Herman Cain isn’t legitimate presidential candidate
It’s been a good month to be Atlanta’s own Herman Cain.
As May began, Cain was declared the clear winner of South Carolina’s GOP presidential debate. Last week, a Zogby interactive poll of Republican primary voters put Cain in second place, behind only New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who isn’t even running. And at the Georgia Republican Convention in Macon over the weekend, Cain basked in cheers and standing ovations that dwarfed those drawn by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich.
But for all the fervor, let’s be honest: Cain is not a legitimate candidate for president.
That doesn’t mean Cain should be dismissed or ignored. Quite the contrary; he’s important because he is giving voice to the fears and resentment of millions of Americans who see this country and their place in it diminished by powers beyond their control. His support is drawn from the same part of the GOP base that once embraced Sarah Palin and, briefly, Donald Trump. Like Palin and Trump, Cain may not be well-versed on policy, but he knows what he knows, and he’s willing to put it bluntly:
“The objective of the liberals is to destroy this country,” he told a conservative conference in Washington in February. “The objective of the liberals is to make America mediocre. … That’s their objective. Well, let me tell you something about mediocrity. It’s not in an American’s DNA to be mediocre.”
To Americans worried that their country might be losing its status as an economic and military superpower — a fear that’s all too justified — such words resonate. However, it is not the rhetoric of a man capable of becoming president. It is the rhetoric of a talk-radio host, armed with the one-liners, pat answers and applause lines honed by sitting night after night at the microphone.
As Rush Limbaugh put it after watching the South Carolina debate, “Herman Cain made me think I was listening to me in every answer.”
As his backers are quick to point out, Cain is more than a radio talker. He enjoyed a successful corporate career, rising to CEO of Godfather’s Pizza and serving as chair of the Federal Reserve Board in Kansas City. While that’s impressive, politics and business are very different fields. Michael Jordan was the best basketball player in history, but as athletic as he was, he couldn’t hit a curve ball. At the top echelons of any endeavor, skill sets don’t transfer easily.
Finally, there’s the added dimension of Cain’s race. Conservatives are not merely proud to be seen as supporting a black man for president, some see his race as a club to be used to bludgeon their opponents. Cain understands that aspect of his appeal, and he’s not shy about milking it.
In that February speech, as in many of his speeches, Cain sympathized with fellow conservatives for being “called racist simply because you disagree with the president, who happens to be black.”
“Well, I got a breaking news announcement for you,” Cain told them. “You are not a racist; you are patriots because you’re willing to stand up for what you believe in. Patriots.”
Like Cain, blogger Andrew Breitbart has risen to prominence thanks to a willingness to voice what traditional conservative leaders will not. And he makes no bones about embracing Cain as a way to blow the minds of those who label conservatives as racist. He even envisions Allen West, an extremely conservative black congressman from Florida who also was raised here in Atlanta, as Cain’s 2012 running mate.
“That ticket would blow up the death star of political correctness that the left uses against the right,” he said, and it’s hard to argue that point.
In fact, the only thing more surreal than a black Atlantan heading the GOP ticket would be two black Atlantans heading the GOP ticket.
– Jay Bookman
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Dr. Pangloss
May 17th, 2011
10:21 am
“No, I will not [appoint a Muslim to my cabinet]. And here’s why. There is this creeping attempt, there is this attempt to gradually ease Sharia law and the Muslim faith into our government. It does not belong in our government.”
What happened to that Constitution thing that Republicans pretend to own? You know, that piece of paper that says there will be no religious test for any public office or trust?
godless heathen
May 17th, 2011
10:22 am
So Co: “I’ve lived around White people all my life, but I won’t claim to understand the ins and outs of the White community. ”
Was it Chris Rock that asked, “What in the hell do you white people do on Friday night that makes you put all your @#&$ out on the front lawn to sell on Saturday morning?”?
Hambone
May 17th, 2011
10:22 am
I can’t wait to get the chance to vote for Herman!!!!!!!!!
pat
May 17th, 2011
10:22 am
Realist, I’d not only vote for a man with dark skin, but I’d vote for a woman with dark skin color as well. It’s not about the f’in color, it’s about policy, period.
Condi Rice? I’d vote her in a heart beat…Or does she not count?
RambleOn84
May 17th, 2011
10:23 am
Pardon me? Do you have a brain? YOU brought up race…you said strap up white people to a lie detector test and ask them if they’re intellectually superior to black people…blah blah…”
I’ll quit talking to you…you ain’t right
liberalefty
May 17th, 2011
10:23 am
@TIM JOHNSON
THERES NO such thing as a “lie detector test”….machines cannot tell if youre lying…they can measure physical emotions…duh…the “tests” are about as reliable as a coin flip
USMC
May 17th, 2011
10:24 am
‘at the end of the day.. Republicans will never vote for a black man. No matter how conservative or how much he preaches what they want to hear.”
Ignorance is bliss. Sounds like Realist isn’t very DIVERSE.
You must not know any Conservatives to make an ignorant statement like that.
You should really get out a bit more and diversify the group of people you hangout with.
You might learn something
C
May 17th, 2011
10:24 am
@Mary Elizabeth – Shall I introduce you to some of the editorial staff and writers of Atlanta Magazine…that is THEIR opinion, as prescribed from the left leaning attributes they share with those 50 leaders.
Yes folks, the only way to have a truly successful country, enlightened south, is to think like a northerner, be liberal, thoughtful, caring, open minded and multi-cultural. We get it. Now, just stop it…
tim johnson
May 17th, 2011
10:24 am
classifying humans by race should be outlawed. only the species should be recognised. individuals should be judged on an individual basis. bigots love to classify humans as different races, and while they do, people of color like myself will always be on the defensive.
Gator Joe
May 17th, 2011
10:24 am
“The objective of the liberals is to destroy this country. The objective of the liberals is to make this country mediocre.” Really Mr. Cain?, Right wing extremist, Conservatives were well on their way to reaching those objectives, when President Obama came into office and began reversing them. Mr. Cain, while more intelligent, is as legitimate a candidate as Palin, Bachman, and the other Republicans in the remaining field. Unfotunately for all of them, being a legitimate candidate doesn’t mean being able to beat President Obama in 2012, or being better for our country.
THE TRUTH
May 17th, 2011
10:24 am
tim johnson
May 17th, 2011
10:06 am
how many whites on this board can truly say that they dont feel intellectually superior to blacks and pass a lie detector test. this bias shows it self over and over.
tim, I have agreed with most of what you have said today, but this is one area I personally feel your wrong. Now I can not speak for everyone, but , myself, I do measure the intelligence of any people as a whole, individually I may say I am more intelligent than one person and turn around and be amazed by another.
Each person regardless race,creed, color, religious belief, political party or what ever most break from being lumped in a heap and determine their on fate, for the most part I think you have done this. more so than a lot of people on this blog. Heck I question the intelligence of people on the left, but I know their are some smart ones. I just wish they would speak up.
Mary Elizabeth
May 17th, 2011
10:24 am
(ir)Rational @ 10:01
“But your statement about the most honored Atlantans (for the most part they were all elected to office somewhere) also disproves your statement that Southerners are too backwards to vote for a progressive.”
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You keep misquoting me, (ir)Rational, I never said that “Southerners are too backwards.” I would never use the word “backwards” and I did not. I did try to encourage Southerners to break free of their “givens” in their worldview, as I did fifty years ago, which I stated.
The four people I listed from Atlanta Magazine’s 50 most honored (Ralph McGill, progressive editorial writer and publisher of the Atlanta Constitution; Robert Woodruff, businessman and philanthropist; Ted Turner, entrepreneur and world peace advocate; and Martin Luther King, Jr (visionary) were never elected to public office. All of the 50 were progressives and only a handfull were elected to public office in Georgia. However, they helped to make the South more erudite and less fearful of those who are not within the mainstream.
Bosch
May 17th, 2011
10:25 am
“along with a few of the Libs on here, wasn’t going to Heaven”
None of us are going to heaven because it doesn’t exist — ask Stephen Hawkins.
tim johnson
May 17th, 2011
10:25 am
rambleon,
your are a fool. i asked how many would take the test. i would never suggest forcing anyone to. only the clean of conscious would volunteer.
Good little liberal
May 17th, 2011
10:25 am
USinUK
The theme of the article was that Cain wasn’t qualified to be president Everything he said about Cain was actually positive except for this statement: “In fact, the only thing more surreal than a black Atlantan heading the GOP ticket would be two black Atlantans heading the GOP ticket.”
That’s the thing about you libs. Because you elected a half white Harvard educated elitist to the White House, you think that it gives you the right to say anything and get a pass.
Be very afraid of Herman Cain. The overt racism of the Party of George Wallace is bubbling to the surface and I’m not the only one noticing. Jay’s entire article only lacked the word “uppity” to complete the picture.
liberalefty
May 17th, 2011
10:26 am
WILL CAIN use amaller government to get the repubs out of telling women they cant get an abortion
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
May 17th, 2011
10:26 am
“are you going to give any evidence as to why cain is not a legitimate candidate? you didn’t mention anything about that except for the title of your article.”
Jays only point or actually a non-point is that Cain is not a legitimate candidate because he had too much private sector experience instead of a glowing political resume like Obama. Of course prior to B.O.’s election he only served one year in the federal government as a senator. No significant previous experience outside of being a community activist and an Illinois state senator with zero business credentials. So it appears that Jay’s viewpoint on proper experience is somewhat narrow and confines itself to a government related background.
Mary Elizabeth
May 17th, 2011
10:27 am
C @ 10:24
“Yes folks, the only way to have a truly successful country, enlightened south, is to think like a northerner, be liberal, thoughtful, caring, open minded and multi-cultural. We get it. Now, just stop”
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Your words, not mine C. I would never have made such a stereotypical statement. I did encourage Southerners to start to break free of whatever norms they are born into and to think for themselves aside from popular thought of the day. That is the best of “intellectual thinking”. . .a phrase not to be maligned or feared. . . or belittled.
jm
May 17th, 2011
10:27 am
Bosch – its Stephen Hawking, not Hawkins
Bosch
May 17th, 2011
10:27 am
“If you disagree with Comrade Obama, it means you are a racist”
USMC,
I know that you wingnuts like to write that, but it’s a different thing to actually show where that has ever been the case.
straitroad
May 17th, 2011
10:27 am
Jay,
Conservatives tend to look at what each candidate has accomplished when making a decision about who to vote for. Liberals and Independents tend to be governed by emotion and usually respond to rhetoric. This is the reason you guys voted for a guy with a very thin resume. He has had to do a lot of on the job training. Herman Cain has the experience to govern better than Soetero, Obama or whatever his next name will be.
tim johnson
May 17th, 2011
10:28 am
recon,
lets not forget the wise jay bookers michael jordan wasnt a good baseball analogy. that is his basis for herman cain being illegitimate. i couldnt make up this stuff if i tried. his blog is truly a joke.
Barb
May 17th, 2011
10:28 am
Mr. Cain has my vote. I’ve waited a couple yrs hoping he would someday run.
He’ll have people back to work and off food stamps in no time. The man knows business and how to suround himself with the right people.
I can’t wait for the day I call him Mr. President!
Stay up!
Cain/West 2012
jm
May 17th, 2011
10:28 am
The Schwarzanegger saga is so sad….
DawgDad
May 17th, 2011
10:29 am
“But for all the fervor, let’s be honest: Cain is not a legitimate candidate for president.”
Well, we’ll see, won’t we?
I moved to Atlanta in the late 90’s. I think now of how many times I listened to Herman Cain on the radio BEFORE I had any idea he was black (as if it matters, because it does not) – it was a lot, perhaps years. He’s a candidate well deserving of thoughtful and respectful consideration. If I vote for him it will be because his message resonates with me and I believe he’s capable of handling the job. As of now, he’s right up at the top of a very short list of candidates meeting that criteria.
Jay, where do you get this idea the same group of people who tend to support Palin supported Trump? That’s out of left field and way off-base from my perspective.
godless heathen
May 17th, 2011
10:29 am
jm: I know Stephen Hawkins and he feels the same.
Left wing management
May 17th, 2011
10:29 am
jm: “Obama’s wife is widely considered to be smarter than he is….. of course, that is often the case. I’m not saying the guy’s dumb. But neither is he the brightest bulb.”
Oh I wouldn’t doubt it for a second. But what does that really prove? We’re by definition talking about a “power couple” here. Both of them are at the pinnacle of the American high achievement class. At issue though was debunking the ridiculous claim, repeated by one of the stragglers here, following the unscrupulous demagogue Donald Trump (a man who himself was born with ten thousand times the natural advantages in life that Obama had), that Obama is an “affirmative action” charity case. Which is an absurd claim that can be dismissed by listening to the man talk for 5 minutes.
But again, this is all predicated on the claim of YOUR side today that intelligence, narrowly defined, is a key qualifier. Which I reject, because we tend to define intelligence too narrowly. And for the record, I’m equally critical of those on the left who claim that one should withhold criticism of Obama on the grounds that he’s so “intelligent” (so much more so than the rest of us) and thus should be trusted to know what he’s doing. A claim that I reject just as much.
C
May 17th, 2011
10:29 am
@ Jay – “Ty, like 99.99 percent of people on the left, I had never even heard of Saul Alinsky until he became a favorite talking point of the right.”
That’s not really the point…it matters not that you knew who SA was (although I find that interesting, since I presumed all AJC editorialists were learned, enlightened folk)…it matters that OBAMA knew who he was. That, is a fact that can not be dismissed.
USMC
May 17th, 2011
10:29 am
“classifying humans by race should be outlawed. only the species should be recognised. individuals should be judged on an individual basis. bigots love to classify humans as different races, and while they do, people of color like myself will always be on the defensive.”–Tim
Very well said, however, Democrats will NEVER let that happen, as Identity Politics are the LAST thread holding the these Left-wing Liberal “Dixiecrats” together.
tim johnson
May 17th, 2011
10:29 am
i suppose if the heat lose to the bulls then this will be further proof that herman cain will not make a good president. dont steal my idea for your next blog jay booker.
SubVet
May 17th, 2011
10:29 am
Good column C. Very Well Put!
RambleOn84
May 17th, 2011
10:30 am
“tim johnson,”
You’ve got serious problems, friend. You yourself make the distinction between blacks and whites and bring up the results of some unnamed test which proves whites are biased, then blast me for calling you out on it.
You then say even classifying humans by race should be outlawed, and those who do are “bigots.”
So are you a bigot who needs to be put in jail?
Doggone/GA
May 17th, 2011
10:31 am
“Stephen Hawkins.”
Hawking…not Hawkins
Bosch
May 17th, 2011
10:31 am
Yes folks, the only way to have a truly successful country, enlightened south, is to think like a northerner, be liberal, thoughtful, caring, open minded and multi-cultural. We get it.
Well, good, glad we can agree. Except for the “think like a northerner thing.
thomas
May 17th, 2011
10:31 am
USinUK
May 17th, 2011
10:18 am
Actually this is what Jay said and what I was referring to, but good attempt at reading my mind and trying to place a quote with my acusation. Nice!
Now my only question is do you too feel that the MAIN reason Hermain Cain is recieving any attention is because he is Black?
Jay
May 17th, 2011
8:14 am
“jackj’s response is common as well. Conservatives appreciate the chance to use the reverse jujitsu racism card, and I can understand it. But that doesn’t make Cain presidential timber.
In fact, if the current Democratic president was, say, Hillary Clinton or John Kerry, I doubt Cain would ever have been more than a blip on the screen.”
Bosch
May 17th, 2011
10:31 am
“Democrats will NEVER let that happen, as Identity Politics are the LAST thread holding the these Left-wing Liberal “Dixiecrats” together.”
Again, it’s much easier just to type sh*t, it’s much more harder to show it exists.
RGB
May 17th, 2011
10:32 am
Seems the columnist never spares a high-tech lynching of a conservative black man.
You know these people have to be kept on the plantation.
As for me, I’ll likely vote for Mr. Cain as I did when he ran against RINO Isakson.
Devil's Advocate
May 17th, 2011
10:32 am
The Michael Jordan analogy was a poor one. The idea that a career politican is the only one best qualified to run this country is the reason why America’s political system has turned into garbage. The reason Obama won is because the average voter didn’t look at him as a career politician. Obama didn’t just beat McCain, he beat Clinton who was probably the overall favorite to win in the first place. We’ve been voting for the lesser of evils for a long time and people were frankly so sick of the status quo from all parties (Democrats, Republicans, and Libertarians) that they went with the candidate who did not appear to be as entrenched in the system as the career political candidates.
Cain is just the Republican version of what Obama represents as the “new kid on the block” candidate. Our politicians should come from some working sector of our society, not defacto lawyers and career politicians. Now I’m not saying someone who has moved up from office to office is bad, but we shouldn’t assume that a career politician is the only one who can make good political decisions. I like Cain’s comments this week that a good leader surrounds himself/herself with qualified people who can offer the best advice and insight into the issue at hand so the leader can make the best informed decision in line with his/her beliefs.
As for Jay’s main point, it’s squarely on far right conservative voters to decide if Cain is legit. Don’t point the finger at liberals on this one. The proof will be in the voting. Cain seems to be the best conservative candidate on the surface. Let’s see the mainstream Right get behind him if he continues to hold up well heading into the primaries.
USMC
May 17th, 2011
10:32 am
“I know that you wingnuts like to write that, but it’s a different thing to actually show where that has ever been the case.”
The Truth hurts doesn’t it Bosch.
“Show me where… Cite for me please…”
—Straight from the MOVEON.org/Liberal playbook. Amazing.
Moving target
May 17th, 2011
10:32 am
Apparently when one who typically leans left discusses a GOP candidate, they are afraid of them. Why doesn’t the right bring back Sarah Palin? We all loved talking about that crazy, so I guess she incited a TON of fear into the left.
ragnar danneskjold
May 17th, 2011
10:33 am
Good morning all. Strange essay – our host catalogs all of the reasons that my preferred candidate is relevant and viable and concludes, without other argument, that his candidacy is not “legitimate.” I don’t know any objective argument that can be made, regarding Mr. Cain, that would not have been true of Chauncey in May 2007.
tim johnson
May 17th, 2011
10:33 am
UMSC
you are so right. if they couldnt divide us up into racial classifications then they would have to treat us all as one species and they would lose all of their fraudulent self righteous thunder. the democrats attempt to divide us by race and conquer us by manipulation. that is the new era of bigotry.
Carlos
May 17th, 2011
10:33 am
First of all no one who becomes President has experience as such, until they have been on the job. While I don’t consider myself to be a democrat or republican I believe that Mr. Cain given the potential candidates on the right has a good shot at the nomination. One thing he has is he’s his own person. Which to me is essential because many become easily influenced once they are sworn in. It really doesn’t matter to me that he has had experience in the private sector. He does have an impressive resume and has a lot to offer but I’m looking for a President with “common sense”. That requires no degree. Most of our economic problems we are currently in comes from a country and individuals living on the edge with debt, living above their means and not doing things in moderation. Sorry, but true. Remember what Nancy Pelosi said about healthcare “That’s why we have to pass it, so you’ll know what’s in it”. Ha? Correction your job is to inform the people first and then pass it. That’s why I don’t really support one side over the other. I do feel President Obama is going to be hard to beat. Glad Donald Trump isn’t running. I would of voted for Donald Duck before Donald Trump. Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul? Too old. The Republicans should of learned from McCain. People are looking for more youthful leadership. Sarah Palin? People only follow her because she looks good. Romney? Over. Huckabee? Decided not to run. So if you look today at the potential candidates that are legitimate, I believe Mr. Cain although up there in age,but because of his experience and personality may be more of a stronger candidate than people think. No one thought in a million years that Obama would of won Iowa during the primary and look what happened. Wouldn’t that be something, two blacks as the nominees for their perspective parties in 2012.
Joe Mama
May 17th, 2011
10:33 am
Barb — “Stay up! Cain/West 2012″
I disagree with many of Mr. Cain’s positions, but I have nothing against him personally.
Mr. West, however, is a different story. I’d vote for a baby-eating WEREWOLF before I’d cast a ballot for him.
thomas
May 17th, 2011
10:34 am
Bosch
May 17th, 2011
10:25 am
What if Heaven is just a state of mind, and our minds are the last thing to go?????????????
liberalefty
May 17th, 2011
10:34 am
CAIN like STEELE benefits from OBAMA being black…these 2 would not even be heard of if the prez was white
USMC
May 17th, 2011
10:34 am
“WILL CAIN use amaller government to get the repubs out of telling women they cant get an abortion”–Liberalefty
No, we know you will find a way to KILL babies anyway; regardless of what anyone says to you.
That’s on you.
jm
May 17th, 2011
10:34 am
LWM “But again, this is all predicated on the claim of YOUR side today that intelligence, narrowly defined, is a key qualifier.”
Um, what side am I on? Glad you know what side I’m on. I look forward to knowing.
Bosch
May 17th, 2011
10:35 am
“it matters that OBAMA knew who he was. That, is a fact that can not be dismissed.”
Bullsh*t. So, now because he knew who he was — that’s somehow relevant? I’m sure he knew who Gandhi was, Mother Teresa, etc. — but that doesn’t count???
TaxPayer
May 17th, 2011
10:35 am
Is Herman Cain black! And he ran the Godfather’s pizza. He doesn’t look Italian.
tim johnson
May 17th, 2011
10:36 am
god forbid someone pass a law that required birth certificates to say -species of father:human, species of mother: human— this would remove race as a classification of the human species and force the democrats and even the bigots in other parties to treat individuals on an individual basis. jay bookers michael jordan analogies would be a thing of the past.we could all finally get along.
(ir)Rational
May 17th, 2011
10:36 am
Joe Mama – Check out on I-20 near Douglasville (maybe a bit farther out, but I want to say Hwy 5). I saw an advertisement for one on a sign saying what restaurants were at that exit. Actually, it could have been all the way to Carrollton for all I remember, I was going to Anniston, and wasn’t paying too much attention to the exits I didn’t have to stop at.
SoCo – I agree, it sucks, but it sucks that I get called a racist every time I disagree with something a non-white person says. Or every time I think the immigration laws of this country should be enforced. But then again, I am just a poor, dumb Southern hick (I know you didn’t say that, but I’m thinking of changing my name to it, so Mary can just skip over my comments and not risk lowering her IQ, plus I’m having a lot of fun with it in my head today.)
Bosch
May 17th, 2011
10:37 am
USMC,
Translation: I got nothing.
Realist
May 17th, 2011
10:37 am
Pat.. you must be one the few that will…
USMC… you are correct “ignorance is bliss” and if you think that conservative republicans will vote for a black southern man, you don’t know what’s really going on. As far as “I must not know any conservatives”, boy do I know them and many. Diverse? now you’re the one being ignorant, you know me as much as I know you, which is not at all. If you did know me, I bet you’d think differently.
tim johnson
May 17th, 2011
10:38 am
when race is eliminated as a classification of the human species then jay booker could try tranfering his limited skill set into another profession and move past his days of bigotry blogging for the left media.maybe he will fare better than michael jordan (a human) did at baseball.
Southern Comfort
May 17th, 2011
10:39 am
thomas @ 10:12
What offends me the most is that regardless to whether it’s a pro-Cain statement or not, people want to pull his race into the discussion. I would think that by this time, we would be well beyond trying to group ourselves by race. At the end of the day, we’re all American. If you travel to a foreign country and present a US passport, they don’t give a sh*t if you’re White, Black or Hispanic. To them, you’re American, and that’s how I see it.
Barb
May 17th, 2011
10:39 am
Obama had no plan or strategy. It was hope and change and no ideas.
The difference between Mr.Cain and Obama is like night and day.
Cain/West 2012
Bosch
May 17th, 2011
10:39 am
thomas,
I haven’t had enough coffee this morning for that to sink in.
Obama is over
May 17th, 2011
10:39 am
It is ashamed that Cain will not be taken seriously because there is a lot of merit to what he has to say. As a small business owner, I am gradually coming out of the recession not because of Obama, but despite him. I made a conscious decision a year ago to emphasize distribution channels in China and India because that is where the growth is. I only saw punitive measures for business coming out of Washington with lots of finger pointing and no real plan to encourage investment or domestic growth. Here in the U.S., we are not going to grow as long as Obama is in office. I had a meeting last week to discuss liquidity options for my company and it became very obvious that New York is not going to be the finance center of the world much longer. London, Hong Kong, and other exchanges offer much more attractive IPO options because of the tax structure and regulatory restrictions here in the U.S. Obama does not understand this. If you constantly attack the people who generate wealth and jobs in a community, eventually they will move to a more friendly market. Nothing against Obama as a person, he simply is too expensive to do business with.
getalife
May 17th, 2011
10:39 am
When will trump apologize to our President for his birther smears?
When will cain apologize to the people for not being able to make a good pizza?
Bosch
May 17th, 2011
10:40 am
“but it sucks that I get called a racist every time I disagree with something a non-white person says.”
Every time irrational? Really? I find that extremely hard to believe.
tim johnson
May 17th, 2011
10:41 am
the truth,
i totally agree with your post and if you look very carefully at mine i think it is in line with your thoughts. if not, i respect your opinion as well.
thomas
May 17th, 2011
10:41 am
Southern Comfort
May 17th, 2011
10:39 am
Then may I suggest not responding and then having side bar conversations about dumb idiotic post by few rougue bigots and attempt to place blame at the feet of the group as a whole?
That may help some. Also be willing to call people out of whom you agree with for bigoted statements with whom you agree, not only with whom you disagree.
tim johnson
May 17th, 2011
10:41 am
bosch,
no one would ever call you racist again if the classification of race was eliminated from our culture. it starts at birth when the race of your parents is placed on your birth certificate. this classification would be outlawed. no one would be a racist, you just would like some people and not others. or you would love all of humanity or perhaps hate all of humanity. we are the same species, the racial classification is in of itself a bias.
Southern Comfort
May 17th, 2011
10:42 am
godless @ 10:22
Bosch
May 17th, 2011
10:42 am
irrational,
We see that alot here, the victimization of the poor white conservative Christian male. It’s so 1960s.
USMC
May 17th, 2011
10:42 am
Tim@10:33
Amen Tim, that is the Truth isn’t it?
These Leftwing Liberals and Democrats in general view EVERYTHING in the world and life through RACIAL “sunglasses”.
Somehow everything in life relates to race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.
Notice Liberal Democrats HATE when you quote MLK, jr.’s “Judge not on the color of skin but on content of character…”
How Ludicrous
(ir)Rational
May 17th, 2011
10:43 am
Bosch – sorry, I forget, only those on the left are allowed to exaggerate and make generalizations. My bad.
Joe Mama
May 17th, 2011
10:43 am
getalife — “When will cain apologize to the people for not being able to make a good pizza?”
I haven’t had Godfather’s Pizza in many years, but I always enjoyed it. IIRC, though, they didn’t deliver.
getalife
May 17th, 2011
10:43 am
What is cain’s voting record?
thomas
May 17th, 2011
10:44 am
Bosch
May 17th, 2011
10:39 am
Too much coffee will keep you from heaven
gotta go red bull it gives you wings*******like an angel******
Joe Cool~"El Jeffe Obama" Tells Birthers,"Thanks For Playing BI+CHES"
May 17th, 2011
10:44 am
All Jay is saying is that in comparison, Hermain Cain isnt a legitiment candidate as say a Micheal Steele would be politically.
It has nothing to do with race, but if the right is going to make it about race, then understand that Jay would probably say Micheal Steele would be considered a legitiment candidate Vs Cain.
Cain is just like a Palin or Trump….they say things to get a reaction. To excite the base, yet again, neither are Presidential material.
Schrodingers cat
May 17th, 2011
10:45 am
Shame on you Jay…again!
Joe Mama
May 17th, 2011
10:45 am
USMC — “Amen Tim, that is the Truth isn’t it? These Leftwing Liberals and Democrats in general view EVERYTHING in the world and life through RACIAL “sunglasses”. Somehow everything in life relates to race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.”
“Notice Liberal Democrats HATE when you quote MLK, jr.’s “Judge not on the color of skin but on content of character…”
(ir)Rational — “Bosch – sorry, I forget, only those on the left are allowed to exaggerate and make generalizations. My bad.”
Seems like USMC covered you there, pal. (laughing)
BADA BING
May 17th, 2011
10:45 am
Poor Ahnold, an affair, a love child, and now getting divorced. So many mistakes. If only there was a way to go back in time, and try to prevent what happened……..if only……
jm
May 17th, 2011
10:46 am
Obama is over 10:39 – very true. The IPO market has been squelched by the feds.
Duck
May 17th, 2011
10:46 am
What a bunch of crap! Herman Cain is the only TRUE Conservative out of the bunch! We need to fund this guy…not, “Romney the Rino”. This article is stupid…the Cain Train is gaining speed and it is scaring the crap out of these Liberals! Woot-Woot!
TaxPayer
May 17th, 2011
10:47 am
What is cain’s voting record?
Hey. Quit trying to change the subject.
RGB
May 17th, 2011
10:47 am
Will Obama apologize for destroying our economic system?
Will the Democrat Congress apologize for increasing the national debt by 60% in 4 years?
Will the President develop an energy plan whose primary directive is not to explore for energy?
Straight Talk
May 17th, 2011
10:47 am
I believe in HOPE and CHANGE. I hope (and pray) for the change to Herman Cain as President in 2012.
Southern Comfort
May 17th, 2011
10:49 am
ir(Rational)
I’m digging that name. I’d say do it, and there’s nothing wrong with having a good laugh or two, even in your mind.
thomas
Point taken. The reason I said something about it today is because I felt it was time that somebody said something. I don’t think that I should have to call out anybody for saying such things. I usually try to avoid things like that, because Jay can attest to the fact that I can sometimes lose my cool over things dealing with racial implications.
I don’t call out those that I agree with too often, but I have spoken up about things like that when it riles my nerves. I guess I should make more effort so that people see that and don’t think I’m just picking on one “side”.
liberalefty
May 17th, 2011
10:49 am
@obam is over
maybe youre a lousy businessman..dont blame the government for your ineptness
getalife
May 17th, 2011
10:49 am
My fellow cons,
After you spewed every lie and smear against the President, his supporters will attack your candidates.
There is an election silly.
Fair is fair.
lamonte
May 17th, 2011
10:49 am
the right’s xenophobia towards those who think or look different from them is tearing the Country to bits.
Mike
May 17th, 2011
10:50 am
Legitimate? Herman’s got real birth certificate not a dead girl’s.
http://myveryownpointofview.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/cross-posted-sunahara.jpg
jm
May 17th, 2011
10:50 am
getalife 10:49 – way to use the “shift” key.
The Owl
May 17th, 2011
10:50 am
Cain could do a better job as president in his sleep than the current idiot.
Str8UpNoChaser
May 17th, 2011
10:50 am
@cosy smith 9:36am
You stated:
“nothing to lay crediance to why Mr. Cain is not a legitimate candidate other than he is another conservatinve that believes the government is the problem and not the solution. but then, that would be your typical stance, Government is the answer to all the problems.”
Allow meto respectfully call bull here. Please namethe last conservative president that actually shrank the government. I would wait on a response, but I’d be waiting forever. Conservatives don’t want a smaller government, they just want the priorities to be different. Instead of regulating big business, they would rather regulate a woman’s reproductive decisions. Instead of funding education, they would rather subsidize oil companies. Some of you have a problem with the tax rate, but you want clean water to drink, clean air to breathe and if a PRIVATE company causes a giant oil spill in the gulf you want government to step in a fix the problem. You are a case study in hypocrisy.
Private industry is only interested in doing something that they can profit from. Everything that is beneficial for the country as a whole will not always be profitable. Sometimes things have to be done simply for the greater good. That is where government comes in. We need a smarter, modern, more efficient government. Those things matter more than size. But continue with the talking points, don’t let me stop you.
(ir)Rational
May 17th, 2011
10:52 am
Joe – I was just BS’n Bosch. Did you see my message about where there was a Godfather’s?
Adam
May 17th, 2011
10:52 am
OH PLEASE.
Jay did not say anything about Herman Cain being bad or unqualified BECAUSE he is black. All you people insisting now that the left is racist probably also believe Obama is racist. What a crock! Get your heads out of the talk radio sand and learn something for a change.
I am half convinced you guys are making such claims because you think everyone on the left thinks everyone on the right is racist. Hint: WE DON’T THINK THAT. So stop trying to “get even.”
getalife
May 17th, 2011
10:52 am
getalife 10:49 – way to use the “shift” key.
cain is not able.
Exjupiter
May 17th, 2011
10:53 am
Dear Jay,
What a good little liberal you are! Good boy! Your literary nonsense is perfect for you and your clan there at the Atlanta Urinal.
Sue
May 17th, 2011
10:53 am
Any candidate that is committed to saving our country and getting us out of the hole our current President has dug for our country is a legitimate candidate. He is far more qualified than Obama, whose claim to fame before becoming President was being a community organizer. Maybe if someone ran our county like a business, our country wouldn’t be in this mess. No more nanny state, balance the budget, and get back to making America great! And these are the goals of Herman Cain.
St Simons - we're on Island time
May 17th, 2011
10:54 am
3 chords and the Truth – Georgia will never support him in a run. Too many racists. He already tried to run for the Senate and lost badly to the lily white Johnny Isakson, you know the real estate developer largely responsible for that wonderful traffic you have up there. Sad, tragic, poetic justice for the cons, though.
Bosch
May 17th, 2011
10:54 am
“Any candidate that is committed to saving our country and getting us out of the hole our current President has dug for our country ”
Yeah, all this sh*t started January, 2009.
Joe Cool~"El Jeffe Obama" Tells Birthers,"Thanks For Playing BI+CHES"
May 17th, 2011
10:55 am
****BREAKING NEWS****
You CONs Dont Have ANY Legitimate Presidential Candidates!!
Doc Durdin
May 17th, 2011
10:56 am
Jay, You need to read more books… Regan was not the smartest man on the planet, but like Herman he had common appeal and pride in who we are as a people. You like many of your ilk are out of touch. I’ll take common sense over a liberal education any day.
Cheers
Adam
May 17th, 2011
10:56 am
Maybe if someone ran our county like a business, our country wouldn’t be in this mess.
You’re right. It wouldn’t be in THIS mess. It would be in a MUCH WORSE mess.
Chaps
May 17th, 2011
10:56 am
“Herman Cain isn’t legitimate presidential candidate.”
You wish. As Rush says, the Left will always tell us whom they fear.
Str8UpNoChaser
May 17th, 2011
10:57 am
BTW The republican/tea party ran on jobs jobs jobs last november. All I’ve seen so far is abortion abortion abortion. Where is the jobs bill?