Bachmann: Wackiness will out itself in time
Michele Bachmann, in a dead heat with Mitt Romney in Iowa in the latest Des Moines Register poll, got some more good news from Gallup today.
Under the headline “Bachmann in Strong Position as She Enters 2012 Race,” Gallup reports that the Minnesota congresswoman “enters the race with 69% name recognition among Republicans and ties for the highest Positive Intensity Score of any GOP candidate Gallup tracks.”
(Gallup defines “positive intensity” as the percentage of those who strongly favor the candidate minus the percentage that strongly opposes him or her.)
Note that Newt Gingrich, one of the best known of the GOP candidates, has a positive intensity rating of 2 among his fellow Republicans. And Tim Pawlenty is turning out to be the kind of man who can’t excite anyone but his dog back home, if he has one. With a PIR of 8, he trails even Rick Santorum. (In GOP presidential politics, Santorum serves as the equivalent of baseball’s Mario Mendoza.)
Pawlenty is counting on performing well in Iowa, but after weeks of working the state, he’s still at just 6 percent in the Register poll. It ain’t happening for TPaw.
According to a Register analysis of its poll:
Bachmann, 55, rates the strongest with very conservative caucusgoers, along with those who are well-educated and ages 45 to 64.
More respondents pick her as their second choice, 18 percent, than name Romney, 10 percent.
“Michele Bachmann has always looked like a fit for Iowa on paper, and the debate likely helped solidify her standing,” pollster J. Ann Selzer said. “This poll confirms she has potential to do very well here.”
Me, I’m not buying it. I’ll admit to being surprised by the degree of discipline that Bachmann has demonstrated to date, but it won’t last. In the harsh glare of the national spotlight, wackiness will out itself in time.
As Ron Carey, a former chief of staff for Bachmann and now a Pawlenty backer, writes in the Register:
“The Bachmann campaign and congressional offices I inherited were wildly out of control. Stacks upon stacks of unopened contributions filled the campaign office while thousands of communications from citizens waited for an answer. If she is unable, or unwilling, to handle the basic duties of a campaign or congressional office, how could she possibly manage the magnitude of the presidency?”
For the time being, people are enamored of Bachmann because she is saying things they like to hear (the same trend drove the early support for Herman Cain.) But like Cain, she is not someone to be taken seriously as a potential occupant of the White House.
– Jay Bookman
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josef
June 28th, 2011
4:13 pm
ZamVet
I wish I shared your optimism here. Unlike the others, she can come across “acceptable” and even last p.m. the trio I was mentioning, who are normally rather restrained in their gushing and to the liberal left in their outlooks, were themselves “crediting” how she explained her way out of them up to and including that horse sh*t one on Obama’s India trip. I’m telling ya, Bro, it scared me.
Sister Sarah was/is, well, an easy target. Newt cooks his own loose goose. Caine is a fruitcake and since he has chocolate icing, the left won’t let up on him to prove they’re not racist. The other also rans together don’t have the pizazz of a three-day-old dog t*rd. That leaves Romney as the only one on that side who, by comparison, looks like a wise elder statesman. She may well be putting him in the shade.
That might be an immediate gratification to the Democrats in hopes the Bruin’s right that wackiness will out itself…but all it takes is one good scandal on the Obama campaign or one major catastrophe in the summer-fall of 2012, and there she’ll be…
Peadawg
June 28th, 2011
4:14 pm
“Sucking up to Bosch gets you nowhere on this blog, jewcowboy. ”
He may be trying to turn him to the darkside.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
4:14 pm
So who are the Dems going to run? Hillary. Someone suggested to me that they were going to run Obama again. That garnered a pretty good belly laugh from me but when I finally quit laughing I realized he mighta been serious.
Jay
June 28th, 2011
4:14 pm
Thulsa, I wouldn’t insult strong conservative women — and I have some in my extended family — by calling Bachmann a strong conservative woman.
Adam
June 28th, 2011
4:14 pm
Let me reiterate something:
The following phrases do nothing for your argument:
1) 57 states
2) Teleprompter
3) Marine Corpse
4) Community Organizer
5) Back of the Bus
etc etc. I have a complete list at home. I’m beginning to think I should have it in the cloud for ready use.
Mighty Righty
June 28th, 2011
4:14 pm
For you nutty lefties here is evidence of insane behavior. Thinking there are 57 states. Now that is crazy. Not knowing the difference between Marine Corp and Marine Corpse. That is looney. Not knowing it is rude to talk during God Save the Queen at a ceremony honoring the Queen. That is unbelievably crazy. Making a speech in front of a dead Marine’s family claiming to have shook his hand. That is “batsh*t crazy”. And whackiest of all is the provebly insane idea of continnuing to do the same things over and over and over spending money we don’t have expecting different results.
Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
4:15 pm
Michelle Bachmann is the embodiment of all that was wrong with Herman Cain as a candidate, and much of it boils down to discipline and political savvy. As it turns out, corporate boardrooms aren’t necessarily such good proving grounds for potential presidential candidates.
Ragnar Danneskjöld
June 28th, 2011
4:15 pm
Good afternoon. I’ll always take an allegedly ditzy conservative over any leftist. Given the abysmal performance of the current pretender to the office of the presidency, there is no way we could do worse.
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
4:16 pm
Doom — “Always with the personal attacks on conservative women like Bachman and Palin. What is it that strong conservative women scare the hell outta libs? I think independents are onto the lib effort to try and marginalize women like Bachman by ridiculing them and engaging in character assassination.”
You don’t see many libs dissing Republican women like Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe. That would be because they’ve got some class and intelligence, and because they don’t go around talking a lot of smack like Palin and Bachmann do.
It ain’t the gender, it’s teh stoopid.
RedEye
June 28th, 2011
4:16 pm
Make no mistake…Chris Matthews and MSNBC will devote a cult like following of Bachmann that will make stalking look like a first glance…oh wait, are we already there?
Adam
June 28th, 2011
4:16 pm
Ragnar: Given the abysmal performance of the current pretender to the office of the presidency, there is no way we could do worse.
I would laugh at that if I didn’t know you were serious. Instead, it’s just sad that you believe that.
Adam
June 28th, 2011
4:17 pm
Homeward! See you all later!
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:17 pm
Thulsa Doom,
“What is it that strong conservative women scare the hell outta libs? ”
Just the batshyte crazy ones scare us. Why doesn’t the GOP get women like Collins, Snowe, Dole, or Hutchison to run for higher office? It makes me think the GOP is vested in making women look stupid so men will stay in power, rather than run intelligent and ration GOP women and possibly have them win.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
4:17 pm
Jay,
And I wouldn’t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you actually believe what you just wrote at 4:14.
Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
4:18 pm
Thulsa: “So who are the Dems going to run? Hillary”
I don’t know, go ask them.
As a principled leftist, I don’t speak for them and god knows they don’t speak for me.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
4:19 pm
jewcowboy,
Nothing crazy about her or Palin. Some people have that perception because of the continous character assassination put upon them by the liberal media. Tell a lie big enough, long enough, and loud enough and people start to believe it. Tell it once or twice about a conservative woman and the liberal sheeple automatically believe it.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:20 pm
Dave R.,
“Sucking up to Bosch gets you nowhere on this blog”
Seriously, though. What is up with GOP running the most unqualified women for President when the GOP has some great candidates that are sane, rational, intellectual and could garner bi-partisan support?
Ragnar Danneskjöld
June 28th, 2011
4:21 pm
In respect for the genius of Adam, I have to acknowledge the validity of his 4:16 post. The current vice president would be worse.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
June 28th, 2011
4:21 pm
Is it safe to come out from under the feinting couch….why I am just all afear of just about anything the Republicans do. Their “strong” female lunatics, their candidates, their plans, their governors….
How silly is the poster who claims that mockery is because of fear.
josef
June 28th, 2011
4:21 pm
Recent Grad…
). I also respect John King for much the same professionalism on air. That’s why this scared me. It was not that expected behavior, but bordered on the gushing…
Don’t misunderstand. I’m an Anderson Cooper groupie for lack of a better word, and nice t-shirt and “one of us” aside, I admire the hell out of his gentlemanly manners (and no, Imam, not going there even if Daddy was from Meridian
DAVE
Like I said to ZamVet, I wish I shared your optimism…and while I’m looking for a descriptor and so far find your bat sh*t crazy close, it’s still too, well, dismissive…
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
4:22 pm
Equating Snowe and Collins to “strong conservative women” is like equating Jay Bookman to “objective writing”.
Neither are farther from the truth.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:22 pm
Thulsa doom,
“character assassination put upon them by the liberal media.”
You mean the press quoting their inaccuracies and bat shyte crazy statements?
Granny Godzilla
June 28th, 2011
4:22 pm
Nothing crazy about Palin or Bachmann.????
If one’s crazy I suppose they could appear normal.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
4:22 pm
Bachmann not a strong conservative woman? hmmm. Lets see- the woman was a tax lawyer, raised a family, and also took on the burden of helping raise something like 23 foster kids. Not sure what planet you guys live on but to me it takes a strong person to shoulder that kind of responsibility for that many kids. But go on with your character assassination- its what yall do.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
4:23 pm
Well you have to give Bachmann credit for achieving the honor of being on Jay’s Republican hit list. Rumor has it that the White House fears her as well. Obama is traveling to Iowa with his teleprompter and it’s been reported that he’ll be attacking Bachmann.
Mr Right
June 28th, 2011
4:23 pm
June 28th, 2011
4:14 pm
Thulsa, I wouldn’t insult strong conservative women — and I have some in my extended family — by calling Bachmann a strong conservative woman.
If she isn’t conservative women, what is she ? A liberal ?
Don't Forget
June 28th, 2011
4:23 pm
She’s also as socially conservative as anyone in the field, probably more so. I don’t think that will help her either.
thomas
June 28th, 2011
4:24 pm
Jay,
Again, back up your claim, what has she done to show herself as a weak conservative woman?
I was just playing with my first post, but now it seems as if you may actually be threatened by strong minded (stubborn)women, as you have offered no specifics just broad personal attacks as fact for your reason to dislike her.
Remember Ole Joe Biden has had a few “slip-ups” verbally of his own, never saw you proclaim him as a candidate to not be taken seriously. Why the difference?
Do you feel inadequate?
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:24 pm
Dave R.,
“Neither are farther from the truth.”
And Hutchinson and Dole?
carlosgvv
June 28th, 2011
4:24 pm
It’s sad to think back to the days of Truman, Ike and JFK and reaize that someone like her would never have gotten this far, even a man with the same personality and quirks. That she may be a serious contender just shows how dumbed down this Country has become and gives no hope that things will improve in the foreseeable future.
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
4:24 pm
Dave @ 4:22 — Would you indulge me by explaining your position on that, please?
Jay
June 28th, 2011
4:24 pm
I’ll grant you that much of that is impressive, Thulsa.
None of it qualifies her to be president. And in the political arena, she doesn’t begin to measure up.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
4:25 pm
jewcowboy,
Inaccuracies? Here’s a few of em- 57 states, Austrians speak Austrian, spelling Libya Lybia on a presidential tweet. How’s that for gaffes for the community clown organizer? And yet people still think this bozo is smart??? Seriously?
thomas
June 28th, 2011
4:25 pm
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
4:16 pm
So you are saying a woman with class basically keeps her mouth shut?
How wonderfully 19th century of you!
Mr Right
June 28th, 2011
4:26 pm
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
4:22 pm
Well said !
Ragnar Danneskjöld
June 28th, 2011
4:26 pm
Dear Carlosgvv @ 4:24. truly America lowered the bar by electing a community organizer.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
4:26 pm
“You don’t see many libs dissing Republican women like Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe.”
Lib’s luv rino’s
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:27 pm
“If we took away the minimum wage — if conceivably it was gone — we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level.” Michele Bachmann, Jan. 2005
Uh…well if the idea is to have a permanent serfdom…I suppose this is true.
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
4:27 pm
More form Politifact: No other Republican candidate whose statements have been vigorously vetted matched that record of inaccuracy.
josef, time will tell, but I’ve already demonstrated via numerous “pants on fire” statements that the woman has very, very little concern with veracity. (And to be fair, many politicians don’t.)
But I still contend that it is just a matter of time before she belches out some truly boneheaded and flabbergasting falsehood. Her handlers are gonna have one helluva time, delaying the inevitable.
I just hope I have some popcorn when the implosion occurs.
Rag, is ditzy the new euphemism for serial prevaricator?
thomas
June 28th, 2011
4:27 pm
Jay
June 28th, 2011
4:24 pm
But you claimed to call her strong would not be fair to the actual strong conservatives in your family?
What mighty feats have the women of your family done to put soft Ms. Bachmann to shame?
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
4:27 pm
jewcowboy, I always said that the GOP nominated the wrong Dole back in 1996.
But Hutchinson? Not even close to my cup of tea, and a lousy campaigner as well.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:27 pm
“There are hundreds and hundreds of scientists, many of them holding Nobel Prizes, who believe in intelligent design.” -Rep. Michele Bachmann, Oct. 2006
Care to back that up with fact Ms. Bachmann?
Peadawg
June 28th, 2011
4:28 pm
“None of it qualifies her to be president.” – Someone who voted for Obama in 2008 has no room to talk about lack of qualifications.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
4:28 pm
None of it qualifies her to be president. And in the political arena, she doesn’t begin to measure up.- Jay
And I’ll grant that a community organizer running for president 150 days into his first and only senate term doesn’t measure up to being president. And given the state of the economy many independents would probably agree with me. Pretty speeches doesn’t make one qualified.
thomas
June 28th, 2011
4:28 pm
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
4:22 pm
Why?
What do strong conservative women do that neither of those 2 do?
RedEye
June 28th, 2011
4:29 pm
Thulsa,
you forgot to mention his pronunciation of “corpsman”…truly classic
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
4:30 pm
Ah yes, one of my favorite pastimes. reading neo-cons getting their feathers ruffled about being fake conservatives.
Conservatism is dead in the Republican Party.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:30 pm
“Carbon dioxide is portrayed as harmful. But there isn’t even one study that can be produced that shows that carbon dioxide is a harmful gas.” -Rep. Michelle Bachmann, April, 2009
Wow…just wow. I guess not, if you don’t include the thousands that have been published…or the fact that in high enough level it causes death in humans…but sure…
Peadawg
June 28th, 2011
4:30 pm
“you forgot to mention his pronunciation of “corpsman”…truly classic”
Nah, you can’t beat his speech on Memorial Day when he saw all our fallen heroes in the crowd.
Mr Right
June 28th, 2011
4:31 pm
Jay
June 28th, 2011
4:24 pm
THANKFULLY people that haven’t fallen over on their left side from leaning so far that way will decide if she measures up !
willie lynch
June 28th, 2011
4:31 pm
I like watching for Bachmanns Stepford-like twitch while she’s on camera.
Seriously though she’s not the one.
Recent Grad
June 28th, 2011
4:32 pm
Well, time to go. But before I do, here’s something to think about:
While the jester played for the king and queen in a coat he borrowed from James Dean, Mitt Romney won the election.
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
4:32 pm
Thomas — “So you are saying a woman with class basically keeps her mouth shut?”
I neither said nor thought anything of the sort.
“How wonderfully 19th century of you!”
(laughing) XD
If you met my wife, you’d understand why I find your misassessment funny.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:32 pm
“That’s why people need to continue to go to the town halls, continue to melt the phone lines of their liberal members of Congress, and let them know, under no certain circumstances will I give the government control over my body and my health care decisions.” -Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN)
Interesting terminology coming from a pro-lifer who wants to abolish abortion rights. Irony much?
josef
June 28th, 2011
4:32 pm
Ragnar Danneskjöld
“I’ll always take an allegedly ditzy conservative over any leftist. Given the abysmal performance of the current pretender to the office of the presidency, there is no way we could do worse”
And there it is. I’m not sure there are enought of them out there to do just that in numbers enough to get her in…and this is not to excuse the Democrats…there’s enough of them to do the same. It’s this hyperpartisanship run amok…
Mighty Righty
June 28th, 2011
4:32 pm
Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
4:04 pm
Pleassse stoppppppp it!!! That sound of a ladle scraping the bottom of a barrel grates on my ears
Sorry to burst your bubble but your man is a fool. People wondered why the Bamster picked Biden. He picked him because compared to himself, Biden looked bright. Our current economy and his teleprompters are all I need to understand why we are in the mess we are in. The future will not deceive us. He is being judged on his actions, not his words. The election will be on results not promises. Joe Lewis talking about Billy Conn said, “He can run but he can’t hide.” Ditto for the Bamster.
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
4:33 pm
Recon — “Lib’s luv rino’s”
You’re more likely to attract lib votes for President if you run a RINO than if you run a wingnut. Such is the price of ideological purity.
Granny Godzilla
June 28th, 2011
4:33 pm
GOP presidential candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann is now getting the Sarah Palin treatment on Wikipedia. In light of Bachmann’s latest historical hiccup, people are trying to edit John Quincy Adam’s Wikipedia page to reflect her recent gaffe. One edit, for example, changes his description from “John Adams was the sixth President of the United States” to “John Adams, a founding father, was the sixth President of the United States.”
Another more satirical edit added, “But even as an embryo, John Quincy Adams could feel pain and was a Founding Father.” In striking the revisions, the page administrator included the statement, “Please don’t edit an historical article based on current events.” Incidentally, the Founding Fathers Wikipedia page still does not list John Quincy Adams as a member.
From Think Progress
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
4:34 pm
Wonder whose on deck next for Jay’s Republican bashing. Maybe Palin, while she probably won’t be a candidate herself she will surely support Bachmann. The left really fears conservative woman and conservative African Americans. You can call it bigotry.
RedEye
June 28th, 2011
4:34 pm
pea,
not sure if its been mentioned yet or not, but a fairly recent one as well…
signing his name and 2008 on his visit at buckingham palace a month or two ago
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
4:35 pm
Neither Snowe nor Collins are considered “conservative” by any definition of the word, therefore the term “strong conservative women” cannot apply to them.
Jay
June 28th, 2011
4:35 pm
Thomas, if I was threatened by stubborn, strong-minded women, I would have been divorced a LLOOOOONGGG time ago.
In a political context, a strong conservative woman gets things done. What has Bachmann accomplished? No bill or resolution she has sponsored has ever passed. She has won no leadership post, not even a subcommittee chair. When she briefly announced last fall that she would seek the No. 4 slot in House leadership, she was basically snickered into withdrawing by her own colleagues.
She has shown no ability to do more than recite bumper sticker slogans. She doesn’t know much, and doesn’t even know what she doesn’t know. But she’s perfectly willing to make things up. Other than those things, yeah, she’s a perfect candidate to be leader of the free world.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
4:35 pm
jewcowboy,
I got a better one for you since it pertains to the everyday realities of life faced by millions of Americans.
These numbers come in the context of an earlier Obama promise that his recovery plan will “save or create three to four million jobs over the next two years.”
Yeah jewcowboy, please show me how the man can claim to save or create jobs when its a fictional state to begin with. What manner of a fool would say such a thing and even worse what manner of a fool would believe an absurd statement about jobs “created or saved”.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124451592762396883.html
“Saved or created” has become the signature phrase for Barack Obama as he describes what his stimulus is doing for American jobs. His latest invocation came yesterday, when the president declared that the stimulus had already saved or created at least 150,000 American jobs — and announced he was ramping up some of the stimulus spending so he could “save or create” an additional 600,000 jobs this summer. These numbers come in the context of an earlier Obama promise that his recovery plan will “save or create three to four million jobs over the next two years.”
“To begin with, the number is pure fiction — the administration has no way to measure how many jobs are actually being ’saved.’
Of course, the inability to measure Mr. Obama’s jobs formula is part of its attraction. Never mind that no one — not the Labor Department, not the Treasury, not the Bureau of Labor Statistics — actually measures “jobs saved.” As the New York Times delicately reports, Mr. Obama’s jobs claims are “based on macroeconomic estimates, not an actual counting of jobs.” Nice work if you can get away with it.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:36 pm
“I find it interesting that it was back in the 1970s that the swine flu broke out under another, then under another Democrat president, Jimmy Carter. I’m not blaming this on President Obama, I just think it’s an interesting coincidence.” -Rep. Michele Bachmann
So what does Gerald Ford say about it since it broke out in 1976 during his Presidency, not Carter’s?
Peadawg
June 28th, 2011
4:36 pm
“You can call it bigotry.” – Or sexism. OR racism. Those are 2 words the left love to throw around like a baseball at the Braves game.
Finn McCool
June 28th, 2011
4:36 pm
Conservatives like rolling her out cause it plays into their narrative of being victimized.
“Oh, the liberal media this, the liberal media that….oh, everyone is against us….oh, we are bible huggers…ohhhh”
thomas
June 28th, 2011
4:36 pm
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
4:32 pm
Your comment was about them being classless, then followed up with the statement about them talking trash.
Explain more to us then what should be concluded by those 2 statements back to back?
Seems to me as if you are saying exactly that. If not please explain further.
Maybe if i met your wife i would understand why your subconscience comes out on a blog, instead of real life. Are you affraid to speak about women or you wife that way to your wife?
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:37 pm
Dave R.,
“Neither Snowe nor Collins are considered “conservative” by any definition of the word, therefore the term “strong conservative women” cannot apply to them.”
And we know “moderate” is considered a four letter word in the modern GOP…
Peadawg
June 28th, 2011
4:38 pm
“She has shown no ability to do more than recite bumper sticker slogans. ” – Like “hope and change”?
“No bill or resolution she has sponsored has ever passed.” – As opposed to voting “present” on everything.
Dang Bachmann and Obama look more and more a like each day. Eh, Jay?
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
4:38 pm
jewcowboy, good one.
I’m relatively certain that there must be dozens more, like that, out there; and the woman has even gotten started yet!
Peadawg
June 28th, 2011
4:39 pm
“But she’s perfectly willing to make things up.” – Like Obamacare will lower premiums?
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
4:39 pm
Jay,
And what were Barack Obama’s impressive legislative accomplishments in his term as a senator? Uh. Um. What? Maybe 1 or 2 bills sponsored. WOW! Impressed? Uh. That would be no. And a resounding no at that.
Message from Matti
June 28th, 2011
4:39 pm
jcb: “Interesting terminology coming from a pro-lifer who wants to abolish abortion rights. Irony much?”
Indeed! Every self-described “conservative” candidate who claims to be “for freedom” should be equipped with mandatory asterisk signs: **Freedom is not free, and therefore will only be applied to those who can afford it.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
4:39 pm
“And we know “moderate” is considered a four letter word in the modern Democratic party…”
Jewcowboy, fixed your typo.
RedEye
June 28th, 2011
4:40 pm
my favorite
“Everybody knows that it makes no sense that you send a kid to the emergency room for a treatable illness like asthma, they end up taking up a hospital bed, it costs, when, if you, they just gave, you gave them treatment early and they got some treatment, and a, a breathalyzer, or inhalator, not a breathalyzer. “
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
4:41 pm
She has shown no ability to do more than recite bumper sticker slogans. ” – Like “hope and change”?
You forgot “Yes. We can!”
Good lord. A lib talking about bumper sticker slogans when Obama’s whole campaign was one of non-substance, vague generalities, and hopey changey and yes. we can.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:41 pm
Thulsa Doom,
“an earlier Obama promise that his recovery plan will “save or create three to four million jobs over the next two years.”
How about 14M?
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/how-many-jobs-depend-on-the-big-three/
Granny Godzilla
June 28th, 2011
4:41 pm
“The left really fears conservative woman and conservative African Americans.”
Fear?
Keep right on thinking that and PLEASE PLEASE runwith the Bachmann Cain ticket.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
AmVet
June 28th, 2011
4:42 pm
Michele, playing climatologist:
“The big thing we are working on now is the global warming hoax. It’s all voodoo, nonsense, hokum, a hoax.”
~ March 15, 2008 speech at the Sherburne County Republican Nominating Convention.
“There isn’t one such study because carbon dioxide is not a harmful gas, it is a harmless gas. Carbon dioxide is natural. It is not harmful. It is part of Earth’s life cycle…And yet we’re being told that we have to reduce this natural substance and reduce the American standard of living to create an arbitrary reduction in something that is naturally occurring in the earth.”
- 2009 Earth Day speech on the House floor.
DOA, by her own toxic gases!
Fletch
June 28th, 2011
4:42 pm
I posted this over on Kyles blog, it’s just as true over here:
think Brit Hume said it best ” She could probably win the nomination, but I doubt she could win the election”
Bachmanns biggest problem is that she doesn’t bring anything to the table for the INDEPENDENT voter. Die hard Dems arent going to vote for her, die hard GOPS arent going to support her, so that only leaves the independents. Who, since they have no party affiliation, tend to seriously analyze every candidate before casting their vote. In that regard, Bachmann just doesn’t pass muster.
Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
4:43 pm
What is it that strong conservative women scare the hell outta libs?
You mean like the Iron Lady? She’s the model for all so-called “strong conservative women”. She calls the bluff of the weak-kneed men, reminds them not to “go wobbly” when it’s about to hit the fan. By that measure, to find out if she’s a true strong conservative woman we need to find a male wobbler she’s helped to straighten out and make fly straight.
Jay
June 28th, 2011
4:43 pm
Peadawg, Thulsa: The proof will be in the pudding, as my mother used to say (and still does).
Obama took on the Clinton machine and then the GOP and became president of the United States. Not bad, huh?
If Bachmann accomplishes the same feat, you’ll be right to compare them. But you know what?
Ain’t gonna happen.
Do you people REALLY believe she’d make a good president?
Yes or no answer please.
Tundra Dude
June 28th, 2011
4:44 pm
WASHINGTON – A former chief of staff to Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) wrote Tuesday that his former boss is “decidedly” not ready to be president.
“She is a faithful conservative with great oratory skills, but without any leadership experience or real results from her years in office,” wrote Ron Carey in an op-ed published in the Des Moines Register. “She is not prepared to assume the White House in 2013,” he concluded.
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:45 pm
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.),
“Jewcowboy, fixed your typo.”
It wasn’t a typo as I’m sure you know, so I would appreciate you not appropriating my thoughts and b@stardizing them into what you think. If and when you have an original thought…then post it…otherwise leave mine alone. I wrote what I wanted to express.
Thulsa Doom
June 28th, 2011
4:45 pm
Another one was when Steve Kroft was interviewing Obama on the death of UBL. Obama said that even before we got UBL that we had denigrated Al qaeda forces. Hey genius are you sure you didn’t mean devastated or decimated? Denigrate would just hurt their feelings.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
4:46 pm
“Think Brit Hume said it best” ” She could probably win the nomination, but I doubt she could win the election”
There’s that old Fox news for you carrying water for Republicans all the time.
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
4:46 pm
Thomas — “Your comment was about them being classless, then followed up with the statement about them talking trash.”
Not exactly. Read on.
“Explain more to us then what should be concluded by those 2 statements back to back?”
They weren’t back-to-back. You left something out. Here’s what I *actually* said:
“You don’t see many libs dissing Republican women like Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe. That would be because they’ve got some class and intelligence, and because they don’t go around talking a lot of smack like Palin and Bachmann do.”
IMO, Collins and Snowe DO have class and intelligence. They exhibit a great deal more patience, collegiality and good will than do Bachmann and Palin. They’re willing to show some flexibility — not blind adherence to the GOP position — in order to get things done. They know that you can’t make things happen in Washington by pounding your fist on the table and demanding that things go your way, and you never see them on the news denigrating or insulting their fellow Americans — not even Democrats.
For their part, Palin and Bachmann talk a lot of smack, IMO. And that’s in addition to not exhibiting the positive personality traits of class and intelligence that I think Snowe and Collins possess.
“Seems to me as if you are saying exactly that. If not please explain further.”
Done. Do you need further elaboration?
“Maybe if i met your wife i would understand why your subconscience comes out on a blog,”
(laughing)
Poor aim on your part, pal. Not even close.
“instead of real life. Are you affraid to speak about women or you wife that way to your wife?”
My wife knows I post here and what handle I use. In fact, she enjoyed the tussle Dave and I had a couple of weeks ago over NATO.
My wife and I are open and honest with each other, and on the subjects of Snowe, Palin, Collins and Bachmann, we are largely in agreement. Except that my wife is much less charitable towards Snowe and Collins than I am.
I suppose it’s because she’s subconsciously sexist, huh? (laughing)
Dave R.
June 28th, 2011
4:46 pm
I think an escapee from the Yerkes Primate Center would make a better President than the one we have now.
Bachmann a “good” one? Don’t know that.
But a “better” one than we have now? Unquestionably, yes.
BADA BING
June 28th, 2011
4:47 pm
Well at least Bachman doesn’t have a weiner to tweet.
TGT
June 28th, 2011
4:47 pm
The libs nominated and got Dumb & Dumber elected to the WH, while Granny and Uncle Jed ran congress, with Rev. Gore preaching their Gospel of Climate Change, and they are worried about “wackiness” in the GOP?! If the country can survive the aforementioned, “wackiness” will be gladly welcomed.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 28th, 2011
4:48 pm
“Hey genius are you sure you didn’t mean devastated or decimated? Denigrate would just hurt their feelings.”
Thulsa, that’s what happens when he forgets his teleprompter.
Whacks Eloquent
June 28th, 2011
4:48 pm
Jay @ 4:43
I think she’d make a better president than the last 4. That said, I don’t think she’d be the best in the group that is available. Ron Paul probably would be the best overall, but has no prayer of winning either the nomination or the election. And his fans are nuts…
Joe Mama
June 28th, 2011
4:48 pm
Granny — “Keep right on thinking that and PLEASE PLEASE runwith the Bachmann Cain ticket.”
“PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE”
Don’t throw me in that briar patch, B’rer Republican!
Peadawg
June 28th, 2011
4:49 pm
“Obama took on the Clinton machine and then the GOP and became president of the United States. Not bad, huh?” – Yup, not bad. Looks like you can pick Bachmann’s credentials w/ a fine toothed comb but ignore Obama’s (lack of) credentials.
“Ain’t gonna happen. Do you people REALLY believe she’d make a good president?” – Going by past credentials, hell no. But boy was I wrong in 2008 so who knows.
Granny Godzilla
June 28th, 2011
4:49 pm
Bachman Cain 2012
please please please
pretty please
jewcowboy
June 28th, 2011
4:50 pm
Thulsa Doom,
“Hey genius are you sure you didn’t mean devastated or decimated? Denigrate would just hurt their feelings.”
Perhaps he didn’t say those words b/c those were not the words that expressed what he was trying to express. Look up “denigrate”…it doesn’t mean “to hurt ones feelings” If this is all you have…pathetic and petty.
Message from Matti
June 28th, 2011
4:51 pm
I’m with Granny G: PLEASE run a Bachmann/Cain ticket! Heh.. Heh heh… Sweeeeet!
Also, please keep believing that Obama won because the conservative base didn’t turn out for the moderate McCain. HAHAHA! Yeah, that’s it! That’s what happened! Better go as far to the right you can get without being back on the left again!
Whacks Eloquent
June 28th, 2011
4:51 pm
Granny,
No way there are 2 tea party candidates on the ticket. The VP choice will be to unite the establishment and the tea party, however that needs to work. I like the Bachmann/Cain ticket idea though, but better if the order is reversed!
Granny Godzilla
June 28th, 2011
4:52 pm
Matti
I’d love to see a Bachmann Obama debate…..
Bachmann Palin 2012 – Oh be still my beating heart….the excitement is too much for this old gal….
Left wing management
June 28th, 2011
4:53 pm
Here’s Cilizza writing in WaPo:
The comparisons between Palin and Bachmann are, at one level, apt. Both are women (duh) who align most closely with social conservatives. Both are outspoken defenders of their chosen causes whose rhetoric occasionally gets them into hot water.
But, that’s where the similarities end
Aw c’mon, don’t chicken out there. Aren’t you going to point out the fact that she’s an attractive woman, which is one of the most important similarities between the two?
This is one of the things that aggravates me to no end in some mainstream journalism: the fear of speaking, in a serious way, to the primal level of what motivates people to form ties with candidates on a visceral, pre-rational level simply because it offends some of our PC sensibilities. But how can you analyse Bachmann or Palin without talking about their unconscious sexual appeal? It’s like trying to talk about Donald Trump without addressing his use of macho bluster to appeal to something at a deeper level in the electorate. It’s a shirking of the duty of the critic in my view.
How can you talk about Palin and
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/why-michele-bachmann-is-no-sarah-palin/2011/06/28/AGG5ADpH_blog.html?hpid=z2