A day to honor and remember

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For those now at peace, and those still in strife

Above, the Vietnam Memorial; left, the Marine Corps War Memorial at Arlington National Cemetery; below, a Marine in Helmand Province, Afghanistan
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SOUTHERN ATL

May 30th, 2011
8:17 am

God Bless America and all of our “Veterans Past and Present”!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCEOgMAgmv4

@@

May 30th, 2011
8:23 am

A pictorial of our troops holding ground.

Very nice, jay.

And from the mouths of babes.

carlosgvv

May 30th, 2011
8:37 am

I have a great idea!! Lets stop getting involved in usless wars like Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. Then, when Memorial day comes each year, there will be less dead soldiers to remember and honor.

Road Scholar

May 30th, 2011
8:39 am

A hearty “Thank you !”for those who defend our freedom and our country, esp those who have paid the ultimate price. On our latvisit to DC, we visited the Vietnam War Memorial as well as the new World War 2 memorial. The Vietnam memorial was stark andmoving, and the WWII memorial was just beatiful. For those who have not visitd either, it was a trip worthwhile.

Hillbilly D

May 30th, 2011
8:40 am

Today is for the ones who never made it home. Let’s not forget.

Peadawg

May 30th, 2011
8:47 am

You forgot to put Libya on that list, carlos.

kayaker 71

May 30th, 2011
8:55 am

Went to the traveling Wall on Friday which is in Griffin, GA through tomorrow. The keynote speaker for the dedication was my good friend, a retired veterinarian in Griffin. Flew 640 combat missions in a Huey in one year, Silver Star and DFC winner with a couple of Purple Hearts thrown in…. did it all at age 23. God Bless ‘em all.

carlosgvv

May 30th, 2011
9:12 am

Peadawg

We haven’t lost anyone in Libya. Yet.

Brosephus

May 30th, 2011
9:26 am

S ATL

Nice song.
To all those who served, I appreciate all that you gave. For those who lost someone who served, their sacrifice did not go unappreciated. Everyone take the time to thank a veteran today.

josef nix

May 30th, 2011
9:47 am

Now more than ever

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCavKL2zdjM&feature=related

and what they died for

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM18HENqNbk

And maybe Jay will give us another thread to vent our spleens…this one hardly seems appropriate…

Normal

May 30th, 2011
10:08 am

Just this minute got back from “My Old Kentucky Home” and thought I’d check in to say happy Memorial Day to all but especially to my fellow vets.

While my war time experiences made me rabidly anti war, the experiences of others were different from mine but that does not matter this day, because we are all united in honoring our Fallen Comrades. God’s Honor Guard.

I promised Ms Zucker I would play this song today. Listen to the words
and listen all the way through. I did play this Friday night.
To me, the “Anti War Veteran”, this song really, really touched me.

Anyway…enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PypbEnE2fhU

josef nix

May 30th, 2011
10:09 am

Doggone

I agree with you on time…just not place…just call me a fuddy duddy on such things…

Doggone/GA

May 30th, 2011
10:09 am

“And maybe Jay will give us another thread to vent our spleens…this one hardly seems appropriate”

I agree about venting spleens, but what better time to discuss why and where we ask our soldiers to put their lives on the line for us? And IS it for US?

Don't Forget

May 30th, 2011
10:12 am

God rist the souls of those who made the ultimate sacrifice and God Bless America.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vL4g_u_wc4

Ooo, Freedom
Ooo, Liberty
O… Leave me alone
to find my own way home

AmVet

May 30th, 2011
10:18 am

On this sacred day of remembrance, I once again, offer solemn praise and never ending gratitude to my fellow countrymen who did not come home. To those who paid the ultimate sacrifice – so that we who carry on, can live in freedom – I tell you that your sacrifice was not in vain.

You are my heroes, you have always been so. And because of you, I have all that I have, including my very life.

To say thank you, seems so inadequate.

Hurrah for the flag of the free.
May it wave as our standard forever
The gem of the land and the sea,
The banner of the right.
Let despots remember the day
When our fathers with might endeavor
Proclaimed as they marched to the fray,
That by their might and by their right
It waves forever.

Uncle Jed

May 30th, 2011
10:27 am

Still in Iraq? Did someone tell a fib?

Real Scooter

May 30th, 2011
10:34 am

Normal

May 30th, 2011
10:08 am

Dang Normal,that brought a tear to my eye. Cut that out will ya? Whew!!!

Normal

May 30th, 2011
10:39 am

Scooter,

That song does touch yo, doesn’t it?

Off to recycle a dead TV. Hmmmm, recycle a dead TV on Memorial Day…ironic somehow… :)

josef nix

May 30th, 2011
10:41 am

AmVet

May 30th, 2011
10:48 am

Scooter, me too. That was a truly beautiful and touching song, jo.

As I get older, and realize that I have fewer of them left, this holiday has a very strong effect on me. It is both terribly melancholy and strangely hopeful, all at the same time.

Bittersweet as that is, it is my favorite holiday. A day for some personal redemption and to truly live that E Pluribus Unum promise.

And my mind drifts off to a small military cemetery along a river in Nebraska…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOkepY_Zj8c

carlosgvv

May 30th, 2011
10:55 am

Norman

How about Bob Dylan’s “Masters of War”?

Mary Elizabeth

May 30th, 2011
10:58 am

For all Americans – North to South, East to West, Right to Left
And for all who want, for themselves, the soul of America at her best

Ray Charles’ – America the Beautiful -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCEOgMAgmv4

A warm “thank you” to all veterans, living and dead, including my deceased husband

And @@, thank you for the song last evening. Lovely! :-)

Mary Elizabeth

May 30th, 2011
11:18 am

Sorry for the duplication, SOUTHERN ATL, and all

I try again -

Here are the words of Abraham Lincoln, who gave his life that our nation, as we know it, might live on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5HIJPDoru4&feature=related

Mick

May 30th, 2011
11:38 am

It’s a tough day for those who have lost love ones, we thank them for their service. My nephew got orders that he will shipping out to afghanistan in january 2012. Let’s hope to god that common sense will prevail and this conflict is ended as soon as possibe…Have a great day all-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH4-tOqLH94

RW-(the original)

May 30th, 2011
11:41 am

On this somber day of reverence and reflection it saddens me more every year that so many seem to confuse Memorial Day with Veterans Day. Frankly I don’t see why we limit Memorial Day to memorializing only military members who died in wars. Civilian deaths on 9/11 were every bit in the same classification of Americans who died in a war, just one we didn’t enter into freely.

With that in mind nothing strikes me as more valiant than the passengers of flight 93 that saw war being visited on our country, enlisted on the spot, formed their unit and defined their mission never wavering that their mission was one of suicide. The passengers that carried out that mission should be given battlefield commissions and full military honors.

Enjoy your Memorial Day.

Road Scholar

May 30th, 2011
11:52 am

Mick, may God be with him and protect him.Our prayers go out to all in harm’s way.

getalife

May 30th, 2011
12:01 pm

We honor their service everyday on this blog.

Brosephus

May 30th, 2011
12:10 pm

RW

Agree on the civilian deaths too. There have been civilians who have made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan. They should not be lost when recalling those who have given all. Personally, I think we should give thanks and rememberance daily for those who’ve put their lives on the line to make our lives safer.

TnGelding

May 30th, 2011
12:19 pm

I salute our fallen heroes for their service and sacrifice, and apologize for the civilian “leadership” that has placed them in harm’s way so needlessly over the years. Sadly, I’m afraid most of them died in vain.

Surely with all these vacant houses someone can come up with a plan to house our homelesss vets.

TnGelding

May 30th, 2011
12:26 pm

Actually, we do honor all dead on this day.

“Begun as a ritual of remembrance and reconciliation after the Civil War, by the early 20th century, Memorial Day was an occasion for more general expressions of memory, as ordinary people visited the graves of their deceased relatives, whether they had served in the military or not.”

JKL2

May 30th, 2011
12:27 pm

To absent friends…

Happy Memorial Day everyone.

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

May 30th, 2011
12:41 pm

“For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know” Author Unknown …… found written on a C-rations box, Khe Sahn, Vietnam – 1968

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9E7L_gYbWI&feature=related (Sgt. MacKenzie)

ORIGINAL SCOTTISH VERSION

Lay me doon in the caul caul groon
Whaur afore monie mair huv gaun
Lay me doon in the caul caul groon
Whaur afore monie mair huv gaun

When they come a wull staun ma groon
Staun ma groon al nae be afraid

Thoughts awe hame tak awa ma fear
Sweat an bluid hide ma veil awe tears

Ains a year say a prayer faur me
Close yir een an remember me

Nair mair shall a see the sun
For a fell tae a Germans gun

Lay me doon in the caul caul groon
Whaur afore monie mair huv gaun

Lay me doon in the caul caul groon
Whaur afore monie mair huv gaun

Whaur afore monie mair huv gaun

MODERN VERSION

Lay me down in the cold cold ground
Where before many more have gone
Lay me down in the cold cold ground
Where before many more have gone

When they come I will stand my ground
Stand my ground I’ll not be afraid

Thoughts of home take away my fear
Sweat and blood hide my veil of tears

Once a year say a prayer for me
Close your eyes and remember me

Never more shall I see the sun
For I fell to a Germans gun

Lay me down in the cold cold ground
Where before many more have gone
Lay me down in the cold cold ground
Where before many more have gone

Where before many more have gone

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgt._MacKenzie (The True Story Behind the Song)

St Simons - we're on Island time

May 30th, 2011
12:49 pm

I sit here on Georgia’s beautiful beaches today, largely because of The Great Men of Service. To my Grandaddy and Uncle Jake, Marines who hit the beach at Gudalcanal, Iwo Jima, and went all the way to Tinian. To cousins Larry (Vietnam), Raymond (CIA).

Thank you. As Grandaddy said, “Never is there a better day to remember that We’re All in This Together”

PJ

May 30th, 2011
1:22 pm

Mick @11:38 am – My son is also going to Afghanistan in January 2011. Would your nephew happen to be in the Airforce.

PJ

May 30th, 2011
1:23 pm

Sorry Mick, I meant 2012.

Thulsa Doom

May 30th, 2011
1:34 pm

Mick,

I often find myself in disagreement with you. But God bless your nephew and may he stay safe.

SOUTHERN ATL

May 30th, 2011
1:52 pm

Mary Elizabeth@11:18 no problem and thanks for the History 101 refresh!!!

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

May 30th, 2011
2:00 pm

IN HONOR OF OUR FALLEN VETERANS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeasNTq1mQA&feature=related

MANSIONS OF THE LORD LYRICS

To fallen soldiers let us sing,
Where no rockets fly nor bullets wing,
Our broken brothers let us bring
To the Mansions of the Lord

No more weeping,
No more fight,
No friends bleeding through the night,
Just Devine embrace,
Eternal light,
In the Mansions of the Lord

Where no mothers cry
And no children weep,
We shall stand and guard
Though the angels sleep,
Oh, through the ages let us keep
The Mansions of the Lord

poison pen

May 30th, 2011
2:04 pm

carlosgvv

May 30th, 2011
9:12 am
Peadawg

We haven’t lost anyone in Libya. Yet.

At least not that we know of.

RW-(the original)

May 30th, 2011
3:05 pm

Somebody at the AJC must have a sense of humor. Presumably the National anthem is playing in the picture on the home page. Mullen is saluting, Gates has his hand over his heart and Obama has his teleprompter screen over his.

jt

May 30th, 2011
3:05 pm

Speaking of the above references to “freedom”……………..I don’t know what country ya’ll are talking about.
My three never-served chicken hawk representatives to congress just pasted the Patriot Act extension, and then jump in front of any camera avaiblaible on this solemn day……JERKWads.
(two of them are lawyers.whattaya expect?)
.
Anyhow……………………………these are REAL heros.
A good ole Georgia boy and a New Jersey Yank.(and I use the term “yank” with the UTMOST RESPECT..this time).
One made it home……………..one didn’t……………………………..
Regardless………………these are the kind of men who wouldn’t come home from a war…………don a police costume………..and beat up IHOP women patrons…………(times have changed)…..
.
Glenn Urban Andreotta and Hugh Clowers Thompson…………………SALUTE———-
Our Nation needs more of your kind.

For you VETS out there…………..Can you IMAGINE a Warrent Officer going up against a Commisioned Officer………head to head…..on the Field of Battle?
And can you imagine a frightened E-5 going where he didn’t have to………beyond the call……?

Thompson: Hey listen, hold your fire. I’m going to try to get these people out of this bunker. Just hold your men here.
Brooks: Yeah, we can help you get ‘em out of that bunker—with a hand grenade!
Thompson: Just hold your men here. I think I can do better than that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Thompson,_Jr.

A Great Georgian.
Isackson,Chambliss, and Woodall should be sentenced to polish his tombstone………………..for eternity.(with no water).(or maybe be waterboarded WHILE polishing this man’s tombstone.)

Jackie

May 30th, 2011
3:12 pm

SALUTE to those who have fallen while wearing the military uniform of the United States.
SALUTE to those who have worn the military uniform of the United States and have been injured or captured by any of our enemies.
SALUTE to those who have worn the military uniform of the United States and are alive and well/

Mick

May 30th, 2011
3:47 pm

PJ

He is in the army – artillery. I support him and understand his mindset. Some people are born to be soldiers, thankfully. These younger troops are tough and well trained, they are ready to help relieve those who have seen three or four tours already, as it should be…

Mick

May 30th, 2011
3:48 pm

doom

Thanks for the kind thoughts…

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

May 30th, 2011
3:48 pm

I know most of you have your heart in the right place but remember that today is for those who made the ultimate sacrifice for their country.

There is a separate day for veterans in general.

“Memorial Day is a United States federal holiday observed on the last Monday of May.[1] Formerly known as Decoration Day, which was first recorded to have been observed by Freedmen (freed enslaved southern blacks) in Charleston, South Carolina in 1865, at the Washington Race Course, to remember the fallen Union soldiers of the Civil War. Today, what is now known as Memorial Day, commemorates all U.S. Service Members who died while in military service.[2] The recognition of the fallen victims was then enacted under the name Memorial Day by an organization of Union veterans — the Grand Army of the Republic (GAR)[3] — to honor Union soldiers of the American Civil War.

Over time, it was extended after World War I to honor all Americans who have died in all wars.”

jt

May 30th, 2011
3:49 pm

]

Thompson: What’s going on here, Lieutenant?
Calley: This is my business.
Thompson: What is this? Who are these people?
Calley: Just following orders.
Thompson: Orders? Whose orders?
Calley: Just following…
Thompson: But, these are human beings, unarmed civilians, sir.
Calley: Look Thompson, this is my show. I’m in charge here. It ain’t your concern.
Thompson: Yeah, great job.
Calley: You better get back in that chopper and mind your own business.
Thompson: You ain’t heard the last of this!

The decency of the Individual………………….against the depravity of a product of the State.
.
We decent individuals will stop your corrupt bankster immoral warfare state.
.
One deed at a time.

Laker

May 30th, 2011
4:12 pm

Hats off and gratitude to the military men and women who have served the United States on the field of battle.

Something less than good wishes for the politicians who put them in harms way in a few of the more ill advised foreign misadventures of late. But then Memorial Day is not for honoring politicians.

pogo

May 30th, 2011
4:45 pm

Hats off to our soldiers (and I mean our combat soliders) and may God protect them from our politicians. Our soldiers die meanwhile our politicians campaign. Not quite a fair trade, is it?

PJ

May 30th, 2011
4:47 pm

Mick

I know what you mean. This will be my son’s third tour over seas. They are a hardy bunch and do their country proud. I guess it’s in my son’s blood though being fourth generation military on both sides of his family (which makes me very proud).

USMC

May 30th, 2011
5:00 pm

Very Nice Jay Bookman. I hope you and your family had a wonderful weekend!

Semper Fidelis!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fglarptxQWM

Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)

May 30th, 2011
5:08 pm

It’s wonderful to read the posts on here from those of different political persuasions who all come together on this day as Americans to honor the real hero’s of every war we’ve ever fought and those hero’s are the ones who made the ultimate sacrifice. God Bless America.

USMC

May 30th, 2011
5:17 pm

Sorry for the re-post. But this version of Semper Fidelis is MUCH better:

Semper Fidelis to all of the Jarheads (and Jay) out there; wherever you may be, this video will take you back in time to one of the most Formidable times in your life!
Carry On!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzeqTyO5Mbs&feature=related

MrLiberty

May 30th, 2011
5:43 pm

We lost 55,000 in Vietnam, hundreds in Kosovo, Bosnia, Somalia, Panama, Grenada, several thousand now in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, and the dozens of other places all over the globe where our troops have been sent and yet back here in america we are losing our freedoms every day and have been since our country became an empire back at the end of the 1800’s.

We make the claim all the time that these soldiers are defending our freedoms and yet they clearly are fighting the wrong enemy. The Japanese has no desire to invade the US. Neither did the Nazis. The Koreans certainly didn’t and neither did the Vietnamese. The Serbians, Noriega, the Grenadians, the Somalis, and all the rest of the little country’s governments and soldiers never had any desire to destroy our freedoms or invade and conquer our country. The Afghanis certainly didn’t want to invade our country. Even Osama bin Laden has never been charged with 9-11 and not a single one of the alleged hijackers came from Afghanistan. We certainly know that there were no WMDs in Iraq, they never would have been pointed at us anyway, and Saddam had been our friend. He certainly was in no position to destroy our freedom, the same with the Pakistanis.

The only group who has ever been in a position to destroy our freedoms is the same group that is supposed to be protecting them. It is the same group that has been destroying them for the past 100+ years, and coincidentally it is the same group that has sent our soldiers far away to foreign lands supposedly to protect our freedoms. The federal government.

One has to wonder if our soldiers are being sent away to fight people who have no ability to threaten our country or our freedoms to keep them from being around to see the destruction of liberty that happens whenever they are away. Maybe its time to look inward this memorial day and ask who is really protecting our freedoms and what the role of our military really should be. Maybe they would be of better service home in america defending america instead of extending the boundaries of the american empire and the profits of the military industrial complex. What a truly tragic loss that so many have died and yet american freedoms are fewer than they have ever been in our history and our constitution is ignored by virtually every level of government at almost every opportunity.

Fred

May 30th, 2011
5:47 pm

RW-(the original)

May 30th, 2011
11:41 am

Frankly I don’t see why we limit Memorial Day to memorializing only military members who died in wars. Civilian deaths on 9/11 were every bit in the same classification of Americans who died in a war, just one we didn’t enter into freely.

====================

Well the families of those “victims” got over 6 BILLION DOLLARS in payouts. The families of dead soldiers get nothing unless they bought that GI insurance in which case they get the 10 grand payoff.

There is a HUGE difference……..

godless heathen

May 30th, 2011
6:11 pm

I wrote this in 2001. Thanks to all that served and sacrificed.

I Didn’t Know Allan Lee Schmidt
2001

I didn’t know Allan Lee Schmidt. I don’t know if he went by Allan or by Lee. I will probably never know anyone that knew Allan. He died when I was only 13 years old, on November 6, 1968. That was a Wednesday, three weeks and a day before Thanksgiving. On that day I would have been “coming of age” in Mrs. _________’s eighth grade class.

There were 7 or 8 of us in Mrs_____________ 8th grade class, and probably 8 or 9 other kids in her 7th grade class that shared our classroom at _________ Elementary School in _______, Georgia. As an 8th grader, the top grade in our school, I was quite full of myself, and oblivious to death and war outside of the history books.

I recall studying arithmetic, geography, history, and social studies in those days, and I recall us receiving a newsletter every week or two called “Current Events”. I recall The Vietnam War as the lead story on the NBC News that religiously aired in our home at 7PM Eastern every night, but Vietnam was geographically a half a world away from _______, Georgia and a couple of universes away from the life of a pubescent boy who had just graduated from playing Army with sticks in the playground, imitating the TV show Combat. At that time, my female classmates were much more enthralling than our country’s battle against the spread of world communism.

So why tonight am I writing about Allan Lee Schmidt? I was Internet surfing and found a web site that listed the names on The Vietnam Memorial (The Wall) in D.C. I just clicked on a name and read a very brief, government-issue record of his life and service. (Last name: SCHMIDT, First name: ALLAN LEE)

Allan Lee (I bet his mother called him Allan Lee from time to time.) lived in Tipton, Iowa, born August 12, 1948, seven years before I was born, and one day short of four years before my older brother entered the world. (Home of Record (official): TIPTON, State (official): IA, Date of Birth: THURSDAY, AUGUST 12, 1948, Sex:MALE, Race: CAUCASION, Marital Status: SINGLE)

I looked up Tipton, IA on the MapQuest Internet site. Tipton is located at the intersection of the dead north-south running IA Route 38 and the dead east-west running IA Route 130, about halfway between Iowa City and Moline, what we know today as “fly-over country”. How strange that term would sound to the rising man of 20 who got off a plane in South Vietnam on October 9, 1968.

I can speculate that Allan grew up on a corn farm near Tipton, his father a hardworking WWII veteran, but I don’t really know. For all I know his father could have been the town drunk and Allan got himself drafted as an alternative to a life of crime – but I doubt it.

Allan’s official record lists his “Component” as Selective Service. I think that means that he was chosen by the not-so-selective, Selective Service. In other words, he got drafted. He could have avoided this honor, as many did, but maybe an “honorable” method of escaping The Draft (such as College) was not available. Possibly Allan welcomed this opportunity to get out of Tipton and to see the world. (Component: SELECTIVE SERVICE, Pay grade: E3, MOS (Military Occupational Specialty code): 11B10, Major Organization: 1st CAVALRY DIV))

While he traveled farther from his home than I ever have or ever will, Allan didn’t get to see much of the world. His “tour” of Vietnam was brief. (Start of tour: WEDNESDAY OCTOBER 9, 1968). By Wednesday, November 6th, 1968, Allan was dead. (Date of Casualty: WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 6th, 1968 Casualty type: (A2) HOSTILE, DIED OF WOUNDS. Reason: GUN, SMALL ARMS FIRE (GROUND CASUALTY)).

Twenty eight days in country. Nine months short of his 21st birthday.

Allan made the ultimate sacrifice for his country. By some rationalization he must have made the life of that boy in Mrs. __________ 8th grade class better. Maybe the best thing Allan did for me was that by reading stark words on a computer monitor in 2001, I realize how fortunate I have been.

Thank you Allan Lee Schmidt. I apologize for not thinking about you in 1968, but I thought about you a lot tonight.

— General / Personal —
Last name: SCHMIDT
First name: ALLAN LEE
Home of Record (official): TIPTON
State (official): IA
Date of Birth: Thursday, August 12, 1948
Sex: Male
Race: Caucasian
Marital Status: Single
— Military —
Branch: Army
Rank: PFC
Serial Number: 54931254
Component: Selective Service
Pay grade: E3
MOS (Military Occupational Specialty code): 11B10
Major Organization: 1st Cavalry Div
— Action —
Start of Tour: Wednesday, October 9, 1968
Date of Casualty: Wednesday, November 6, 1968
Age at time of loss: 20
Casualty type: (A2) Hostile, died of wounds
Reason: Gun, small arms fire (Ground casualty)
Country: South VietNam
Province: Tay Ninh
The Wall: Panel 39W – Row 029

midtownguy

May 30th, 2011
6:30 pm

My cousin “died in Vietnam” just nine months ago, from a brain tumor caused by exposure to Agent Orange. I feel like he died in service to his country just the same as if he had stepped on a land mine. God bless them all.

Jay

May 30th, 2011
6:30 pm

Midtown, they ought to put his name on the memorial. They add a few every year, you know.

Soothsayer

May 30th, 2011
6:35 pm

“One has to wonder if our soldiers are being sent away to fight people who have no ability to threaten our country or our freedoms to keep them from being around to see the destruction of liberty that happens whenever they are away. Maybe its time to look inward this memorial day and ask who is really protecting our freedoms and what the role of our military really should be. Maybe they would be of better service home in america defending america instead of extending the boundaries of the american empire and the profits of the military industrial complex. What a truly tragic loss that so many have died and yet american freedoms are fewer than they have ever been in our history and our constitution is ignored by virtually every level of government at almost every opportunity.”

What a perfect sentiment on this Memorial Day! Maybe it’s time we looked closer at the role of our military in fighting “wars of Empire” and whether or not these men died in vain.

Soothsayer

May 30th, 2011
6:38 pm

Honu

May 30th, 2011
6:45 pm

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midtownguy

May 30th, 2011
6:54 pm

Thank you, Jay. I am going to look into that. It would mean a great deal to his widow and daughter.

I go to DC for work about once a year. I always visit the wall. I always tell myself I am not going to cry this time. I always do. If you are of our generation and can stare at that black wall full of names without shedding a tear, then you have no soul.

What is so moving about the wall to me is the equality of it. It gives no rank, no religion, no age, no gender, no race. It makes no distinction between those who volunteered and those who were drafted. Just the name. All are equal in that they all gave all.

Fred

May 30th, 2011
7:02 pm

There is no statistical proof that agent orange has caused a single case of cancer or caused a single death. I know this because a former neighbor of mine is is a PhD (microbiologist) at the CDC and he told me that, said it was a myth. He also told me that the Gov’t should have never caved and paid anyone for it. He also told me that Gulf War syndrome (from the first Gulf War) is a myth and doesn’t exist. I asked him why then afterwards I suddenly got skin rashes, experienced short term memory loss, chronic fatigue, muscle pain, respiratory problems, ect………… Co-incidence he said. He implied I had ALWAYS had these things, I was just too stupid to know it until now………

Gotta love “scientists” and their statistical data……………

God Bless your cousin midtownguy.

Soothsayer

May 30th, 2011
7:02 pm

That’s OK, Jay. Censor my comments if you must!

Paulo977

May 30th, 2011
7:04 pm

Gary Brumback

May 30th, 2011
7:26 pm

In memory of the war dead. In empathy with the war disabled. In revulsion of warring regimes. Printed on every piece of money and on every schoolhouse door should be this declaration: No more money or lives lost to war.
Gary Brumback
http://www.democracypowernow.com

Good little liberal

May 30th, 2011
7:34 pm

Mary Elizabeth

Thanks for the Ray Charles tune.

And thanks, Dad. I’m thinking about you today.

Fred

May 30th, 2011
7:37 pm

Since so many seem to think only Viet Nam vets died for our Country, I thought of this song. I love it dearly. There is a kid leaving today that is applies to………

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3b1AQFsPcc

Guthrie

May 30th, 2011
7:53 pm

MrLiberty @ 5:43pm, excellent post. You pretty much nailed it brother.

Dudley (walmart is the root of all evil)

May 30th, 2011
7:54 pm

Thanks to all veterans who gave all. You are appreciated and remembered.

Normal

May 30th, 2011
8:18 pm

Just got back from Warm Springs and a visit at the Little White House. Great place! Hard to believe that a President of The United States lived there and died there. The place is wonderful…then we had home made peach ice cream…yummy. This weekend will go down as one of my greatest.

Normal

May 30th, 2011
8:22 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsOsdGtBBTg&feature=related

In Flanders Fields

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

- Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae, MD (1872-1918)Canadian Army

Jay

May 30th, 2011
8:40 pm

Sooth, don’t be so quick to claim victimhood. In fact, I hate to spoil your drama, but you’ve been around long enough to know that any post with more than two links gets bounced automatically as spam.

Real Scooter

May 30th, 2011
8:55 pm

This all makes me want to cry. That’s all i’ve got to say.

Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)

May 30th, 2011
8:58 pm

God Bless Cpl. Brett Lundstrom and the Lakota, Oglala Sioux for our Brother in Arms. R.I.P.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX2mIyLRx7U

Curious Observer

May 30th, 2011
9:10 pm

In memory of General Merritt Edson, USMC, Medal of Honor at Bloody Ridge, later Edson’s Ridge, Guadacanal. You didn’t die then, but there’s no doubt the seeds were planted as you fought Truman’s plan to eliminate the Marine Corps after the war. It must have been cold and lonely in that garage as you inhaled the carbon monoxide in Vermont. I think of you every Memorial Day.

Bud Wiser

May 30th, 2011
9:10 pm

This is Memorial Day folks, a day for remembrance for the honored dead that paid the ultimate price with their lives in wars around the globe, protecting our freedom and right to exist as we do.

It is NOT a day for whining and/or politicizing about our current and past military adventures, right or wrong, Carlos, so stuff it.

You and your ilk haven’t a clue what this day is all about, do you?

Kamchak

May 30th, 2011
9:18 pm

Don’t cry over spilled ilk.

Mary Elizabeth

May 30th, 2011
9:29 pm

Good little liberal and SOUTHERN ATL -

Thank you, both, for your separate comments. And GLL, I must confess, SOUTHERN ATL posted the Ray Charles’ song first – first entry of the day! :-)

Recon – Your sentiments at 5:08 p.m., I believe, have been felt by all today. Thank you for your words.

MrLiberty

May 30th, 2011
9:45 pm

Bud Wiser – If the day meant to honor all those who died is not the day, then when is the day? Today is the day we are all supposed to focus on those dead and what they died for. If there is a serious disagreement over what exactly they died for, whether it was what they thought they were dying for, whether their deaths did any good, whether the policy that brought about their deaths was right or not, etc. this certainly seems like the right day to discuss it. There are plenty of folks in this country who would actually like to work towards a list of dead US soldiers that doesn’t continue to grow year after miserable year simply because we have to honor the ones who just died by throwing more bodies onto the machinery of endless war.

Hats off to everyone who actually gave some real thought today to what our government’s committment to endless war for the sake of endless war really means to our liberties, our freedom, and the lives of those who joined to military in hopes of actually defending this country.

Real Scooter

May 30th, 2011
9:49 pm

Don’t cry over spilled ilk

Maybe I missed something Kamchak but that sounded very disrespectful. I hope I am wrong.
I’ll cry if I want to.

Paulo977

May 30th, 2011
9:50 pm

Kamchak

May 30th, 2011
10:23 pm

Real Scooter

I wasn’t mocking you.

I was mocking the poster at 9:10 that played the ilk card.

@@

May 30th, 2011
10:35 pm

DAMMIT!

Who steals American flags?

We removed the previous one (a bit faded) to put a new bright one out. Somebody stole it. It’s the third flag we’ve had stolen.

On Memorial Day!!!???!!!

FINE! I can only hope they wanted to display it on their property.

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

May 30th, 2011
10:51 pm

Headline: “Egyptian general: ‘Virginity checks’ done on protesters”

A senior Egyptian general admits that “virginity checks” were performed on women arrested at a demonstration this spring, the first such admission after previous denials.”

Well, ……………………. there you go.

TnGelding

May 31st, 2011
8:12 am

Great concert last night from the Capitol. America the beautiful, indeed. If only we could live up to such hype.