John Edwards, Ed Schultz and Eric Bolling in Hall of Shame
I’d like to propose three items to include in the file labeled “Wrong is wrong,” and you have to pay the consequences.
First, from the WSJ:
“WASHINGTON — Justice Department prosecutors and lawyers for former Sen. John Edwards are in last-ditch plea agreement talks that could avert felony charges over alleged campaign-finance violations, people familiar with the matter said.
If the talks fail Wednesday, Justice Department prosecutors are expected to seek a grand-jury indictment against Mr. Edwards, these people say….
Prosecutors have been examining whether donors to various political entities affiliated with Mr. Edwards funneled money to a woman with whom Mr. Edwards had an extramarital affair and with whom he fathered a child, these people said. More than $1 million was allegedly paid to the mistress and to an Edwards aide who Mr. Edwards initially said was the child’s father. The money was allegedly aimed at keeping the affair quiet and avoiding problems for Mr. Edwards’s 2008 campaign.”
Edwards has been trying to squirm and wriggle his way out of accountability for this lurid mess for several years now. The gig’s up, dude. Time to face the music, although whatever the law hands out in penalties can’t fully square accounts.
And in less important but still notable matters, MSNBC host Ed Schultz and Fox Business News host Eric Bolling are both in hot water — and deservedly so — for their rhetorical excesses. In a rant on his radio show, Schultz called conservative talk-radio host Laura Ingraham a “right-wing slut” and a “talk-show slut.” On Twitter, Bolling condemned President Obama for being in Ireland “chugging 40s” instead of returning home to deal with the tragedy in Joplin. (Bolling is also the genius who accused Obama of spending $200 million a day on his trip to India, telling people that he wasn’t making up that fact because he found it on the Internet.)
I don’t know what’s going to happen to either man, and in a larger sense it almost doesn’t matter. What matters is that we live in a culture where there is a market for such viciousness.
– Jay Bookman
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Obama is drunk again --
May 25th, 2011
9:25 pm
Apparently there’s a photo going viral that shows Obama sniffing cocaine….
Uh oh…
Maybe it’s real, maybe it isn’t….
Dave R.
May 25th, 2011
9:26 pm
“Dave @ 9:17 please see chart @ 8:58. Goodnight.”
Well, if Sooth’s whole argument is based on a Crayola picture, it MUST be correct.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
May 25th, 2011
9:28 pm
Thulsa Doom, You’re on, the debate is yours but don’t be surprised if Disgusted is a no show.
Thulsa Doom
May 25th, 2011
9:28 pm
The Doom dissects the talking points of the ignorant and the hapless!
Why should I pay to fund Medicare benefits that regular Medicare subscribers don’t have?- Disgusted
Disgusted, Clearly you are ignorant of that fact that nearly everybody that qualifies for regular medicare also qualifies for a Medicare advantage plan if they want one.
Why should my Medicare contributions go to wealthy subscribers who can afford to kick in an extra 20 bucks a month so that they can have the Mercedes Benz of all Medicare plans?- Disgusted
Wealthy subscribers? Really? That’s news to me and my hundreds of Medicare Advantage plan customers. Most of them take an Advantage plan because they can’t afford a far more expensive private supplement plan.
Hell with those spoiled, wealthy people. Let them have the same Medicare the rest of us will have.-Disgusted
The spoiled, wealthy people have the exact same Medicare that anybody who doesn’t want a Medicare Advantage plan have which is original Medicare. They simply chose to purchase a separate, expensive private supplement plan to cover the costs that Original medicare does not cover.
But keep your talking point, Recon.- Disgusted.
And you keep your ignorance talking points at home disgusted. Its obvious that whatever misinformed trash you read had to have come from some loony left wing site like the Huffington post.
Exactly where did you get these nonsensical ideas about Medicare??? Source please?????
Soothsayer
May 25th, 2011
9:28 pm
“Well, if Sooth’s whole argument is based on a Crayola picture, it MUST be correct.”
“The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.”
– Winston Churchill
TaxPayer
May 25th, 2011
9:29 pm
Let’see. For the chart challenged, I think if that chunk in Figure 1 called Bush-era tax cuts is removed then you can move that “current deficit projection” line down to a lower numeric value and that corresponds to a reduction in the deficit and national debt.
Dave R.
May 25th, 2011
9:32 pm
And Crayola drawings trying to explain a complicated economic situation is about all Sooth and Taxxie can handle.
jm
May 25th, 2011
9:32 pm
USMC dawg 9:18 – don’t distract libs with facts.
Might Righty – Bush transgressions (in my book anyway): renditions, torture, and most importantly, significantly upping surveillance. Now the last one may be fully justifiable on national security grounds. But there needs to be damn good oversight by a separate branch of government in my book.
I see Obama trampling more on economic rights so far, more so than personal liberties.
josef nix
May 25th, 2011
9:32 pm
DAVE
“josef, I think our definition of “science” has evolved since that time”
What I was doing was giving the DENOTATIVE of the lexical entry, the CONNOTATIVE is something else…it is not our definition of “science” which continues to evolve, but “science” itself…that is why I made the point…it is an ongoing process, as is the allegorical relationship of that which we are “knowing” in relation to that which we are “experiencing..” They need not be in conflict, but dealt with within their proper perspective…
That’s why I am such a Maimonidean…as I said, he laid the question to rest, imho, 700 years ago…these are the two spheres of the human search for enlightenment, the earthly and the spiritual…and as I “knowledge” of the one develops and evovlves, so too does the other…
The “problem,” as I see it, is when the acolytes of the one claim to have “the answers” and invalidate the other…it is a balance between the two, ever expanding…
jm
May 25th, 2011
9:33 pm
Obama is drunk again – it would explain why he thinks its 2008
Thulsa Doom
May 25th, 2011
9:33 pm
Soothsayer
May 25th, 2011
9:28 pm
“Well, if Sooth’s whole argument is based on a Crayola picture, it MUST be correct.”
“The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.”
– Winston Churchill
Great post sooth. Kinda like your so called “truth” that 9/11 was an inside job done by the Bush administration.
Got another one for you on truth that pertains to liberal walls of lies.
Truth goes through 3 stages- At first it is mocked and ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Then at last it is accepted as a self–evident truth. Perhaps you will one day recognize the self evident truth that the Bush administration did not blow up the twin towers in some kind of loony, grandiose conspiracy.
Soothsayer
May 25th, 2011
9:35 pm
Soothsayer: Bush tax cuts and wars in Afghanistan and Iraq account for the lion’s share of our budget deficit.
Dave R.: Cheeseburgers are on sale at McDonalds!
Soothsayer: Wha-a-a-a-at?!!
Dave R.: Cheeseburger are on sale at McDonalds!
Soothsayer: Come back when you have something to say.
They BOTH suck
May 25th, 2011
9:35 pm
@ Dave R
What can be said that you just called names and didn’t have the intellect and honesty to debate Taxpayers last post?
We do not agree on much in terms of the what I read from your posts, however you beg the question today………….. even-though I have read some thought out posts from you at times
Mary Elizabeth
May 25th, 2011
9:35 pm
buck@gon @ 9:12
“I’m curious Mary Elizabeth. I don’t mean to intrude….
But….
I wonder. What is science to you, the etymology of the word, what you think of science as a field vs. say other disciplines of knowledge? What would you consider other disciplines of knowledge.”
——————————-
Buck@gon, you asked sincere questions of me. I will try to respond to you in a few days. Those are in-depth questions that you posed. I am a little tired now, so I would not do the answers to them justice, tonight. But I will respond to you, later. Thanks for your interest in my thoughts.
Have a nice evening.
Thulsa Doom
May 25th, 2011
9:36 pm
Taxpayer,
Perhaps you have something you would like to add to our Medicare conversation? Perhaps you would like to erect a paper wall of liberal lies about Medicare in the same fashion as disgusted did. And perhaps then I will likewise lob a conservative missile of truth at your paper wall of liberal lies. Go ahead- make my day!
jm
May 25th, 2011
9:36 pm
“You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.”
This is getting very tiresome. Oh yes, and it sounds like Stephen Colbert talking.
TaxPayer
May 25th, 2011
9:36 pm
The Doom dissects the talking points of the ignorant and the hapless!
How novel, this self-dissection The Doom will now attempt. Are the UTube cameras rolling.
jm
May 25th, 2011
9:37 pm
Cocaine use in WH. Not by Obama…… oops. Must be Obama’s dealer.
http://i.imgur.com/Vf7DA.png
josef nix
May 25th, 2011
9:37 pm
Thulsa…
See? We can TOO have an intellectual discussion…
So, what is your opinion of the Maimonidean-Jungian-Freudian, Josef-Dave-Mary Elizabeth paradox of the meaning of life?
TaxPayer
May 25th, 2011
9:39 pm
Dave R’s 9:32 pretty much sums him up. If anything, Dave R is predictable.
Obama is drunk again --
May 25th, 2011
9:40 pm
jm – he’s skinny as a rail….
Soothsayer
May 25th, 2011
9:41 pm
“Kinda like your so called “truth” that 9/11 was an inside job done by the Bush administration.”
Forget my so-called truth how about these architects and engineers who may, as it turns out know a little more about these things than you do. By the way, they agree with me.
Obama is drunk again --
May 25th, 2011
9:42 pm
jm —– The link I wanted to post has been scrubbed already…
LMFAO again !!!
oldguy
May 25th, 2011
9:43 pm
Just got in;
Interesting, so Jay equivicates the words of nonelected pundits to the dispicable activities (planned misuse of contributions to hide behavior, fraud, lying, etc} of an elected official (and presidential candidate).
Edwards is slime, and always has been. I know people who have known him since he started law practice in Raleigh. He was and is an ambulance chaser. He made his millions taking problem pregency cases and “looking pretty” for the jury and playing to their emotions. A good friend (and the OB/GYN who delivered my younger daughter) quit delivering babies because the cost of insurance got so high that it cost him to do deliveries (due directly to Edwards lawsuits). Raleigh had fewer delivery OB/GYMs per 100,000 population than Bombay India!!! (directly due to Edwards lawsuits).
Yes, he is pretty! Women swoon, but he has NO integity!!
Thulsa Doom
May 25th, 2011
9:43 pm
Netanyahu= man giving a lecture
Obama = receiving a lecture.
I woulda said boy receiving a lecture but you know how some of the hyper sensitives out there woulda said it was a racist comment if I had used the word boy.
RW-(the original)
May 25th, 2011
9:45 pm
Indian pudding the same as grits?
Dusty
That wasn’t me bringing that news to the board. I’ve never even heard of the stuff, but I wouldn’t put it past these blog gremlins to start moving commentary around to other boxes if they’ve tired of just moving the boxes.
TaxPayer
May 25th, 2011
9:49 pm
Did someone say “Medicare Advantage” Well, that was an interesting read. I’m sure Thulsa can explain the discrepencies between it and his own “truth”.
They BOTH suck
May 25th, 2011
9:49 pm
Thulsa
make all the comparisons you like
But not once did Netanyahu say stop GIVING us aid, stop selling us technology and stop having your FBI and CIA corporate with our IDF and Mosad………… or did I miss something
You stupid fvks are all mad because Obama said what Presidents have been negotiating in some form or fashion for 40 yrs
Fox news and right wing pundits originally tried to spin it has it had NEVER been ever even implied.. it took all of ONE minute to debunk it than they went to well it was never said publicly
And yet YOU still cry
Doobie Bros wrote a song about YOUR ilk
“what a fool believes”
hahhhhahahhahhhahahahah
Thulsa Doom
May 25th, 2011
9:50 pm
Josef Nix,
I was hoping to talk about Newcomb’s paradox. Speaking of paradoxes
“There is a place where Contrarieties are equally True… .”
- William Blake (1757-1827) – from “Milton” Book the Second, Plate 30
Soothsayer
May 25th, 2011
9:50 pm
Thulsa: just as I expected — nothing to say. All hat and no cattle. Goodnight.
TaxPayer
May 25th, 2011
9:52 pm
I woulda said boy receiving a lecture but you know how some of the hyper sensitives out there woulda said it was a racist comment if I had used the word boy
“Boys will be boys” comes to mind when reading your posts, Thulsa. Of course I am assuming that you are of the male gender.
josef nix
May 25th, 2011
9:53 pm
Thulsa…
And we shall continue this at a later date, then…and contrarities do not, per force, equate with polarities…
I leave y’all to the name calling and sniping…end of the school year lunch tomorrow and have to make sure the hot barbecued sausage are crock-potting properly…
Dave R.
May 25th, 2011
9:54 pm
TBS, I really don’t bother much with TaxPayer. He/she/it never answers questions, never replies to challenges, and never provides any meaningful discussion to any debate.
So I do not waste time with him/her/it.
You’ll notice that his/her/it’s answer to my reply to Sooth was completely in ignorance to my earlier post; that being that the Bush Tax cuts being repealed would NOT reduce the debt, and would only make a small dent in the deficit, which is fact.
Of course, the first thing he/she/it claims is that the debt will be reduced, against all facts to the contrary.
It is why I do not respect him/her/it in any way shape or form, and do not engage in debate with anyone who does not at least try to use a modicum of intelligence.
Got it? Good!
Thulsa Doom
May 25th, 2011
9:54 pm
They BOTH suck,
Sir. I never disputed any of what you said in your post about what previous presidents had said and yadda yadda yadda. Where did you read that in?
I just thought it was funny watching Bibi take him to school. Although I will admit I actually felt a little sorry for Obama. It was like being dressed down by your dad when you said or did something bad as a kid. Why you so sensitive?
Obviously Bibi and the Israelis agree with you- that Obama said nothing controversial when you mentioned the pre-1967 borders. Right?
Thulsa Doom
May 25th, 2011
9:56 pm
TaxPayer
May 25th, 2011
9:52 pm
Taxpayer, I can assure you that if I was a woman I would still disrespect you. Perhaps you need to google my handle. Then you’ll have an idea as to what kind of a bmf you’re talking to. Got that tough guy?
They BOTH suck
May 25th, 2011
9:58 pm
Thulsa
Just because the PM got mad that a US Pres said publicly what others before him R and D had already said in private
I don’t CARE…….
Many on the right are PISSED or it wouldn’t have been the out cry that came from it
Not given Palestinians a pass for their BS, but for Israel to be called on the carpet is NOT the end of the world
Thulsa Doom
May 25th, 2011
10:00 pm
Taxpayer and sooth,
I’ll admit it. I blog beat you guys down with some biting posts but I also made some valid points on Medicare. I’ve yet to see any of you make some valid points regarding a topic- just sniping. Taxpayer- you wanna try? Go ahead. Give it a try. I’ll hurt you with facts but I’ll take it easy on ya. I already asked if you had some valid points on the medicare discussion points I made and you had no ponts- you simply sniped.
They BOTH suck
May 25th, 2011
10:01 pm
Thulsa
Name the insurance company that is currently taking new clients over 65 with preexisting medical conditions at rates that the Ryan plan lays out…
Not saying changes are not require and fast, but lets start with the FACTS
Midori
May 25th, 2011
10:02 pm
big ed is apologizing now
Thulsa Doom
May 25th, 2011
10:03 pm
Dave R.
May 25th, 2011
9:54 pm
TBS, I really don’t bother much with TaxPayer. He/she/it never answers questions, never replies to challenges, and never provides any meaningful discussion to any debate.
So I do not waste time with him/her/it.
Dave R.,
I’ beginning to find that out. The man never has any valid points about anything. Ever. Just sniping and then accusing others of sniping. He wouldn’t know a fact if it bit him in the ass.
Kamchak
May 25th, 2011
10:04 pm
Tick…tick…tick….
Dave R.
May 25th, 2011
10:05 pm
TBS, in the big scheme of things the $3 billion or so we give in aid to Israel is small potatoes.
In addition, the information between the CIA, FBI and Mossad is not a one-way street, you know.
If you don’t think we aren’t getting valuable intelligence from them in regards to anti-terrorist activities, think again.
The ‘67 borders are NOT a starting point, TBS. The naivete displayed by this President, and the sophomoric way he made it public just before yet ANOTHER state visit by Netanyahu shows that he is either way, way over his head (no surprise there), or just wants to stick it to Israel.
Until Hamas tears up the Unity Agreement and publicly proclaims Israel’s right to exist, there can be no negotiations. Ever. As Bibi said the other day, “What are we going to discuss with them, the method of our immolation?”
@@
May 25th, 2011
10:06 pm
HEY! My post misappeared.
Although she shouldn’t have to, I’m pretty sure Ingraham can weather the insult…she’s weathered worse than being called a slut. I can recall the left’s attack on “her balding condition”. Turns out it was due to chemotherapy. Didn’t stop the left from taking a cheap shot.
“Chugging 40s”? Somebody’ll have to explain. My knowledge of booze is limited.
josef:
All right, overly critical of the Bruin’s bias…Edwards, Democrat, Schultz-MSNBC, left wing media, Bolling, FOX…that’s two-to-one…just keepin’ ‘em honest…
jay offers a bone of little consequence and you’re impressed???
You’re too easy.
(ISH)
Dave R.
May 25th, 2011
10:07 pm
@@, chugging 40 oz. of beer.
Thulsa Doom
May 25th, 2011
10:07 pm
They BOTH suck
May 25th, 2011
10:01 pm
Thulsa
Name the insurance company that is currently taking new clients over 65 with preexisting medical conditions at rates that the Ryan plan lays out…
Not saying changes are not require and fast, but lets start with the FACTS
Few if any of them do. You know that. The reason they don’t is because Medicare picks up at 65. It costs the Medicare system roughly a grand a month to insure each and every beneficiary. Now if we went to the voucher system you do know that it would necessarily eliminate the pre-existing conditions similar to what Medicare advantage does already.
Likewise folks going on Medicare at 65 can get a medicare supplement during their first 6 months of eligibility with guaranteed issuability- there is no underwriting. And this has been that way well before the new health law.
So assuming the Ryan plan cannot deny people due to pre-existing conditions what is it with the plan you object to?
@@
May 25th, 2011
10:11 pm
Oh lawd!
It’s become all too funny. How many times have I hit refresh only to find Kamchak “tick, tick, ticking” away?
Too many. He’s like our resident timekeeper. A stopwatch or sorts.
Thulsa Doom
May 25th, 2011
10:12 pm
@@,
We gots to have a clown jester for our friendly little blog
Jay
May 25th, 2011
10:14 pm
Thulsa, one last time. If your purpose in posting here is to prove yourself the baddest ass in town, go prove it in the next town.
They BOTH suck
May 25th, 2011
10:14 pm
Ok Dave R
Was it naive for Bush Sr, Clinton and Bush Jr to negotiate and speak of the same thing in some form or fashion or you just jumping on the right wing cry wagon?
If Israel was embarrassed so much they could deny US money and intel on the spot
US should be calling out ALL countries we give money and intel too
Too bad we do not and both Parties bow to BS and lobbying from the interest who support the countries we give our tax money too
I’m calling out ALL of them not just Israel………….
Dave R.
May 25th, 2011
10:14 pm
And with that, I’m calling it a day. Red Sox kicked Cleveland Indian a$$, and I made me some money.
Night, all.
Doggone/GA
May 25th, 2011
10:14 pm
“Just because the PM got mad that a US Pres said publicly what others before him R and D had already said in private”
He didn’t get mad, he just wanted it to seem like he was. Standard operating procedure. In the speech he gave, he said – in different words – EXACTLY the same thing that Obama said. I caught it the moment I heard him say it. The borders are the borders, as they have been since 1967. Any changes will have to be negotiated. That’s what Obama said, that’s what Bibi said. Same thing, no difference.
They BOTH suck
May 25th, 2011
10:14 pm
Thulsa
Which ones are signing up to do what you say and are publicly advertising it?
Doggone/GA
May 25th, 2011
10:15 pm
“hehehe”
TaxPayer – you know what the translation of that is, don’t you? “He’s not afraid to call my BS what it is: BS”
Thulsa Doom
May 25th, 2011
10:16 pm
Jay, I’ll play nice but I’m not being any meaner than anyone else on here. Why am I being singled out?
TaxPayer
May 25th, 2011
10:16 pm
TBS, I really don’t bother much with TaxPayer. He/she/it never answers questions, never replies to challenges, and never provides any meaningful discussion to any debate.
hehehe
TaxPayer
May 25th, 2011
10:17 pm
Perhaps Thulsa has no comments regarding that link in my 9:49 post.
Thulsa Doom
May 25th, 2011
10:18 pm
They both suck,
What on earth are you talking about? Are you talking about the Ryan plan and which companies are signing up for a plan that doesn’t exist? Please be specific in what you want to know or what your point is?
They BOTH suck
May 25th, 2011
10:20 pm
Thulsa
earlier…. I believe you made reference to Medicare
I responded by saying which ins companies are currently taking new clients that would fit into the Ryan plan when it comes to age, conditions and proposed voucher payments
TaxPayer
May 25th, 2011
10:23 pm
Doggone,
I use the “hehehe” as a taunt. It means nothing else to me. Other times I’ll use
or even embed some sarcasm in my remarks or a little jab here or there.
Doggone/GA
May 25th, 2011
10:29 pm
“I use the “hehehe” as a taunt”
Yeah, I know…I guess I wasn’t clear enough that I was talking about the comment you were responding to! In case you haven’t noticed, that bit about “meaningful discussion” just means he’s getting tired of his BS being identified for what it is.
Thulsa Doom
May 25th, 2011
10:29 pm
They both suck,
You’re speculating on a plan that doesn’t exist and won’t exist because it won’t pass. I’ll say it one more time to try to answer the question that I think you are trying to get at.
If Ryan’s plan passes you would have to naturally assume that as with Medicare Advantage plans that there is no underwriting- everyone qualifies except perhaps those with ESRD which would necessarily go under a different type plan.
If they are at all like the Medicare Advantage plans which in all likelihood is how they would be modeled then your questions are irrelevant. Age, physical conditions wouldn’t matter and no cherry picking for healthy seniors would be allowed.
Different plans would be offered with premiums commensurate with the plan benefits but the plan premiums and benefits would’nt be allowed to discriminate on the basis of health, age, etc. That way if a senior in pretty good health wanted a higher deductible plan that cost lower than the actual voucher amount he could take that plan and pocket the difference if that is allowed. Likewise a senior in poor health might opt for a more comprehensive plan that has a low deducible, low co-pays or co-insurance, etc.
Thulsa Doom
May 25th, 2011
10:30 pm
teheheh means a taunt? I would hate it if Jay banned someone for taunting and not actually making some serious debate points such as what myself and they both suck are doing. As Jay said lets stick to the debate.
jm
May 25th, 2011
10:37 pm
Jay, I think you should get some apple programmer to provide some sort of “debate competition” board where people can become charicatures, face off mono-a-mono, and let people vote on the winner.
Though we know the lib will always win due to certain skewing in the local population political orientation. Maybe we could give conservatives 2 votes
TaxPayer
May 25th, 2011
10:37 pm
Does hehehe hurt your feelings, Thulsa. Boy! I never would have guessed it.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
May 25th, 2011
10:39 pm
Granny:
Not sure if you are still up out there but I heard on the radio today why Obama is against funding “space exploration” as Kennedy did, etc.
NASA’s job is to reach out to Muslims and ……….. well ……….. there are no Muslims on the moon.
jm
May 25th, 2011
10:39 pm
FIRST UP! In the blue shorts, standing 5′8″, the liberal from out West, Jaaaaaaay Bookman!
In the red shorts, the radio show host full of hot air….. Neaaaaal Boortz!!
Doggone/GA
May 25th, 2011
10:41 pm
“Neaaaaal Boortz!!”
Ain’t gonna happen. Boortz has had ample opportunity to debate Jay. He won’t do it. Not here, not on his show, not in person. He’s had chances several times. It’s gotten where he doesn’t even have the courage to say No anymore. He just never responds.
@@
May 25th, 2011
10:43 pm
40 ounces of beer!!??!! Do those come in six packs? I’d swear I bought some by mistake once. They were in a box…I thought they were long necks. They were HUGE!
No need to respond. They’re long gone…my Cajun neighbor drank ‘em all.
Doggone/GA
May 25th, 2011
10:44 pm
Of course, now that I’ve got the thought in mind…it might be amusing for someone to call in to Boortz’s show and ask why he’s afraid to debate Jay…and then let us know how fast Boortz hung up!
Thulsa Doom
May 25th, 2011
10:48 pm
Taxpayer,
I’m cool. Just waiting for some substantive debate- mainly want to hear what they both suck has to say. Are you going to provide any substantive debate or not? If Jay got onto me for I don’t know what then I’m certain he can get onto you also. So far I’ve not seen a single point made from you that’s not a slight or insult or some kind of put down. Perhaps Jay needs to be alerted to other bloggers like yourself that have nothing but petty insults and not very good ones at that.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
May 25th, 2011
10:48 pm
#1 Headline: “Gates warns of ‘hollowing effect’ ”
“Outgoing Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, who cut major weapons programs during 4 1/2 years at the Pentagon, is warning against “hollowing out” the U.S. military through unwise spending cuts planned by the Obama administration. Published 8:45 p.m. May 24, 2011.”
What was that? Discord in the ranks?
#2 Headline: “Top Democrats criticize Obama’s Israel policy”
“Now the president — whom critics often accuse of employing a play-it-safe governing style in which he waits for others to take the lead — is largely isolated politically in raising the issue of 1967 boundaries.”
What was that? Discord in the blue party?
Mick
May 25th, 2011
10:51 pm
Even though you seem to think that you are quick draw mcgraw with the facts, you still push the myth about obama and spending. The truth and fact of the matter most of our trillion dollar debt was added during bush – fact. Another fact is that when clinton raised the tax rate in 94, every repub voted against it and predicted doom and what happened? More revenue paid down the debt and unemployment FELL – fact. So, here we are today with the same old repub party and their fear mongering about taxes, the repubs have been proven wrong and got us to where we are at, they have no credibility with balancing budgets, period…
TaxPayer
May 25th, 2011
10:53 pm
Thulsa,
Try my 10:17.
TaxPayer
May 25th, 2011
10:54 pm
Perhaps Jay needs to be alerted to other bloggers like yourself that have nothing but petty insults and not very good ones at that.
Whatever floats your boat, Thulsa.
TaxPayer
May 25th, 2011
10:55 pm
Unity in the Democratic Party. As in lock step behavior! As in just say NO! I Object!
Doggone/GA
May 25th, 2011
10:56 pm
“What was that? Discord in the blue party?”
shoot, that’s not even worth commenting on. Get back to us when you have some REAL news…like UNITY in the Democratic party. Now THAT would be worthy of comment.
Mick
May 25th, 2011
10:56 pm
doom
Last post (10:51)was for you….
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
May 25th, 2011
10:57 pm
Headline: “Hollywood Movie on the Killing of Bin Laden”
They better have good security especially at the premier !
http://www.military.com/entertainment/movies/movie-news/hollywood-deal-for-film-of-bin-laden-killing
Jay's Brain
May 25th, 2011
10:57 pm
My demorat bosses made me write about that has been john edwards now
that he is totally irrelevant and we haven’t found a way to get him out of
the charges. Said to add in fat ed as he has become another embarrassment for
our propaganda machine. I threw in bolling as I have to do all I can to try and help
drag down that ever so popular Fox news.
Thanks for reading my fellow sheep. Now I must get back to see if my idol obama
has yet to do the review of all federal cabinets and cut the fat and waste out as
he repeatedly promised to do while campaigning. ( of course I know he hasn’t and me and
my fellow flock of left wings zealots don’t want him to).
I will have another left wing opinion piece in the morning or as soon as msnbc or DNP leaders send me the right wing target of the day.
lynnie gal
May 25th, 2011
10:59 pm
Ed Shultz is a basically decent human being. Yes, he is passionate, and yes, he may have gone too far calling Ingram a slut. But much worse goes on over on Fox with more dangerous rhetoric. Did you see what Ted Nugent said, and how the Fox casters, including Huckebee, lavish praise on him. He called Hillary Clinton a bitch and said that Obama needs to suck the end of his machine gun. Now, that’s sick.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
May 25th, 2011
10:59 pm
Doggone:
Since your up late check this out if you didn’t see my post this afternoon.
Can you figure it out?
Quite possibly the “ABSOLUTE BEST” trick(s) I’ve ever seen!
Make sure you watch it right to the end, even if you don’t understand a word anyone’s saying.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=hwVy_2eOfsE#t=78
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
May 25th, 2011
11:00 pm
lynnie:
If that’s true then he should have been on his last Fox show.
TaxPayer
May 25th, 2011
11:00 pm
Uh Oh, Jay. I wrote and posted my 10:55 after Doggone’s 10:56 but it showed up before her post and with an earlier time stamp to boot.
Doggone/GA
May 25th, 2011
11:01 pm
“Since your up late check this out if you didn’t see my post this afternoon”
I just get the biggest kick out of people who have to beg others to read their posts.
Doggone/GA
May 25th, 2011
11:03 pm
“Uh Oh, Jay”
No “Uh Oh” – it’s been going on for close to a month now. It’s happened before. It’ll happen again sometime. They’ll get it fixed eventually…for a while.
TaxPayer
May 25th, 2011
11:03 pm
Doggone,
Jay had asked earlier today if folks were still experiencing the teleported posts so that’s why I labeled it as an uh oh.
Doggone/GA
May 25th, 2011
11:10 pm
“Jay had asked earlier today if folks were still experiencing the teleported posts ”
I don’t know why he’d even have to ask that. All you have to do is look at the timestamps.
TaxPayer
May 25th, 2011
11:15 pm
I don’t know why he’d even have to ask that. All you have to do is look at the timestamps.
That will not do. He would have to read posts and interpret whether or not they are in correct order.
TaxPayer
May 25th, 2011
11:19 pm
If you go back and check you’ll find that when the timestamps are out of order so are the messages.
I agree but Jay would have to read and understand each message in order to make that determination and it would definitely be easier for the bloggers to spot that and report it than for Jay to do it.
Doggone/GA
May 25th, 2011
11:20 pm
“That will not do”
Sure it will. If you go back and check you’ll find that when the timestamps are out of order so are the messages. Personally, I don’t think the problem is the timestamps, I think it’s probably something like the message queue for what we affectionately call the “blog god” I think the messages are timestamped correctly, but the “blog god” is not releasing them in the correct order for some strange reason.
Doggone/GA
May 25th, 2011
11:23 pm
“It’s the gremlins”
Yeah, in our house we blame stuff like that on the gremlins too. Gotta hit the hay, nite.
TaxPayer
May 25th, 2011
11:24 pm
Then again, I could be a mind reader too or Jay is messin’ with us or someone else is messin’ with us. It’s the gremlins.
BADA BING
May 25th, 2011
11:27 pm
Time stamps,don’t need them as all my words are timeless.
Thulsa Doom
May 25th, 2011
11:29 pm
TaxPayer
May 25th, 2011
10:17 pm
Perhaps Thulsa has no comments regarding that link in my 9:49 post.- Taxpayer
Taxpayer,
Thanks for the post. The article that you quoted is politifact from the St. Petersburg times.
And quite frankly the Doom has his own little truth o meter that detected a ahem, shall we say inaccuracy in the politifact report.
Finally, the 60 Plus ad also fails to mention new benefits for seniors under the health care law, such as a $250 rebate for prescription drugs purchased through Medicare Part D. (A statement on the 60 Plus website calls the drug rebate “the senior suckup.”) Currently, after an initial benefit period, enrollees are required to pay 100 percent of their prescription drug costs until they reach a level of catastrophic coverage. The rebate is meant to begin to close what is often called the doughnut hole in prescription drug coverage for beneficiaries. By 2020, Medicare will pay 75 percent of the total cost of generic prescription drug coverage in the gap, a marked improvement to the current program.
Um. No. Not quite. Enrollees are not required to pay 100 percent of their drug costs until they reach a level of catastrophic coverage- aka the doughnut hole which begins at $2840. They pay 93% of the generic costs and 50% of the brand name drug costs in the doughnut hole- so yes- they do have some coverage in the doughnut hole despite what politifact states about having zero coverage. They come out of the doughnut hole at $4500 at which point catastrophic coverage picks up. Bottom line is that politifact is not perfect either and they are wrong on this point.
On the rest of the article politifact is generally correct but their one big harping point is that this conservative group is harping on $500 billion being cut in Medicare. True enough $500 billion is being cut but it is being cut in the RATE OF GROWTH of medicare as politifact correctly states. The fascinating thing about this is how many times I’ve seen debates where Rebublicans insist on cutting the rate of growth of programs such as medicaid.
The predictable and dishonest response that we frequently see from the left is that Republicans want to cut medicare, SS, or whatever without telling the truth- that they simply want to cut the RATE OF GROWTH. I’ll give politifact credit for largely being right but even then they were factually inaccurate in their so called “FACT CHECKING”.
The Doom has spoken and he gives politifact a Mostly true rating but not completely true.
1811/1801 - 0311/0317
May 25th, 2011
11:33 pm
Doggone:
It wasn’t “my post” knucklehead it was a video of a magician doing some incredible magic tricks.
Your loss !
Thulsa Doom
May 25th, 2011
11:43 pm
Mick
Sorry for the late response.
Mick
May 25th, 2011
10:51 pm
Even though you seem to think that you are quick draw mcgraw with the facts, you still push the myth about obama and spending. The truth and fact of the matter most of our trillion dollar debt was added during bush – fact.- Mick
Mick they were both big spenders. I fully accept that Bush was terrible at spending. Why can you not say the same about Obama. The FY 2011 projected deficit is $1.65 trillion and his own administration projects deficits through 2020.
Another fact is that when clinton raised the tax rate in 94, every repub voted against it and predicted doom and what happened? More revenue paid down the debt and unemployment FELL – fact.- Mick
Mick, yes. And you should also acknowledge that most spending originates in Congress and the Republicans controlled Congress during the Clinton years. Clinton was a better president than Repubs give him credit for in my opinion. But come on Mick. This was the dawning of the age of the internet boom. Fidel Castro could have been in charge and the economy would have boomed. Clinton- and the Republicans in Congress- were both products of good timing.
So, here we are today with the same old repub party and their fear mongering about taxes, the repubs have been proven wrong and got us to where we are at, they have no credibility with balancing budgets, period…Mick
Mick,
This is where I disagree with you. The Dems could have raised taxes- they controlled both houses of Congress and the presidency. Why didn’t they? And just as you and the Dems said we needed massive spending to infuse the economy and avoid economic collapse its also important to remember that raising taxes and thus stifling job creation is also the last thing you want to do in the middle of a recession.
In any event this is my feeling on taxation issues. I think the cap gains tax right now is 15% unless I’m mistaken. I believe the long term rate that most effectively maximizes revenue to the govt is 17-18% according to the data I’ve seen which is readily available. If you adjust for extraordinary economic circumstances such as recessions you will see that at that level the treasury seems to bring in the most revenue. We should raise it soon now that the economy growing- albeit slowly.
Marginal tax rates on individuals could probably be raised to possibly Clinton era levels but no higher to bring in tax revenue to slice the deficit. I’ve no problem with this but I would want everyone to put aside the partisan politics and get to the level that realistically grows the economy while maximizing revenue to the govt.
What I do have a problem with is that the Dems absolutely refuse to regain control of out of control spending. Revenue collection is a problem but the overriding problem is the sheer volume of money our govt is spending. The sheer level of government spending is obscene. The original founders of this great country never intended for the federal govt to become so powerful. And yes- you can blame 2 expensive wars on Bush. I’m cool with that- its the truth. But a 3rd win isn’t helping out.
Anyway, there you have your answers.
Expert Beacon
May 26th, 2011
12:33 am
Ed should read this to help him find a new job. http://bit.ly/mQJmg6
USinUK
May 26th, 2011
5:02 am
good gravy. I’m no fan of Laura Ingraham, but, DAMN, Ed, look behind you – see that line?
Dave R.
May 26th, 2011
5:08 am
“In case you haven’t noticed, that bit about “meaningful discussion” just means he’s getting tired of YOUR BS.”
Fixed your typo, Doggone. No thanks needed.
USinUK
May 26th, 2011
5:25 am
btw, Dave – your 5:20 gave me a chuckle …
and good morning to you!!