Herman Cain: Mosque infringes on his religious liberty
From the Daily News Journal in Murfreesboro, Tenn.:
MURFREESBORO — Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Thursday an effort by local Muslims to build a large mosque here is an attempt to “sneak” Shariah law into the fabric of the U.S. legal system.
“I think it is an infringement and abuse of our freedom of religion, and I don’t agree with what’s happening here because this isn’t an innocent mosque,” Cain told reporters after speaking to a crowd of hundreds on the Murfreesboro Public Square.
“This is another way to sneak Shariah law into our laws, and I absolutely object to that,” Cain said.
Imagine that: Building a mosque in Tennessee infringes on Cain’s freedom of religion and is an attempt to sneak Sharia law into American law.
What mind-numbing, head-shaking stupidity.
More importantly, it’s dangerous, because it legitimizes anti-Islamic bigotry in a community that is already struggling to find room in its conscience to allow Muslim neighbors the freedom to worship as their faith demands.
Cain is no better than a David Duke or Lester Maddox.
– Jay Bookman
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jewcowboy
July 15th, 2011
2:40 pm
Not to mention his anti-gay bigotry…
jewcowboy
July 15th, 2011
2:44 pm
I thought those of the Orange Pekoe Brigade pledged to focus only on economic issues and to protect state rights…whatever happened to that?
Joe Cool~PRESIDENT Obama Tells CONs,"Don't Call My Bluff BI+CHES"
July 15th, 2011
2:44 pm
Hes a joke! Nuff Said!
Sharia Law
July 15th, 2011
2:44 pm
Herman Cain, I am coming for your soul.
jewcowboy
July 15th, 2011
2:46 pm
“I am coming for your soul.”
I think it was already sold…for a large with extra cheese and sausage cut into squares.
Granny Godzilla
July 15th, 2011
2:46 pm
Can’t hear him…..still jammin to his rockin’ new album.
DebbieDoRight
July 15th, 2011
2:49 pm
Well no one said Cain was SMART — just that he was the “token” for the republican party.
RF
July 15th, 2011
2:50 pm
Herman Cain is as moronic as Bachmann and wouldn’t have even been given the mention of his name until the social conservatives rose up in the anti-Obama movement. We’ve been inundated by anti-muslim, anti-gay, anti-everything types who use fear to get people stirred up. It’s sad that a community has embraced the rights of their citizens and outsiders have to try to dictate their values.
jewcowboy
July 15th, 2011
2:51 pm
Political Correction: Let me ask you, the Obama administration, Eric Holder’s DOJ, is going after public schools – he’s suing public schools, for – there was a case where he’s suing a public school for releasing a Muslim woman, letting her go because she wanted to go on a pilgrimage. Do you think that’s political, what they’re doing, or do you think that’s the job of the federal DOJ?
Herman Cain: That’s political…purely political is what that is. I would rather the DOJ enforce the Defense Of Marriage Act than worry about whether a lady was let go because she wanted to take off an inordinate amount of time. Rules are rules in the workplace. The last time I checked, if you work for somebody, you work for an institution, and they’ve got work rules, you don’t go take the job and then you want to change the rules later because of your religion. Go work somewhere else.
http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201103280005
Now, I wonder how he would feel if that was a Baptist woman who wanted to go on a mission? Does his pursuit of the almighty dollar trump his passion for the Almighty? And if that is the case, doesn’t that de-legitimize (as if they were legitimate to begin with) his anti-gay bigotry based on his religious beliefs?
Schrodinger's cat
July 15th, 2011
2:51 pm
What if he’s right?
Straw Man
July 15th, 2011
2:51 pm
“Cain is no better than a David Duke or Lester Maddox.”
Look like you nailed it on the head, DR – a column on Cain. Out of curiosity, Jay: have you ever read the Koran?
Granny Godzilla
July 15th, 2011
2:54 pm
Let me turn down the volume a moment…..
I won’t worry about this, he’ll get hammer justifiably for this incredibly stupid comment and sooner or later deny ever having said it.
(see previous remarks re:muslims and subsequent walk backs)
Now crank up the volume, his version of “This is the Day” makes me wanna shake my tambourine.
Stan
July 15th, 2011
2:54 pm
Of the 10 recent blog posts by Jay, not 1 is promoting Democrat’s agenda. All are nothing more than picking apart those he views as the enemy. Interesting.
Sharia Law
July 15th, 2011
2:54 pm
“What if he’s right?”
What if the moon was really made of green cheese?
Jay
July 15th, 2011
2:55 pm
So Straw Man, your implication is that anti-Muslim bigotry is justified?
You think they should not be allowed to build a mosque because it might infringe on YOUR religious liberty to co-exist only with those religions of which you approve?
Step up and tell the truth.
Adam
July 15th, 2011
2:55 pm
Well, to be fair, what do you expect from a guy who openly talks about how much he fears Muslims?
Dave R.
July 15th, 2011
2:55 pm
I own you Bookman!
“Dave R.
July 15th, 2011
12:33 am
So, Bruno.
What should we get Jay to post about later today?
I’m thinking a Herman Cain column as well as one on the obligatory debt “crisis”. How about you?”
I can read you like a cheap novel . . .
ByteMe
July 15th, 2011
2:56 pm
He does seem consistent. Wrong on so many levels… but consistent.
Bruno
July 15th, 2011
2:57 pm
Dave R—You definitely are the MAN!! Herman Cain article delivered right on cue!!!
oldguy
July 15th, 2011
2:57 pm
Psssss Jay,
Cain is black !!!
Are you racist ???
You must be if you attack a black man….. How many times did I hear that just 3 years ago ???
DW
July 15th, 2011
2:57 pm
What a clown!
getalife
July 15th, 2011
2:57 pm
“What mind-numbing, head-shaking stupidity.”
“Cain is no better than a David Duke or Lester Maddox”
He is Dave’s choice.
Straw Man
July 15th, 2011
2:59 pm
“Of the 10 recent blog posts by Jay, not 1 is promoting Democrat’s agenda. All are nothing more than picking apart those he views as the enemy. Interesting.”
This should not surprise. It is a whole lot easier to criticize someone’s ideas or actions than it is to propose them or put them into action. That’s why we are all here, LOL
jewcowboy
July 15th, 2011
3:00 pm
Schrodinger’s cat,
“What if he’s right?”
Too late. Our system of justice is based on English Common Law which is based on…wait for it…Islamic Law.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/36387774/The-Islamic-Origins-of-the-Common-Law-John-A-Makdisi
Southern Comfort
July 15th, 2011
3:01 pm
Constitution of the United States of America
[...]
Article VI – Debts, Supremacy, Oaths
All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
[...]
Amendment 1 – Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
I don’t think anything else has to be said about this topic.
jewcowboy
July 15th, 2011
3:01 pm
oldguy,
“How many times did I hear that just 3 years ago ???”
What, in your own mind?
ty webb
July 15th, 2011
3:01 pm
“What should we get Jay to post about later today?”
I don’t know, but I wouldn’t mind another tearjerker regarding the mere passing of a bill aimed at illegal immigration. Something similar to jay’s man on the street interview with the restauranteer who can’t afford anything above the current slave labor he’s paying, or one about all those rotting crops…okay…now I’m getting a little choked up just thinking about it.
oldguy
July 15th, 2011
3:02 pm
I think its great they are going to build a Masque there……Just as long as someone builds a gay biker bar next to it!!
ByteMe
July 15th, 2011
3:02 pm
What, in your own mind?
Nah, in response to his racist posts about Obama and Kenya.
ByteMe
July 15th, 2011
3:03 pm
Later today is the Friday Music Club!
Straw Man
July 15th, 2011
3:03 pm
“So Straw Man, your implication is that anti-Muslim bigotry is justified?
You think they should not be allowed to build a mosque because it might infringe on YOUR religious liberty to co-exist only with those religions of which you approve?
Step up and tell the truth.”
I’m sorry, I didn’t see an answer to my question in all of that. It was an inartful dodge. And you are sometimes very quick to jump to conclusions (as I guess we all are, LOL). So please practice what you preach; step up and tell the truth.
ByteMe
July 15th, 2011
3:04 pm
Just as long as someone builds a gay biker bar next to it!!
Not that there’s anything wrong with that, huh oldguy?
Bruno
July 15th, 2011
3:04 pm
Since you are far more politically astute than I am, Dave, is there ANYONE left on the Republican bench who might have a legitimate shot to replace Romney as the front runner?? For both political and persoanl reasons, I am more than underwhelmed by Romney’s candidacy. I hate to fall back on the simplistic ABO strategy……..Maybe with some more on-the-job training, Obama may do a better job if he gets elected to a second term.
oldguy
July 15th, 2011
3:05 pm
right here, over and over (reference getalife and many others).
If you are anti-Obozo then you are bound to be racist….get with the program!!
Schrodinger's cat
July 15th, 2011
3:05 pm
Jay – Didn’t you tell me yesterday that Perry’s church picnic sought to “marginalize” large numbers of American citizens? Yet you defend the building of a mosque? Islam doesn’t seek to marginalize non-Muslums?
As Straw Man asks…have you ever read the Koran?
Jay
July 15th, 2011
3:05 pm
It’s not a dodge at all, Straw Man. I’m cutting right to the heart of your question. It was an attempt to imply that such bigotry is justified, was it not?
Please. Correct me if I’m wrong.
ByteMe
July 15th, 2011
3:07 pm
Islam doesn’t seek to marginalize non-Muslums?
No more than Christianity actively does in this country.
oldguy
July 15th, 2011
3:07 pm
I’ll fire up my Harley right now!!!
p.s. I assume they will allow non-gays in for a beer also??
Meathead
July 15th, 2011
3:07 pm
Mr. Cain – He graduated from Morehouse College in 1967 with a Bachelor of Arts degree in mathematics and received a Master of Science degree in computer science from Purdue University
Jay
July 15th, 2011
3:08 pm
You either misremember or mislead, Cat.
I made it quite clear that the people putting together that rally had every right to do so, and I wished them good luck in their endeavor. Just because I disagree with their theology doesn’t give me the right to try to stop them from worshipping as they wish.
Would you care to disagree?
Doggone/GA
July 15th, 2011
3:08 pm
ByteMe – I would amend that to “No more than “Christians” actively do in this country”
Christianity as a religious philosophy is actually very inclusive.
jewcowboy
July 15th, 2011
3:08 pm
oldguy,
And if you refer to Obama as “Obozo” you are are bound to dismissed as infantile. But I guess your statement proves that it is true, we start life in diapers and drooling and that is the way we leave life.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 15th, 2011
3:09 pm
Building a mosque is sneaking in Sharia law….. I’m notifying the ABA! Red alert!
Cain is trying to out do Bachmann on the crazy
ByteMe
July 15th, 2011
3:10 pm
ByteMe – I would amend that to “No more than “Christians” actively do in this country”
I absolutely agree and realized it after I re-read what I wrote. My bad. It’s not Christianity or Islam that’s the problem. It’s the crazy people who think it’s their way or no way.
Straw Man
July 15th, 2011
3:10 pm
“Please. Correct me if I’m wrong.”
I will once you answer my question, but I’ll give you a hint: I have no problem with Muslims practicing their religion, given…(and I’ll tell you the rest, once you answer my question).
Left wing management
July 15th, 2011
3:11 pm
Funny, just passed Murfreesboro today on the way here from Nashville, where this morning there were morning talkers discussing how it was a toss up between supporting Cain or Bachmann. Amazing what a sneering lot these right wingers are. But they did manage to carry the entire Obama press conference live this morning and refrained from snide commentary, so I’ll credit them for that at least.
In general though, being back here for the first time in a while I’m always amazed again at the almost complete stranglehold that the right wing propaganda has on the airwaves in this area.
jewcowboy
July 15th, 2011
3:11 pm
Doggone/GA,
“Christianity as a religious philosophy is actually very inclusive.”
However in practice….
DebbieDoRight
July 15th, 2011
3:11 pm
…have you ever read the Koran?
Have you read the Old Testament? It’s downright scarey…….as well as anti-gentile.
Tundra Dude
July 15th, 2011
3:11 pm
Herman Cain: Mosque infringes on his religious liberty
Maybe he’s getting desperate, feeling dissed by the Koch bros. He did so well at their auditions, but
now I heard they’re supporting Dumber (Bachmann) over Dumb.
Few of his supporters know of his association with Aquila corp (board member) . An Enron-like trading company that shafted thousands of workers out of their pension investments.
ByteMe
July 15th, 2011
3:12 pm
New political spectrum to consider:
crazy crazy
The problem is that crazy left and crazy right have the same moniker, which makes it hard to tell the difference.