John Edwards, Ed Schultz and Eric Bolling in Hall of Shame

“That’s exactly why we do it, Josef. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature…”

From below, Jay. The above comment should have been followed by a

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Jay, I believe it is brotha Brosephus who always claims that “Jackassery knows no political boundaries”.

And if he didn’t say it, he should have!

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A salute to lack of partisanship, Jay. Shame isn’t restricted to a liberal or a conservative. I don’t often agree with you, but this time, you’re dead on.

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It’s probably not the prudent thing to do financially but I wouldn’t mind seeing any plea deal withdrawn and let Edwards be indicted. There’s so much of this stuff going on now that when we actually get somebody in the crosshairs (rhetorically speaking, of course), we need to go ahead and make an example out of them.

I’ve never really watched Ed and his Ed Show. I tried to watch it once but after about 30-60 seconds, he struck me as just another big-mouth, blowhard (like TV ain’t got enough of those already). In a way, I think some of this is an off-shoot of Watergate. For the good they did, Woodward and Bernstein, unintentionally, created the journalist as star phenonomen that we are have suffered from, ever since. The rise of 24 hour news has done its part to make that even worse. We’ve got all these talking heads now that I believe in another life, really wanted to be movie stars or rock stars.

Eric Bolling, I never even heard of, so I won’t comment on him.

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Hillbilly

I agree with you on Watergate…it was shortly thereafter that I decided journalism as it was going was not a profession I wanted to continue in and went elsewhere…the press has been going downhill ever since…not that there aren’t some good folks doing good work, but they’re not the ones getting attention…

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Damnable attention sluts…

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Jay, my 5:29 was actually posted at 5:32 (my computer time)

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It’s not that he’s a Democrat or a Republican. What is more telling is that he’s a LAWYER!

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“What matters is that we live in a culture where there is a market for such viciousness.”

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There is, also, a pattern vicious, or rude insulting on blogs, at least here in Atlanta. That, too, is reflective of what has happened to the society-at-large. It is sad that that insulting viciousness could become a norm in today’s world.

I watched the last show of Oprah’s today and it was wonderful. She said we, each, give forth an energy, our energy, into the world. That energy is beyond words. It comes from inside. Bullies, she said, are missing something – they feel inadequate inside. All need validation. Real spiritual connection, and trust in that, is so needed in our nation today, not simply religious dogma and judgment of others.

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Buck

The Ireland trip has been on schedule for quite some time…Obama has acted appropriately in his response to the Joplin tragedy. He will be coming there this weekend. Right now, though, he’d probably just be in the way…

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He will be coming there this weekend. Right now, though, he’d probably just be in the way…

This is sort of off-topic but sort of relates to the same point. Back when the missing and murdered children thing was going on in Atlanta, Sammy Davis, Jr. came to town to help raise money and awareness. He chose not to go into the neighborhoods where the crimes had occured for what basically would have been a photo-op. He said something to the effect that, “I don’t want to go there and have people say, what the hell is he doing here?”. I thought he made the right choice in doing that.

It’s really a fine line, in a time of tragedy, between showing support and tooting your own horn.

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In a rant on his radio show, Schultz called conservative talk-radio host Laura Ingraham a “right-wing slut” and a “talk-show slut.” On Twitter, Bolling condemned President Obama for being in Ireland “chugging 40s” instead of returning home to deal with the tragedy in Joplin.

When Eric, son of Eric is held accountable for his statements I’ll get outraged, but until then — meh.

John Edwards is a slimo that should be held accountable for this.

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Boling will get a raise out of it.
Schultz will (continue to) be ignored.
Edwards will pay a heavy fine and be kept out of prison because of his kids and his connections. He probably will not be able to practice law again, not like he needs to.

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Corporate media missed the Edwards and Ahnald’s love children.

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“we live in a culture where there is a market for such viciousness.”
Jay,
You are right, just in the last few weeks it was implied that I was a racist by you on this blog without any evidence whatsoever…..YOU are helping THAT market…..there’s a word for that, it rhymes with lib-o-crite……can you help me?

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Jay,
You more than most can probably get tucker to send you any and all posts she has written….I will ‘cite’ that and call it a day…..

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Joe Mama: “Rough week for Schultz. He also got into a nasty on-air feud with fellow liberal David Sirota. / Any video of said feud? ”

No video, but here’s a piece in Salon with a link to the clip :

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/05/18/schultz_sirta_radio_battle/index.html

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ZamVet

“If you loathe the host so much, why do you feel compelled to read him so often?”

Well… “…everybody needs somebody sometime…”

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$1million is about the going rate for payoffs these days, it is a round number and has a nice ring to it. I bet that Edwards will have the nicest looking hair in whatever prision he is sent to.

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Kinda like Neal Boortz referring referring to the resident “idiot” in the White House? I think right wing slut is appropriate for all the blond bimbos that Faux news trots out 24/7 who act like they are Gods gift to humanity but often act like paid mouthpieces for the right wing nuts.

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Now josef, don’t go draggin’ me into Jay and Buck’s feud.

It’s enough for me to carry on my own, thank you, sir!

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You can read her words just as well as I……that’s what I will give you, which is more than enough for this topic………

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Joe Mama, painful listening indeed. Though I tend to agree with Schultz on many issues, here he’s completely caught with his proverbial pants down. Sirota’s right on principle. And Schultz is being the prima donna he tends to be.

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how in the world did this subject become a referendum on Cynthia Tucker??

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Well, no Zell; yet. Too bad. We get Edwards who is not running for anything except jail. I guess he is flip flopping over that too.

Did I mention that the BRAVES won the afternoon game? YES, they did. (I know I mentioned it before. But nobody reads old “threads”. Doncha know?)

Hmm …I smell England. I smell France. I smell my dinner burning in the pans. Hurrying off,,,,,

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Jay,
Anyone who has read tucker would concede this point, which is what you will have to do to reel me in any further…..if not, good day

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And you thrive on this “visciousness” don’t you Jay? Can’t you find one thing wrong with Obama? Do you think that his appointment of Jesse Lee as the “Obama Negative Press” Czar is a good thing? It is an administration position funded by taxpayers that is created only to further Obama’s re-election bid in 2012. If Bush would have done this, the end of world (God is Dead) would have been proclaimed in the NYT’s and by you and the AJC. But with you and the rest of the press, this is completely OK. America doesn’t trust the press anymore and for very good reason. You are nothing but trained puppets who are making money off of maintaining one political position or the other.

As for John Edwards and Schultz, you know that critisizing them is “safe” because your cause (the progressive cause) doesn’t have anything to lose. These two are currently irrelavent and they are expendable to the progressives in terms of political damage to your sacred Obama. I certainly hope that you aren’t trying to claim some kind of political objectivity based upon this piece. If anyone reads either you or Cynthia (is she really your supervisor Jay?), we know that objectivity was thrown out the window years ago in the American press. Stick to what you know Jay, partisan politics.

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Generally speaking, Schultz’s heart is in the right place. But his head? Well, that’s up for debate.

As a liberal, I’d like to see him replaced in the MSNBC line-up with a higher quality liberal. Liberals have a hard enough time getting their message out via the corporate media without having one of the few big time spokespersons that we do have distracting from our message.

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Ed Schultz always struck me as someone just barely this side of crazy. Kinda like the Kimmer used to be on WGST years ago.

You always knew that one day that last rubber band would snap . . .

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Even I don’t consider Cynthia Tucker writings vicious in any way.

Clueless, bigoted, inconsistent; yes.

But in a calm and reasonable way . . .

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HillBilly,

Nobody is going to get ahead of you. You are top of the line! (No matter what.) Yep! “Tis true.

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Dave — “Kinda like the Kimmer used to be on WGST years ago.”

He was two different people; one on-air and another one off the air. He had to get psyched up to put on the on-air persona. And he always had iced tea in the control room with him.

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Jay

May 25th, 2011
6:07 pm

midori, because the bizarre fixation of some apparently can’t be contained within the confines of the Tucker blog and must spill out elsewhere….?

Jay,

Come on now. Its not nice to talk about granny godzilla like that.

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Dave — “Although those Newsmaker Line segments were funny as hell!”

I can’t recall the name of the — ahem — ‘flamboyant’ character who reported on the Braves, “chop, chop!” But he was kind of like “The Olympic Flame” on WGST’s Saturday Morning Live back before the 1996 Games, if you ever listened to that program.

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Billyb, are you familiar with the saying, “All hat and no cattle”?

Or as Mrs. Slocumb would say, “Weak as water!”

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Thulsa

I didn’t know it was a word, either, but these guys must have.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D76×0Vtb_Zc

(Apologies for soiling the political blog with music)

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Does anyone remember one of the darling new words in Republispeak some years back – moral equivalence?

What we have here (besides a failure to communicate!) is verbal equivalence…

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Josef — “IcED tea? Where you from, Bubba…”

I moved here from Hawaii, if you must know. And you can’t get good iced tea out there, though they do know how to butcher a hog and roast it up.

I think the only person in Atlanta radio who can get away with saying “ice tea” on air is prob’ly O’Neal Adams.

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josef,

At the risk of having my Southern naturalization papers rescinded the only ice tea I drink is unsweetened and bottled in California. It’s called Tejava and it’s fantastic.

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I am what the democrats hate to see…….an informed voter

Not intended to be a factual statement.

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I definitely can’t do that obama water trick where he lowers the sea level……

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Speaking of Karl Rove and campaign money how much money has Obama amassed so far in his war chest? I hear its quite a load of cash. Them special interests sure pony up the dough don’t they?

WOW- A BILLION FREAKING DOLLARS!!!!

While his campaign is downplaying speculation that it could be the first to raise $1 billion, it’s nonetheless building up a cash stockpile as the GOP, with the field wide open, gets off to a slow start.

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/11_18/b4226031196942.htm

When President Barack Obama visited California in February, he had a private dinner with Apple (AAPL) Chief Executive Officer Steve Jobs, Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, and other technology chieftains.

Aaaaaaaaah. So that’s how google and other cali technology firms pay little in taxes- they cozy up to the Obama special favor/special interest administration. Just look at google for example.

Google 2.4% Rate Shows How $60 Billion Lost to Tax Loopholes
By Jesse Drucker – Oct 21, 2010 6:00 AM ET

Google cut its taxes by $3.1 billion in the last three years using a technique that moves most of its foreign profits through Ireland and the Netherlands to Bermuda.

Google’s income shifting — involving strategies known to lawyers as the “Double Irish” and the “Dutch Sandwich” — helped reduce its overseas tax rate to 2.4 percent, the lowest of the top five U.S. technology companies by market capitalization, according to regulatory filings in six countries.

“It’s remarkable that Google’s effective rate is that low,” said Martin A. Sullivan, a tax economist who formerly worked for the U.S. Treasury Department.

Obama-Google connection scares competitors

Google CEO Eric Schmidt didn’t say anything as he flanked President-elect Barack Obama during his first post-election press conference. He didn’t have to.

The image alone of Schmidt standing elbow-to-elbow with Obama’s top economic thinkers was enough to send shivers up the spine of Google’s competitors.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15487.html

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nevertheless, a reality Kamchak…..

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don’t make him say it HD……..

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“When we interviewed him during the 2004 primaries, he came across as very shallow in knowledge and understanding.”

Wow. “The Breck Girl” shallow?

All you needed to do was listen to his “Two Americas” speech to figure THAT out.

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Phew…guess I’m off the hook on the unsweetened part.

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Jay

May 25th, 2011
6:21 pm

I don’t know, Thulsa. Do you consider accuracy an adequate defense?

More seriously: No, I don’t think they’re comparable.

I hear ya Jay. So that whole plethora of nasty adjectives that Cynthia used to describe Newt isn’t as bad as the Fox commentator saying Obama was chugging 40s? Also the fox commentator may have believed those large mugs or whatever size glasses those were contained much more than 16- 20 ounces mugs over here. When i eat Mexican I definitely get one of those near 40 ounce big dos equis mega mugs Not sure if they’re 40 ouncers but that’s why I call them. I think they’re actually 30-36 ounces but whose counting?

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Dave — “Joe, that was the glorious Lesley Dove . . . ”

Thank you! I thought someone would remember.

I’m out, wife needs attention. You have to maintain them frequently or else they can get petulant and rusty.

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JOE

Okay…,maybe you are from round here…are you registered with the civil authorities of The People’s Democratic Republic of the South?

Speaking of goat…now that’s some good stuff if you get it from somebody who knows what they’re doing…there’s a place out on Buford Hwy (can’t remember the name right now) that flat knows how to…a dive joint, but, hey, that’s where you get it…

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Josef — “Speaking of goat…now that’s some good stuff if you get it from somebody who knows what they’re doing…there’s a place out on Buford Hwy (can’t remember the name right now) that flat knows how to…a dive joint, but, hey, that’s where you get it…”

Spanish markets often have it.

There was a barbecue shack in Tifton years ago, just off I-75, that served all the standards plus BBQ goat ribs.

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But when you started to ask him WHY he thought that way, he began to founder quickly.

That doesn’t surprise me. In my lifetime, I can only remember one or two candidates that actually had a vision. Whether anybody agreed with that vision or not, depended on perspective. For the vast majority of candidates, the vision is to be President. If they happen to win, they’ve achieved their goal and they’re sort of like the dog who chases the car…….what do you do when you catch it?

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Jay @ 6:46

I wouldn’t worry about it. The memory thing ain’t all it’s cracked up to be. With Hillbillies in my neck of the woods, everything goes to the grave, and often beyond. That ain’t necessarily a good thing.

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I saw John Edwards speak here, when he was on the campaign trail (my girlfriend dragged me along).

It was like going to a rock show.

The guy had that kind of charisma.

I got a kick out of it, but it left me a bit more disillusioned than ever, seeing how easily people can be manipulated with some flowery, albeit empty, words…

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“I sometimes forget the names of people I know well. Bothers the hell out of me.”

At my age I suffer from CRS! Can’t Remember Shyte!

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“I sometimes forget the names of people I know well. Bothers the hell out of me.”

Comes from being born in 1956, Jay! I know the affliction all too well.

Oh, and try having that problem when running for office. . .

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By the way, I’m an Ed-o-maniac! THANK GOD for people like Ed Schultz! So what if he called Laura Ingraham a slut! Maybe she is, how should I know?

I know one thing’s for sure, Ed cuts through the BS and tells it like it is.

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Jay

May 25th, 2011
6:48 pm

Sorry, still wrong, Thulsa.

My memory’s still good enough to recall he didn’t take the oath until January 2009.

Jay- I’m getting like Obama where everything is 2008. Ever since he signed that log the other day in Ireland saying May 24,2008 I keep thinking he came into office in 2008. Even he thinks it.

So what happened to the big initative in 09 to start closing the loopholes on this?

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We haven’t seen a thread on how Bibi handed Bozo his hat in the recent tif at the WH. Just to watch Bozo’s arrogance float to the top….. why the audacity of this Jew coming to my White House and lecturing me on how to conduct foreign policy. The 67 borders…. Bozo sounded like Sarah Palin. Bibi received about the biggest ovation and approval rating that Congress has given a foreign head of state and all Bozo could do was go to Ireland. Someone really screwed up on the staff to let him get into this kind of position where he looked like a sophomore college student being lectured to by a professional. Photo ops at his great-great-great grandfather’s birth place. Give me a friggin’ break. No mention of all of this Bookman, or is it too embarrassing?

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I was probably a Kerry guy, RW.

Frontrunner!

j/k

But with your ties to the little pares in Western Mass it would seem like Kerry would be your guy in that mix. Probably would have been Dean before the scream I;m guessing though.

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“By the way, I’m an Ed-o-maniac!”

You can’t make this stuff up . . . .

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Once again, Jay proves he’s the cut-and-paste King!

(poke, poke)

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JAY

There is a book in it…you just got the wrong year. 1954. I was born halfway between Brown v Board and Dien Bien Phu…two events worlds away which determined a generation…I’ve often thought about the book that could be in that…and, K’chak and Doggone could ignore it since everything is not about me!

And Dean? Well, I personally liked him for my own off the wall reasons…when he made the comment about making the Democrat Party big tent big enough to include the rebel flag-pick up folks, he was on to something…then he got sheep hooked stage left…had an interesting correspondence with him on that one…he impressed me with the depth of what he had to say on that subject…

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How did “papers” turn into “pares”

geez….

(IHB)

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I find Laura Ingraham rather innocuous. Yes, I disagree with her politics, but she’s smart, funny and reasonable. And though still misguided on the topic, she’s ameliorated the worst of her homophobia. (Cuz her bro is gay.)

She certainly doesn’t deserve to be called the s word.

Now Ann Coulter. That one probably deserves whatever invective is returned to her! (karma)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7NcfDOL71o&feature=related

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kayaker

Two separate points…why nothing about g-g-g-g-grandfather’s birthplace…well, to get him from there to here requires having to deal with a certain period of history and “sides” which would run afoul of Yankee Sharia…

But as for Bibi and Obama…I disagree with you on that one…I don’t see anything approaching a rift in relations…Obama merely stated that US policy would continue as previously, and Bibi had to play to an audience (and electorate) back home…the deals made under the table and in the back room will be apparant in the days to come…

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oh, and the only reason I tune in to MSNBC at all is Rachel; not much interest in the rest of their shows, although I guess Cenk’s ok (never watching at 6pm).

I’ve stumbled upon Ed Schultz on the radio, like some other people have said, he literally sounds a lot like Rush and that’s who I thought I was listening to at first.

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IMAM

Didn’t yore Mama teach you to respect your elders? Uppity lil whippersnapper…

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TPM reporting Ed Shultz has been suspended from MSNBC for a week.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/05/msnbcs-ed-schultz-calls-radio-host-laura-ingraham-a-right-wing-slut.php?ref=fpb

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In which of his “two worlds” will Edwards end up? Probably a country club prison where the only thing denied him is hairspray.

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“56 RULES!

What Jay said!

And “I’ll play on your lawn” is the polite version . . .

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Hillbilly

Hell, now you’re not only first to say it, you’re top of the page, too…

I feel so persecuted….

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josef @ 7:22

Mine is at the top of the page on my screen, at least for now. And I’ve been flagged for posting too fast about a dozen times tonight. In the real world, nobody has ever accused me of doing anything too fast, except driving or getting mad.

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I always thought so, josef, but when you had the earlier quote I thought you had had a brain . . . cramp.

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Themistocles (a.k.a. Left Wing Mgmt)

May 25th, 2011
7:20 pm
GOP “Ryan” budget plan goes down in Senate.

I am so glad! Now maybe the Democrats will come up with a plan.

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Joseph,

If you didn’t see the obvious, I won’t bore you with a rebuff. Better men than Bozo have tried and failed to resolve the ME disputes. He plays to his Muslim friends, if he has any left after OBL, when he advocates a Palistinian state. He has a vision for the ME which is not in line with reality. Israel will survive and people like Bibi will make it so. The 67 borders statement was a mistake but Bozo doesn’t have the vision to realize it. The essential thing in this whole debate….. if you had to put your trust in either Bibi or Bozo to protect what you have, who would you chose? The answer is painfully obvious.

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LWM, not a surprise there.

What was a surprise was what followed: “Immediately after the vote on the Ryan budget, the Senate unanimously rejected President Obama’s 2012 budget proposal. The Obama budget did not secure the support of a single lawmaker, with all 97 senators present voting “no.”

Just damn!

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Them, so a few RINO’s voted against it. I’m shocked, I tell you, shocked!

I love how well the demos have demonized Ryan’s plan so well without proposing any plan of their own regarding how to save the program.

I guess O’Bozo sucking out $500 billion out of it for Obamacare is cool with them.

Why don’t they run on that?

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“I feel so persecuted….”

But of course you do!

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Hillbilly

Been getting that flag a lot tonight myself…

Closer to Mississippi, eh, there are those who’ll claim I’m still there and, time being relative, 150 years ago,,,

DAVE

My brain hurts…

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Just remember the “New World Order” Obama spoke of today will confiscate all of the worlds wealth and redistribute that wealth equally among all of us. I believe it will come to less than $100 per person. There will be free health care if you can walk to he village.

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Hillbilly
@ 7:34

But what would the MAJOR historians say about that?

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Three less idiots.. we should be so lucky

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Give me control of a nations money supply, and I care not who makes it’s laws. Mater Amschel Rothschild

Don’t know if that’s an accurate quote or not, it’s widely attributed to be, but it’s something to think about, in the rush to a “New World Order”.

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Republicans stick to plan to privatize Medicare

“We aren’t going to abandon this,” a senior Republican aide said. “We want to save Medicare, while Democrats would let it die. Those must be the first words out of our mouths from now on: ‘We want to save Medicare.’”

YES! by all means stick by your guns! Never, ever abandon a lost cause no matter what the cost. This just gets better and better!

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Repugs, here’s your 2012 campaign in a nutshell!

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kayaker 71

May 25th, 2011
7:27 pm

Joseph,

If you didn’t see the obvious, I won’t bore you with a rebuff. Better men than Bozo have tried and failed to resolve the ME disputes. He plays to his Muslim friends, if he has any left after OBL, when he advocates a Palistinian state. He has a vision for the ME which is not in line with reality. Israel will survive and people like Bibi will make it so. The 67 borders statement was a mistake but Bozo doesn’t have the vision to realize it.

He didn’t realize it because it was nothing new.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W73v4p6Yyg

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The first President I remember pushing the “New World Order” stuff was George H W Bush. I thought it was a mistake then and I still do.

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OK, Brosephus. Spit take for me at 7:47.

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Just remember the “New World Order” Obama spoke of today will confiscate all of the worlds wealth and redistribute that wealth equally among all of us.

Brother, you’re not ready for the nWo. When you’re nWo, you’re nWo 4 Life!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ShM-y4lWxk

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Dave R @ 7:33

I agree with you that the election of 2012 will be a pivotal one in determining America’s future direction and budding consciousness, as well as the world’s future direction. I hope that you will take the time to read, or better yet, view and listen to President Obama’s British Parliament speech in full, if available to you. His words are quite exceptional and visionary, and I believe the world will move in the direction that he foresees. Here are my words, earlier this week on this blog (5/24/11 at 9:22 a.m.):
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“There are, IMHO, two worldviews pulling at the heart of the American soul, and it goes beyond the immigration issue. One worldview will supersede the other for the remainder of the 21st century in America. Those different worldviews can be presented as a question. Are we all interconnected, one with the other, or are we totally self-sufficient as individuals? The world will move in the direction of interconnected and egalitarianism. The proof of my assertion is shown through an emerging global economy and global warming, as well as in the spontaneous risings in Middle Eastern countries of that egalitarian spirit and need for individual freedom of expression.

America’s and Georgia’s citizens will choose to move with the future – and also with what is morally right above simply the law (as in the Civil Rights Era) – or they will attempt, futilely, to remain in the past and, thereby fail for themselves and others, both economically and morally.”
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Some may be interested in reading my entire post under the “immigration” post; and from the assessment I have offered above, the year of demarcation would have been 1954, as josef mentioned, not 1974, in that the Civil Rights law was decided that year, and that egalitarian spirit changed not only in our nation but throughout the world, i.e., in South Africa, and in India even earlier. In my post I gave video proof that during the 1970s, the far right deliberately tried to turn back the coming tide, and they have been successful since then, stealthily, until now. However, the world’s consciousness is now moving in a direction that cannot be stopped. It is the future. It is destined by a force larger than any of us.

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Josef

OOOOOhh! I just knew it! You can call it “Nuts From the Peanut Gallery”

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Senate rejects Ryan budget; vote puts GOP on the spot [MSNBC]

Snowe and Brown are up for re-election in 2012.

Snowe and Brown are up for re-election in 2012. Imagine that!

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President Obama did not use the word, “New World Order” in his speech today or at all as far as I recall. That is a fundamentalist Christian terminology and it generates fear. Please view the speech without preconceived ideas about “New World Order, ” which religious groups are perpetuating.

And, Dave R, the Great Recession happened on Bush’s watch; we are now slowly recovering from it under Obama’s watch.

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Mighty Righty
@ 7:59

“George Soros is the current pusher. George controls just about all of the media, NBC,ABC,CBS,CNN,MSnbc,N.Y. Times, Washington Post, etc. He controls the Democrat Party and most of the Unions. He controls Barack Obama.”

And THERE’s the Soros card…

What IS it with Soros that so gets some in a state? He’s as crooked as a West Virginia highway, true, but its the same game as plenty of others…it’s just he shows the left can do it as well as the right…

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Jay, you might add this.

RIP, Mark Haines of CNBC. He was a great business news reporter.

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dB

When I hear New World Order, my mind goes back to WCW Wrestling with Hogan, Hall, Nash, Steiner, and the rest of the nWo. Always been a wrasslin’ watcher. It’s my vice.

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Mary Elizabeth, people have consciousness, not countries or worlds.

Anything else is psycho-babble clap-trap.

And there is no greater force than a free individual, acting on his or her own accord.

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wiccan

Not a bad title…and, well, “Welcome to the Monkey House” was already taken!

And for the record, when I heard New World Order being used, a chill ran up my spine…and then when it caught on, well…it’s scarey if for no other reason than the popular culture seems to have forgotten what that term signifies…

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wiccan, mary elizabeth

The future?

A Cherokee grandfather was teaching his grandson about life…

“A fight is going on inside me,” he said to the boy.
“It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves.

“One is evil – he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, self-doubt, and ego.

“The other is good – he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith.

“This same fight is going on inside you – and inside every other person, too.”

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather,
“Which wolf will win?”

The grandfather replied,
“The one you feed”

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Moments when teleprompters just don’t work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNRXGRFJdDY

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Dave R @ 8:16

Dave, individual people do have consciousness, as well as nations and the world. Read any of the works of Carl Jung and you will come to see that that is true. He and and his mentor, Sigmund Freud, opened up ways of viewing the mind and consciousness that people had never known before. They both world famous, well-respected thinkers and psychiatrists – hardly “psycho-babble clap-trap.”

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I seem to recall some extremely tasteless nude pictures of Dr. Laura not too long ago. They were all over the Internet, and it is apparent they weren’t the product of some super-spy with a camera. The deliberate posing for such pictures would strike me as qualifying for the application of Ed’s epithet.

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josef nix

May 25th, 2011
8:11 pm
Mighty Righty
@ 7:59

“George Soros is the current pusher. George controls just about all of the media, NBC,ABC,CBS,CNN,MSnbc,N.Y. Times, Washington Post, etc. He controls the Democrat Party and most of the Unions. He controls Barack Obama.”

And THERE’s the Soros card…

What IS it with Soros that so gets some in a state? He’s as crooked as a West Virginia highway, true, but its the same game as plenty of others…it’s just he shows the left can do it as well as the right…

Study old George. He is dangerous. He even scared NPR recently. They were conveninced he was trying to influence their programs.

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Dave R,
Your 8:16 is simply opinion; there are other points of view on what caused the economic crash of 2009.

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Dave R,

Brockton, but I escaped to Florida when I was 3. Married a girl from Pittsfield 13 years ago though. The weird thing is we met in Georgia.

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Righty

I HAVE studied the life of Soros….

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I have 40 more that voted to go in the hall of shame.

“WASHINGTON — Senate Democrats wasted no time capitalizing on Tuesday’s Medicare-fueled upset in a New York special election, holding a vote on the GOP budget plan Wednesday designed to put Republicans on record backing the controversial House budget plan.

The measure failed, 57 to 40, with five Republicans breaking ranks: Sens. Scott Brown of Massachusetts, Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Rand Paul of Kentucky”AOL

Shame on the gop.

Keep yelling at them.

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suuuuuuucks to be John Edwards. Glad he’s getting his due. Can reporters get a clue?

Mark Haines was a guy who reported and questioned every CEO and Wall St guy as hard as it comes. He was always keeping an eye out for the small investor and beat guys up about corruption constantly, whether they were Congressman or CEO’s.

You have to despair about the quality of journalism these days. RIP Tony Snow, Louis Rukeyser as well. Argh.

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DAVE

Moshe Dayan once said, “if peace in the Middle East is dependent on the obliteration of Israel, what stake do we have in such a peace?”

Disgusted
“…seem to recall some extremely tasteless nude pictures of Dr. Laura”

Tasteless nude pictures? Dr. Laura…?

There’s something redundant there….

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josef @ 8:21

josef, I had heard that story before. So true. That is why I believe when we “feed” incivililty and harshness toward one another, that is the kind of world we are creating by first creating it within ourselves.

I mentioned this afternoon on the blog that Oprah Winfrey, whom I hardly ever watch but did today as it was her last broadcast, spoke of how we each emanate an energy that is communicated from us into the world. We must first choose – and I would say know – our better angels before the world’s better “angel” will emerge. And this is not found by following rules of religious dogma; it is found by knowing oneself – good wolf and bad – and not judging harshly – just knowing.

(And as you all know very well I am sure, I definitely have a “bad” wolf, inside me, as well as a “good” one! But the good Lord has not given up on me yet!)

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Don’t Forget

“Why can’t the lazy wolves feed themselves? lol”

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DAVE

There’s a lot of science in religion, and a lot of religion in science…Maimonides, d*mmit! He settled that question 700 years ago!

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I would lump Jay’s idiotic comment last week that (white) Herman Cain supporters only support him so The Right can have their black guy too. That was lower than alligator squeeze – even for Bookman.

Now maybe if we can get the main stream liberal DNC media to stop slobbering over O’Bama – like their horror shown when Netanyahu had to “school” O’Bama on the Israeli’s situation in the region (THAT was priceless). Of course that will happen right after we see CNN report about Pelosiland and all those Obamacare wavers in her district.

Besides, at least the Bush crew were bright enough to know where a presidential limo could – and couldn’t – drive without getting stuck. And did The Queen give back that idiotic gift of CD’s and make any comments about enjoying the bust of Churchill that O’Bama threw back at them? Inquiring minds want to know. But that’s why we have a successful new media, of which the O’Bama administration has set up a new Goon Squad (at taxpayer expense) to attempt to intimidate and silence. Here’s to a fun 16 and a half months!

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I was expecting…Bookman, Tucker and Barr…oh well…

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We know the true meaning of the latest Republiterm, “mediscare”. It’s Ryan’s attempt at diversion now that his yellowbrick roadmap has been revealed and people see that he wants to take money used to fund medicare and medicaid and food stamps and give it to the wealthiest in the form of yet another tax cut while also continuing to run up the national debt at the same time. We got your Mediscare.

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For Jay and other Red Sox fans:

“Daisuke Matsuzaka is back in Japan, and if Boston Red Sox brass were slipped a dose of truth serum, they’d love for him never to return.”

TESTIFY!

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“We know the true meaning of the latest Republiterm, “mediscare”. It’s Ryan’s attempt at diversion now that his yellowbrick roadmap has been revealed and people see that he wants to take money used to fund medicare and medicaid and food stamps and give it to the wealthiest in the form of yet another tax cut while also continuing to run up the national debt at the same time. We got your Mediscare.”

Well said, Taxpayer!

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NEW WORLD ORDER..new world order!!! Was that the German’s or the hippies or those in rapture??

What a crock! I don’t want a new world order. I just want the old world we ‘ve got to get in order. Since we are in the best place in the world already, I suggest we “straighten up and fly right” and appreciate what we have.

The rest of the world knows our history. I don’t care to change that into some nebulous notion of new neausous nonsense.

We cannot be the world’s mother. We can only assist them if possible in their own reach. Iraq! We are trying with Afghanistan!! The Middle East is turning over its own world. They struggle. We stand like a golden goal post already won for equality. Those without freedom wish to reach a similar goal..

New world order! Indeed! How about working on the old one before you order a new one?

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Bush: Surplus Justifies Tax Cut

“A surplus in tax revenue, after all, means that taxpayers have been overcharged,” the president said. “And usually when you’ve been overcharged, you expect to get something back.” The surplus figure “counts more than any other” in the budget, he said.

Just in case anyone ever forgets.

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AmVet, he can have Lackey as far as I’m concerned. Wakefield’s a better pitcher as far as I’m concerned.

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Soothsayer

May 25th, 2011
8:26 pm
It’s amazing, really! The Republican momentum coming out of the 2010 elections is simply vanishing right before their eyes! As I have said many, many times before, the Republicans mistook the backlash from Obama’s Healthcare Reform Bill as a mandate for their entire kooky agenda.

Well, now the chickens are coming home to roost. Let’s eliminate unions for public workers! Let’s eliminate Medicare! After all, that’s what the Kochs (kooks) want isn’t it?

Imagine the insurance company profits with all those “high risk” seniors on the books! Why, it simply boggles the mind! Imagine the executive salaries with all those hapless seniors on board!

Forget about “living” wages and retirement for public workers. Heck, they can live in mobile homes!

The whole putrid, septic logic is now coming to a head! It’s time to excise the Republican boil that festers on the buttocks of America! Imagine what we can accomplish as a country without endless wars, corporate control of our government and a government of the people, for the people and by the people instead of the government we now have which answers only to their corporate masters.

DAMN! That felt good

How do you explain tis poll taken today?

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
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The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 25% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Thirty-five percent (35%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -10 (see trends).

The president holds a 45% to 44% edge over a Generic Republican in an early look at 2012. Republicans hold a two-point advantage over Democrats on the Generic Congressional Ballot.

That felt pretty good as well.

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Just in case anyone ever forgets.

Well, this Soothsayer must of misremembered what My President said. Anyhow, it sure sounded good when he was promising us a Tax Cut. It made alot of sense that if you give up about a third your income, your income will get bigger. I just let the experts tell me what I wanted to hear. It wasn’t my fault.

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That any Republican presents himself on this blog presuming to have the “answers” is beyond ludicrous. I never cease to be amazed at the bald-faced gall of the Republicans/Right on this blog as if somehow they have the “answers.” Heck, they caused all the problems in the first place.

WAKE UP AMERICA! It’s time for the fockees to revolt against the fockors.

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jm,

This gop house is the worst ever.

You vote for failure and tried to steal Medicare like you tried to steal ss.

Pitiful.

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Interesting that Obummer and the Democrats are taking 500 Billion out of Medicare while they demagogue the Ryan plan with no plan of their own to save Medicare for future generations.

They’re taking $500 billion from Medicare Advantage, the super-luxury Medicare plan offered by private insurance companies. Why should I pay to fund Medicare benefits that regular Medicare subscribers don’t have? Why should my Medicare contributions go to wealthy subscribers who can afford to kick in an extra 20 bucks a month so that they can have the Mercedes Benz of all Medicare plans? Hell with those spoiled, wealthy people. Let them have the same Medicare the rest of us will have.

But keep your talking point, Recon. You reveal a bit of Himmler in your argument, much like those who argue that Obama’s failure to close Gitmo was a broken promise, even though it was the Republicans who blocked the closure in Congress.

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From National Review:

“The Senate just finished voting on the Paul Ryan/House Republican budget resolution, as well as the budget put forward by President Obama in February. Both, as expected, were voted down, but only Ryan’s received any votes.

Indeed, the Obama budget failed by the astounding final count of 0 to 97. Not even Bernie Sanders (S., Vt.) could bring himself to support the president’s plan, begging the question, as one observer in the Senate gallery put it: “Are Democrats actually for anything?”

The Ryan budget, on the other hand, was voted down 40 to 57, with five Republicans — Sens. Brown, Collins, Murkowski, Paul and Snowe — voting ‘no,’ along with every Democrat.”

So, when it comes down to the serious work of passing a budget, the Democrats won’t cooperate. In supporting their party’s own leader’s budget they can’t even be bothered to vote PRESENT as Obama himself did so many times before he was selected as this amazing story he has become. What the Democrats did vote on his budget was a resounding NO!

Obama is just not a serious actor on the national stage anymore, much less the world stage. When the cameras are turned off (and perhaps for this reason they have turned away), serious people reject him and his ill-considered policies.

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Jay

May 25th, 2011
6:59 pm

Thulsa, I’d suspect it fell afoul of the no-new-taxes-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever crowd.

Jay,

Didn’t the Dems dems dems dems dems dems dems dems dems dems dems dems dems dems dems dems dems dems dems dems dems dems dems dems dems dems dems dems dems dems
control Congress in 2009???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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Dave R @ 9:00

Dave, you are trying to give me a “sound bite” view of the work of Carl Jung, a man whose work you have, no doubt, never read. How futile. Why don’t you simply read his work and learn from a great mind. I am not trying to “win” a silly debate here with you this evening. You must see that.

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getalife 9:03 – worse than the Democrat dominated House and Senate that didn’t pass a budget? I think not.

Worse than the current Democrat Senate that has the lowest legislative volume in decades? I think not.

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RW,,,Indian pudding the same as grits? Awwww they told me it was dessert! Poor Indians.

Well, I wish the Braves were playing tonight (Did I tell you Conrad homered in the 11th?) or Masterpiece Theater was playing a nice Jane Austen story. Getting kinda slow around here again.. Busy day tomorrow…

Goodnite…

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Mary Elizabeth @ 8:48pm

“And Dave, science is only one discipline of knowledge.”

I’m curious Mary Elizabeth. I don’t mean to intrude….

But….

I wonder. What is science to you, the etymology of the word, what you think of science as a field vs. say other disciplines of knowledge? What would you consider other disciplines of knowledge? Would be interested in what anyone else thinks on this…..

Thanks,

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Add another just now,

What did he say?

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“I am not trying to “win” a silly debate here with you this evening. You must see that.”

I always see that, Mary Elizabeth. Your trying to do that which cannot be done would be an exercise in futility on your part. Shows a maturity I did not think you possessed.

And I have read Jung and Freud. Not a great deal, because I tire easily of clap-trap.

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Well, it’s time to leave to begin my “elbow exercises.” But I will leave you with this.

Goodnight everyone!

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“Michelle… I’m OK to drive.” — Get that limo stuck on the hill….. LMFAO !!

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“This gop house is the worst ever.”

The Nancy Pelosi/DEMOCRAT led House of Representatives didn’t even pass a budget last year…

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Sometimes a person’s ignorance on a topic is of such a profound nature that I literally laugh until my ribs hurt. Disgusted has provided me with one of those such moments.

Let me help you out there disgusted. The main beneficiaries of Medicare Advantage plans are poor and middle class seniors. They are good plans but are hardly “cadillac” plans. I know because Medicare Advantage and Medicare Supplement plans are how I and my agents make a living.

Medicare Supplement plans are in fact the “cadillac plans” which are what the upper middle class and wealthier individuals tend to purchase- this is private insurance that the poorer and lower middle class people can’t afford. I always thought it was the poor and middle class people that the Dems purported to look out for.

“Super Luxury” medicare advantage plans? That is tooooooo funny. I can’t wait to tell my agents about your blog post.

Disgusted

May 25th, 2011
9:06 pm

Interesting that Obummer and the Democrats are taking 500 Billion out of Medicare while they demagogue the Ryan plan with no plan of their own to save Medicare for future generations.

They’re taking $500 billion from Medicare Advantage, the super-luxury Medicare plan offered by private insurance companies. Why should I pay to fund Medicare benefits that regular Medicare subscribers don’t have? Why should my Medicare contributions go to wealthy subscribers who can afford to kick in an extra 20 bucks a month so that they can have the Mercedes Benz of all Medicare plans? Hell with those spoiled, wealthy people. Let them have the same Medicare the rest of us will have.

But keep your talking point, Recon.

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Dave @ 9:17 please see chart @ 8:58. Goodnight.

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She really does evoke Marie Antoinette
http://www.politico.com/click/stories/1105/flotus_brings_bling_to_london.html

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jm

May 25th, 2011
9:17 pm
If I may take a spare moment to chastise some of the Republican commentators. I heard a couple bemoaning the infringement on liberties by the Obama administration.

Excuse me? Where were these guys during Bush? While I agree that what Obama is doing is horrible, they should take a little extra time and chastise Bush for what he did that has infringed on a lot of rights (privacy and otherwise).

Please explain. Names, places, details. For example; Black thugs in Philadelphia at polling place carrying clubs threatening voters. In spite of video evidence charges dropped by Obama AG Holder! Or how about S.E.I.U. thugs beating a man in St. Louis. Again in spite of video tape, no charges.

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“Dave @ 9:17 please see chart @ 8:58. Goodnight.”

Well, if Sooth’s whole argument is based on a Crayola picture, it MUST be correct.

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The Doom dissects the talking points of the ignorant and the hapless!

Why should I pay to fund Medicare benefits that regular Medicare subscribers don’t have?- Disgusted

Disgusted, Clearly you are ignorant of that fact that nearly everybody that qualifies for regular medicare also qualifies for a Medicare advantage plan if they want one.

Why should my Medicare contributions go to wealthy subscribers who can afford to kick in an extra 20 bucks a month so that they can have the Mercedes Benz of all Medicare plans?- Disgusted

Wealthy subscribers? Really? That’s news to me and my hundreds of Medicare Advantage plan customers. Most of them take an Advantage plan because they can’t afford a far more expensive private supplement plan.

Hell with those spoiled, wealthy people. Let them have the same Medicare the rest of us will have.-Disgusted

The spoiled, wealthy people have the exact same Medicare that anybody who doesn’t want a Medicare Advantage plan have which is original Medicare. They simply chose to purchase a separate, expensive private supplement plan to cover the costs that Original medicare does not cover.

But keep your talking point, Recon.- Disgusted.

And you keep your ignorance talking points at home disgusted. Its obvious that whatever misinformed trash you read had to have come from some loony left wing site like the Huffington post.

Exactly where did you get these nonsensical ideas about Medicare??? Source please?????

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Let’see. For the chart challenged, I think if that chunk in Figure 1 called Bush-era tax cuts is removed then you can move that “current deficit projection” line down to a lower numeric value and that corresponds to a reduction in the deficit and national debt.

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USMC dawg 9:18 – don’t distract libs with facts.

Might Righty – Bush transgressions (in my book anyway): renditions, torture, and most importantly, significantly upping surveillance. Now the last one may be fully justifiable on national security grounds. But there needs to be damn good oversight by a separate branch of government in my book.

I see Obama trampling more on economic rights so far, more so than personal liberties.

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Obama is drunk again – it would explain why he thinks its 2008

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Soothsayer: Bush tax cuts and wars in Afghanistan and Iraq account for the lion’s share of our budget deficit.

Dave R.: Cheeseburgers are on sale at McDonalds!

Soothsayer: Wha-a-a-a-at?!!

Dave R.: Cheeseburger are on sale at McDonalds!

Soothsayer: Come back when you have something to say.

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buck@gon @ 9:12

“I’m curious Mary Elizabeth. I don’t mean to intrude….

But….

I wonder. What is science to you, the etymology of the word, what you think of science as a field vs. say other disciplines of knowledge? What would you consider other disciplines of knowledge.”
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Buck@gon, you asked sincere questions of me. I will try to respond to you in a few days. Those are in-depth questions that you posed. I am a little tired now, so I would not do the answers to them justice, tonight. But I will respond to you, later. Thanks for your interest in my thoughts.
Have a nice evening.

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“You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.”

This is getting very tiresome. Oh yes, and it sounds like Stephen Colbert talking.

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Cocaine use in WH. Not by Obama…… oops. Must be Obama’s dealer.

http://i.imgur.com/Vf7DA.png

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Dave R’s 9:32 pretty much sums him up. If anything, Dave R is predictable.

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“Kinda like your so called “truth” that 9/11 was an inside job done by the Bush administration.”

Forget my so-called truth how about these architects and engineers who may, as it turns out know a little more about these things than you do. By the way, they agree with me.

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Just got in;
Interesting, so Jay equivicates the words of nonelected pundits to the dispicable activities (planned misuse of contributions to hide behavior, fraud, lying, etc} of an elected official (and presidential candidate).
Edwards is slime, and always has been. I know people who have known him since he started law practice in Raleigh. He was and is an ambulance chaser. He made his millions taking problem pregency cases and “looking pretty” for the jury and playing to their emotions. A good friend (and the OB/GYN who delivered my younger daughter) quit delivering babies because the cost of insurance got so high that it cost him to do deliveries (due directly to Edwards lawsuits). Raleigh had fewer delivery OB/GYMs per 100,000 population than Bombay India!!! (directly due to Edwards lawsuits).
Yes, he is pretty! Women swoon, but he has NO integity!!

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Indian pudding the same as grits?

Dusty

That wasn’t me bringing that news to the board. I’ve never even heard of the stuff, but I wouldn’t put it past these blog gremlins to start moving commentary around to other boxes if they’ve tired of just moving the boxes.

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Thulsa

make all the comparisons you like

But not once did Netanyahu say stop GIVING us aid, stop selling us technology and stop having your FBI and CIA corporate with our IDF and Mosad………… or did I miss something

You stupid fvks are all mad because Obama said what Presidents have been negotiating in some form or fashion for 40 yrs

Fox news and right wing pundits originally tried to spin it has it had NEVER been ever even implied.. it took all of ONE minute to debunk it than they went to well it was never said publicly

And yet YOU still cry

Doobie Bros wrote a song about YOUR ilk

“what a fool believes”

hahhhhahahhahhhahahahah

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Thulsa: just as I expected — nothing to say. All hat and no cattle. Goodnight.

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Thulsa…

And we shall continue this at a later date, then…and contrarities do not, per force, equate with polarities…

I leave y’all to the name calling and sniping…end of the school year lunch tomorrow and have to make sure the hot barbecued sausage are crock-potting properly…

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They BOTH suck,

Sir. I never disputed any of what you said in your post about what previous presidents had said and yadda yadda yadda. Where did you read that in?

I just thought it was funny watching Bibi take him to school. Although I will admit I actually felt a little sorry for Obama. It was like being dressed down by your dad when you said or did something bad as a kid. Why you so sensitive?

Obviously Bibi and the Israelis agree with you- that Obama said nothing controversial when you mentioned the pre-1967 borders. Right?

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Thulsa

Just because the PM got mad that a US Pres said publicly what others before him R and D had already said in private

I don’t CARE…….

Many on the right are PISSED or it wouldn’t have been the out cry that came from it

Not given Palestinians a pass for their BS, but for Israel to be called on the carpet is NOT the end of the world

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Thulsa

Name the insurance company that is currently taking new clients over 65 with preexisting medical conditions at rates that the Ryan plan lays out…

Not saying changes are not require and fast, but lets start with the FACTS

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Dave R.

May 25th, 2011
9:54 pm

TBS, I really don’t bother much with TaxPayer. He/she/it never answers questions, never replies to challenges, and never provides any meaningful discussion to any debate.

So I do not waste time with him/her/it.

Dave R.,

I’ beginning to find that out. The man never has any valid points about anything. Ever. Just sniping and then accusing others of sniping. He wouldn’t know a fact if it bit him in the ass.

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TBS, in the big scheme of things the $3 billion or so we give in aid to Israel is small potatoes.

In addition, the information between the CIA, FBI and Mossad is not a one-way street, you know.

If you don’t think we aren’t getting valuable intelligence from them in regards to anti-terrorist activities, think again.

The ‘67 borders are NOT a starting point, TBS. The naivete displayed by this President, and the sophomoric way he made it public just before yet ANOTHER state visit by Netanyahu shows that he is either way, way over his head (no surprise there), or just wants to stick it to Israel.

Until Hamas tears up the Unity Agreement and publicly proclaims Israel’s right to exist, there can be no negotiations. Ever. As Bibi said the other day, “What are we going to discuss with them, the method of our immolation?”

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@@, chugging 40 oz. of beer.

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Oh lawd!

It’s become all too funny. How many times have I hit refresh only to find Kamchak “tick, tick, ticking” away?

Too many. He’s like our resident timekeeper. A stopwatch or sorts.

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And with that, I’m calling it a day. Red Sox kicked Cleveland Indian a$$, and I made me some money.

Night, all.

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Thulsa

Which ones are signing up to do what you say and are publicly advertising it?

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Jay, I’ll play nice but I’m not being any meaner than anyone else on here. Why am I being singled out?

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Perhaps Thulsa has no comments regarding that link in my 9:49 post.

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Thulsa

earlier…. I believe you made reference to Medicare

I responded by saying which ins companies are currently taking new clients that would fit into the Ryan plan when it comes to age, conditions and proposed voucher payments

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“I use the “hehehe” as a taunt”

Yeah, I know…I guess I wasn’t clear enough that I was talking about the comment you were responding to! In case you haven’t noticed, that bit about “meaningful discussion” just means he’s getting tired of his BS being identified for what it is.

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teheheh means a taunt? I would hate it if Jay banned someone for taunting and not actually making some serious debate points such as what myself and they both suck are doing. As Jay said lets stick to the debate.

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Does hehehe hurt your feelings, Thulsa. Boy! I never would have guessed it.

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FIRST UP! In the blue shorts, standing 5′8″, the liberal from out West, Jaaaaaaay Bookman!

In the red shorts, the radio show host full of hot air….. Neaaaaal Boortz!!

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40 ounces of beer!!??!! Do those come in six packs? I’d swear I bought some by mistake once. They were in a box…I thought they were long necks. They were HUGE!

No need to respond. They’re long gone…my Cajun neighbor drank ‘em all.

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Taxpayer,

I’m cool. Just waiting for some substantive debate- mainly want to hear what they both suck has to say. Are you going to provide any substantive debate or not? If Jay got onto me for I don’t know what then I’m certain he can get onto you also. So far I’ve not seen a single point made from you that’s not a slight or insult or some kind of put down. Perhaps Jay needs to be alerted to other bloggers like yourself that have nothing but petty insults and not very good ones at that.

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Even though you seem to think that you are quick draw mcgraw with the facts, you still push the myth about obama and spending. The truth and fact of the matter most of our trillion dollar debt was added during bush – fact. Another fact is that when clinton raised the tax rate in 94, every repub voted against it and predicted doom and what happened? More revenue paid down the debt and unemployment FELL – fact. So, here we are today with the same old repub party and their fear mongering about taxes, the repubs have been proven wrong and got us to where we are at, they have no credibility with balancing budgets, period…

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Perhaps Jay needs to be alerted to other bloggers like yourself that have nothing but petty insults and not very good ones at that.

Whatever floats your boat, Thulsa.

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“What was that? Discord in the blue party?”

shoot, that’s not even worth commenting on. Get back to us when you have some REAL news…like UNITY in the Democratic party. Now THAT would be worthy of comment.

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Headline: “Hollywood Movie on the Killing of Bin Laden”

They better have good security especially at the premier !

http://www.military.com/entertainment/movies/movie-news/hollywood-deal-for-film-of-bin-laden-killing

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Ed Shultz is a basically decent human being. Yes, he is passionate, and yes, he may have gone too far calling Ingram a slut. But much worse goes on over on Fox with more dangerous rhetoric. Did you see what Ted Nugent said, and how the Fox casters, including Huckebee, lavish praise on him. He called Hillary Clinton a bitch and said that Obama needs to suck the end of his machine gun. Now, that’s sick.

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lynnie:

If that’s true then he should have been on his last Fox show.

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“Since your up late check this out if you didn’t see my post this afternoon”

I just get the biggest kick out of people who have to beg others to read their posts.

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Doggone,

Jay had asked earlier today if folks were still experiencing the teleported posts so that’s why I labeled it as an uh oh.

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I don’t know why he’d even have to ask that. All you have to do is look at the timestamps.

That will not do. He would have to read posts and interpret whether or not they are in correct order.

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“That will not do”

Sure it will. If you go back and check you’ll find that when the timestamps are out of order so are the messages. Personally, I don’t think the problem is the timestamps, I think it’s probably something like the message queue for what we affectionately call the “blog god” I think the messages are timestamped correctly, but the “blog god” is not releasing them in the correct order for some strange reason.

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Then again, I could be a mind reader too or Jay is messin’ with us or someone else is messin’ with us. It’s the gremlins.

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TaxPayer

May 25th, 2011
10:17 pm

Perhaps Thulsa has no comments regarding that link in my 9:49 post.- Taxpayer

Taxpayer,

Thanks for the post. The article that you quoted is politifact from the St. Petersburg times.

And quite frankly the Doom has his own little truth o meter that detected a ahem, shall we say inaccuracy in the politifact report.

Finally, the 60 Plus ad also fails to mention new benefits for seniors under the health care law, such as a $250 rebate for prescription drugs purchased through Medicare Part D. (A statement on the 60 Plus website calls the drug rebate “the senior suckup.”) Currently, after an initial benefit period, enrollees are required to pay 100 percent of their prescription drug costs until they reach a level of catastrophic coverage. The rebate is meant to begin to close what is often called the doughnut hole in prescription drug coverage for beneficiaries. By 2020, Medicare will pay 75 percent of the total cost of generic prescription drug coverage in the gap, a marked improvement to the current program.

Um. No. Not quite. Enrollees are not required to pay 100 percent of their drug costs until they reach a level of catastrophic coverage- aka the doughnut hole which begins at $2840. They pay 93% of the generic costs and 50% of the brand name drug costs in the doughnut hole- so yes- they do have some coverage in the doughnut hole despite what politifact states about having zero coverage. They come out of the doughnut hole at $4500 at which point catastrophic coverage picks up. Bottom line is that politifact is not perfect either and they are wrong on this point.

On the rest of the article politifact is generally correct but their one big harping point is that this conservative group is harping on $500 billion being cut in Medicare. True enough $500 billion is being cut but it is being cut in the RATE OF GROWTH of medicare as politifact correctly states. The fascinating thing about this is how many times I’ve seen debates where Rebublicans insist on cutting the rate of growth of programs such as medicaid.

The predictable and dishonest response that we frequently see from the left is that Republicans want to cut medicare, SS, or whatever without telling the truth- that they simply want to cut the RATE OF GROWTH. I’ll give politifact credit for largely being right but even then they were factually inaccurate in their so called “FACT CHECKING”.

The Doom has spoken and he gives politifact a Mostly true rating but not completely true.

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Mick

Sorry for the late response.

Mick

May 25th, 2011
10:51 pm

Even though you seem to think that you are quick draw mcgraw with the facts, you still push the myth about obama and spending. The truth and fact of the matter most of our trillion dollar debt was added during bush – fact.- Mick

Mick they were both big spenders. I fully accept that Bush was terrible at spending. Why can you not say the same about Obama. The FY 2011 projected deficit is $1.65 trillion and his own administration projects deficits through 2020.

Another fact is that when clinton raised the tax rate in 94, every repub voted against it and predicted doom and what happened? More revenue paid down the debt and unemployment FELL – fact.- Mick

Mick, yes. And you should also acknowledge that most spending originates in Congress and the Republicans controlled Congress during the Clinton years. Clinton was a better president than Repubs give him credit for in my opinion. But come on Mick. This was the dawning of the age of the internet boom. Fidel Castro could have been in charge and the economy would have boomed. Clinton- and the Republicans in Congress- were both products of good timing.

So, here we are today with the same old repub party and their fear mongering about taxes, the repubs have been proven wrong and got us to where we are at, they have no credibility with balancing budgets, period…Mick

Mick,

This is where I disagree with you. The Dems could have raised taxes- they controlled both houses of Congress and the presidency. Why didn’t they? And just as you and the Dems said we needed massive spending to infuse the economy and avoid economic collapse its also important to remember that raising taxes and thus stifling job creation is also the last thing you want to do in the middle of a recession.

In any event this is my feeling on taxation issues. I think the cap gains tax right now is 15% unless I’m mistaken. I believe the long term rate that most effectively maximizes revenue to the govt is 17-18% according to the data I’ve seen which is readily available. If you adjust for extraordinary economic circumstances such as recessions you will see that at that level the treasury seems to bring in the most revenue. We should raise it soon now that the economy growing- albeit slowly.

Marginal tax rates on individuals could probably be raised to possibly Clinton era levels but no higher to bring in tax revenue to slice the deficit. I’ve no problem with this but I would want everyone to put aside the partisan politics and get to the level that realistically grows the economy while maximizing revenue to the govt.

What I do have a problem with is that the Dems absolutely refuse to regain control of out of control spending. Revenue collection is a problem but the overriding problem is the sheer volume of money our govt is spending. The sheer level of government spending is obscene. The original founders of this great country never intended for the federal govt to become so powerful. And yes- you can blame 2 expensive wars on Bush. I’m cool with that- its the truth. But a 3rd win isn’t helping out.

Anyway, there you have your answers.

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good gravy. I’m no fan of Laura Ingraham, but, DAMN, Ed, look behind you – see that line?

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btw, Dave – your 5:20 gave me a chuckle …

and good morning to you!!

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Please add Patrick McHenry to your Hall of Shame for his egregious,shameful treatment of Elizabeth Warren in his House sub-committee hearing.I hope his behavior generates scrutiny of his background,education,and motivation[who he's carrying water for].

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Saw Ed’s apology last night and I have to say it was genuine. Refreshing change from the non-apologies you usually see.

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URGH. Just found out one of my friends in Ringgold had his house BOSCHED by a 100+ year old oak in his front yard. and that’s BEFORE they’re about to be pummeled by a storm.

what the heck is going ON over there!!??

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Ed Schultz

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa! Oh, come on, Girlfriend, get real…you meant it when you said it and the only reason you’re saying anything now is ’cause you got called out on it…you should have just gone ahead and admitted that you’re not ready for prime time…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k80nW6AOhTs

Okay, off to the last day, staff barbecue, and looking forward to a few days of being able to come in here and waste away a few hours of my life with the day crew…

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“what the heck is going ON over there!!??”

Easy Answer: It’s Global Warming!

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really should’ve included this with my 7.13…

The anti-aborts love to cherry-pick Margaret Sanger’s history to portray her as an advocate of “black genocide” (a claim made, notably, by Herman Cain — “the objective was to put these centers in primarily black communities so they could help kill black babies before they came into the world”; it’s a claim for which he received a “Pants on Fire” award from PolitiFact. Yeah, Sanger gave a speech to a ladies’ auxiliary of the Klan. Yeah, she had an interest in eugenics. If that permanently taints Planned Parenthood to the n-th generation, then I’m waiting for Cain or the people who made the Johansson video to renounce their U.S. citizenship — after all, many of the Founding Fathers owned slaves, and slavery was enshrined in the Constitution. If you believe in permanent institutional guilt, it should apply to every institution, no?

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although, Jay, to be fair … I thought he was a Muslin.

http://rebello.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/000638.jpg

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they seem to think that clinics out to help the poor should be conveniently located in rich communities.

It’d be more convenient to bomb them that way, I guess.

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Jay used to have Atrios on his blogroll. I’ve sometimes wondered why he dropped it. hence this inside-baseball-y post to follow…

Sometimes I think it’s sentiments like this… Jay, I don’t think you necessary take this personally, but it probably hits a bit close to home, yes?

[T]he point of having smart political journalists is that those journalists should be smart enough to understand what they’re really saying. So, yes, if given their way Republicans would destroy Medicare. They would hand your social security money over to the banksters.

But for years our smart political journalists have covered for them.

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USMC – sorry, but I’d dance nekkid in the hallways if it reduced incidents of bullying. these teachers were making a valid point – that there’s no one right/wrong – there’s variety in nature – and that variety should be celebrated (or at least respected)

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I am especially disappointed by Ed’s remarks, but accept his apology.

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Almost a tad too much humility from ed. Rush? Hannity? Ever see or hear an apology from those guys? Especially rush when he made fun of michael j. fox, what did he do? As always, the cowards way out – we actually didn’t hear what he said, we twisted it..uh-huh….

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Can we add this knucklehead to the Hall of Shame:

During the House discussion there was predictably some disagreement over whether excluding rape pregnancies from coverage was perhaps the sort of callous treatment a recently violated woman shouldn’t have to deal with. Here’s DeGraaf’s response to Rep. Barbara Bollier’s challenge, as reported by the McPherson Sentinel:
Rep. Pete DeGraaf, a Mulvane Republican who supports the bill, told her: “We do need to plan ahead, don’t we, in life?”

Bollier asked him, “And so women need to plan ahead for issues that they have no control over with pregnancy?”

DeGraaf drew groans of protest from some House members when he responded, “I have a spare tire on my car.”

“I also have life insurance,” he added. “I have a lot of things that I plan ahead for.”

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USMC – just don’t picture me dancing nekkid to “too legit to quit”

funny thing – Hammer pants seem to be making a (hopefully short-lived) fashion come-back!

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I would like to nominate Jay Bookman for the Hall of Shame.

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Let’s see if Edwards is man enough to admit his wrong doings and take a plea deal (if it’s offered). I’m thinking his ego is too big and he’ll try his luck at a trial.

I guess 1 article about a Democrat every 2-3 weeks is good enough, Jay. Good job. You’re still a hack, though.

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Can we pull off to the side of the road. I am feeling motion sickness from all of these Posts reading my simple, little conservative mind and answering before I post

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“just don’t picture me dancing nekkid to “too legit to quit””

too late

“funny thing – Hammer pants seem to be making a (hopefully short-lived) fashion come-back!”

Please no! But I can handle the tight jeans that women wore in the 70’s; you know the Gloria Vanderbilt, et al “above the hip” variety. Boy I was a sucker for those

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usmc

I preferred the micro mini skirt…

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Well, you just can’t fix stupid.

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DeGraaf drew groans of protest from some House members when he responded, “I have a spare tire on my car.”

“I also have life insurance,” he added. “I have a lot of things that I plan ahead for.”

What an idiot.

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Oh, come on, Girlfriend, get real…you meant it when you said it

how can someone know when it’s real or not? I think it’s obvious what’s in his heart and I don’t think that changes the next day.

Ok, two very different people who’ve said essentially the same thing.

First off, to address PP’s point—by “real” I mean the content of the message being delivered. There were no weasel words, nothing even verging into the “if I offended anyone”; he even pre-emptively cut off any talk that it was somehow excused because it was just ad-libbing on the radio show, outside of his msnbc tv gig. That’s what was I perceived as “real.”

As to whether it was truly heartfelt, actually meant or not? I don’t claim to know.

But I’d like to know how you and J-Nix seem to know for certain what lurks inside this man’s soul, particularly when you’re basing it on a 53-second audio clip.

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“These people speak for a living so how can someone know when it’s real or not? ” You hit the nail on the head. We have allowed these guys margin because they are half journalist and half entertainment. When they make a comment that is off the line of logic of most Americans it was entertainment. They defend their position by entertaining, to some intellectually challenged, not by facts. The KKK, I’m sure was started with a few racial jokes. There are a huge number of people in the country that have no mental compass. They were brought up thinking what they heard on radio or television was gospel truth. The news agencies respected that trust and tried to deliver the news with some professionalism, they had a code. Broadcasting today is like pro wrestling. And there is a huge number of people out there who think what they are seeing in that ring is real. And there are many that know it is not real but enjoy the make believe world more than the real one. And like wrestling some people make more money doing this than in a real job which will always encourage more join in.

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GT, well said, they are all in it for the money and as I stated earlier if someones very lucrative job was at stake they could sell you the London Bridge in their apology.

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So is the new verb for having your house crushed by a 100 foot oak tree, “bosched” — I’m not quite sure if I’m comfortable with that.

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Wow, Mladic fianally caught

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Dave — “Mary Elizabeth, science is that which can be proven true repetitively and without interpretation.”

No. You are clearly not a scientist and didn’t grow up with a professional scientist in the house, as I did.

Science doesn’t claim to *prove* anything true; simply to establish that, under the same test conditions and circumstances, replicable and predictable results can be achieved. Science is constantly revisiting and revising its own findings, because nothing — not even things previously accepted as valid — is beyond questioning, retesting and reevaluating.

Science is self-correcting and does not claim to have all the answers. Dogmatism claims to have them, but won’t bother explaining or testing itself.

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stupid is as stupid does….enough said.

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maybe the liberal hero (((((Rachael Maddow)))) can step in and take over for Schultz.

She’s kind of cute for a boy.

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