Cornel West yanks Obama’s credentials as a black man

I just finished reading Princeton academic Cornel West’s diatribe against Barack Obama, in which West complains that “my dear brother Barack Obama has a certain fear of free black men” and calls Obama “a black mascot of Wall Street oligarchs and a black puppet of corporate plutocrats.”

West frames his disenchantment in terms of class struggle, and argues that Obama has chosen the wrong side, selling out less fortunate Americans in return for the favor of the powerful.

“The escalation of the class war against the poor and the working class is intense,” West writes. “More and more working people are beaten down. They are world-weary. They are into self-medication. They are turning on each other. They are scapegoating the most vulnerable rather than confronting the most powerful.”

“When you look at a society you look at it through the lens of the least of these, the weak and the vulnerable; you are committed to loving them first, not exclusively, but first, and therefore giving them priority,” West writes.

Many on the left do criticize Obama for being too mainstream and insufficiently aggressive on behalf of those less fortunate. While that debate is legitimate, I think those who make such claims are for the most part politically naive about Obama himself and about the political environment in which he operates. But again, it is a legitimate topic of discussion. The issue of whether Obama has been too gentle with Wall Street and its supporters is particularly pertinent, given their role in creating our current predicament.

But West does not discuss it legitimately.

In West’s account, Obama has sided with the rich and powerful in part because he “feels most comfortable with upper middle-class white and Jewish men who consider themselves very smart, very savvy and very effective in getting what they want.” But as in most rants, this one includes a tell, an unwitting revelation of its deeper motivation.

“I used to call my dear brother [Obama] every two weeks. I said a prayer on the phone for him, especially before a debate. And I never got a call back. And when I ran into him in the state Capitol in South Carolina when I was down there campaigning for him he was very kind. The first thing he told me was, ‘Brother West, I feel so bad. I haven’t called you back. You been calling me so much. You been giving me so much love, so much support and what have you.’ And I said, ‘I know you’re busy.’ But then a month and half later I would run into other people on the campaign and he’s calling them all the time. I said, wow, this is kind of strange. He doesn’t have time, even two seconds, to say thank you or I’m glad you’re pulling for me and praying for me, but he’s calling these other people. I said, this is very interesting. And then as it turns out with the inauguration I couldn’t get a ticket with my mother and my brother. I said this is very strange. We drive into the hotel and the guy who picks up my bags from the hotel has a ticket to the inauguration. My mom says, ‘That’s something that this dear brother can get a ticket and you can’t get one, honey, all the work you did for him from Iowa.’ Beginning in Iowa to Ohio. We had to watch the thing in the hotel.”

When you committed to “look at a society … through the lens of the least of these, the weak and the vulnerable,” when “you are committed to loving them first … and therefore giving them priority,” you do not whine that the lowly person picking up your bags for you in your very expensive DC hotel somehow wrangled a ticket to the inauguration, while you, the very well-paid Ivy League academic and cultural star who walks among the elite, did not. You cannot attack another for seeking the trappings of power while complaining that you yourself were not supplied the trappings to which you feel yourself entitled.

Or if you do, you give the game away.

As Adam Serwer points out in The American Prospect, West also claims the self-anointed power to confirm or withdraw Obama’s standing as an authentic black man. West withdraws it on the basis of Obama’s ability to feel “at home” “with upper middle-class white and Jewish men” while allegedly harboring “fear of free black men.”

Serwer concludes:

“This remark made me wonder: Which of these men do you think is actually free, and which afraid of who he truly is?”

– Jay Bookman

846 comments Add your comment

Themistocles (a.k.a. Left Wing Mgmt)

May 19th, 2011
10:32 am

Peadawg

May 19th, 2011
10:37 am

godless heathen

May 19th, 2011
10:38 am

A Princeton academic – that explains a lot.

Mary Elizabeth

May 19th, 2011
10:39 am

Both Obama and West battle for underdogs in society. They come at it from different vantage points. They have bigger battles to fight, in that regard, than each other. I am sure Obama knows this. Check out the following link about the coordination of corporate interests making inroads in all 50 state legislatures in our nation. This is what power does, stealthily.

See this link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/43070587#43070587

ty webb

May 19th, 2011
10:40 am

I had the misfortune of sitting through one of Dr. West’s diatribes in college…if anyone belongs in the world of “academia”, it’s him, for he couldn’t survive in a marketplace of free ideas.

Granny Godzilla

May 19th, 2011
10:41 am

I read this West pieces the other day and have been following the
various responses….

My favorite – Dr. Melissa Harris-Perry’s:

Excerpted here

This caught my eye…

“I think my dear brother Barack Obama has a certain fear of free black men… It’s understandable. As a young brother who grows up in a white context, brilliant African father, he’s always had to fear being a white man with black skin. All he has known culturally is white. He is just as human as I am, but that is his cultural formation.”

This comment is utter hilarity coming from Cornel West who has spent the bulk of his adulthood living in those deeply rooted, culturally rich, historically important black communities of Cambridge, MA and Princeton, NJ. And it is hard to see his claim that Obama is “most comfortable with upper middle-class white and Jewish men who consider themselves very smart, very savvy and very effective in getting what they” as anything other than a classic projection of his own comfortably ensconced life at Harvard and Princeton Universities. Harvard and Princeton are not places that are particularly noted for their liberating history for black men.

As tenured professors Cornel West and I are not meaningfully accountable, no matter what our love, commitment, or self-delusions tell us. President Obama, as an elected official, can, in fact, be voted out of his job. We can’t. That is a difference that matters. As West derides the President’s economic policies he remains silent on his friend Tavis Smiley’s relationship with Wal-Mart, Wells Fargo, and McDonald’s—all corporations whose invasive and predatory actions in poor and black communities have been the target of progressive organizing for decades. I have never heard him take Tavis Smiley to task for helping convince black Americans to enter into predatory mortgages. I’ve never heard him ask whether Tavis’ decision to publish R. Kelley’s memoirs might be a less than progressive decision. He doesn’t hold Tavis accountable because Tavis is his friend and he is loyal. I respect that, but I also know that if he were in elected office the could not get off so easily.”

Peadawg

May 19th, 2011
10:41 am

Dr. West sounds as crazy as Jesse Jackson.

jconservative

May 19th, 2011
10:44 am

“We had to watch the thing in the hotel.”

Sounds like Newt’s “I had to get off the plane from the rear door”.

Themistocles (a.k.a. Left Wing Mgmt)

May 19th, 2011
10:47 am

Ouch. I think you’re spot on, Jay. One of the most brutal columns you’ve written.

Whether it’s Newt Gingrich or Cornell West, blindness and an inability to see the position in which one is standing creates a tragicomic distortion in a person’s discourse. Something of that is going on here and explains why West’s pleas ring so hollow.

There’s also something frankly slightly ominous in how he drops the word “Jewish” in his language. I wonder what he means to do by this.

Jay

May 19th, 2011
10:47 am

My thought exactly, jcon.

ty webb

May 19th, 2011
10:49 am

Granny,
Nice! I enjoyed the piece you posted from Dr. Harris-Perry. I disagree with her on most things, but she nailed this one. Kudos!

Chris

May 19th, 2011
10:50 am

he must be a racist since he disagrees with Obama’s policies. oh wait, that’s just white people who disagree with Obama’s policies. how foolish of me.

BADA BING

May 19th, 2011
10:50 am

obama took a page from the Clinton manual. Throw away after use.

Adam

May 19th, 2011
10:51 am

Jeez. Must we take a page from the Right Wing and have our own infighting now? This is all very absurd, but I think that’s obvious. What exactly is his point anyway? So Obama didn’t grow up like a stereotypical black person? So what?

It’s like I said before, racists ONLY see his skin color and could care less about his ACTUAL background. Ignorant people choose to ignore his actual background in favor of their preconceived notions that border on racism (affirmative action) or religious bigotry (madrassa/Kenya nonsense)… OR are just plain stupid notions of what his background actually is (the silver spoon argument). The facts are pretty easy to find, and West uses those facts to make a racially based conclusion. This is definitely a WTF.

It seems that West took a story of what he viewed as a personal slight to him and extrapolated it out to a class war within the black community, and created something like a “No True Scotsman” argument. How annoying. How stupid.

John Birch

May 19th, 2011
10:51 am

West, of ccourse, is essentially correct. Obama went from bag boy for Daley to bag man for Goldman Sachs. Even the extremely liberal Michael Moore will tell you that’s the truth.

Themistocles (a.k.a. Left Wing Mgmt)

May 19th, 2011
10:52 am

Decline of the West

By the way, here’s a savage, and hilarious, dismantling of the “decline” of Cornell West as a serious thinker and academic in recent years and adds further evidence to the same personal piques mentioned in Jay’s piece.

Cornel West’s work was once bold, challenging, exciting. The past tense here is unavoidable. His critical edge and creative powers might yet be reborn (he is 56). But in the wake of his latest book, Brother West: Living and Loving Out Loud, this hope requires a considerable leap of faith. Published by Hay House, the book also bears a second subtitle: “A Memoir.” It is the most disappointing thing I have read in at least a year.

This is not the intellectual autobiography West promised a decade ago. In essence it is a fawning celebrity profile — one in which reporter and superstar have somehow fused into a single first-person voice. And in fact that turns out to be quite literally true. In the final pages, West pays tribute to David Ritz, his collaborator, who has undertaken similar projects with Marvin Gaye and Grandmaster Flash, among others

http://www.insidehighered.com/views/mclemee/mclemee267

Marco Small III

May 19th, 2011
10:54 am

Bookman, you are afraid of free black men too. Just as I said two days ago, you’re questioning Cain’s legitimacy as a presidential candidate is rooted in your fear of a black man that doesn’t have white blood. Even if he is completly wrong in his political beliefs, which Cain is.

You are as bigoted as they come. I know you’re type, liberal white man, but deep down don’t want your children socializing with black people. Your rant again West’s legitimacy just further proves my point. I see that your word ‘legitimacy’ is coming from a racist place in your heart.

Themistocles (a.k.a. Left Wing Mgmt)

May 19th, 2011
10:55 am

Hi Mary Elizabeth, I wanted to thank you for your thoughtful reply the other day to my earlier comments. I didn’t notice your posts until much later.

jewcowboy

May 19th, 2011
10:56 am

What’s with all the “brother” talk? Is this 1973?

BADA BING

May 19th, 2011
10:56 am

He finally woke up from his spellbound rapture of obama. A lot of people are doing that lately. Hollywood is deserting him in droves.

liberalefty

May 19th, 2011
10:57 am

why dont WEST say what he really means; Hes saying that OBAMA isnt black enough. West is just another intellectual talking head who really thinks he makes a difference from his IVORY TOWER. why dont[Wwest] take his supposedly superior talents to a black school? Its because HE considers black schools inferior thats why. Hes just an arm chair revolutionary who thinks hes “down for the cause” but in reality a useless talkative figurehead for the psuedo revolutionaries.

Themistocles (a.k.a. Left Wing Mgmt)

May 19th, 2011
10:58 am

jewcowboy: “What’s with all the “brother” talk? Is this 1973?”

LOL. Good point. :)

shawny

May 19th, 2011
10:58 am

Who is this West joker and why do we feel compelled to express his viewpoint? He sounds disconnected from reality.

It is always humorous to hear those that pit the poor unfortunate people against the big bad corporations. They play the us against them card too frequently. They fail to understand what drives the economy and creates jobs. It is not the govt. It is not the unions.

Anyone ever get a job from a poor person? Bueller? Bueller?

AmVet

May 19th, 2011
11:00 am

VERY interesting topic.

As some of you know, I have very strong opinions along these lines, but alas, can only pop in for a moment.

It is humorous though, that the capricious cons don’t know which way to twist on this one. (Do I agree? Do I disagree? How can I figure out a way that both men are “wrong”?)

I’ll try to post some fleshed-out thoughts later.

Enjoy the day, folks…

liberalefty

May 19th, 2011
11:00 am

PO PO WEST…he missed his BLACK PANTHER calling…lol

Mary Elizabeth

May 19th, 2011
11:01 am

From the article above:

“The issue of whether Obama has been too gentle with Wall Street and its supporters is particularly pertinent, given their role in creating our current predicament.”
___________________________________________

A valid question to be asked.

However, I still maintain that the following words from Paul Krugman’s column in the NY Times 2/22/10 called, “The Bankruptcy Boys,” target the main source of “our current predicament.” And given the stealthiness of corporate interests (through ALEC) that was pointed out in my above link Krugman’s words do not seem too far fetched. Here are the words of Krugman from his column:

“Voters may say that they oppose big government, but the programs that actually dominate federal spending — Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security — are very popular. So how can the public be persuaded to accept large spending cuts?
The conservative answer, which evolved in the late 1970s, would be dubbed “starving the beast” during the Reagan years. The idea — propounded by many members of the conservative intelligentsia, from Alan Greenspan to Irving Kristol — was basically that sympathetic politicians should engage in a game of bait and switch. Rather than proposing unpopular spending cuts, Republicans would push through popular tax cuts, with the DELIBERATE INTENTION OF WORSENING the government’s fiscal position. Spending cuts could then be sold as a necessity rather than a choice, the only way to eliminate an unsustainable budget deficit.
And the deficit came. True, more than half of this year’s budget deficit is the result of the Great Recession, which has both depressed revenues and required a temporary surge in spending to contain the damage. But even when the crisis is over, the budget will remain deeply in the red, largely as a result of Bush-era tax cuts (and Bush-era unfunded wars).” (Caps are mine.)

Jay

May 19th, 2011
11:02 am

By now, the Obama critic=racist meme is being repeated 1,000 times from conservatives for every one time it is uttered from the left.

And I may be underestimating.

jewcowboy

May 19th, 2011
11:03 am

Do you think Mr. West drives a $5000 car and wears $100 suits?

http://youtu.be/96Y24a0cyCE

Mary Elizabeth

May 19th, 2011
11:03 am

Thank you, LWM. Appreciated.

Midori

May 19th, 2011
11:04 am

Chris,

that was just plain stupid.

Chris

May 19th, 2011
11:04 am

@Jay 11:02 – trying to close Pandora’s box is hard isn’t it?

jconservative

May 19th, 2011
11:04 am

There is Obama’s upbringing. I make nothing of it, but do take note of it.

Multi-racial kid raised by white mom and white grandparents.
Nine of his first 12 years of education in private Christian schools, with Punahou School being on the exclusive side.

Then pretty successful in his post graduate education and career. I make nothing of it but do take note of it.

Harvard Law School, President of the Law Review.
Teaching at University of Chicago Law School and member of major law firm in Chicago.
United States Senator
President of the United States

As they say, he ain’t done bad for a poor black kid “from Kenya”.

liberalefty

May 19th, 2011
11:04 am

OBAMA is either toooooooooooo black or not black enough

Midori

May 19th, 2011
11:05 am

Jewcowboy – two words: Huggie Bear :)

Don't Tread

May 19th, 2011
11:07 am

Wonder why he never got a call back from Obama?

Could it be that Obama got what he wanted from him during the campaign, and didn’t really need him that much after it was over? Naaaah, Democrats don’t do these things, right? :shock: Only the rich and powerful dump on people after they are done using them, right?

Oh wait :mrgreen:

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

May 19th, 2011
11:07 am

#1) Obama isn’t worthy of shining Col. Blacks shoes ……… a man who had the courage to fight for his country as opposed to being a “community organizer”.

#2) Poor Lakeysha………….just wait until it starts on planes.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110518/us_yblog_thelookout/loud-cell-phone-talker-removed-from-quiet-car-by-police

jewcowboy

May 19th, 2011
11:07 am

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

May 19th, 2011
11:07 am

Excuse me …….. Col. West (I was thinking bootblack).

Dave R.

May 19th, 2011
11:08 am

Just goes to show that neither side is immune from bat-s#it crazies. :shock:

At least Mr. West gave a us a break from yet another Bookman column about a GOP contender who won’t make it.

Of Men and MiceTraps

May 19th, 2011
11:09 am

You missed me, you missed me!

Oooh! Cheese!

Oh Snap!

ty webb

May 19th, 2011
11:09 am

Jay,
(Regarding your 11:02) that’s hardly the case…it’s still being employed in full force by you guys(”racial innuendo”,”code words”,etc.)…I don’t blame you for using it, afterall, that’s all ya’ll got.

Mary Elizabeth

May 19th, 2011
11:10 am

ALEC was created in 1973. “Starving the beast” began in the late 1970s. Look where we are now.

Again, corporate interests exposed. That should be West’s target, not Obama.

Jay

May 19th, 2011
11:12 am

“At least Mr. West gave a us a break from yet another Bookman column about a GOP contender who won’t make it.”

Is there any other kind?

Hillbilly Deluxe

May 19th, 2011
11:12 am

I think those who make such claims are for the most part politically naive about Obama himself and about the political environment in which he operates.

He’s a politician, same as any other.

As for Cornel West, it sounds like somebody got his feelings hurt. It’s not uncommon for people to make it big in this world and forget those who helped them along the way. It happens everyday, all over America.

jm

May 19th, 2011
11:13 am

I thought he was a socialist muslim. Cornell must be so far left he’s right. :)

Dave R.

May 19th, 2011
11:15 am

“Is there any other kind?”

Jack Nicholson in “A Few Good Men”.

The ONLY Tom Cruise movie truly worth watching, IMHO.

carlosgvv

May 19th, 2011
11:16 am

West thinks Obama has sold out less fortunate Americans in return for the favor of the powerful. This is what all American politicans do. This is an old story and has been going on for many years now. Are there actually people in American who don’t know we have the best politicans money can buy?

jm

May 19th, 2011
11:16 am

anti-semitism!!! (seirously)

John Birch

May 19th, 2011
11:16 am

Jay – This is just a classic strawman logical fallacy. West is whack so his opinion that Obama has cuddled up to the white, rich, and powerful must be whack. I guess they didn’t teach logic at the Penal State Nittany Lion school of journalism.

liberalefty

May 19th, 2011
11:18 am

@1811
whats wrong with being a community organizer? whats wrong with helping ones community…i guess when u hate a person you take something good he did/she did and try to make it dirty…it really shows where your mind is at…sad

Jay

May 19th, 2011
11:18 am

You might have a point if I had made such an argument, Mr. Birch.

Instead, I said that’s a matter of legitimate debate, which Mr. West has not chosen to pursue in a legitimate manner.

AmVet

May 19th, 2011
11:18 am

Of course, Mr. west is essentially correct.

BHO is a corporate-owned politician who has NO plan for the bottom 100 millions Americans.

Does he promote a living wage? Does he advocate employee, share-holder, taxpayer and citizen empowerment? Does he even promote healthcare for all? No.

I excoriated him from before his oath of office for all of the above and more. And I still think the rubes who thought he would be their great ally were as gullible as were the Bushbots.

Yet…every time JB writes about political naivety, it strikes at my ideas.

Even so I had hoped he would be a “dangerous” black man and not just what I see as more milquetoast.

So, in my impatience, I have to settle for baby steps and merely hope that he is setting the table for a true champion of those historically under-represented and without a loud voice.

And it undeniable, that even given all of the above, he is an enormous improvement over what we just endured for eight endless years…

ty webb

May 19th, 2011
11:19 am

“The ONLY Tom Cruise movie truly worth watching, IMHO.”

um…hello? Top Gun or Top Car(”Days of Thunder”, pretty much same story set in NASCAR).

Mary Elizabeth

May 19th, 2011
11:19 am

“West thinks Obama has sold out less fortunate Americans in return for the favor of the powerful.”

—————————

One-dimensional thinking about Obama’s vision.

Marco Small III

May 19th, 2011
11:21 am

Jay- You are an example of the white elite liberal establishment that holds us back in the Democratic Party. That’s right, you want us to stay in our place, not cause too much trouble. Right now, I feel that your group is more of an adversary than the GOP. I and many other firmly stand behind West, Watkins and their supporters. Real change is coming.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

May 19th, 2011
11:21 am

I’d have to agree that I don’t see Mr.West’s contention as legitimate on the grounds he stated. An dI readily agree with Jay that the President has to deal with politics and political realities that means at time accepting compromise or in adjusting priorities in which fights to take on. Its the nature of the beast. Attack him on those grounds.

Dave R.

May 19th, 2011
11:22 am

“whats wrong with being a community organizer? whats wrong with helping ones community”

Nothing.

It’s just that neither are very good training grounds for being an effective POTUS.

As we are being shown each and every day with Hope & Punt ™

jm

May 19th, 2011
11:22 am

anti semitism. seriously

“he “feels most comfortable with upper middle-class white and Jewish men who consider themselves very smart, very savvy and very effective in getting what they want”

no other way to interpret this. what the hell is wrong with associating with Jewish men who consider themselves smart? (not that I’m certain he’s actually doing this, but so what?) don’t we want our President associating themselves with smart people?

Paulo977

May 19th, 2011
11:22 am

jcon
@11:04am
The fabric of life ! It is what it is …live it!

jm

May 19th, 2011
11:23 am

West is apparently an anti-Semite….. goodness gracious. The Ivies know no bounds.

Mick

May 19th, 2011
11:24 am

In the end aren’t all the celebs and famous politicians part of the same hypocrisy? The rest of us would be lucky to even get our 15 minutes of fame…

liberalefty

May 19th, 2011
11:25 am

@dave r

iguess you forgot about OBAMA being a senator..lol…by the way , hows that OSAMA BIN LADEN thing working out fer ya?…oh thats right, the community organizer got him…while BUSHY BOY punted like the faux tough guy he is

Dave R.

May 19th, 2011
11:26 am

Sorry, ty. Even Top Gun wasn’t worth watching as far as Cruise’s acting was concerned.

stands for decibels

May 19th, 2011
11:27 am

Sounds like Newt’s “I had to get off the plane from the rear door”.

Echoing Jay, but yeah–I instantly thought of Newt and the plane, too, as soon as I read this.

Mick

May 19th, 2011
11:27 am

dave r

Rain man was pretty good…

Paulo977

May 19th, 2011
11:27 am

Mary
Elizabeth
“One-dimensional thinking about Obama’s vision” Oh well, unfortunately some of us are quite comfortable with a one dimension …. covers us well for all our biases!

O Brother Where Art Thou?

May 19th, 2011
11:27 am

Where’s the love?

Themistocles (a.k.a. Left Wing Mgmt)

May 19th, 2011
11:28 am

AmVet, Jay, here’s a critique of Obama from a much more solid standpoint, by Kuttner:

In the formulation of the political historian James MacGregor Burns, Obama ran and inspired voters as a “transformational” figure but governed as a “transactional” one. Notwithstanding a vow to profoundly change Washington, Obama took the Washington power constellation as a given. Despite an economic emergency, he moved neither Congress nor public opinion very much and only seldom used his oratorical gifts. “He is so damned smart and confident that he thinks he just has to explain things to the American people once,” says former House Appropriations Chair David Obey. “He doesn’t appreciate that you have to reinforce a message 50 times.”

Obama’s reticence, his reluctance to lay blame, make sharp partisan distinctions, or practice a politics of class, reflects the interplay of his personality and his tacit theory of power — one that emphasizes building bridges to opponents, defying ideological categories, shying away from the kind of mass mobilization that swept him into office, and practicing a kind of Zen detachment. At moments in American history, that conception of the presidency has suited the times. This doesn’t seem to be one of those moments.

http://prospect.org/cs/articles?article=barack_obamas_theory_of_power

Dave R.

May 19th, 2011
11:28 am

“Jay- You are an example of the white elite liberal establishment that holds us back in the Democratic Party. That’s right, you want us to stay in our place, not cause too much trouble. Right now, I feel that your group is more of an adversary than the GOP. I and many other firmly stand behind West, Watkins and their supporters. Real change is coming.”

Wow. All of a sudden, Bookman isn’t being black enough.

Never thought I’d live to see the day . . . ;)

Paul

May 19th, 2011
11:28 am

Lots of ego, there.

That light shining in the dark recesses illuminated all I care to see of his psyche.

joe

May 19th, 2011
11:28 am

Too funny…the only thing keeping the poor in their current state is the Democratic party. If the poor would get off their duff, get an education, work hard, put in long hours, hold off having kids until you can afford to provide for them, they can be just as successful as the next guy or gal.

Remember, the Declaration of Independence says life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, not the guarantee of happiness. Anyone in this country has the chance to do anything they want…become a parent, teacher, soldier, business owner, ditch digger, professor, drug dealer…whatever you set your mind to you will be. The Dems give the poor just enough entitlements to keep them exactly where they are for fear of success or failure in exchange for their vote. Nothing ventured, nothing gained people.

Joe Mama

May 19th, 2011
11:29 am

jconservative — “Nine of his first 12 years of education in private Christian schools, with Punahou School being on the exclusive side.”

Punahou is a very exclusive school, but IIRC, it’s not specifically a church-run private school. It was founded by missionaries, but I don’t believe it’s run as or represents itself to be any kind of church-based or religious school.

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

May 19th, 2011
11:29 am

liberalefty:

If it is done right it’s the o.k. thing to do but that kind of community organizing involved extortion and other disgusting practices just like Sharpton and Jackson do. You need to read up.

The bottom line is he is still unworthy to shine Col. West’s shoes.

In any case, Obama is not black or white ……….. but according to Wickipedia he is mulatto:

If you disagree ……… take it up with them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulatto

Mick

May 19th, 2011
11:30 am

dave r

Risky business was entertaining, taps was pretty good too…

Dave R.

May 19th, 2011
11:30 am

“Rain man was pretty good…”

Yeah, it was. But Dustin Hoffman showed more range than Cruise did in that movie.

Just sayin’.

ty webb

May 19th, 2011
11:31 am

Dave R.
Your’re right he doesn’t exactly have strong acting chops, but he’s been in some pretty good movies. His best acting was probably in one of the worst movies…”Tropic Thunder”.

liberalefty

May 19th, 2011
11:31 am

@joe

your argument is wrong…nobody keeps another person poor…stop blaming the DEMS for someone elses laziness

Brosephus

May 19th, 2011
11:31 am

I guess this pokes holes in the bs about all Black people liking Obama because he’s Black. Everyone, including West, is entitled to their opinion, and opinions do not have to be grounded in fact. It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Dave R.

May 19th, 2011
11:31 am

“iguess you forgot about OBAMA being a senator.”

Actually, liberal lefty, I NEVER forget about Hope & Punt’s ™ 2 years as a U.S. Senator. You remember those, don’t you? Those were the two years he didn’t submit any legislation under his own name worth mentioning, and voted to not raise the debt ceiling.

Those 2 years as Senator, liberal lefty?

1811/1801 - 0311/0317

May 19th, 2011
11:31 am

Ooooooooo …………………..

Headline: “Peter Fonda calls Obama ‘traitor’ at Cannes”

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110518/ennew_afp/entertainmentfilmfestivalcannesusobamafonda_20110518154556

Confused and Disappointed

May 19th, 2011
11:31 am

This is a very thought provoking article. West seems to have a little envy going on. The President can not be everything to everybody. A large percentage of Black men that are successful often turn their heads away from the Black community once they have made it to the top. They look down on the same neighborhoods that their families originated from and won’t do much to uplift or instill hope into the younger generations that are looking up to them. Most have the attitudes of I got mine now you find a way to get yours. This is pathetic of West. Do the “Hood” a favor and come back and mentor some of the young men that are going astray. If the President would have sent tickets to him, it should have persuaded him to pass them along to someone that does not get a chance to rub elbows with others in higher places!! Peace!!!

ty webb

May 19th, 2011
11:32 am

“I guess this pokes holes in the bs about all Black people liking Obama because he’s Black.”

Speaking of Strawmen, but just to indulge you, wanna bet that obama still gets West’s vote?

Mick

May 19th, 2011
11:33 am

**The Dems give the poor just enough entitlements to keep them exactly where they are for fear of success or failure in exchange for their vote**

That is the most ridiculous mythical belief that just keeps on going. Sure, there are some welfare cheats but by and large many people are genuinely hurting due to this economic mess. Stop simplifying the problem – it doesn’t work…

Hillbilly Deluxe

May 19th, 2011
11:33 am

The rest of us would be lucky to even get our 15 minutes of fame…

Somdbody else can have 30 minutes, ’cause I don’t want my 15.

Tommy Maddox

May 19th, 2011
11:34 am

Uh oh – another black fellow calling out the President. What was that jousting business you posted yesterday?

Jay

May 19th, 2011
11:34 am

I love how the right disparages the impact of celebrity endorsements right up until the moment that a celebrity says something they like.

Then it’s all “oooh ooooh, didja hear that, didja hear that!!”

Guy Incognito

May 19th, 2011
11:34 am

Dave R.

May 19th, 2011
11:30 am

Color of Money was his best because he didn’t have to act. That role was his personality coming through

getalife

May 19th, 2011
11:34 am

“a black mascot of Wall Street oligarchs and a black puppet of corporate plutocrats.”

A mascot of Wall Street oligarchs and a black puppet of corporate plutocrats.

Perfect description of the gop.

Of Men and MiceTraps

May 19th, 2011
11:35 am

Poor, poor 1811/1801 – 0311/0317. He has to live out his days harboring such hate. Good for him.

liberalefty

May 19th, 2011
11:35 am

@1811

come off your bull…you and the conservative right have lambasted his community organizing because you try to delegitimize his sucessful career..you conservatives have always been against organizing blacks..just ask anyone from the civil rights moverment…conservatives like you thought MLK [the ultimate coimmunity organizer] was wrong..

getalife

May 19th, 2011
11:36 am

A mascot of Wall Street oligarchs and a puppet of corporate plutocrats.

Oops.

AmVet

May 19th, 2011
11:37 am

LWM, thanks for that. I’ll read it in detail later.

“…the only thing keeping the poor in their current state is the Democratic party.”

And mindless, puerile drivel is still very popular out there on the fringe…

Dave R.

May 19th, 2011
11:38 am

“Everyone, including West, is entitled to their opinion, and opinions do not have to be grounded in fact.”

As is proven here every day, Brosephus! :D

(And sometimes by our host) ;)

Themistocles (a.k.a. Left Wing Mgmt)

May 19th, 2011
11:38 am

joe: “Too funny…the only thing keeping the poor in their current state is the Democratic party. If the poor would get off their duff, get an education, work hard, put in long hours, hold off having kids until you can afford to provide for them, they can be just as successful as the next guy or gal”

Doesn’t really work out that way in practice, joe. For people to be able to get an education, that education has to be affordable. Has it ever occurred to you by the way, Joe, that in this country the right to a free education – a free college education – the way you have in continental Europe, and used to have in the UK before the neolibs started trashing things, is NEVER even on the table here? You ever wonder about that, joe?

That’s something to wonder about, joe, if you ask me.

Granny Godzilla

May 19th, 2011
11:39 am

Dave R says regarding being a community organizer

“It’s just that neither are very good training grounds for being an effective POTUS.”

I can’t disagree more…it’s a terrific training ground.

You organize a community, then a city, then a county, then a state, then a nation…..And President Obama did just that incredibly effectively.

I think that is the real gripe about community organizer -
that it was effective and all the while the GOP continues to be corporate organizers.

That said Tom Jefferson and John Adams are among two of my other favorite community organizers.

JohnnyReb

May 19th, 2011
11:39 am

Here’s your clue:

From Wiki – Cornel Ronald West is a prominent member of the Democratic Socialists of America.

Apparently, not only does Ronnie feel personally snubbed, but Barry has not spread enough wealth to suit him.

This is another example of why Obama will not win in 2012.

Brosephus

May 19th, 2011
11:39 am

ty

I quickly grew tired of hearing “95% of Black people voted for Obama” thrown around like Mardi Gras beads. Black people do not live or think as one monolithic group. Maybe this will open the eyes of non-believers. If West’s feelings are real, I don’t see him as an automatic vote for Obama.

John Birch

May 19th, 2011
11:40 am

Obama’s vision? Screen cleaner please!

liberalefty

May 19th, 2011
11:40 am

@dave r

well you and OSAMA think OBAMA dont have what it takes to be president…lol

BADA BING

May 19th, 2011
11:40 am

Is this anything like Monica yanking Bill’s “credentials”?