In defense of Mitt Romney, amateur (unemployed) comedian
TAMPA, Fla. — Mitt Romney sat at the head of the table at a coffee shop here on Thursday, listening to a group of unemployed Floridians explain the challenges of looking for work. When they finished, he weighed in with a predicament of his own.
“I should tell my story,” Mr. Romney said. “I’m also unemployed.”
He chuckled. The eight people gathered around him, who had just finished talking about strategies of finding employment in a slow-to-recover economy, joined him in laughter.
“Are you on LinkedIn?” one of the men asked.
“I’m networking,” Mr. Romney replied. “I have my sight on a particular job.”
The Hill, noting that Romney “risked looking as though he had a tin ear,” quickly reported the inevitable Democratic denunciation.
“Mitt Romney’s comments today at an event with unemployed Floridians that he’s ‘also unemployed’ is inappropriate and insensitive to the millions of Americans looking for work,” said Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), the chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee. “This comment shows that Mitt Romney – a man who wants for nothing and whose only occupation for more than four years has been to run for president – is incredibly out of touch with what’s going on in our country and around the dinner tables of those who are out of work.”
“I am not sure that I can think of anything more out of touch with Granite Staters than ‘chuckling’ at unemployment as Mitt Romney did today in Florida,” New Hampshire Democratic Party Chairman Ray Buckley said.
My response? Give it a break, people. Seriously.
Being out of work is tough stuff, but I thought the Mittster was actually being kind of funny in that exchange. It’s absurd to go nuclear over such an innocent, well-intentioned piece of human interaction. If the unemployed people he was joking with thought it was appropriate and didn’t take offense, I’m more than willing to accept their judgment.
It’s a long time between now and November 2012; it’s OK to be human between now and then. Really it is.
Or it ought to be.
UPDATE: People are pointing out that Romney has been playing the game himself this week, twisting an Obama comment that the recovery has experienced “bumps in the road” by claiming that unemployed Americans are not “bumps in the road.” (see video below.)
It’s a fair point. On the other hand, it also confirms how silly such political games have become on both sides. I repeat: Give it a break, people. Seriously.
– Jay Bookman
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Good little liberal
June 16th, 2011
9:36 pm
St Simons – we’re on Island time
The fact that you get paid to play means nothing. What does mean something is that you apparently have a serious problem with alcohol addiction. It is obvious that you are drunk tonight and I was correct that you are a violent drunk.
I doubt if you hit a keyboard player with a beer bottle, but drunks do like to pretend to be bad.
I would suggest you sleep it off before you get even angrier and make a bigger fool of yourself: Probably the norm for you.
RW-(the original)
June 16th, 2011
9:36 pm
Dang! I just got off work and that 9:31PM comment sounds exactly like one where my page was stopped at 6 or 7 AM, and from the same poster too. I hope for Jay B’s sake this crusade to run off his visitors isn’t working.
Mick
June 16th, 2011
9:38 pm
doom
Funny, but just about everywhere I drive there’s “shovel ready” road construction work going on, hmmm…
St Simons - we're on Island time
June 16th, 2011
9:38 pm
oh, that was Atlanta-thuggy fun. Memories…Now back to the thread.
The subject. Talk about anything but Jay’s thread – right cons?
Mitt Romney is your nominee, cons and never mind Weiner – Mitt
has already cheated on you about man-caused global warming.
How can you, with any conscience, vote for him? Oh that’s right…
Good little liberal
June 16th, 2011
9:38 pm
Mick
I’m pretty sure that Jesus didn’t think that the government should control everyone’s life.
Bruno
June 16th, 2011
9:40 pm
“Just got on the blog and as is usual it’s apparent that there is no longer any posts on the original topic
Well, since the topic was about putting petty political differences aside, I’d say it was pretty much DOA.
Dave R.
June 16th, 2011
9:41 pm
“Of course, the lack of official charges does not stop you of accusing someone of a crime even though they were never charged.”
Asuasual, you operate under some misconception that I have written about or ascribe to some theory regarding voter fraud, Keep.
You ASSume much, son.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 16th, 2011
9:41 pm
“If you don’t like how THIS blog is run…well, blogspot.com is ready when you are.”
Yes, best to just ignore. Only immaturity and I’m thinking out loud.
TruthBe
June 16th, 2011
9:42 pm
Jay what about the JackAss in Chief Obama. 190 Million jobs lost since the start of his Presidency according to his own Department of Labor. This disgrace of a president doesn’t know one think about creating jobs because he’s never has. And as ALWAYS you Jay and the rest of the forshame media give the JackAss Obama a FREE pass. Liberals are LIARS…………
Mick
June 16th, 2011
9:43 pm
gll
**Jesus didn’t think**
A little paranoid aren’t ye? I don’t feel the gov’t controlling my life, I’m really in charge and not experiencing any gov’t interference – smooth sailing. What does jesus have to do with gov’t anyway?
Brosephus
June 16th, 2011
9:44 pm
Scout
No need to tell me to calm down as I was calm when I typed my response to you. Lets go for round #2, this time, I’ll go without any weapons… empty-handed combat.
1) If it was a “non-custodial” interview, why was there a police officer in addition to a school officer present in the interview? Nothing says authority more than a badge and a gun. Do you expect a 13 y/o who’s special needs to differentiate the difference between custodial & non-custodial interviews?
2) You can’t draw a physical line because not all kids mature the same at the same time. Some people who are special needs never mature. If the kid isn’t old enough to drive, then the kid should not be “interviewed” with police presence without a parent or guardian. Good enough for ya?
3) The waters are not muddied at all. We already take age into account whenever we initiate any immigration proceedings. In addition, we contact a parent or legal guardian before we do anything in relation to a minor. It should be noted that we have authority that doesn’t require Miranda in most cases, but there’s still considerations anyway when dealing with minors. See Reno vs Flores for any clarification as to detention of juveniles in relation to immigration.
4) Again, you miss the point that not all children develop and mature at the same time or the same age. If a 16 y/o is deemed to be an adult by the court based on maturity and understanding of the severity of the situation, there’s no grounds to appeal based on this case.
5) See #2 above. If a child is mature enough to drive and understand the complexities and seriousness of being in control of a 3000lb guided missile, then that child should understand the seriousness enough to call a parent if they’re surrounded by the principal and police. Then again, adults should have common sense enough to have a parent present if the interview is for something of a criminal nature anyway. Better to CYA up front instead of losing on a technicality. Dealing with minors is not the same as dealing with grown-ups.
Your point is moot in that the authorities should have safeguarded themselves in the first place when dealing with a minor. Had they done as much, the SCOTUS wouldn’t be involved at all.
You can now return to your regularly scheduled rant. I think it’s almost time for a rant about Muslim homosexuals having abortions or something.
Thulsa Doom
June 16th, 2011
9:44 pm
1811/1801 – 0311/0317
June 16th, 2011
9:23 pm
Yes. I saw that also when Obama was explaining to a reporter about how structural changes in the economy such as ATMs replacing bank tellers was putting people out of work. I couldn’t believe I was hearing this. Where in the hell has this fool been? Good Lord when refrigeration came it put the ice man and the milk man out of business. So what? Technological innovation putting people out of work has been going on forever- especially since the dawn of the Industrial Age. For the president to sit there and explain this to a reporter as if he has figured out something shows how clueless, how completely out of touch this moron is and most scary of all his utter and complete failure to understand basic economics and private enterprise. Same with his complete lack of knowledge on the federal permitting process on these shovel ready jobs that he just joked about.
Mick
June 16th, 2011
9:45 pm
truthbe
Deep breath..1…2…3…..its gonna be ok mon, yes it is, you are in control….
Brosephus
June 16th, 2011
9:45 pm
Recon
Welcome aboard the S.S. Nutcase…
md
June 16th, 2011
9:45 pm
Bruno…….and the next increase will be e-mail admins………folks are getting so many e-mails on a daily basis that they are having to hire admins to sort through it all. My better half can have 3, 4, 5000 at a time waiting to be addressed……….
Seems the trend is to fire off an e-mail to ‘clear ones responsibilities”…….while on the other end some poor smoo has to spend an entire day just on email……..
Dave R.
June 16th, 2011
9:45 pm
TruthBe, since there are only 325 million people in the U.S as of the latest census, I think That 190 million jobs lost number is just a bit on the high side . . .
Good little liberal
June 16th, 2011
9:46 pm
Mick
OK A real discussion.
Jesus taught that people be charitable to other people. So how does that make him a liberal?
I see churches that do exactly what he taught, but not any liberal organizations.
Any comments? Counters? Ideas? Clues?
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 16th, 2011
9:46 pm
Mick:
You’re a hoot. You really will go down sitting in a deck chair on the Titianic.
Yes, an “observation”. One of the most naive I have ever heard a president make.
CLUELESS !
Bruno
June 16th, 2011
9:46 pm
One of the greatest liberals in humankind? Jesus – I rest my case…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PczW76rpTbM
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
June 16th, 2011
9:47 pm
Taps and good night y’all. Good Golly ease up on each other this evening. Tomorrow is another day.
Brosephus
June 16th, 2011
9:47 pm
RW
I think that response is automatically posted at different times of the day under different aliases by the IT dept.
Billybob
June 16th, 2011
9:49 pm
You are listening Jay…..and I agree with and applaud your opinion today sir……shockingly!
Mick
June 16th, 2011
9:49 pm
doom
Preaching to the choir I see. Obama surely is one wily character. I mean he can get you all riled up by making a simple observation that you want to twist, interpret through your anti-obama filter – works every time…I’m really starting to appreciate that power over you all…remarkable..
Thulsa Doom
June 16th, 2011
9:49 pm
Mick
June 16th, 2011
9:38 pm
doom
Funny, but just about everywhere I drive there’s “shovel ready” road construction work going on, hmmm…
Mick,
We’re definitely not living in the same city. That’s for sure. I live in Atlanta where there is always some construction going on somewhere on the roads- and its been that way for decades it seems. But I see not one shovel ready project where I live. And apparently in the video Mr. Obama himself laughingly agrees with me on the subject of shovel ready projects.
RW-(the original)
June 16th, 2011
9:50 pm
I think That 190 million jobs lost number is just a bit on the high side .
Dave R,
Think outside the box for a second. TruthBe could be using some of the same math that allows Obama to take credit for “saved” jobs. In that case if 190 million people in China got a job then that’s 190 million lost American jobs.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 16th, 2011
9:50 pm
Good little liberal:
CHECK THIS OUT. I AM STILL WAITING FOR PART TWO:
WHAT WOULD JESUS CUT?
Micheal Youssef (Church of the Apostles)
The headline of the full-page ad asks, “What Would Jesus Cut? — A budget is a moral document.”
The text continues, “Our faith tells us that the moral test of a society is how it treats the poor.”
The ad was produced by Sojourners, a self-described “evangelical” organization whose slogan is “Faith in Action for Social Justice.” The ad was signed by Sojourners president Jim Wallis and more than two dozen Religious Left pastors, theologians, and activists. They urge our legislators to ask themselves, “What would Jesus cut?” from the federal budget.
How would you answer that question? My answer would be, “It’s a nonsense question. Your premise is faulty. Your priorities are not His priorities.”
Jesus had many opportunities to confront the Roman government about its spending priorities. It was, after all, one of the most brutal regimes in history. If the question “What would Jesus cut?” has any biblical relevance, we should be able to cite instances where Jesus lectured the Roman oppressors the same way the Religious Left lectures America.
Just compare ancient Rome with America today. Rome sent its armies out to conquer; America sends its soldiers out to liberate. Rome demanded tribute from other nations; America sends aid and emergency relief around the world. Rome enslaved nations; America rebuilds nations.
If the federal budget is a “moral document,” what does it say about America? It suggests to me that America may be the most moral nation on earth! Name one other country that has spent $15 billion fighting AIDS in Africa. Name one other country that has provided more disaster relief, that has built more schools and water treatment plants, that has supplied more food aid around the world, that has sent more doctors, teachers, and technical advisers to developing nations.
Even America’s military budget — much of which is being spent to rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan — reflects the basic compassion and unselfishness of the American people. Clearly, America hardly deserves any scolding from the Sojourners soapbox.
Did Jesus ever lecture the Roman Empire about its budget priorities? In Matthew 8, when the Roman centurion approached Jesus in Capernaum, our Lord could have said, “How dare you, a Roman warmonger, come to Me asking favors? Change your priorities! Tell your bosses in Rome to stop buying chariots and start funding welfare programs!” But Jesus didn’t lecture the centurion. He said, “I tell you the truth, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith!”
In Matthew 22, when the Pharisees asked if it was right to pay taxes to Caesar, the Lord could have thundered against Caesar’s misplaced budget priorities. Instead, He said, “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.”
In John 18, Jesus stood before Pontius Pilate, the Roman prefect, a friend of Caesar. Why didn’t He give Pilate an earful about the injustice of Roman rule? If ever there was a time for Jesus to “speak truth to power” and become the “social justice Messiah,” that was it!
But Jesus didn’t preach the social gospel to Pontius Pilate. Oh, he spoke truth to power, all right. He delivered a profound message to Pontius Pilate — and to you and me: “My kingdom is not of this world.”
Now, I’m not saying that Christians are never called to confront their government. God bless Dietrich Bonhoeffer and the Confessing Church for standing against Nazi genocide. But that’s not the situation here.
And I’m not saying there isn’t a social and compassionate dimension to the Christian gospel. There certainly is! Jesus had great compassion for the poor.
He preached in Nazareth, “The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because He has anointed me to preach good news to the poor.” He sent word to John the Baptist, “The deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is preached to the poor.” Jesus presented the obligation to help the poor as an individual responsibility, a Kingdom responsibility — not the duty of the secular government.
Both the religious and secular Left in America seem to want government to replace the church in ministering to the poor and needy. One of Barack Obama’s first proposals as president was a plan to slash tax deductions for charitable donations by high-income taxpayers. President Obama reasoned that a tax deduction “shouldn’t be a determining factor as to whether you’re giving that hundred dollars to the homeless shelter.” Maybe so — but since private charities do so much good for the poor, why eliminate incentives for charitable giving? Could it be that liberals see private charities as competing with the big government welfare state?
In Romans 13, Paul tells us that we pay our taxes and support the government so that we will have a just, orderly society in which law-abiding citizens are protected from wrongdoers. But the responsibility for mercy and compassion belongs to the church — not the government.
What would Jesus cut? When He stood before the Roman Empire, He didn’t suggest cuts. He received cuts. His flesh was cut by Roman nails and a Roman spear. He was bruised for our transgressions, and with His cuts we are healed. That’s the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Stay tuned. In Part 2, we’ll see how Jesus dealt with the “radical leftists” among his disciples.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1365610
St Simons - we're on Island time
June 16th, 2011
9:51 pm
gll- oh man of constant sorrow, I have made Deliverance boy angry.
My wife, the hospital administrator, sees projection in your posts.
Really.
And unlike you, she is qualified to make those diagnoses.
She knows all the other administrators in Ga. We used to
live up there. She can call somebody and help you. This is supposed
to be fun, dude.
Just be sittin on that left hand next time I play with you.
.
getalife
June 16th, 2011
9:51 pm
RW,
“I hope for Jay B’s sake this crusade to run off his visitors isn’t working.”
Not on my watch.
AmVet
June 16th, 2011
9:52 pm
TruthbeGone, I read where there were actually 190 billion jobs lost under Obama.
Jesus is OK. It’s just the sleazeball, televangelist charlatans and their Ponzi schemes as well as shove him in your face at every opportunity nutjobs that piss people off!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEC7d5jbAbo
Mick
June 16th, 2011
9:52 pm
scout
Where the hell were you during the last guys remarkable string of nonsense? When the president says anything it is dissected to suit your ends…bogus…obama is ok and a quantum improvement over the previous dunce…
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 16th, 2011
9:52 pm
Thulsa:
You might as well give up. Mick is an intelligent guy and seems much more reasonable than some of the “lock-nuts” on here but he is also the type of person that will NOT let go of a philosophy no matter what the facts say.
Dave R.
June 16th, 2011
9:52 pm
RW, I had not thought of that!
And if they’re using the same accounting methodology and double counting they used for health care reform justification, that 190 million jobs lost might just be right!
RW-(the original)
June 16th, 2011
9:54 pm
I think that response is automatically posted at different times of the day under different aliases by the IT dept
Borsephus,
The way they have this page working they might have only posted it once and it time travels. I think it was before your time but a “feature” of the early blogs here had comments suddenly duplicating themselves on other blog pages without you knowing it.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 16th, 2011
9:55 pm
Mick:
I was here ………… you weren’t then if I remember.
Ask any of the old timers here. I got all over Bush for many things not the least of which was the original invasion of Iraq debacle (and the loss of American lives that need not have been) as well as his terrible position on immigration.
Unlike liberal “lock-nuts” (hence the handle “lock-nuts”) on here who would never DARE expose Obama for something no matter how obvious.
As I said about you earlier…………………… philosophy for a liberal always trumps truth.
oldguy
June 16th, 2011
9:55 pm
OK GLL
I love you and your points but you are over the line on St Simons; just ease up buddy, Attack his points, not him! I just had it out with “Keep” over him saying I was “Low IQ” because of my conservative positions so I feel obligated to defend St Simons even if his positions are looney toons!1 You nay be spot on but I take issue with the personal attack.
Sorry to both of you guys!!
Thulsa Doom
June 16th, 2011
9:55 pm
Mick,
This guy just says some really stupid, clueless things all the time. I’ll give you another example. Do you remember when he was at that town hall or wherever and a person asked him about the price of gas? And Obama told him that he should look at trading in the truck for a better gas mileage vehicle. What the hell? Does the man not realize that with everyone wanting to do the same that ya can’t even give away a pickup truck and if you can find a dealer to take the vehicle as a trade in that you’re going to get a fraction of what its worth? Sometimes he says such simpleton things that its astounding. Does the man not think that people already know these things and that he’s disseminating some kind of new truth to mankind? Or is he just stupid?
Mick
June 16th, 2011
9:56 pm
**the type of person that will NOT let go of a philosophy no matter what the facts say.**
Mirror, mirror on the wall, why dost thou not see thy plank in thine own eyes?
RW-(the original)
June 16th, 2011
9:57 pm
Borsephus???
Sorry Bro but that uproariously funny slap was just a typo.
IHB
Keep Up the Good Fight!
June 16th, 2011
9:57 pm
Oldguy: Took the wife in for a cortisone injection for back pain about five days ago. I didn’t know exactly which suite in the building
the center occupied, so I had to consult the directory. Wanna guess how many doctors in Macon GA appear to be from third-world countries?
____________
I stand by my prior post.
oldguy
June 16th, 2011
9:58 pm
St Simons;
Ditto to you!!!
Mick
June 16th, 2011
9:59 pm
doom
What about when he says something brilliant? After the gabrielle giffords shooting, he was the voice of reason. A man is flesh and blood, they all will invariably say something not up to par, myself included…
Bruno
June 16th, 2011
10:00 pm
Jesus is OK. It’s just the sleazeball, televangelist charlatans and their Ponzi schemes as well as shove him in your face at every opportunity nutjobs that piss people off!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-79uI_u9Src
Good little liberal
June 16th, 2011
10:01 pm
1811/1801 – 0311/0317
The connection between liberalism and the teachings of Jesus are based on several inaccuracies in the overall logic of the left. They are convinced that only they are concerned with their fellow man so since Jesus taught compassion for his fellow man that Jesus must have been a liberal.
What they fail to recognize is with all their good intentions, their approaches to solving the problems of the poor simply do not work. Their welfare programs actually encourage the social underground in this country that they call the poor, but that underground actually has generational poverty. It is a trap that few escape.
That trap is perfect for the Democrats because it obligates a large part of the public to support them and they pay for those votes with someone else’s money.
I would love to travel into the future and see what is written about the effects of liberalism on society as a whole. I’m afraid that the movie Idiotcrasy come s to mind.
oldguy
June 16th, 2011
10:02 pm
Keep,
I am divorsed for 30 years and live in Raleigh, N.C.!! That post was directed TO ME not by me !! LEARN THE SYSTEM!!
Dave R.
June 16th, 2011
10:03 pm
Mick, how about you change “brilliant” to “inspiring”?
Hope & Punt ™ may be a lot of things (and not a lot of them good) but “brilliant” ain’t one of them.
Dave R.
June 16th, 2011
10:04 pm
Don’t worry, oldguy. Keep gets a little confused at times, and when that happens he just starts making things up.
Mick
June 16th, 2011
10:05 pm
scout
By the way, thanks for the complement. I still would want you on my team in combat so I could accidently shoot you like any good lib would…just kidding. All presidents should be treated to a healthy dose of skepticism and that you and doom do well. However, you both just have to cross the line and throw in your personal invective – it’s a drag man…
Finn McCool
June 16th, 2011
10:07 pm
wow, braves tie it in the bottom of the 9th.
Good little liberal
June 16th, 2011
10:09 pm
oldguy
No problem. But St Slime doesn’t present ideas. He presents personal attacks. So does keep up.
He’s a drunk. he comes here after having a few too many and I’ll call it on him every time. Somebody should.
Keep up is the village ankle biter. It is impossible to carry on an adult conversation with him present on the blog. In the past, I have enjoyed letting him make a fool of himself and he deeply resents that.
He loves to gang up with his abusive friends and I can take them all on, but when he is alone, like tonight, he does implode. Personally, I like to watch it happen, much I like to watch Weiner implode.
Karma is a B*tch.
oldguy
June 16th, 2011
10:09 pm
Thanks Dave,
I’m 69 and not getting any younger (thus the “handle”) but geez!! I do know the difference between the poster and the addressee!!
Good little liberal
June 16th, 2011
10:11 pm
St Simons – we’re on Island time
What does your wife think of your violent alcoholism?
Mick
June 16th, 2011
10:11 pm
dave r
Your hope and punt tag is so boring. You’re right, inspiring is more accurate. He was totally brilliant when the repubs invited him to their little retreat. You just can’t fathom how you, a lowly councilman, only made it so far but obama on the other hand, grabbed the brass ring. Yes, all the planets were in alignment plus luck, however he seized it – hell of a job…actually quite brilliant…
oldguy
June 16th, 2011
10:12 pm
Hey,
Us old Nam vets have got to look out for each other!!
Thulsa Doom
June 16th, 2011
10:14 pm
Mick at 9:59,
True enough. They all have gaffes- Dan Quayle, Obama, I wanted to scream at Bush every time he said nukular, but what I’m talking about is that the man just seems out of touch. The ATM thing is just bizarre but at the same time its very telling. It means he is either incredibly lacking in his economics knowledge and wanted to expound upon what he thinks is a new structural development in the economy as he said. Or he is of the opinion that U.S. electorate is stupid and doesn’t already understand basic concepts like technological innovation replacing jobs.
Dave R.
June 16th, 2011
10:15 pm
“He was totally brilliant when the repubs invited him to their little retreat.”
Actually, he wasn’t. But you go right on thinking that.
“You just can’t fathom how you, a lowly councilman, only made it so far but obama on the other hand, grabbed the brass ring.”
First it was county commissioner. Please get it right. I earned that.
And second, I didn’t have the national media in the tank for me. If he had been vetted in any way like Sarah Palin has been scrutinized, Hillary would be President today.
Thulsa Doom
June 16th, 2011
10:15 pm
Good little liberal,
Are you sure he’s drunk. You need not necessarily be drunk to be a raving lunatic.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
June 16th, 2011
10:16 pm
oldguy…if that was not your comment, I do apologize for my mistaken memory on that issue. It can get rather convulted at times in here, but unlike Dave who is confused about what is made up and what is a mistaken attribution, I can admit it. I dont move the goal posts or when presented with the logic of a false standard whine about its application.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 16th, 2011
10:16 pm
Mick:
I hear you.
I named two major things Bush did wrong.
Please provide two major thins Obams is doing wrong.
Dave R.
June 16th, 2011
10:17 pm
“It means he is either incredibly lacking in his economics knowledge”
Ooooh! Ooooh! I’ll vote for THAT one!
Mick
June 16th, 2011
10:18 pm
doom
I remember when everybody was getting on bush the elders case when he didn’t know what an electronic scanner at the supermarket was. I was scratching my head wondering what the big deal was, it’s not like the president goes out grocery shopping, I want my president to be exempt from that chore, there’s more important work to be done like a tax increase…
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 16th, 2011
10:19 pm
Good little liberal:
The biggest mistake “lock-nuts” make is that they say Jesus was the utlimate in tolerance and inclusivity. Nothing could be farther from the truth.
When it came to the most important thing a human being will EVER face He was as narrow minded (and correctly so as He was God) as we could imagine:
“No one comes to the Father BUT THROUGH ME”
“Except you believe in Me you are DEAD IN YOUR SINS”
getalife
June 16th, 2011
10:19 pm
Good grief you cons are so full of yourselves.
How many jobs did w lose?
Dave R.
June 16th, 2011
10:19 pm
And yet I don’t see any factual data to back up your assertion that I have written about or ascribe to voter fraud, Keep.
Yet that is just what you accused me of doing.
But it’s a good thing you admit when you are wrong . . .
Mick
June 16th, 2011
10:22 pm
**Please provide two major thins Obams is doing wrong.**
Continuing the war in afghanistan – wrong. Not getting us the best trade deals in the world that protect american workers, jobs, and the country – failing. Getting involved in libya – I was totally against that because I’m an isolationist, we need to retire from world cop duty – we are broke. That’s three, ok?
Brosephus
June 16th, 2011
10:24 pm
Borsephus
I think that is the “thing” that got Weiner in trouble.
That issue predates me. I don’t remember suffering from that one.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 16th, 2011
10:24 pm
Mick:
Not knowing what a scanner is or how much a gallon of milk costs is a far cry from not even understanding how our economy works.
You forget …………… both Bush’s were BUSINESSMEN and good ones at that.
El Jefe was a …………… community organizer that got his “grants” for Uncle Sam.
It the difference between the 7th grade team and the varsity.
P.S.
Obama has the lowest number (I believe 8%) of people with business experience in his administration that any one in modern times.
That’s would be like having the Joint Chiefs of Staff made of of senior Boy Scout leaders.
Brosephus
June 16th, 2011
10:25 pm
Past time for my check out….
Catch y’all on the flip side…
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 16th, 2011
10:25 pm
Very good. What took you so long?
I used to throw them out there on Bush WITHOUT BEING PROMPTED !
Good little liberal
June 16th, 2011
10:26 pm
Thulsa Doom
I’ve actually thought about that since I wrote that, so the choices are that he has the excuse of alcoholism or he is simply a violent, abusive guy.
I would guess, with his character differences that he is a drunk. The character changes are probably attributed to the stage of intoxication. The signs are pretty clear. He is constantly talking about how I or anyone should relax with some drink under a palm tree. i’ve known a lot of drunks and it is a common conception on their part that the only way to be happy is to be drinking.
That’s St Slime in a nutshell.
AmVet
June 16th, 2011
10:26 pm
A brilliant man of courage and morality, who changed the world, summed it up pretty well…
“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” ~Mohandas Gandhi
stands for decibels
June 16th, 2011
10:26 pm
He responds in Smyrna about the gaffe and blames the President.
Mitt has a loose stool and blames the President.
AmVet
June 16th, 2011
10:28 pm
Great Zappa, B.
In the same vein…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxW4U-SOqN8
Good little liberal
June 16th, 2011
10:28 pm
getalife
Even with the devastating two years that the dim had Congress, W still created about 2 million jobs. If you take out those last two years, it was about 12 million.
getalife
June 16th, 2011
10:29 pm
I guess the how many jobs did w lose is too tough for our con geniuses.
oldguy
June 16th, 2011
10:30 pm
Apology Accepted Keep;
Going down to get some good Western N.C. BBQ!!
Later
Mick
June 16th, 2011
10:31 pm
**both Bush’s were BUSINESSMEN and good ones at that.**
The old man – yes, the son? HELL NO!!!!!! Dude that sob ran every company he ever touched into bankruptcy and daddy was always there to bail him out, sometimes with a little saudi help. At the end of bush’s term this country was in ruins, just like old times for junior. Timing is everything in life, bush jr and his sorry azz record begat obama and that’s a fact jack…..
getalife
June 16th, 2011
10:31 pm
lil lib,
How many jobs dis w lose.
No deflection and blame the dems.
Be honest for a change……………
vuduchld
June 16th, 2011
10:32 pm
Ok, so this maggot is unemployed and will continue to be in January 2013. Why is this news?
Good little liberal
June 16th, 2011
10:35 pm
getalife
See 10:28
If you have proof of other numbers please post them or at least present what you think they are.
Dave R.
June 16th, 2011
10:36 pm
“How many jobs dis w lose.”
None. The President doesn’t lose jobs. The economy does.
RW-(the original)
June 16th, 2011
10:36 pm
Well you don’t see a walk off balk very often.
G’night y’all!
Thulsa Doom
June 16th, 2011
10:37 pm
Mick,
At first I had the knee jerk reaction about Bush 1 that the dude was indeed out of touch because he didn’t know they use scanners in grocery stores. But then I realized he had been in such high profile jobs such as VP for 2 terms, CIA director before that, etc. that the man had no time or need to go into a grocery store in a minumum of 10-15 years. No wonder he didn’t know.
But as scout pointed out he understood the macro workings of the economy well which is a whole different thing. It is clear to me from many other Obama statements- several I can think of, that this man simply does not have an understanding of economics.
I’ll give you just one more example. The most telling point about Obama was when Charles Gibson asked Obama why he wanted to raise the capital gains tax rate when historical evidence showed that a lower cap. gains tax rate brought in more tax revenue to the federal govt then a higher cap gains tax rate. Obama made the statement to Charles Gibson that that didn’t matter- that it was an issue of ‘fairness’. In other words the rigid ideology of punishing the rich was more important to Obama then putting the cap gains tax at a rate which truly maximizes revenue to the federal govt. Truly a breathtaking statement and at that point it was obvious to me that Obama just doesn’t get it- and doesn’t care to either.
Good little liberal
June 16th, 2011
10:38 pm
Mick
So which companies did Bush the younger run into the ground?
Liberals always say that because that’s what they consider common knowledge, but none seem to be able to actually name the companies. Can you?
AmVet
June 16th, 2011
10:41 pm
“…both Bush’s were BUSINESSMEN and good ones at that.”
WTF! Scout, are you oblivious???
W’s record in business was a total train wreck! The research -free cons have to ask which companies he screwed up? What is it with you Rip Van Winkles?
But just for grins, trot out that sterling list of accomplishments, OK?
(How many boners is that tonight alone?)
Mick
June 16th, 2011
10:41 pm
**raise the capital gains tax rate when historical evidence showed that a lower cap. gains tax rate brought in more tax revenue to the federal govt then a higher cap gains tax rate. **
There are many economists who wouldn’t agree with you on that. Two schools of thought but dave r is absolutely correct when he states, “The President doesn’t lose jobs. The economy does.”
Thulsa Doom
June 16th, 2011
10:42 pm
Good little liberal,
Actually Jay put it down that Bush created 4.5 million jobs even after accounting for the recession.
Jay
June 2nd, 2011
9:00 pm
Actually, Chuck is right, more right than he realizes. I was relying on annual data for the numbers on Bush employment. The monthly figures, Jan 01 to Jan 09, were 137.2 million to 142.2 million, or an increase of 4.5 million.
My error, and I apologize.= Jay
Good little liberal
June 16th, 2011
10:43 pm
AmVet
Can you name the companies that Bush ran into the ground? If you can’t, you’ve been buying into more liberal BS.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 16th, 2011
10:44 pm
Brosephus:
You’re a hoot but you continue to miss the point ……….. I think intentionally so.
But that’s o.k.
I’ll make one more attempt at the “Bright Line” concept which is the main point I am trying to make whether it involves the interviewing of minors, searches incident to arrest, vehicle searches, hot pursuit, etc., etc. :
SCENARIO:
When an officer arrests a subject in a vehicle, he/she has the right then to search the passenger compartment of the vehicle and the trunk.
However, any “locked” containers in the trunk cannot be searched as the individual obviously had a greater expectation of privacy or he/she wouldn’t have locked it. The officer has to get a search warrant for that – let’s say a locked suitcase. The SCOTUS has ruled on that. With me so far?
Now, let’s suppose when the officer/federal agent opens the trunk (a counterfeit currency case) there is no lock on a “suitcase” but there is:
1) A lock that is not shut (the subject intended to lock it but forgot).
2) Heavy wire tied up around the suitcase as tight as possible (subject too poor to buy a lock).
3) Lots of string tied up around the suitcase and tied in several big knots (too poor to buy a lock).
4) String wound around the suitcase but tied in a bow (easily untied).
5) A big huge rubber band around the suitcase.
6) A note that says, “private property – keep out”.
Now, ……………. each of the above scenarios is a Supreme Court case waiting to happen after untold waste of money and time before appellate courts. All you need is the right attorney, the ACLU or whatever.
WHY?
Because the SCOTUS did not draw a BRIGHT LINE on arrest/vehicle searches.
In other words …………… you can search EVERYTHING in the trunk or NOTHING in the trunk .
Officers DON’T CARE !
Just give them BRIGHT LINE rules so they don’t waste their time, your time or the taxpayer’s money.
Good little liberal
June 16th, 2011
10:44 pm
Thulsa Doom
I can’t argue with Jay on that one.
Mick
June 16th, 2011
10:44 pm
gll
Yes, arbusto (bush in spanish) Then there was a company called spectrum 7 which bush was bailed out by a saudi prince. Can you name one successful company he ran?
getalife
June 16th, 2011
10:45 pm
lil lib,
He lost 8 million jobs.
It is on their job chart they use.
Google it.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 16th, 2011
10:46 pm
AmVet:
Very good !
“He” was God in the flesh.
We are mere imperfect mortals.
Mick
June 16th, 2011
10:47 pm
**We are mere imperfect mortals.**
Amen…good night
Good little liberal
June 16th, 2011
10:47 pm
AmVet, getalife
The common misconception that Bush destroyed companies come from Paul Krugman who wrote several articles, trying to connect Bush and Cheney with Enron which were incredibly unsuccessful. Other than all being from Texas, there were no connections. However while Krugman was trying to associate the wrong people with Enron, Krugman himself was on the Enron board of advisors.
Typical Liberal BS.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
June 16th, 2011
10:47 pm
Good little liberal @ 10:43
Thank you ………….. they are steaming tonight.
I really hope one of them does not have a stroke.
Uncle Jed
June 16th, 2011
10:47 pm
Now listen here, Mister, don’t launch on my happy a$$. I got this email today and even if you have no use for organized religion (or any religion), the words are thought provoking, even if some 15 year old is not responsible for their construction. Don’t be afraid, just read the words and reflect for a moment or two; remember your grandparents and loved ones; and refrain from an outlash.
Since the Pledge of Allegiance and The Lord’s Prayer are not allowed in most public schools anymore because the word ‘God’ is mentioned…..
A kid in Arizona wrote the attached
NEW school prayer:
Now I sit me down in school
Where praying is against the rule
For this great nation under God
Finds mention of Him very odd.
If scripture now the class recites,
It violates the Bill of Rights.
And anytime my head I bow
Becomes a Federal matter now.
Our hair can be purple, orange or green,
That’s no offense; it’s a freedom scene..
The law is specific, the law is precise.
Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice.
For praying in a public hall
Might offend someone with no faith at all..
In silence alone we must meditate,
God’s name is prohibited by the state.
We’re allowed to cuss and dress like freaks,
And pierce our noses, tongues and cheeks…
They’ve outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible.
To quote the Good Book makes me liable.
We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen,
And the ‘unwed daddy,’ our Senior King.
It’s ‘inappropriate’ to teach right from wrong,
We’re taught that such ‘judgments’ do not belong..
We can get our condoms and birth controls,
Study witchcraft, vampires and totem poles..
But the Ten Commandments are not allowed,
No word of God must reach this crowd.
It’s scary here I must confess,
When chaos reigns the school’s a mess.
So, Lord, this silent plea I make:
Should I be shot; My soul please take!
Amen
Good little liberal
June 16th, 2011
10:48 pm
getalife
Jay say he gained 4.5 million jobs. Take it up with Jay.
And who is “their” in their job chart they use?
Thulsa Doom
June 16th, 2011
10:49 pm
Mick,
There are not many economists who would disagree with me. There is an equilibrium point at which tax revenue is maximized. From what I’ve seen its 17 or 18%. Right now its 15% so in my opinion despite being a con the cap gains tax should rise 2-3%. But over 18% and certainly 20% or more it seems that investors in particular are more loathe to take profits- just basic investor psychology and any stockbroker will tell you the same. Some cons think it should be something ridiculously low like 10% and some libs think it should be something ridiculous like 30-40%. Both are wrong and the happy medium from the data I’ve seen is 17-18%. You can look it up though and you will see that the years in which the cap gains right has been high that there has been a corresponding decrease in govt revenue as a % of the economy. I’ll try to find it and post it.
getalife
June 16th, 2011
10:49 pm
“Enron which were incredibly unsuccessful,”
Ah man, there has to be drugs in your water.
You are way out there in la, la land lil lib.
Hilarious.
Hillbilly D
June 16th, 2011
10:50 pm
Well you don’t see a walk off balk very often.
Can’t say that I’ve ever seen one.