‘Freedom-loving’ NRA dictates what doctors can say to patients

We’ve heard a lot of rhetoric the last couple of years about the importance of keeping government out of the sacred, private relationship between doctors and their patients.

It was all a bunch of bull-oney.

For instance, the Florida Legislature has now passed a bill that makes it illegal for doctors to ask patients whether they have guns in their home and whether those guns are stored correctly to keep them out of the hands of children. It’s a question that many pediatricians ask as part of their standard spiel, along with ensuring that poisons and medicines are kept out of children’s reach and that swimming pools are monitored.

As Dr. Paul Robinson, a specialist in adolescent medicine, testified in vain to a Florida Senate committee:

“What if I have an adolescent who’s been bullied, who’s not suicidal? I don’t think, under the current bill, I’m entitled to ask him if there’s a gun in the home, or if he’s carried a gun to school, or if he’s thinking of harming someone else with a gun.”

Asking such questions would be against the law.

If you happen to believe that a doctor should not ask such questions, fine. You have the right to tell the physician that it’s none of his or her business. You have the right to change doctors. But you cannot logically argue that it is government’s place to dictate what can and cannot be said between patient and doctor. The fact that such gross intrusions into rights of privacy and free speech come from the allegedly small-government, pro-liberty right isn’t at all surprising.

And then there’s Texas. This week, Gov. Rick Perry signed a bill into law that requires women seeking an abortion to first undergo a sonogram. The attending physician is required by law to “describe the fetus, noting the size and condition of limbs and organs.” In addition, the patient must then wait 24 hours after the sonogram is performed before undergoing the abortion. As one person noted, the bill does everything but require the woman to give the fetus a name and schedule its funeral.

“Indeed, this bill is designed to shame women, as if we are daft creatures unable to make personal, private medical decisions without the paternalistic oversight of legislators,” the head of a Texas pro-choice group noted.

Again, these are allegedly small-government conservatives, conservatives dedicated to keeping government out of our private affairs, especially in relationships such as those between a doctor and patient, dictating what must be said and what must not be said in the privacy of a doctor’s office.

– Jay Bookman

617 comments Add your comment

jewcowboy

May 26th, 2011
2:56 pm

Republicans want gov’t out of private lives…unless it fits into their ideology.

@@

May 26th, 2011
3:01 pm

Even if the patient says it’s “none of your business”, how will the doctor respond to that answer. One could say it’s like pleading the fifth.

“Indeed, this bill is designed to shame women, as if we are daft creatures unable to make personal, private medical decisions without the paternalistic oversight of legislators,” the head of a Texas pro-choice group noted.

Just as the patient can refuse to answer, so too can the woman refuse the shame.

Southern DisComfort

May 26th, 2011
3:02 pm

Bishop Eddie Long said he was going to fight in Court to clear his name.
Instead, he reached a Settlement because he is guilty of sexual misconduct.

Doggone/GA

May 26th, 2011
3:03 pm

“Republicans want gov’t out of private lives”

Not exactly. They want government out of THEIR lives. Yours and mine? Not so much.

Hillbilly D

May 26th, 2011
3:03 pm

For instance, the Florida Legislature has now passed a bill that makes it illegal for doctors to ask patients whether they have guns in their home and whether those guns are stored correctly to keep them out of the hands of children. It’s a question that many pediatricians ask as part of their standard spiel, along with ensuring that poisons and medicines are kept out of children’s reach and that swimming pools are monitored.

It’s really none of the doctor’s business. I wouldn’t pass a law, though, I’d just cuss him out and find another doctor.

Adam

May 26th, 2011
3:04 pm

I hate hate HATE those sonogram bills. Louisiana passed one, and continually pushes the abortion-ban and show-me-your-birth-certificate agenda. Florida is doing similar things.

So I have a question for you guys who voted Republican in 2010: Still think there’s no national push here?

Hillbilly D

May 26th, 2011
3:04 pm

My first post on this thread and it’s too fast.

Peadawg

May 26th, 2011
3:06 pm

“But you cannot logically argue that it is government’s place to dictate what can and cannot be said between patient and doctor.” – Says someone who supports a 15 person panel of “experts” deciding what treatmet someone can receive. Save it, Jay.

“And then there’s Texas. This week, Gov. Rick Perry signed a bill into law that requires women seeking an abortion to first undergo a sonogram. The attending physician is required by law to “describe the fetus, noting the size and condition of limbs and organs.” In addition, the patient must then wait 24 hours after the sonogram is performed before undergoing the abortion. As one person noted, the bill does everything but require the woman to give the fetus a name and schedule its funeral.

“Indeed, this bill is designed to shame women, as if we are daft creatures unable to make personal, private medical decisions without the paternalistic oversight of legislators,” the head of a Texas pro-choice group noted.” – Ouch. I like this one! Send the women on a guilt trip!!!

@@

May 26th, 2011
3:06 pm

Come to think of it, the “Do you store your guns correctly?” would imply that parents are daft creatures unable to make personal, private decisions without paternalistic oversight of doctors.

Peadawg

May 26th, 2011
3:06 pm

Let me add the experts are appointed by Congress/President. I’m not talking about insurance companies.

jt

May 26th, 2011
3:07 pm

.

“Again, these are allegedly small-government conservatives, ”

Key word being “alledgedly”…………………………….
.
Only Ron Paul has the answer…………………………..GET government OUT of the medical field……………………ENTIRELY..
.
But then again……….most R&D voters are terrified of walking marijuana cigarettes.

Adam

May 26th, 2011
3:07 pm

Did anyone else notice the headline lede change? :D

Tom Middleton

May 26th, 2011
3:07 pm

Sure, they want government out of our private affairs … AS LONG AS THEY GET TO CALL THE SHOTS. What this has to do with democracy, I don’t know, except to say that IT ISN’T!

Doggone/GA

May 26th, 2011
3:07 pm

“Did anyone else notice the headline lede change?”

Yep!

Adam

May 26th, 2011
3:08 pm

Doggone: Not exactly. They want government out of THEIR lives. Yours and mine? Not so much.

BINGO

Adam

May 26th, 2011
3:08 pm

Doctor: Do you store your guns correctly?

Person who doesn’t but thinks he does: Of course I do!

*End of discussion*

BADA BING

May 26th, 2011
3:09 pm

Breaking news at the top of this page……….Bishop Long and plantiffs reach an agreement……Let me guess, “I’ll show you mine if you show me yours”.

Thulsa Doom

May 26th, 2011
3:09 pm

Republicans want gov’t out of private lives…unless it fits into their ideology.

Not intended to be a factual statement

Yahtzee

May 26th, 2011
3:10 pm

I think the sonogram bill is ridiculous. All that does is cause the cost of healthcare to increase.

The gun issue is also ridiculous. Just tell the doctor its none of their business, end of discussion.

jm

May 26th, 2011
3:10 pm

Jay 2:48 (from downstairs) – JPM’s own title (they were the author – Bosch, to the PDF which I obviously can’t link to) was: maybe the biggest estimation miss ever

Reading the NY Times article now.

Mick

May 26th, 2011
3:10 pm

The sunshine state, home of rick “the disaster” scott, do we know how to write and elect whoppers when it comes to gov’t or not? On the bright side, we do however have excellent winter weather…

josef nix

May 26th, 2011
3:10 pm

D*mn…abortion and guns in the same thread…! Hot times in the old town tonight…looks like the Imam is just tryin to stir up a stink… :-)

But the doctor and the question? My own response would be, “why do you want to know?” And it would depend on the doctor…a pediatrician? Perhaps…especially if he were to say he was worried about my child possibly having suicidal/murderous inclinations…my shrink (that is if I had one)? I certainly hope s/he would!

But a law? Oy….

Doggone/GA

May 26th, 2011
3:11 pm

“But a law?”

Well, there’s this side of it too, though: this law protects the Doctor from being sued if that kid kills his tormentors with that gun. The parents won’t be able to claim the Doctor should have told them he might do something like that. Personally, if I was a Doctor I could get around such a law easily – by not framing it as a sentence: “Your child is possibly capable of attacking his tormentors, or committing suicide. If you own guns I suggest you ensure they are safely stored” – and let it go at that.

jm

May 26th, 2011
3:12 pm

On topic, I think these bills are ridiculous.

Peadawg

May 26th, 2011
3:12 pm

“Republicans want gov’t out of private lives…unless it fits into their ideology.”

Sounds like that goes for the Democrats on here. They should all over this like a fat kid on a cupcake. But b/c it was the GOP that did this….OH NO IT’S BAD!!!

jm

May 26th, 2011
3:12 pm

Oh, and Jay, BTW, I would agree that banks suck at their job too. 30 years of federal reserve “bailouts” through drastically lower rates at the turn of every recession will do that.

Adam

May 26th, 2011
3:13 pm

jm @ 3:12: Agreed.

Adam

May 26th, 2011
3:14 pm

Peadawg: Show me legislation or even proposed legislation that tells people what they can and cannot eat. Adults I mean. School lunches don’t count because, seriously, like a kid is gonna know how to eat healthy in the first place…

Peadawg

May 26th, 2011
3:14 pm

“On topic, I think these bills are ridiculous.” – The gun question bill is retarded…don’t get the point of it. But the guilt trip abortion bill is pretty nice.

Mick

May 26th, 2011
3:15 pm

**“What if I have an adolescent who’s been bullied, who’s not suicidal? I don’t think, under the current bill, I’m entitled to ask him if there’s a gun in the home, or if he’s carried a gun to school, or if he’s thinking of harming someone else with a gun.”**

In that case, the doctor would be duty bound to ask the parent if the child has access to any weapons that may harm himself or others, the parent should be informed about this child’s emotional state…

Adam

May 26th, 2011
3:15 pm

Peadawg: The guilt trip abortion bill is nonsense, and will cost the taxpayers even more money to pay for the sonograms. And it won’t reduce the number of abortions anyway.

I can’t wait for the shocked look on the legislators faces when they realize that last part.

Doggone/GA

May 26th, 2011
3:16 pm

oops! “by not framing it as a sentence” should be “by not framing it as a QUESTION”

Jay

May 26th, 2011
3:16 pm

Taxpayers don’t pay the sonograms.

BADA BING

May 26th, 2011
3:17 pm

Do you store your guns correctly? Yes, I always wipe the blood off and apply WD/40.

josef nix

May 26th, 2011
3:17 pm

Doggone

I can go beyond the hypothetical with this. Guns in the home are very much at issue in my dispatch of my daily duties. When and where I find it necessary to inquire is entirely relative to the situation. Again, confidentiality is at issue, but in some cases it is germane and of central importance. In others it is none of my business. I don’t need a law, but I do need common sense and a trust that a H-gher P-wer will guide me…

Jay

May 26th, 2011
3:18 pm

Right, jm. Because before the Depression came along, bringing regulation in its wake, banks never failed and people never lost their entire savings.

Peadawg

May 26th, 2011
3:19 pm

“Show me legislation or even proposed legislation that tells people what they can and cannot eat. Adults I mean” – I’m not sure of one. Why do you ask?

jewcowboy

May 26th, 2011
3:19 pm

@@,

“would imply that parents are daft creatures unable to make personal, ”

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/state/four-injured-after-gun-accidentally-discharges-in-orlando-1496589.html?sort=desc

And your point is?

BADA BING

May 26th, 2011
3:19 pm

Does he ask…..Do you store ropes and belts correctly? Do you store your kitchen knives correctly? Do you store dangerous household chemicals correctly? Do you keep your kids away from the windows of tall buildings? Do you keep your kids off high bridges? Do you store prescription medicines correctly? Does he just ask about guns?

Hillbilly D

May 26th, 2011
3:21 pm

My $.02 is that the Meltdown of 2008 is a lot more like the Panic of 1907, than the Great Depression of the 1930’s. That’s just me talkin’, though.

Bosch

May 26th, 2011
3:21 pm

“But the guilt trip abortion bill is pretty nice.”

Says the human who is biologically incapable of ever giving birth.

Peadawg

May 26th, 2011
3:21 pm

“Says the human who is biologically incapable of ever giving birth.” – Don’t want to be sent on a guilt trip by doctor? Don’t have the abortion. It’s your CHOICE. :)

poison pen

May 26th, 2011
3:21 pm

Jay

May 26th, 2011
3:16 pm
Taxpayers don’t pay the sonograms.

Then what good is Obamacare?????????????

Normal

May 26th, 2011
3:22 pm

How are all y’all?

I drop in to see “wutsup” and I find guns and abortions on the table.

After reading up on the NY26 election, I’m not sure I get the GOP anymore.

Gun rights?, OK, I get it, you want them, you should have them, @nd Amendment and all that, but I’ve never considered guns pro life.

Then the GOP wants to save fetuses but also wants to put the kibosh on Medicare and screw the elderly (I take that personally).

I will be more impressed with the GOP when they get cracking on things for the living…like more jobs.

They are torturing women with insanely sadistic rules and they are using their guns to shoot themmselves in the foot. 2012 is going to be fun…

@@

May 26th, 2011
3:24 pm

The American Academy of Pediatricians has stated that:

the absence of guns from children’s homes and communities is the most reliable and effective measure to prevent firearm-related injuries in children and adolescents. A number of specific measures are supported to reduce the destructive effects of guns in the lives of children and adolescents, including the regulation of the manufacture, sale, purchase, ownership, and use of firearms; a ban on handguns and semiautomatic assault weapons; and expanded regulations of handguns for civilian use. In addition, this statement reviews recent data, trends, prevention, and intervention strategies of the past 5 years.

I should’ve known that, but didn’t until now.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

May 26th, 2011
3:24 pm

Well, I think Drs. should butt out of our private life. What business they got asking how I store my anti-tank gun and the two machine guns I use for hunting and self-defense? They don’t fit in one of those neat little gun cases. I figure if a kid crawls under my bed when he’s got no right to be there and then shoots hisself with a loaded weapon, it’s the kid’s fault. I ain’t keeping weapons without ammo in them. I mean, if a pair of thugs breaks in to my trailer I don’t intend to defend myself just with what comes out of my zipper.

But the sonogram bill is a real winner. Only it don’t go far enough. I think the woman should have to name it right there and buy teeny tiny diapers to fit it, etc. That will keep them from wanting a abortion. Just don’t expect me to support the kid when it’s born. I mean, my business is making sure women have their babys. I don’t want nothing to do with paying for food and clothes and stuff like that for them.

Things is going the right way for us down here in the South. Now we need to work harder on laws about gays and being nekkid and other things that are against the Bible.

Have a good p.m. everybody.

Doggone/GA

May 26th, 2011
3:24 pm

“Says the human who is biologically incapable of ever giving birth”

I don’t know who originally said this (or even if it’s an exactly accurate quote) – but I always find it amusing in whatever version I hear it: If men had to give birth, abortions would be free, fast, and available on every street corner

Bosch

May 26th, 2011
3:25 pm

Normal! Hi ya! How ya been? I was thinking about you this morning — I wrote something about how puppy ears were the best and I thought “If Normal is around he’ll say something like, ‘yeah! they are best with ketchup!”

:)

Thulsa Doom

May 26th, 2011
3:27 pm

Kind of reminds me of all those liberal efforts to regulate what we eat and drink- The food police.

And then all of their efforts to regulate free speech on college campuses- The speech police.

They then got the San Francisco which Jay blogged about wanting to pass a law making it illegal to circumcise all newborn male babies born in SF. Why and where did this come from?- Because gays in SF consider an uncircumcised penis to be a status symbol in their community- so hence of course they want to force their culture on everyone else.

We’ll just call them the SF circumcision police.

Seems the libs got their own little habit of getting into people’s lives and telling people what they can and can’t do.

Peadawg

May 26th, 2011
3:27 pm

“I will be more impressed with the GOP when they get cracking on things for the living…like more jobs.” – If only Obama and the Democrat controlled House/Senate would have been doing that the entire time….

Jay

May 26th, 2011
3:27 pm

Anybody experience time-shifting in last hour or so?

Kamchak

May 26th, 2011
3:27 pm

Greetings and salutations, Normal.

Real Scooter

May 26th, 2011
3:28 pm

Peadawg

May 26th, 2011
3:14 pm

I think I can give you an idea about the point of the law.(though I don’t agree with it)
The gun control advocates are trying to get a law that REQUIRES docs to ask about guns and then report it to the government.

@@

May 26th, 2011
3:28 pm

BADA makes a valid point at 3:19. I dare say there’s a motive behind the “gun” question.

Normal

May 26th, 2011
3:29 pm

Bosch,
“‘yeah! they are best with ketchup!”

Actually they do make a good tortilla….

It’s not been too happy in Normalville these days. Old Normal
has been diagnosed with Angina, but it’s controllable but the real
kicker is that my Mom’s cancer has come back. It’s still anybodies guess as to how far along or how bad yet. We will find out around the 7th, I think. Oh well, I will deal with it, wimp that I am… ;)

Bosch

May 26th, 2011
3:30 pm

Shedd

May 26th, 2011
3:30 pm

Ridiculous. Doctors should be free to ask the questions that they think are helpful.

josef nix

May 26th, 2011
3:30 pm

Thulsa

Gays consider an uncircumcised penis a status symbol? Do tell…I guess I’m just not getting our and about enough…

Thulsa Doom

May 26th, 2011
3:30 pm

Of course they do. But do they build a platform on small, less intrusive gov’t?- jewcowboy

I’ll cede you that jewcowboy- Repubs got no business putting these things in there.

The Dems are the ones that build a platform on large, very intrusive govt. Which makes one wonder why they would oppose even more govt intrusion? Oh that’s right. Because it doesn’t fit their ideology. Seems like I even heard that once before today.

Doggone/GA

May 26th, 2011
3:30 pm

“The gun control advocates are trying to get a law that REQUIRES docs ”

Got a link to that?

jewcowboy

May 26th, 2011
3:30 pm

“Seems the libs got their own little habit of getting into people’s lives and telling people what they can and can’t do.”

Of course they do. But do they build a platform on small, less intrusive gov’t?

poison pen

May 26th, 2011
3:31 pm

Jay

May 26th, 2011
3:27 pm
Anybody experience time-shifting in last hour or so?

No, just shape shifting, sorry, couldn’t resist.

Kamchak

May 26th, 2011
3:31 pm

Anybody experience time-shifting in last hour or so?

Not exactly time shifting, but my 3:27 used to be on page one.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

May 26th, 2011
3:32 pm

Anybody experience time-shifting in last hour or so?

No, weirder than that. I read Bookman’s question about time-shifting and Kamchak’s greeting to Normal at the bottom of the 1st page. Then I clicked to go to the second page and the same two posts were at the top of it.

The AJC better work on getting their IT folks off of the mind drugs.

Bosch

May 26th, 2011
3:32 pm

“If men had to give birth, abortions would be free, fast, and available on every street corner”

Doggone, you know it!

:)

Peadawg

May 26th, 2011
3:33 pm

Yahtzee

May 26th, 2011
3:33 pm

So, the Senate unanimously rejected Obama’s version of the budget 0-97…bi-partisanship?

BADA BING

May 26th, 2011
3:34 pm

Yes the shifting is occuring regularly. All day.

Normal

May 26th, 2011
3:36 pm

Hi Kam,
All’s well with you I hope?

Peadawg,
you know better than that. The Democrats in the House can’t stop the filibuster, now can they?

Normal

May 26th, 2011
3:38 pm

“Gays consider an uncircumcised penis a status symbol?”

I wouldn’t know, but That is one other thing my parents did against my will… :)

jm

May 26th, 2011
3:38 pm

Jay 3:18 – “Because before the Depression came along, bringing regulation in its wake, banks never failed and people never lost their entire savings.”

Um, I never said anything close to that….. what I said had nothing to do with regulation. I think prudent bank regulation is a necessity. The government doesn’t do it very well, but its a necessity.

Kamchak

May 26th, 2011
3:38 pm

Normal

Put 5 rows of seeds in the ground yesterday and praying for rain.

josef nix

May 26th, 2011
3:41 pm

NORM

Sorry to hear about your Mom and wishing for her the best. Your angina? Hey, deal with it, Bubba… :-)

jewcowboy

May 26th, 2011
3:42 pm

Thulsa Doom,

“Which makes one wonder why they would oppose even more govt intrusion? ”

Maybe they are too busy coveting un-cut phallus’s.

Normal

May 26th, 2011
3:42 pm

Kam,
How long are the rows and what of? We are getting spit on here as we
speak. I’m planting clover this year, the deer requested it.

Bosch

May 26th, 2011
3:42 pm

Jay, I take that back, I think there is some jumping going on.

Normal — I didn’t see your post to me, sorry — sorry to hear about your mom and your vagina.

Real Scooter

May 26th, 2011
3:42 pm

Doggone/GA

May 26th, 2011
3:30 pm

No, I don’t have a link Doggone. I’m trying though. Sorry,but I’m not very computer savvy.

Bosch

May 26th, 2011
3:43 pm

Kamchak,

I think you are going to get the rain. Plus, I did a naked seed dance last night, so things are definitely in your favor.

Normal

May 26th, 2011
3:43 pm

Yeah Josef,
I figured you would give me some sage advice… :D

josef nix

May 26th, 2011
3:43 pm

K’chak

Planning a trip to Innisfree? :-)

BADA BING

May 26th, 2011
3:44 pm

No circumcision in SF? They need to get a grip. Where are their heads at? Are they that thin-skinned?

jewcowboy

May 26th, 2011
3:44 pm

“Old Normal has been diagnosed with Angina”

I hope I never get diagnosed with an angina. I’d hate to lose my status symbol.

Peadawg

May 26th, 2011
3:45 pm

“The Democrats in the House can’t stop the filibuster, now can they?” – They haven’t been able to stop is since 2006?

N-GA

May 26th, 2011
3:45 pm

I suspect when Texas women travel elsewhere for an abortion, Texas lawmakers will pass a law making that more difficult if not illegal.

josef nix

May 26th, 2011
3:46 pm

BADA

Good one!!! :-)

Normal…

Hey, it ain’t no fun, for sure…got you on nitro?

jewcowboy

May 26th, 2011
3:47 pm

Bosch @ 3.42,

:shock:

Normal

May 26th, 2011
3:47 pm

OK JewCowboy,

That got me laughing…

Bosch

May 26th, 2011
3:47 pm

jewcowboy,

hehehehehe. I wondered if anyone would see that. :)

Thulsa Doom

May 26th, 2011
3:48 pm

Yahtzee

May 26th, 2011
3:33 pm

So, the Senate unanimously rejected Obama’s version of the budget 0-97…bi-partisanship?

Yahtzee,

Come on now. We all know this vote will all be blamed on those racist, anti Obama, right wing republican bigots.

Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)

May 26th, 2011
3:48 pm

An employer can’t ask about ones sexual orientation, religious beliefs or political persuasion on a job application, because those are intrusive as well as irrelevant questions. Same is true for a pediatrician asking about gun ownership. While the state of Texas is requiring a woman to have sonar prior to an abortion procedure ensures that the woman fully understands that a life is being extinguished should she proceed with her abortion. That understanding certainly is a relevant consideration. Of course gun control and abortion are extremely important to the far-left, so they’ll attack any law that they feel is threatening to their love for abortion and hatred toward gun ownership. They have no problem with laws or government regulations that forces their ideology on those who believe differently. Typical left wing hypocrisy.

BADA BING

May 26th, 2011
3:49 pm

Cowboy, that one reminds me of this one…….Men can take Midol, but it just doesn’t know where to go!

Kamchak

May 26th, 2011
3:49 pm

Normal

A pace or so longer than 50 ft.

Two rows of green beans, three rows of crowder peas.

And six tomato plants put in the ground last week that I’ve been totin’ water in jugs to keep from drying slap up.

Normal

May 26th, 2011
3:50 pm

Josef,
Not nitro, but a drug called norvasc. My angina is stress and exertion related (boy, I’m gonna use that one when it comes to yard work!), and very controllable. Do you take nitro?

stands for decibels

May 26th, 2011
3:50 pm

While the state of Texas is requiring a woman to have sonar prior to an abortion procedure ensures that the woman fully understands that a life is being extinguished should she proceed with her abortion.

becuz wimmenz iz stoopit.

Thulsa Doom

May 26th, 2011
3:51 pm

BADA BING

May 26th, 2011
3:44 pm

No circumcision in SF? They need to get a grip. Where are their heads at? Are they that thin-skinned?

Bada Bing,

Always with the refreshing one liners. But on a more serious note it the impetus behind this out of left field shall we say law to ban circumcision is the gay fascination with the uncut, real deal.
What was that the libs were saying about intrusive govt?

Jay

May 26th, 2011
3:51 pm

Recon, I’d never had taken you for a yoga practitioner.

But that’s the only possible explanation for your ability to twist and contort to such a remarkable degree. I think you have a future at Cirque de Soleil.

Peadawg

May 26th, 2011
3:51 pm

“Recon, I’d never had taken you for a yoga practitioner.

But that’s the only possible explanation for your ability to twist and contort to such a remarkable degree. I think you have a future at Cirque de Soleil.”

OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll:

jm

May 26th, 2011
3:52 pm

Jay, busy news day for you. You’ll love this (me not so much)

Wisconsin union law voided

A Wisconsin judge voided a controversial Republican-backed law restricting the collective bargaining rights of public sector unions

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/26/us-unions-wisconsin-idUSTRE74P4PR20110526

jewcowboy

May 26th, 2011
3:52 pm

Normal,

“That got me laughing…”

It’s not even Friday…I have to be juvenile to survive ;)

@@

May 26th, 2011
3:52 pm

And Recon also makes a valid point.

An employer can’t ask about ones sexual orientation, religious beliefs or political persuasion on a job application, because those are intrusive as well as irrelevant questions. Same is true for a pediatrician asking about gun ownership.

Can’t be pickin’ and choosin’. Invasion of privacy is invasion of privacy regardless.