
Michele Bachmann, in a dead heat with Mitt Romney in Iowa in the latest Des Moines Register poll, got some more good news from Gallup today.
Under the headline “Bachmann in Strong Position as She Enters 2012 Race,” Gallup reports that the Minnesota congresswoman “enters the race with 69% name recognition among Republicans and ties for the highest Positive Intensity Score of any GOP candidate Gallup tracks.”

(Gallup defines “positive intensity” as the percentage of those who strongly favor the candidate minus the percentage that strongly opposes him or her.)
Note that Newt Gingrich, one of the best known of the GOP candidates, has a positive intensity rating of 2 among his fellow Republicans. And Tim Pawlenty is turning out to be the kind of man who can’t excite anyone but his dog back home, if he has one. With a PIR of 8, he trails even Rick Santorum. (In GOP presidential politics, Santorum serves as the equivalent of baseball’s Mario Mendoza.)
Pawlenty is counting on performing well in Iowa, but after weeks of working the state, he’s still at just 6 percent in the Register poll. It ain’t happening for TPaw.
According to a Register analysis of its poll:
Bachmann, 55, rates the strongest with very conservative caucusgoers, along with those who are well-educated and ages 45 to 64.
More respondents pick her as their second choice, 18 percent, than name Romney, 10 percent.
“Michele Bachmann has always looked like a fit for Iowa on paper, and the debate likely helped solidify her standing,” pollster J. Ann Selzer said. “This poll confirms she has potential to do very well here.”
Me, I’m not buying it. I’ll admit to being surprised by the degree of discipline that Bachmann has demonstrated to date, but it won’t last. In the harsh glare of the national spotlight, wackiness will out itself in time.
As Ron Carey, a former chief of staff for Bachmann and now a Pawlenty backer, writes in the Register:
“The Bachmann campaign and congressional offices I inherited were wildly out of control. Stacks upon stacks of unopened contributions filled the campaign office while thousands of communications from citizens waited for an answer. If she is unable, or unwilling, to handle the basic duties of a campaign or congressional office, how could she possibly manage the magnitude of the presidency?”
For the time being, people are enamored of Bachmann because she is saying things they like to hear (the same trend drove the early support for Herman Cain.) But like Cain, she is not someone to be taken seriously as a potential occupant of the White House.
– Jay Bookman
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Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
3:17 pm
If Nancy Pelosi can be the House Speaker and be second in line to take over the presidency, Michelle Bachmann is more than just qualified.
Adam
June 28th, 2011
3:25 pm
Recon: Michele Bachmann believes she is on a holy mission from God. She is crazy. Nancy Pelosi is NOT.
Bosch
June 28th, 2011
3:27 pm
“and be second in line to take over the presidency”
Del is having an Alexander Haig moment.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
3:28 pm
Adam, you mean you’ve never noticed that wild eyed look on Pelosi’s face. Why, she’s nuttier than a fruit cake. Remember “we have to pass the law to find out what’s in it.”
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
3:29 pm
No, Adam, they are BOTH crazy.
It’s just that Bachmann is bat-sh*t crazy.
Jay, I believe that she’s been extremely well-coached thus far, and more importantly, has the ability to be coachable.
But it doesn’t make her any less crazy.
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
3:32 pm
“But like Cain, she is not someone to be taken seriously as a potential occupant of the White House.”
Says the opinion columnist who misses the point that Mr. Cain consistently polls #3 on average.
Adam
June 28th, 2011
3:32 pm
In the harsh glare of the national spotlight, wackiness will out itself in time.
Oh yes, it will be outed. But it works for her. Detractors get lambasted and she gets the sympathy vote as a result. Poor, poor Bachmann being picked on by all those elites!
But like Cain, she is not someone to be taken seriously as a potential occupant of the White House.
Disagree here. I think she is just crazy enough to get the nomination in the primaries in enough places to make her a serious contender. After that, all it takes is a Karl Rove-like set of maneuvers to dupe the American public into believing that The Chosen One has finally arrived, and that anything people might say about her like she’s not a serious candidate, or that she is crazy, is really just the elites or the liberals or some enemy out to stop God’s mission. Sadly, this still speaks well to too much of the American public.
thomas
June 28th, 2011
3:33 pm
Jay,
why do you feel it will not last?
What specific reasons? Other than you disagree with her?
stands for decibels
June 28th, 2011
3:33 pm
She is not someone to be taken seriously as a potential occupant of the White House.
Agreed, but I won’t be surprised if she mounts a successful enough campaign to wind up being Mitt’s bit of street cred, at the bottom of his ticket.
Adam
June 28th, 2011
3:34 pm
Recon: Remember “we have to pass the law to find out what’s in it.”
Debunked. And it’s not the crazy “look” I’m worried about, but actual crazy. I do not believe Pelosi is crazy and happen to agree with much of what she works toward and has worked toward in the House.
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
3:34 pm
Adam, House members typically fade after the first few primary states.
She will, too.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
3:35 pm
Y’all heard it here first and I’m predicting a Romney, Bachmann ticket that will win by a land slide.
Adam
June 28th, 2011
3:35 pm
thomas: Other than you disagree with her?
There’s that tired “liberals think anyone who disagrees with them is _____” nonsense again…
Adam
June 28th, 2011
3:36 pm
Dave R @ 3:34: No argument there…
Bosch
June 28th, 2011
3:36 pm
“Remember “we have to pass the law to find out what’s in it.””
No, because Pelosi never said that. Strike two.
Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
3:37 pm
One word: flake-gate.
Mighty Righty
June 28th, 2011
3:38 pm
It is easy to tell who the looney left fears. They immediately use personal attacks. Anyone who calls her crazy is in need of ego stimulation. You folks are a bunch of losers. The moocher class just hates someone smarter than they.
Adam
June 28th, 2011
3:38 pm
Bosch: In all fairness, how is that strike two?
Bosch
June 28th, 2011
3:39 pm
Adam,
See Del’s “second in line” goof.
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
3:39 pm
Jay, that reference to the Mendoza Line is certainly an important public service. NO respectable baseball fan should be ignorant of the meaning of that phrase.
Politifact checked out 26 of Ms. Bachmann’s statements and found 18 to be false and another 6 to be only partially true.
Not sure if this is one of them, but read this for some Grade A Bachmann bullsh*t…
“If you threw a barbecue yesterday for the Memorial weekend, it was 29 percent more expensive than last year because Barack Obama’s policies have led to groceries going up 29 percent,” she said.”
The REAL number?
Read the article to find out and why the woman was SO far off…
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jun/27/michele-bachmann/michele-bachmann-says-food-prices-barbecues-29-per/
The woman has a huge veracity problem…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMXGSP_nPyY
Jay
June 28th, 2011
3:39 pm
“It is easy to tell who the looney left fears. They immediately use personal attacks.”
U gotta love it.
Adam
June 28th, 2011
3:40 pm
Mighty Righty: It is easy to tell who the looney left fears.
ANOTHER tired argument. Wow guys keep em comin….
Sadly, I DO fear Bachmann as an elected official. Because she is a loony God fearing zealot who wants to impose her religion on the populace, and seems to get voted in many many times because of how well she plays the game. She is a force to be reckoned with.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
3:40 pm
“No, because Pelosi never said that. Strike two.”
Bosch don’t allow your emotions to control you. Go play with your puppies.
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
3:40 pm
““Remember “we have to pass the law to find out what’s in it.””
No, because Pelosi never said that. Strike two.”
How can you say that when there is video of her saying that, Bosch?
Granny Godzilla
June 28th, 2011
3:40 pm
I loved John Wayne Gacy in McClintock and In Harms Way.
Oh and I see some of Herman Cain’s staff have resigned.
Bosch
June 28th, 2011
3:40 pm
Jay,
Yeah, it’s the cons obsession with “fear.”
Bachmann Who?
June 28th, 2011
3:41 pm
Controversial Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) said this weekend that she wants residents of her state “armed and dangerous” over President Barack Obama’s plan to reduce global warming “because we need to fight back.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/23/michele-bachmann-i-want-p_n_178156.html
Everytime she opens her mouth, I close my eyes!!!! A disaster and a joke. She and Palin can be defined as “Extremist”.
Jay
June 28th, 2011
3:41 pm
You know what being No. 3 gets you, Dave R?
thomas
June 28th, 2011
3:41 pm
Adam
June 28th, 2011
3:35 pm
No, he didn’t give any specifics as to what or why?
Was simply eliminating an option.
But we see that you seem to have telepathic abilities to see what it is I am thinking and even better, what it is I truely mean when i ask something?
The more you post the more i’m wondering if you are for real, or just trying to get reactions?
Mighty Righty
June 28th, 2011
3:41 pm
Bosch
June 28th, 2011
3:36 pm
Nancy Pelosi on Health Care: “We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.”
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
3:42 pm
“Oh and I see some of Herman Cain’s staff have resigned.”
And have already been replaced.
Bosch
June 28th, 2011
3:42 pm
Dave R.,
That video that people posted at the time that shows her saying nothing of the sort? That video that we’ve gone over and over here? That one?
Granny Godzilla
June 28th, 2011
3:43 pm
Dave R
Again somebody has to explain to you….
the bill was going to the senate
the senate can change the bill
when asked what we would be seeing from the senate she said
it would have to pass for us to know.
NOW what that means is she didn’t know what the senate would do the bill the house sent to her.
Home Run in kitten heels!
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
3:43 pm
“They immediately use personal attacks.
The moocher class just hates someone smarter than they.”
To JB’s point, you can’t make up stuff this good. (or at least I can’t!)
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
3:44 pm
“You know what being No. 3 gets you, Dave R?”
Ahead of No.’s 4-5-6-7 and 8?
And much closer to being No. 1 or 2.
Any more questions, Jay?
Bosch
June 28th, 2011
3:44 pm
MR,
And is that what Del posted? No.
RedEye
June 28th, 2011
3:44 pm
Bachmann Who?,
HuffingtonPost, seriously? That’s like getting your news from Jay
thomas
June 28th, 2011
3:44 pm
Bosch
June 28th, 2011
3:36 pm
wasn’t it…
?we have to pass the law so YOU can see whats in it”?
After an entire campaign season talking about transparncy too. Thats a trustworthy lady there i tell ya!
Peadawg
June 28th, 2011
3:45 pm
“Me, I’m not buying it. I’ll admit to being surprised by the degree of discipline that Bachmann has demonstrated to date, but it won’t last. In the harsh glare of the national spotlight, wackiness will out itself in time.”
Well, good afternoon, Seabiscuit! Ridgewood Ranch is looking for you.
Adam
June 28th, 2011
3:45 pm
You know what being No. 3 gets you, Dave R?
The bronze?
getalife
June 28th, 2011
3:45 pm
Michelle Bachmann?
Seriously.
Talk about dumbed down.
More gaffes than palin.
cons are hilarious
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
3:45 pm
Bosch, may need a civics class.
Jay
June 28th, 2011
3:46 pm
It gets you nada, Dave R.
Cain has already peaked.
Bosch
June 28th, 2011
3:46 pm
thomas,
Is that what Del posted? No. And Del, I know enough about civics that the VP is second in line to take over the Presidency, not the SofH.
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
3:47 pm
Sorry, Granny, but here’s the EXACT quote:
“Pelosi: “We Have to Pass the Bill So That You Can Find Out What Is In It”.
We denotes House, NOT Senate.
Nice try, though.
Bosch
June 28th, 2011
3:47 pm
and thomas, see Mrs. G’s post. I really can’t believe the cons still bring that up. how embarrassing for you guys if that’s what you cling to.
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
3:47 pm
I know this is tough love for you Minneloon lovers, but you’ll be better people for it.
At one point in the interview, Bachmann criticized President Obama’s energy policy, or what she called the lack thereof.
“It’s ironic and sad that the president released all of the oil from the Strategic Oil Reserve because the president doesn’t have an energy policy,” she said.
Actually, the government only released 30 million barrels out of a total of 727 million barrels, or about 4 percent. So we rated that False.
Schieffer also asked her about a previous misstatement on oil, that the Obama administration has only issued one new drilling permit in all the time Obama has been in office. We rated that Pants on Fire, the actual number is well over 200.
Peadawg
June 28th, 2011
3:48 pm
“More gaffes than palin.” – But not as many as your precious Obama.
Does he still see those fallen heroes in the audience?
Bosch
June 28th, 2011
3:48 pm
Dave R.,
Shame on you — I expect more from you, you are usually good at context and stuff.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
3:48 pm
Bosch, no the VP is next in line. The Speaker is second.
thomas
June 28th, 2011
3:50 pm
Can’t seem to find the poll numbers anywhere.
Maybe one of you can help me…
What was Barack Obama polling out as in the primary in June of 2007?
Was he in 1st, 2nd or the dreaded 3rd?
getalife
June 28th, 2011
3:50 pm
Pea,
Yeah, he is not perfect or super man.
Lower your expectations because he is human.
Bosch
June 28th, 2011
3:50 pm
Del,
Oh, i see what you are saying — my bad.
Peadawg
June 28th, 2011
3:51 pm
“Yeah, he is not perfect or super man.
Lower your expectations because he is human.”
So are you saying gaffs are OKIYAD?
Granny Godzilla
June 28th, 2011
3:52 pm
Dave
We could also denote Congress as a whole right?
And it would be appropriate considering the question was being asked of her after the bill went to the Senate.
Mine wasn’t just a nice try – it’s correct.
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
3:52 pm
Recon — “Y’all heard it here first and I’m predicting a Romney, Bachmann ticket that will win by a land slide.”
Not first from you; I said here over a week ago that if Romney or Pawlenty won the nomination, then Palin of Bachmann stood to be the veep choice.
With regard to a landslide, though, ain’t gonna happen. The right wing of the GOP doesn’t like Romney and moderates are going to be turned off by Bachmann. Romney is going to have to shift rightward to get the nomination and a Palin/Bachmann running mate will prevent him from pivoting back to the center.
josef
June 28th, 2011
3:52 pm
I was watching the talking heads last p.m. and there was Anderson Cooper and, King and What’s Her Name I can’t remember talking about Bachmann in serious terms, d*mn near fawning over her. That’s scarey. I hope Jay’s right and I hope what he charitably calls “wackiness” will out itself. But I’m not so sure. She can come across as ever so thoughtful, sane, and whathaveyou and lull you into a state of “she’s not that loony…” Well, she is, imho, and loony in a dangerous fashion.
Pelosi? She’s not crazy, just mean as a snake.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
June 28th, 2011
3:52 pm
Well, what’s wrong with being crazy? I mean, Dave R.’s ready to write Bachmann off just because of that. I don’t know about you, but I’m tired of these politicans that act like thinking machines. I want a little nuttiness. I wouldn’t mind reading a story about how President Bachmann forgot to put on clothes before coming downstairs and showed up for a meeting buck-nekkid.
So she gets her history mixed up. Well, back there in my senior year in the 5th grade, I did too. There’s only so much a person can remember right. It all gets mixed up after awhile. That’s why you get all that money to hire smart people as advisers.
Besides, she’s Tea Party thru and thru. If I decide not to run I’ll vote for her. She beleives like I do. I want all the spending cut. Just as long as it’s not spending that helps me.
Have a good p.m. everybody.
Recent Grad
June 28th, 2011
3:53 pm
Cythia: George Bush is a demon. Barack Obama is a saint.
Kyle: “Whatevah! Republicans are cool. Democrats drool.”
Jay: Republicans bad. Democrats good.”
Bob: The government is coming! The government is coming!
Jim: Get off my lawn!
I’m bored.
Jiminy: chirp
Jimmy62
June 28th, 2011
3:53 pm
Before the media spent years pushing soft socialism, Obama’s economic policies would have been considered insane and very extreme.
And what’s really wacky is that lots of people voted for a guy who promised sky high gas prices in his campaign, and now those same voters are upset that they are getting exactly what they voted for.
getalife
June 28th, 2011
3:53 pm
She wants the VP job to appease the cons,
willard/crazy 12.
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
3:53 pm
“It gets you nada, Dave R.
Cain has already peaked.”
I’ll take my ability to objectively look at the political landscape over your not so objective view, Jay.
Mighty Righty
June 28th, 2011
3:54 pm
Any Republican can beat Obama. The election is the Republicans to lose. Our gaffe a minute president could be reelected IF he admits his economic ignorance by reversing his anti job policies. He is too much of an narcissistic idealogue to do the right thing. Michelle Bachman will not be the candidate, but if she is she would beat Obama. All Republicans need do is get out of his way and let him continue his self destruction.
thomas
June 28th, 2011
3:54 pm
Bosch
June 28th, 2011
3:46 pm
Easy, didn’t say del said that!
kinda said wasn’t it…. implying I was disagreeing with the previous misquote.
Easy!
By the way, If I am next in line i am first in line, If I am after that person i am 2nd in line….
The person who is not in line but has already been granted admission is not first as they are not in line.
You were wrong it is ok. Just inhale then exhale, we will get through this! Inhale O2 and exhale CO2, u stoner!
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
3:55 pm
Joe Mama, okay you’re half right or half wrong.
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
3:55 pm
Recent Grad @ 3:53 — should be required reading for any new poster here.
thomas
June 28th, 2011
3:56 pm
Jay,
Do you have the polling numbers from June of 2007 to show us for historical reference what President Obama was polling at this same period of time in his primary?
Jay
June 28th, 2011
3:57 pm
In late May ‘07 Obama (23%) was second behind Edwards (29%), with Hillary (21%) just a couple of points behind him in third, Thomas.
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
3:58 pm
Righty — “Any Republican can beat Obama.”
Well, no, that’s not what the polls say. They say that an as-yet-unidentified Republican can do it, but except for a couple of outlier polls, none of the GOP candidates thus far could do it — and neither could Sarah Palin.
If any Republican could beat President Obama, then why don’t y’all just *pick one now* and send him on the campaign trail? Why all the hand-wringing about *which one* to send? Y’all sound like my wife, trying to decide what to wear to go to a dinner party. (laughing)
Tundra Dude
June 28th, 2011
3:58 pm
Bachmann: Wackiness will out itself in time
Think Progress had a list of her 10 nuttiest statements. No point in posting them, the list grows longer daily, it seems.
She had one creative idea for dealing with the deficit…..let Glenn Beck do it….
Also claimed she could do the budget cuts “over a weekend”.
Sounds like a _Just Do It_ kind of gal…..can hardly wait.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
3:59 pm
Just imagine how the Democrats we’re drooling over John Edwards once upon a time not too long ago.
Adam
June 28th, 2011
3:59 pm
Peadawg: But not as many as your precious Obama.
Not. Even. Close.
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
3:59 pm
josef, regarding her foot in mouth disease, I think about snowballs in hell.
Because she has Hermanitis, there is NO WAY that woman can go through an entire presidential campaign without saying something extraordinarily, jaw droppingly stupid.
I’m not sure if there are odds on it, but I’m thinking 10 – 1 that she does…
And the “hits” just keep on coming…
WASHINGTON • Michele Bachmann’s claim that she has “never gotten a penny” from a family farm that’s been subsidized by the government is at odds with her financial disclosure statements. They show tens of thousands in personal income from the operation.
Bachmann’s wildly off-base assertion last month that a NATO airstrike might have killed as many as 30,000 Libyan civilians, her misrepresentations of the health care law, misfires on other aspects of President Barack Obama’s record and historical inaccuracies have saddled her with a reputation for uttering populist jibes that don’t hold up. On Tuesday, she erred in describing John Quincy Adams as a Founding Father.
Jay
June 28th, 2011
4:00 pm
Let’s agree to remind each other of this disagreement when the time comes, Dave R.
Recent Grad
June 28th, 2011
4:00 pm
Anderson Cooper is a gentleman and treats people with dignity and respect, regardless of whether he agrees with them or not. That’s the sign of a professional.
thomas
June 28th, 2011
4:00 pm
See i kept looking for June, I saw the May edition, must not have been a june that year!
Wow so seems to point to the fact that polls around this time are of limited value.
Unless you now feel Hilary had peaked in May of ‘07 since she was the dreaded 3rd?
Be honest you wanted to get to happy hour early today didn’t you, so u just mailed in some red meat for the lions huh?
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
4:00 pm
josef, she’s the flavor of the month (and after Huntsman’s bomb of an announcement the media needed one) and exceeds current expectations.
As those expectations increase, her ability to exceed diminishes greatly. Unless Rick Perry (and don’t get me started on THAT bag of wind) gets in, she’ll be a weak #2 by Christmas.
Tundra Dude
June 28th, 2011
4:02 pm
Joe Mama wrote:
Why all the hand-wringing about *which one* to send? Y’all sound like my wife, trying to decide what to wear to go to a dinner party.
Problem is, they look in the Candidate Closet…….and there’s Nothing to wear!!
Bosch
June 28th, 2011
4:02 pm
Romney/Bachman is the McCain/Palin of 2008 — didn’t work then, wouldn’t work now.
Adam
June 28th, 2011
4:02 pm
Mighty Righty: Any Republican can beat Obama
Not Intended to be a Factual Statement
Mighty Righty
June 28th, 2011
4:03 pm
Here is some crazy sh-t for you lunitic lefties. Thinking there are 57 states and to this day not hasn’t said other wise. Now that is crazy. Not knowing the difference between Marine Corp and Marine Corpse. Now that is “batsh-t” crazy. Not knowing to shut up during God Save the Queen. Now that is crazy. Making a speech saying he had shook the hand of a dead Marin
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:03 pm
What is wrong with the modern Republican Party and voter?! This is like Cynthia McKinney garnering 18%. How can the nation take Republicans seriously when they don’t take themselves seriously? I mean can we get a Kay Bailey Hutchison or an Elizabeth Dole from them at least?
Someone that is at least credible and not afraid of lesbians kidnapping her in a bathroom?
Peadawg
June 28th, 2011
4:03 pm
Can’t help it…gotta do it…
Jay, you’re a sexist pig for attacking Bachmann.
larry
June 28th, 2011
4:03 pm
Bachmann ? Really ?? LOL!!
And no, i dont see her as Romney’s VP canidate.
Now, which one is the right camera?
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
4:04 pm
“Let’s agree to remind each other of this disagreement when the time comes, Dave R.”
Careful, Jay. There are dangers in making statements that are too open to interpretation, as in “Cain has peaked”.
‘Cause if he’s polling at 10% now, all I have to see is 11% after today to prove you wrong.
Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
4:04 pm
Mighty: “Thinking there are 57 states and to this day not hasn’t said other wise. Now that is crazy. Not knowing the difference between Marine Corp and Marine Corpse. Now that is “batsh-t” crazy. Not knowing to shut up during God Save the Queen. Now that is crazy. Making a speech saying he had shook the hand of a dead Marin”
Pleassse stoppppppp it!!! That sound of a ladle scraping the bottom of a barrel grates on my ears.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
June 28th, 2011
4:06 pm
Don’t tell me they are running the generic Republican…. Colbert did a great expose on that guy. He seemed to hang around Men’s rooms alot.
http://www.indecisionforever.com/2011/06/22/stephen-colbert-presents-the-generic-republican-candidate-of-our-hopes-and-dreams
Recent Grad
June 28th, 2011
4:06 pm
Joe Mama, thanks for the recommendation but be careful, Jay might not want you to feed the troll.
Adam
June 28th, 2011
4:07 pm
Mighty Righty: Obama has not doubled down on a single one of those statements. Republican candidates and major players, however, HAVE doubled down on quite a few of their gaffes, collectively, enough to make me think they actually believe what they said in the first place rather than simply making a gaffe.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
4:07 pm
Mighty Righty@4:03, Biden is next in line to succeed Obama as president but Obama is next in line to succeed Biden as the chief gaffer.
getalife
June 28th, 2011
4:08 pm
Hillary is peaking now because the State Department is all hands on deck.
Too bad she will retire soon.
Jay
June 28th, 2011
4:08 pm
Not hardly, Dave R.
A politician such as yourself knows better than to claim victory based on a change within the margin of error, right?
So is that your prediction for Cain, 11 percent?
You know, in your totally unbiased opinion?
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:08 pm
Or how about the twin Republican ice goddesses from the northern fields of Maine?
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
4:09 pm
The woman is the Mistress of Mistaken, the High Priestess of Haywire and the Oracle of the Off-base.
And might be able to do the unthinkable. Which is to make Sarah look like a font of veracity in comparison.
But alas, after George’s unending foot-in-mouth-disease, all bets are off…
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
4:09 pm
Cain or Bachmann would give Romney complimentary balance, so I wouldn’t rule Cain out at this stage.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:10 pm
Can we have a co-Presidency with Snowe and Collins, and keep Biden as VP?
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
4:11 pm
Jay, I won’t begin to make any predictions regarding numbers until all the players are in.
However, Cain will poll higher than he is now, and above the margin of error.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
4:11 pm
she is not someone to be taken seriously as a potential occupant of the White House.- Jay
And a community organizer was?
In the harsh glare of the national spotlight, wackiness will out itself in time.- Jay
Always with the personal attacks on conservative women like Bachman and Palin. What is it that strong conservative women scare the hell outta libs? I think independents are onto the lib effort to try and marginalize women like Bachman by ridiculing them and engaging in character assassination.
Adam
June 28th, 2011
4:12 pm
Annnnnnd in today’s PSYCHO TALK! Michele Bachmann’s 32 most crazy sayings!
It’s almost 1/10 of the way to a calendar!
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
4:12 pm
“Can we have a co-Presidency with Snowe and Collins, and keep Biden as VP?”
Sucking up to Bosch gets you nowhere on this blog, jewcowboy.
josef
June 28th, 2011
4:13 pm
ZamVet
I wish I shared your optimism here. Unlike the others, she can come across “acceptable” and even last p.m. the trio I was mentioning, who are normally rather restrained in their gushing and to the liberal left in their outlooks, were themselves “crediting” how she explained her way out of them up to and including that horse sh*t one on Obama’s India trip. I’m telling ya, Bro, it scared me.
Sister Sarah was/is, well, an easy target. Newt cooks his own loose goose. Caine is a fruitcake and since he has chocolate icing, the left won’t let up on him to prove they’re not racist. The other also rans together don’t have the pizazz of a three-day-old dog t*rd. That leaves Romney as the only one on that side who, by comparison, looks like a wise elder statesman. She may well be putting him in the shade.
That might be an immediate gratification to the Democrats in hopes the Bruin’s right that wackiness will out itself…but all it takes is one good scandal on the Obama campaign or one major catastrophe in the summer-fall of 2012, and there she’ll be…
Peadawg
June 28th, 2011
4:14 pm
“Sucking up to Bosch gets you nowhere on this blog, jewcowboy. ”
He may be trying to turn him to the darkside.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
4:14 pm
So who are the Dems going to run? Hillary. Someone suggested to me that they were going to run Obama again. That garnered a pretty good belly laugh from me but when I finally quit laughing I realized he mighta been serious.
Jay
June 28th, 2011
4:14 pm
Thulsa, I wouldn’t insult strong conservative women — and I have some in my extended family — by calling Bachmann a strong conservative woman.
Adam
June 28th, 2011
4:14 pm
Let me reiterate something:
The following phrases do nothing for your argument:
1) 57 states
2) Teleprompter
3) Marine Corpse
4) Community Organizer
5) Back of the Bus
etc etc. I have a complete list at home. I’m beginning to think I should have it in the cloud for ready use.
Mighty Righty
June 28th, 2011
4:14 pm
For you nutty lefties here is evidence of insane behavior. Thinking there are 57 states. Now that is crazy. Not knowing the difference between Marine Corp and Marine Corpse. That is looney. Not knowing it is rude to talk during God Save the Queen at a ceremony honoring the Queen. That is unbelievably crazy. Making a speech in front of a dead Marine’s family claiming to have shook his hand. That is “batsh*t crazy”. And whackiest of all is the provebly insane idea of continnuing to do the same things over and over and over spending money we don’t have expecting different results.
Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
4:15 pm
Michelle Bachmann is the embodiment of all that was wrong with Herman Cain as a candidate, and much of it boils down to discipline and political savvy. As it turns out, corporate boardrooms aren’t necessarily such good proving grounds for potential presidential candidates.
Ragnar Danneskjöld
June 28th, 2011
4:15 pm
Good afternoon. I’ll always take an allegedly ditzy conservative over any leftist. Given the abysmal performance of the current pretender to the office of the presidency, there is no way we could do worse.
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
4:16 pm
Doom — “Always with the personal attacks on conservative women like Bachman and Palin. What is it that strong conservative women scare the hell outta libs? I think independents are onto the lib effort to try and marginalize women like Bachman by ridiculing them and engaging in character assassination.”
You don’t see many libs dissing Republican women like Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe. That would be because they’ve got some class and intelligence, and because they don’t go around talking a lot of smack like Palin and Bachmann do.
It ain’t the gender, it’s teh stoopid.
RedEye
June 28th, 2011
4:16 pm
Make no mistake…Chris Matthews and MSNBC will devote a cult like following of Bachmann that will make stalking look like a first glance…oh wait, are we already there?
Adam
June 28th, 2011
4:16 pm
Ragnar: Given the abysmal performance of the current pretender to the office of the presidency, there is no way we could do worse.
I would laugh at that if I didn’t know you were serious. Instead, it’s just sad that you believe that.
Adam
June 28th, 2011
4:17 pm
Homeward! See you all later!
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:17 pm
Thulsa Doom,
“What is it that strong conservative women scare the hell outta libs? ”
Just the batshyte crazy ones scare us. Why doesn’t the GOP get women like Collins, Snowe, Dole, or Hutchison to run for higher office? It makes me think the GOP is vested in making women look stupid so men will stay in power, rather than run intelligent and ration GOP women and possibly have them win.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
4:17 pm
Jay,
And I wouldn’t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you actually believe what you just wrote at 4:14.
Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
4:18 pm
Thulsa: “So who are the Dems going to run? Hillary”
I don’t know, go ask them.
As a principled leftist, I don’t speak for them and god knows they don’t speak for me.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
4:19 pm
jewcowboy,
Nothing crazy about her or Palin. Some people have that perception because of the continous character assassination put upon them by the liberal media. Tell a lie big enough, long enough, and loud enough and people start to believe it. Tell it once or twice about a conservative woman and the liberal sheeple automatically believe it.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:20 pm
Dave R.,
“Sucking up to Bosch gets you nowhere on this blog”
Seriously, though. What is up with GOP running the most unqualified women for President when the GOP has some great candidates that are sane, rational, intellectual and could garner bi-partisan support?
Ragnar Danneskjöld
June 28th, 2011
4:21 pm
In respect for the genius of Adam, I have to acknowledge the validity of his 4:16 post. The current vice president would be worse.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
June 28th, 2011
4:21 pm
Is it safe to come out from under the feinting couch….why I am just all afear of just about anything the Republicans do. Their “strong” female lunatics, their candidates, their plans, their governors….
How silly is the poster who claims that mockery is because of fear.
josef
June 28th, 2011
4:21 pm
Recent Grad…
). I also respect John King for much the same professionalism on air. That’s why this scared me. It was not that expected behavior, but bordered on the gushing…
Don’t misunderstand. I’m an Anderson Cooper groupie for lack of a better word, and nice t-shirt and “one of us” aside, I admire the hell out of his gentlemanly manners (and no, Imam, not going there even if Daddy was from Meridian
DAVE
Like I said to ZamVet, I wish I shared your optimism…and while I’m looking for a descriptor and so far find your bat sh*t crazy close, it’s still too, well, dismissive…
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
4:22 pm
Equating Snowe and Collins to “strong conservative women” is like equating Jay Bookman to “objective writing”.
Neither are farther from the truth.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:22 pm
Thulsa doom,
“character assassination put upon them by the liberal media.”
You mean the press quoting their inaccuracies and bat shyte crazy statements?
Granny Godzilla
June 28th, 2011
4:22 pm
Nothing crazy about Palin or Bachmann.????
If one’s crazy I suppose they could appear normal.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
4:22 pm
Bachmann not a strong conservative woman? hmmm. Lets see- the woman was a tax lawyer, raised a family, and also took on the burden of helping raise something like 23 foster kids. Not sure what planet you guys live on but to me it takes a strong person to shoulder that kind of responsibility for that many kids. But go on with your character assassination- its what yall do.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
4:23 pm
Well you have to give Bachmann credit for achieving the honor of being on Jay’s Republican hit list. Rumor has it that the White House fears her as well. Obama is traveling to Iowa with his teleprompter and it’s been reported that he’ll be attacking Bachmann.
Mr Right
June 28th, 2011
4:23 pm
June 28th, 2011
4:14 pm
Thulsa, I wouldn’t insult strong conservative women — and I have some in my extended family — by calling Bachmann a strong conservative woman.
If she isn’t conservative women, what is she ? A liberal ?
Don't Forget
June 28th, 2011
4:23 pm
She’s also as socially conservative as anyone in the field, probably more so. I don’t think that will help her either.
thomas
June 28th, 2011
4:24 pm
Jay,
Again, back up your claim, what has she done to show herself as a weak conservative woman?
I was just playing with my first post, but now it seems as if you may actually be threatened by strong minded (stubborn)women, as you have offered no specifics just broad personal attacks as fact for your reason to dislike her.
Remember Ole Joe Biden has had a few “slip-ups” verbally of his own, never saw you proclaim him as a candidate to not be taken seriously. Why the difference?
Do you feel inadequate?
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:24 pm
Dave R.,
“Neither are farther from the truth.”
And Hutchinson and Dole?
carlosgvv
June 28th, 2011
4:24 pm
It’s sad to think back to the days of Truman, Ike and JFK and reaize that someone like her would never have gotten this far, even a man with the same personality and quirks. That she may be a serious contender just shows how dumbed down this Country has become and gives no hope that things will improve in the foreseeable future.
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
4:24 pm
Dave @ 4:22 — Would you indulge me by explaining your position on that, please?
Jay
June 28th, 2011
4:24 pm
I’ll grant you that much of that is impressive, Thulsa.
None of it qualifies her to be president. And in the political arena, she doesn’t begin to measure up.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
4:25 pm
jewcowboy,
Inaccuracies? Here’s a few of em- 57 states, Austrians speak Austrian, spelling Libya Lybia on a presidential tweet. How’s that for gaffes for the community clown organizer? And yet people still think this bozo is smart??? Seriously?
thomas
June 28th, 2011
4:25 pm
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
4:16 pm
So you are saying a woman with class basically keeps her mouth shut?
How wonderfully 19th century of you!
Mr Right
June 28th, 2011
4:26 pm
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
4:22 pm
Well said !
Ragnar Danneskjöld
June 28th, 2011
4:26 pm
Dear Carlosgvv @ 4:24. truly America lowered the bar by electing a community organizer.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
4:26 pm
“You don’t see many libs dissing Republican women like Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe.”
Lib’s luv rino’s
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:27 pm
“If we took away the minimum wage — if conceivably it was gone — we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level.” Michele Bachmann, Jan. 2005
Uh…well if the idea is to have a permanent serfdom…I suppose this is true.
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
4:27 pm
More form Politifact: No other Republican candidate whose statements have been vigorously vetted matched that record of inaccuracy.
josef, time will tell, but I’ve already demonstrated via numerous “pants on fire” statements that the woman has very, very little concern with veracity. (And to be fair, many politicians don’t.)
But I still contend that it is just a matter of time before she belches out some truly boneheaded and flabbergasting falsehood. Her handlers are gonna have one helluva time, delaying the inevitable.
I just hope I have some popcorn when the implosion occurs.
Rag, is ditzy the new euphemism for serial prevaricator?
thomas
June 28th, 2011
4:27 pm
Jay
June 28th, 2011
4:24 pm
But you claimed to call her strong would not be fair to the actual strong conservatives in your family?
What mighty feats have the women of your family done to put soft Ms. Bachmann to shame?
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
4:27 pm
jewcowboy, I always said that the GOP nominated the wrong Dole back in 1996.
But Hutchinson? Not even close to my cup of tea, and a lousy campaigner as well.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:27 pm
“There are hundreds and hundreds of scientists, many of them holding Nobel Prizes, who believe in intelligent design.” -Rep. Michele Bachmann, Oct. 2006
Care to back that up with fact Ms. Bachmann?
Peadawg
June 28th, 2011
4:28 pm
“None of it qualifies her to be president.” – Someone who voted for Obama in 2008 has no room to talk about lack of qualifications.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
4:28 pm
None of it qualifies her to be president. And in the political arena, she doesn’t begin to measure up.- Jay
And I’ll grant that a community organizer running for president 150 days into his first and only senate term doesn’t measure up to being president. And given the state of the economy many independents would probably agree with me. Pretty speeches doesn’t make one qualified.
thomas
June 28th, 2011
4:28 pm
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
4:22 pm
Why?
What do strong conservative women do that neither of those 2 do?
RedEye
June 28th, 2011
4:29 pm
Thulsa,
you forgot to mention his pronunciation of “corpsman”…truly classic
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
4:30 pm
Ah yes, one of my favorite pastimes. reading neo-cons getting their feathers ruffled about being fake conservatives.
Conservatism is dead in the Republican Party.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:30 pm
“Carbon dioxide is portrayed as harmful. But there isn’t even one study that can be produced that shows that carbon dioxide is a harmful gas.” -Rep. Michelle Bachmann, April, 2009
Wow…just wow. I guess not, if you don’t include the thousands that have been published…or the fact that in high enough level it causes death in humans…but sure…
Peadawg
June 28th, 2011
4:30 pm
“you forgot to mention his pronunciation of “corpsman”…truly classic”
Nah, you can’t beat his speech on Memorial Day when he saw all our fallen heroes in the crowd.
Mr Right
June 28th, 2011
4:31 pm
Jay
June 28th, 2011
4:24 pm
THANKFULLY people that haven’t fallen over on their left side from leaning so far that way will decide if she measures up !
willie lynch
June 28th, 2011
4:31 pm
I like watching for Bachmanns Stepford-like twitch while she’s on camera.
Seriously though she’s not the one.
Recent Grad
June 28th, 2011
4:32 pm
Well, time to go. But before I do, here’s something to think about:
While the jester played for the king and queen in a coat he borrowed from James Dean, Mitt Romney won the election.
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
4:32 pm
Thomas — “So you are saying a woman with class basically keeps her mouth shut?”
I neither said nor thought anything of the sort.
“How wonderfully 19th century of you!”
(laughing) XD
If you met my wife, you’d understand why I find your misassessment funny.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:32 pm
“That’s why people need to continue to go to the town halls, continue to melt the phone lines of their liberal members of Congress, and let them know, under no certain circumstances will I give the government control over my body and my health care decisions.” -Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN)
Interesting terminology coming from a pro-lifer who wants to abolish abortion rights. Irony much?
josef
June 28th, 2011
4:32 pm
Ragnar Danneskjöld
“I’ll always take an allegedly ditzy conservative over any leftist. Given the abysmal performance of the current pretender to the office of the presidency, there is no way we could do worse”
And there it is. I’m not sure there are enought of them out there to do just that in numbers enough to get her in…and this is not to excuse the Democrats…there’s enough of them to do the same. It’s this hyperpartisanship run amok…
Mighty Righty
June 28th, 2011
4:32 pm
Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
4:04 pm
Pleassse stoppppppp it!!! That sound of a ladle scraping the bottom of a barrel grates on my ears
Sorry to burst your bubble but your man is a fool. People wondered why the Bamster picked Biden. He picked him because compared to himself, Biden looked bright. Our current economy and his teleprompters are all I need to understand why we are in the mess we are in. The future will not deceive us. He is being judged on his actions, not his words. The election will be on results not promises. Joe Lewis talking about Billy Conn said, “He can run but he can’t hide.” Ditto for the Bamster.
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
4:33 pm
Recon — “Lib’s luv rino’s”
You’re more likely to attract lib votes for President if you run a RINO than if you run a wingnut. Such is the price of ideological purity.
Granny Godzilla
June 28th, 2011
4:33 pm
GOP presidential candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann is now getting the Sarah Palin treatment on Wikipedia. In light of Bachmann’s latest historical hiccup, people are trying to edit John Quincy Adam’s Wikipedia page to reflect her recent gaffe. One edit, for example, changes his description from “John Adams was the sixth President of the United States” to “John Adams, a founding father, was the sixth President of the United States.”
Another more satirical edit added, “But even as an embryo, John Quincy Adams could feel pain and was a Founding Father.” In striking the revisions, the page administrator included the statement, “Please don’t edit an historical article based on current events.” Incidentally, the Founding Fathers Wikipedia page still does not list John Quincy Adams as a member.
From Think Progress
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
4:34 pm
Wonder whose on deck next for Jay’s Republican bashing. Maybe Palin, while she probably won’t be a candidate herself she will surely support Bachmann. The left really fears conservative woman and conservative African Americans. You can call it bigotry.
RedEye
June 28th, 2011
4:34 pm
pea,
not sure if its been mentioned yet or not, but a fairly recent one as well…
signing his name and 2008 on his visit at buckingham palace a month or two ago
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
4:35 pm
Neither Snowe nor Collins are considered “conservative” by any definition of the word, therefore the term “strong conservative women” cannot apply to them.
Jay
June 28th, 2011
4:35 pm
Thomas, if I was threatened by stubborn, strong-minded women, I would have been divorced a LLOOOOONGGG time ago.
In a political context, a strong conservative woman gets things done. What has Bachmann accomplished? No bill or resolution she has sponsored has ever passed. She has won no leadership post, not even a subcommittee chair. When she briefly announced last fall that she would seek the No. 4 slot in House leadership, she was basically snickered into withdrawing by her own colleagues.
She has shown no ability to do more than recite bumper sticker slogans. She doesn’t know much, and doesn’t even know what she doesn’t know. But she’s perfectly willing to make things up. Other than those things, yeah, she’s a perfect candidate to be leader of the free world.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
4:35 pm
jewcowboy,
I got a better one for you since it pertains to the everyday realities of life faced by millions of Americans.
These numbers come in the context of an earlier Obama promise that his recovery plan will “save or create three to four million jobs over the next two years.”
Yeah jewcowboy, please show me how the man can claim to save or create jobs when its a fictional state to begin with. What manner of a fool would say such a thing and even worse what manner of a fool would believe an absurd statement about jobs “created or saved”.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124451592762396883.html
“Saved or created” has become the signature phrase for Barack Obama as he describes what his stimulus is doing for American jobs. His latest invocation came yesterday, when the president declared that the stimulus had already saved or created at least 150,000 American jobs — and announced he was ramping up some of the stimulus spending so he could “save or create” an additional 600,000 jobs this summer. These numbers come in the context of an earlier Obama promise that his recovery plan will “save or create three to four million jobs over the next two years.”
“To begin with, the number is pure fiction — the administration has no way to measure how many jobs are actually being ’saved.’
Of course, the inability to measure Mr. Obama’s jobs formula is part of its attraction. Never mind that no one — not the Labor Department, not the Treasury, not the Bureau of Labor Statistics — actually measures “jobs saved.” As the New York Times delicately reports, Mr. Obama’s jobs claims are “based on macroeconomic estimates, not an actual counting of jobs.” Nice work if you can get away with it.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:36 pm
“I find it interesting that it was back in the 1970s that the swine flu broke out under another, then under another Democrat president, Jimmy Carter. I’m not blaming this on President Obama, I just think it’s an interesting coincidence.” -Rep. Michele Bachmann
So what does Gerald Ford say about it since it broke out in 1976 during his Presidency, not Carter’s?
Peadawg
June 28th, 2011
4:36 pm
“You can call it bigotry.” – Or sexism. OR racism. Those are 2 words the left love to throw around like a baseball at the Braves game.
Finn McCool
June 28th, 2011
4:36 pm
Conservatives like rolling her out cause it plays into their narrative of being victimized.
“Oh, the liberal media this, the liberal media that….oh, everyone is against us….oh, we are bible huggers…ohhhh”
thomas
June 28th, 2011
4:36 pm
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
4:32 pm
Your comment was about them being classless, then followed up with the statement about them talking trash.
Explain more to us then what should be concluded by those 2 statements back to back?
Seems to me as if you are saying exactly that. If not please explain further.
Maybe if i met your wife i would understand why your subconscience comes out on a blog, instead of real life. Are you affraid to speak about women or you wife that way to your wife?
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:37 pm
Dave R.,
“Neither Snowe nor Collins are considered “conservative” by any definition of the word, therefore the term “strong conservative women” cannot apply to them.”
And we know “moderate” is considered a four letter word in the modern GOP…
Peadawg
June 28th, 2011
4:38 pm
“She has shown no ability to do more than recite bumper sticker slogans. ” – Like “hope and change”?
“No bill or resolution she has sponsored has ever passed.” – As opposed to voting “present” on everything.
Dang Bachmann and Obama look more and more a like each day. Eh, Jay?
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
4:38 pm
jewcowboy, good one.
I’m relatively certain that there must be dozens more, like that, out there; and the woman has even gotten started yet!
Peadawg
June 28th, 2011
4:39 pm
“But she’s perfectly willing to make things up.” – Like Obamacare will lower premiums?
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
4:39 pm
Jay,
And what were Barack Obama’s impressive legislative accomplishments in his term as a senator? Uh. Um. What? Maybe 1 or 2 bills sponsored. WOW! Impressed? Uh. That would be no. And a resounding no at that.
Message from Matti
June 28th, 2011
4:39 pm
jcb: “Interesting terminology coming from a pro-lifer who wants to abolish abortion rights. Irony much?”
Indeed! Every self-described “conservative” candidate who claims to be “for freedom” should be equipped with mandatory asterisk signs: **Freedom is not free, and therefore will only be applied to those who can afford it.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
4:39 pm
“And we know “moderate” is considered a four letter word in the modern Democratic party…”
Jewcowboy, fixed your typo.
RedEye
June 28th, 2011
4:40 pm
my favorite
“Everybody knows that it makes no sense that you send a kid to the emergency room for a treatable illness like asthma, they end up taking up a hospital bed, it costs, when, if you, they just gave, you gave them treatment early and they got some treatment, and a, a breathalyzer, or inhalator, not a breathalyzer. “
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
4:41 pm
She has shown no ability to do more than recite bumper sticker slogans. ” – Like “hope and change”?
You forgot “Yes. We can!”
Good lord. A lib talking about bumper sticker slogans when Obama’s whole campaign was one of non-substance, vague generalities, and hopey changey and yes. we can.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:41 pm
Thulsa Doom,
“an earlier Obama promise that his recovery plan will “save or create three to four million jobs over the next two years.”
How about 14M?
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/how-many-jobs-depend-on-the-big-three/
Granny Godzilla
June 28th, 2011
4:41 pm
“The left really fears conservative woman and conservative African Americans.”
Fear?
Keep right on thinking that and PLEASE PLEASE runwith the Bachmann Cain ticket.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
4:42 pm
Michele, playing climatologist:
“The big thing we are working on now is the global warming hoax. It’s all voodoo, nonsense, hokum, a hoax.”
~ March 15, 2008 speech at the Sherburne County Republican Nominating Convention.
“There isn’t one such study because carbon dioxide is not a harmful gas, it is a harmless gas. Carbon dioxide is natural. It is not harmful. It is part of Earth’s life cycle…And yet we’re being told that we have to reduce this natural substance and reduce the American standard of living to create an arbitrary reduction in something that is naturally occurring in the earth.”
- 2009 Earth Day speech on the House floor.
DOA, by her own toxic gases!
Fletch
June 28th, 2011
4:42 pm
I posted this over on Kyles blog, it’s just as true over here:
think Brit Hume said it best ” She could probably win the nomination, but I doubt she could win the election”
Bachmanns biggest problem is that she doesn’t bring anything to the table for the INDEPENDENT voter. Die hard Dems arent going to vote for her, die hard GOPS arent going to support her, so that only leaves the independents. Who, since they have no party affiliation, tend to seriously analyze every candidate before casting their vote. In that regard, Bachmann just doesn’t pass muster.
Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
4:43 pm
What is it that strong conservative women scare the hell outta libs?
You mean like the Iron Lady? She’s the model for all so-called “strong conservative women”. She calls the bluff of the weak-kneed men, reminds them not to “go wobbly” when it’s about to hit the fan. By that measure, to find out if she’s a true strong conservative woman we need to find a male wobbler she’s helped to straighten out and make fly straight.
Jay
June 28th, 2011
4:43 pm
Peadawg, Thulsa: The proof will be in the pudding, as my mother used to say (and still does).
Obama took on the Clinton machine and then the GOP and became president of the United States. Not bad, huh?
If Bachmann accomplishes the same feat, you’ll be right to compare them. But you know what?
Ain’t gonna happen.
Do you people REALLY believe she’d make a good president?
Yes or no answer please.
Tundra Dude
June 28th, 2011
4:44 pm
WASHINGTON – A former chief of staff to Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) wrote Tuesday that his former boss is “decidedly” not ready to be president.
“She is a faithful conservative with great oratory skills, but without any leadership experience or real results from her years in office,” wrote Ron Carey in an op-ed published in the Des Moines Register. “She is not prepared to assume the White House in 2013,” he concluded.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:45 pm
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.),
“Jewcowboy, fixed your typo.”
It wasn’t a typo as I’m sure you know, so I would appreciate you not appropriating my thoughts and b@stardizing them into what you think. If and when you have an original thought…then post it…otherwise leave mine alone. I wrote what I wanted to express.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
4:45 pm
Another one was when Steve Kroft was interviewing Obama on the death of UBL. Obama said that even before we got UBL that we had denigrated Al qaeda forces. Hey genius are you sure you didn’t mean devastated or decimated? Denigrate would just hurt their feelings.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
4:46 pm
“Think Brit Hume said it best” ” She could probably win the nomination, but I doubt she could win the election”
There’s that old Fox news for you carrying water for Republicans all the time.
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
4:46 pm
Thomas — “Your comment was about them being classless, then followed up with the statement about them talking trash.”
Not exactly. Read on.
“Explain more to us then what should be concluded by those 2 statements back to back?”
They weren’t back-to-back. You left something out. Here’s what I *actually* said:
“You don’t see many libs dissing Republican women like Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe. That would be because they’ve got some class and intelligence, and because they don’t go around talking a lot of smack like Palin and Bachmann do.”
IMO, Collins and Snowe DO have class and intelligence. They exhibit a great deal more patience, collegiality and good will than do Bachmann and Palin. They’re willing to show some flexibility — not blind adherence to the GOP position — in order to get things done. They know that you can’t make things happen in Washington by pounding your fist on the table and demanding that things go your way, and you never see them on the news denigrating or insulting their fellow Americans — not even Democrats.
For their part, Palin and Bachmann talk a lot of smack, IMO. And that’s in addition to not exhibiting the positive personality traits of class and intelligence that I think Snowe and Collins possess.
“Seems to me as if you are saying exactly that. If not please explain further.”
Done. Do you need further elaboration?
“Maybe if i met your wife i would understand why your subconscience comes out on a blog,”
(laughing)
Poor aim on your part, pal. Not even close.
“instead of real life. Are you affraid to speak about women or you wife that way to your wife?”
My wife knows I post here and what handle I use. In fact, she enjoyed the tussle Dave and I had a couple of weeks ago over NATO.
My wife and I are open and honest with each other, and on the subjects of Snowe, Palin, Collins and Bachmann, we are largely in agreement. Except that my wife is much less charitable towards Snowe and Collins than I am.
I suppose it’s because she’s subconsciously sexist, huh? (laughing)
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
4:46 pm
I think an escapee from the Yerkes Primate Center would make a better President than the one we have now.
Bachmann a “good” one? Don’t know that.
But a “better” one than we have now? Unquestionably, yes.
BADA BING
June 28th, 2011
4:47 pm
Well at least Bachman doesn’t have a weiner to tweet.
TGT
June 28th, 2011
4:47 pm
The libs nominated and got Dumb & Dumber elected to the WH, while Granny and Uncle Jed ran congress, with Rev. Gore preaching their Gospel of Climate Change, and they are worried about “wackiness” in the GOP?! If the country can survive the aforementioned, “wackiness” will be gladly welcomed.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
4:48 pm
“Hey genius are you sure you didn’t mean devastated or decimated? Denigrate would just hurt their feelings.”
Thulsa, that’s what happens when he forgets his teleprompter.
Whacks Eloquent
June 28th, 2011
4:48 pm
Jay @ 4:43
I think she’d make a better president than the last 4. That said, I don’t think she’d be the best in the group that is available. Ron Paul probably would be the best overall, but has no prayer of winning either the nomination or the election. And his fans are nuts…
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
4:48 pm
Granny — “Keep right on thinking that and PLEASE PLEASE runwith the Bachmann Cain ticket.”
“PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE”
Don’t throw me in that briar patch, B’rer Republican!
Peadawg
June 28th, 2011
4:49 pm
“Obama took on the Clinton machine and then the GOP and became president of the United States. Not bad, huh?” – Yup, not bad. Looks like you can pick Bachmann’s credentials w/ a fine toothed comb but ignore Obama’s (lack of) credentials.
“Ain’t gonna happen. Do you people REALLY believe she’d make a good president?” – Going by past credentials, hell no. But boy was I wrong in 2008 so who knows.
Granny Godzilla
June 28th, 2011
4:49 pm
Bachman Cain 2012
please please please
pretty please
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:50 pm
Thulsa Doom,
“Hey genius are you sure you didn’t mean devastated or decimated? Denigrate would just hurt their feelings.”
Perhaps he didn’t say those words b/c those were not the words that expressed what he was trying to express. Look up “denigrate”…it doesn’t mean “to hurt ones feelings” If this is all you have…pathetic and petty.
Message from Matti
June 28th, 2011
4:51 pm
I’m with Granny G: PLEASE run a Bachmann/Cain ticket! Heh.. Heh heh… Sweeeeet!
Also, please keep believing that Obama won because the conservative base didn’t turn out for the moderate McCain. HAHAHA! Yeah, that’s it! That’s what happened! Better go as far to the right you can get without being back on the left again!
Whacks Eloquent
June 28th, 2011
4:51 pm
Granny,
No way there are 2 tea party candidates on the ticket. The VP choice will be to unite the establishment and the tea party, however that needs to work. I like the Bachmann/Cain ticket idea though, but better if the order is reversed!
Granny Godzilla
June 28th, 2011
4:52 pm
Matti
I’d love to see a Bachmann Obama debate…..
Bachmann Palin 2012 – Oh be still my beating heart….the excitement is too much for this old gal….
Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
4:53 pm
Here’s Cilizza writing in WaPo:
The comparisons between Palin and Bachmann are, at one level, apt. Both are women (duh) who align most closely with social conservatives. Both are outspoken defenders of their chosen causes whose rhetoric occasionally gets them into hot water.
But, that’s where the similarities end
Aw c’mon, don’t chicken out there. Aren’t you going to point out the fact that she’s an attractive woman, which is one of the most important similarities between the two?
This is one of the things that aggravates me to no end in some mainstream journalism: the fear of speaking, in a serious way, to the primal level of what motivates people to form ties with candidates on a visceral, pre-rational level simply because it offends some of our PC sensibilities. But how can you analyse Bachmann or Palin without talking about their unconscious sexual appeal? It’s like trying to talk about Donald Trump without addressing his use of macho bluster to appeal to something at a deeper level in the electorate. It’s a shirking of the duty of the critic in my view.
How can you talk about Palin and
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/why-michele-bachmann-is-no-sarah-palin/2011/06/28/AGG5ADpH_blog.html?hpid=z2
CJ
June 28th, 2011
4:53 pm
Answering Jay @4:34…
No.
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
4:53 pm
A staggeringly uninformed, religious zealot and extremist nutjob, who has accomplished zippety doo dah in her entire political career. And you hyper-desperate neo-cons want her anywhere near the nuclear football???
Alriiighty then…
“Normalization (of gayness) through desensitization. A very effective way to do this with a bunch of second graders is to take a picture of “The Lion King” for instance, and a teacher might say, “Do you know the music for this movie was written by a gay man?” The message is: I’m better at what I do because I’m gay.”
~ November 6, 2004 speech at Edwatch National Education Conference.
http://tinyurl.com/4acfovo
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
4:56 pm
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:41 pm
Thulsa Doom,
“an earlier Obama promise that his recovery plan will “save or create three to four million jobs over the next two years.”
How about 14M?
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/how-many-jobs-depend-on-the-big-three/
Jewcowboy,
If you’re going to post an article supporting your position then the least you can do is read your own article. The article opens with jennifer granholm dem governor of Michigan which has a pony in this fight stating that the auto industry collapse would mean 14 million jobs. The rest of the article is about how misleading this stat is- that its a completely bogus number and that it also comes from an auto industry study. You must have missed all that.
The second point is that Ford didn’t need the money anyway,
The third point is that if the Feds hadn’t bailed out Chrysler it in no way, shape or form means 14 millions jobs would have been lost- or even 100,000. Chrysler would have sought bankruptcy and kept operating, sold off its profitable jeep division, and or merged or been bought by a stronger car company. So you can’t even logically say that one Chrysler job would have been saved because you don’t know what would have happened.
Fourthly, as I’ve pointed out your own link contradicts your point of view and the 14 million stat that you just posted was blown completely out of the water BY YOUR OWN LINK.
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
4:58 pm
“Bachman Cain 2012″
Never happen. The GOP will nominate a right/moderate like Romney and balance that with a Tea Party conservative (but NOT Bachmann) for Vice-President.
And Hope & Follow ™ won for three distinct reasons:
1. The electorate was tired of the GOP brand of governance (and rightfully so).
2. Social conservatives DID sit on the sidelines (but not enough to make up the entire difference).
3. People bought the “I’m cool / American Idol” schtick like a snake oil salesman to a bunch of rubes.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:58 pm
“Carbon dioxide is natural, it is not harmful, it is a part of Earth’s lifecycle. And yet we’re being told that we have to reduce this natural substance, reduce the American standard of living, to create an arbitrary reduction in something that is naturally occuring in Earth.” ~ Michele Bachmann
So is sulfuric acid, mercury and arsenic…care to make a cup of tea out of either?
Whacks Eloquent
June 28th, 2011
5:00 pm
jewcowboy,
You drink carbonated tea?
josef
June 28th, 2011
5:02 pm
DAVE
Obama was taken “seriously” for the reasons you stated. He won because the economy went into tailspin right there at the last minute. All it takes is one last minute scandal or one last minute crisis. Then Matti and Granny will be singing a different tune.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:04 pm
Thulsa Doom,
My apologies, I was occupied by other things at the moment. I should have been more precise and not written 14M in response to your statement about “an earlier Obama promise that his recovery plan will “save or create three to four million jobs over the next two years.”
“In both cases, there would be major short-term shocks to employment; depending on which scenario you use, a contraction of the Detroit Three would result in direct and indirect job losses of 2.5 million to 3 million in 2009.”
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
5:04 pm
jewcowboy — “So is sulfuric acid, mercury and arsenic…care to make a cup of tea out of either?”
Come now. Arsenic tea is perfectly safe. It’s the same principle as it is with snakehandling.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_God_with_Signs_Following
Message from Matti
June 28th, 2011
5:07 pm
Dave R.,
I can’t totally disagree, but I have to attribute Obama’s win, in part, to the way McCrusty sneered with open contempt in the debate when he put finger quotes around the term “health of the woman.” For future reference, a candidate who does not give a rat’s fuzzy about women our our health should at least pretend to care. Or at least, not sneer so openly at the subject. (Just a tip, there!)
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:07 pm
Whacks Eloquent,
“You drink carbonated tea?”
No…a more potent potion called Diet Crack…I mean Coke…but there are these: http://coffeetea.about.com/od/teaandtisanebasics/a/SparklingTeas.htm
cosby smith
June 28th, 2011
5:07 pm
oh hum..another anti Republican candidate blog by Jay…wonder when he will post the truth about the Dems candidate..gold old Barry S. y’all know the community organizer – now that was a qualification for being President..as we sink further and further into a third world country – give ‘em hell Jay!!!
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June 28th, 2011
5:08 pm
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Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
5:08 pm
jewcowboy: “Carbon dioxide is natural, it is not harmful, it is a part of Earth’s lifecycle. And yet we’re being told that we have to reduce this natural substance, reduce the American standard of living, to create an arbitrary reduction in something that is naturally occuring in Earth – Michelle Bachmann”
Well done. What’s striking about the statement is that there is no concern over TRUTH, over whether it might be possible for C2O to both be natural and also harmful to the atmosphere when released in ever larger quantities. Which in turn shows there is a failure to see the natural world as a system. Instead, all of it gets waved away as a threat to “American prosperity”, basically just a paranoid gesture.
Halftrack
June 28th, 2011
5:09 pm
Jay. It is so early in the running of the race. Some get out of the gate real fast. Others catch up within closing for the stretch run. Why are you so dismissive of the candidates now? Did you have these same thoughts about Hillary in 2008 race so early on? An emphatic NO!!! She has good trainers and will not become wacky as suggested – - – only media gets more wacky every day.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
5:09 pm
jewcowboy,
I understand. We all sometimes don’t read our entire links to see what point they are actually making and in this case if you just read the 1st paragraph one would be left with the impression that 14 million jobs were at stake.
But still I have to disagree. Ford was doing fine and is rocking along and making good money. My younger brother bought it at $4, sold at $9, and now I think its like $20. Chrysler was the only one that really needed a bailout and as I said if they didn’t get it they would have just restructured or been bought out. There likely would have been job losses but nowhere near 2.5-3 million jobs. Not even close. GM I believe was also ok and did not have to have the money. Even after the corrected numbers down to 2.5 to 3 million even then then that would never have happened because that’s supposing all 3 companies would have gone out of business and that just wasn’t going to happen.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
5:09 pm
We breath in Oxygen and breath out some carbon dioxide. I guess we should place a tax on the amount of carbon dioxide we emit so we can generate more revenues for liberal programs and save the planet from global warming.
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
5:10 pm
I’d love to see a Bachmann/Foghorn Leghorn debate…
“He won because the economy went into tailspin right there at the last minute.”
josef, I believe he won because the previous administration was a complete train wreck – pretty much from beginning to end. There was NO way that any Republican other than Abraham Lincoln could have won in 2008.
So, from what I can tell, we have exactly one GOP candidate who is not either a complete joke, or who is so generally unimpressive, there is no way people want them at 1600 Pa. Ave.
Right now, it is Mitten’s race to lose.
And he must feel like the 1998 Yankees…
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:13 pm
Can I just point out the obvious for a second. When someone like Dave R. writes, “It’s just that Bachmann is bat-sh*t crazy” then the woman has NO chance of winning…
Discussion over…
Don't Forget
June 28th, 2011
5:16 pm
Tom Petty to Bachman: Don’t use “American Girl” as a campaign song
josef
June 28th, 2011
5:16 pm
ZamVet
I beg to disagree…it was pretty much neck and neck up until the tailspin. I don’t disagree that there was not a lot of dissatisfaction with the GOP, but the middle was undecided and it was the tailspin that put the Democrats over the edge. All you have to do is to look at the margins in several of the key states to see that…
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
5:18 pm
jewcowboy,
Personally I think its a non-issue about Bachman anyway. I’m thinking Rick Perry takes it over Romney and that Marco Rubio has the VP locked up. The only thing about Bachman is that she has such a nauseating, whining type nasal voice. Shouldn’t have anything to do with anything but to be honest it grates on me for some reason. Its petty I know but nevertheless it drives me nuts to hear her voice.
I’m outta here. Yall have fun.
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
5:18 pm
“There was NO way that any Republican other than Abraham Lincoln could have won in 2008.”
And I wouldn’t have voted for HIM, either!
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
5:19 pm
The discussion may be over but the race is far from over unless one believes that all the nations issues our settled and finalized on Jay’s blog. Now that would be bat-sh*t crazy.
pogo
June 28th, 2011
5:19 pm
Jay continues on his quest to try to pick off the republican candidates one by one. If only someone in the gushing media (including Jay) would have properly vetted Obama in 2008, we would have all been better off. Granted, he would have probably won anyway because of the dismal offerings of the Republican party in that year and the dismal performance of the socialist George. W. Bush, but couldn’t someone have taken a closer look at Obama? Jay was all OK with electing one of the most under-qualified candidates to ever run for that office. And sadly, he will continue to support what I and most of the nation will come to know as the “The Big Mistake”.
Jay, at this point, are you not scared for the future of this country? Obama has done nothing to reverse the downward spiral we are caught in except to make it worse by insistance of more deficit spending. Are you not worried about the legacy that you are leaving for your children?
And because of our financial difficulties and the entitlement mentality that has enveloped America are you not afraid that we just may have end up as a society wherein our personnal freedoms are relinguished in exchange for some kind of menial government provided existance? There are millions of people in this country that have already made the decision to give over their freedom to the government and their promises. Aren’t you at least worried about this a little Jay? If you can’t see this as the end result of the road Obama and the progressives are proposing to take this nation, I pity you.
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
5:20 pm
I think jewcowboy’s 5:13 was a compliment . . .
. . . but I’m not entirely sure.
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
5:21 pm
Don’t Forget — “Tom Petty to Bachman: Don’t use “American Girl” as a campaign song”
May I recommend Nick Lowe’s “Raging Eyes?”
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
5:22 pm
I’d like to point out that pogo’s handle spelled backwards is “o, gop.”
That explains a lot.
Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
5:22 pm
Tom Petty to Bachman: Don’t use “American Girl” as a campaign song
Shades of Springsteen contra Reagan for “Born in the U.S.A.”.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:22 pm
Thulsa Doom,
“We all sometimes don’t read our entire links”
I did actually, I was just being lazy b/c I had some other things to do, so I just went with the number int he headline and didn’t write any explanation.
“But still I have to disagree.”
And feel free to speculate. You know why you have that luxury? B/c President Bush, President-elect Obama and a Democratic lead Congress had the foresight to push for a bailout. And for the record…both Chrysler and GM filed for bankruptcy….
Jay
June 28th, 2011
5:23 pm
Thulsa, GM was doomed without the money and nobody seriously disputes that. Do you think the stockholders ended up with nothing and the executive team agreed to leave because they could have survived without the money?
As Ford acknowledges, it too probably would have gone under except for the serendipitous fact that it had borrowed a huge amount of money for expansion overseas just before the implosion came, giving them enough money to tide them over. Without that happy accident, they would have been in much the same shape as GM and Chrysler.
pogo
June 28th, 2011
5:24 pm
The peoples house is now officially for sale. Obama is nothing but a sleazy Chicago politician.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/obama-pushing-behind-scenes-to-win-over-big-dollar-donors/2011/06/24/AGO5NGoH_print.html
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:25 pm
Dave R.,
“but I’m not entirely sure.”
Neither compliment nor slight…just the honest truth
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
5:26 pm
“Thulsa, GM was doomed without the money and nobody seriously disputes that.”
Actually, many seriously do, Jay.
Including Mitt Romney.
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
5:27 pm
Pogo — “The peoples house is now officially for sale.”
Talk about not reading your links . . . Pogo, did you even *read* the story all the way through? If so, then you missed this:
“The West Wing charm offensive shows how Obama’s White House, which has eschewed Clinton-style traditions of feeding donor egos with Lincoln bedroom overnights and frequent phone calls from the president, is adjusting itself for a campaign that needs to overcome low approval ratings and a sour economy.”
You know what “eschewed” means, don’t you?
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:28 pm
Well, we shoulda let GM collapse, along with Chrysler. Ford would be kicking even more booty today than ever.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:29 pm
Thulsa Doom,
“The only thing about Bachman is that she has such a nauseating, whining type nasal voice.”
That’s the ONLY thing? Though I can sympathize…Romeny’s voice drives me nuts. I have no idea why. I think I maybe perceive it a bit condescending…
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
5:29 pm
The automotive bailout was pay off to the unions. Many companies have come through bankruptcy and survived and there’s no proof that GM would not have been able to do so.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:29 pm
This stupid broad will be so forgotten about by this November. Why the big whoopla?
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:30 pm
Dave R.,
“Including Mitt Romney.”
Well we know he has a penchant for laying off people…
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:30 pm
I just say load up on ammo. Its coming.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:31 pm
Romney stands not chance. This crazy broad even less. We are doom to another 4 of Obama. It is gonna be flat out ugly….
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
5:31 pm
“11th Circuit rules for Georgia in water wars case”
Some sanity at the 11th Circuit.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:31 pm
Mr. Charlie,
“Well, we shoulda let GM collapse, along with Chrysler.”
Bite your tongue! If that would have happened I would never been able to reach 128 in my CTS-V. Screw jobs…that was worth the bailout to me…
Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
5:32 pm
The automotive bailout was pay off to the unions. Many companies have come through bankruptcy and survived and there’s no proof that GM would not have been able to do so.
Sorry, Recon, this post is just a load of blithering idiocy.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:32 pm
We have reached the “tipping point” in America where somebody like Obama can get elected. There are more with their hand out than there are contributing. It is gonna be kinda fun to be honest.
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
5:32 pm
Mr Charlie — “I just say load up on ammo. Its coming.”
Didn’t I see you buying 55-gallon water drums and cases of MREs over at Hodge Army Surplus back in 1999?
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:33 pm
GM might have survived the unions, but it don’t look like Detroit will.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:33 pm
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.),
“there’s no proof that GM would not have been able to do so.”
Nice you have the luxury to speculate, huh?
Uncle Jed
June 28th, 2011
5:35 pm
But like Cain, she is not someone to be taken seriously as a potential occupant of the White House.
++++++++++++++++++++
Neither is the sitting president come January 20, 2013.
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
5:35 pm
“Romney stands not chance.”
I disagree. While Romney isn’t exactly my cup of tea, many Republicans (and some of us not so Republicans) are so intent on getting Hope & Follow ™ out of the Oval Office that we are willing to hold our noses and vote for a candidate that isn’t Hope & Follow ™.
josef
June 28th, 2011
5:36 pm
Mr Charlie
You keep saying “it’s coming” but don’t say what “it” is…be careful, though, habeas corpus is still MIA…
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:37 pm
Obama is a shoe in, the Republicans don’t have anyone that can even be taken serious…..The house of cards is coming down.
RB from Gwinnett
June 28th, 2011
5:37 pm
Geee…. I’m SHOCKED Jay thinks every one of the R candidates is crazy, stupid, foolish, unqualfied, whatever the derogatory word of the day is. Just SHOCKED!!
You’re a schtick is tired Jay. This city deserves better than your crap disguised as “journalism”.
Uncle Jed
June 28th, 2011
5:38 pm
getalife (from downstairs)
June 28th, 2011
1:14 pm
Jed is here to call us liars.
+++++++++++++++++++++
And as the evil stepsisters looked on, the Prince knelt down and alas, the slipper fit.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:38 pm
josef,
“habeas corpus is still MIA”
Oh the irony….
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:39 pm
What is “it”? Mass inflation, devaluation of our currency, riots, violent protest and class warfare.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:41 pm
“Mass inflation, devaluation of our currency, riots, violent protest and class warfare.”
And tinfoil hats…we must not forget the tinfoil hats.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
5:41 pm
“Sorry, Recon, this post is just a load of blithering idiocy.”
LWM I would expect you to have that viewpoint.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:41 pm
Our government is growing, our tax base is shrinking, we printing money like mad just to pay our bills. Are you guys really that stupid that you really don’t see where this is going?
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:44 pm
“our tax base is shrinking’
Only because one party actually refuses to raise any taxes…or even to remove tax breaks…
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:44 pm
No Cowboy, no hats, just economics 101. Do you spend 2x what you make and put the rest on credit cards?
Explain to me how our economic policy is sustainable.
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
5:44 pm
Good on Petty telling her to cease and desist.
That woman needs some happenin’ Gene Vincent music to better reflect the decade in which she is stuck…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wHG8U0fa1Q
josef
June 28th, 2011
5:45 pm
Mr Charlie…
I would suggest in all seriousness, then, that you be highly judicious of when and where you say what. Don’t let hyperbole and partisan rhetoric get you a ticket in the early roundups as the crackdown begins. Go about your business quietly and with no fanfare and don’t draw attention to yourself.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
5:46 pm
“Nice you have the luxury to speculate, huh?”
jewcowboy, I said there’s no proof and there isn’t only “speculation” by Obama supporters that they wouldn’t have been able to.
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
5:46 pm
Mr Charlie — “No Cowboy, no hats, just economics 101. Do you spend 2x what you make and put the rest on credit cards?”
Nobody’s arguing for that. How about we cut expenses (spending) AND bring more money into the house? (increase revenue)
The GOP seems interested only in one side of the solvency equation.
Uncle Jed
June 28th, 2011
5:46 pm
And tinfoil hats…we must not forget the tinfoil hats.
+++++++++++++++++++++++
Well, as opposed to felt hats, no beavers died and the foil ones are recycleable. Go Green.
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
5:47 pm
“or even to remove tax breaks…”
Not according to reports coming out of the deficit reduction negotiations.
Jackie
June 28th, 2011
5:47 pm
It is ironic that today’s topic is reflective of the attitude the so-called children have with the debt ceiling.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/06/28/news/economy/debt_ceiling_fallout_bpc/index.htm?hpt=hp_t2
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
5:47 pm
Off to pick up my daughter. Play nice.
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
5:47 pm
“The GOP seems interested only in one side of the solvency equation.”
And even there, the tiny amounts are a total joke…
Jackie
June 28th, 2011
5:48 pm
Those would be the children in the US House and Senate.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:49 pm
“Shades of Springsteen contra Reagan for “Born in the U.S.A.”.
I do find the GOP tendency to steal music interesting…especially considering they are the “law and order” crowd. Why do they not respect intellectual property rights? Oh…sorry I shouldn’t have use the word “intellectual” in reference to the GOP
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/77309/a_pattern_of_republicans_stealing_music_from_bands_who_don%27t_like_them/
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
5:51 pm
Recon — “Off to pick up my daughter. Play nice.”
Drive safely.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:51 pm
Uncle Jed,
“Well, as opposed to felt hats, no beavers died and the foil ones are recycleable. Go Green.”
And oh so space age modern…
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:52 pm
Cowboy, you ignored me when I told you about the Internet bubble. after he happened and I saw interest rates tumble, you scoffed at my prediction of the Real Estate bubble. Now I am telling you about the bailout bubble, and the result will be hyper-inflation, and there will be nowhere to go from there except the realization that cable TV and PS3 is not a god given right. And for some reason, I think there is a large percentage of the population that will not accept this fact casually.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:52 pm
Dave R..,
“Not according to reports coming out of the deficit reduction negotiations.”
Do tell…
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:54 pm
“Only because one party actually refuses to raise any taxes…or even to remove tax breaks”….
Ahh, laying the seeds to my class warfare prediction….
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:54 pm
Mr Charlie
@ 5.52…pray tell…what are you smoking?
Z
June 28th, 2011
5:55 pm
Bachmann is not ready for prime time and never will be. She is a religious fruitcake that has been blinded by the light. She is not crazy, but just another clueless wacky republican that has fallen for the radical right bologna that the fanatic fringe tries to promote.
She graduated from the last class of law students to get a degree from the Oral Roberts”religious” Law School. It then went out of business until it was taken up by another religious organization that took years to regain its accreditation..her degree about taxes was a couple of classes at William and Mary..There are lawyers and then there are lawyers. A news item the other day someone asked her about her and her husbands $250,000 Farm subsidies and she said she and her husband do not gain from their farm because it is a partnership with her Father in-law..what does she think a partnership is..her husband gains so she gains. She is a hypocrite or just plain dumb..She is always talking about how bad Government is but yet she always has her hand out for more and more Government handouts. I can’t imagine this wacky religious fruitcake having to deal with our domestic problems let alone Foreign ones.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:55 pm
We have 1/2 the people not paying any income taxes, and you really think that we need to tax those who are paying even more?
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
5:56 pm
“Do tell…”
Sorry, can’t. Let’s just say I have contact with a third-party “inside source”, and leave it at that.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:56 pm
Something tells me Mr. Charlie is off his Zyprexa.
Doggone/GA
June 28th, 2011
5:56 pm
” you really don’t see where this is going?”
I’d say a new “talking points” memo went out, and we’re getting “treated” to it one line at a time
Jackie
June 28th, 2011
5:57 pm
Heard news reports that indicate the US House refuse to remove subsidies for the oil industry.
How many of us believe the oil industry needs help from the taxpayers?
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
5:57 pm
jewcowboy — “Something tells me Mr. Charlie is off his Zyprexa.”
I LOLed
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:58 pm
Dave R.,
Tease…
Moderate Line
June 28th, 2011
5:59 pm
For the time being, people are enamored of Bachmann because she is saying things they like to hear (the same trend drove the early support for Herman Cain.) But like Cain, she is not someone to be taken seriously as a potential occupant of the White House.
++++
It’s hard for me to believe anyone would say that after Obama was elected with so little experience. She has six years of house experience while Obama had 4 years of Senate experience.
The bar is pretty low for being taken seriously.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:59 pm
Jewcowboy, You really think that we just need to tax the people who are actually paying taxes more, and everything will be hunky dory? What are you smoking?
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
6:02 pm
jewcowboy, if you also listen very carefully to some of the GOP leaders statements, you’ll hear lots of “no tax increase” talk, but virtually nothing on “no increase in revenues”.
The GOP will play ball on some subsidies and loopholes, but not on tax rates.
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
6:03 pm
Now it’s off to feed Bhudda . . .
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
6:03 pm
Mr. Charlie,
“What are you smoking?”
Nothing, unless you’re offering part of your stash. Of course, neither am I prattling on about “Mass inflation, devaluation of our currency, riots, violent protest and class warfare” like, well a Bachmann.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
6:07 pm
Moderate Line,
“The bar is pretty low for being taken seriously.”
Please show me 10 batshyte crazy quotes from Obama before he was elected. It can be about the specific candidate…Cynthia McKinney had 10 years in the House, but never garnered 18% of the Democrats support in her attempt at the White House.
Mighty Righty
June 28th, 2011
6:07 pm
Jay
June 28th, 2011
4:43 pm
Peadawg, Thulsa: The proof will be in the pudding, as my mother used to say (and still does).
Obama took on the Clinton machine and then the GOP and became president of the United States. Not bad, huh?
If Bachmann accomplishes the same feat, you’ll be right to compare them. But you know what?
Ain’t gonna happen.
Do you people REALLY believe she’d make a good president?
Yes or no answer please.
No. I do not think she would make a good president but that is not todays standard. Obama is the benchmark. Lady GaGa would do as well as Barry.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
6:09 pm
JC, lets see, you are talking about just increasing taxes on those who already pay taxes, and cutting spending. Like that is gonna happen. Now, what are YOU smoking?
Uncle Jed
June 28th, 2011
6:10 pm
Obama: Failure will out itself every time
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Poll: Voters not happy with Obama in debt talks
“As President Obama takes on a more active role in dealing with the federal budget deficit, a majority of voters disapprove of the way he is handling the issue, according to a new poll released Tuesday.
Sixty-one percent of registered voters nationally do not approve of how the president has addressed the situation, say results of the national McClatchy-Marist poll.
Fewer than one-third of voters — 31 percent — approve of his handling of the issue, while 8 percent say they aren’t sure.
Voters also are voicing their dissatisfaction over the president’s overall handling of the economy, the poll found. Only 37 percent say the president is doing a good job on the issue — an all-time low for Mr. Obama in the firm’s polling….”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/28/poll-voters-not-happy-obama-debt-talks/
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
6:11 pm
Mr. Charlie,
“you are talking about just increasing taxes on those who already pay taxes”
Please do not put words in my mouth like the lithium tabs you put in yours…
josef
June 28th, 2011
6:13 pm
jewcowboy
Tin hats are s-o-o-o-passe! Alumninum for that lighter feel…some say platinum, but that’s gauche and ostentatious and somewhat offensive in these strained economic times…no need to make yourself a target in the class warfare…
Peadawg
June 28th, 2011
6:14 pm
“Please show me 10 batshyte crazy quotes from Obama before he was elected.”
-57 States
-Obama bowls a 37 in Pennsylvania
-Seeing dead people in the audience on Memorial Day
-”You’re likeable enough, Hillary.”
-Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s
-”Let me introduce to you the next President — the next Vice President of the United States of America, Joe Biden.”
-Said his grandmother was a “typical white person”
-”You’re absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith…”
That’s 7…use google and you’ll probably be able to find more.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
6:15 pm
JC, do you think what is happening in Detroit is my imagination?
Do you think that JUST MAYBE, democratic policy, and the exact “take what is ours from the MAN” philosophy you still hold onto MIGHT have something to do with the condition of that city today?
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
6:15 pm
Why the insults JC, you cannot debate facts. Can you?
josef
June 28th, 2011
6:15 pm
Cynthia McKinney?
Now there’s the poster child for batshyte crazy!
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
6:18 pm
JC, do you think what is happening in Detroit is my imagination?
Do you think that JUST MAYBE, democratic policy, and the exact “take what is ours from the MAN” philosophy you still hold onto MIGHT have something to do with the condition of that city today?
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
6:19 pm
Peadawg @ 6.14,
Nice try…but I didn’t say “gaffes”, I said batshyte crazy quotes. You know…stuff he actually believes. Even then 5 out 8 (yes 8 not 7) aren’t even quotes. Lame..even for you.
Mighty Righty
June 28th, 2011
6:21 pm
Please show me 10 batshyte crazy quotes from Obama before he was elected.”
Here is just a few for your enjoyment.
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“We’re not trying to push financial reform because we begrudge success that’s fairly earned. I mean, I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money. But, you know, part of the American way is, you know, you can just keep on making it if you’re providing a good product or providing good service. We don’t want people to stop, ah, fulfilling the core responsibilities of the financial system to help grow our economy.” —on Wall Street reform, Quincy, Ill., April 29, 2010
“One such translator was an American of Haitian descent, representative of the extraordinary work that our men and women in uniform do all around the world — Navy Corpse-Man Christian Brossard.” –mispronouncing “Corpsman” (the “ps” is silent) during a speech at the National Prayer Breakfast, Washington, D.C., Feb. 5, 2010 (The Corpsman’s name is also Christopher, not Christian)
“The Middle East is obviously an issue that has plagued the region for centuries.” –Tampa, Fla., Jan. 28, 2010
“UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? It’s the Post Office that’s always having problems.” –attempting to make the case for government-run healthcare, while simultaneously undercutting his own argument, Portsmouth, N.H., Aug. 11, 2009
“The Cambridge police acted stupidly.” —commenting on a white police officer’s arrest of black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. at his home in Cambridge, Mass., at a news conference, July 22, 2009
“The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system.” –in remarks after a health care roundtable with physicians, nurses and health care providers, Washington, D.C., July 20, 2009
“It was also interesting to see that political interaction in Europe is not that different from the United States Senate. There’s a lot of — I don’t know what the term is in Austrian, wheeling and dealing.” –confusing German for “Austrian,” a language which does not exist, Strasbourg, France, April 6, 2009
“No, no. I have been practicing…I bowled a 129. It’s like — it was like Special Olympics, or something.” –making an off-hand joke during an appearance on “The Tonight Show”, March 19, 2009 (Obama later called the head of the Special Olympics to apologize)
“I didn’t want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about doing any seances.” –after saying he had spoken with all the living presidents as he prepared to take office, Washington, D.C., Nov. 7, 2008 (Obama later called Nancy Reagan to apologize)
“I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.” — defending his tax plan to Joe the Plumber, who argued that Obama’s policy hurts small-business owners like himself, Toledo, Ohio, Oct. 12, 2008
“What I was suggesting — you’re absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith…” –in an interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, who jumped in to correct Obama by saying “your Christian faith,” which Obama quickly clarified (Watch video clip)
“I’m here with the Girardo family here in St. Louis.” –speaking via satellite to the Democratic National Convention, while in Kansas City, Missouri, Aug. 25, 2008
“Let me introduce to you the next President — the next Vice President of the United States of America, Joe Biden.” –slipping up while introducing Joe Biden at their first joint campaign rally, Springfield, Illinois, Aug. 23, 2008
“Just this past week, we passed out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee — which is my committee — a bill to call for divestment from Iran as way of ratcheting up the pressure to ensure that they don’t obtain a nuclear weapon.” –referring to a committee he is not on, Sderot, Israel, July 23, 2008
“Let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s. It will be a strong friend of Israel’s under a McCain…administration. It will be a strong friend of Israel’s under an Obama administration. So that policy is not going to change.” –Amman, Jordan, July 22, 2008
“How’s it going, Sunshine?” –campaigning in Sunrise, Florida
“On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes — and I see many of them in the audience here today — our sense of patriotism is particularly strong.”
“Hold on one second, sweetie, we’re going to do — we’ll do a press avail.” –to a female reporter for ABC’s Detroit affiliate who asked about his plan to help American autoworkers (Watch video clip)
“I’ve now been in 57 states — I think one left to go.” –at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon (Watch video clip)
“Why can’t I just eat my waffle?” –after being asked a foreign policy question by a reporter while visiting a diner in Pennsylvania
“It’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” –explaining his troubles winning over some working-class voters
“The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn’t. But she is a typical white person, who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn’t know, you know, there’s a reaction that’s been bred in our experiences that don’t go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way, and that’s just the nature of race in our society.”
“Come on! I just answered, like, eight questions.” –exasperated by reporters after a news conference
“You’re likeable enough, Hillary.” –during a Democratic debate
“In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died — an entire town destroyed.” –on a Kansas tornado that killed 12 people
Strasbourg, France, April 6, 2009
“No, no. I have been practicing…I bowled a 129. It’s like — it was like Special Olympics, or something.” –making an off-hand joke during an appearance on “The Tonight Show”, March 19, 2009 (Obama later called the head of the Special Olympics to apologize)
“I didn’t want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about doing any seances.” –after saying he had spoken with all the living presidents as he prepared to take office, Washington, D.C., Nov. 7, 2008 (Obama later called Nancy Reagan to apologize)
“I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.” — defending his tax plan to Joe the Plumber, who argued that Obama’s policy hurts small-business owners like himself, Toledo, Ohio, Oct. 12, 2008
“What I was suggesting — you’re absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith…” –in an interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, who jumped in to correct Obama by saying “your Christian faith,” which Obama quickly clarified (Watch video clip)
“I’m here with the Girardo family here in St. Louis.” –speaking via satellite to the Democratic National Convention, while in Kansas City, Missouri, Aug. 25, 2008
“Let me introduce to you the next President — the next Vice President of the United States of America, Joe Biden.” –slipping up while introducing Joe Biden at their first joint campaign rally, Springfield, Illinois, Aug. 23, 2008
“Just this past week, we passed out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee — which is my committee — a bill to call for divestment from Iran as way of ratcheting up the pressure to ensure that they don’t obtain a nuclear weapon.” –referring to a committee he is not on, Sderot, Israel, July 23, 2008
“Let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s. It will be a strong friend of Israel’s under a McCain…administration. It will be a strong friend of Israel’s under an Obama administration. So that policy is not going to change.” –Amman, Jordan, July 22, 2008
“How’s it going, Sunshine?” –campaigning in Sunrise, Florida
“On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes — and I see many of them in the audience here today — our sense of patriotism is particularly strong.”
“Hold on one second, sweetie, we’re going to do — we’ll do a press avail.” –to a female reporter for ABC’s Detroit affiliate who asked about his plan to help American autoworkers (Watch video clip)
“I’ve now been in 57 states — I think one left to go.” –at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon (Watch video clip)
“Why can’t I just eat my waffle?” –after being asked a foreign policy question by a reporter while visiting a diner in Pennsylvania
“It’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” –explaining his troubles winning over some working-class voters
“The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn’t. But she is a typical white person, who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn’t know, you know, there’s a reaction that’s been bred in our experiences that don’t go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way, and that’s just the nature of race in our society.”
“Come on! I just answered, like, eight questions.” –exasperated by reporters after a news conference
“You’re likeable enough, Hillary.” –during a Democratic debate
“In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died — an entire town destroyed.” –on a Kansas tornado that killed 12 people
Kansas City, Missouri, Aug. 25, 2008
“Let me introduce to you the next President — the next Vice President of the United States of America, Joe Biden.” –slipping up while introducing Joe Biden at their first joint campaign rally, Springfield, Illinois, Aug. 23, 2008
“Just this past week, we passed out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee — which is my committee — a bill to call for divestment from Iran as way of ratcheting up the pressure to ensure that they don’t obtain a nuclear weapon.” –referring to a committee he is not on, Sderot, Israel, July 23, 2008
“Let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s. It will be a strong friend of Israel’s under a McCain…administration. It will be a strong friend of Israel’s under an Obama administration. So that policy is not going to change.” –Amman, Jordan, July 22, 2008
“How’s it going, Sunshine?” –campaigning in Sunrise, Florida
“On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes — and I see many of them in the audience here today — our sense of patriotism is particularly strong.”
“Hold on one second, sweetie, we’re going to do — we’ll do a press avail.” –to a female reporter for ABC’s Detroit affiliate who asked about his plan to help American autoworkers (Watch video clip)
“I’ve now been in 57 states — I think one left to go.” –at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon (Watch video clip)
“Why can’t I just eat my waffle?” –after being asked a foreign policy question by a reporter while visiting a diner in Pennsylvania
“It’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” –explaining his troubles winning over some working-class voters
“The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn’t. But she is a typical white person, who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn’t know, you know, there’s a reaction that’s been bred in our experiences that don’t go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way, and that’s just the nature of race in our society.”
“Come on! I just answered, like, eight questions.” –exasperated by reporters after a news conference
“You’re likeable enough, Hillary.” –during a Democratic debate
“In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died — an entire town destroyed.” –on a Kansas tornado that killed 12 people
Springfield, Illinois, Aug. 23, 2008
“Just this past week, we passed out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee — which is my committee — a bill to call for divestment from Iran as way of ratcheting up the pressure to ensure that they don’t obtain a nuclear weapon.” –referring to a committee he is not on, Sderot, Israel, July 23, 2008
“Let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s. It will be a strong friend of Israel’s under a McCain…administration. It will be a strong friend of Israel’s under an Obama administration. So that policy is not going to change.” –Amman, Jordan, July 22, 2008
“How’s it going, Sunshine?” –campaigning in Sunrise, Florida
“On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes — and I see many of them in the audience here today — our sense of patriotism is particularly strong.”
“Hold on one second, sweetie, we’re going to do — we’ll do a press avail.” –to a female reporter for ABC’s Detroit affiliate who asked about his plan to help American autoworkers (Watch video clip)
“I’ve now been in 57 states — I think one left to go.” –at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon (Watch video clip)
“Why can’t I just eat my waffle?” –after being asked a foreign policy question by a reporter while visiting a diner in Pennsylvania
“It’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” –explaining his troubles winning over some working-class voters
“The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn’t. But she is a typical white person, who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn’t know, you know, there’s a reaction that’s been bred in our experiences that don’t go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way, and that’s just the nature of race in our society.”
“Come on! I just answered, like, eight questions.” –exasperated by reporters after a news conference
“You’re likeable enough, Hillary.” –during a Democratic debate
“In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died — an entire town destroyed.” –on a Kansas tornado that killed 12 people
Israel, July 23, 2008
“Let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s. It will be a strong friend of Israel’s under a McCain…administration. It will be a strong friend of Israel’s under an Obama administration. So that policy is not going to change.” –Amman, Jordan, July 22, 2008
“How’s it going, Sunshine?” –campaigning in Sunrise, Florida
“On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes — and I see many of them in the audience here today — our sense of patriotism is particularly strong.”
“Hold on one second, sweetie, we’re going to do — we’ll do a press avail.” –to a female reporter for ABC’s Detroit affiliate who asked about his plan to help American autoworkers (Watch video clip)
“I’ve now been in 57 states — I think one left to go.” –at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon (Watch video clip)
“Why can’t I just eat my waffle?” –after being asked a foreign policy question by a reporter while visiting a diner in Pennsylvania
“It’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” –explaining his troubles winning over some working-class voters
“The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn’t. But she is a typical white person, who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn’t know, you know, there’s a reaction that’s been bred in our experiences that don’t go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way, and that’s just the nature of race in our society.”
“Come on! I just answered, like, eight questions.” –exasperated by reporters after a news conference
“You’re likeable enough, Hillary.” –during a Democratic debate
“In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died — an entire town destroyed.” –on a Kansas tornado that killed 12 people
Florida
“On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes — and I see many of them in the audience here today — our sense of patriotism is particularly strong.”
“Hold on one second, sweetie, we’re going to do — we’ll do a press avail.” –to a female reporter for ABC’s Detroit affiliate who asked about his plan to help American autoworkers (Watch video clip)
“I’ve now been in 57 states — I think one left to go.” –at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon (Watch video clip)
“Why can’t I just eat my waffle?” –after being asked a foreign policy question by a reporter while visiting a diner in Pennsylvania
“It’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” –explaining his troubles winning over some working-class voters
“The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn’t. But she is a typical white person, who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn’t know, you know, there’s a reaction that’s been bred in our experiences that don’t go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way, and that’s just the nature of race in our society.”
“Come on! I just answered, like, eight questions.” –exasperated by reporters after a news conference
“You’re likeable enough, Hillary.” –during a Democratic debate
“In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died — an entire town destroyed.” –on a Kansas tornado that killed 12 people
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
6:22 pm
Mr. Charlie,
“do you think what is happening in Detroit is my imagination? ”
No…but it also not “Mass inflation, devaluation of our currency, riots, violent protest and class warfare”.
“Do you think that JUST MAYBE, democratic policy, and the exact “take what is ours from the MAN” philosophy you still hold onto MIGHT have something to do with the condition of that city today?”
Been reading a little Ayn lately?
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
6:23 pm
Mr Charlie — “Do you think that JUST MAYBE, democratic policy, and the exact “take what is ours from the MAN” philosophy you still hold onto MIGHT have something to do with the condition of that city today?”
ZOMG here com the poar peepl to raip yr bank acct!!!11!!!!1111111!
josef
June 28th, 2011
6:23 pm
jewcowboy
@ 6:19
I wish some folks on both sides could just let go and enjoy the gaffes they (we) all make. They’re fun. That way they DON’T get confused with batshyte crazy stuff…
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
6:24 pm
Mr. Charlie,
“Why the insults JC, you cannot debate facts. Can you?”
Perhaps when you provide something other than “Mass inflation, devaluation of our currency, riots, violent protest and class warfare” as well as Detroit ala Ayn Rand I’ll debate you…but facts do not seem to be in your repertoire…only exaggeration and conjecture.
Peadawg
June 28th, 2011
6:25 pm
“Nice try”
Aw I’m sorry jewcowboy. Mad I actually found some? Too bad.
Peadawg
June 28th, 2011
6:26 pm
“I wish some folks on both sides could just let go and enjoy the gaffes they (we) all make. They’re fun.”
Bingo.
josef
June 28th, 2011
6:26 pm
mighty righty
A link would serve the purpose…and, yes, I would have gone to it…
F. Sinkwich
June 28th, 2011
6:26 pm
Good to see Jay got the DNC email:
“…Bachmann is getting traction. Trash her as a lunatic. Use words like ‘wacky.’ Get quotes from disgruntled former staffers…”
You forgot to mention the strongest argument she has to use against Obama, Jay: She’s a free market capitalist opposing a president steeped in European socialist dogma approaching Marxism.
The choice between to two is easy.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
6:27 pm
josef,
“Now there’s the poster child for batshyte crazy!”
Look at the eyes:
http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/7/2011/06/xlarge_bachmann.jpg
http://hotair.cachefly.net/mm/mckin.jpg
Crazy eyes…both of them.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
6:31 pm
Joe, again, no answer, just an insult. What a weakling you are.
josef
June 28th, 2011
6:32 pm
jewcowboy
I couldn’t get the second one…who was it?
And those eyes remind me of Village of the Damned!
godless heathen
June 28th, 2011
6:33 pm
Bachmann as Veep might serve the same critical role as Biden. Complete safety for the President.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
6:33 pm
Mighty Righty @ 6.21,
Again…I did not ask for gaffes. I readily admit all public people make recordable gaffes,and Obama is not excluded. But what I am seeking is statements that are part of a belief system that Obama espouses..not a misstatement. An example would be most Bushism’s were gaffes…not batshyte crazy statements.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
6:34 pm
josef,
“That way they DON’T get confused with batshyte crazy stuff…”
Bingo!
bman
June 28th, 2011
6:35 pm
anyone but obama, please
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
6:35 pm
JAY:
Just when I think your bias can stoop any lower ………………………
But alas, I digress.
What the heck is this? Unless there is something the government is keeping under wraps this article should strike fear in the heart of every American ……………. all while illiegal aliens roam our streets !
Headline: “Vet Checks Wrong Box, Faces Charges”
Army, Navy Photographer Accused Of Passport Fraud
http://www.news4jax.com/news/28373245/detail.html
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
6:35 pm
Excuse me: “can’t stoop any lower”
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
6:36 pm
F. Sinkwich
“She’s a free market capitalist opposing a president steeped in European socialist dogma approaching Marxism.”
Except when she’s accepting $250K in farm subsidies…
bookthief
June 28th, 2011
6:36 pm
It would be wonderful if Michele went all the way!!! Obama would make her cry real tears and we’d get to keep a rational person four more years. You go girl, God luv, ya.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
6:37 pm
josef,
“I couldn’t get the second one…who was it?”
Mckinny..same crazy damn eyes….
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
6:37 pm
Headline: “Michele Bachmann’s thin legislative résumé”
……………. as compared to the “community organizer” ?
The bias of the left wing press is astounding.
josef
June 28th, 2011
6:37 pm
I don’t quite get it from the anti Obama crowd…is he all powerful and leading us down the road to perdition or is he all incompetent leading us down the road to perdition. And, no, I don’t think he’s leading us down the road to salvation either.
I think he’s spectacularly mediocre and leading us down the road to spectacular mediocrity…jmo
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
6:38 pm
Headline: “Pooper snoopers demand dog DNA
“A New Hampshire apartment complex is requiring that residents submit pet DNA samples. Why? To check if any of them are leaving their dogs’ waste on the property.”
Any of you libs. want to apply to be the “Poop PoPo” ??
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
6:39 pm
josef:
………………… and they will come for “you” first.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
6:39 pm
When then knock on your front door, how you gonna come, with your hands on your head or the trigger of the gun?
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
6:39 pm
Headline: WASHINGTON — “The passage of historic legislation legalizing same sex marriage in the state of New York last Friday was owed in large part to a compelling political motivator: MONEY (emphasis added)”
Why is the above not surprising ?
I Timothy 6:10
“For the LOVE (emphasis added) of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.”
“Wickedness arrays itself in beautiful clothes and even imitates the language of holiness.”
Charles Spurgeon
Keep Up the Good Fight!
June 28th, 2011
6:40 pm
Any of you libs. want to apply to be the “Poop PoPo” ??
Naw Scout, that clearly is below our pay grade. Right up your alley though. Hope you can handle it as well as you shovel it.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
6:41 pm
josef,
“I think he’s spectacularly mediocre and leading us down the road to spectacular mediocrity…”
I couldn’t have said it better myself…bravo!
F. Sinkwich
June 28th, 2011
6:41 pm
Cowboy:
“Except when she’s accepting $250K in farm subsidies…”
Assuming that’s true, did she break the law?
bman
June 28th, 2011
6:41 pm
Josef – he’s in over his head. I’m shocked that democrats aren’t lining up to run against this guy
Doggone/GA
June 28th, 2011
6:43 pm
“Assuming that’s true, did she break the law?”
It isn’t neccessary to be a law-breaker to be a hypocrite
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
6:43 pm
Mr Righty — “Joe, again, no answer, just an insult.”
First, you didn’t ask me a question. Therefore I owe you no answer.
Secondly, I didn’t insult you.
Thirdly, you might make a fun internet chew-toy, since I’ve apparently gotten under your skin. (laughing, pointing)
“What a weakling you are.”
Given your inaccuracies in your first sentence, I wasn’t holding out much hope for your second to be any better. And you didn’t disappoint! (giggling)
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
6:44 pm
I think he’s spectacularly mediocre and leading us down the road to spectacular mediocrity…jmo
And in American in 2012, Mediocre is good enough, that is why he will win in 2012.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
June 28th, 2011
6:44 pm
February 2010, Bachmann said the GOP’s 2012 nominee would need to be forthright with the American public about the need to “wean everybody off” Medicare and Social Security. Bachmann voted for the GOP’s plan to end Medicare, even though she later admitted she was concerned about the $6,000+ in additional annual health care costs that the plan would shift to seniors.
___________________________
First step will be to wean Bachmann off the delusions.
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
6:44 pm
Correction — above response is for Mr Charlie.
It gets so difficult to tell the cons apart these days. (laughing)
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
6:45 pm
Mr. Charlie,
“When then knock on your front door, how you gonna come, with your hands on your head or the trigger of the gun?”
Let’s hope that it isn’t a Jehovah’s witness knocking on your door. Zyprexa is your friend.
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
6:46 pm
Mr Charlie — “When then knock on your front door, how you gonna come, with your hands on your head or the trigger of the gun?”
You can crush us, you can bruise us, but you’ll have to answer to . . . the guns of Brixton.
F. Sinkwich
June 28th, 2011
6:46 pm
“I think he’s spectacularly mediocre and leading us down the road to spectacular mediocrity…jmo”
I think you’re giving him too much credit.
He’s destroying this country.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
6:47 pm
F. Sinkwich,
“Assuming that’s true, did she break the law?”
Assuming you are totally paranoid and can actually read, I didn’t say she broke the law and that wasn’t what your post was about…it was about being a free-market capitalist. Who is this case accepts $250k in farm subsidies…
josef
June 28th, 2011
6:48 pm
bman
I won’t go for over his head…up to his waist, for sure…
Scout
Yep. The money. Gay folks and their friends figured it out and paid off your much beloved “good Christians” and GOP who voted against it before to vote for it this time…
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
6:48 pm
You libs are a hoot for sure. Been here for an hour and have not hear a single idea or original thought. Just “tax the rich”….Yawn. Like that’s gonna cure it all.
MarkV
June 28th, 2011
6:49 pm
1811/1801 – 0311/0317 @6:37 pm
‘Headline: “Michele Bachmann’s thin legislative résumé”
……………. as compared to the “community organizer” ?’
Nobody has told you of anything of Obama’s career between being community organizer and being elected President?
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
6:49 pm
Scout,
Still going on about NY huh? Well here is a rebuttal for every argument you can make: http://www.madatoms.com/site/blog/what-your-opposition-to-gay-marriage-really-means
F. Sinkwich
June 28th, 2011
6:49 pm
“It isn’t neccessary to be a law-breaker to be a hypocrite”
Sort of like the lib ilk paying their taxes (the few that do pay taxes) based on the Bush tax rates?
Tax cuts for the rich, ya know.
Doggone/GA
June 28th, 2011
6:50 pm
” have not hear a single idea or original thought”
You get back what you give, around here
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
6:50 pm
F. Sink, I have to say it, but GW destroyed this country. He was pres 8 years and our financial system Collapsed. I mean, it effing collapsed. Unfortunately we refuse to take your medicine, so we are just rolling it all into the next bubble, just doubling down….It should be interesting.
F. Sinkwich
June 28th, 2011
6:51 pm
Hey, Cowboy, if you paid any income taxes, did you use the Clinton rate structure, or the Bush rates for the rich?
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
6:52 pm
F. Sinkwich,
“He’s destroying this country.”
You would have made a great vaudevillian…to bad it’s gone. So much DRAMA.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
6:52 pm
I GOT AN IDEA!!!! LET TAX THE RICH!!! I just can’t believe the answer has been under our nose so long.
Disgusted
June 28th, 2011
6:53 pm
What is “it”? Mass inflation, devaluation of our currency, riots, violent protest and class warfare.
You haven’t seen violent protest and riots until you try to steal my Medicare and SS, cons. As for the rest, we already have class warfare, largely because the wealthy among us have tried to use tax policy as a means of fattening their wallets, and the devaluation of the currency is only a matter of time, as a desperate banking system tries to survive the onslaught of Republican hatred.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
6:53 pm
JC, did you still have your Webvan stock? Cause once we tax them dummy rich guys, I am sure it will come back.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
6:53 pm
Doggone/GA,
“You get back what you give, around here”
C’mon…Mr. Charlie did advocate shooting any one who knocks on your door…that’s something right?
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
6:54 pm
“anyone but obama, please”
Quickly becoming the most trite ripost to this unenviable situation.
Some spammer has an extremely liberal (”slur” intended) definition of the word gaffe. Cheese, Louise.
Everybody I’ve ever known has put their foot in their big mouth sooner or later. Just a matter of when and how often.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwVAvnYKLJE
F. Sinkwich
June 28th, 2011
6:55 pm
Yep, Charlie, your man Obama the messiah has done everything right. Just because everything now is still sh*t hasn’t got anything what so ever to do with him at all, huh?
Libroolery, delusion is thy salve.
Doggone/GA
June 28th, 2011
6:56 pm
“Mr. Charlie did advocate shooting any one who knocks on your door…that’s something right?”
It’s something, but it’s not original. Isn’t it Dave R. who rants on about the government taking you do jail at gun-point if you don’t pay your health insurance, or something like that?
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
6:56 pm
F. Sinkwich,
“did you use the Clinton rate structure, or the Bush rates for the rich?”
I used the appropriate 1040 form at the time…whatever that may have been. Though since mr. nonjewcowboy and I couldn’t marry at the time of his death, I did pay income taxes on his life insurance. Part of that there gay tax.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
6:57 pm
jewcowboy and josef:
So then ………… we don’t want a mediocre president next time now do we ?
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
6:57 pm
Hey jcb, howz that hot rod rollin’?
josef
June 28th, 2011
6:58 pm
Well, do like we do. Turn the lights out and don’t answer…
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
6:58 pm
Now JC, your putting words in my mouth, I did not advocate anything, I just asked a simple question. And I think is a valid question since you advocate asset forfeiture as a way out of deficit spending.
Mighty Righty
June 28th, 2011
6:58 pm
“Except when she’s accepting $250K in farm subsidies…”
Here are the facts. Her father inlaw owns a farm in Wisconsin and he has received “farm subsidies.” She and her husband’s names appear on the farms papers. She denies that she or her husband had ever made any money on that farm. Grasping at straws. I would rather talk about how if you will give Obama $750,000 he will make you a federal judge.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
6:59 pm
“Well, do like we do. Turn the lights out and don’t answer”…I figured that.
josef
June 28th, 2011
6:59 pm
Scout
I didn’t want him the first time.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
6:59 pm
josef: As I said, “the ‘love” of money is the root of all evil”.
MarkV:
Of course I am aware …………. and it’s not better than Bachmann’s …………… just different. Yet the liberal press would never dared of emphasized that during the last campaign.
Thus ……….. the hypocrisy.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
7:00 pm
Mr. Charlie,
“did you still have your Webvan stock?”
Webvan…no…but since it’s not 2001, I do I suggest 3rd Avenue fund if you have at least $100k to invest…
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
7:00 pm
Well, this reminds me of the choice we might have had if we knew the Japanese were planning Pearl Harbor and we had a chance at all of their carriers in port just before they left for the raid .
“AIR RAID PEARH HARBOR. THIS IS NO DRILL”
Pay me now …………… or pay me later:
Headline: “Iran test fires long-range missiles capable of striking Israel, U.S. bases…”
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
7:01 pm
Scout,
“So then ………… we don’t want a mediocre president next time now do we ?”
Preferably not…but I’ll take mediocre over batshyte crazy.
josef
June 28th, 2011
7:03 pm
SCOUT
But I would’ve thought Obama was your man in this…state’s rights and all…that’s is latest “evolved” position on equal marriage rights…you been sending him a few bucks on the side we don’t know about?
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
7:03 pm
AmVet,
“Hey jcb, howz that hot rod rollin’?”
Freaking awesome…did I tell you I got to try it out at Talladega?
BADA BING
June 28th, 2011
7:04 pm
I am amazed at the class structures we have in the US now. If you have a long time job making good money, you have not been hurt AT ALL by the economy. Go out on the weekend, bars are full, restaurants are full, the malls are full. I wait in line at any eating joint on Fri. or Sat. nite. The unemployed are living with their parents, or vice versa. Foreclosures, bankruptcies, unemployment at an all time high. It is truly 2 different countries, all on the same block. I prepared for this slump for 20 years, I am enjoying life. Some people will lose an entire decade.
Doggone/GA
June 28th, 2011
7:04 pm
“we don’t want a mediocre president next time now do we ?””
If we had the sense to elect outstanding people to Congress, it wouldn’t matter if the President was mediocre or brilliant.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
7:06 pm
Mr. Charlie,
“And I think is a valid question since you advocate asset forfeiture as a way out of deficit spending.”
The intent of your “question” was patently obvious as was this follow-up post as have been your previous posts about guns…
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
7:07 pm
jewcowboy:
…………… and I’ll risk “batshyte crazy” over “known dangerous”.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
7:08 pm
BADA BING,
Your 7.02…quite salient.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
7:10 pm
josef:
As I told someone yesterday I think, some issues are “states rights” and some are not.
Free speech, search and seizure, the draft, right to an attorney, and in my opinion what should constiltute marriage are all too important to be left to the individual states ………….. therefore I support a Constitutional Amendment defining marriage as between one man and one woman.
Now that said, you know this Republic is a state’s rights Republic don’t you (and it has nothing to do with the 10 Amendment) ?
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
7:11 pm
Doggone:
Some truth in that. At least it would lessen the impact of a “knucklehead” president.
Doggone/GA
June 28th, 2011
7:13 pm
“Some truth in that. At least it would lessen the impact of a “knucklehead” president.”
Sadly, the opposite is not true
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
7:13 pm
Love of capitalism based on legally cooking the books is more than the root of evil, it might just have been foretold:
…corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.
Some b*tch about the poor slobs making 27K/year and paying “nothing” in. OK, so it sucks, but what are you gonna get from that individual? Another lousy $500 to a G? Nothing from nothing…
Yet we have countless mega-corporations who also pay nothing in fed income tax. And I assure you, you could get more a thousand bucks from each of them.
And why not? They enjoy the bounty of this country and all the benefits therein. And some now deem them “persons” anyway! How screwed up is that? So by their own argument, they should pay, especially if individuals do.
Our tax code is a pernicious and perverse travesty…
Mighty Righty
June 28th, 2011
7:14 pm
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
6:50 pm
F. Sink, I have to say it, but GW destroyed this country. He was pres 8 years and our financial system Collapsed. I mean, it effing collapsed. Unfortunately we refuse to take your medicine, so we are just rolling it all into the next bubble, just doubling down….It should be interesting.
You missed the boat. The time for blaming W is over. That boat has already sailed. Barack is now the skipper. The boat is his and it is leaking like mad. He is clueless as to what to do. His solution is to spend more money but we ain’t got it. He devalued our currency. Actually he isn’t smart enough to devalue it but he let Geitner do it so same o same o. Unemployment up 15%+, food up 30%, gasoline up 100% all on his watch, all on his boat. Hope and change is now is now read it and weep. He put everything in the pot and drew to an inside straight while the man across the table was holding four aces. Stupid is as stupid does.
josef
June 28th, 2011
7:15 pm
Scout
If you think that marriage should be defined by the federal body, good. That means that it won’t be much longer before me and Unmentionable can legally tie the knot here in Georgia…all we gotta do is pay off a few G-d fearing GOPers, and we’re on our way…so, I’ll go in your corner on that one…
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
7:15 pm
The bottom line: Muslims aren’t happy!
They’re not happy in Gaza.
They’re not happy in Egypt.
They’re not happy in Libya.
They’re not happy in Morocco.
They’re not happy in Iran.
They’re not happy in Iraq.
They’re not happy in Yemen.
They’re not happy in Afghanistan.
They’re not happy in Pakistan.
They’re not happy in Syria.
They’re not happy in Lebanon.
And where are they happy?
They’re happy in England.
They’re happy in France.
They’re happy in Italy.
They’re happy in Germany.
They’re happy in Sweden.
They’re happy in the USA.
They’re happy in Norway.
They’re happy in every country that is not Islamic (yet).
And who do they blame?
Not Islam.
Not their leadership.
Not themselves.
THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN.
midtownguy
June 28th, 2011
7:16 pm
I love Michele. Love her, love her, lover her. Praying she gets the nomination. Michele getting the nomination = second term for Obama. My old guard Republican friends are squirming in their seats. Only Romney or Chris Christie and beat Obama.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
7:16 pm
Scout,
“therefore I support a Constitutional Amendment defining marriage as between one man and one woman.”
Sorry (not really) to disappoint…that will NEVER happen. In fact, the opposite will happen…Loving v. Virginia will be the reality soon than later…
The good news is that will impact your life in absolutely no way…
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
7:17 pm
josef:
I hear you but what about my “states rights’ comment.
This country is a “States Rights Republic” ………… yes ?
poison pen
June 28th, 2011
7:17 pm
Jay
“It is easy to tell who the looney left fears. They immediately use personal attacks.”
U gotta love it.
Jay, are you on meds today? you start your blog attacking someone and then chastize others for doing the same thing.
Grow up !
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
7:19 pm
midtownguy,
“I love Michele. Love her, love her, lover her. ”
She is good for a chuckle…
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
7:19 pm
With Ricky Bobby, jcb?
What a gas that must have been.
And please, no dumb constitutional amendments.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
7:19 pm
jewcowboy:
You are probably right. A study of world history shows that all governments/peoples/civilizations degenerate over time. It’s just a natual progression.
And you are correct in that it won’t impact me ………… that’s not my point. It will impact my grandchildren and great-grandchildren and that is my concern at this stage of my life.
Doggone/GA
June 28th, 2011
7:21 pm
“lover her.”
Maybe someone should let her husband know what she’s up to.
Mr Right
June 28th, 2011
7:21 pm
Except when she’s accepting $250K in farm subsidies…”
Which she did NOT do!
Doggone/GA
June 28th, 2011
7:25 pm
“Which she did NOT do”
“Bachmann also stated that she or husband never made a penny from the family dairy farm, but her financial disclosure forms report that from 2006-2009 she made $32,503-$105,000 in profit off of the farm”
http://www.politicususa.com/en/bachmann-dairy-farm
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
7:25 pm
Mr. Right,
“Which she did NOT do!”
Oh yes… it was her in-laws…in which she and her husband are partners. Care to provide a legal definition for “partners” in a business venture?
Disgusted
June 28th, 2011
7:25 pm
This country is a “States Rights Republic” ………… yes ?
We old-timers understand that comment, Scout. I understood it when I stood in bus stations in the early ’60s with doors reading “Colored Only.” Most of us who’ve been around the block know what a Southerner means when he acclaims “states rights.” Thank God there’s a U.S. Constitution.
midtownguy
June 28th, 2011
7:27 pm
Regardless of what she did or did not get personally, do you think she is such a fiscal conservative that she would work to end farm subsidies that are netting her in-laws a million dollars every four years?
josef
June 28th, 2011
7:28 pm
Scout
Of course I am aware of the origninal intent on the relationship of the federal versus states. I just find it intriguing that you want to bring the feds into something as “holy” as marriage and the Obama wants to go states’ rights…methinks the world has shifted on its axis or that y’all are both mealy mouthed weasels more than willing to sell out your “principles” when it suits your aim…and as for your grandkids and great grandkids…I hope they’re happier in the world they will help make than you are in the one you helped make…
Mr Right
June 28th, 2011
7:29 pm
Doggone/GA
June 28th, 2011
7:25 pm
I would say if she has a dairy farm can’t be much profit there!
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
7:29 pm
AmVet,
“With Ricky Bobby, jcb?”
Nah…just the baby jesus as my co-pilot. But let a driver named Danny Efland take it out with me as a passenger…he freaking showed what that car is capable of. Amazing…
josef
June 28th, 2011
7:30 pm
DISGUSTED
Don’t fall prey to your own prejudices. Not every Southerner who understands what is meant by states’ rights is of that school…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
June 28th, 2011
7:30 pm
Scout, you do put out a lot of nonsense deceptively disguised as “fact”. 1st hor are you measuing “happiness”? Evidence? you also conveniently left out a lot of other muslim countries. Wikipedia lists 47 Muslim majority countries.
Does your nonsense drive your hatred or does your hatred blind your ability to comprehend your nonsense?
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
7:31 pm
Disgusted,
“Thank God there’s a U.S. Constitution”
And a 14th amendment.
Bruno
June 28th, 2011
7:32 pm
Though since mr. nonjewcowboy and I couldn’t marry at the time of his death, I did pay income taxes on his life insurance. Part of that there gay tax.
I think you may be confused on that point, jcb. If you were the named beneficiary, and you didn’t purchase the policy on his behalf, then no taxes are due.
http://militaryfinance.umuc.edu/estate/estateplan_taxes.html
Though you feel singled out for being gay, if you think about it, ALL single people are discriminated against in terms of taxes and other benefits that married people enjoy.
Doggone/GA
June 28th, 2011
7:32 pm
“I would say if she has a dairy farm can’t be much profit there!”
Or, in other words, you can’t refute that she reported a profit from the farm she said she did not profit from. AKA: she lied
josef
June 28th, 2011
7:35 pm
“Though you feel singled out for being gay, if you think about it, ALL single people are discriminated against in terms of taxes and other benefits that married people enjoy.”
Except for one little devilish detail…they choose to be single. Jewcowboy didn’t and neither do I.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
June 28th, 2011
7:36 pm
Renowned rocker Tom Petty hit Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann with a cease-and-desist letter Monday following the congresswoman’s decision to close out her campaign announcement to the tune of “American Girl,” Rolling Stone reports.
________________________
My suggestion for Bachmann….http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqUa_G1h3pw
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
7:36 pm
There’s nothing better than that feeling of going really fast, is there?
Until you get scared ________.
Now I’m more of a…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euP525DpvHM
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
7:37 pm
This blog is a disgrace to the average American who does not spend time trying to ruin the reputation of political Americans.
Here is a woman well educated, experienced in law and government, protector of children, a fighter fro “rights’ and all you can hear here is words like batshyte crazy, wackiness, and on and on.
What’s with you people? You want decent people to run our country yet you treat anyone who tries
like dirt? I mean you have spent the entire afternoon here acting like you are mud wrestling. Bookman is the only one with an excuse. He gets paid to do it.
You are a diappointment, the pure brakes on the advancement of our country. I think you can do better if you try. I hope so.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
7:39 pm
Bruno,
“I think you may be confused on that point, jcb.”
I make to claim to be a tax expert…but I ended up writing a checks to the IRS and State of GA in the amount totally $323,619 after the estate was settled…an amount I would not have paid if we were a straight married couple. my tax attorney assured me Trust me when I say I remember that exact sum.
Doggone/GA
June 28th, 2011
7:39 pm
“This blog is a disgrace ”
blogspot.com is ready whenever you think you can do better
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
7:40 pm
josef,
“they choose to be single. Jewcowboy didn’t and neither do I.”
Bingo!
Bruno
June 28th, 2011
7:41 pm
they choose to be single
Well, some people are just butt-ugly.
Mr Right
June 28th, 2011
7:42 pm
“I would say if she has a dairy farm can’t be much profit there!”
Or, in other words, you can’t refute that she reported a profit from the farm she said she did not profit from. AKA: she lied
Nope can’t refute it and don’t care! If she indeed took subsidies is that breaking the law ? I thought yall bleeding heart libs would be happy to give someone else money away.
josef
June 28th, 2011
7:44 pm
jewcowboy
Right now Unmentionable and I are taking care of some paperwork on one of those loose end ones.. Know what our problem is? Will the loss due to taxes be more or less than what we’ll have to pay the lawyer and all the filing fees, etc. One little piece of paper and none of it would be necessary…
Doggone/GA
June 28th, 2011
7:44 pm
“If she indeed took subsidies is that breaking the law ? ”
As I said earlier, it isn’t neccessary to be a law breaker to be a hypocrite. Or a liar.
Rev. Johnson
June 28th, 2011
7:44 pm
Liberal Democrats are sexist and two-faced! They hate conservative women and Blacks..it’s a fact! Democrats have a long history of being in the KKK, radical black and Muslim loving and anti-America. The worst haters in the world are liberal Democrats! They will answer for the millions of aborted children one day bfore the God they hate!
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
7:44 pm
Dusty,
“This blog is a disgrace ”
Then why are you here with your 2 cents?
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
7:47 pm
Thank you, Doggone, for your usual information. You truly represent the “feeling” of this blog.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
7:48 pm
Mr. Right,
“If she indeed took subsidies is that breaking the law ”
I think you are confused. No one is saying she broke the law. The statement that began this was, “She’s a free market capitalist opposing a president steeped in European socialist dogma approaching Marxism.”
How does taking farm subsidies equate to a free market capitalist?
Doggone/GA
June 28th, 2011
7:48 pm
“Then why are you here with your 2 cents?”
Because it’s easier to be critical than it is to be better?
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
7:49 pm
I might ask you the same thing, jewcowboy,
Why are you here fussing about your finances and tax matters? Is it helpful to tell the world about your troubles on a political blog? Is that your two cents worth?
josef
June 28th, 2011
7:50 pm
Yeah, but the law doesn’t prohibit the butt ugly from getting married and procreating…
getalife
June 28th, 2011
7:51 pm
She is a dingbat way out of her league.
A train wreck and horrible in the house.
Always tow the party line like a good little con.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
June 28th, 2011
7:51 pm
Rev Johnson: Democrats have a long history of being in the KKK
Now, now, be a good little preacher and go back and read the history of the KKK. Its not limited to Dems.
josef
June 28th, 2011
7:52 pm
Whoa! Dusty’s here with PMS… (okay, Doggone, I know, I know…but, well…just slap me!)
Doggone/GA
June 28th, 2011
7:53 pm
“okay, Doggone, I know, I know…but, well…just slap me!)”
How about a joke instead?
“I have PMS and a gun. Any questions?”
getalife
June 28th, 2011
7:55 pm
“Whoa! Dusty’s here with PMS”
Typical Dusty.
Should have read her in the Iraq debate.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
7:55 pm
josef,
“One little piece of paper and none of it would be necessary…”
Amazing isn’t it? That one little piece of paper would have had the entire State Dept. behind me to help me get Noah back from Dubai…instead I had to have his family and the Dubai Municipality gov’t help me. Our State department treated me as if I was nothing but an acquaintance. Never mind the thousands of dollars we spent getting lawyers to try to make us “spouses”.
I will never forgive Obama, Republicans, the voters of this state or ANYONE that caused that caused the anguish for me and for his family. They can all rot in the hell of their own bigotry and narcissism.
josef
June 28th, 2011
7:55 pm
Doggone
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
7:56 pm
Keep, it’s still timeless, isn’t it?
Bruno, that’s mean. But funny.
Dusty, I’m not sure how you can even see us looking down that long nose of yours!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7jZeXvpyZQ
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
7:57 pm
Disgusted and josef:
Alas ……. you miss my point as usual.
I too grew up in the segregated South but I hated or personally discriminated against no one. In fact, I went out of my way to be polite to all. During the late 60’s I was more concerned with fighting next to my black buddies (who would have given their lives for me and vice versa) just to keep the NVA from overrunning us. I guess you would have had to have been there to really appreciate that commraderie.
In any case, what I meant by this Republic being a true “states rights republic” is that WORSE CASE SCENARIO, under the provisions of the Constitution the “states” have the right to call a Constitlutional Convention and by doing so they can amend the Constiltution and trump ANYTHING the president, Congress or the Supreme Court may have done or have plans to do.
It is the FINAL check and balance of the people short of revolution.
But due to your own prejudicies you assume the worse.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
7:57 pm
Dusty,
“I might ask you the same thing, ”
Because I didn’t write something like, “This blog is a disgrace…”
josef
June 28th, 2011
7:57 pm
jewcowboy
“They can all rot in the hell of their own bigotry and narcissism”
And I second that emotion.
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
7:58 pm
Well, JOSEF, This blog is enough to give even you PMS. Seems you are familiar with it. Most of the “gentlemen” here seem to have a thing of their own. BBB? (Blocked Brains on Blogs)?
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
7:59 pm
jewcowboy:
You like the 14th Amendment? I do too.
Do you think all Amendments should be supported equally ?
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
8:00 pm
Jewcowboy,
You SHOULD be writing “this blog is a disgrace”. That’s a fact. Not “fancy”.
josef
June 28th, 2011
8:00 pm
SCOUT
Still your jerking knee and go back and read what I had to say to Disgusted…
“But due to your own prejudicies you assume the worse.”
josef
June 28th, 2011
8:03 pm
DUSTY
Even sweet, little ole charming witty intellectual and sensitive me has got better sense than to tangle with YOU on PMS…
Uncle Billy
June 28th, 2011
8:03 pm
As a Democrat I say, GO MICHELE! I hope you get the nomination.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
8:03 pm
LITTLE GIRL ON A PLANE
“An atheist was seated next to a little girl on an airplane and he turned to her
and said, “Do you want to talk? Flights go quicker if you strike up a
conversation with your fellow passenger.”
The little girl, who had just started to read her book, replied to the total
stranger, “What would you want to talk about?”
Oh, I don’t know,” said the atheist. “How about why there is no God, or no
Heaven or Hell, or no life after death?” as he smiled smugly.
“OK,” she said. “Those could be interesting topics but let me ask you a question
first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff – grass. Yet a deer
excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, but a horse
produces clumps. Why do you suppose that is?”
The atheist, visibly surprised by the little girl’s intelligence, thinks about it and says,
“Hmmm, I have no idea.”
To which the little girl replies, “Do you really feel qualified to discuss why
there is no God, or no Heaven or Hell, or no life after death, when you don’t
know sh*t?”
And then she went back to reading her book”
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
8:05 pm
AMVET,
Behold, the original discontent of all times, has to comment.. Play us a song , Amvet, and tell us about the joy! That seems to make you happy.
Uncle Billy
June 28th, 2011
8:05 pm
1811/1801 etc. That is the fourteenth time I have seen that joke. Try to come up with something original.
Bruno
June 28th, 2011
8:08 pm
I was hoping HD would check in to see this first pitch thrown by a performer from Cirque du Soleil. Kind of like WWF meets MLB:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Cirque-du-Soleil-performer-gets-nutty-with-Padre?urn=mlb-wp10971
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
8:09 pm
“A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff – grass. Yet a deer
excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, but a horse
produces clumps. Why do you suppose that is?”
You know, I cain’t say they’s a day what’s gone by what I ain’t worried about that there same thang! Why, it’s just plumb beyond imaginin’?
Gator Joe
June 28th, 2011
8:09 pm
Jay,
Even Republicans aren’t stupid enough or fatalistic enough to make a Bachman, a Palin, a Perry or a Cain their nominee. Perhaps they’ll prove me wrong, I sure hope so.
PS
Bachmann is living proof that one can be educated, while not being intelligent.
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
June 28th, 2011
8:12 pm
Has she ever thought there were 57 states? Apologized to the good people of Vienna for not being able to speak “Austrian”? The list goes on and on. She could be comatose and be more qualified than the Dear Leader.
It will be interesting to hear your complaints about each Republican candidate. Going to take a lot of work, given how many there are, and likely to be more. Everybody knows they can be a better President than this clown (he does have the ears for a circus job).
Doggone/GA
June 28th, 2011
8:13 pm
“Bachmann is living proof that one can be educated, while not being intelligent”
Heck, a computer proves that!
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
8:13 pm
JOSEF.
Some one is using your Id. I mean “sweet, charming intellectual anad witty???
Will the real honest JOSEF please return? For a moment, I thought that was getalife posting.
josef
June 28th, 2011
8:14 pm
ZamVet
I’ll do it for you…if that’s okay with Dusty…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe1ScoePqVA
out of the blue
June 28th, 2011
8:16 pm
This just out.
Does Bachmann have any scruples?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43570552/ns/politics-decision_2012/
Keep Up the Good Fight!
June 28th, 2011
8:16 pm
Amvet….its a classic that never dies.
Bachmann Clinic received medicaid payments for over 6 years…..someone’s got some weaning to do.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
8:17 pm
josef:
Sorry ………………………………
!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zANvYB93u2g&feature=related
josef
June 28th, 2011
8:19 pm
DUSTY
Just knows my place…me and jewcowboy..
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
8:19 pm
Jay
June 28th, 2011
5:23 pm
Thulsa, GM was doomed without the money and nobody seriously disputes that. Do you think the stockholders ended up with nothing and the executive team agreed to leave because they could have survived without the money?- Jay,
Wrong Jay. Lots of people seriously dispute that. GM would most likely have filed chapter 13 reorganization bankruptcy. That doesn’t mean they would be out- they just would have restructured or merged with someone else. To cavalierly state that they were completely done without fed money is simply wrong.
2 more points to be made.
1- The U.S. taxpayer has not recouped all of his money and the latest I’ve read is that the taxpayer will lose minimally 1 billion on the deal
2- The Obama administration brazenly ignored U.S. law in the structuring of the deal with the arbitrary subordination of the secured bondholders to union interests. This is in violation of all legal precedent. How and why this president can just ignore U.S. law at a whim is beyond me. And the secured bondholders too. This is not an administration that adheres to the rule of law.
As Ford acknowledges, it too probably would have gone under except for the serendipitous fact that it had borrowed a huge amount of money for expansion overseas just before the implosion came, giving them enough money to tide them over. Without that happy accident, they would have been in much the same shape as GM and Chrysler.- Jay
Translation from Jay? That Ford just got lucky. “A happy accident?” Had nothing to do with good planning did it Jay? That one statement gives me a glimpse into your misunderstanding of capitalism. You think a company like Ford or an individual like a Bill Gates just got lucky. Had nothing to do with them doing their homework, working hard, or planning. They just got lucky. Darn good thing you don’t write for the business section.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
8:20 pm
Good Fight/out of the blue, et al:
OLD NEWS !
She addressed every one of those questions directly to Mr. “Flake himself” Wallace last Sunday.
I suggest you go back and listen to the show or review the transcript.
josef
June 28th, 2011
8:20 pm
Scout
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
8:20 pm
Ho hum. More insults from the so called intelligent.
Yes indeed, one can be called educated while not being intelligent. And…one can be educated, intelligent and still not be interesting or truthful. We see it here every day.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
8:21 pm
Conservative woman derangement syndrome is alive and well.
Doggone/GA
June 28th, 2011
8:21 pm
“More insults from the so called intelligent.”
/snort
He's brilliant
June 28th, 2011
8:23 pm
V. Right wing, Obama graduated top of his class from Columbia and Harvard Law. He was editor of the Harvard Law Review. He was an instructor and professor at University of Chicago for 12 years. You can debate his policy if you don’t like it, but much to the haters chagrin, he’s an intellectual heavyweight and exceptionally qualified.
Sorry, but Implying or stating otherwise is just empty AM-radio rhetoric.
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
8:23 pm
B, that was badass.
Dusty, was your mom a big scolder, too? LOL.
Just don’t forget to also scold yourself for the rotten things you’ve said to lots of people here.
The best line I’ve read in ages, blue: “She’s giving hypocrisy a bad name”…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
June 28th, 2011
8:25 pm
Scout, sorry I have witnessed your inability to read a transcript before. If it matters to you, I am sure you can link to it. Does not mean that it is any less contradictory of her prior claims and her foolishness.
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
8:25 pm
JOSEF,
Where’s your “place”? I don’t know where it is.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
8:26 pm
………………. and one can be articulate yet way in over his head !
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
8:26 pm
Dusty,
Have you not learned about the Democrat strategy incorporating Bush and Bachman derangement syndromes?
1- Blame Bush
2- Scream Racism
3- Bash Palin/Bachman
Hmmmmmmmm
June 28th, 2011
8:27 pm
Wacky…… I would say she is about as wacky as the sitting President… She could do NO worse than Obama…
What about an article about the Illegals that were protesting? My guess is that they were all left wing liberals…
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
8:27 pm
Thulsa:
Can you just imagine this upcoming campaign.
The libs. are so worried they could lose that the viciousness they unleash will be unprecedented.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
8:28 pm
Good fight:
It’s up to you to stay informed. I won’t do it for you.
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
8:29 pm
This entire thread is an exercise in fantasy. Michele Bachmann has about as much chance of becoming President as a snowball has in H*ll. No, the guy the Left needs to watch is Jon Huntsman. Of all the candidates he has the appeal for the GREAT MIDDLE, i.e., independents. Of course, I could be wrong. Only time will tell. I like the fact that he has already declared that his campaign will take the high road.
For everyone Right and Left, the real issue is whether or not the United States is going to become a totalitarian corporate fascist state. We certainly are headed in that direction.
“The death of democracy is not likely to be an assassination from ambush. It will be a slow extinction from apathy, indifference, and undernourishment.”
– Robert M. Hutchins
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
8:29 pm
The popular Democrat strategy or BSB- blame bush, scream racism, bash palin/bachman is known as the BSB strategy and is aimed at non thinking zombies.
BSB stands for bullspit believers- an accurate description of the Dem base.
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
8:30 pm
AmVet,
My mother was as fine as they come. She would never stoop low enough to drag someone’s deceased mother into a senseless discussion.
OH I forgot. Blog rules. Anything goes here..
out of the blue
June 28th, 2011
8:31 pm
1811/1801 – 0311/0317
I guess you did not review the entire report?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
June 28th, 2011
8:31 pm
Thanks for the offer Scout. I agree with you. I would not consider you a source for staying informed about real issues or obtaining accurate information.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
8:31 pm
1811/1801 – 0311/0317 ,
Oh don’t you know it. They are going to be feeding a lot of hate and red meat to their BSBs or bullspit believer base.
josef
June 28th, 2011
8:31 pm
DUSTY”
Where’s your “place”? I don’t know where it is.”
D*mn! And there I was hoping you could tell me since you keep trying to put me there!
Moderate Line
June 28th, 2011
8:36 pm
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
6:07 pm
Moderate Line,
“The bar is pretty low for being taken seriously.”
Please show me 10 batshyte crazy quotes from Obama before he was elected. It can be about the specific candidate…Cynthia McKinney had 10 years in the House, but never garnered 18% of the Democrats support in her attempt at the White House.
++++
Is 10 the requirement to make someone a non-serious canidate? I did not realize there was such a standard.
“I didn’t want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about doing any seances.” –after saying he had spoken with all the living presidents as he prepared to take office, Washington, D.C., Nov. 7, 2008 (Obama later called Nancy Reagan to apologize)
“I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.” — defending his tax plan to Joe the Plumber, who argued that Obama’s policy hurts small-business owners like himself, Toledo, Ohio, Oct. 12, 2008
“What I was suggesting — you’re absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith…” –in an interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, who jumped in to correct Obama by saying “your Christian faith,” which Obama quickly clarified
“I’m here with the Girardo family here in St. Louis.” –speaking via satellite to the Democratic National Convention, while in Kansas City, Missouri, Aug. 25, 2008
“Let me introduce to you the next President — the next Vice President of the United States of America, Joe Biden.” –slipping up while introducing Joe Biden at their first joint campaign rally, Springfield, Illinois, Aug. 23, 2008
“Just this past week, we passed out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee — which is my committee — a bill to call for divestment from Iran as way of ratcheting up the pressure to ensure that they don’t obtain a nuclear weapon.” –referring to a committee he is not on, Sderot, Israel, July 23, 2008
“Let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s. It will be a strong friend of Israel’s under a McCain…administration. It will be a strong friend of Israel’s under an Obama administration. So that policy is not going to change.” –Amman, Jordan, July 22, 2008
“I’ve now been in 57 states — I think one left to go.” –at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon (Watch video clip).”
“It’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” –explaining his troubles winning over some working-class voters
“In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died — an entire town destroyed.” –on a Kansas tornado that killed 12 people.
“It’s embarrassing when Europeans come over here, they all speak English, they speak French, they speak German. And then we go over to Europe and all we can say is merci beaucoup.” Barack Hussein Obama, July 2008
However, it is interesting to me that Sarah Palin is criticized about Paul Revere and Obama doesn’t even know how many states there are. What do you think is bigger.
Usually who criticize and what we criticize is more of a reflection of who we are not who the person we are criticizing is. In think it would benefit the left if they did not criticize the intelligence of people who disagree with them. Just as I think it would benefit the right not to criticize peoples patriotism when they disagree with them.
Martin Williams
June 28th, 2011
8:36 pm
If Bachmann is the best candidate the GOP is going to offer, then NO need for general elections. Just let the electorate do it and save plenty of dollars. I know and you all very well know that,the big guns of the GOP will NEVER have a woman head that ticket. Just ask Hilary. America will be the last country on this planet to let a woman run the world. I truly believe and done so for a very long time that, the world will be a much BETTER world if women are heads of states, AMEN.
josef
June 28th, 2011
8:37 pm
Brilliant
He’s no dummy, but hardly “brilliant…” No where near the calibre of John Marshall, Judah Benjamin, Philip Phillips, Louis Brandeis and any number of others…
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
8:38 pm
Watching video of mobs of young people that just walk into stores and or department stores “flash mobbing” just walking in and stealing as much stuff as they can. Seems to be all the rage in Philly, LA, Atlanta and other places like the mobs of kids walking into shopping malls here in atl and grabbing mounds of jeans or designer clothes and bolting for the door. Where’s dirty Harry when we need him. Too bad you can’t just start shooting these animals down.
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
8:39 pm
Thulsa, 8:26
I am quite familiar with the Bush syndome and other adnormalities presented by Democrats. Most of the time I just overlook their flights of furious fancy, their assigments of crime when there are no indictments because there’s no crime, their twisting of normal action into evil intent, etc. etc. etc.
But some days it gets TIRESOME. So I say so and it does not earn me the title of Mrs. Congeniality. But who cares. Telling the truth is not popular. Too bad.
josef
June 28th, 2011
8:40 pm
Martin
Heads of state or heads of government? In both cases the record is checkered…
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
8:42 pm
“Too bad you can’t just start shooting these animals down.”
Maybe you could just give ‘em jobs answerin’ the phone over there at yore insurance agency, there Thulsa. Heck, they’d be so busy, they wouldn’t have no time to be “flash mobbin’.”
getalife
June 28th, 2011
8:42 pm
I think we should look at the outcomes of his actions after his second term before we judge the President.
We are living with the outcomes of the w disaster.
The gop threat to default is not helping Europe.
Both of us are teetering on collapse while the gop are playing politics like they have from the start of the Obama first term.
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
8:44 pm
Dusty, I have no doubt. And you know, no offense was meant.
The craziest thing about today’s politicians is the sheer hubris and hypocritical sense of entitlement. I preferred the old pols who made no pretenses, “Heck, yeah, I profited from this, that or the other.”
But these clowns actually rant and rail against the very thing they are profiting from. And they’re so damn dumb they think everybody else is so damn dumb that they won’t get caught!?!?
Like some amateur blogger.
Just don’t do the Pete Rose!
I have zero problems with that Christian counseling service of her husbands. Nor family farms that have historically used commodity purchase programs by Uncle Sam. It is how American agribusinesses has operate for generations.
But please just quit being such a Washington weasel about it all, OK, Michele?
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
8:44 pm
Theft of blue jeans = death sentence!
Doggone/GA
June 28th, 2011
8:47 pm
“Theft of blue jeans = death sentence!”
In Charles Dicken’s day a petty thief could get the death sentence for stealing a handkerchief.
Why do I keep hearing “let’s take our country back”?
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
8:47 pm
JOSEF,
I’m trying to put you in your place? What? I thought you were one of a kind.
captguitarman
June 28th, 2011
8:47 pm
Nancy also said that in the next election the Pubs will be the “incumbents” because they defeated nearly every House Dem that ran and took control of the House last November — a victory, by the way, that owed much to Ms. Pelosi for her handling of the Obamacare bill. But now they are the incumbents. Nancy surely must live in a strange fantasy world. But, being a wide-eyed Dem/Lib female ditz will never gain her the malevolent and vicous fear and loathing reserved for female conservatives, Palin, Bachmann, and black male conservatives, Cain, and Justice Thomas. How dare they . . . how dare they . . . become prominent, accomplished, and outspoken advocates for the conservative and now Tea Party causes? They are white females and male blacks. Don’t they know their place, their proper roles on the Great Liberal Federal Plantation? Ingrates! It is so interesting to watch how first, Thomas, then Palin, then Cain, and now Bachmann are covered and discussed on in the lame stream news media and on the lame stream networks and cable news channels. I thought Chris Matthews was going to self destruct today talking about Bachmann. He must have had tingles running over his whole body. It’s actually funny to watch. Like going to the zoo and laughing at the monkeys and wondering why they act the way they do? Sarah Palin drives a bus around with her name on it promoting herself (of course) and making personal appearances, and they foam at the mouth, twitch uncontrollably, and wet their pants. I can only ask why? And the only answer is – deny it all you want – fear. Plain old fashioned fear. If these conservative/tea party women ever catch on with the majority of women in America, and if black conservative males make even small inroads with black males getting them into the Pub/Tea Party side, the Dems have had it, and they know it. Personally, like many people, I can barely tolerate Palin, and neither her nor Bachmann are going to be the Pub candidate, thank God. But if the Pubs/Cons/TP have a lick of sense, they will keep these women out their churning things up as long as they can, just to keep the comic relief from the DEm/Lib/Left coming, as we head into the elections. It’s the best distraction we can hope for now that the Dems’ Weiner has been roasted.
Ninja
June 28th, 2011
8:47 pm
Why does nihilism suddenly seem so appealing?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
June 28th, 2011
8:48 pm
Doomy is beginning to sound a lot like Bortz…. why wait for a death sentence….just start vigilante shootings. That always works out well.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
8:49 pm
Soothsayer,
I don’t think answering the phone “yo” or “who dis” would suffice for my clients. If some store owners started shooting a few of them maybe they would get the message that this kind of sheet isn’t ok. If you’re brazen enough to join a mob and just rob people blind then you should face the consequences for your actions. Besides if the storeowners could just start gunning them down it would save the taxpayers the imminent incarceration costs of these future criminal for life thugs.
Joe Biden
June 28th, 2011
8:51 pm
“Wackiness”? Heck, they don’t get any more “wacked-out” than ME! HAHAHAHA!!! Why, hell, most of the time even I don’t know what’s gonna pop out of my own pie hole! And you guys think Palin and Bachmann are wacky? Look at Me! Geeez!
josef
June 28th, 2011
8:52 pm
DUSTY
Ninja
There is that.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
8:52 pm
keep up,
Speaking of Doom he calls them “urban gentleman”. Vigilantes? Not quite. If a pack of thugs comes in to rob your store in a case of brazen criminality you should have the right to fight back. These thugs won’t be missed- except by bedwetting libs like yourself.
Cure for flash mobs
June 28th, 2011
8:54 pm
Ar-15 with a few 30 round clips. Remmington .223’s are not racists.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
8:54 pm
I believe that we’re headed toward some kind of a revolution in America. Hope it will be peaceful.
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
8:54 pm
AmVet,
Well, your vocabulary of namecalling has increased. I believe “Washington weasel” is a new one. Your ability to see criminal activity even in the farm land (Bachman does not own the farm). What next? She was a lawyer for the IRS. Can’t you tie something to that?
By the way, someone just announed that Obama graduated with top honors at Columbia . When did he release his academic records there?
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
8:54 pm
keep up,
Actually that was Boortz that called them that after that Walmart video 3 days ago where 3 of these ahem “urban gentleman” just walked out of walmart with a couple cases of beer and a white woman jumped on their hood to try and stop them. Cops ended up getting all 3 of the “urban gentleman”. Sorry to see the Dems lose a few more voters.
wet wiccan
June 28th, 2011
8:55 pm
It’s like a bad reality show. Dusty is right. Who in their right mind would ever want to run for president? You are followed constantly, everything you says is analyzed or spun. Personal life? Ha! I do not agree with Bachmann’s politics, but I am respectful of what she has accomplished in her life. A very high-profile career and raising a family. There are some smart women in Washington like Elizabeth Warren, but the circus would eat her alive.
MiltonMan
June 28th, 2011
8:56 pm
Liberals defending Pelosi & stating that she never made the comment about passing ObozoCare to find out what is in it???
Liberals on here must be by-products of the APS education system.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
8:56 pm
To my conservative friends:
Vote early and vote OFTEN ! The libs. will !
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Fletch
June 28th, 2011
8:56 pm
Sooth – “the guy the Left needs to watch is Jon Huntsman. Of all the candidates he has the appeal for the GREAT MIDDLE, i.e., independents”
Agreed, He was an excellent Governor of my home state of Utah, has the business experience and the foreign relations experience that make a well rounded candidate. Unfortunately, I think his downfall will be the fact that he doesn’t engage in “attack” ads, nor does he try to get his message across by berating his opponents. So unless he’s willing to come out with a daily rant about how Obama is an idiot responsible for bringing America to it’s knees, no one on here will ever hear his message.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
8:58 pm
MiltonMan,
I disagree with you. I think the libs on here are graduates of the Clayton County school system.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
June 28th, 2011
8:58 pm
Doom, being particularly racist tonight aren’t you? Sorry, I’ll leave the bedwetting to you. bet you’re yearning for the days when the thugs were all Irish or some nonsense.
Doggone/GA
June 28th, 2011
8:59 pm
“stating that she never made the comment about passing ObozoCare to find out what is in it???”
Nope. Just correcting it to what she ACTUALLY SAID.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
9:00 pm
Recon:
We may live to see some of this but I feel in the years ahead (20? 30?) that America will “fragment” of it’s own accord ………… hopefully peacefully.
The Northwest may be the first to go ………… Hawaii and independent country again?
Then the Southwest ………………… believe it or not, the last states to hold on to the “old Union” will be the Southern States.
Who would have “thunk it” ?
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
9:00 pm
The far left is a small percentage of the population in this country but they’ve caused extensive damage over several years. I think we’re reaching a tipping point for the majority.
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
9:02 pm
This message is for my friends on the Right: Be careful what you wish for. You have, unwittingly, been mass indoctrinated by the Power Elite through Lush, Bellow, Speck, Vannity, and Dorkz to believe that totalitarian corporate fascism is what this country needs.
Once we go “through the looking glass” it will too late. There won’t be any cavalry riding over the hill to save us. It’s a thin line to cross. Think about what you have been led to believe. Ask yourself, who will benefit?
You have been indoctrinated to believe that unions are greedy, corrupt, evil. Yet most of the gains working people in this country enjoy are the result of unions.
In this same line of reasoning you have been indoctrinated to believe that “free(sic) trade” is good for America. Even in light of millions out of work and 46,000 American factories closed you still cling to your beliefs. “Free(sic) trade” is only good for corporations’ bottom line. It has devastated America.
You have been indoctrinated to believe that Social Security and Medicare are socialist and going broke. Neither are true. The truth is that the Social Security trust fund has been robbed of $2,000,000,000,000.00 by your Federal government. Now that the bills are coming due, all of a sudden we need to “fix” Social Security and Medicare.
The list could go on and on. The important message is this. Who benefits from what you have been led to believe? A small group of uber rich or the greater population of America?
Imma Lib
June 28th, 2011
9:02 pm
Those poor flash mobbers. Those greedy store owners should just invite them in, and let them take what they want. Hmmmm…they all seem to be black. What’s up with that?
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:03 pm
Racist? No. Just having fun getting you guys all riled up. I was watching the news on flash mobs while blogging and decided to stir the hornets nest a bit. You just went for hit hook, line, and sinker. I figure since you guys are always screaming racism all the time I just gotta throw back at you once in awhile. You know just kinda even out a little bit the race card that you love to play all the time.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
9:03 pm
1811,
When America falls that will be the tipping point for our man upstairs.
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
9:05 pm
Josef,
Oh I remember. One of a kind but who knows what kind? Reminds me of e. e cumming and his poetry.such as “my sweet old etcetera” .. always wandering off to etcetera. And who knows what more etcetera….etc.etc.etc.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:06 pm
Hmmm. A lecture at 9:02 on indoctrination from a guy who will tell you with a straight face that 9/11 was an inside job by Bush. Oh but the irony!
Bruno
June 28th, 2011
9:08 pm
Here’s one for you, Brother Am:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeRJQ8T4r98
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
9:09 pm
Dusty, just do yourself a favor for once in your life, and actually read all the relevant information made available to you here this evening. But you won’t, will you?
Because you’re not gonna like the facts therein.
But it does not change them.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
9:10 pm
Thulsa Doom,
May be a nice guy otherwise but certainly disqualifies him from posting creditable opinions on this blog.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
June 28th, 2011
9:11 pm
Just having fun getting you guys all riled up.
Well you may think you riled someone up…frankly I just think you showed your own ignorance. I just picture you in your pointed hood and shouting ignorance. And to claim that you did this to merely rile someone up is like saying that you would yell out hate speech against those of Jewish faith just to stir them up. Yeah, what fun. Bet you are just a laugh riot at all the lynchings.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
9:13 pm
Keep,
Looks as though you got riled up.
the Truth
June 28th, 2011
9:14 pm
White America can not handle a BLACK president!..The end!
Bruno
June 28th, 2011
9:15 pm
One for Matti:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUOO38W8QBQ
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
9:16 pm
“White America can not handle a BLACK president!..The end!”
We haven’t had one as yet.
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
9:16 pm
Thulsa: I’m so glad you brought up the subject of 9/11! I love to talk about it!
Anyway what I wanted share with you all is that a far right wing friend of mine (I know, can you believe it?) thought I was crazy when I first broached the subject of the likelihood that 9/11 was an inside job. However, after presenting to him the numerous reasons why 9/11 couldn’t have happened the way it was described, he confessed to me the other day that he now believes that 9/11 was not an attack by “terrorists” but an attack by own government on innocent citizens for one purpose and one purpose only. To create a casus belli [cause for war] to lead the nation into its long descent into needless ghastly expensive wars.
Oh, and by the way, this is yet another example of indoctrination by your government.
Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
9:17 pm
C/o Recon :
“The far
leftright is a small percentage of the population in this country but they’ve caused extensive damage over several years. I think we’re reaching a tipping point for the majority.”getalife
June 28th, 2011
9:18 pm
We are facing the consequences of the w collapse.
We will come back.
Another bubble and all is forgotten.
Back to business and politics as usual.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:18 pm
keep up the good fight,
Lynchings? Yeah keep up. They happen all the time don’t they? What? 2 in 30 years- Michael Donald in Mobile in 1981 and james byrd almost a decade ago. When you resort to hyperbole like that you have no credibility. This is 2011 not 1811. Showing my own ignorance? What was I ignorant about? I never mentioned the race of the flash mob members? Who does all this flash mobbing anyway? Maybe you can enlighten me as to who is doing all this. You’re questioning my motives over why I riled you up? Very simple. I just saw the videos on the news on this new crime phenomenon and decided to mess with ya. I know you’re pro criminal. But I didn’t know you were a psychoanalyst or psychologist. Who knew? I thought you were just an ambulance chaser.
Realist
June 28th, 2011
9:18 pm
Dayum, Jay. You guys are so clueless. A can of orange juice will be better than the current President.
Josef
June 28th, 2011
9:19 pm
Duty…
I’m a big Cummings fan! And I know it’s a lower case c, but the new toy doesn’t see it that way..”
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
9:19 pm
LWM, don’t you just wish we’re a small percentage of the population…stand by.
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
June 28th, 2011
9:20 pm
Wacky is YOUR opinion. If you want to talk wacked, try NObama. Reality has left him.
Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
9:20 pm
getalife, I love the use of the letter w. Such an evocative letter.
Stands, as we all know, for : collapse. Advancing rigor mortis of empire.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:21 pm
Soothsayer,
To create a casus belli [cause for war] to lead the nation into its long descent into needless ghastly expensive wars.- sooth
Ok I’ll play your game for just a moment. What the hell purpose would a descent into needless, ghastly, expensive wars serve a president when presidents are judged on their domestic issues such as handling of the economy more than on anything else. What purpose could it possibly have served W to start off some war in a far away land just for the sake of starting a war? What purpose would be served?
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
9:23 pm
“A political order can be stable only if it is united by an external threat . . . Following Machiavelli, he maintained that if no external threat exists then one has to be manufactured”
– Robert Strauss, father of the Neocon movement
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
9:24 pm
AmVet,
I did better than read all the “relevant ” facts here. I used the internet to read all about Michelle Bachman. It was quite an illustrious story of a smart, well educated woman who has done many good things in her life. She also seems to be trying her best to make things better in these times in our country.
That said, I am not sure yet that I would choose her as a candidate. But the facts I learn from responsible sources far out weigh the oft twisted accusations and misinformation on this blog. Many here seem addicted to material obviously published to smear Republicans. It is easily recognized as material from a propaganda machine.
Ask Granny Godzilla how it works. She was a paid contributor during Obama’s campaign. She poured out liberal info like you wouldn’t believe. Used IN THE NEWs as her id. I don’t think she does that anymore but that is how much slanted info gets into the public view.
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
9:24 pm
Very smooth Fripp, B.
He’s on the studio cut from the 1977 album Peter Gabriel, though not this live version…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gduDj_dBoz0
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:24 pm
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
9:16 pm
“White America can not handle a BLACK president!..The end!”
We haven’t had one as yet.
Recon,
I dunno. Wasn’t Bill Clinton the nation’s first black president? According to Maya Angelou and others he was.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
9:25 pm
This thread is clearly burned out and now it’s just pi$$ing in pockets. Taps y’all, I’m out.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
June 28th, 2011
9:25 pm
Doom…typical. You post your nonsense then whine like a baby..who me racist? Like I said, bet you are fun at all your clan meetings. A regular riot just there to support them because you want to rile people up with hate speech. I’m not going back through your nonsense of “urban gentlemen” and answering the phone “Yo”. Simply own up to being a racist or just own up to be so ignorant of what hate speech does that you think its funny to use hate speech. I doubt anyone can enlighten you when you think using hate speech is fun.
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
9:26 pm
“What purpose could it possibly have served W to start off some war in a far away land just for the sake of starting a war? What purpose would be served?”
Thulsa, you surprise me! Who on Earth could possibly benefit from the $TRILLIONS we have wasted on needless wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and now, Libya? Defense contractors? Nah!
Paulo977
June 28th, 2011
9:26 pm
AmVet
Just Run For The Roses!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o73AuvnxGDs&feature=related
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:27 pm
sooth,
Say machiavelli = robert strauss= W? huh? is there supposed to be some logic here?
oldguy
June 28th, 2011
9:29 pm
Ah Jay,
Its good to see you got the Memo from the Lib establishment to attack Bachmann; I was afraid you were out of the loop. Be sure to point out that she is female and conservative so she must be a loon!!
George Soros will be pleased. Your check is in the mail.
The Community Organizer
June 28th, 2011
9:30 pm
Hi guys, I’m leaving the 57th state, on my way to the 58th. Gonna visit some Navy Korpsemen, then on to see some Memorial Day Veterans. I’m hoping I can stop by the ER and visit with some kids and talk about their Asthma breathalizer…I mean.. inhalator.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:31 pm
Sooth,
That would make sense except that Rumsfeld and I assume Bush and Cheney all had to divest of their holdings in many stocks- particularly oil and defense stocks, as a result of their positions. Rummy was talking about it in a press conference and stated that it cost him 20k in accounting fees to go through some blind trusts and eliminate any and all possible holdings in companies like Haliburton, etc to avoid conflicts of interest or just the appearance of conflicts of interest.
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
9:32 pm
Thulsa: he was quoting Machiavelli. Say, are you married? I’m always looking for a rich woman!
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:32 pm
The community organizer,
You gonna stop by and see that place called Lybia that you tweeted about and mispelled.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
9:33 pm
Recon:
I hear you but in all my studies and research you don’t find the U.S. in prophecy especially concerning Israel and their “almost” fate.
That means we have fragmented or become so insignificant as to not be a player on the world stage.
Given enough time …….. it has happened to every country before us.
Josef
June 28th, 2011
9:33 pm
Thulsa
Lynchigs? Does the name Matthew Shepherd mean anything to you?
Truth
Oh, please! White American votes put him there. You’re in your own cave.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:33 pm
Sooth,
I think you know very well that I’m a guy. Nice try at an insult but you’ll have to do better than that.
oldguy
June 28th, 2011
9:34 pm
the truth,
How about this, I will only vote against Obozo’s white half! Will that meet your criteria??
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
9:35 pm
Thanks Paulo,
Even after almost four years, I still hate it that he is gone already.
He truly was one of my very favorites.
He was from Illinois.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u05eH6cYRSI
Soothsayerc
June 28th, 2011
9:35 pm
Not divest, place in blind trust. Let me get this straight: you really believe that the Military Industrial Complex has not benefited from the conflicts of the past 11 – 12 years. You’re not really going to say that are you?
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
9:37 pm
Thulsa: my sincerest apologies. I could have sworn someone said on here the other night that you were a woman. In that case, I’m taking off the gloves.
The Community Organizer
June 28th, 2011
9:37 pm
Thulsa
Hey, I may stop by Lybia..teehee…ya know that’s a tough one to spell! Gotta wait for Michelle to get back from that $800K taxpayer Vacation! Did you see her eatin those french fries?
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
9:37 pm
1811,
I’ll fight to my last breath if I’m still around. Now Taps.
Bruno
June 28th, 2011
9:38 pm
Am–Nice rare Gabriel clip.
josef–Are you gonna have a drink ready for me on the 4th?? I’ll be running past your neighborhood somewhere around 8:25 during the Peachtree Road Race, way at the back of the pack.
the Truth
June 28th, 2011
9:39 pm
@Soothsayer
you are correct, 911 was an inside job done by the Goverment, white people lied to get America in Vietnam also, they used 911 as a excuse to invade Iraq and White people bought it lol..that proved to me that Whites really don’t care about their own race..They are so brained washed, they believe everything they see on TV..2 senseless TRILLION dollar wars is the reason why America is an debt, not welfare or whatever Whites think, the rich have decided that they don’t want to pay for 2 WARS!..Pat Tillman was about to expose the US about fighting fake wars, so the US decided that he must die!..
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
9:41 pm
Wet wiccan, 8:55
Thank you for seeing quite clearly how politics are going these days. Not any fun to see responsible people getting run down just for political reasons. Takes a brave person to even consider a political job! And I might add, ’specially a woman..
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
9:42 pm
the Truth: change “white people” to your government and you’ve got it!
The Community Organizer
June 28th, 2011
9:42 pm
Hey! That scholar and intellectual giant, Cynthia McKinney said 9/11 was inside job. It HAS to be true.
Josef
June 28th, 2011
9:43 pm
Bruno
If we’re in town! Congrats…
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:45 pm
josef,
I don’t consider Matthew Sheperd a lynching. The 2 guys that killed him had robbery for money and drugs as their primary motive and were common criminals to begin with. Its not as if they were driving around looking for a gay man to kill. That’s a bunch of horse manure. They robbed him for money and drugs and the fact that he was gay and had made overtures to them only incensed them- insulting their manhood. It was then that they beat him and left him tied to a fence post. But positing that story as a lynching of a gay man for being gay is complete BS. And btw Josef during the same time I remember Oreilly talking about an attack that took place in arkansas where 2 gay men purposely attacked and raped a teenager heterosexual male. Oreilly asked a question that I also would like an answer to. Why was the Sheperd story so widely reported and mistakenly reported as a hate crime and why was this ark story never reported? Oreilly was the single person that reported it. Can you explain these discrepancies to me?
Paulo977
June 28th, 2011
9:46 pm
AmVet
“Even after almost four years, I still hate it that he is gone already”
All this talk about prostate cancer made me remember him!!!
getalife
June 28th, 2011
9:47 pm
Doom swallows every lie on fox news.
Sad but true.
Josef
June 28th, 2011
9:47 pm
It’s all the White folk’s fault. Them, the Jews, and the Ragpickers.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:47 pm
The Community Organizer
June 28th, 2011
9:37 pm
Thulsa
Hey, I may stop by Lybia..teehee…ya know that’s a tough one to spell! Gotta wait for Michelle to get back from that $800K taxpayer Vacation! Did you see her eatin those french fries?
What? Say it aint so. Michelle was eating fries? I thought she only ate veggies, fruits, and other heatlhy foods per her health and fitness campaign. Surely you jest?
bman
June 28th, 2011
9:50 pm
I couldn’t believe it when I saw a “Kerry/Edwards” bumper sticker today…..and I made him move his car.
Josef
June 28th, 2011
9:50 pm
Thulsa..
That post is pretty much why I don’t much care for you at a very personal level.
oldguy
June 28th, 2011
9:51 pm
rest well Recon;
Don’t forget to put out the tripwires and Claymours!!
Retreat for me.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:51 pm
keep up,
You don’t ever say yo to anyone. I do all the time. Urban gentleman is Boortz’s deal- not mine. I just borrowed it from him. Still whining about the race card cause you thought it was only your card to play. Keep whining.
TruthBe
June 28th, 2011
9:52 pm
Bachmann is much smarter, more trust worthy, a real Conservative, a real America, a Christian, a Tax Attorney, a Mother that foster 24 foster chidren and had 4 Children of her own, a Congresswomen, a Small Business Owner, created jobs, and someone that has a backbone that will stand for something. Unlike Obama who is a total disgrace as the president, a complete liar, a muslim, a communist, never had a job except community organizer and lawyer for the criminal enterprise Acorn, never ran a business, never been responsible for a payroll, a racist, a apologist for America to the entire world, a master at gattes, and hasn’t any throughts of his own to fix the economy. Jay you, Granny and the rest of the idiot liberals out there are the real problems with America. Please leave. China would be a perfect place for all of you and take the obamas with you.
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
9:52 pm
Now, don’t y’all be gangin’ up on poor ol’ Thulsa Doom ya hear?
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
9:53 pm
After, the real circumstances of Pat Tillman’s death emerged, and the Army revealed he was actually killed when a friendly unit raked Tillman’s position with machine guns. That is unfortunately normal fog of war stuff—friendly fire deaths are routine. What is shocking about Tillman’s death is how the Army deliberately covered it up, painting him as a selfless hero knowing full well that he was killed by his own side. A new investigation blames the entire chain of command, right up to the generals in charge, for their lies about the circumstances of Tillman’s death.
The one exception to my rule of never wearing the jersey of another man. His is the only one.
A heroes hero. (Besmirched by your friends at the Pentagon.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu0OO44MpYA&feature=fvst
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
9:55 pm
“China would be a perfect place for all of you and take the obamas with you.”
You know, I was just thinkin’ ’bout that the other day. If I was to go to China then maybe, at long last, I could find me one of them there jobs everone is talkin’ ’bout!
getalife
June 28th, 2011
9:56 pm
Truther,
Four more years.
Love it or leave it.
bachmann is a joke.
Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
9:57 pm
Soothsayer: ““A political order can be stable only if it is united by an external threat . . . Following Machiavelli, he maintained that if no external threat exists then one has to be manufactured””
Actually it’s LEO Strauss, not Robert, and this sounds to me like his warmed over idea he got from the German hard right jurist Carl Schmitt, whose basic theory was that the fundamental core, the bonding element between citizens is shared object of hatred, an enemy.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:57 pm
Josef,
That’s fine. I honestly don’t care. The young man’s death was tragic but as I pointed out the 2 punks that killed him had money and drugs as their primary motive- not gay bashing. That is an indisputable fact that you simply don’t like and don’t want to hear, and which you certainly failed to address. I can’t help that.
As for the example I pointed out I would still like to know why it is that that attack was not reported in the national media. And I suppose you have no answer to that or just don’t want to answer it. Seems to me that you want the media to portray an instance of what you perceive to be a gay bashing hate crime but wasn’t but you don’t want any gay attacks on young men to be reported?
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:58 pm
sooth,
I can take you all down. Bring it! Its like shooting fish in a barrel for me.
TruthBe
June 28th, 2011
10:00 pm
getalife, obama is a one term president only if he dosen’t get impeached for the corruption of his adminstration.
getalife
June 28th, 2011
10:03 pm
Doom,
You should change your name to fox news talking points.
You bring nothing but their spin on everything.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
10:03 pm
josef:
Lynchigs? Does the name Henry Wirz mean anything to you ………………
?
TruthBe
June 28th, 2011
10:04 pm
Goodnite People. ANYBODY in 2012 but obama.
Finn McCool
June 28th, 2011
10:04 pm
Lol, Truth,
If you guys don’t find some serious candidates, Obama is going to steamroll this election even more than the last.
I want you guys to bring some heat, some competition; but so far it’s been silly.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
10:05 pm
Still waiting for your answer Josef.
BENTONVILLE, Ark. (BP)–The first of two homosexuals to be tried for raping and murdering 13-year-old Jesse Dirkhising was found guilty March 22 in Bentonville, Ark.
With Joshua Brown, 23, now convicted for the September 1999 rape and murder of the boy, Brown’s homosexual partner, Davis Carpenter, 39, will go to trial May 7.
The attack by two homosexuals against a young teen boy has stirred few reports in the national media. In Little Rock, only three stories are found in a search of the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette’s website. One of the stories focuses on the now-concluded trial of Brown; the other two stories deal with the media issue.
The sweeping amount of national coverage devoted to the 1998 killing of a homosexual, Matthew Shepard, by two men in Wyoming is being called into question, in terms of media bias, when compared to the lack of coverage devoted to two homosexuals who raped and murdered a seventh-grade boy.
A writer in The Washington Times noted March 23 that the Arkansas trial for young Dirkhising’s murder had not been mentioned by The New York Times, The Washington Post, USA Today, NBC, ABC, CBS or CNN.
Also being questioned: why such prominent figures as Sen. Edward Kennedy and Rep. Richard Gephardt, Democratic leader in the House of Representatives, were quick to decry the Shepard murder but have remained silent about young Dirkhising’s murder.
During the weeklong trial in Benton County, Ark., prosecutors charged that Brown sodomized the 13-year-old while Carpenter directed the assault in the men’s squalid one-bedroom apartment in Rogers, Ark. Police found instructions in the men’s apartment outlining the method by which Jesse was raped and killed.
The boy was gagged with a pair of dirty underwear during the five-hour assault and suffocated, as recounted by the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award"......
June 28th, 2011
10:05 pm
“Bachmann: Wackiness will out itself in time”
Then perhaps Bachmann needs to take a strong message to all 57 states and lay out her plan on that one 3-letter word, jobs….J – O – B – S.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award"......
June 28th, 2011
10:07 pm
Finn McCool
June 28th, 2011
10:04 pm
“…Obama is going to steamroll this election even more than the last.”
I don’t know if I believe that. After all, this time Obama actually has a record to run on and it’s not very impressive.
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
10:07 pm
LWM: you’re right, it was Leo Strauss. I don’t know how that quote could have been attributed to Robert Strauss.
“Perpetual war, not perpetual peace, is what Straussians believe in,” says Drury. The idea easily translates into, in her words, an “aggressive, belligerent foreign policy,” of the kind that has been advocated by neocon groups like PNAC [Project for a New American Century] (a far right-wing neoconservative group) and AEI [American Enterprise Institute] (another far right think tank) scholars – not to mention Wolfowitz and other administration hawks who have called for a world order dominated by U.S. military power. Strauss’ neoconservative students see foreign policy as a means to fulfill a “national destiny” – as Irving Kristol defined it already in 1983 – that goes far beyond the narrow confines of a ” myopic national security.”
This is a great article, I encourage all to read it!
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
10:13 pm
“I can take you all down. Bring it! Its like shooting fish in a barrel for me.”
I’ll hand this to you Thulsa, you hang in there longer than your other Rightie buddies. Most of them run for the woodwork when I turn the lights on!
You sure not a woman? I was really hoping I could get a ride in your SUV. Escalade, isn’t it? One of them “lo-o-o-ong wheelbase,” 9mpg ones, right?
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
10:15 pm
Tillman was NOT besmirched by anyone. The fact that he decided to fight for his country makes him a hero. All who fight for us in our volunteer military are heroes. But Tillman did give up notorority and riches to do his part. That gives us extra thought about his decision and add special luster to a brave man.
The fact that the military did not present the true facts about his death gives us second thoughts. We do not understand why they did that. I believe that they did not want Americans to know that such a snafu as friendly fire had occured. They wanted a special hero to have a special ending. So they made the story more acceptable. It was not good thinking on the part of those in charge. But it never deflects on Tillman who gave his life for his country. His life stands without blemish.
The agony endured by his family is understandable. I’m not sure the truth would have made it any easier. Tillman’s brother was disillusioned totally. Would the truth have helped him in any way? I don’t know. The truth is almost always better.
Goodnight. Time for the Braves!! Hanson is back!! Go BRAVES!!
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
10:16 pm
Sooth,
No caddie. Mid sized SUV with decent 20mpg gas mileage. Not that it should matter though. Are you sure not not one of them there transgendered folks sooth? See how easy that was.
Finn McCool
June 28th, 2011
10:18 pm
Both Bachmann’s brother AND husband are running businesses whose income depends on government subsidies.
Why can’t you Conservatives see through this stuff? You hear a line of talk you like and put on blinders! It’s like a teenager seeing a girl with big tatas eyeing him – nothing else matters, all logic sinks away. Just feed you the line……
Finn McCool
June 28th, 2011
10:20 pm
besmirched
Lol, Hannity! Can we call you “Dusty Shawn” or “Dusty Hannity”? Nobody else uses that term on the air, nobody.
We now know where Dusty gets her talking points.
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
10:21 pm
“Honor the LORD with your wealth,
with the firstfruits of all your crops;
then your barns will be filled to overflowing,
and your vats will brim over with new wine.”
Friends, your local church, synagogue, temple, tabernacle desperately needs your support — NOW! Give and it shall be given unto you. Even if you only have one dollar, GIVE! You won’t believe the benefits you will receive and the changes it will bring to your life!!
Goodnight everyone!
Finn McCool
June 28th, 2011
10:25 pm
Leg,
Jobs? It’s not just about jobs. You conservatives are looking for a lifeline to win!
Americans aren’t as stupid as you think. They would rather have a slow economy than elect a nutball to dig the hole deeper.
Most Americans DON’T watch Fox News so most Americans AREN’T ill-informed by that bag o steamy silliness.
Next time you want to talk about tv NEWS ratings, first do the real numbers – % of Americans with cable, % of Americans who watch news channels, and then, % of Americans who watch cable news channels.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award"......
June 28th, 2011
10:28 pm
Finn McCool
June 28th, 2011
10:18 pm
And you bought in to a “line of talk” about hope and change. Have you bought your raffle ticket yet to “dinner with Barack and Joe”?
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
10:28 pm
Finn McCool, you are right, when I want to be informed I watch WSBTV. Thats where the smart folks go.
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
10:30 pm
Finn McCool,@ 10:20
For your information, I used “besmirched’ because AmVet used it in his post @ 9:53. I was responding to that.
I can’t remember ever hearing or seeing Hannity. I don’t turn on the TV or the radio until the evening.
Your conclusions are incorrect. No surprise at that. .
The Leg Lamp is a "major award"......
June 28th, 2011
10:30 pm
Finn McCool
June 28th, 2011
10:25 pm
But a nutball WAS elected in 2008 and, as you said, we are in a deeper hole.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
10:30 pm
So one of the delusional ones thinks Obama can actually win. No president has ever been re-elected since the 1930s with an unemployment rate higher than 7.2%. It currently stands at 9.1% and in order to get it down to 7.2% the economy would have to add 350,000 jobs a month between now and next Novemember. Keep in mind that this is an economy that added just 54,000 jobs last month including nearly half that amount by McDonalds. Maybe we should call Obama the big mac president.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
10:31 pm
That Monica Kauffman, now thats a news professional.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award"......
June 28th, 2011
10:32 pm
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
10:28 pm
WSBTV? You mean the evening news? BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! All you’ll hear there is apartment fires, potholes, and the weather.
Ed Long
June 28th, 2011
10:32 pm
Obama visted 57 states !
The Leg Lamp is a "major award"......
June 28th, 2011
10:34 pm
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
10:31 pm
What color is Monica’s hair today?
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
10:34 pm
Tulsa, Big Mac Obama…LOL I think thats got legs.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
10:34 pm
Leg Lamp,
I think Finn is one of those zombies that if Obama declared that the sun revolved around the earth that Finn would hail it as the truth for no other reason than Obama said so. That’s the type of mentality you’re dealing with when you talk about folks like him and getalife. They’re basically just nonthinking zombies or libsheeple that drink the koolaid of their god who is but a mere man.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
10:38 pm
mr. Charlie,
God knows that if W was president and we had only 54,000 hired and half of them were by one company McDonalds then we all know that the national news media would dub him the McDonalds president or the mcW.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
10:39 pm
Ed long,
Don’t forget that he spells Lybia in his presidential tweets.
the Truth
June 28th, 2011
10:47 pm
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
10:15 pm
“Tillman was NOT besmirched by anyone. The fact that he decided to fight for his country makes him a hero.”
No,No,No, if you would watch something other than Fox News, you would find that he actually wrote his mother a letter explaining that both WARS were fake and oil driven..the US GOVT found out about it and killed him..just the WHITE man being himself!
The Leg Lamp is a "major award"......
June 28th, 2011
10:49 pm
the Truth
June 28th, 2011
10:47 pm
I guess the rest of us should get our news from Olberman like you, right?
DwayneL
June 28th, 2011
10:50 pm
I love watching you people squirm at the thought of a strong woman leading polls to be republican nominee. Considering the absolute failure of your man in the White House any new face will be most welcome.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
10:51 pm
Yes Dwaynel, liberals just have a problem with woman in power.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
10:52 pm
Leg, LOL
Bachmann/Tea Party Initiative
June 28th, 2011
10:59 pm
This is right out of the Tea Party playbook…
http://www.theonion.com/articles/georgia-school-board-bans-theory-of-math,2998/
the Truth
June 28th, 2011
11:00 pm
@DwayneL
other than Obama being black, what has he did that is so wrong?..
independent thinker
June 28th, 2011
11:02 pm
Anyone who says they married her husband based on visions from God is a religious psycho The only vision this religious zealot had before marriage is getting that $250,000 farm subsidy her husband gets for that family farm he inherited. Does anyone really believe she has 24 kids at home??
So tell me what has she truly accomplished in the House of Representatives?Did she ever pass the Bar and become an attorney? Where ? What state?
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
11:10 pm
“Does anyone really believe she has 24 kids at home??”
I believe she has five of her own, and fostered 24 over the years – not necessarily at the same time.
oldguy
June 28th, 2011
11:14 pm
Hey libs;
read this Gallup Poll
Obozo’s job approval rate as of TODAY!
Approve : 44%
Disapprove : 48%
Remember the Bitch Patrol on “The View” crowing about 53% after our hero took out Osama?
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx
Fred
June 28th, 2011
11:14 pm
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
10:38 pm
God knows that if W was president and we had only 54,000 hired and half of them were by one company McDonalds then we all know that the national news media would dub him the McDonalds president or the mcW.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I’m missing your point Thulsa. I mean you DO know that Fox news IS “national news media” don’t you? You think THEY would be saying that? The “main stream media” thing is old, tired and worn out. I would venture to guess that more “conservatives: get their marching orders from talk radio and Fox than “liberals” do from what the conservatives falsely call “the main stream media.”
Think about it and then spout that party line no more if you have a working brain cell in your body. I mean PLEASE. When you AREN’T talking republican bumper sticker/ talk radio garbage, you make many valid points. Please use YOUR brain, not the catch phrases make the “points’ for you. I like you better that way………
I know, you don’t care if I like you or not, but think of your self respect……..
Fred
June 28th, 2011
11:17 pm
the Truth
June 28th, 2011
10:47 pm
====================
Please tell me you were joking with that post. Or at least DRUNK. It pains me to think that anyone could be so stupid as to believe what you posted……..
oldguy
June 28th, 2011
11:17 pm
Hey independent,
Did Obozo ever have a job??
oldguy
June 28th, 2011
11:17 pm
Enter your comments here
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
11:20 pm
I would venture to guess that more “conservatives: get their marching orders from talk radio and Fox than “liberals” do from what the conservatives falsely call “the main stream media.”
I guess if you guessed it, it is now a fact. Way to bring the heat.
Fred
June 28th, 2011
11:20 pm
Hey oldguy? Who is Obozo?
Fred
June 28th, 2011
11:21 pm
Nice try Mr. Charlie. Well really, it’s not. But it’s what you mindless fanatics, left AND right post when there is something not covered in your handbook. We independents KNOW the difference. We also decide the elections…….
Get an argument
June 28th, 2011
11:22 pm
oldguy
June 28th, 2011
11:17 pm
Hey independent,
Did Obozo ever have a job??
Probably not. I mean would someone with a degree from Columbia and Harvard Law School get a degree? You would be lucky to have just half his smarts.
oldguy
June 28th, 2011
11:22 pm
The clown-in-chief of course
Get an argument
June 28th, 2011
11:23 pm
***…get a job (that is…)
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
11:25 pm
Fred,
What talking points are you talking about? The observation that the national media would be calling W the big mac president if his economy only produced 50k jobs and half of them mcdonald’s jobs is my own original thought. I don’t know where or why you come up with all this nonsense about marching orders and whatnot. I watch Fox for a conservative perspective, CNN, and usually ABC. That’s 2 liberal networks and 1 conservative that I alternate between. I suspect many people both libs and cons do the same.
oldguy
June 28th, 2011
11:26 pm
hey Get,
show me his transcript and QPA
can you say “affirmative action”?
I didn’t realize you were suposed to retire after graduating!
God, I worked for 47 years for nothing!!!!
Kamchak
June 28th, 2011
11:26 pm
Enter your comments anywhere else but here
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
11:27 pm
Kammy you love it when I enter there.
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
11:28 pm
Now, Thulsa, Fred has his preconceived notions about virtually everybody on this blog, and he’s not going to be dissuaded from those notions, no matter how wrong he is.
Get an argument
June 28th, 2011
11:29 pm
Let’s see your transcripts. No college in this country would release anyone’s transcripts. He graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School.
Perhaps if you attended college, and got a decent degree, you wouldn’t have had to work for 47 years.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
11:34 pm
Dave R.
I was about to say. Mighty arrogant of one to think he is the sole arbiter of reason and rationale and that everyone else on here on the left or the right takes their “marching orders” from what ever left or right wing news outlet they watch. Hell I thought I had some gall but I aint got nothin on Fred.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
11:34 pm
Well, I don’t care where he went to college, or his grades were. He did appear to throw $800,000,000,000 down a rat hole, so I would have to say economics was not his strong point.
yuzeyurbrane
June 28th, 2011
11:35 pm
Bachman could be to Romney what Palin was to McCain. So don’t count on Romney to trash her unless she becomes a serious threat. Don’t look for quick implosion because, unlike Palin, she has hired Ed Rollins to keep her foot out of her mouth and so far appears far more malleable than Palin. But it will be a tough job even for a pro like Rollins once the national media glare becomes more intense.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
11:36 pm
Somebody, Obama spend 800 BILLION dollar on apparently nothing. Has that sunk in yet?
oldguy
June 28th, 2011
11:38 pm
NCSU – BS – Chemical Engineering – 1964 2.63 QPA
NCSU – MS – Computer Science – 1981 3.62 QPA
Air Force Institute of Technology – Certification in Software Engineering – 1988 3.79 QPA
BTW:
Pres Bush’s University records are a matter of record. Why not Obozos? something to hide?
Nite Nite
June 28th, 2011
11:40 pm
The level of stupidity here never ceases to amaze me. Perhaps it is because it’s late and people are tired, but I fear it is not.
oldguy
June 28th, 2011
11:41 pm
5 -2 South Carolina over Florida GO GAMECOCKS
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
11:41 pm
oldguy,
Chemical engineering? You’ll get no argument from me on smarts. Nor on software engineering. BTW I believe Obama’s undergrad degree was in political science. Not exactly a tough degree at any college- even a Harvard.
oldguy
June 28th, 2011
11:46 pm
He’s not dumb, for sure, so we have to assume that he is doing what he planned;
i.e. run the economy and the country into the ground!!
Get an Argument
June 28th, 2011
11:47 pm
Wow oldguy… good thing you had those electives to help pad that awesome GPA of 2.63 at college not exactly known for their ChemE program….. Simply means you had less than a 2.0 in your (only tough) chemistry and engineering courses.
I am real impressed. You have more than proved my point.
oldguy
June 28th, 2011
11:49 pm
BTW Thulsa;
I partied a bit too much as an undergraduate!!
Also I dated and married (and divorsed) a Duke girl during this time!!
oldguy
June 28th, 2011
11:50 pm
Chem E at NC State is a good cut above GT.
oldguy
June 28th, 2011
11:52 pm
Hey Get,
Where did you work?
I retired as a Crew Commander for HQ USAF Reserve Command Robins AFB.
oldguy
June 28th, 2011
11:56 pm
Have to call my daughter in Canada, its her birthday.
Later
Get an Argument
June 28th, 2011
11:56 pm
Great use of that 2.63 ChemE degree. (I actually got an ME degree from GT with a 3.39 gpa.)
Just wait...
June 29th, 2011
12:02 am
Ha! oldguy on here complaining about government spending, all the while living off the govt teat with his Air Force pension. Priceless.
Thulsa Doom
June 29th, 2011
12:03 am
I’m out. Ya’ll have a good night.
getajob
June 29th, 2011
12:06 am
getanargument,
Oldguy earned his retirement- he didn’t sit on his ass. Judging from your great academic performance you must be sitting on your ass and unemployed. Just another youngster who can’t get a job in the Obama economy but loves to harass older men who’ve lived full lives. You’ll be harping on your gpa for years before you can get a job. Loser.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award"......
June 29th, 2011
12:17 am
Get an Argument
June 28th, 2011
11:56 pm
“I actually got an ME degree from GT with a 3.39 gpa.”
Riiight. Why not tell us about your 450 lb bench press and 9 inch crank while you’re at it.
ken
June 29th, 2011
12:27 am
From theman that bought into all of Obama’s lies !!!!!!!!!
oldguy
June 29th, 2011
12:28 am
One point;
Neither you nor I are running the country or running for public office!
Obama is both!!
p.s. he has yet to show me his “superior intellect” I keep hearing about it from the likes of “Tingle up the leg” Matthews (was he sitting next to Barney Frank when he felt the tingle??).
Dave R.
June 29th, 2011
12:37 am
As with everything in life, it’s not what you’ve got, but how you use it.
Which is why Hope & Follow ™ is a complete failure as a President.
jewcowboy
June 29th, 2011
12:48 am
Sheesh…you people can talk a long time about nothing…….
jewcowboy
June 29th, 2011
12:56 am
And didn’t Dave R. end this topic at 3.29 when he wrote, “It’s just that Bachmann is bat-sh*t crazy”?
Discussion over…Good morning.
Gandalf the Wise
June 29th, 2011
1:21 am
Adams comment that Nancy P isn’t crazy is the funniest thing I have ever read here!
That’s just silly!
Gandalf the Wise
June 29th, 2011
1:23 am
Why do you think Barry flew to Iowa? He’s is scared to death of Michelle! He’s such a flake any one should scare him. What’s funny is people still support him after he has screwed us so badly! You Obama supports need to wake up and see what he’s done to you!
Gandalf the Wise
June 29th, 2011
1:25 am
Get an Arguement:
have you ever heard of affirmative action? That’s how someone like Obama get’s a Harvard Law degree!
Gandalf the Wise
June 29th, 2011
1:27 am
Nite Nite:
the level of stupidity rises when you post late at night, I agree!
theyeshaveit
June 29th, 2011
1:33 am
When we are discussing entitlements, just remember, the Bachmann family business was not bashful about collecting Medicare monies. Late Night Headline: Bachmann’s husband got $137,000 in Medicaid funds
guy
June 29th, 2011
3:12 am
All I can say is Pelosi supporters are very simple minded to be impressed with her.What a shame and disgrace!
joe suggs
June 29th, 2011
6:12 am
Adam , so you agree with destroying our Health Care System and giving tens of millions of illegals amnesty and thus putting them on welfare rolls !
marykinsey
June 29th, 2011
6:30 am
Michele Bachmann says some strange and inaccurate stuff (like, how our founders worked from day one to abolish slavery). However, the soundbite of the moment is purely over-reaching. I doubt that anyone but those desperate to make her look (even more) foolish would have given a moment’s thought to Gacy. http://bit.ly/lb4trf
Normal
June 29th, 2011
6:49 am
Good Wednesday morning tp all y’all…
http://icanhascheezburger.com/2011/06/28/funny-pictures-around-the-interwebs-43/
and…
http://icanhascheezburger.com/2011/06/28/funny-pictures-mouse-makes-deal-with-cats/
Joel Edge
June 29th, 2011
6:52 am
“In the harsh glare of the national spotlight, wackiness will out itself in time.”
Agreed, Jay. Look what’s it’s done to Obama and Biden. And Pelosi. And Reid. And Edwards
You get the idea.
stands for decibels
June 29th, 2011
7:08 am
mornin’.
Seriously, don’t overthink it.
Granny Godzilla
June 29th, 2011
7:18 am
What a wonderful morning! I slept better than I have in months.
The very idea of Michelle Bachmann on the GOP ticket – either spot -
gave me that warm fuzzy feeling of safety that another term for President Obama would be assured.
Bachmann/Whoever 2012
Whoever/Bachmann 2012
Oh yes please!
Larry
June 29th, 2011
7:20 am
But like Cain, she is not someone to be taken seriously as a potential occupant of the White House.
Obama is??????????????????????????????????????????????
stands for decibels
June 29th, 2011
7:32 am
but GG–with visionary ideas like campaigning to abolish the minimum wage, how can Michelle Bachmann lose?
stands for decibels
June 29th, 2011
7:33 am
Larry, Joel, a tip.
Merely mentioning people you don’t like is not a counter-argument.
Larry
June 29th, 2011
7:35 am
stands for decibels
Wow, thanks!
the Truth
June 29th, 2011
7:37 am
I wonder how WHITE people have forgot about the 8 horrible years of G. Bush that put America in this mess?.I guess the sight of a BLACK man as president gave them amnesia!
The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....
June 29th, 2011
7:40 am
Stands for decibels
June 29th, 2011
7:32 am
Interesting link. I did see where it stated “The jury is still out among economists” about her thoughts on ending regulations, including minimum wage. This being the case, why the snide remark about her “visionary ideas”. After all, “merely mentioning” a political position “you don’t like is not a counter-argument”.
stands for decibels
June 29th, 2011
7:41 am
Democracy Now had a good segment on Bachmann yesterday, and I think they pegged her appeal rather nicely. From their rush transcript:
She often talks about, in her speeches, what she calls a “Christian worldview,” which is a really important concept, I think, for people to understand, not just Michele Bachmann, but much of the modern right. It essentially holds that Christianity, or at least their version of Christianity, is a total ideology. It has all the answers, not just to theological questions, but to historical questions, scientific questions, economic questions. And so, you know, what I’ve tried to get across in writing and speaking about Michelle Bachmann is that she’s not stupid, you know? And she’s not Sarah Palin, in that she doesn’t—she’s articulate. She’s, I think, a little bit faster on her feet. She’s just incredibly steeped in a body of knowledge, that is not—she’s incredibly steeped in a corpus of facts that aren’t true facts. She’s incredibly steeped in the alternate reality of the movement that I called “Christian nationalism” in my first book.
And so, a lot of things that she says—you know, when she—for example, one of her most celebrated gaffes was when she talked about the founders of this country working tirelessly against slavery and how, you know, at the dawn of America, it didn’t matter what color you were, it didn’t matter your economic status. Of course, now, this is absurd, and everybody laughed at it, but if you look at some of, say, the books that she worked on when she was a student at Oral Roberts University, or you look at the whole kind of canon of Christian nationalist revisionist history, this stuff is all a truism. And so, to a lot of her base, this isn’t going to sound like gaffes. This is their reality.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....
June 29th, 2011
7:41 am
the Truth
June 29th, 2011
7:37 am
Wow, just wow. The race card got played at 7:37 AM. That’s “AM” for crying out loud. Aaaaaand we’re moving right along…..
Granny Godzilla
June 29th, 2011
7:42 am
With all the $$$ she and her husband have recieved from the government -
why would Rep. Bachmann ever have to worry about the minimum wage?
Hell, why should Eric Cantor worry about the debt ceiling fight?
He’s invested in a financial instrument that will make money if we default.
Jon Kyl defends tax subsidies for oil companies because they shower him with money.
Just sayin’
stands for decibels
June 29th, 2011
7:43 am
This being the case, why the snide remark about her “visionary ideas”. After all, “merely mentioning” a political position “you don’t like is not a counter-argument”.
Leg, sorry. I’ll be more explicit. Anyone stupid enough to campaign on ending the minimum wage will lose a general election. That person will lose it very very very badly.
Gale
June 29th, 2011
7:45 am
the Truth: The race card, so early this morning? After all this time, do people really believe those who disagree with Obama’s plans are racist? Wake up.
seabeau
June 29th, 2011
7:45 am
Adam!! Pelosi and her cronies recently released a paper bemoaning all the American weapons in Mexico!! Little did she realize that the Mexicans were supplied by The US Justice Dept. and the ATL. Google ATL’s The Fast and the Furious, for a look at this administrations total lack of morality,the Audacity of DOPES !! Obama,Holder and Tarver,what a team!!
The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....
June 29th, 2011
7:48 am
stands for decibels
June 29th, 2011
7:41 am
Ah, yes, Democracy Now. It’s part of the Pacifica Radio chain that is “known for its progressive/liberal political orientation”. Nice how liberals have tried to indoctrinate the American public by rebranding themselves as “progressives”.
the Truth
June 29th, 2011
7:50 am
Gale
June 29th, 2011
7:45 am
the Truth: “The race card, so early this morning? After all this time, do people really believe those who disagree with Obama’s plans are racist? Wake up.”
Yes, I do!..How could people bash Obama but not say anything bad about Bush, who really should have been arrested for some of his decision making, and is responsible for America being in debt, the economy, and thousands of innocent people who have died in 2 senseless trillion dollar wars?..You guys do remember Bush right?
Jefferson
June 29th, 2011
7:51 am
“She wasn’t fat when I married Her”, told a thousand times at class reunions…The GOP will paint a turd again. HA,
Thomas
June 29th, 2011
7:52 am
Did anyone catch that movie this morning on the news? It looked a lot like Europeans protesting something and the gov’t tear gassing in response. I don’t remember seeing the trailer. Anyway, I hope we have a President that steers us to more of a European model- it seems to kind of cool.
I am with the libs- Bachmann is really stupid- I had to think long and hard on that one.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....
June 29th, 2011
7:52 am
stands for decibels
June 29th, 2011
7:43 am
I’m not doubting what you say as I have no proof otherwise. However, the link you provided said economists were divided as to whether or not it was a good idea. I WANT people telling me their true positions on issues so I can make an educated decision. What I don’t like is a politician hiding their core beliefs and saying stupid things like “my position is evolving”.
Am I a Bachmann fan? No. Do I agree with all of her political positions? No. Is she equally qualified, in 2012, to be POTUS as Obama was in 2008? Overwhelmingly yes.
Gale
June 29th, 2011
7:54 am
Truth, you have not been paying attention. Bush gets plenty of blame for the state of affairs, as do several earlier presidents and high officials. Opposition to Obama has very little to do with his color.
stands for decibels
June 29th, 2011
7:55 am
Leg, I guess there’s a point you’re trying to make, somewhere, @ 7.48 but I’ll be damned if I can figure out what it might be.
Are you upset that progressives like me tend to prefer the term “progressive” for self-identification, or that Pacifica Radio has been around for most of our lives?
If you’re unaware of the lack of love some left wingers have had for the term “liberal,” and for how long that goes back, might I suggest listening to this 40-year-old ditty?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw
(What any of this has to do with the point DN made about the alternative Christian-right reality, I’ve no idea.)
MHS
June 29th, 2011
7:56 am
You should concentrate on who has the job and quit worrying about who might get the job. The country can’t afford the 18 months this nut has left and you want to possibly give him four more years. You guys/gals are definitely as nutty as Pelosi and Reid and no one gets any nuttier than those two old peanuts.
Gale
June 29th, 2011
7:57 am
I hate to say it, but apparently Bachmann is in her third term. I guess that does make her at least as qualified as Obama. That said, I did not think Obama was ready to be president either.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....
June 29th, 2011
7:58 am
stands for decibels
June 29th, 2011
7:55 am
Let me slow down and clear it up for you. Try to follow keep up.
You posted an article from Democracy Now that torches Bachmann. Wow. A liberal rag posts an article that crucifies a conservative. How novel. I suppose you would totally agree with me about a particular issue if I quoted the National Review or Rush Limbaugh, right?
stands for decibels
June 29th, 2011
7:58 am
The link you provided said economists were divided as to whether or not it was a good idea.
(shrug.) The link I provided was mainly to give a cite for Bachmann’s comments. The stuff you’re talking about is ABC news’ spin on just how nutty her idea about eliminating the minimum wage to increase employment really is.
Obviously you can always find some AEI/Chamber of Commerce-type econ guys to say that workers really need to be screwed a little worse than they are now. It’s what they’re paid to do.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....
June 29th, 2011
8:00 am
Gale
June 29th, 2011
7:57 am
Agreed. They both “technically” qualify (citizen of the USA, 35 years or older, etc) but neither were the best choices for their respective parties based on their abilities.
stands for decibels
June 29th, 2011
8:01 am
You posted an article from Democracy Now that torches Bachmann. Wow. A liberal rag posts an article that crucifies a conservative.
Yes, and? I said I thought they had her appeal pegged pretty well. I wouldn’t expect conservatives to agree.
(and for the record, it’s not a “rag,” in that DN is not now nor has it ever been a printed publication, but rather a radio/tv show.)
Gale
June 29th, 2011
8:02 am
I have noticed that the incumbent is often reelected regardless of how bad many people claim his/her record is, largely because the opposition party presents an equally bad or unknown candidate. Just take a look at the GOP hopefuls. The Dems are confident enough that no candidate has publicly suggested a run.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....
June 29th, 2011
8:03 am
stands for decibels
June 29th, 2011
8:01 am
Um….pardon me on the technicality. Would you prefer “liberal broadcast”?
stands for decibels
June 29th, 2011
8:04 am
tax sheets, bitches.
Gale
June 29th, 2011
8:04 am
going upstairs.
Flashback
June 29th, 2011
8:05 am
Michelle Bachmann accuses Congress of being un-American
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_pN2IPAw6E
tireofit
June 29th, 2011
8:17 am
Another republican lie:
Cantor “We were promised. The president said we would keep unemployment under 8.5 percent (if the stimulus passed)”.
Typically republican process: If you repeat the lie enough it becomes the truth, at least to their indoctrinated followers
Julia
June 29th, 2011
8:27 am
let’s see, Bachmann is for smaller government, trimming the fat, ending subsidies…unless that fat, those subsidies are going in her pocket of course. her late father in law’s farm. her husband’s mental health clinics (THAT one is rich in irony). all the money she receives for all of those foster children. then there is the undeniable fact that she is a wild eyed religious zealot who will stop at nothing to impose HER brand of religion on the nation. she like so many of her conservative pals scare the living daylights out of me.
Goldie
June 29th, 2011
8:27 am
Gotta love it when Bachmann Moron Overdrive declares that she wants an investigation into Congress’s anti-American acitivities — apparently we never got enough of Joseph McCarthy’s investigations 50 years ago!
Ronin
June 29th, 2011
11:09 am
Jay,
“For the time being, people are enamored of Bachmann because she is saying things they like to hear (the same trend drove the early support for Herman Cain.) But like Cain, she is not someone to be taken seriously as a potential occupant of the White House.”
Eghhh, not so fast. Your normally keen intellect has has dismissed a large constant in making that statement. That is: PEOPLE ARE STUPID. Never, ever underestimate the obtuse, especially when their vote is equal to yours.
Gm
June 29th, 2011
12:47 pm
Goverment get your hands out of my pocket: unless the money goes to help her and her husband directly or the tea bag hypocrites where most of them are on medicare, cashing their SSI, Va checks.
Once again low middle class angry conservatives whites following another hypocrite phony..
independent thinker
June 29th, 2011
1:02 pm
Just like Caribou Barbie a/k/a the former mayor of Wasilla a/k/a attempted governor of Alaska , Ms. Bachmann has no accomplishments of any note other than her self aggrandizing mouth, her self disclosure of being on the federal and state dole, being a religious nut who wants to impose the Christian version of Shariah law and her hatred for Barack Obama- and absolute hatred for gays including her step sister,_____________ quite an impressive record!!!!!!!!!!!!
saywhat?
June 29th, 2011
7:53 pm
the final word: http://www.thismodernworld.com/blog/TMW2011-06-22colorlowres.jpg
Test
July 5th, 2011
9:59 am
“And perhaps just as important, we are long past the days when we condemn a population to servitude in
manual labor</strike) government dependency, allowing them to do that but dream of nothing else.”It is a swap off for the DNC. They choose dependency over manual labor.
Test
July 5th, 2011
10:03 am
“And perhaps just as important, we are long past the days when we condemn a population to servitude in
manual laborgovernment dependency, allowing them to do that but dream of nothing else.”It is a swap off for the DNC. They choose dependency over manual labor.