Bachmann: Wackiness will out itself in time
Michele Bachmann, in a dead heat with Mitt Romney in Iowa in the latest Des Moines Register poll, got some more good news from Gallup today.
Under the headline “Bachmann in Strong Position as She Enters 2012 Race,” Gallup reports that the Minnesota congresswoman “enters the race with 69% name recognition among Republicans and ties for the highest Positive Intensity Score of any GOP candidate Gallup tracks.”
(Gallup defines “positive intensity” as the percentage of those who strongly favor the candidate minus the percentage that strongly opposes him or her.)
Note that Newt Gingrich, one of the best known of the GOP candidates, has a positive intensity rating of 2 among his fellow Republicans. And Tim Pawlenty is turning out to be the kind of man who can’t excite anyone but his dog back home, if he has one. With a PIR of 8, he trails even Rick Santorum. (In GOP presidential politics, Santorum serves as the equivalent of baseball’s Mario Mendoza.)
Pawlenty is counting on performing well in Iowa, but after weeks of working the state, he’s still at just 6 percent in the Register poll. It ain’t happening for TPaw.
According to a Register analysis of its poll:
Bachmann, 55, rates the strongest with very conservative caucusgoers, along with those who are well-educated and ages 45 to 64.
More respondents pick her as their second choice, 18 percent, than name Romney, 10 percent.
“Michele Bachmann has always looked like a fit for Iowa on paper, and the debate likely helped solidify her standing,” pollster J. Ann Selzer said. “This poll confirms she has potential to do very well here.”
Me, I’m not buying it. I’ll admit to being surprised by the degree of discipline that Bachmann has demonstrated to date, but it won’t last. In the harsh glare of the national spotlight, wackiness will out itself in time.
As Ron Carey, a former chief of staff for Bachmann and now a Pawlenty backer, writes in the Register:
“The Bachmann campaign and congressional offices I inherited were wildly out of control. Stacks upon stacks of unopened contributions filled the campaign office while thousands of communications from citizens waited for an answer. If she is unable, or unwilling, to handle the basic duties of a campaign or congressional office, how could she possibly manage the magnitude of the presidency?”
For the time being, people are enamored of Bachmann because she is saying things they like to hear (the same trend drove the early support for Herman Cain.) But like Cain, she is not someone to be taken seriously as a potential occupant of the White House.
– Jay Bookman
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CJ
June 28th, 2011
4:53 pm
Answering Jay @4:34…
No.
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
4:53 pm
A staggeringly uninformed, religious zealot and extremist nutjob, who has accomplished zippety doo dah in her entire political career. And you hyper-desperate neo-cons want her anywhere near the nuclear football???
Alriiighty then…
“Normalization (of gayness) through desensitization. A very effective way to do this with a bunch of second graders is to take a picture of “The Lion King” for instance, and a teacher might say, “Do you know the music for this movie was written by a gay man?” The message is: I’m better at what I do because I’m gay.”
~ November 6, 2004 speech at Edwatch National Education Conference.
http://tinyurl.com/4acfovo
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
4:56 pm
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:41 pm
Thulsa Doom,
“an earlier Obama promise that his recovery plan will “save or create three to four million jobs over the next two years.”
How about 14M?
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/how-many-jobs-depend-on-the-big-three/
Jewcowboy,
If you’re going to post an article supporting your position then the least you can do is read your own article. The article opens with jennifer granholm dem governor of Michigan which has a pony in this fight stating that the auto industry collapse would mean 14 million jobs. The rest of the article is about how misleading this stat is- that its a completely bogus number and that it also comes from an auto industry study. You must have missed all that.
The second point is that Ford didn’t need the money anyway,
The third point is that if the Feds hadn’t bailed out Chrysler it in no way, shape or form means 14 millions jobs would have been lost- or even 100,000. Chrysler would have sought bankruptcy and kept operating, sold off its profitable jeep division, and or merged or been bought by a stronger car company. So you can’t even logically say that one Chrysler job would have been saved because you don’t know what would have happened.
Fourthly, as I’ve pointed out your own link contradicts your point of view and the 14 million stat that you just posted was blown completely out of the water BY YOUR OWN LINK.
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
4:58 pm
“Bachman Cain 2012″
Never happen. The GOP will nominate a right/moderate like Romney and balance that with a Tea Party conservative (but NOT Bachmann) for Vice-President.
And Hope & Follow ™ won for three distinct reasons:
1. The electorate was tired of the GOP brand of governance (and rightfully so).
2. Social conservatives DID sit on the sidelines (but not enough to make up the entire difference).
3. People bought the “I’m cool / American Idol” schtick like a snake oil salesman to a bunch of rubes.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:58 pm
“Carbon dioxide is natural, it is not harmful, it is a part of Earth’s lifecycle. And yet we’re being told that we have to reduce this natural substance, reduce the American standard of living, to create an arbitrary reduction in something that is naturally occuring in Earth.” ~ Michele Bachmann
So is sulfuric acid, mercury and arsenic…care to make a cup of tea out of either?
Whacks Eloquent
June 28th, 2011
5:00 pm
jewcowboy,
You drink carbonated tea?
josef
June 28th, 2011
5:02 pm
DAVE
Obama was taken “seriously” for the reasons you stated. He won because the economy went into tailspin right there at the last minute. All it takes is one last minute scandal or one last minute crisis. Then Matti and Granny will be singing a different tune.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:04 pm
Thulsa Doom,
My apologies, I was occupied by other things at the moment. I should have been more precise and not written 14M in response to your statement about “an earlier Obama promise that his recovery plan will “save or create three to four million jobs over the next two years.”
“In both cases, there would be major short-term shocks to employment; depending on which scenario you use, a contraction of the Detroit Three would result in direct and indirect job losses of 2.5 million to 3 million in 2009.”
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
5:04 pm
jewcowboy — “So is sulfuric acid, mercury and arsenic…care to make a cup of tea out of either?”
Come now. Arsenic tea is perfectly safe. It’s the same principle as it is with snakehandling.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_God_with_Signs_Following
Message from Matti
June 28th, 2011
5:07 pm
Dave R.,
I can’t totally disagree, but I have to attribute Obama’s win, in part, to the way McCrusty sneered with open contempt in the debate when he put finger quotes around the term “health of the woman.” For future reference, a candidate who does not give a rat’s fuzzy about women our our health should at least pretend to care. Or at least, not sneer so openly at the subject. (Just a tip, there!)
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:07 pm
Whacks Eloquent,
“You drink carbonated tea?”
No…a more potent potion called Diet Crack…I mean Coke…but there are these: http://coffeetea.about.com/od/teaandtisanebasics/a/SparklingTeas.htm
cosby smith
June 28th, 2011
5:07 pm
oh hum..another anti Republican candidate blog by Jay…wonder when he will post the truth about the Dems candidate..gold old Barry S. y’all know the community organizer – now that was a qualification for being President..as we sink further and further into a third world country – give ‘em hell Jay!!!
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June 28th, 2011
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Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
5:08 pm
jewcowboy: “Carbon dioxide is natural, it is not harmful, it is a part of Earth’s lifecycle. And yet we’re being told that we have to reduce this natural substance, reduce the American standard of living, to create an arbitrary reduction in something that is naturally occuring in Earth – Michelle Bachmann”
Well done. What’s striking about the statement is that there is no concern over TRUTH, over whether it might be possible for C2O to both be natural and also harmful to the atmosphere when released in ever larger quantities. Which in turn shows there is a failure to see the natural world as a system. Instead, all of it gets waved away as a threat to “American prosperity”, basically just a paranoid gesture.
Halftrack
June 28th, 2011
5:09 pm
Jay. It is so early in the running of the race. Some get out of the gate real fast. Others catch up within closing for the stretch run. Why are you so dismissive of the candidates now? Did you have these same thoughts about Hillary in 2008 race so early on? An emphatic NO!!! She has good trainers and will not become wacky as suggested – - – only media gets more wacky every day.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
5:09 pm
jewcowboy,
I understand. We all sometimes don’t read our entire links to see what point they are actually making and in this case if you just read the 1st paragraph one would be left with the impression that 14 million jobs were at stake.
But still I have to disagree. Ford was doing fine and is rocking along and making good money. My younger brother bought it at $4, sold at $9, and now I think its like $20. Chrysler was the only one that really needed a bailout and as I said if they didn’t get it they would have just restructured or been bought out. There likely would have been job losses but nowhere near 2.5-3 million jobs. Not even close. GM I believe was also ok and did not have to have the money. Even after the corrected numbers down to 2.5 to 3 million even then then that would never have happened because that’s supposing all 3 companies would have gone out of business and that just wasn’t going to happen.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
5:09 pm
We breath in Oxygen and breath out some carbon dioxide. I guess we should place a tax on the amount of carbon dioxide we emit so we can generate more revenues for liberal programs and save the planet from global warming.
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
5:10 pm
I’d love to see a Bachmann/Foghorn Leghorn debate…
“He won because the economy went into tailspin right there at the last minute.”
josef, I believe he won because the previous administration was a complete train wreck – pretty much from beginning to end. There was NO way that any Republican other than Abraham Lincoln could have won in 2008.
So, from what I can tell, we have exactly one GOP candidate who is not either a complete joke, or who is so generally unimpressive, there is no way people want them at 1600 Pa. Ave.
Right now, it is Mitten’s race to lose.
And he must feel like the 1998 Yankees…
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:13 pm
Can I just point out the obvious for a second. When someone like Dave R. writes, “It’s just that Bachmann is bat-sh*t crazy” then the woman has NO chance of winning…
Discussion over…
Don't Forget
June 28th, 2011
5:16 pm
Tom Petty to Bachman: Don’t use “American Girl” as a campaign song
josef
June 28th, 2011
5:16 pm
ZamVet
I beg to disagree…it was pretty much neck and neck up until the tailspin. I don’t disagree that there was not a lot of dissatisfaction with the GOP, but the middle was undecided and it was the tailspin that put the Democrats over the edge. All you have to do is to look at the margins in several of the key states to see that…
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
5:18 pm
jewcowboy,
Personally I think its a non-issue about Bachman anyway. I’m thinking Rick Perry takes it over Romney and that Marco Rubio has the VP locked up. The only thing about Bachman is that she has such a nauseating, whining type nasal voice. Shouldn’t have anything to do with anything but to be honest it grates on me for some reason. Its petty I know but nevertheless it drives me nuts to hear her voice.
I’m outta here. Yall have fun.
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
5:18 pm
“There was NO way that any Republican other than Abraham Lincoln could have won in 2008.”
And I wouldn’t have voted for HIM, either!
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
5:19 pm
The discussion may be over but the race is far from over unless one believes that all the nations issues our settled and finalized on Jay’s blog. Now that would be bat-sh*t crazy.
pogo
June 28th, 2011
5:19 pm
Jay continues on his quest to try to pick off the republican candidates one by one. If only someone in the gushing media (including Jay) would have properly vetted Obama in 2008, we would have all been better off. Granted, he would have probably won anyway because of the dismal offerings of the Republican party in that year and the dismal performance of the socialist George. W. Bush, but couldn’t someone have taken a closer look at Obama? Jay was all OK with electing one of the most under-qualified candidates to ever run for that office. And sadly, he will continue to support what I and most of the nation will come to know as the “The Big Mistake”.
Jay, at this point, are you not scared for the future of this country? Obama has done nothing to reverse the downward spiral we are caught in except to make it worse by insistance of more deficit spending. Are you not worried about the legacy that you are leaving for your children?
And because of our financial difficulties and the entitlement mentality that has enveloped America are you not afraid that we just may have end up as a society wherein our personnal freedoms are relinguished in exchange for some kind of menial government provided existance? There are millions of people in this country that have already made the decision to give over their freedom to the government and their promises. Aren’t you at least worried about this a little Jay? If you can’t see this as the end result of the road Obama and the progressives are proposing to take this nation, I pity you.
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
5:20 pm
I think jewcowboy’s 5:13 was a compliment . . .
. . . but I’m not entirely sure.
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
5:21 pm
Don’t Forget — “Tom Petty to Bachman: Don’t use “American Girl” as a campaign song”
May I recommend Nick Lowe’s “Raging Eyes?”
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
5:22 pm
I’d like to point out that pogo’s handle spelled backwards is “o, gop.”
That explains a lot.
Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
5:22 pm
Tom Petty to Bachman: Don’t use “American Girl” as a campaign song
Shades of Springsteen contra Reagan for “Born in the U.S.A.”.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:22 pm
Thulsa Doom,
“We all sometimes don’t read our entire links”
I did actually, I was just being lazy b/c I had some other things to do, so I just went with the number int he headline and didn’t write any explanation.
“But still I have to disagree.”
And feel free to speculate. You know why you have that luxury? B/c President Bush, President-elect Obama and a Democratic lead Congress had the foresight to push for a bailout. And for the record…both Chrysler and GM filed for bankruptcy….
Jay
June 28th, 2011
5:23 pm
Thulsa, GM was doomed without the money and nobody seriously disputes that. Do you think the stockholders ended up with nothing and the executive team agreed to leave because they could have survived without the money?
As Ford acknowledges, it too probably would have gone under except for the serendipitous fact that it had borrowed a huge amount of money for expansion overseas just before the implosion came, giving them enough money to tide them over. Without that happy accident, they would have been in much the same shape as GM and Chrysler.
pogo
June 28th, 2011
5:24 pm
The peoples house is now officially for sale. Obama is nothing but a sleazy Chicago politician.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/obama-pushing-behind-scenes-to-win-over-big-dollar-donors/2011/06/24/AGO5NGoH_print.html
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:25 pm
Dave R.,
“but I’m not entirely sure.”
Neither compliment nor slight…just the honest truth
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
5:26 pm
“Thulsa, GM was doomed without the money and nobody seriously disputes that.”
Actually, many seriously do, Jay.
Including Mitt Romney.
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
5:27 pm
Pogo — “The peoples house is now officially for sale.”
Talk about not reading your links . . . Pogo, did you even *read* the story all the way through? If so, then you missed this:
“The West Wing charm offensive shows how Obama’s White House, which has eschewed Clinton-style traditions of feeding donor egos with Lincoln bedroom overnights and frequent phone calls from the president, is adjusting itself for a campaign that needs to overcome low approval ratings and a sour economy.”
You know what “eschewed” means, don’t you?
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:28 pm
Well, we shoulda let GM collapse, along with Chrysler. Ford would be kicking even more booty today than ever.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:29 pm
Thulsa Doom,
“The only thing about Bachman is that she has such a nauseating, whining type nasal voice.”
That’s the ONLY thing? Though I can sympathize…Romeny’s voice drives me nuts. I have no idea why. I think I maybe perceive it a bit condescending…
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
5:29 pm
The automotive bailout was pay off to the unions. Many companies have come through bankruptcy and survived and there’s no proof that GM would not have been able to do so.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:29 pm
This stupid broad will be so forgotten about by this November. Why the big whoopla?
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:30 pm
Dave R.,
“Including Mitt Romney.”
Well we know he has a penchant for laying off people…
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:30 pm
I just say load up on ammo. Its coming.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:31 pm
Romney stands not chance. This crazy broad even less. We are doom to another 4 of Obama. It is gonna be flat out ugly….
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
5:31 pm
“11th Circuit rules for Georgia in water wars case”
Some sanity at the 11th Circuit.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:31 pm
Mr. Charlie,
“Well, we shoulda let GM collapse, along with Chrysler.”
Bite your tongue! If that would have happened I would never been able to reach 128 in my CTS-V. Screw jobs…that was worth the bailout to me…
Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
5:32 pm
The automotive bailout was pay off to the unions. Many companies have come through bankruptcy and survived and there’s no proof that GM would not have been able to do so.
Sorry, Recon, this post is just a load of blithering idiocy.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:32 pm
We have reached the “tipping point” in America where somebody like Obama can get elected. There are more with their hand out than there are contributing. It is gonna be kinda fun to be honest.
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
5:32 pm
Mr Charlie — “I just say load up on ammo. Its coming.”
Didn’t I see you buying 55-gallon water drums and cases of MREs over at Hodge Army Surplus back in 1999?
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:33 pm
GM might have survived the unions, but it don’t look like Detroit will.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:33 pm
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.),
“there’s no proof that GM would not have been able to do so.”
Nice you have the luxury to speculate, huh?
Uncle Jed
June 28th, 2011
5:35 pm
But like Cain, she is not someone to be taken seriously as a potential occupant of the White House.
++++++++++++++++++++
Neither is the sitting president come January 20, 2013.
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
5:35 pm
“Romney stands not chance.”
I disagree. While Romney isn’t exactly my cup of tea, many Republicans (and some of us not so Republicans) are so intent on getting Hope & Follow ™ out of the Oval Office that we are willing to hold our noses and vote for a candidate that isn’t Hope & Follow ™.
josef
June 28th, 2011
5:36 pm
Mr Charlie
You keep saying “it’s coming” but don’t say what “it” is…be careful, though, habeas corpus is still MIA…
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:37 pm
Obama is a shoe in, the Republicans don’t have anyone that can even be taken serious…..The house of cards is coming down.
RB from Gwinnett
June 28th, 2011
5:37 pm
Geee…. I’m SHOCKED Jay thinks every one of the R candidates is crazy, stupid, foolish, unqualfied, whatever the derogatory word of the day is. Just SHOCKED!!
You’re a schtick is tired Jay. This city deserves better than your crap disguised as “journalism”.
Uncle Jed
June 28th, 2011
5:38 pm
getalife (from downstairs)
June 28th, 2011
1:14 pm
Jed is here to call us liars.
+++++++++++++++++++++
And as the evil stepsisters looked on, the Prince knelt down and alas, the slipper fit.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:38 pm
josef,
“habeas corpus is still MIA”
Oh the irony….
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:39 pm
What is “it”? Mass inflation, devaluation of our currency, riots, violent protest and class warfare.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:41 pm
“Mass inflation, devaluation of our currency, riots, violent protest and class warfare.”
And tinfoil hats…we must not forget the tinfoil hats.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
5:41 pm
“Sorry, Recon, this post is just a load of blithering idiocy.”
LWM I would expect you to have that viewpoint.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:41 pm
Our government is growing, our tax base is shrinking, we printing money like mad just to pay our bills. Are you guys really that stupid that you really don’t see where this is going?
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:44 pm
“our tax base is shrinking’
Only because one party actually refuses to raise any taxes…or even to remove tax breaks…
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:44 pm
No Cowboy, no hats, just economics 101. Do you spend 2x what you make and put the rest on credit cards?
Explain to me how our economic policy is sustainable.
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
5:44 pm
Good on Petty telling her to cease and desist.
That woman needs some happenin’ Gene Vincent music to better reflect the decade in which she is stuck…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wHG8U0fa1Q
josef
June 28th, 2011
5:45 pm
Mr Charlie…
I would suggest in all seriousness, then, that you be highly judicious of when and where you say what. Don’t let hyperbole and partisan rhetoric get you a ticket in the early roundups as the crackdown begins. Go about your business quietly and with no fanfare and don’t draw attention to yourself.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
5:46 pm
“Nice you have the luxury to speculate, huh?”
jewcowboy, I said there’s no proof and there isn’t only “speculation” by Obama supporters that they wouldn’t have been able to.
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
5:46 pm
Mr Charlie — “No Cowboy, no hats, just economics 101. Do you spend 2x what you make and put the rest on credit cards?”
Nobody’s arguing for that. How about we cut expenses (spending) AND bring more money into the house? (increase revenue)
The GOP seems interested only in one side of the solvency equation.
Uncle Jed
June 28th, 2011
5:46 pm
And tinfoil hats…we must not forget the tinfoil hats.
+++++++++++++++++++++++
Well, as opposed to felt hats, no beavers died and the foil ones are recycleable. Go Green.
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
5:47 pm
“or even to remove tax breaks…”
Not according to reports coming out of the deficit reduction negotiations.
Jackie
June 28th, 2011
5:47 pm
It is ironic that today’s topic is reflective of the attitude the so-called children have with the debt ceiling.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/06/28/news/economy/debt_ceiling_fallout_bpc/index.htm?hpt=hp_t2
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
5:47 pm
Off to pick up my daughter. Play nice.
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
5:47 pm
“The GOP seems interested only in one side of the solvency equation.”
And even there, the tiny amounts are a total joke…
Jackie
June 28th, 2011
5:48 pm
Those would be the children in the US House and Senate.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:49 pm
“Shades of Springsteen contra Reagan for “Born in the U.S.A.”.
I do find the GOP tendency to steal music interesting…especially considering they are the “law and order” crowd. Why do they not respect intellectual property rights? Oh…sorry I shouldn’t have use the word “intellectual” in reference to the GOP
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/77309/a_pattern_of_republicans_stealing_music_from_bands_who_don%27t_like_them/
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
5:51 pm
Recon — “Off to pick up my daughter. Play nice.”
Drive safely.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:51 pm
Uncle Jed,
“Well, as opposed to felt hats, no beavers died and the foil ones are recycleable. Go Green.”
And oh so space age modern…
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:52 pm
Cowboy, you ignored me when I told you about the Internet bubble. after he happened and I saw interest rates tumble, you scoffed at my prediction of the Real Estate bubble. Now I am telling you about the bailout bubble, and the result will be hyper-inflation, and there will be nowhere to go from there except the realization that cable TV and PS3 is not a god given right. And for some reason, I think there is a large percentage of the population that will not accept this fact casually.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:52 pm
Dave R..,
“Not according to reports coming out of the deficit reduction negotiations.”
Do tell…
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:54 pm
“Only because one party actually refuses to raise any taxes…or even to remove tax breaks”….
Ahh, laying the seeds to my class warfare prediction….
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:54 pm
Mr Charlie
@ 5.52…pray tell…what are you smoking?
Z
June 28th, 2011
5:55 pm
Bachmann is not ready for prime time and never will be. She is a religious fruitcake that has been blinded by the light. She is not crazy, but just another clueless wacky republican that has fallen for the radical right bologna that the fanatic fringe tries to promote.
She graduated from the last class of law students to get a degree from the Oral Roberts”religious” Law School. It then went out of business until it was taken up by another religious organization that took years to regain its accreditation..her degree about taxes was a couple of classes at William and Mary..There are lawyers and then there are lawyers. A news item the other day someone asked her about her and her husbands $250,000 Farm subsidies and she said she and her husband do not gain from their farm because it is a partnership with her Father in-law..what does she think a partnership is..her husband gains so she gains. She is a hypocrite or just plain dumb..She is always talking about how bad Government is but yet she always has her hand out for more and more Government handouts. I can’t imagine this wacky religious fruitcake having to deal with our domestic problems let alone Foreign ones.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:55 pm
We have 1/2 the people not paying any income taxes, and you really think that we need to tax those who are paying even more?
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
5:56 pm
“Do tell…”
Sorry, can’t. Let’s just say I have contact with a third-party “inside source”, and leave it at that.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:56 pm
Something tells me Mr. Charlie is off his Zyprexa.
Doggone/GA
June 28th, 2011
5:56 pm
” you really don’t see where this is going?”
I’d say a new “talking points” memo went out, and we’re getting “treated” to it one line at a time
Jackie
June 28th, 2011
5:57 pm
Heard news reports that indicate the US House refuse to remove subsidies for the oil industry.
How many of us believe the oil industry needs help from the taxpayers?
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
5:57 pm
jewcowboy — “Something tells me Mr. Charlie is off his Zyprexa.”
I LOLed
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
5:58 pm
Dave R.,
Tease…
Moderate Line
June 28th, 2011
5:59 pm
For the time being, people are enamored of Bachmann because she is saying things they like to hear (the same trend drove the early support for Herman Cain.) But like Cain, she is not someone to be taken seriously as a potential occupant of the White House.
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It’s hard for me to believe anyone would say that after Obama was elected with so little experience. She has six years of house experience while Obama had 4 years of Senate experience.
The bar is pretty low for being taken seriously.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
5:59 pm
Jewcowboy, You really think that we just need to tax the people who are actually paying taxes more, and everything will be hunky dory? What are you smoking?
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
6:02 pm
jewcowboy, if you also listen very carefully to some of the GOP leaders statements, you’ll hear lots of “no tax increase” talk, but virtually nothing on “no increase in revenues”.
The GOP will play ball on some subsidies and loopholes, but not on tax rates.
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
6:03 pm
Now it’s off to feed Bhudda . . .
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
6:03 pm
Mr. Charlie,
“What are you smoking?”
Nothing, unless you’re offering part of your stash. Of course, neither am I prattling on about “Mass inflation, devaluation of our currency, riots, violent protest and class warfare” like, well a Bachmann.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
6:07 pm
Moderate Line,
“The bar is pretty low for being taken seriously.”
Please show me 10 batshyte crazy quotes from Obama before he was elected. It can be about the specific candidate…Cynthia McKinney had 10 years in the House, but never garnered 18% of the Democrats support in her attempt at the White House.
Mighty Righty
June 28th, 2011
6:07 pm
Jay
June 28th, 2011
4:43 pm
Peadawg, Thulsa: The proof will be in the pudding, as my mother used to say (and still does).
Obama took on the Clinton machine and then the GOP and became president of the United States. Not bad, huh?
If Bachmann accomplishes the same feat, you’ll be right to compare them. But you know what?
Ain’t gonna happen.
Do you people REALLY believe she’d make a good president?
Yes or no answer please.
No. I do not think she would make a good president but that is not todays standard. Obama is the benchmark. Lady GaGa would do as well as Barry.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
6:09 pm
JC, lets see, you are talking about just increasing taxes on those who already pay taxes, and cutting spending. Like that is gonna happen. Now, what are YOU smoking?
Uncle Jed
June 28th, 2011
6:10 pm
Obama: Failure will out itself every time
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Poll: Voters not happy with Obama in debt talks
“As President Obama takes on a more active role in dealing with the federal budget deficit, a majority of voters disapprove of the way he is handling the issue, according to a new poll released Tuesday.
Sixty-one percent of registered voters nationally do not approve of how the president has addressed the situation, say results of the national McClatchy-Marist poll.
Fewer than one-third of voters — 31 percent — approve of his handling of the issue, while 8 percent say they aren’t sure.
Voters also are voicing their dissatisfaction over the president’s overall handling of the economy, the poll found. Only 37 percent say the president is doing a good job on the issue — an all-time low for Mr. Obama in the firm’s polling….”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/28/poll-voters-not-happy-obama-debt-talks/
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
6:11 pm
Mr. Charlie,
“you are talking about just increasing taxes on those who already pay taxes”
Please do not put words in my mouth like the lithium tabs you put in yours…
josef
June 28th, 2011
6:13 pm
jewcowboy
Tin hats are s-o-o-o-passe! Alumninum for that lighter feel…some say platinum, but that’s gauche and ostentatious and somewhat offensive in these strained economic times…no need to make yourself a target in the class warfare…
Peadawg
June 28th, 2011
6:14 pm
“Please show me 10 batshyte crazy quotes from Obama before he was elected.”
-57 States
-Obama bowls a 37 in Pennsylvania
-Seeing dead people in the audience on Memorial Day
-”You’re likeable enough, Hillary.”
-Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s
-”Let me introduce to you the next President — the next Vice President of the United States of America, Joe Biden.”
-Said his grandmother was a “typical white person”
-”You’re absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith…”
That’s 7…use google and you’ll probably be able to find more.
Mr Charlie
June 28th, 2011
6:15 pm
JC, do you think what is happening in Detroit is my imagination?
Do you think that JUST MAYBE, democratic policy, and the exact “take what is ours from the MAN” philosophy you still hold onto MIGHT have something to do with the condition of that city today?