21st, 2011
9:50 pm
josef–You seem to be ignoring me tonight, but I was curious to know more about the Rules of Tribalism. One of the main ones seems to be that no criticism of a tribe can come from outside of the group. Jay seems to subscribe to that theory as well……
josef
July 21st, 2011
9:54 pm
leftwing
This is it…it should be Dienstzeit….time in service…
BRUNO
I’m not ignoring you. But I am under direct orders from two people whose I pay serious attention to that I am supposed to be nice to you! I don’t cross either of them lightly…
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
July 21st, 2011
9:55 pm
Oh well I’m putting the German Bayonet back in the box of memories. I only took it out because of the German language references. It’s been 15 years since the last time. I have many others from my time but I won’t bore you with them. Memories are personal. Taps.
Bruno
July 21st, 2011
9:57 pm
josef @ 9:54–I must have missed something then, unless the two people you are referring to are non-bloggers.
But don’t hold back, my Brother. If I have crossed any lines with you, you’re welcome to give me all the sh*t I deserve!! What else are Brothers for??
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
July 21st, 2011
10:00 pm
Out of the Blue., you’re right I think he said six different continents.
josef
July 21st, 2011
10:00 pm
BRUNO
It wasn’t on the blog…this, though, is really not the place for it…I would have SE’d it, but I’m still trying to make nice!
AmVet
July 21st, 2011
10:01 pm
B, you truly are an EOL – Equal Opportunity Lover.
I’ve always been strictly into white girls, but I’m not saying you aren’t smarter!
TR does a fantastic cover of this gem on his latest tour, but I just adore this session version…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K43jd0KuJ1k
md
July 21st, 2011
10:05 pm
“One of the main ones seems to be that no criticism of a tribe can come from outside of the group.”
I have to keep re-learning that one every time I say something not so nice about the mom-in-law, even if I’m just repeating what the wife just said.
Bruno
July 21st, 2011
10:12 pm
josef–SE.
Left wing management
July 21st, 2011
10:13 pm
If you’re a progressive, don’t get out the vote for the weasel in ‘12.
Sit on your couch with a huge bowl of popcorn and watch the weasel go down to Romney.
Bruno
July 21st, 2011
10:14 pm
md–LOL @ your 10:05. I actually got along well with my MIL, though I did occasionally point out to my ex some of the bad qualities she inherited from her. Never a smart move, of course. But then again, I don’t always make the smartest moves……
Left wing management
July 21st, 2011
10:15 pm
josef: “This is it…it should be Dienstzeit….time in service…”
Well done! You got it.
La'Trice
July 21st, 2011
10:17 pm
A good place to begin the cessation of insane federal spending would be the $47 million promised to Atlanta to help finance the trolley to nowhere. People will say, well it’s ONLY $47 million, a drop in the bucket. But that is the very kind of discretionary spending that has to be cut so the United States has enough money for the essential things – debt service, Medicare, social security, defense, infrastructure.
And it would also help if we stopped spending money we don’t have to “nation build” every third world country that comes begging.
Bruno
July 21st, 2011
10:20 pm
Am @ 10:01–Not sure if you remembered, but the entire “I Want You” album is one of my personal favorites. Marvin Gaye at his peak:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH-uW-LxNpE
Mr_B
July 21st, 2011
10:20 pm
“Fur Erinnerung am meine Dienftgeit” Lools to me like the “F” in dienftgeit should actually be a long “s” and maybe the g should be an “h”. Fur (umlaut U)Einnerung und meine Diensstheit.
1811/0311
July 21st, 2011
10:24 pm
THE GREEN THING !
“In the line at the store, the cashier told an older woman that she should bring her own grocery bags because plastic bags weren’t good for the environment.
The woman apologized to him and explained, “We didn’t have the green thing back in my day.”
The clerk responded, “That’s our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment.”
He was right — our generation didn’t have the green thing in its day.
Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So they really were recycled.
But we didn’t have the green thing back in our day.
We walked up stairs, because we didn’t have an escalator in every store and office building. We walked to the grocery store and didn’t climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks.
But she was right. We didn’t have the green thing in our day.
Back then, we washed the baby’s diapers because we didn’t have the throw-away kind. We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy gobbling machine burning up 220 volts — wind and solar power really did dry the clothes. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing. But that old lady is right; we didn’t have the green thing back in our day.
Back then, we had one TV, or radio, in the house — not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief (remember them?), not a screen the size of the state of Montana.
In the kitchen, we blended and stirred by hand because we didn’t have electric machines to do everything for us.
When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used a wadded up old newspaper to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap.
Back then, we didn’t fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power. We exercised by working so we didn’t need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity.
But she’s right; we didn’t have the green thing back then.
We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water.
We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull.
But we didn’t have the green thing back then.
Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service.
We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn’t need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 2,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest pizza joint.
But isn’t it sad the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn’t have the green thing back then?”
P.S.
I didn’t have air conditioning until I was a senior in high school and then it was just one window unit in the dining room. I never had a car with air conditioning until I bought a new 1976 Oldsmobile Cutlass.
It was a “green thing” ………………………
Mr_B
July 21st, 2011
10:25 pm
jonix: you’re dead on. I’d forgotten that dienst= service.Sheissen!