Federal judge blocks pieces of HB 87
From AP:
ATLANTA — A federal judge has granted a request to block parts of Georgia’s law cracking down on illegal immigration from taking effect until a legal challenge is resolved.
Judge Thomas Thrash on Monday blocked parts of the law that penalize people who transport or harbor illegal immigrants. He also blocked provisions that authorize officers to verify the immigration status of someone who can’t provide proper identification.
Thrash also dismissed parts of the lawsuit at the state’s request.
I’ll be interested to read the whole ruling (PDF available here), but in the short term I don’t think this changes much. While Thrash has blocked implementation of the most legally aggressive sections of the bill, most of its structure remains intact, including E-verify requirements on employers.
UPDATE: Here’s a crucial section of the ruling, dealing with the question of whether the federal government has in effect ceded law enforcement authority to Georgia and other states by not actively enforcing immigration law:
“The widespread belief that the federal government is doing nothing about illegal immigration is the belief in a myth. Although the Defendants [state of Georgia] characterize federal enforcement as “passive,” that assertion has no basis in fact. On an average day, Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers arrest approximately 816 aliens for administrative immigration violations and remove approximately 912 aliens, including 456 criminal aliens, from the United States.
In 2010, immigration offenses were prosecuted in federal court more than any other offense. Of the 83,946 cases prosecuted under the federal sentencing guidelines, 28,504, or 34% involved immigration offenses. In 2010, of 81,304 criminal cases prosecuted in federal court, 38,619 (47.5%) were non-United States citizens.
It is true that there are thousands of illegal immigrants in Georgia that are here because of the insatiable demand in decades gone by for cheap labor in agriculture and certain industries such as construction and poultry processing. The federal government gives priority to prosecuting and removing illegal immigrants that are committing crimes in this country and to those who have previously been deported for serious criminal offenses such as drug trafficking and crimes of violence. To the extent that federal officers and prosecutors have priorities that differ from those of local prosecutors, those priorities are part of the flexibility that “is a critical component of the statutory and regulatory framework” under which the federal government pursues the difficult (and often competing) objectives, of “protecting national security, protecting public safety, and securing the border.”
UPDATE II:
Thrash also cites the sworn affidavit of Lewis Smith, police chief of Uvalda, a small farming town of 600 in southeast Georgia.
“This is going to be devastating to my community and to many other areas of rural Georgia,” Smith wrote. “I believe this law will open the door to racial profiling if it is implemented. There are a lot of good police officers, but there are some bad ones out there too, and if the bad ones don’t like Hispanics, for whatever reason, they will have the ability to try to verify that person’s immigration status. I believe that officers in many small towns will rely on physical appearance or way of talking (accent) to determine whether to stop someone and attempt to verify the person’s immigration status.”
Smith also explained the burden that HB 87 would place on him and other law enforcement officers. He is the lone officer in Uvalda, and transporting a suspected illegal immigrant to the closest jail 40 miles away, booking the person and returning home would pull him off patrol for two hours and 15 minutes.
“Because Uvalda is such a small town, everyone in town knows when I’ve left town and the criminal element often takes advantage of this time to commit crimes,” he writes.
And about that criminal element?
“The criminal element in Uvalda does not include the population HB 87 targets. In Uvalda, even though we are a small town, we have a big prescription drug problem resulting in break-ins, burglaries and even suicides. Hispanics, and particularly Hispanic immigrants, are law-abiding people.”
“I currently have a good relationship with the Hispanic community, but HB 87 is going to erode the communities’ trust in me.”
“I think this law unfairly targets Hispanic people. The Hispanic people living in my community are law abiding people. They have family and kids.”
– Jay Bookman
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171 comments Add your comment
Peadawg
June 27th, 2011
4:32 pm
OMG…Really
Oh you’re that guy. Why did you change your name? It should be changed to Peadawg’s Leghumper.
Off with you! *shakes leg trying to get you off**
Brosephus
June 27th, 2011
4:32 pm
Redneck
You’d best believe that the last thing I wanna do at work is touch other people. Some people lack the most basic skills when it comes to personal hygiene.
Dusty
June 27th, 2011
4:33 pm
Original thought,
I believe Arizona and Georgia are trying to fill in the shortcomings of Federal law. If the states overstep their boundaries, then the courts will stop them. That is what is happening right now. The ACLU and others will certainly see that no overstep happens, even if the whole purpose of the Fed law is obviously inadequte or unfunded or whatever.
We, the USA, have a PROBLEM. We are working on the PROBLEM. Our constitution is still intact so we will overcome the PROBLEM as we have in the past. That is why so many people want to come here. They leave the hopeless land to come to the land of solving problems. We just have to remind some of them that it has to be done by the law.
Logical Dude
June 27th, 2011
4:36 pm
Dusty: Fed law is obviously inadequte or UNFUNDED or whatever
So, how much more in taxes would you be willing to pay “to do what it takes”?
Mary
June 27th, 2011
4:37 pm
If I get hit by an illegal alien without insurance, is the federal government going to do anything for me in terms of uncovered losses, because it is insisting on its sole right to oversee immigration control? We have around 400,000 illegal aliens in and around Atlanta, what are the chances you are going to be hit by a drunk, uninsured illegal alien. It happens all the time!!!
AmVet
June 27th, 2011
4:37 pm
Bro’s point is the one that will stick with me the most after this topic is long forgotten.
Cops, security personnel, firefighters, teachers, etc, either put their lives on the line or have some of the very toughest, most important jobs out there.
Yet they get paid a pittance in radiative terms.
While some dorky actor, or football player of speculating scumbag on Wall Street makes more in one day than they will in a year.
I’d love to see that reversed, even if for one day…
OMG...Really
June 27th, 2011
4:38 pm
Peadawg,
You can shake all you want and call me all the names that you want but you still have lost whatever little shred of credibility that you ever had.
You still can’t answer the simplest of questions central to your argument.
And even though you had NO IDEA what you were talking about you did your best to shout me down and call me every ignorant name you could think of. But I’m still here and you still don’t know. Maybe if you keep listening Hannity or Rush or Neal will let the answer slip and then yo can pretend you know something.
You’re a sad little person.
AmVet
June 27th, 2011
4:38 pm
Radiative???
Uh, lets try relative instead…
Dusty
June 27th, 2011
4:38 pm
Brosephus,
Good thing you don’t work in healthcare. You should see some of what is brought to the laboratory for examination. There is nothing in or out of the body that is not intereting in the medical field. If it doesn’t look “right” to start with , you should see it under a microscope. Most interesting!!
josef
June 27th, 2011
4:39 pm
My distatesful comments on people from Up North? The ones who fall into the Carpetbaggers sobriquet or the ones on those who come here to live, work and make lives for themselves respectful of their new neighbors, the immigrants? You and Bruno and others seem to think that an attack on one element of that population demographic is an attack on all…that’s your shtick, not mine. And when I DO take a swipe for tongue-in-cheek, I put in a smilie…You just go profiling and then claim you aren’t…called out, how many times have you seen me deny it?
Brosephus
June 27th, 2011
4:39 pm
Perhaps the city would be better served by unincorporating and letting the county handle the law enforcement.
Maybe they incorporated because they didn’t feel that they were getting the services from the county they were due based on the amount of taxes they paid. Unincorporating would then put them back into the situation they were trying to get away from.
Just playin’ devil’s advocate there….
getalife
June 27th, 2011
4:40 pm
The number one issue this cycle is jobs and the gop are stealing them and Medicare.
Are you cons really going to vote for that?
What in the world is wrong with you?
josef
June 27th, 2011
4:40 pm
That 4:39 is for ZamVet
Peadawg
June 27th, 2011
4:41 pm
“You’re a sad little person.” – Says the creep little leghumper hiding behind a fake name on Jay’s blog.
Too funny.
RedEye
June 27th, 2011
4:43 pm
“The number one issue this cycle is jobs and the gop are stealing them and Medicare.”
Really? And where are they storing/hiding these jobs they’ve “stolen?”
Brosephus
June 27th, 2011
4:43 pm
Dusty
I have nothing but respect and admiration for anyone who chooses to work in the medical field. I’ve sat up in the lab with my mom before and seen many a “sample” brought in for tests. I have aunts, cousins, and a sister who are nurses of all kinds and varities. I have EMT friends who love to regale me with tales of the things they’ve seen. I wouldn’t last a week in any medical position, although I’ve been thinking of taking EMT courses to increase my skills base with my current employer.
Original Thought not Necessary
June 27th, 2011
4:43 pm
Dusty,
To the extent that the states fill in around where the federal regulations fall short then the laws pass the Supremacy test. Then it’s on to analysis of the laws on their merits and impacts.
Courts are obviously inundated with cases and requests for cert. Hence they will look at the technical aspects of the case (i.e. basic Constitutional provisions) prior to turning to the merits. If it fails under the first bar they are happy to toss it. One less case and one less decision. If it passes that bar then it’s on to the merits.
In other words, this if FARRRRR from over.
Peadawg
June 27th, 2011
4:43 pm
“The number one issue this cycle is jobs and the gop are stealing them ” – Again, let’s see if we can put this together.
Illegals leave, opening up more jobs. 10% unemployment. Farmers aren’t providing very good working conditions. See where I’m going with this? It can easily be fixed.
llllll
June 27th, 2011
4:44 pm
YEAH!!!!!! GREAT JOB JUDGE YOU ARE THE BEST JUDGE STOP STOP HB87 RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! VIVA MEXICO
Aquagirl
June 27th, 2011
4:44 pm
If it doesn’t look “right” to start with , you should see it under a microscope. Most interesting!!
Dusty, I never thought I’d say this…but you are a better woman than I.
Granny Godzilla
June 27th, 2011
4:44 pm
off topic, but Uh-Oh
water berm failed at Ft. Calhoun nuke plant…..water entering building
and pumps running on emergency power.
OMG...Really
June 27th, 2011
4:45 pm
There’s nothing fake about me. I never pretend to know things I don’t and my opinions are mine alone.
And I know why the individual mandate exists.
Want the leg humper to go away? Then answer my question and I’ll never post here again.
getalife
June 27th, 2011
4:46 pm
“opening up more jobs”
No silly.
Open jobs and no labor.
No business.
Stop stealing jobs extremist.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 27th, 2011
4:49 pm
Brosepuss:
“Fathom the erroneous information
peddled by a former agent of said
government in order to erect
a defensive barricade to try to
protect his argument.”
Good dodge !
carlosgvv
June 27th, 2011
4:49 pm
Adam, AmVet, Logical Dude
So, you think one Judge knows better and has more sense than the majority of the voters. No doubt you favor a strict intelligence and education test for all voters so that only the truly qualified will be able to vote.
Peadawg
June 27th, 2011
4:49 pm
“Want the leg humper to go away? Then answer my question and I’ll never post here again.”
Nah, I think I’ll treat you like my 6 yr old nephew who bugs me to get attention. I stop reacting and he eventually goes away.
Whether or not you chose to stop the leghumping is your choice.
RedEye
June 27th, 2011
4:49 pm
“Open jobs and no labor.”
I wasn’t aware that the supply of labor was so small…oh that’s right it’s not.
AmVet
June 27th, 2011
4:50 pm
OK, josef, I’ll play it real safe from now on.
I’ll just add a (smile) or (grin) after every post and that way I’m less accountable for the content! And I guess I’ll continue to be a carpetbagger… (Smile) (Grin)
Mike Huckabee just robocalled me. Jeez… (NO smiles or grins!)
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 27th, 2011
4:52 pm
HEADLINE: “Confirmed: Uncontacted tribe in Amazon”
(CBS/AP) RIO DE JANEIRO – “The Brazilian government has confirmed the existence of an uncontacted tribe in a southwestern area of the Amazon rain forest.”
I bet they are Democrats.
Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/06/27/scitech/main20074743.shtml#ixzz1QVnL0JEk
OMG...Really
June 27th, 2011
4:52 pm
In other words……You still don’t know.
You represent everything that is wrong with the right wing in this country. You love to bash away from your ignorance without any shred of knowledge.
Call me what you wish…I own you.
josef
June 27th, 2011
4:52 pm
CARLOS
“So, you think one Judge knows better and has more sense than the majority of the voters”
In the matter of the case as presented him in his position and within his bailiwick, yes…he has to look at aspects that the majority of the voters do not.
Maria Patricio
June 27th, 2011
4:55 pm
For the farmers that need workers remember for know the way to go is H2 A workers. I can help you with this matter. I hope that the the state laws willget stopped by federal Laws
Brosephus
June 27th, 2011
4:55 pm
Scout
Not a dodge at all. I just fail to see the hypocrisy in your statement. However, I do see intellectual dishonesty being used to push a partisaned argument. Where does EVERY American have to be insured right now? Don’t say the ACA, because that doesn’t kick in until 2014, if it survives legal challenges. You’re putting the cart before the horse trying to be poetic, but your statement lacks intellectual credibility.
Are you suggesting that we hire and swear in “papers” police here in the US?
josef
June 27th, 2011
4:56 pm
ZamVet
BTW…what’s it doing up your way…we’re having a boom-boom down here…came up out of nowhere it seems…lots of loud thunder, little bit of downpour, no lightening and not much wind…
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 27th, 2011
4:58 pm
Headline: “NY Man Busted Pretending to be Soldier for First Class Upgrade”
“A man was arrested after he donned an army uniform and posed as a soldier so that he would get bumped up to first class on a flight from the Dominican Republic to New York’s John F. Kennedy (JFK) International Airport, the New York Post reported Monday.
Although he was wearing a standard-issue army combat uniform and cap, he could not produce a military ID. Diaz — who sources said never served in the military — also had a black POW patch on his sleeve, which an actual soldier would never wear in that spot, the sources said. His dog tags were comically engraved with the words, “USA Marines Corp.”
SO WHAT’S THE PROBLEM? Obama says, “corPs-man” .
Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2011/06/27/li-man-rock-diaz-busted-pretending-to-be-soldier-for-first-class-upgrade/#ixzz1QVoiLYyh
AmVet
June 27th, 2011
4:58 pm
carlos @4:49. both of your arguments are completely preposterous.
First, “So, you think one Judge knows better and has more sense than the majority of the voters.”
Of course a federal judge knows more about the law than the majority of the voters! Or do you contend otherwise?
“No doubt you favor a strict intelligence and education test for all voters so that only the truly qualified will be able to vote.”
Do you often put BOTH feet in your mouth at the same time?
The ONLY people I have EVER seen here trying to restrict voting is far-right cons.
I have frequently advocated for the very opposite and for an empowered electorate. Make it even easier, via Saturday or Sunday elections, instant runoff voting, none of the above voting and so forth.
josef
June 27th, 2011
4:59 pm
BROSEPHUS
“Are you suggesting that we hire and swear in “papers” police here in the US?”
It wouldn’t surprise me one little bit…many another free, democratic, and civilized state has fallen prey to just that…
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 27th, 2011
5:00 pm
Brosepuss:
For illegal aliens ? You bet ………… it’s called the County Sheriff’s Department and the State Police.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 27th, 2011
5:01 pm
josef:
And don’t forget a police officer in full uniform having to show ID to buy a pack of cigarettes !
It’s the law ………. you know, “cigarette police” !
FedUp
June 27th, 2011
5:01 pm
Here are the facts:
July 2010 report showed:
425,000 ILLLEGAL immigrants in Georgia. 7th highest state in the US. Does it take that many ILLEGALS to work on farms and construction (that has totally dried up during the recession?)
$2.4 billion is spent PER YEAR of the Georgia State budget to support ILLEGALS. Georgia’s total 2010 state budget was $18 billion. So 13.3% of the entire budget is spent on ILLEGALS.
$317 million is spent on ILLEGALS for medical care. Remember it’s AGAINST THE LAW for government services to be provided to ILLEGALS! So when the ILLEGALS come here and have a baby, what does it cost the taxpayer on average? $10,000 for the delivery alone.
$1.2 billion is spent on education for ILLEGAL immigrants children in the school system. Over 1/4 of all ILLEGALS are children.
So as you are sitting there thinking it doesn’t cost anything from your pocket to support ILLEGALS, think again.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 27th, 2011
5:02 pm
P.S. to josef:
……………… and, I submit you are not a free (vs. anarchy), democratic (rule of law) or civilized (illegals murdering, driving DUI and plundering at will) state if you can’t control your borders.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
June 27th, 2011
5:03 pm
Never surprises me that Scout can take any story and with a few lines of jibberish somehow turn the point of the story into blame Obama. Why here was Scout at his finest. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke5Mr5eCF2U
Tell us again Scout about Area 51 on the birth certificate and the great revelation was were suppose to see.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 27th, 2011
5:04 pm
FedUp:
Good but you left out all of the crime stats.
What percentage of our jail population are illegals held or sentenced for violent crimes ?
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 27th, 2011
5:05 pm
Good Flight:
LOL !
josef
June 27th, 2011
5:05 pm
FedUp
How did you (or your source) arrive at that cost figure? Not being snarky, am truly interested…
josef
June 27th, 2011
5:07 pm
Scout
Okay, those crime statistics…how do they stack up percentagewise with those commited by our native born?
Brosephus
June 27th, 2011
5:07 pm
josef
I’m always surprised at how people want to have THEIR freedoms, but have no problem trampling on others to make them feel more secure.
Scout
How does one tell the difference between an illegal alien and a citizen in order to ask for “papers”?
FedUp
June 27th, 2011
5:07 pm
josef,
It was reported HERE on the AJC last July from PEW research data obtained.
josef
June 27th, 2011
5:09 pm
BROSEPHUS
How do you tell? Ask Unmentionable…criminally swarthy!
AmVet
June 27th, 2011
5:09 pm
Keep, that scene is hysterical.
There just ain’t any arguing on behalf of sidewindin’, bushwackin’, hornswaglin’, cracker croakers!
But arguably, the greatest line in that film is the one that Lynn Westmoreland Joe Bidened (sort of), “That uppity ______ hit me in the head with a shovel!”
Logical Dude
June 27th, 2011
5:10 pm
carlosgvv: you think one Judge knows better and has more sense than the majority of the voters.
That’s not what I said. The Judge knows the constitution better than the majority of voters.
It’s our whole system of checks and balances that this country is founded upon. If the “majority of voters” want to override the judge, then they can update the constitution to make things constitutional.
That’s how the country works. Checks and Balances.
josef
June 27th, 2011
5:10 pm
FedUp
Just wondering…I’ll go and look up how they arrived at those stats…
Thomas
June 27th, 2011
5:10 pm
moot point- a number of illegals are making their way to NYC. Simply pass around the hot potato until we get (elect) a President that leads-
Brosephus
June 27th, 2011
5:11 pm
$317 million is spent on ILLEGALS for medical care. Remember it’s AGAINST THE LAW for government services to be provided to ILLEGALS! So when the ILLEGALS come here and have a baby, what does it cost the taxpayer on average? $10,000 for the delivery alone.
However, upon return for a search of facts, there’s this nugget of information available if your google isn’t broken. Courtesy of the Georgia Department of Community Health:
http://www.georgia.gov/00/channel_title/0,2094,31446711_31945377,00.html
Many groups of people are covered by Medicaid. Even within these groups, though, certain requirements must be met. These may include your age; whether you are pregnant, disabled, blind, or aged; your income and assets, and whether you are a U.S. citizen or a qualified alien. Non-qualified aliens or undocumented immigrants may be eligible for emergency assistance only.
*Emphasis mine
If I’m correct, labor is considered part of that emergency assistance as well.
Joe Mama
June 27th, 2011
5:12 pm
Brosephus — “Last time I checked, we don’t live in East Germany or Russia where someone always has to show their “papers” on demand at any given time.”
I believe the phrases you are looking for are “Ihre Papiere, Kamerad” and “Dokumenti, Tovarisch.”
Dusty
June 27th, 2011
5:12 pm
Well, it is has been a pleasure cussin’ & discussin’ with most of you. Some days a lot can be learned. But I better get my “act” together and get busy.
I should mention good news before I leave. . Goergia is one of nine states declared fiscally sound. How ’bout that? We Georgians know how to be THRIFTY!! Now if we can just teach “Washington” to be thrifty so we can pay for the good stuff. Yes!! (Do NOT raise taxes!)
Logical Dude
June 27th, 2011
5:12 pm
FedUp at 5:01: So as you are sitting there thinking it doesn’t cost anything from your pocket to support ILLEGALS, think again
You just made a GREAT ARGUMENT for amnesty! Make THEM legal and make THEM pay for their services and taxes!
Thank you for your support!
Aquagirl
June 27th, 2011
5:13 pm
josef, I think it mostly came from FAIR.
http://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2011/may/11/renee-unterman/illegal-immigrants-hurt-hospitals-bottom-line-geor/
AmVet
June 27th, 2011
5:16 pm
Another goo day for Americna justice.
Blogovich was convicted on 17 of the 20 public corruption charges related to his attempt to sell the Senate seat once held by Barack Obama.
Here’s to making little rocks out of big ones. (Or going to some cushy minimum security, country club, fed pen like most white collar thieves…)
josef
June 27th, 2011
5:19 pm
aquagirl
Thanks…that’s about what I was suspecting…
Doggone/GA
June 27th, 2011
5:24 pm
“If I’m correct, labor is considered part of that emergency assistance as well”
Not to mention that the baby, once born, is an America citizen
Left wing management
June 27th, 2011
5:25 pm
““The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living” – Marx
the Truth
June 27th, 2011
5:27 pm
@At all mexicans
Please quit working for $4 an hour, WHITES are going to expect us to do the same!
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 27th, 2011
5:28 pm
josef:
Crime statistics ? Doesn’t matter ………… 1% is too much (to a family who lost a son (today’s paper) to an illegal DUI) because they are NOT supposed to be here.
Brosepuss:
Easy:
1) Police officer is either dispatched to a wreck (no “discretion” involved).
There are Corona bottles all over the floorboard
2) The driver is approached.
3) The driver is very nervous.
4) The driver speaks little or no English.
5) The driver has no proof of insurance.
6) The driver has no driver’s license.
7) The driver has no other picture ID.
9) There are two people hiding in the trunk
Next question.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 27th, 2011
5:31 pm
“If I’m correct, labor is considered part of that emergency assistance as well.”
Brosephus, you’re correct and that’s the avenue that illegals use. There are in fact pregnancy centers that cater specifically to illegals where they get pre-natal care at very affordable prices and those centers help them through the paper work for Medicaid assistance. When they start going into labor they’ve already been pre-arranged to check into the hospital through emergency. It’s costing states a bundle in Medicaid cost for illegals.
Jay
June 27th, 2011
5:32 pm
I’ve read through the opinion and put together a column for tomorrow on this topic, which is posted above. I’m about to close comments here in order to move people upstairs.
pogo
June 27th, 2011
5:32 pm
Uh Jay, if I were you, I would lay off using Uvalda, Ga to try to further your political point. I grew up 10 miles from it and reside 30 miles from it now. It was (and is) a place we avoided in my youth and for good reason. The whole area is built upon government dollars (and other revenue streams derived from how should I say it, questionable sources?).
For all of your harping about how we are hurting the hardworking illegals, they are still costing our society a huge amount of money. The farmers get off cheap in that they don’t have to pay the same tax rates as the rest of us (because of special deductions and depreciations) but the rest of us have to foot the bills for the social upkeep (food, healthcare, etc) of the illegals children. And that cost is huge and getting bigger. Again, there just plain isn’t enough money to fulfill all of your pollyanna dreams Jay.
AmVet
June 27th, 2011
5:35 pm
(CNN) – On the eve of her official presidential announcement, GOP presidential candidate Michele Bachmann incorrectly identified movie star John Wayne’s origins in an attempt to draw a parallel between her and the American icon.
“I want them to know just like John Wayne is from Waterloo Iowa, that’s the spirit I have too,” Bachmann said Sunday on Fox News. “It’s embracing America. It’s sacrificing for America.”
John Wayne the movie star was born in Winterset, Iowa, which is approximately three hours Southwest of Waterloo, Iowa, Bachmann’s native city and the site of her presidential announcement Monday. But according to the Waterloo Chamber of Commerce, the actor’s parents did live in the city at one point.
However, it was a different John Wayne that caused the misstep to go viral on the internet.
Serial killer John Wayne Gacy was born in Chicago, Illinois and later lived and worked in Waterloo where he was convicted of sodomy and sentenced to prison. Gacy, known as “the clown killer” was found guilty of 33 murders in the Chicago area in 1980 and died by lethal injection in 1994.
Bachman’s campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
So now the dingbat is idolizing serial killers! (grin, smile, smirk and laugh)
Keep Up the Good Fight!
June 27th, 2011
5:36 pm
Ahhh…. life and fetus is so important to protect. God’s little miracle don’t ya know. So we can’t have no abortion. But when that miracle is born to some, whether it be their legal status or their religion, then perhaps its not so important to provide medical care and assistance in the birth, just to be sure that they are prevented from the abortion. If mother and child die in the act of birth, well that be God’s will I be sure.
Aquagirl
June 27th, 2011
5:38 pm
“It’s costing states a bundle in Medicaid cost for illegals.”
As opposed to the costs of a US citizen born without pre-natal care, who will need medical care all their life? Children born here are citizens. You may not like it but it’s the law. And what part of LEGAL don’t you understand?
Besides I thought you were “pro-life.” Children don’t deserve protection in the womb if their mother is illegal? Hm.
Moderate Line
June 27th, 2011
5:42 pm
“Because Uvalda is such a small town, everyone in town knows when I’ve left town and the criminal element often takes advantage of this time to commit crimes,” he writes.
+++++
What happens when he goes to sleep? Seriously Jay you can do better.