Bachmann: Wackiness will out itself in time
Michele Bachmann, in a dead heat with Mitt Romney in Iowa in the latest Des Moines Register poll, got some more good news from Gallup today.
Under the headline “Bachmann in Strong Position as She Enters 2012 Race,” Gallup reports that the Minnesota congresswoman “enters the race with 69% name recognition among Republicans and ties for the highest Positive Intensity Score of any GOP candidate Gallup tracks.”
(Gallup defines “positive intensity” as the percentage of those who strongly favor the candidate minus the percentage that strongly opposes him or her.)
Note that Newt Gingrich, one of the best known of the GOP candidates, has a positive intensity rating of 2 among his fellow Republicans. And Tim Pawlenty is turning out to be the kind of man who can’t excite anyone but his dog back home, if he has one. With a PIR of 8, he trails even Rick Santorum. (In GOP presidential politics, Santorum serves as the equivalent of baseball’s Mario Mendoza.)
Pawlenty is counting on performing well in Iowa, but after weeks of working the state, he’s still at just 6 percent in the Register poll. It ain’t happening for TPaw.
According to a Register analysis of its poll:
Bachmann, 55, rates the strongest with very conservative caucusgoers, along with those who are well-educated and ages 45 to 64.
More respondents pick her as their second choice, 18 percent, than name Romney, 10 percent.
“Michele Bachmann has always looked like a fit for Iowa on paper, and the debate likely helped solidify her standing,” pollster J. Ann Selzer said. “This poll confirms she has potential to do very well here.”
Me, I’m not buying it. I’ll admit to being surprised by the degree of discipline that Bachmann has demonstrated to date, but it won’t last. In the harsh glare of the national spotlight, wackiness will out itself in time.
As Ron Carey, a former chief of staff for Bachmann and now a Pawlenty backer, writes in the Register:
“The Bachmann campaign and congressional offices I inherited were wildly out of control. Stacks upon stacks of unopened contributions filled the campaign office while thousands of communications from citizens waited for an answer. If she is unable, or unwilling, to handle the basic duties of a campaign or congressional office, how could she possibly manage the magnitude of the presidency?”
For the time being, people are enamored of Bachmann because she is saying things they like to hear (the same trend drove the early support for Herman Cain.) But like Cain, she is not someone to be taken seriously as a potential occupant of the White House.
– Jay Bookman
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Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
8:54 pm
keep up,
Actually that was Boortz that called them that after that Walmart video 3 days ago where 3 of these ahem “urban gentleman” just walked out of walmart with a couple cases of beer and a white woman jumped on their hood to try and stop them. Cops ended up getting all 3 of the “urban gentleman”. Sorry to see the Dems lose a few more voters.
wet wiccan
June 28th, 2011
8:55 pm
It’s like a bad reality show. Dusty is right. Who in their right mind would ever want to run for president? You are followed constantly, everything you says is analyzed or spun. Personal life? Ha! I do not agree with Bachmann’s politics, but I am respectful of what she has accomplished in her life. A very high-profile career and raising a family. There are some smart women in Washington like Elizabeth Warren, but the circus would eat her alive.
MiltonMan
June 28th, 2011
8:56 pm
Liberals defending Pelosi & stating that she never made the comment about passing ObozoCare to find out what is in it???
Liberals on here must be by-products of the APS education system.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
8:56 pm
To my conservative friends:
Vote early and vote OFTEN ! The libs. will !
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Fletch
June 28th, 2011
8:56 pm
Sooth – “the guy the Left needs to watch is Jon Huntsman. Of all the candidates he has the appeal for the GREAT MIDDLE, i.e., independents”
Agreed, He was an excellent Governor of my home state of Utah, has the business experience and the foreign relations experience that make a well rounded candidate. Unfortunately, I think his downfall will be the fact that he doesn’t engage in “attack” ads, nor does he try to get his message across by berating his opponents. So unless he’s willing to come out with a daily rant about how Obama is an idiot responsible for bringing America to it’s knees, no one on here will ever hear his message.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
8:58 pm
MiltonMan,
I disagree with you. I think the libs on here are graduates of the Clayton County school system.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
June 28th, 2011
8:58 pm
Doom, being particularly racist tonight aren’t you? Sorry, I’ll leave the bedwetting to you. bet you’re yearning for the days when the thugs were all Irish or some nonsense.
Doggone/GA
June 28th, 2011
8:59 pm
“stating that she never made the comment about passing ObozoCare to find out what is in it???”
Nope. Just correcting it to what she ACTUALLY SAID.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
9:00 pm
Recon:
We may live to see some of this but I feel in the years ahead (20? 30?) that America will “fragment” of it’s own accord ………… hopefully peacefully.
The Northwest may be the first to go ………… Hawaii and independent country again?
Then the Southwest ………………… believe it or not, the last states to hold on to the “old Union” will be the Southern States.
Who would have “thunk it” ?
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
9:00 pm
The far left is a small percentage of the population in this country but they’ve caused extensive damage over several years. I think we’re reaching a tipping point for the majority.
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
9:02 pm
This message is for my friends on the Right: Be careful what you wish for. You have, unwittingly, been mass indoctrinated by the Power Elite through Lush, Bellow, Speck, Vannity, and Dorkz to believe that totalitarian corporate fascism is what this country needs.
Once we go “through the looking glass” it will too late. There won’t be any cavalry riding over the hill to save us. It’s a thin line to cross. Think about what you have been led to believe. Ask yourself, who will benefit?
You have been indoctrinated to believe that unions are greedy, corrupt, evil. Yet most of the gains working people in this country enjoy are the result of unions.
In this same line of reasoning you have been indoctrinated to believe that “free(sic) trade” is good for America. Even in light of millions out of work and 46,000 American factories closed you still cling to your beliefs. “Free(sic) trade” is only good for corporations’ bottom line. It has devastated America.
You have been indoctrinated to believe that Social Security and Medicare are socialist and going broke. Neither are true. The truth is that the Social Security trust fund has been robbed of $2,000,000,000,000.00 by your Federal government. Now that the bills are coming due, all of a sudden we need to “fix” Social Security and Medicare.
The list could go on and on. The important message is this. Who benefits from what you have been led to believe? A small group of uber rich or the greater population of America?
Imma Lib
June 28th, 2011
9:02 pm
Those poor flash mobbers. Those greedy store owners should just invite them in, and let them take what they want. Hmmmm…they all seem to be black. What’s up with that?
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:03 pm
Racist? No. Just having fun getting you guys all riled up. I was watching the news on flash mobs while blogging and decided to stir the hornets nest a bit. You just went for hit hook, line, and sinker. I figure since you guys are always screaming racism all the time I just gotta throw back at you once in awhile. You know just kinda even out a little bit the race card that you love to play all the time.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
9:03 pm
1811,
When America falls that will be the tipping point for our man upstairs.
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
9:05 pm
Josef,
Oh I remember. One of a kind but who knows what kind? Reminds me of e. e cumming and his poetry.such as “my sweet old etcetera” .. always wandering off to etcetera. And who knows what more etcetera….etc.etc.etc.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:06 pm
Hmmm. A lecture at 9:02 on indoctrination from a guy who will tell you with a straight face that 9/11 was an inside job by Bush. Oh but the irony!
Bruno
June 28th, 2011
9:08 pm
Here’s one for you, Brother Am:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeRJQ8T4r98
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
9:09 pm
Dusty, just do yourself a favor for once in your life, and actually read all the relevant information made available to you here this evening. But you won’t, will you?
Because you’re not gonna like the facts therein.
But it does not change them.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
9:10 pm
Thulsa Doom,
May be a nice guy otherwise but certainly disqualifies him from posting creditable opinions on this blog.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
June 28th, 2011
9:11 pm
Just having fun getting you guys all riled up.
Well you may think you riled someone up…frankly I just think you showed your own ignorance. I just picture you in your pointed hood and shouting ignorance. And to claim that you did this to merely rile someone up is like saying that you would yell out hate speech against those of Jewish faith just to stir them up. Yeah, what fun. Bet you are just a laugh riot at all the lynchings.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
9:13 pm
Keep,
Looks as though you got riled up.
the Truth
June 28th, 2011
9:14 pm
White America can not handle a BLACK president!..The end!
Bruno
June 28th, 2011
9:15 pm
One for Matti:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUOO38W8QBQ
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
9:16 pm
“White America can not handle a BLACK president!..The end!”
We haven’t had one as yet.
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
9:16 pm
Thulsa: I’m so glad you brought up the subject of 9/11! I love to talk about it!
Anyway what I wanted share with you all is that a far right wing friend of mine (I know, can you believe it?) thought I was crazy when I first broached the subject of the likelihood that 9/11 was an inside job. However, after presenting to him the numerous reasons why 9/11 couldn’t have happened the way it was described, he confessed to me the other day that he now believes that 9/11 was not an attack by “terrorists” but an attack by own government on innocent citizens for one purpose and one purpose only. To create a casus belli [cause for war] to lead the nation into its long descent into needless ghastly expensive wars.
Oh, and by the way, this is yet another example of indoctrination by your government.
Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
9:17 pm
C/o Recon :
“The far
leftright is a small percentage of the population in this country but they’ve caused extensive damage over several years. I think we’re reaching a tipping point for the majority.”getalife
June 28th, 2011
9:18 pm
We are facing the consequences of the w collapse.
We will come back.
Another bubble and all is forgotten.
Back to business and politics as usual.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:18 pm
keep up the good fight,
Lynchings? Yeah keep up. They happen all the time don’t they? What? 2 in 30 years- Michael Donald in Mobile in 1981 and james byrd almost a decade ago. When you resort to hyperbole like that you have no credibility. This is 2011 not 1811. Showing my own ignorance? What was I ignorant about? I never mentioned the race of the flash mob members? Who does all this flash mobbing anyway? Maybe you can enlighten me as to who is doing all this. You’re questioning my motives over why I riled you up? Very simple. I just saw the videos on the news on this new crime phenomenon and decided to mess with ya. I know you’re pro criminal. But I didn’t know you were a psychoanalyst or psychologist. Who knew? I thought you were just an ambulance chaser.
Realist
June 28th, 2011
9:18 pm
Dayum, Jay. You guys are so clueless. A can of orange juice will be better than the current President.
Josef
June 28th, 2011
9:19 pm
Duty…
I’m a big Cummings fan! And I know it’s a lower case c, but the new toy doesn’t see it that way..”
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
9:19 pm
LWM, don’t you just wish we’re a small percentage of the population…stand by.
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
June 28th, 2011
9:20 pm
Wacky is YOUR opinion. If you want to talk wacked, try NObama. Reality has left him.
Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
9:20 pm
getalife, I love the use of the letter w. Such an evocative letter.
Stands, as we all know, for : collapse. Advancing rigor mortis of empire.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:21 pm
Soothsayer,
To create a casus belli [cause for war] to lead the nation into its long descent into needless ghastly expensive wars.- sooth
Ok I’ll play your game for just a moment. What the hell purpose would a descent into needless, ghastly, expensive wars serve a president when presidents are judged on their domestic issues such as handling of the economy more than on anything else. What purpose could it possibly have served W to start off some war in a far away land just for the sake of starting a war? What purpose would be served?
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
9:23 pm
“A political order can be stable only if it is united by an external threat . . . Following Machiavelli, he maintained that if no external threat exists then one has to be manufactured”
– Robert Strauss, father of the Neocon movement
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
9:24 pm
AmVet,
I did better than read all the “relevant ” facts here. I used the internet to read all about Michelle Bachman. It was quite an illustrious story of a smart, well educated woman who has done many good things in her life. She also seems to be trying her best to make things better in these times in our country.
That said, I am not sure yet that I would choose her as a candidate. But the facts I learn from responsible sources far out weigh the oft twisted accusations and misinformation on this blog. Many here seem addicted to material obviously published to smear Republicans. It is easily recognized as material from a propaganda machine.
Ask Granny Godzilla how it works. She was a paid contributor during Obama’s campaign. She poured out liberal info like you wouldn’t believe. Used IN THE NEWs as her id. I don’t think she does that anymore but that is how much slanted info gets into the public view.
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
9:24 pm
Very smooth Fripp, B.
He’s on the studio cut from the 1977 album Peter Gabriel, though not this live version…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gduDj_dBoz0
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:24 pm
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
9:16 pm
“White America can not handle a BLACK president!..The end!”
We haven’t had one as yet.
Recon,
I dunno. Wasn’t Bill Clinton the nation’s first black president? According to Maya Angelou and others he was.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
9:25 pm
This thread is clearly burned out and now it’s just pi$$ing in pockets. Taps y’all, I’m out.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
June 28th, 2011
9:25 pm
Doom…typical. You post your nonsense then whine like a baby..who me racist? Like I said, bet you are fun at all your clan meetings. A regular riot just there to support them because you want to rile people up with hate speech. I’m not going back through your nonsense of “urban gentlemen” and answering the phone “Yo”. Simply own up to being a racist or just own up to be so ignorant of what hate speech does that you think its funny to use hate speech. I doubt anyone can enlighten you when you think using hate speech is fun.
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
9:26 pm
“What purpose could it possibly have served W to start off some war in a far away land just for the sake of starting a war? What purpose would be served?”
Thulsa, you surprise me! Who on Earth could possibly benefit from the $TRILLIONS we have wasted on needless wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and now, Libya? Defense contractors? Nah!
Paulo977
June 28th, 2011
9:26 pm
AmVet
Just Run For The Roses!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o73AuvnxGDs&feature=related
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:27 pm
sooth,
Say machiavelli = robert strauss= W? huh? is there supposed to be some logic here?
oldguy
June 28th, 2011
9:29 pm
Ah Jay,
Its good to see you got the Memo from the Lib establishment to attack Bachmann; I was afraid you were out of the loop. Be sure to point out that she is female and conservative so she must be a loon!!
George Soros will be pleased. Your check is in the mail.
The Community Organizer
June 28th, 2011
9:30 pm
Hi guys, I’m leaving the 57th state, on my way to the 58th. Gonna visit some Navy Korpsemen, then on to see some Memorial Day Veterans. I’m hoping I can stop by the ER and visit with some kids and talk about their Asthma breathalizer…I mean.. inhalator.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:31 pm
Sooth,
That would make sense except that Rumsfeld and I assume Bush and Cheney all had to divest of their holdings in many stocks- particularly oil and defense stocks, as a result of their positions. Rummy was talking about it in a press conference and stated that it cost him 20k in accounting fees to go through some blind trusts and eliminate any and all possible holdings in companies like Haliburton, etc to avoid conflicts of interest or just the appearance of conflicts of interest.
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
9:32 pm
Thulsa: he was quoting Machiavelli. Say, are you married? I’m always looking for a rich woman!
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:32 pm
The community organizer,
You gonna stop by and see that place called Lybia that you tweeted about and mispelled.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
9:33 pm
Recon:
I hear you but in all my studies and research you don’t find the U.S. in prophecy especially concerning Israel and their “almost” fate.
That means we have fragmented or become so insignificant as to not be a player on the world stage.
Given enough time …….. it has happened to every country before us.
Josef
June 28th, 2011
9:33 pm
Thulsa
Lynchigs? Does the name Matthew Shepherd mean anything to you?
Truth
Oh, please! White American votes put him there. You’re in your own cave.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:33 pm
Sooth,
I think you know very well that I’m a guy. Nice try at an insult but you’ll have to do better than that.
oldguy
June 28th, 2011
9:34 pm
the truth,
How about this, I will only vote against Obozo’s white half! Will that meet your criteria??
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
9:35 pm
Thanks Paulo,
Even after almost four years, I still hate it that he is gone already.
He truly was one of my very favorites.
He was from Illinois.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u05eH6cYRSI
Soothsayerc
June 28th, 2011
9:35 pm
Not divest, place in blind trust. Let me get this straight: you really believe that the Military Industrial Complex has not benefited from the conflicts of the past 11 – 12 years. You’re not really going to say that are you?
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
9:37 pm
Thulsa: my sincerest apologies. I could have sworn someone said on here the other night that you were a woman. In that case, I’m taking off the gloves.
The Community Organizer
June 28th, 2011
9:37 pm
Thulsa
Hey, I may stop by Lybia..teehee…ya know that’s a tough one to spell! Gotta wait for Michelle to get back from that $800K taxpayer Vacation! Did you see her eatin those french fries?
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
9:37 pm
1811,
I’ll fight to my last breath if I’m still around. Now Taps.
Bruno
June 28th, 2011
9:38 pm
Am–Nice rare Gabriel clip.
josef–Are you gonna have a drink ready for me on the 4th?? I’ll be running past your neighborhood somewhere around 8:25 during the Peachtree Road Race, way at the back of the pack.
the Truth
June 28th, 2011
9:39 pm
@Soothsayer
you are correct, 911 was an inside job done by the Goverment, white people lied to get America in Vietnam also, they used 911 as a excuse to invade Iraq and White people bought it lol..that proved to me that Whites really don’t care about their own race..They are so brained washed, they believe everything they see on TV..2 senseless TRILLION dollar wars is the reason why America is an debt, not welfare or whatever Whites think, the rich have decided that they don’t want to pay for 2 WARS!..Pat Tillman was about to expose the US about fighting fake wars, so the US decided that he must die!..
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
9:41 pm
Wet wiccan, 8:55
Thank you for seeing quite clearly how politics are going these days. Not any fun to see responsible people getting run down just for political reasons. Takes a brave person to even consider a political job! And I might add, ’specially a woman..
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
9:42 pm
the Truth: change “white people” to your government and you’ve got it!
The Community Organizer
June 28th, 2011
9:42 pm
Hey! That scholar and intellectual giant, Cynthia McKinney said 9/11 was inside job. It HAS to be true.
Josef
June 28th, 2011
9:43 pm
Bruno
If we’re in town! Congrats…
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:45 pm
josef,
I don’t consider Matthew Sheperd a lynching. The 2 guys that killed him had robbery for money and drugs as their primary motive and were common criminals to begin with. Its not as if they were driving around looking for a gay man to kill. That’s a bunch of horse manure. They robbed him for money and drugs and the fact that he was gay and had made overtures to them only incensed them- insulting their manhood. It was then that they beat him and left him tied to a fence post. But positing that story as a lynching of a gay man for being gay is complete BS. And btw Josef during the same time I remember Oreilly talking about an attack that took place in arkansas where 2 gay men purposely attacked and raped a teenager heterosexual male. Oreilly asked a question that I also would like an answer to. Why was the Sheperd story so widely reported and mistakenly reported as a hate crime and why was this ark story never reported? Oreilly was the single person that reported it. Can you explain these discrepancies to me?
Paulo977
June 28th, 2011
9:46 pm
AmVet
“Even after almost four years, I still hate it that he is gone already”
All this talk about prostate cancer made me remember him!!!
getalife
June 28th, 2011
9:47 pm
Doom swallows every lie on fox news.
Sad but true.
Josef
June 28th, 2011
9:47 pm
It’s all the White folk’s fault. Them, the Jews, and the Ragpickers.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:47 pm
The Community Organizer
June 28th, 2011
9:37 pm
Thulsa
Hey, I may stop by Lybia..teehee…ya know that’s a tough one to spell! Gotta wait for Michelle to get back from that $800K taxpayer Vacation! Did you see her eatin those french fries?
What? Say it aint so. Michelle was eating fries? I thought she only ate veggies, fruits, and other heatlhy foods per her health and fitness campaign. Surely you jest?
bman
June 28th, 2011
9:50 pm
I couldn’t believe it when I saw a “Kerry/Edwards” bumper sticker today…..and I made him move his car.
Josef
June 28th, 2011
9:50 pm
Thulsa..
That post is pretty much why I don’t much care for you at a very personal level.
oldguy
June 28th, 2011
9:51 pm
rest well Recon;
Don’t forget to put out the tripwires and Claymours!!
Retreat for me.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:51 pm
keep up,
You don’t ever say yo to anyone. I do all the time. Urban gentleman is Boortz’s deal- not mine. I just borrowed it from him. Still whining about the race card cause you thought it was only your card to play. Keep whining.
TruthBe
June 28th, 2011
9:52 pm
Bachmann is much smarter, more trust worthy, a real Conservative, a real America, a Christian, a Tax Attorney, a Mother that foster 24 foster chidren and had 4 Children of her own, a Congresswomen, a Small Business Owner, created jobs, and someone that has a backbone that will stand for something. Unlike Obama who is a total disgrace as the president, a complete liar, a muslim, a communist, never had a job except community organizer and lawyer for the criminal enterprise Acorn, never ran a business, never been responsible for a payroll, a racist, a apologist for America to the entire world, a master at gattes, and hasn’t any throughts of his own to fix the economy. Jay you, Granny and the rest of the idiot liberals out there are the real problems with America. Please leave. China would be a perfect place for all of you and take the obamas with you.
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
9:52 pm
Now, don’t y’all be gangin’ up on poor ol’ Thulsa Doom ya hear?
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
9:53 pm
After, the real circumstances of Pat Tillman’s death emerged, and the Army revealed he was actually killed when a friendly unit raked Tillman’s position with machine guns. That is unfortunately normal fog of war stuff—friendly fire deaths are routine. What is shocking about Tillman’s death is how the Army deliberately covered it up, painting him as a selfless hero knowing full well that he was killed by his own side. A new investigation blames the entire chain of command, right up to the generals in charge, for their lies about the circumstances of Tillman’s death.
The one exception to my rule of never wearing the jersey of another man. His is the only one.
A heroes hero. (Besmirched by your friends at the Pentagon.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu0OO44MpYA&feature=fvst
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
9:55 pm
“China would be a perfect place for all of you and take the obamas with you.”
You know, I was just thinkin’ ’bout that the other day. If I was to go to China then maybe, at long last, I could find me one of them there jobs everone is talkin’ ’bout!
getalife
June 28th, 2011
9:56 pm
Truther,
Four more years.
Love it or leave it.
bachmann is a joke.
Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
9:57 pm
Soothsayer: ““A political order can be stable only if it is united by an external threat . . . Following Machiavelli, he maintained that if no external threat exists then one has to be manufactured””
Actually it’s LEO Strauss, not Robert, and this sounds to me like his warmed over idea he got from the German hard right jurist Carl Schmitt, whose basic theory was that the fundamental core, the bonding element between citizens is shared object of hatred, an enemy.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:57 pm
Josef,
That’s fine. I honestly don’t care. The young man’s death was tragic but as I pointed out the 2 punks that killed him had money and drugs as their primary motive- not gay bashing. That is an indisputable fact that you simply don’t like and don’t want to hear, and which you certainly failed to address. I can’t help that.
As for the example I pointed out I would still like to know why it is that that attack was not reported in the national media. And I suppose you have no answer to that or just don’t want to answer it. Seems to me that you want the media to portray an instance of what you perceive to be a gay bashing hate crime but wasn’t but you don’t want any gay attacks on young men to be reported?
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
9:58 pm
sooth,
I can take you all down. Bring it! Its like shooting fish in a barrel for me.
TruthBe
June 28th, 2011
10:00 pm
getalife, obama is a one term president only if he dosen’t get impeached for the corruption of his adminstration.
getalife
June 28th, 2011
10:03 pm
Doom,
You should change your name to fox news talking points.
You bring nothing but their spin on everything.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 28th, 2011
10:03 pm
josef:
Lynchigs? Does the name Henry Wirz mean anything to you ………………
?
TruthBe
June 28th, 2011
10:04 pm
Goodnite People. ANYBODY in 2012 but obama.
Finn McCool
June 28th, 2011
10:04 pm
Lol, Truth,
If you guys don’t find some serious candidates, Obama is going to steamroll this election even more than the last.
I want you guys to bring some heat, some competition; but so far it’s been silly.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
10:05 pm
Still waiting for your answer Josef.
BENTONVILLE, Ark. (BP)–The first of two homosexuals to be tried for raping and murdering 13-year-old Jesse Dirkhising was found guilty March 22 in Bentonville, Ark.
With Joshua Brown, 23, now convicted for the September 1999 rape and murder of the boy, Brown’s homosexual partner, Davis Carpenter, 39, will go to trial May 7.
The attack by two homosexuals against a young teen boy has stirred few reports in the national media. In Little Rock, only three stories are found in a search of the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette’s website. One of the stories focuses on the now-concluded trial of Brown; the other two stories deal with the media issue.
The sweeping amount of national coverage devoted to the 1998 killing of a homosexual, Matthew Shepard, by two men in Wyoming is being called into question, in terms of media bias, when compared to the lack of coverage devoted to two homosexuals who raped and murdered a seventh-grade boy.
A writer in The Washington Times noted March 23 that the Arkansas trial for young Dirkhising’s murder had not been mentioned by The New York Times, The Washington Post, USA Today, NBC, ABC, CBS or CNN.
Also being questioned: why such prominent figures as Sen. Edward Kennedy and Rep. Richard Gephardt, Democratic leader in the House of Representatives, were quick to decry the Shepard murder but have remained silent about young Dirkhising’s murder.
During the weeklong trial in Benton County, Ark., prosecutors charged that Brown sodomized the 13-year-old while Carpenter directed the assault in the men’s squalid one-bedroom apartment in Rogers, Ark. Police found instructions in the men’s apartment outlining the method by which Jesse was raped and killed.
The boy was gagged with a pair of dirty underwear during the five-hour assault and suffocated, as recounted by the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award"......
June 28th, 2011
10:05 pm
“Bachmann: Wackiness will out itself in time”
Then perhaps Bachmann needs to take a strong message to all 57 states and lay out her plan on that one 3-letter word, jobs….J – O – B – S.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award"......
June 28th, 2011
10:07 pm
Finn McCool
June 28th, 2011
10:04 pm
“…Obama is going to steamroll this election even more than the last.”
I don’t know if I believe that. After all, this time Obama actually has a record to run on and it’s not very impressive.
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
10:07 pm
LWM: you’re right, it was Leo Strauss. I don’t know how that quote could have been attributed to Robert Strauss.
“Perpetual war, not perpetual peace, is what Straussians believe in,” says Drury. The idea easily translates into, in her words, an “aggressive, belligerent foreign policy,” of the kind that has been advocated by neocon groups like PNAC [Project for a New American Century] (a far right-wing neoconservative group) and AEI [American Enterprise Institute] (another far right think tank) scholars – not to mention Wolfowitz and other administration hawks who have called for a world order dominated by U.S. military power. Strauss’ neoconservative students see foreign policy as a means to fulfill a “national destiny” – as Irving Kristol defined it already in 1983 – that goes far beyond the narrow confines of a ” myopic national security.”
This is a great article, I encourage all to read it!
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
10:13 pm
“I can take you all down. Bring it! Its like shooting fish in a barrel for me.”
I’ll hand this to you Thulsa, you hang in there longer than your other Rightie buddies. Most of them run for the woodwork when I turn the lights on!
You sure not a woman? I was really hoping I could get a ride in your SUV. Escalade, isn’t it? One of them “lo-o-o-ong wheelbase,” 9mpg ones, right?
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
10:15 pm
Tillman was NOT besmirched by anyone. The fact that he decided to fight for his country makes him a hero. All who fight for us in our volunteer military are heroes. But Tillman did give up notorority and riches to do his part. That gives us extra thought about his decision and add special luster to a brave man.
The fact that the military did not present the true facts about his death gives us second thoughts. We do not understand why they did that. I believe that they did not want Americans to know that such a snafu as friendly fire had occured. They wanted a special hero to have a special ending. So they made the story more acceptable. It was not good thinking on the part of those in charge. But it never deflects on Tillman who gave his life for his country. His life stands without blemish.
The agony endured by his family is understandable. I’m not sure the truth would have made it any easier. Tillman’s brother was disillusioned totally. Would the truth have helped him in any way? I don’t know. The truth is almost always better.
Goodnight. Time for the Braves!! Hanson is back!! Go BRAVES!!
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
10:16 pm
Sooth,
No caddie. Mid sized SUV with decent 20mpg gas mileage. Not that it should matter though. Are you sure not not one of them there transgendered folks sooth? See how easy that was.
Finn McCool
June 28th, 2011
10:18 pm
Both Bachmann’s brother AND husband are running businesses whose income depends on government subsidies.
Why can’t you Conservatives see through this stuff? You hear a line of talk you like and put on blinders! It’s like a teenager seeing a girl with big tatas eyeing him – nothing else matters, all logic sinks away. Just feed you the line……
Finn McCool
June 28th, 2011
10:20 pm
besmirched
Lol, Hannity! Can we call you “Dusty Shawn” or “Dusty Hannity”? Nobody else uses that term on the air, nobody.
We now know where Dusty gets her talking points.
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2011
10:21 pm
“Honor the LORD with your wealth,
with the firstfruits of all your crops;
then your barns will be filled to overflowing,
and your vats will brim over with new wine.”
Friends, your local church, synagogue, temple, tabernacle desperately needs your support — NOW! Give and it shall be given unto you. Even if you only have one dollar, GIVE! You won’t believe the benefits you will receive and the changes it will bring to your life!!
Goodnight everyone!
Finn McCool
June 28th, 2011
10:25 pm
Leg,
Jobs? It’s not just about jobs. You conservatives are looking for a lifeline to win!
Americans aren’t as stupid as you think. They would rather have a slow economy than elect a nutball to dig the hole deeper.
Most Americans DON’T watch Fox News so most Americans AREN’T ill-informed by that bag o steamy silliness.
Next time you want to talk about tv NEWS ratings, first do the real numbers – % of Americans with cable, % of Americans who watch news channels, and then, % of Americans who watch cable news channels.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award"......
June 28th, 2011
10:28 pm
Finn McCool
June 28th, 2011
10:18 pm
And you bought in to a “line of talk” about hope and change. Have you bought your raffle ticket yet to “dinner with Barack and Joe”?
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
10:28 pm
Finn McCool, you are right, when I want to be informed I watch WSBTV. Thats where the smart folks go.
Dusty
June 28th, 2011
10:30 pm
Finn McCool,@ 10:20
For your information, I used “besmirched’ because AmVet used it in his post @ 9:53. I was responding to that.
I can’t remember ever hearing or seeing Hannity. I don’t turn on the TV or the radio until the evening.
Your conclusions are incorrect. No surprise at that. .
The Leg Lamp is a "major award"......
June 28th, 2011
10:30 pm
Finn McCool
June 28th, 2011
10:25 pm
But a nutball WAS elected in 2008 and, as you said, we are in a deeper hole.