Herman Cain doesn’t take the presidency seriously
Did I mention that Herman Cain is not a legitimate candidate for president?
Last week, you may recall, Cain refused to reveal what his policy would be toward Afghanistan. We’ve been fighting there for almost a decade; more than 100,000 American soldiers are putting their lives on the line as we sit here, and Cain, a man who criticizes President Obama for not having a clear foreign policy, says he doesn’t want to “shoot from the lip” by suggesting what course this country should take next.
He says that once elected, he would talk to the experts and generals and come up with a plan about what to do. As I noted at the time, it’s the kind of answer Miss South Carolina might give in the beauty pageant Q&A. In fact, such a lack of preparation is downright disrespectful. Cain is offering himself as a potential commander in chief and asking people to take him seriously, yet the issue of American troops fighting and dying in a far-off land for almost a decade simply hasn’t been important enough to him to justify study and thought.
And then there’s this:
In his announcement speech Saturday, Cain accused President Obama of “throwing Israel under the bus.” On Sunday, Fox News put Cain on the air, sitting him down for an interview with Chris Wallace:
Cain has clearly never encountered the term “right of return,” a phrase familiar to anyone who has done even 20 minutes of research into the Middle East conundrum. He does not know that the Palestinian claim of a “right of return,” if implemented, would mean hundreds of thousands if not millions of Palestinians now living elsewhere would be allowed to return to live in what is now the heart of Israel. He proudly claims that he would offer the Palestinians nothing, yet in saying that the right of return is something to be negotiated, he offers them everything, right down to the destruction of Israel. Yet in that ignorance, he feels qualified to assert what he calls “the Cain doctrine” regarding the Middle East.
I’m sorry. You forfeit any claim as a legitimate candidate if you do not even know what the term “right of return” means. As with the Afghanistan issue, it reflects not merely a lack of knowledge, but even worse, a basic lack of interest and respect for the high office that he seeks and for the voters who support him.
Cain talks a lot about his business career. Well, any job candidate who walked into an interview as proudly ill-prepared as Cain would be bounced out the door immediately.
– Jay Bookman
UPDATE: Cain has issued the following “clarification”:
“Stockbridge, GA)- In an interview this morning on FOX News Sunday with Christopher Wallace, Herman Cain addressed the issue of “right of return” for the country of Israel. In clarification of these remarks, Mr. Cain released the following statement:
I have long been a vocal and unwavering supporter of our friend and ally, Israel.
All Israeli governments have rejected the “right” of large numbers of Arabs or Palestinians to return to what is now the state of Israel. Such an en masse return would unbalance Israel’s demographic makeup as the world’s sole Jewish state.
In this light, should the “right of return” “be negotiated,” as I said, “if that is a decision that Israel wants to make”? Certainly, and to reiterate, it’s Israel’s call. Israel has a long record of being more gracious to its enemies than its enemies are to it, and this would be yet another example of that. But is the “right of return” a moral imperative? Is it something Israel must grant? Is it something the United States ought to encourage?
The answer is no on every count.
Our policy on Palestinian affairs must be wholly a function of our policy on Israeli affairs. Israel is a friend. Israel is an ally. Israel shares common values with us. Israel shares common interests with us, especially in the eradication of terrorism and the need for bringing peace to the region. As President, I will never lose sight of these basic facts. Any aspirant to the Presidency must have the unshakable US-Israeli alliance at the core of his or her strategic vision in the Middle East.
As your President, I would. “
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DebbieDoRight
May 23rd, 2011
10:12 am
jm: A. When he was running for office.
WRONG. He said the war in Afghan was a “good” war unlike the War in Iraq.
B. Are you that clueless? Obama increased the troop strength by 25,000 troops after taking office?
That was the surge to try and root out the AQ’s defensive positions and terror cells in Afghanistan. That has nothing to do with the Agreement Bush signed before he left office to draw down troops. It’s called HISTORY and not even ancient history at that. These events are less than 5 years old!! Were you trapped in a time warp or something these past few years?
At least Bush went to Congress to get the votes to wage war in Iraq. Obama just wages wars without the consent of Congress.
What “war” has Obama waged?
Bosch
May 23rd, 2011
10:13 am
jm,
And you guys are really desperate and crazy.
And we are inconsistent? Please, NOW you guys are all anti-war? Isn’t that cute….
Cain Ain't Able
May 23rd, 2011
10:13 am
The “Deer in the Headlights” was hilarious. That had to be a Palin/Couric moment. At least this time, he was able to describe the Fair Tax. Maybe Uncle Neal will give him some “Middle East” lessons, before the NEXT slap down! Neal has his undies in a BUNCH right now … does he actually think Hermie has a CHANCE IN HELL, when they see who he PALS AROUND with!
And Hermie … please, oh please DROP the MLK speech. MLK has to be turning in his GRAVE, with his words coming out of your mouth! You also made a “bad mistake”, putting your foot in the race .. on the DAY of the RAPTURE. Hmmmmmmmmmm … maybe not!
HA
Good little liberal
May 23rd, 2011
10:14 am
USinUK
The bin L:aden that brought down the WTC. Yes, that guy. He is agreeing with the policies toward the middle east with our current president. He believes that the same people are good that our president supports.
Bin Laden’s death did not end his mantra.
You can tap dance all you want . . . and you will because no matter what Obama does, you will support him.
Adam
May 23rd, 2011
10:14 am
LOL, we can add Vincent to the list of people with NOTHING. “57 states therefore WORST PREZ EVAH”
Granny Godzilla
May 23rd, 2011
10:14 am
Good little liberal
May 23rd, 2011
10:04 am
Granny Godzilla
Demanding that Israel give back all the land taken in the 1967 war is not taking the side against Israel.
Explain, please.
– correct lie first
no demand
jm
May 23rd, 2011
10:14 am
USinUK / Bosch – I’m glad liberals have redefined “war” so creatively (as is there tendency with to do with any concept). So, as long as no boots are on the ground, we’re not at war. I’m glad Republicans are now at liberty to bomb away at the world without consent from Congress.
You guys really are clueless and so morally and ethically inconsistent that you reveal the true vacuum of principles in the Democratic Party.
Good little liberal
May 23rd, 2011
10:16 am
Mick
“hyperbole”
Yer basic liberal argument. No reason. No counter. No explanation. Just throw the word out which YOU think cancels the entire point when all you actually do is prove that you can’t defend your own points.
Bosch
May 23rd, 2011
10:17 am
GLL,
If you would make some points that are real, then we might be able to counter them. Delusions are not points.
jm
May 23rd, 2011
10:17 am
Obama is breaking the law. Time for impeachment.
Mick
May 23rd, 2011
10:17 am
**you reveal the true vacuum of principles in the Democratic Party.
As if there are any better principles in the modern republican party?
DebbieDoRight
May 23rd, 2011
10:17 am
and Cain is no mere “community organizer.”
He’s now a radio pundit………….
Cain Ain't Able
May 23rd, 2011
10:17 am
USMC …
How soon we forget … McKinney was the only person to come out say:
There ARE NO WMD’S … and remember the SPANKING she got … wow!
I don’t see you or anyone else, apologizing for the profanity that you used on that day.
And please sir .. it’s not gentleman-like or honorable, to call someone a “buffoon”.
USinUK
May 23rd, 2011
10:18 am
someone please hand GLL a paper bag … the poor thing is hyperventalating.
jm
May 23rd, 2011
10:18 am
Bosch 10:13 – whatever dude. I’m not anti-war any more so than the next joe. I hate all war, but they are sometimes justified.
I think its comical (and sad) that liberals are now pro-war.
And for the record, I’m in favor of the rule of law, which is not about being pro or anti war.
Gen. Halftrack
May 23rd, 2011
10:18 am
“He says that once elected, he would talk to the experts and generals and come up with a plan…”
I believe that’s what the current White House occupant has done. As a candidate he was all for exiting Afghanistan PDQ, but as soon as the generals got ahold of him they turned him around. Of course they’re going to lobby for continuing military action – they’re the military, that’s their bread and butter. My biggest disappointment with BHO is that he’s allowed the generals to lead him around by the nose.
Themistocles (a.k.a. Left Wing Mgmt)
May 23rd, 2011
10:19 am
jm: “LWM 10:01 – see earlier post. And: “liberal” in the US does not mean what it did historically. Duh. Stop playing stupid liberal games. Or, I’m glad we can just call you guys “socialist” now since you admit it. ”
But, again, I don’t even see what’s so troubling to you about the word “socialist” even, since that’s clearly what we have RIGHT NOW as we speak, namely socialism for the bankers and Wall St. power class but something a little different for all the rest.
I challenge you to demonstrate that we do not NOW have a system that is effectively what Michael Lewis calls “socialism for the bankers and capitalism for everyone else”. I challenge you.
You won’t be able to prove otherwise.
So the result is that you fail to realize that the very status quo you defend is socialism.
USMC
May 23rd, 2011
10:19 am
Talk about CLUELESS…
General Secretary Obama didn’t even know that dropping the Capital Gains Tax INCREASES Revenue to the government; Unbelievable!
Clueless Comrade Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpSDBu35K-8
USinUK
May 23rd, 2011
10:19 am
criminey, the UK and France have taken the lead in Libya and no one here considers us AT WAR.
Bosch has it right – you desperately need a Xanax. or a hug.
Cain Ain't Able
May 23rd, 2011
10:19 am
Someone please tell me:
What’s so WRONG with being a “community organizer”? Besides the fact that President Obama was also a CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY, before his Senate bid.
Get your history RIGHT, before you LIE … okay!
Bosch
May 23rd, 2011
10:19 am
” that liberals are now pro-war.”
We aren’t IN a war, jm — except in Afghanistan, and it’s be reassessed since the death of OBL.
You need to take a Xanax and calm down this morning — you are at stroke level desperation.
Good little liberal
May 23rd, 2011
10:20 am
AmVet
Bush’s policies found bin Laden. The intelligence gathering found him. The military had him in their sights.
President Obama, can we proceed?
I’ll sleep on it and let you know.
Sure. Big accomplishment for the lawyer/community organizer.
jm
May 23rd, 2011
10:20 am
“As if there are any better principles in the modern republican party?”
Yep. They’re pro economic and regulatory freedom, they’re for a strong military, and small government. Those are good sound principles, and are generally universally accepted within the Republican party with the exception of some nut job religious conservatives.
jm
May 23rd, 2011
10:21 am
LWM 10:19 – when have I claimed that there isn’t “socialism” for bankers? I would agree with that statement.
The difference is, you’re in favor of it, I’m not.
Mick
May 23rd, 2011
10:21 am
gll
It’s because your opinions are just that. You use weak stereotyping and typical radio talking points concerning the president. I get that you don’t like him but really, try to come up with your own reasons rather worn out talking points or fox propaganda…
Peter B
May 23rd, 2011
10:21 am
Yes Herman Cain has flaws. He is certainly not as eloquent or knowledgeable has past presidential candidates. He did not attend an Ivey League institution. I appreciate the idea of electing an individual who is not a career political elitist. That aspect alone makes this man more viable for me. I am more excited about Ron Paul but face the facts that he is too old and not pretty enough for the Time magazine crowd so I won’t get my hopes up, but if Obama can be elected then Cain can be.
That being said, You, Mr. Bookman are a prime example of the elitist’s hacks that are responsible for the disastrous situation our nation finds itself. A product of the baby boomer, hippicrats who have steadily pried liberty and freedom from the generations who have follow. Who are directly responsible for one of the worst educational systems in the westernized world. Who are continuously assaulting our first amendment guaranties and privacy rights. Who degrade the private sector in favor of the public sector. Who pretend to empathize with the “working people” while directly working against our best interests. Who have created generations of government dependent lazy illiterate myrmidons who are just electoral fodder during election years for the ruling elite. The neo McCarthyism movement. You are a cog in collective state-ist virus infecting our future, yet another media drone passing on the potus line No longer the people’s watchdog, so your rejection of Cain should, if anything, a reason to pay this candidate more attention.
Our right of return should be the return of opportunity and liberty to control our American destiny from the 60’s closet Marxists thieves who have steadily be stealing it from our generations.
Good little liberal
May 23rd, 2011
10:21 am
USinUK
This is why any debate started with you is useless. You can’t produce any sort of counterargument so you do what liberals try to do: dismiss and try to make a joke about how badly YOU have done.
Joe Mama
May 23rd, 2011
10:21 am
jm — “Obama is breaking the law. Time for impeachment.”
What law or laws, specifically, please?
Themistocles (a.k.a. Left Wing Mgmt)
May 23rd, 2011
10:22 am
Jay: “Leftwing, my favorite example of that phenomenon came when Jim Wooten wrote a column critical of Bill O’Reilly years ago, and he was deluged with emails attacking him as a liberal.”
Funny. Never mind if he was right or wrong. It’s that – horrors – he was a “liberal”. Sound the alarm!!
Adam
May 23rd, 2011
10:22 am
This whole thing about Bush getting credit for good stuff that Obama does, while Obama gets all the blame, only plays for the Republican base. Independent voters do not, in general, fall for such nonsense.
Mick
May 23rd, 2011
10:23 am
jm
Except they lie about tax cuts, deficits, medicare, birth certificates, debt ceilings. How can anyone trust them after the first decade of this century going from surplus to massive debt during their watch? Not me….
jt
May 23rd, 2011
10:23 am
Remember………………………………………………………….
FREEDOM ISN’t FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
.
Nor is the health insurance policy that you will soon be required to buy……………….at gunpoint.
.
jm
May 23rd, 2011
10:23 am
Jay, do you find the flip-flopping your fellow liberals have to do over these wars comical, sad, or are you indifferent (apathetic) to the issue that your political allies have no moral or ethical consistency?
stands for decibels
May 23rd, 2011
10:23 am
Obama didn’t know we had 50 states
[…]
At least Herman Cain knows there are only 50 states; not 57 or more
[…]
Barry Obumbles has not a clue as to what he is doing. What about his “57 states” comment while he was running for POTUS
Show of hands—anyone here actually believe that Obama didn’t know how many states we had, prior to when he made that campaign trail gaffe? Anyone?
(I just want to know what kind of a kiddie table we’re dealing with here.)
Surpirsed
May 23rd, 2011
10:23 am
What a racist. The only reason Bookman is saying he is bnot seriuos is because cain is black.
Racist
Racist
Racist
Racist
Racist Democrat
Racist
Racist
Racist
USinUK
May 23rd, 2011
10:24 am
GLL – let’s see … economy improving, Osama dead … you’re right. we’re doing a horrible job.
and you wonder why we dismiss you.
Paul
May 23rd, 2011
10:24 am
Welcome to the winnowing, Mr. Cain. You haven’t made the cut.
Mitch Daniels is out. Looks like Romney with a possible challenge by Huntsman. Only two Republicans out there with appeal to the middle.
USinUK
Jay posted he sent my email address to the address you use to post.
Paul
May 23rd, 2011
10:25 am
Halftrack
“As a candidate he was all for exiting Afghanistan PDQ”
Cite?
If you review his speeches as candidate I think you’ll find the opposite.
Adam
May 23rd, 2011
10:25 am
Peter B:Who are directly responsible for one of the worst educational systems in the westernized world.
Cite please
Who are continuously assaulting our first amendment guaranties and privacy rights
*cough* Patriot Act *cough*
Who pretend to empathize with the “working people” while directly working against our best interests.
*cough* union busting *cough*
Funny, looks like many of your points are just projection…
jt
May 23rd, 2011
10:25 am
As you write out the check that goes to an insurance CEO bonus………………………
.
just scream …………………FREEEEEEEEEEEDOM.
Good little liberal
May 23rd, 2011
10:26 am
Bosch
Another brilliant liberal argument. Make a point pal. But then again, once you start discussing facts, you are really sort of screwed, aren’t you?
jm
May 23rd, 2011
10:26 am
LWM – here’s the difference between you and me: you’re upset that not everyone is getting “socialism”, just the bankers. I’m upset anyone is getting / benefiting from “socialism”. Get it?
Mick 10:23 – Republicans can be a fickle and dirty sort too. On balance though, I’ll take their negatives over the Dem negatives. The worse a Republican can do is cheat on his wife or turn out gay. But a Democrat can ruin the country.
Jay
May 23rd, 2011
10:26 am
jm, i see no flipflopping. But I do see YOU becoming quite the drama queen here.
Impeachment, really? Well, since Boehner, Cantor, McConnell etc. haven’t raised so much as a peep about Obama’s alleged unconstitutional actions, you really ought to give them a call, don’t you think?
Is your cell phone within reach of your fainting couch?
stands for decibels
May 23rd, 2011
10:27 am
Looks like Romney with a possible challenge by Huntsman. Only two Republicans out there with appeal to the middle.
Paul, you might not say that if you’d listened to “Wait, Wait, Don’t Tell Me” this weekend.
Bosch
May 23rd, 2011
10:28 am
GLL,
I’ve never seen you post a fact. Do so, one that’s real, and we’ll talk — otherwise, I’ll just keep thinking of you, along with jm, as the Hyperbole Twins.
Good little liberal
May 23rd, 2011
10:28 am
USinUK
Economy still in a horrible state. Most experts say that unemployment will be well above 8% in Nov. 2012
The Great Health Care Bill now has over 1,000 deferments, given as political favors.
Waterboarding linked to finding bin Laden.
Almost every real ally we have is quickly becoming distrustful of our government.
USMC
May 23rd, 2011
10:28 am
“It’s because your opinions are just that. You use weak stereotyping and typical radio talking points concerning the president. I get that you don’t like him but really, try to come up with your own reasons rather worn out talking points or fox propaganda…”–Mick
–More Talking Points from Liberal Talk Radio and MSNBC hate rhetoric, etc.
Hey Mick, how ’bout getting your own Schtick
Bosch
May 23rd, 2011
10:28 am
Apparently jt is channeling his inner George Michael.
Themistocles (a.k.a. Left Wing Mgmt)
May 23rd, 2011
10:28 am
jm: “when have I claimed that there isn’t “socialism” for bankers? I would agree with that statement. / The difference is, you’re in favor of it, I’m not.”
Ok, then. So we can agree on something.
Better not say that to loud. That might get you accused of being a “liberal”. And we can’t have that.
Mick
May 23rd, 2011
10:28 am
gll
Here’s a fact that the right doesn’t want to fess up to, our massive debt is from un-needed bush tax cuts (2), two wars fought off the books, medicare part d, and finally tarp – go ahead now and tag that to obama and if you do, then you become a fool for ideology’s sake…
Confederate Truthteller
May 23rd, 2011
10:28 am
Jay Bookman is another reason mainstream, bow to the socialists, destroy the Constitution and States’ Rights newspapers are dead. DEO VINDICE!
exjupiter
May 23rd, 2011
10:29 am
Bookman, you are a shameful ignoanus.
Tinsel
May 23rd, 2011
10:29 am
July 22, 2008, Obama said: “Let me absolutely clear, Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s.”
In a townhall meeting, Obama said: “”The Middle East is obviously an issue that has plagued the region for centuries.”
Duh!
Good little liberal
May 23rd, 2011
10:30 am
Bosch
Again. Prove why what I post is not factual. Can’t do it, can you.
You are pathetic.
Joe Mama
May 23rd, 2011
10:30 am
It seems that the conservascreaming has gotten off to an early and LOUD start today.
I wonder if they’re torqued because the Rapture Bus didn’t stop to pick them up over the weekend?
Adam
May 23rd, 2011
10:30 am
Show of hands—anyone here actually believe that Obama didn’t know how many states we had, prior to when he made that campaign trail gaffe? Anyone?
Anyone?
Bueller?….
Bueller?…
RB from Gwinnett
May 23rd, 2011
10:30 am
I’d say from Jay’s lack of a reply he endorsed her every time she ran.
So, do you still agree with what this anti-american nut case believes in Jay? Are you still endorsing her? Speak up Jay!
USMC
May 23rd, 2011
10:31 am
“jm, i see no flipflopping. But I do see YOU becoming quite the drama queen here.”
–Jay Bookman
So now JM is gay because he hit Jay right between the eyes with the truth.
I guess if they can’t argue with you, they attack your sexuality.
(straight from the Liberal playbook; slander and dishonesty)
Adam
May 23rd, 2011
10:31 am
Again. Prove why what I post is not factual. Can’t do it, can you.
Oh THIS should be good. I’m getting popcorn
jm
May 23rd, 2011
10:31 am
Seriously bummed Daniels is out, but I understand his decision…..
USinUK
May 23rd, 2011
10:31 am
Paul – I didn’t get it – but e-mailed Jay to see if he could resend.
willie lynch
May 23rd, 2011
10:31 am
Why is it that the U.S. seems to tread so carefully on it’s comments concerning Israel. Even if Israel is an ally does this mean any criticism has to be backed off because Israel turns it’s sights on you.
Everyone who aspires to public office in the U.S. seems to bow at the alter of Israel. This is a country who has been caught spying on us twice isn’t it?
So it’s OK for Israel to have a right of return but the not the Palestinians?
“Israel has a long record of being more gracious to its enemies than its enemies are to it”. Wow! There has been a report issued detailing the effects of malnutricion on the children of Palestines embargoed people. They lack clean water and the ability to get proper foods, their ability to travel has been restricted so even seeking medical care can take weeks. Essential functions like education and waste removal have been stifled by the Israeli government, even to the point of gasoline rations.
I say again there is no benefit in Israel reaching a “peace” agreement with the Palestinians because there is no reward for them to take away from it. The status of perpetual victim is one that is cultivated and fed by all who won’t stand up and say what’s wrong with Israeli policy. Instead every politician goes before AIPAC and bows down swearing that we will do everything in our power to support Israel in it’s inhumane treatment of others.
It is with this backdrop that Americans march in lockstep with their support and as science has told us for every action there is a reaction. They don’t hate America because their jealous, they have far more substantive reasoning to employ. There will never be any in that land as long as that peace is structured on lies, theivery and injustice. So I guess in that since America and Israel are blood brothers.
AmVet
May 23rd, 2011
10:32 am
GLL, I have no problem whatsoever with you embarrassing yourself, vis a vis giving Bush more credit than BHO for killing OBL.
The buck stops with the CiC.
Had something gone terribly awry, you faketriots would have gone batshiite crazy like you did when that helicopter and C-130 collided in the desert back in 1979. You sure have NO problems, at all, BLAMING Carter for that one, do you?
Capricious and duplicitous are your names.
And it fits in perfectly with your absurd claims about Obama being antisemitic.
Off to keep the corporate destruction of capitalism at bay for a little longer…
Bosch
May 23rd, 2011
10:32 am
GLL,
“Prove why what I post is not factual. Can’t do it, can you.”
That’s like asking someone to prove there are no such things as little green men from mars, unicorns or the Loch Nes Monster.
“You are pathetic.”
Says the better half of the Hyperbole Twin. Do you have special wrist bands?
Mick
May 23rd, 2011
10:32 am
usmc
Walk softly and carry a big schtick…
USMC
May 23rd, 2011
10:33 am
“Show of hands—anyone here actually believe that Obama didn’t know how many states we had, prior to when he made that campaign trail gaffe? Anyone?”–Adam
Well, there is sort of a pattern. What is this Lackey saying?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxBX8sz3tO8
Good little liberal
May 23rd, 2011
10:34 am
Mick
Are those the only reasons why we are in such bad shape?
If you think tax breaks hurt the economy,
“It is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now … Cutting taxes now is not to incur a budget deficit, but to achieve the more prosperous, expanding economy which can bring a budget surplus.”
– John F. Kennedy, Nov. 20, 1962, president’s news conference
“Lower rates of taxation will stimulate economic activity and so raise the levels of personal and corporate income as to yield within a few years an increased – not a reduced – flow of revenues to the federal government.”
– John F. Kennedy, Jan. 17, 1963, annual budget message to the Congress, fiscal year 1964
“In today’s economy, fiscal prudence and responsibility call for tax reduction even if it temporarily enlarges the federal deficit – why reducing taxes is the best way open to us to increase revenues.”
– John F. Kennedy, Jan. 21, 1963, annual message to the Congress: “The Economic Report Of The President”
“It is no contradiction – the most important single thing we can do to stimulate investment in today’s economy is to raise consumption by major reduction of individual income tax rates.”
– John F. Kennedy, Jan. 21, 1963, annual message to the Congress: “The Economic Report Of The President”
“Our tax system still siphons out of the private economy too large a share of personal and business purchasing power and reduces the incentive for risk, investment and effort – thereby aborting our recoveries and stifling our national growth rate.”
– John F. Kennedy, Jan. 24, 1963, message to Congress on tax reduction and reform, House Doc. 43, 88th Congress, 1st Session.
jm
May 23rd, 2011
10:34 am
“But I do see YOU becoming quite the drama queen here.”
Just taking a cue from the master.
jt
May 23rd, 2011
10:34 am
Bosch-
George is cool……………………………………regardless.
bucket
May 23rd, 2011
10:34 am
Following President Obama’s example I suppose it would be better for Cain to just voice his opinion about Iraq, Afghanistan, Gitmo, Israel, etc and then just do the opposite once/if he is elected.
Adam
May 23rd, 2011
10:34 am
GLL: You talk about facts, but all you post are lies. For example:
The Great Health Care Bill now has over 1,000 deferments, given as political favors.
Waterboarding linked to finding bin Laden.
Those are lies, not facts.
Good little liberal
May 23rd, 2011
10:34 am
Bosch
I offer facts. If you can disprove them, do so. If not stop whining like a spanked child.
Bosch
May 23rd, 2011
10:37 am
jt,
USMC
May 23rd, 2011
10:37 am
“Walk softly and carry a big schtick…”
Wise words Mick.
jm
May 23rd, 2011
10:37 am
Jay 10:26 – one more note.
I see gobs of flip-flopping on the left. The only reason Republicans aren’t calling him out on it is because they don’t want to appear hyper-partisan AND because they’re generally in favor of the expansion of executive power and they also supported huge expansions in federal power under Bush.
I accept the need to do some unpleasant things (surveillance, etc). But I’m not in favor of the expansive powers being granted the Executive branch by law, and by fiat. And I wish Democrats would at least attempt to adhere to the rules they try to apply to everyone else so as to not be so hypocritical (like Obama’s campaign fundraising reform rules which he himself tossed out the window).
Dems are a party adrift.
Mr. Snarky
May 23rd, 2011
10:38 am
Wow…what a lightweight Cain is. I can’t help but conclude that the fact that he’s getting any press at all is an indication of how week the repub field is. Looking forward to 4 more years!
DebbieDoRight
May 23rd, 2011
10:38 am
GLL: Bush’s policies found bin Laden.
HA!! From an OpEd done by John McCain:
Former attorney general Michael Mukasey recently claimed that “the intelligence that led to bin Laden . . . began with a disclosure from Khalid Sheik Mohammed, who broke like a dam under the pressure of harsh interrogation techniques that included waterboarding. He loosed a torrent of information — including eventually the nickname of a trusted courier of bin Laden.” That is false.
I asked CIA Director Leon Panetta for the facts, and he told me the following: The trail to bin Laden did not begin with a disclosure from Khalid Sheik Mohammed, who was waterboarded 183 times. The first mention of Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti — the nickname of the al-Qaeda courier who ultimately led us to bin Laden — as well as a description of him as an important member of al-Qaeda, came from a detainee held in another country, who we believe was not tortured. None of the three detainees who were waterboarded provided Abu Ahmed’s real name, his whereabouts or an accurate description of his role in al-Qaeda.
USinUK
May 23rd, 2011
10:39 am
“Economy still in a horrible state. Most experts say that unemployment will be well above 8% in Nov. 2012″
but it’s going in the RIGHT direction, not careening off a cliff, which is where we were on Jan 20, 2009
“The Great Health Care Bill now has over 1,000 deferments, given as political favors.”
and you have proof that they were given out as favors??? we keep hearing you and Pdiddy complain about it, but you guys never show any evidence.
waterboarding – oh? you know it was waterboarding? and what about all the waterboarding that didn’t give us ANYthing – or, even worse, gave us INCORRECT info … hey, gotta break a few eggs, right? (easy to say when it’s not your son)
again – almost every gov’t ally??? got proof of that?
“People around the world today view the United States more positively than at any time since the second Iraq war,” said Doug Miller, chairman of international polling firm GlobeScan, which carried out the poll with the Program on International Policy Attitudes (Pipa) at the University of Maryland.
“While still well below that of countries like Germany and the UK, the global standing of the US is clearly on the rise again.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/8626041.stm
nice try. FLAIL.
Bosch
May 23rd, 2011
10:39 am
“Just taking a cue from the master.”
Like I wrote, GLL and jm…the Hyperbole Twins.
USinUK
May 23rd, 2011
10:39 am
Paul – I did – wasn’t there.
Jay
May 23rd, 2011
10:39 am
jm, if your explanation is that the GOP doesn’t want to appear hyperpartisan …. well, let’s just say that’s a very tough sell.
Don't Tread
May 23rd, 2011
10:39 am
No one with an (R) by their name takes anything seriously, according to liberals. Nothing new to see here.
I’ll bet Cain knows how many states there are in the US. I’ll also bet that he understands islands don’t capsize, regardless of how many people are on them. I’m also sure he doesn’t advocate passing a law to see what’s in it.
It could be argued that Democrats don’t take education seriously (except when passing tax increases to throw more money at the problem).
Realtalk
May 23rd, 2011
10:39 am
You are a Joke Jay! CT too! Not sure how you can get out of bed every morning with a job like this.
You both should be tried for Treason.
CAIN 2012
jm
May 23rd, 2011
10:39 am
Free spending Bush + Dem Congress = fiscal disaster.
Morally corrupt Obama + Republican Congress = unlimited Executive Branch military power. Oy.
straitroad
May 23rd, 2011
10:39 am
Jay,
You might be correct. Cain might not be a legitimate candidate for president, but that doesn’t seem to be a requirement any longer. The election of Obama proves that this nation will elect anyone, regardless of track record or proven experience. Cain may not be the best candidate, but at least he has nothing to hide and he is a true American. He is better on his worst day than Obama is on his best.
Granny Godzilla
May 23rd, 2011
10:40 am
GLL SAYS:
Again. Prove why what I post is not factual. Can’t do it, can you.
shall i point it out in one word?
DEMAND
USinUK
May 23rd, 2011
10:40 am
Paul – because of my superior ability to bend space and time, I replied to your 10:41 at 10:39.
… and now, for my next magical trick …
Themistocles (a.k.a. Left Wing Mgmt)
May 23rd, 2011
10:40 am
willie lynch: “Why is it that the U.S. seems to tread so carefully on it’s comments concerning Israel. Even if Israel is an ally does this mean any criticism has to be backed off because Israel turns it’s sights on you.”
My, what a refreshingly reasonable and honest reflection (10:31). Shhh. Better keep it down. You’ll get yourself accused of being a liberal/socialist/fascist/Obama lover if you’re not careful.
Haven’t you heard this thought was declared out of bounds of the party line? The very act of thought itself – as Newt learned in the little firestorm he kicked off last week – has been declared out of bounds by the Stalinists at party central.
“Instead every politician goes before AIPAC and bows down swearing that we will do everything in our power to support Israel in it’s inhumane treatment of others”
But why bother having that argument when you can just seize on what was or wasn’t said in the speech given as evidence of scandalous betrayal. All you have to do is invent a meme (”he threw Israel under the bus”), circulate it, and the rest takes care of itself as actual thought gets shut down.
Paul
May 23rd, 2011
10:40 am
sfd
Thanks! I do enjoy that show.
One of my favorites was the segment where they read three news stories, two bogus and the object is to pick the real one.
The winner? Two teenage girls in Australia, I think Melbourne, decided to explore the underground tunnel system. Got hopelessly lost. Had cellphones. Their solution? They logged in to Facebook, updated their status and waited for a few hours for someone to read it and call the authorities.
Not…. kidding……
Paul
May 23rd, 2011
10:41 am
USinUK
Be sure to check the spam folder.
poison pen
May 23rd, 2011
10:41 am
There will never be any in that land as long as that peace is structured on lies, theivery and injustice. So I guess in that since America and Israel are blood brothers.
Willie, would you rather us be friends with terrorists?
Joe Mama
May 23rd, 2011
10:41 am
straitroad — “Cain might not be a legitimate candidate for president, but that doesn’t seem to be a requirement any longer. The election of Obama proves that this nation will elect anyone, regardless of track record or proven experience. Cain may not be the best candidate, but at least he has nothing to hide and he is a true American. He is better on his worst day than Obama is on his best.”
If all that’s true, then why didn’t y’all try harder to draft Cain for Governor last year?
You could have gotten him elected instead of the walking indictment we’ve got, and Cain could have gotten some valuable governing experience for a later run at the presidency.
Frankly, I think all this talk from the right about how great Cain is and how wonderful a President he would be is just a bunch of wishful thinking paired with whistling past the graveyard. If he’s the best y’all have to offer, then I’m not worrying about 2012.
And no, I’m not afraid of him. By all means, get him nominated and run him against Obama. Please throw me in that briar patch, B’rer Fox.
jm
May 23rd, 2011
10:42 am
Jay, 10:39 – I think Boehner has been going out of his way to avoid being hyperpartisan. Now the rest (or a big chunk) of the Republican caucus, that is a different matter.
Good little liberal
May 23rd, 2011
10:43 am
Adam
As of JAn. 26, there were 729:
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/01/26/obamacare-waivers-jump-from-222-to-729-covering-2-2-million-employees/
Obama approved 204 more, just in the month of April:
http://www.redstate.com/laborunionreport/2011/05/19/pay-to-not-play-more-obamacare-waivers-pile-up/
So you still don’t believe there are more than 1,000?
Waterboarding:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703859304576305023876506348.html
USMC
May 23rd, 2011
10:43 am
“Seriously bummed Daniels is out, but I understand his decision…..”
Cheer up, Charlie. It won’t matter. General Secretary Obama will lose in 2012 anyway
DebbieDoRight
May 23rd, 2011
10:43 am
(like Obama’s campaign fundraising reform rules which he himself tossed out the window).
the bill is called McCain/Feingold — THEY are the ones who authored it! Do you even attempt to speak the truth at least once daily?
Good little liberal
May 23rd, 2011
10:44 am
Granny Godzilla
And yet another brilliant liberal argument.
stands for decibels
May 23rd, 2011
10:45 am
If you think tax breaks hurt the economy,
GLL, what were the top income tax rates when JFK made those speeches?
and what were they after they were finally lowered, after LBJ signed it into law?
Also, as a bonus: Do you ENJOY having your head ripped off and passers-by making doodie down your neck?
jt
May 23rd, 2011
10:46 am
Adam
May 23rd, 2011
10:30 am
Show of hands—anyone here actually believe that Obama didn’t know how many states we had, prior to when he made that campaign trail gaffe? Anyone?
Anyone?
Bueller?….
Bueller?…
I’ll play your game………………..the likes of Obama,and most of the GOP field……………….don’t CARE how many states there are. To them, and their like-minded sycophants, the U.S. is just ONE big state.
They adhere to the silly and dangerous belief that “federal law” trumps “state law”.The idea of a state within a state is anathema to a centralized statist.(mere speed bumps).
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Fortunantly, millions think otherwise and are accutely aware of our Declaration of Independence.
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Basically, Obama and company wish to Detroitize all fifty states.Good,decent, and independent people everywhere wish otherwise.
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Our only hope……………………………….Ron Paul.You will hear the people roar this leading up to 2012.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCFAzPl1QmE&feature=relmfu
(does anyone else hate that Veevo crap?)
jm
May 23rd, 2011
10:46 am
DDR – I was referring to Obama’s promise to adhere to the federal matching funds process for campaigns which implicitly limits the amount that can be raised. Which Obama threw out the window before he was 1/2 through with his 2008 campaign.