Herman Cain about to make it official

Later today, Atlanta’s own Herman Cain is scheduled to formally announce his candidacy for president in a rally at Centennial Olympic Park. I’ll be headed out shortly to watch the event in person.
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UPDATE: The rally went as planned, a nice event drawing a lot of nice people honestly concerned about their country. I’d estimate the turnout at around 1,200, which is certainly respectable for a political rally on a beautiful Saturday in May.

In his remarks, however, Cain estimated the turnout at 15,000 — I’m sorry, that isn’t even in the realm of possibility. In fact, I saw several people around me crane their necks, smile and shake their heads after Cain made that estimate. I guess it was a number thrown out to impress the TV audience, because nobody who was actually there in person would believe it.

Maybe it was the outdoor setting, or maybe Cain just got a bit overwhelmed by the occasion — after all, it’s not every day a man announces a run for president of the United States — but this wasn’t his best performance. Although he covered much the same ground as he did in his successful speech to the Georgia GOP a week ago, Cain’s remarks came across as disjointed. I doubt many people left that rally more enthusiastic for Cain than they were when they arrived, but then again, I’m not the target audience.

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Earlier this week, I wrote a column arguing that for all the fervor of his followers, Cain just isn’t a legitimate candidate for president. The response from many conservatives was harsh, including a lot of charges that I was a racist for daring to say such a terrible thing. In a voice message left on my office phone, one former longtime GOP state representative angrily told me that the column was one of the most racist things she had ever read and that I ought to be fired immediately.

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That theme also permeates the Twitter feed regarding Cain. In all those years in which conservatives complained about the antics of Al Sharpton, I simply didn’t understand that so much of it was driven by jealousy, and that if given the chance they would play the race card with a gusto that would make Sharpton look like Colin Powell. But that’s what has happened. Personally, I think the chance to fling the race card back into the faces of liberals is a pretty poor foundation for a presidential campaign, but many disagree.

Cain’s followers have also been trying to pressure Fox News, the arbiter of conservative legitimacy, to give Cain more coverage. But Charles Krauthammer and others on Fox seem to share my political analysis. As Krauthammer puts it, Cain’s candidacy is for “entertainment purposes only.” I wouldn’t go so far as that; I think the enthusiasm of many on the right for a man of Cain’s background tells us a lot about what’s going on in this country, and deserves attention. But he’s not a legitimate contender.

– Jay Bookman

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Midori

May 21st, 2011
11:23 am

i’ve said it a million times — THEY are the ONLY ones who are allowed to talk about race, and all its manifestations. Period.

Jay

May 21st, 2011
11:24 am

Well, midori, to be fair, they’d no doubt say the exact same thing about the left.

Midori

May 21st, 2011
11:32 am

however, Jay,

I take issue with the way they do it.

Your column on Cain last week was used to immediately yell racism, whereas racism had absolutely nothing to do with your concerns about Cain and/or his qualifications.

And I strongly believe that was their one and only motivation for putting Michael Steele in charge of the RNC.

They see race in each and every d(mn thing.

Why can’t people just be people?

Paul

May 21st, 2011
11:33 am

Going back to our ‘policy by sound bite’ discussion, is it any wonder that a new guy who speaks in sound bites would get such a warm reception?

Follows this description of Twilight’s Bella first day at the new school; all the boys are “acting like they’re in first grade and she’s the shiny new toy”

Midori

May 21st, 2011
11:36 am

Hi Paul :)

more planting/gardening on the slate today :)

Paul

May 21st, 2011
11:36 am

Morning, Midori!!! :-)

Oh, and Jay, your Georgia Legislature has finally done something worthwhile. Don’t know if it counts as redemption, but it’s a start.

http://www1.legis.ga.gov/legis/2011_12/versions/sr354_Read_and_adopted_LC_94_4472_2.htm

Moderate Line

May 21st, 2011
11:36 am

Let me see if I understand. Hemain Cain is not a serious canidate. Why? Because of his lack of political experience.

Obama Experience prior to president.
4 Years Senate
7 Years State Senator
Palin Experience
3 years governor
6 Mayor of a town of 7000
2 City council

I think both parties have set the bar pretty low.

Midori

May 21st, 2011
11:38 am

Paul,

I’m planting a hydrangea bush (3 gallon size) and some hostas. The blue hostas. I just love the ways the blue hostas leaves look.

Paul

May 21st, 2011
11:38 am

Midori

Planting anything new this year? Storms blew by yesterday here, just as well. Another day of work to get ahead before the trips.

I’ve always liked gardening. Best excuse a grownup has for playing in the dirt!

Bruno

May 21st, 2011
11:39 am

Personally, I think the chance to fling the race card back into the faces of liberals is a pretty poor foundation for a presidential campaign, but many disagree.

Jay–After being told for 3 1/2 years now that any criticism of Obama = racism, can you blame conservatives for relishing throwing the same silly charges back in the face of liberals??

For the record, I don’t think that Herman Cain is a viable candidate for President, which is somewhat different from saying that he’s not a legitimate candidate.

Bruno

May 21st, 2011
11:47 am

They see race in each and every d(mn thing.

Obviously perceptions differ, but in my experience, the politics of racial identity/division originates 90% from the Left. And while I’m sure that race-based policies such as Affirmative Action and Hate Crimes legislation were created with the best of intentions, the end result is a fractured society in which we can never move past racial identity.

Although the Republican Party was the driving force behind virtually all of the Civil Rights laws on the books, from the gitgo it has opposed labeling people and giving out special rewards for certain groups. The only way to ultimately move beyond race is to actually do it.

Moderate Line

May 21st, 2011
11:48 am

Personally, I think the chance to fling the race card back into the faces of liberals is a pretty poor foundation for a presidential campaign, but many disagree.
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How many times have we heard the criticism of Obama is based on racism. Even Jimmy Carter stated:

I think people who are guilty of that kind of personal attack against Obama have been influenced to a major degree by a belief that he should not be president because he happens to be African American.

People are saying the criticism of Cain is racist. People are not saying they are supporting him to throw the race card back at liberals.

I know people who like Cain and basically they like him because he is very good at articulating how they feel. He is not for me but I don’t think his appeal has nothing to do with throwing racism back at the left. I don not support the Tea Party agenda in general.

Moderate Line

May 21st, 2011
11:55 am

Bruno

May 21st, 2011
11:47 am
And while I’m sure that race-based policies such as Affirmative Action and Hate Crimes legislation were created with the best of intentions, the end result is a fractured society in which we can never move past racial identity.
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I believe your statement ignores the fact that we started out as a fractured society more than we are today. Our soceity although still fractured has made steady improvements towards being less fractured. The reason many ar reluctant to get rid of affirmative action is because that steady improvement was accomplished while implementing affirmative action and the civil rights laws.

southdem

May 21st, 2011
12:00 pm

No, Cain’s not viable, nor is he legitimate. He’s a candidate of rage tapping into the frustration of a political party that’s losing ground everywhere in the country (look at the latest polls in Wisconsin, Ohio, Florida, and other states that elected Tea Partiers last November) except the deep South. And the only reason the Deep South is sticking with the GOP is the nearly 50 years of pandering to racism that ruined a formerly honorable political party. Do you think for a minute the GOP will jeopardize its one remaining power base by nominating a black guy??? The GOP is a rump party (polite substitute for what it really is) that will lose any power it gained in 2010 in 2012, 2014, and so on. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Bruno

May 21st, 2011
12:03 pm

I believe your statement ignores the fact that we started out as a fractured society more than we are today.

Not at all, ML. I understand the concept of using Affirmative Action as a bridge to go from a terrible time in our society to a more fair situation. As a kid in the 1960s and 1970s, I accepted that. But now, nearly 50 years later, I’m wondering at what point we need to simply start treating everyone as an equal.

Midori

May 21st, 2011
12:31 pm

Good riddance to bad rubbish

love the way that just rolls off the tongue

Dusty

May 21st, 2011
12:35 pm

Well, some people like Cain and some people don’t. The most talk I’ve seen in print on racism is from Jay Bookman who loves to make a good fight when there isn’t one.. He even quotes “Twitter” remarks . What next? Enquirer reports. (He’s already thrown a little trash at Fox.)

Good point, BRUNO. “I’m wondering at what point we need to simply start treating everyone as an equal.” Let us do so with Cain and just listen to what he says and what he wants.

It isn’t racism that stirs Bookman. It is the fact that Cain is an interesting REPUBLICAN. So what’s new???

Kamchak

May 21st, 2011
12:41 pm

Well, some people like Cain and some people don’t.

And some of us don’t give a rat’s ass one way or the other.

TaxPayer

May 21st, 2011
12:46 pm

Well, I think Herman Cain is as good a Republican presidential candidate as any other one that has stepped forward to date. Republicans should show their support for the man and pick him in their primaries. That’ll show those racists out there, whomever they are.

getalife

May 21st, 2011
12:46 pm

Another carnival barker but I guess Centennial Park is a good place to be when it all ends :)

Dusty

May 21st, 2011
12:48 pm

Yes, Kamchak, we know.

I repeat: Cain is a Republican. So you don’t give a …………

Dusty

May 21st, 2011
12:53 pm

Sure, TAXPAYER, Republicans will be all for him if we think he is the right man for the job. That’s what you were implying, wasn’t it?

Mr. Snarky

May 21st, 2011
12:53 pm

“Vote for me and prove you’re not a racist!”…it has a nice ring to it

Kamchak

May 21st, 2011
12:54 pm

I repeat: Cain is a Republican. So you don’t give a …

“Republican” ain’t got nothing to do with it.

Mr. Snarky

May 21st, 2011
12:55 pm

It’s ironic that conservatives accused libs of voting for Obama to assuage their guilt about race…I gotta say that this, on the surface ain’t much different

Stan

May 21st, 2011
12:55 pm

Midori is a great example of the left and right extremes. “they” are the problem and “we/I” have it all figured out. “They” are mean and “we” are good. Childish at best.

Bottom line. Herman Cain puts his hat into the Presidential race. This act requires a lot of time, money, and sacrifice. Mr. Cain will many opportunities to prove himself as to all the factors that lead to legitimacy or not. It should not matter if he is short, fat, green, or yellow- it just is.

Dusty

May 21st, 2011
1:02 pm

Mr. Snarky,

What “guilt about race”? Nope. We got over THAT one. Now Republicans are supposed to feel “guilt” over illegal immigrants because we want legal immigrants. Keep up with the times.

Dave R.

May 21st, 2011
1:03 pm

““Republican” ain’t got nothing to do with it.”

Yeah, right. And the Zapruder film proved that JFK shot first.

getalife

May 21st, 2011
1:04 pm

Ruined a pizza as a pizza maker and then turned radio entertainer.

Yeah, he is a joke.

Dave R.

May 21st, 2011
1:04 pm

I hate to clue Jay and others in this one simple fact: Fox News pundits are NOT the arbiters as to who is or is not a legitimate or viable candidate. Nor are opinion columnists from Georgia.

The voters are.

They determined that the least qualified person to ever run for President in 2008 was legitimate, and we’ve been living with THAT error for 2+ years.

Mr. Snarky

May 21st, 2011
1:05 pm

To say that republicans have race based guilt would imply they have a conscience…I would never do that. However the messaging from Cain does imply race based voting, which was my point.

md

May 21st, 2011
1:06 pm

Hear Hear Bruno……….as long as we (society) use labels to identify, we will remain divided by said labels………….it is the nature of an identifier………

If I use the “phrase “s/he’s an American”, all Americans fit the description, add in identifiers, and the division begins………….

Dusty

May 21st, 2011
1:11 pm

Mr Snarky,

Saying that Republicans have no conscience shows your prejudice in neon lights. Same ol: Republicans BAD!!! Democrats GOOD! What a surprise!!

THE TRUTH

May 21st, 2011
1:16 pm

Dave R.

May 21st, 2011
1:04 pm
I hate to clue Jay and others in this one simple fact: Fox News pundits are NOT the arbiters as to who is or is not a legitimate or viable candidate. Nor are opinion columnists from Georgia.

The voters are.

They determined that the least qualified person to ever run for President in 2008 was legitimate, and we’ve been living with THAT error for 2+ years

I second that.

Dusty

May 21st, 2011
1:20 pm

Yes, md, we of the USA are all Americans. And I’m proud to be one. APPLAUSE because today is ARMED FORCES DAY and we appreciate the sacrifices they make . Wherever they are, it is still for us.

Mr. Snarky

May 21st, 2011
1:25 pm

Dusty,
I wouldn’t say that republicans have no conscience. Some of my best friends are republicans (snicker snicker) and they generally have consciences, however I see very very little evidence of it from their policy choices supported by those in power. Republican policy choices generally support those elites who don’t need support but are greedy and seek it anyway.
Good day.

TaxPayer

May 21st, 2011
1:28 pm

The Talk Radio Party is gonna have to make a decision eventually and if Herman meets all their qualifications for president then they need to show their support.

USMC

May 21st, 2011
1:38 pm

“The response from many conservatives was harsh, including a lot of charges that I was a racist for daring to say such a terrible thing.”–Jay Bookman

Jay Bookman, you are a R@ci$t for disagreeing with Herman Cain because he is Black and you are White.
—-straight from the Liberal/Marxist playbook

(I know that Jay Bookman is not a R@cist, but I only used this example to prove a point)

Bill Orvis White

May 21st, 2011
1:46 pm

Herman Cain WILL be in the White House in January 2013 when an End of an Error happens. I will be there for the Cain inauguration along with Roosevelt.

Today’s speech was worth the drive. It was the most inspiring speech ever given. I walked away knowing that an Opportunity Society will replace our Entitlement Society very soon. I walked away knowing that a FAIR Tax system will replace our UNFAIR, confusing tax code very soon. I walked away knowing that ObamaCare will soon be replaced by a free market-based system whereby I get to choose whether to go to a doctor or not!

All you liberal naysayers out there are wrong. I also cannot believe Mr. Krauthammer. I needs to watch this speech with an open mind.

Amen,
Bill

Mr. Snarky

May 21st, 2011
1:53 pm

Hey Cain supporters,
If Cain is so great, why couldn’t he win the Republican nomination for GA’s US Senate seat a few years ago? Hmmmmm? What’s changed besides Obama being President?

getalife

May 21st, 2011
1:57 pm

The tea party took being called racists hard because it was the truth but they are taking on the gop business establishment.

It is much easier to write a pol a check to get what you want than start a movement.

So, I say fight corporate power tea party.

Good luck with that.

stands for decibels

May 21st, 2011
1:58 pm

After being told for 3 1/2 years now that any criticism of Obama = racism

any criticism?

hyperbole much?

USMC

May 21st, 2011
2:00 pm

“The response from many conservatives was harsh, including a lot of charges that I was a racist for daring to say such a terrible thing.”

Scratching that R@cist Itch of yours, huh Jay? :-)

Dave R.

May 21st, 2011
2:01 pm

“What’s changed besides Obama being President?”

Missed the last 7 years, did ya, Snarky?

An economy in the toilet, ever rising debt and deficits, the black ceiling being shattered and a clear contrast between someone who has answers (Cain) and someone who doesn’t (Hope & Punt ™ ).

Dave R.

May 21st, 2011
2:03 pm

“The tea party took being called racists hard because it was the truth”

Proof?

Didn’t think so.

stands for decibels

May 21st, 2011
2:04 pm

one former longtime GOP state representative angrily told me that the column was one of the most racist things she had ever read and that I ought to be fired immediately.

anyone besides me want to know the identity of this former representative/current d-bag?

stands for decibels

May 21st, 2011
2:05 pm

Herman Cain will never be President. and the Fair Tax will never be the law of this land.

(Figured I’d get those out of the way.)

Dave R.

May 21st, 2011
2:09 pm

“I doubt many people left that rally more enthusiastic for Cain than they were when they arrived, but then again, I’m not the target audience.”

Yeah, Herman’s going after people with open minds. ;)

stands for decibels

May 21st, 2011
2:15 pm

About those charges of racism that were supposedly ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS leveled by meanieheaded lefties against those poor, misunderstood, just-wanna-not-be-taxed-so-durned-much TPers?

Here is probably the best-known, highest-level charge of “racism” leveled at TPers, courtesy of Jimmy Carter:

“I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man.”

my first reaction was “yeah, who knows for sure, but yeah. Within the rather narrow conditions set down in that statement–’intensely demonstrated animosity’–probably right.”

but apparently there’s something controversial here. so over the past year and a half or so, years I’ve read this statement several times, thought about it, and every time I take away the same thing–while I might not express the sentiment in quite the same way, I figure if a guy who has been around and seen some of the worst that this country has had to offer in the way of Jim Crow, a segregated military, etc., who winds up feeling that way, you take him at his word and you don’t cry about how boo-hoo-freeking-unfair it all is.

YMMV.

Jay

May 21st, 2011
2:15 pm

I posted this as an update above:

The rally went as planned, a nice event drawing a lot of nice people honestly concerned about their country. I’d estimate the turnout at around 1,200, which is certainly respectable for a political rally on a beautiful Saturday in May.

In his remarks, however, Cain estimated the turnout at 15,000 — I’m sorry, that isn’t even in the realm of possibility. In fact, I saw several people around me crane their necks, smile and shake their heads after Cain made that estimate. I guess it was a number thrown out to impress the TV audience, because nobody who was actually there in person would believe it.

Maybe it was the outdoor setting, or maybe Cain just got a bit overwhelmed by the occasion — after all, it’s not every day a man announces a run for president of the United States — but this wasn’t his best performance. Although he covered much the same ground as he did in his successful speech to the Georgia GOP a week ago, Cain’s remarks came across as disjointed, without a central theme. I doubt many people left that rally more enthusiastic for Cain than they were when they arrived, but then again, I’m not the target audience.

USMC

May 21st, 2011
2:17 pm

“Herman Cain will never be President. and the Fair Tax will never be the law of this land.”
–Stands for decibels

You R@cist Dixiecrat Liberals said the same thing about Civil Rights, BUT we Republicans got Civil Rights passed into LAW.

TaxPayer

May 21st, 2011
2:18 pm

former longtime GOP state representative

“Former!” As in “fired.”

liberalefty

May 21st, 2011
2:18 pm

wow 30 people showed up…yawn

Jay

May 21st, 2011
2:19 pm

Oh, and they were also selling pizza there.

Papa John’s.

Mighty Righty

May 21st, 2011
2:22 pm

Right now, every Republican canidate for President is more qualified than Barack Obama is even after two and a half years in the White House. Just the last three days he has proven to be inept in handling international relations. He arrogantly insulted our best friend in the middle east by appearing to suck up to our enemies. Instead, his ignorance of diplomacy resulted in not only making Israel mad but the Palistinians as well. His policy has been anti Israel, pro Hamas/Palistinian. Its amazing. In about three sentences, he may have set back negotiations between Israel and Palistine indefinitely. His adoring media is attempting to mitigate the damage caused by his thoughtless remarks by pretending he was only expressing Bush’s policy. Isn’t that great, now Bush is responsible for what Obama says. An honest analysis of Obama’s actions of the last few days is all the evidence one needs to realize almost anyone will be an improvement.

stands for decibels

May 21st, 2011
2:22 pm

The GOP is a rump party (polite substitute for what it really is) that will lose any power it gained in 2010 in 2012, 2014.

hmm. maybe, but I give gerrymandering, in-your-face voter disenfranchisement programs, and wedge-issue driven voter stupidity a lot more credit than you do.

liberalefty

May 21st, 2011
2:24 pm

@usmc

yeah CAIN lied..

liberalefty

May 21st, 2011
2:24 pm

CAIN said he will be a racist president…no MUSLIMS in his administration…

USMC

May 21st, 2011
2:26 pm

“In his remarks, however, Cain estimated the turnout at 15,000 — I’m sorry, that isn’t even in the realm of possibility.”–Jay Bookman

Kind of like the MILLION MAN MARCH, huh?

Jay

May 21st, 2011
2:28 pm

Don’t know, USMC, I wasn’t there.

Were you?

I must say, though, I’m impressed by the speed in which many on the right can play the “oh yeah, well what about XXXXXX!” game to divert attention from the actual topic at hand.

TaxPayer

May 21st, 2011
2:29 pm

Given the poor turnout to show support for this Republican candidate that, according to the posts from the Republicans, meets and exceeds all their requirements and expectations for the Office of the President, I must rightfully conclude that the majority of Republicans are simply racists.

Mighty Righty

May 21st, 2011
2:29 pm

I doubt many people left that rally more enthusiastic for Cain than they were when they arrived, but then again, I’m not the target audience.

Now Jay, I am shocked you aren’t more enthisiastic. Not even a tingle up your leg?

USMC

May 21st, 2011
2:29 pm

“…remarks came across as disjointed, without a central theme.”

Sounds more like Obama….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxBX8sz3tO8

Jay

May 21st, 2011
2:30 pm

Mighty, only my wife is allowed to give me tingles.

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

May 21st, 2011
2:31 pm

Jay:

Anyone who says anything against Obama or his policies is according to liberals a racist.

Welcome to the club !!!

USMC

May 21st, 2011
2:33 pm

“I guess it was a number thrown out to impress the TV audience, because nobody who was actually there in person would believe it.”–Jay Bookman

Maybe he is taking a cue from Obama with regard to “throwing out” numbers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMo0WlSvrIY

…I still don’t believe there are 57 states; regardless of what Comrade Obama says

Brosephus

May 21st, 2011
2:33 pm

Thought I’d get this out before commenting on the topic:

Let me see if I understand. Hemain Cain is not a serious canidate. Why? Because of his lack of political experience.

Obama Experience prior to president.
4 Years Senate
7 Years State Senator
Palin Experience
3 years governor
6 Mayor of a town of 7000
2 City council

I think both parties have set the bar pretty low.

Au Contraire. That’s 11 years each holding ELECTED offices.

Herman Cain’s elected office experience = 0!!!!

Seems like some in the GOP are trying to set the bar low. I wonder how those who attacked Obama and Palin on their non-experience really feel about Cain’s political experience…

On topic:

Sometimes people need to shut the hell up about racism. People tend to get racism and bigotry confused and they are two separate things that can not be used interchangably. I hope the rapture comes and takes all y’all angst stirrers away so us moderate people can live in peace. :)

stands for decibels

May 21st, 2011
2:34 pm

I’m impressed by the speed in which many on the right can play the “oh yeah, well what about XXXXXX!”

and I’m impressed by their farm-fresh analogies–the 1995 march, the 1964 civil rights act…

TaxPayer

May 21st, 2011
2:34 pm

If only Kyle had been there. He could have chanted “Fair Tax, Fair Tax…” and really made that rally start to hop.

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

May 21st, 2011
2:34 pm

An older man, not in the best physical condition, asked the trainer at the gym he went to, “I want to impress a beautiful lady I recently met. Which machine should I use?

“The trainer replied, “Use the ATM machine in the lobby.”

stands for decibels

May 21st, 2011
2:34 pm

they are two separate things that can not be used interchangably.

I’m telling you–re-education camps. only way to fix this.

Mighty Righty

May 21st, 2011
2:35 pm

liberalefty

May 21st, 2011
2:18 pm
wow 30 people showed up…yawn

If a Democrat falls in a forrest, will anyone hear it?

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

May 21st, 2011
2:36 pm

“I DON’T NEED YOUR PERMISSION”

“In an effort to satisfy those arguing he needs to seek congressional authorization to continue US military activity in accordance with the War Powers Resolution, President Obama wrote a letter to congressional leaders this afternoon suggesting that the role is now so “limited” he does not need to seek congressional approval.”

JAY:

Agree or Disagree ?

larry

May 21st, 2011
2:39 pm

He didnt have his own pizza at the rally ? What kind of businessman doesnt sell his own product at his own rally?

TaxPayer

May 21st, 2011
2:42 pm

A Democrat fell in a forest of Republicans and yelled out, “Help, I’ve fallen and I can’t get up,” but to no avail. Distraught at the lack of caring, the Democrat changed her strategy and yelled out, “FairTax,” and people lifted her up above their shoulders and carried her away to a safe location and showered here with praise whereby she responded, “Suckers.” When the crowd looked back at her with their angry expressions, they saw her extended hands filled with sugary candy and once again she was showered with praise. “The suckers,” she exclaimed, “they’re Dum Dums.”

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

May 21st, 2011
2:45 pm

This should be a punishment for Plebe infractions not for graduating Cadets !!!

http://www.military.com/news/article/first-lady-addresses-west-point-class-of-2011.html

Mighty Righty

May 21st, 2011
2:45 pm

Not only was the nomination bar set low, but now the presidents performance bar is set impossiby low. Every category by which a President is measured is at an all time low but still acceptable to liberals. I never thought I would live to see another President as bad as Jimmy Carter. however, Obama has managed to be worse. Whew!

Mighty Righty

May 21st, 2011
2:48 pm

Taxpayer-I too am opposed to the so called fair tax. I do find it interesting to find a Democrat that actually pays taxes.

AmVet

May 21st, 2011
2:52 pm

Scout, you and Dusty are still here! That’s great! I think…

It would seem Mr. Cain went to the Glenn Beck School for Estimating Crowd Sizes. (eye roll)

A Muslim-averse, radio talking head with a penchant for saying idiotic things for president???

Puhleeze.

I suspect he knows his candidacy is only for show and to get some cred in some other role.

Let’s put it this way, boys and girls, who is the ONLY man in our nation’s history to have become the Commander in Chief and who NEVER ran for any previous political office?

Dwight David Eisenhower.

And all he ever did was act as Supreme Allied Commander in Europe whilst beating back the Nazi Wehrmacht.

Herman Cain, on the other hand, has run a pizza chain.

Preposterous with a capital P…

What a beautiful day for not being raptured (or ruptured), though…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cin0QzuEss

TaxPayer

May 21st, 2011
2:52 pm

Herman needs your support, Scout. Can he count on your vote.

USMC

May 21st, 2011
2:53 pm

“A Democrat fell in a forest of Republicans and yelled out, “Help, I’ve fallen and I can’t get up,” but to no avail. Distraught at the lack of caring, the Democrat changed her strategy and yelled out, “FairTax,” and people lifted her up above their shoulders and carried her away to a safe location and showered here with praise whereby she responded, “Suckers.” When the crowd looked back at her with their angry expressions, they saw her extended hands filled with sugary candy and once again she was showered with praise. “The suckers,” she exclaimed, “they’re Dum Dums.””

Typical….. DISHONEST LIBERAL/MARXIST HATRED from the Left…
–Nothing new here, folks

Midori

May 21st, 2011
2:56 pm

and Stan is a good example of a know nothing, fire breathing parrot.

Brosephus

May 21st, 2011
2:56 pm

I do find it interesting to find a Democrat that actually pays taxes.

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TaxPayer

May 21st, 2011
2:57 pm

I too am opposed to the so called fair tax. I do find it interesting to find a Democrat that actually pays taxes.

Someone’s gotta pay for Scout’s internet connection.

Mighty Righty

May 21st, 2011
2:58 pm

Michelle Obama in her speech to the West Point Cadets used a term, “ferocious intellect.” Can someone tell me what in the h–l that means?

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

May 21st, 2011
2:58 pm

Dr. Manning NAILED it 3 years ago ! Amazing !

“Give Me Osama, I’ll Give you the Jews”

http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com/forum/topic/show?id=2600775%3ATopic%3A3898612&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic

poison pen

May 21st, 2011
3:00 pm

Jay

May 21st, 2011
2:28 pm
Don’t know, USMC, I wasn’t there.

Were you?

I must say, though, I’m impressed by the speed in which many on the right can play the “oh yeah, well what about XXXXXX!” game to divert attention from the actual topic at hand.

Jay, and I suppose the left doesn’t?

Maybe we should pass a law to make the R word illegal.

Midori

May 21st, 2011
3:00 pm

Anyone who says anything against Obama or his policies is according to liberals a racist.

would you call this racist, Scout?

Barrow County deputy resigns after questions raised about Facebook postings

A captain with the Barrow County Sheriff’s Office saw his career begin to unravel a few weeks ago after he posted on his personal page on Facebook.com comments about President Obama, using terms like “towel headed” and “camel jockey.”

Smith said it became an issue for him when Rusgrove identified himself as an official with the sheriff’s office.

The comment thread on Facebook.com began as a discussion about “gas being $6 a gallon this summer and he called the Democratic Party ‘damocrats,’ ” Smith said. “He referenced our president as a camel jockey and made reference to African Americans backing their president. He referred to gays, baby killers and pot heads not blaming President Obama for the gas prices.”

well Scout?

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

May 21st, 2011
3:01 pm

Food for thought:

“Presidents who were members of the KKK:

President Warren G. Harding, President Woodrow Wilson, President McKinley, President Calvin Coolidge, and President Harry S. Truman.

Supreme Court Justice members: Hugo Black (no pun intended).”

TaxPayer

May 21st, 2011
3:01 pm

USMC,

Herman needs your support for the presidency. Can he count on your vote.

Kamchak

May 21st, 2011
3:02 pm

Food for thought:

Junk food.

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

May 21st, 2011
3:03 pm

Midori:

You are not listening.

Anyone who disagrees with a black politician’s policies (liberal or conservative) is a racist !

You liberals set the rule.

USMC

May 21st, 2011
3:04 pm

“I too am opposed to the so called fair tax. I do find it interesting to find a Democrat that actually pays taxes.”

Democrats DO pay taxes when they cash their welfare check at the Liquor Store and purchase a carton of Kool cigarettes; they pay sales tax :-)

TaxPayer

May 21st, 2011
3:05 pm

Did Herman show everyone in that crowd of supporters his long form birth certificate.

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

May 21st, 2011
3:07 pm

Midoiri:

Free speech is fast escaping us …………………. kind of sad.

Midori

May 21st, 2011
3:07 pm

I’m listening just fine Scout.

Seems you are just dishonest as all h*ll.

I copied your statement word for word.

You ignored my post, and then tried to move the goal post.

You conservative bomb throwers just keep changing the rules.

Thulsa Doom

May 21st, 2011
3:08 pm

Someone’s gotta pay for Scout’s internet connection.- Taxpayer

Taxes pay for someone’s internet connection? Who knew? I’ve seen where taxes pay for the parasite’s education, section 8 housing, food stamps, medical care-medicaid, but I aint ever seen taxes pay for internet connections.

Dave R.

May 21st, 2011
3:08 pm

“Michelle Obama in her speech to the West Point Cadets used a term, “ferocious intellect.” Can someone tell me what in the h–l that means?”

I’ll bet they just loved being spoken to by the wife of the CinC. :roll:

poison pen

May 21st, 2011
3:08 pm

USMC

May 21st, 2011
2:33 pm
“I guess it was a number thrown out to impress the TV audience, because nobody who was actually there in person would believe it.”–Jay Bookman

Maybe he is taking a cue from Obama with regard to “throwing out” numbers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMo0WlSvrIY

…I still don’t believe there are 57 states; regardless of what Comrade Obama says

USMC, you must not be a lib otherwise you would know that to be the truth.

ODDOWL

May 21st, 2011
3:08 pm

Herman Cain and Eye of Newt Gingrich have decided to step into the ring with the BIG DOG and run for President. But as soon as the BIG DOG jump on their a$$e$ and begin to tear them limb from limb, Cain and Gingrich begin bitching and moaning, whining, whining, whining. All the Republican candidates for President are feminized, crybaby woooooses. When the Democrats attack Republicans, they retreat into their feminine side and hide underneath their Wives skirts. All the sissified Republican candidates will crash and burn in the wake of the Master of the Predator Drone.