Herman Cain doesn’t take the presidency seriously
Did I mention that Herman Cain is not a legitimate candidate for president?
Last week, you may recall, Cain refused to reveal what his policy would be toward Afghanistan. We’ve been fighting there for almost a decade; more than 100,000 American soldiers are putting their lives on the line as we sit here, and Cain, a man who criticizes President Obama for not having a clear foreign policy, says he doesn’t want to “shoot from the lip” by suggesting what course this country should take next.
He says that once elected, he would talk to the experts and generals and come up with a plan about what to do. As I noted at the time, it’s the kind of answer Miss South Carolina might give in the beauty pageant Q&A. In fact, such a lack of preparation is downright disrespectful. Cain is offering himself as a potential commander in chief and asking people to take him seriously, yet the issue of American troops fighting and dying in a far-off land for almost a decade simply hasn’t been important enough to him to justify study and thought.
And then there’s this:
In his announcement speech Saturday, Cain accused President Obama of “throwing Israel under the bus.” On Sunday, Fox News put Cain on the air, sitting him down for an interview with Chris Wallace:
Cain has clearly never encountered the term “right of return,” a phrase familiar to anyone who has done even 20 minutes of research into the Middle East conundrum. He does not know that the Palestinian claim of a “right of return,” if implemented, would mean hundreds of thousands if not millions of Palestinians now living elsewhere would be allowed to return to live in what is now the heart of Israel. He proudly claims that he would offer the Palestinians nothing, yet in saying that the right of return is something to be negotiated, he offers them everything, right down to the destruction of Israel. Yet in that ignorance, he feels qualified to assert what he calls “the Cain doctrine” regarding the Middle East.
I’m sorry. You forfeit any claim as a legitimate candidate if you do not even know what the term “right of return” means. As with the Afghanistan issue, it reflects not merely a lack of knowledge, but even worse, a basic lack of interest and respect for the high office that he seeks and for the voters who support him.
Cain talks a lot about his business career. Well, any job candidate who walked into an interview as proudly ill-prepared as Cain would be bounced out the door immediately.
– Jay Bookman
UPDATE: Cain has issued the following “clarification”:
“Stockbridge, GA)- In an interview this morning on FOX News Sunday with Christopher Wallace, Herman Cain addressed the issue of “right of return” for the country of Israel. In clarification of these remarks, Mr. Cain released the following statement:
I have long been a vocal and unwavering supporter of our friend and ally, Israel.
All Israeli governments have rejected the “right” of large numbers of Arabs or Palestinians to return to what is now the state of Israel. Such an en masse return would unbalance Israel’s demographic makeup as the world’s sole Jewish state.
In this light, should the “right of return” “be negotiated,” as I said, “if that is a decision that Israel wants to make”? Certainly, and to reiterate, it’s Israel’s call. Israel has a long record of being more gracious to its enemies than its enemies are to it, and this would be yet another example of that. But is the “right of return” a moral imperative? Is it something Israel must grant? Is it something the United States ought to encourage?
The answer is no on every count.
Our policy on Palestinian affairs must be wholly a function of our policy on Israeli affairs. Israel is a friend. Israel is an ally. Israel shares common values with us. Israel shares common interests with us, especially in the eradication of terrorism and the need for bringing peace to the region. As President, I will never lose sight of these basic facts. Any aspirant to the Presidency must have the unshakable US-Israeli alliance at the core of his or her strategic vision in the Middle East.
As your President, I would. “
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Joe Mama
May 23rd, 2011
11:23 am
Herman Cain — “Well now. If Jay and friends aren’t afraid of me, why do they keep talking about me? Eight pages of posts in a couple of hours isn’t too bad for an unqualified candidate.”
I daresay we’d post as much if Peewee Herman were an announced candidate for President. And our posts wouldn’t be indicating *fear* of him any more than it indicates fear of you.
By all means, run. And I hope you get the nomination, Mr. Cain.
moonbat betty
May 23rd, 2011
11:23 am
I don’t even know why anyone would run against obama.
This is hell and obama rules it.
jm
May 23rd, 2011
11:23 am
DDR 11:22
““I REFUSE to blame Bush for the things he did wrong!!! ”
I look forward to you finding that quote from me. Stop putting words in my mouth you spinmeister.
also of note, I never wrote this: “Remember………………….the Supremes have deemed torture………………legal.”
You really are unhinged DDR.
GBO
May 23rd, 2011
11:23 am
Obama’s “change” is how much money working Americans will get to keep after they support the 50% of the families who pay NO payroll tax.
Dan
May 23rd, 2011
11:24 am
“I want to get all the facts but on the surface the police were wrong”. Words from President Obama, As it turned out the more facts we learned the police were not wrong. What is wrong with wanting to have facts and experts before jumping to a policy you are then tied to? On the ‘right of return” issue, does that apply to those who were forced ut and the ones that left willingly?
Bosch
May 23rd, 2011
11:24 am
“how can you roast Bush all day long on Iraq, and give Obama a free pass on an unauthorized war?”
What unauthorized war? Do you again mean Libya? When those two conflicts get anywhere in the same universe as being equal, then get back to us.
jm
May 23rd, 2011
11:25 am
Um Bosch 11:24 – the transgressions are equal.
1 guy spun the case to go to war but believed it was the right thing to do, then got permission.
The other guy isn’t spinning any case. As a matter of fact, he isn’t making any case. He’s engaging in a war without permission from anyone, dictator in chief.
If you ask me, the latter transgression is 100 times worse.
Mighy Righty
May 23rd, 2011
11:26 am
Bosch–Read it and weep.
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Monday, May 23, 2011 Email to a Friend ShareThisAdvertisementThe Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 26% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Thirty-six percent (36%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -10 (see trends).
USinUK
May 23rd, 2011
11:26 am
btw, USMC – you’re still evil for “Too Legit to Quit”
just thought I’d let you know.
USinUK
May 23rd, 2011
11:26 am
Bosch – “When those two conflicts get anywhere in the same universe as being equal, then get back to us.”
dude. seriously.
the oy goes off the charts.
Tom
May 23rd, 2011
11:27 am
Bosch – Thanks for the reminder, my badd!!! Ok, I’ll try again, on one hand a successful businessman and on the other a politician(from Chicago-city of questionable candidates), college liberal intellect, and CO(Community Organizer). Sorry for the omissions? Is that better? I am an Independent and I think it’s about time for a proven businessman instead of a politician! If you vote for just skin color, that issue should be put to bed now! Have a nice day!!!!!!!
Give the guy a break
May 23rd, 2011
11:27 am
Jeez. Breaking his bawls because he froze up for a moment on the subject of “right of return” during a critically important TV interview? Lighten up.
If you ever had any real exposure to tough issues outside of your windowless cubicle at a dying newspaper, you might have the experience of being put on the spot and locking up momentarily. It happens to all of us.
Themistocles (a.k.a. Left Wing Mgmt)
May 23rd, 2011
11:27 am
From Politico:
“I love it when the skeptics want to criticize me because of lack of foreign policy experience. I know that you don’t throw your friends under the bus. You don’t need to have years in the State Department to figure that out,” Cain said, picking up the line of attack on President Barack Obama’s position on Israel expressed in his Middle East policy speech at the end of last week.
On Sunday morning, though, he came up blank when asked by Fox News host Chris Wallace about the Palestinian right of return.
“The right of return,” Cain asked, pausing before asking again. “The right of return?”
When Wallace explained that the issue concerned whether Palestinian refugees should have the ability to automatically enter and gain citizenship in a Palestinian state, Cain deferred, saying it was Israel’s choice, but offering few specifics.
I love how the right – always the hawks – shifts imperceptibly into saying categorically that it’s all about what Israel wants. In effect: “whatever Israel wants, it gets”.
So does Israel get to roll back history or reconfigure geography just because it ‘wants’ to, or does it have to put its pants on one leg at a time like all the other mere mortals in the world?
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/55484.html#ixzz1NBpG90bv
Andrew
May 23rd, 2011
11:27 am
Jay -
In your opinion, by what criteria should voters judge candidates?
Mick
May 23rd, 2011
11:27 am
Funny how GLL disappeared when confronted with the facts he was asking for….
Misty Fyed
May 23rd, 2011
11:28 am
Sooooo. You criticize Cain for witholding an opinion on what he would do until he gets all of the facts.
Obama on the other hand has balked on all his major campaign promises regarding foreign policy and that is just fine with you.
So let me get this right. To appeal to a liberal, its more important to spout rhetoric, regardless of the facts, than to frame an opinion based on fact.
Joe Mama
May 23rd, 2011
11:29 am
Tom — “Ok, I’ll try again, on one hand a successful businessman and on the other a politician(from Chicago-city of questionable candidates), college liberal intellect, and CO(Community Organizer). Sorry for the omissions? Is that better? I am an Independent and I think it’s about time for a proven businessman instead of a politician!”
So you’re going to write *Trump* in for President?
poison pen
May 23rd, 2011
11:29 am
willie lynch
May 23rd, 2011
11:18 am
poison pen
May 23rd, 2011
10:41 am
I don’t think the people of Uganda found Idi Amin to be the a benevolent ruler. Nor is Moshe Dayan cosidered a hero by Arabs. Augusto Pinochet was one of the most murderous leaders of the last 30 years. Each of these men enjoyed American support.
It’s been said one man’s terrorist, is another man’s freedom fighter. There is no lie in that observation.
Willie, Do you agree with our policies regarding those men?
jt
May 23rd, 2011
11:29 am
DDR-
Prostrate yourself to nine lawyers.
.
That is your right.
.
I myself will never.
.
Ron Paul 2012.
poison pen
May 23rd, 2011
11:30 am
Give the guy a break
May 23rd, 2011
11:27 am
Jeez. Breaking his bawls because he froze up for a moment on the subject of “right of return” during a critically important TV interview? Lighten up.
If you ever had any real exposure to tough issues outside of your windowless cubicle at a dying newspaper, you might have the experience of being put on the spot and locking up momentarily. It happens to all of us.
He has, working under Tucker, that’s enough to make any man freeze up.
Finn McCool
May 23rd, 2011
11:31 am
I think it’s about time for a proven businessman instead of a politician!”
Wasn’t that the reasoning for voting for W? Evn though he was a complete an utter failure at all things business, ya’ll still threw that out there. “He knows business”
Look where that got us…..
Texas Tea
May 23rd, 2011
11:32 am
Would you rather have someone who lied, like Obama? When are the troops coming home? He said during his campaign they would all be coming home, but it appears as if more are being shipped to other countries to fight.
Jay
May 23rd, 2011
11:32 am
Break, I’d be sympathetic with Cain if it looked at all like a case of brain freeze. I think that as a rule, way too much is made of momentary lapses from people who are required to be speaking on the record 18 hours a day.
But that’s not what happened. As Cain demonstrated by his answer, he had no idea what right of return meant. It was totally unfamiliar to him. This is not a potato(e) moment.
jm
May 23rd, 2011
11:32 am
You know, the reason a guy like me, with two lifelong Democrat parents and a sister who’s a Democrat (though all three are rapidly learning), and who until 2010 voted Democrat, is inclined to vote Republican this time around (and in 2010) is because of the complete and utter loss of any principles.
Look up Hypocrite in the dictionary, and there’s a damn Donkey right next to it.
Good little liberal
May 23rd, 2011
11:32 am
USinUK
Nobody’s flailing. You haven’t proven anything (what a surprise!!!)
And a year ago, Obama hadn’t turned his back on our best allies. The BBC story is out of date,
Now here’s a BBC story from last week:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13418957
DebbieDoRight
May 23rd, 2011
11:32 am
Sorry jm you were correct, you didn’t say that. That was jt. I get all you little j’s confused sometimes. My bad..
Don't Forget
May 23rd, 2011
11:33 am
Does anybody know if we’ve ever had a president who never served in public office prior to becoming president? Maybe Ike, but I can’t think of anyone else off hand.
Themistocles (a.k.a. Left Wing Mgmt)
May 23rd, 2011
11:34 am
poison pen: “If you ever had any real exposure to tough issues outside of your windowless cubicle at a dying newspaper, you might have the experience of being put on the spot and locking up momentarily. It happens to all of us.”
Awww.
He froze up.
Poor guy.
Had to wipe away a tear at that one.
Contractor
May 23rd, 2011
11:34 am
Jay,
Since you put it that way, what do you think a voter should have knowledge of before they are allowed to vote? Because we have all heard the questions and side walk interviews during the last election where Obama supporters didn’t even know who their vice president would be, or any of his policies, so I want to know from you what kind of intelligence a voter should posses in order to elect the primary voice and leader of this country?
JD
May 23rd, 2011
11:35 am
Jay, after all these years we’re still trying to figure out if you’re a serious journalist.
jm
May 23rd, 2011
11:35 am
I think I might be a Huntsman guy since Daniels is out…..
Huntsman says he won’t decide until June whether he’ll get in the race, but his five-day swing through New Hampshire this weekend showcased an organization that’s prepared to run a classic New Hampshire primary campaign: a large and sophisticated team of advance staffers, local consultants and a cadre of national advisors who were with the former Utah governor as he met with key political hands in the state and made close to a dozen retail stops.
At the VFW post here, Huntsman walked in to find World War II Air Force veteran Tom Machaud playing pool. Huntsman challenged him to a game, and spent about 15 minutes playing while photographers looked on. Huntsman lost the game — he had left three stripes on the table when Machaud sank the eight ball.
But he won over the 83-year-old Machaud.
“I’ll vote for him,” Machaud said. “He’s for real.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/55464.html#ixzz1NBr8xhQl
stands for decibels
May 23rd, 2011
11:36 am
Give the guy a break
oh dearies. that sounds like the “soft bigotry of low expectations” to me.
poison pen
May 23rd, 2011
11:37 am
Bosch
May 23rd, 2011
11:24 am
“how can you roast Bush all day long on Iraq, and give Obama a free pass on an unauthorized war?”
What unauthorized war? Do you again mean Libya? When those two conflicts get anywhere in the same universe as being equal, then get back to us.
Bosch, we shouldn’t be in any of them, it seems that all we do is stir sh*t up around the World, no matter how big or how small. Both Pres were wrong about this.
willie lynch
May 23rd, 2011
11:38 am
poison pen
May 23rd, 2011
11:29 am
No.
jm
May 23rd, 2011
11:38 am
Huntsman setting up shop in FL says it all. This guy is playing to win, because FL is the biggest brass ring out there.
Mick
May 23rd, 2011
11:39 am
The great thing about the election of 2012 is that it will settle the argument of which side holds the majority view, I’m pulling for a democratic rout. Go dems annihilate the repubs once and for all….
Say Rah
May 23rd, 2011
11:39 am
I believe you should have a right to return magazines that you do not read.
jm
May 23rd, 2011
11:40 am
DDR 11:32 – yeah.
Maybe I should go upper case…. but that would be so egotistical…. 
Don't Forget
May 23rd, 2011
11:40 am
Huntsman is still “re-inventing” himself and flip flopping on all the major issues.
Southern Comfort
May 23rd, 2011
11:40 am
Obama’s “change” is how much money working Americans will get to keep after they support the 50% of the families who pay NO payroll tax.
http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/willease1/a.jpg
jm
That photo’s for you….
GOP Voter
May 23rd, 2011
11:40 am
Jay,
I am a proud Republican voter who NEVER agrees with you — until now. Cain’s not a serious candidate. At least the attention to his Middle east flubs, distracts from his answers to the debt crisis during that same interview. He went on and on about the “Cain Doctrine” on this and that. Then, when Chris Wallace pressed him on specifics, Cain admitted that the “Cain Doctrine” isn’t possible right now.
Say what?
Mick
May 23rd, 2011
11:40 am
One would think it would take a little bit more research than a game of pool to be “won over”.
jm
May 23rd, 2011
11:40 am
Mick 11:39 – well since I’m going to (almost certainly) vote Republican in 2012 (in FL – new job starts in 3 weeks), we could make a handshake deal to not go vote since you’re a blue lock. But I’m not certain you’d keep your end of the bargain…
The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….
May 23rd, 2011
11:41 am
Jay
May 23rd, 2011
11:32 am
Nor is it a Biden “three letter word….J..O..B..S…” moment.
JD
May 23rd, 2011
11:41 am
Huntsman is nothing but a puppet of the Obama administration. The only reason his name is thrown around is because the media know he would roll over and take it from behind from Obama. Anyone who falls for his song and dance is a fool.
Jay
May 23rd, 2011
11:42 am
jm, Huntsman has no more chance of winning the GOP nomination than I do.
jm
May 23rd, 2011
11:42 am
SoCo 11:40
– “pure BS”
Mick 11:40 – I know far more than that….. and I didn’t say I was won over… yet
Mighy Righty
May 23rd, 2011
11:42 am
Themistocles (a.k.a. Left Wing Mgmt)
Your position is Israel doesn’t have a choice. They must bow to the United Nations or the United States?
DebbieDoRight
May 23rd, 2011
11:43 am
Dan: As it turned out the more facts we learned the police were not wrong.
Oh of course they weren’t!! Police are NEVER wrong!! Why they just did a little racial profiling, found out that they harrassed the wrong man, then they arrested the 60+ crippled man, who didn’t have a weapon, or even charged them with his cane, because they felt “threatened” by his verbal attack. All that talk of “LAWSUITS!!” and “I KNOW MY RIGHTS!!” scared them witless!
jm: 1 guy spun the case to go to war but believed it was the right thing to do, then got permission.
The other guy isn’t spinning any case. As a matter of fact, he isn’t making any case. He’s engaging in a war without permission from anyone, dictator in chief.
Don’t try to back out of it now. You were comparing the build up of Iraq (a WAR) to Obama’s campaign funding. Where is all that “moral perpitude” you were lauding just a few minutes ago? It seems to me that it went out the window when you were called out for being a DRAMA QUEEN.
Texas Tea: Would you rather have someone who lied, like Obama? When are the troops coming home? He said during his campaign they would all be coming home.
No he didn’t. Do you people EVER tell the truth?
The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….
May 23rd, 2011
11:43 am
Don’t Forget
May 23rd, 2011
11:40 am
did Huntsman use to go by the name “John Kerry”?
Don't Forget
May 23rd, 2011
11:44 am
No he didn’t. Do you people EVER tell the truth?
I’m assuming that’s a rhetorical question.
jm
May 23rd, 2011
11:44 am
JD – disagree. The guy has a very good chance of winning the whole shooting match. (So would Romney)
You want Palin to be the nominee and lose the General, and have 4 more years of Obama?
Dave R.
May 23rd, 2011
11:45 am
Bookman: “I’m sorry. You forfeit any claim as a legitimate candidate if you do not even know what the term “right of return” means.”
I’m sorry. You forfeit any claim as a legitimate opinion columnist if you do not even know what the heck you’re writing about until you consult your daily DNC talking points.
The above line makes as much sense as yours does, Jay.
I think those in the media, including Chris Wallace, are in it for the “gotcha” factor, fostered by Watergate-style “journalism” since the ’70’s. Find an obscure reference and spring it on an interviewee and sit back to watch the reaction real-time, and post interview.
As you can see in the update: “In this light, should the “right of return” “be negotiated,” as I said, “if that is a decision that Israel wants to make”? Certainly, and to reiterate, it’s Israel’s call. Israel has a long record of being more gracious to its enemies than its enemies are to it, and this would be yet another example of that. But is the “right of return” a moral imperative? Is it something Israel must grant? Is it something the United States ought to encourage?
The answer is no on every count.”
Herman’s stance is the Constitutional one, and has been from the start.
Scooter (The Original)
May 23rd, 2011
11:45 am
Jay you amaze me. I just remembered when Russia invaded Georgia and The Obama said he would use the United Nations to resolve the issue. Now come on, any intelligent person knows Russia has veto power on the UN. But like most things regarding The Obama, the “media” was mesmerized with “Hope and Change” and gave him another pass.
RB from Gwinnett
May 23rd, 2011
11:46 am
“More “GOTCHA” slander politi(k)s from the Left-wing Liberal Socialists”
USMC, after Jay’s last hit piece on Cain, he was called a communist by his fellow journalists and based on his support of C. McKinney, I’m not sure you can argue that.
Southern Comfort
May 23rd, 2011
11:47 am
jm
Got a new bs-meter, and soon as I hit the page, it went ballistic…
http://tinyurl.com/3tp46qp
TaxPayer
May 23rd, 2011
11:47 am
McCain/Palin 2012The GOP dream team.
jm
May 23rd, 2011
11:47 am
DDR 11:43 – I did make the Iraq war – Obama campaign promises comparison, but in a different context. Ie, I wasn’t arguing the magnitude. I would agree that the “mistake” Bush made on Iraq was far more serious than Obama electing to opt out of federal financing.
“when you were called out for being a DRAMA QUEEN. ”
I don’t sweat being called a Drama Queen, from the Queen of Drama Queens. Furthermore, if Jay’s judgment is what you use to validate your opinion of people, you really are a lost soul.
USMC
May 23rd, 2011
11:48 am
“btw, USMC – you’re still evil for “Too Legit to Quit” just thought I’d let you know.”USinUK
I hope you didn’t have that G-d awful song in your head all weekend…
Let me guess, your significant other caught you “humming” the tune on several occasions?
I definitely owe you
JD
May 23rd, 2011
11:48 am
All of you who are making a big deal out of Cain’s appearance on inside-the-beltway TV shows need to get your priorities straight. When will you ever learn that worrying about how the media feels about GOP candidates and wanting to be liked by the beltway boys leads to DNC victories 100% of the time??? You are the same people never got any in college because you had to go change your pants every time a girl looked at you.
Tom
May 23rd, 2011
11:50 am
Well Jay. you’re not a serious or legitimate writer/journalist, so I guess that makes you and Cain even.
Themistocles (a.k.a. Left Wing Mgmt)
May 23rd, 2011
11:51 am
If you want to know why Huntsmann has ZERO chance for the nomination, read no further than this post here by JD:
“Huntsman is nothing but a puppet of the Obama administration. The only reason his name is thrown around is because the media know he would roll over and take it from behind from Obama. Anyone who falls for his song and dance is a fool.”
Besides, watching him interviewed last week by John King, I saw him commit at least 3 cardinal sins. The most important of which was simply that he showed his basic respect for thought.
He shows that he actually knows how to think.
And that right there is why he will never have a hope in hell in this current GOP party.
Frankly I found his naivete a bit touching. He actually thinks the old gentleman’s rules of politics still apply. But he’s sadly mistaken.
Tom
May 23rd, 2011
11:52 am
JoeMama- Are you a die-hard politician type supporter or do you want the best candidate regardless of party?? Don’t you find it questionable his support of middle-eastern Muslim countries(including forgiving Eqypt a billion dollar loan) instead of focusing of the USA with serious issues of jobs, gas prices, immigration, etc(just to name a few). We need a President of the USA not NATO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let those foreign countries solve their own dam problems, I’m sick of being the the World’s policeman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
stands for decibels
May 23rd, 2011
11:53 am
Sounds like a kid who failed a test and blamed it all on “trick questions”.
but, enough about Sarah.
Mick
May 23rd, 2011
11:53 am
jm
Where in florida?
Don't Forget
May 23rd, 2011
11:54 am
I think those in the media, including Chris Wallace, are in it for the “gotcha” factor, fostered by Watergate-style “journalism” since the ’70’s. Find an obscure reference and spring it on an interviewee and sit back to watch the reaction real-time, and post interview.
Obscure reference?? Right of return is an obscure reference now? Wow. Sounds like a kid who failed a test and blamed it all on “trick questions”.
TaxPayer
May 23rd, 2011
11:54 am
Roger Ailes must be a closet Democrat because he’s sure picked some real winners with Sarah and Herman and Mike and Newt and…
Who does he have in store for us next. Santorum, Christie. How ’bout Glenn Beck for president. hehehe
Joe Mama
May 23rd, 2011
11:55 am
Tom — “JoeMama- Are you a die-hard politician type supporter or do you want the best candidate regardless of party??”
I was a Republican for about 20 years, so yeah, I was a die-hard politician type supporter. Then y’all made it clear you didn’t want me, my vote or my donations around any more. Message received.
“Don’t you find it questionable his support of middle-eastern Muslim countries(including forgiving Eqypt a billion dollar loan) instead of focusing of the USA with serious issues of jobs, gas prices, immigration, etc(just to name a few). We need a President of the USA not NATO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let those foreign countries solve their own dam problems, I’m sick of being the the World’s policeman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
I’m sorry; I don’t take posters seriously if they use more than a dozen exclamation points in a single post. I suggest you try decaf.
jm
May 23rd, 2011
11:56 am
Jay, you probably also thought Kasim Reed didn’t stand a chance early in his campaign….. (even though you endorsed him in late October). Meanwhile, I plowed in $1,500 in support of the guy early on….
Doc
May 23rd, 2011
11:57 am
Call me crazy, but I think Herman Cain will emerge as a dangerous candidate. He is a Morehouse man, and nearly every black family in America has that conservative uncle/aunt/mama/grandmother/father who thinks that liberal issues are crazy. Ironically, Cain will lead many to reconsider what it means to be a black man/woman in American politics. He can’t simply be written off as an Uncle Tom.
-What’s interesting to me is that I have several middle class, southern baptist members of my family who would respond well to Cain’s message. They don’t want higher taxes, they hate healthcare reform, they want law and order, are against abortion, don’t care much for social programs (especially welfare) and can’t stand gay people…….the black community has a whole gang of closet and confused conservative.
http://thyblackman.com/2011/05/22/dr-boyce-watkins-quick-thoughts-on-the-dangers-of-gop-herman-cain/
Bosch
May 23rd, 2011
11:57 am
jm @ 11:25
The fact that you DO equate Libya and Iraq shows your total disregard for the men and women who died and were injured in that conflict. Shame on you for doing so just to score empty political points.
Darko
May 23rd, 2011
11:58 am
Did I mention Bookman isn’t a legitimate journalist? And that the AJC isn’t a legitimate newspaper?
The AJC (and Bookman) have been bounced out of several “interviews”, just look at the rapidly declining circulation numbers.
Bosch
May 23rd, 2011
11:59 am
Darko,
Yeah, and I file such remarks as “empty thoughts from empty folks”
Mick
May 23rd, 2011
12:00 pm
jm
Well good luck and welcome to S. Florida. Make sure your A/C is on tip top shape cause it’s gonna be a broiling summer ahead…
The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….
May 23rd, 2011
12:01 pm
Bosch
May 23rd, 2011
11:59 am
“empty thoughts from empty folks”
Isn’t that the Muslim Brotherhood’s motto?
Tom
May 23rd, 2011
12:01 pm
JoeMama – So the issue is exclamation points not issues of this country, now I understand what you are all about.(Notice no exclamation point there) Afraid to talk about the middle eastern countries, I bet the voters will consider it next election and I am not a Republican, just a very concerned Independent.
Themistocles (a.k.a. Left Wing Mgmt)
May 23rd, 2011
12:02 pm
Mighty Righty: “Your position is Israel doesn’t have a choice. They must bow to the United Nations or the United States?”
My position is that Israel has nothing BUT choices. And choices are exactly what they’re making, right now, whether they acknowledge it or not. Continuing to refuse to take genuine, good faith steps towards a resolution is a choice and one that will have increasingly dire consequences.
What I was pointing out is the fact that the right has quickly settled on this position that whatever Israel wants is what it wants.
And that is to abandon the task of THINKING, an art the right wing has all but perfected in recent years.
And this from a movement that used to lecture us on how Democrats were all lock-step, cliche-spouting lemmings.
jm
May 23rd, 2011
12:02 pm
Mick 11:53 – a blue district in S FL.
Bosch 11:57 – wrong. But your lack of understanding the importance of Libya indicates your total disregard for the rule of law.
jm
May 23rd, 2011
12:02 pm
Bosch 11:57 – oh yes. (Jay pre-apologies for this)
“disregard for the men and women who died and were injured in that conflict”
And F You for saying that.
jconservative
May 23rd, 2011
12:02 pm
The Obama administration supports the policy announced by Clinton in 2001 that”… the creation of a Palestinian State and the Palestinian right of return [to Israel] are mutually exclusive.”
Both Bush and Obama have supported this position. I cannot imagine a US president not supporting this position.
Dave R.
May 23rd, 2011
12:03 pm
“Obscure reference?? Right of return is an obscure reference now?”
Yeah, Don’t Forget. An obscure reference. As in not everyone needs to know everything about everything when running for President, especially when one’s beliefs support the U.S. Constitution, written by people who told us to “beware of foreign entanglements”.
Where's My Party?
May 23rd, 2011
12:03 pm
What our country needs now more than ever before is a leader, not a politician. Can Cain be that leader? I would like to see his thoughts on who his Cabinent members would be. That would go a long way towards deciding my vote.
jconservative
May 23rd, 2011
12:05 pm
The Obama administration supports the policy announced by Clinton in 2001 that”… the creation of a Palestinian State and the Palestinian right of return [to Israel] are mutually exclusive.”
Both Bush and Obama have supported this position. I cannot imagine a US president not supporting this position.
Joe Mama
May 23rd, 2011
12:05 pm
jm — “But your lack of understanding the importance of Libya indicates your total disregard for the rule of law.”
What legal principle, exactly, are you talking about here? I asked you earlier what you were trying to say on this topic, but you either missed my query or chose not to reply.
USMC
May 23rd, 2011
12:06 pm
“I would like to see his thoughts on who his Cabinet members would be.”
Let’s get Rush Limbaugh, Neal Boortz, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Bill Oreilly, Michael Savage, and Glen Beck for starters… and Sarah Palin of course
LOL! I thought I would get your blood boiling with that one.
Joe Mama
May 23rd, 2011
12:06 pm
Enter your comments here
USinUK
May 23rd, 2011
12:06 pm
USMC – YES, I had the danged song in my head all weekend … made me LONG for the Rapture!!!
GLL – “You haven’t proven anything”
so, if the BBC poll is so wrong and so out of date, prove otherwise! g’head … show evidence – which you have yet to do about ANYThing.
poison pen
May 23rd, 2011
12:07 pm
The New York Post has reported that Obamas team is trying to dig up dirt on Christie because they are afraid that he might run for Pres.
Maybe Jay can do a hatchet job on him tomorrow.
Mick
May 23rd, 2011
12:07 pm
Look’s like christie is the wannabe hail mary pass from the right except, he ain’t running or walking considering his weight….
jm
May 23rd, 2011
12:08 pm
Joe Mama 12:05 – see the “war powers act”. Also, the part of the constitution that says only Congress can declare war.
Bosch
May 23rd, 2011
12:08 pm
jm,
Struck a nerve I see.
@@
May 23rd, 2011
12:11 pm
potato(e) moment.
In the 19th century, potato was spelled with an “e”. Much like towne and olde.
I kinda like the old english spellings.
Obama tweeted Lybia instead of Libya. Not a problem, I knew what the country he was referencing.
Much ado about nothing but then that’s what jay’s all about…nothing.
poison pen
May 23rd, 2011
12:12 pm
Mick
May 23rd, 2011
12:07 pm
Look’s like christie is the wannabe hail mary pass from the right except, he ain’t running or walking considering his weight….
And Mick, It’s one thing to dissagree with someone about their policies however it’s pretty pathetic that we have to start ripping on people about their looks. What do you look like?
Joe Mama
May 23rd, 2011
12:12 pm
jm — “Joe Mama 12:05 – see the “war powers act”.
You need to read the War Powers Act yourself, because President Obama hasn’t violated it — at least, not yet. I know *very well* what it says.
“Also, the part of the constitution that says only Congress can declare war.”
We haven’t *gone* to war against Libya. I presume you were as upset about our involvement in Iraq, given that we didn’t declare war there, either?
Fix-It
May 23rd, 2011
12:13 pm
And you think Obozo was qualified? For what would be my question, lemonade stand running would be a good start…
USinUK
May 23rd, 2011
12:13 pm
“Obama tweeted Lybia instead of Libya”
not nearly as funny as when Bosch talks about people being viscous. makes me laugh every time.
(love ya, Bosch!)
TaxPayer
May 23rd, 2011
12:14 pm
Why would anyone even entertain the thought that Iraq and Libya military actions have anything more in common than the side of the Atlantic they’re on.
@@
May 23rd, 2011
12:14 pm
Oops! No “what”
IHB
USMC
May 23rd, 2011
12:15 pm
“Look’s like christie is the wannabe hail mary pass from the right except, he ain’t running or walking considering his weight….”
Sounds like you are discriminating against “weight challenged”–Americans, Mick.
What did they ever do to you besides eat the last slice of pizza???
@@
May 23rd, 2011
12:16 pm
USinUK:
Bosch has used viscous to describe me.
Gives me that gooey feelin’.