Deal signs illegal immigration bill

TV cameras were rolling today as Gov. Nathan Deal signed House Bill 87 in a ceremony at the Capitol, one day before taking off for a trade mission to Europe.

The bill’s chief sponsor, state Rep. Matt Ramsey, R-Peachtree City, has denied charges that the legislation mirrors Arizona’s infamous immigration bill, and to an important degree he’s right. The new law allows Georgia law enforcement to check immigration status only of those actually being detained as criminal suspects. That’s a more narrowly defined authority than that granted under Arizona law and should reduce the danger of police profiling of Hispanic Americans. Nonetheless, a constitutional challenge of the entire bill still seems inevitable.

On the other hand, the penalties to be assessed against illegal immigrants — up to 15 years for using fake identification to get a job here, for example — are almost cartoonish in their severity, while provisions that supposedly attempt to get tough on business owners who knowingly employ illegal labor are extremely mild and contain no enforcement mechanism. The bill targets the powerless while protecting the powerful, an approach that has failed everywhere it has been tried because as long as the jobs are available, the people will come to fill them.

In other words, it is not a serious attempt to address a serious problem, it is a serious attempt to look tough for purposes of political gain. On those grounds, it is a success.

And it is now law in Georgia, at least temporarily.

– Jay Bookman

296 comments Add your comment

jm

May 13th, 2011
2:02 pm

No e-verify?

Normal

May 13th, 2011
2:03 pm

Big deal (no pun intended). It will never work because nobody will try.

AngryRedMarsWoman

May 13th, 2011
2:03 pm

Enter your comments here

Yahtzee

May 13th, 2011
2:04 pm

JM,

E-Verify is included in the bill, but Jay doesn’t want to mention it.

willie lynch

May 13th, 2011
2:04 pm

Hypocrisy at it’s finest. Great job Nate!

jm

May 13th, 2011
2:04 pm

Yahtzee – I though he was arguing for the longest time that if we were going to be fair and intelligent about immigration, then E-verify was the logical solution…… hmmmm

Jay

May 13th, 2011
2:05 pm

jm, employers will have to submit a statement that they have registered for and use E-verify.

And that’s it. Law enforcement has no power to audit employers to see whether they actually do.

AngryRedMarsWoman

May 13th, 2011
2:05 pm

Guess my ex, who is a cop, is gonna have to marry that illegal Mexican chick he has been dating or they might find out that it ain’t exactly legal to overstay your tourist visa by a few years and have a job. But hey, it isn’t his job to enforce the laws….oops.

Yahtzee

May 13th, 2011
2:09 pm

The only thing the AJC is reporting concerning business using E-Verify is when they are required to start using it. Also reported, “Government officials who violate state laws requiring cities, counties and state government agencies to use E-Verify could face fines of up to $10,000 and removal from office.”

Blue

May 13th, 2011
2:11 pm

Can you expound on what the ‘mild’ consequences for businesses are? I DO agree with you on one point (for a change); I would like to see businesses hit hard. But I still wouldn’t want to be soft on the ILLEGAL immigrants either.

Jay

May 13th, 2011
2:12 pm

And Harry:

“So man-up you pathetic loser.”

“Thanks, but getaclue is such an easy target I often feel small for smacking him down like that. He’s pretty much defenseless in a contest of wits.”

After multiple warnings … see ya.

Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)

May 13th, 2011
2:13 pm

I think just yesterday or the day before the AJC was saying how terrible it would be and how Georgia’s economy will suffer. Today, Deal signs it into law and Jay says its no big deal and nothing will really change.

Dusty

May 13th, 2011
2:17 pm

Once again Bookman attacks the WRONG ones when he writes “The bill targets the powerless while protecting the powerful.”

A more correct version would say that the bill targets those who break American law while protecting those who provide jobs for American citizens..

Deal did not sign an”Illegal immigration bill”. He signed a bill AGAINST illegal immigration. It is strictly against LAWBREAKERS.

Evidently Bookman has nothing against lawbreakers. I think he believes they vote but they won’t if this bill is not overun by Democrats.

Jefferson

May 13th, 2011
2:19 pm

Dumb law, will cost more than it will save.

AMF HC

Jefferson

May 13th, 2011
2:21 pm

What’s funny is nothing as far as the use of their labor will change, it will only cause problems

Jay

May 13th, 2011
2:21 pm

Blue, I’m not a lawyer, so take it for what it’s worth, but I see no penalties for businesses for knowingly hiring illegal workers, only a mild punishment for filing false documents if they claim to use E-verify but don’t. And again, there’s no real means to police that.

I don’t even see an explicit requirement that they use it E-verify for every hire, only a general requirement that they have registered to use the system and that they use it.

Here’s a link to the bill:

http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/20112012/116631.pdf

The section at issue is Section 12, on Page 11. For those unfamiliar with reading legislation, the underlined portions are those portions being added to existing law. The portions with strike-throughs are the portions being deleted.

Guy Incognito

May 13th, 2011
2:22 pm

Harry, WOW, …………Jay’s hunting lodge is filling up with stuffed heads on the wall

The legislation is mostly toothless, but at least it’s a start

Dusty

May 13th, 2011
2:22 pm

Business owners with less than ten workers do NOT have to have E-Verify under the GA bill. That’s what I read.

Jay

May 13th, 2011
2:23 pm

So Dusty, those who knowingly hire illegal immigrants ALSO break the law. You seem to suggest that we should NOT be as harsh with them as with those they hire.

Interesting double standard there. I mean, if the law is the law and all that.

DebbieDoRight

May 13th, 2011
2:23 pm

Why doesn’t Deal sign something that will make jobs go up and the unemployment rate go down? Or better yet, sign something that will eliminate him from profiting from office (like SonnyDo did); or even better, sign something that helps Georgia’s education system! He’s wasting his time and ink signing a bill into law that’ll just be repealed and/or litigated for years to come.

Peadawg

May 13th, 2011
2:23 pm

It’s not perfect, but it’s a good start. Good job Mr. Deal!!

Yahtzee

May 13th, 2011
2:25 pm

Section 7 of HB 87 takes the vehicle away from anyone who is caught using a day laborer for whom they have not verified documentation. It also finds that person between $5,000 and $20,000, and puts them in jail for at least one year, and possibly for as long as five years. And, that vehicle gets auctioned off and the proceeds go to the local police for immigration training.

This section also makes it illegal to “harbor” someone who is undocumented. This could be interpreted to mean that anyone renting property to someone who is undocumented goes to jail and pays a large fine. Maybe the law will encourage property owners from renting to illegal immigrants and require proper documentation.

jm

May 13th, 2011
2:25 pm

Jay 2:05 – that’s pretty toothless. Nevertheless, they’d be breaking the law if they don’t use it. Wonder what the punishment / fine is….

Ernesto

May 13th, 2011
2:25 pm

Sad day for Georgia. This bill is just going to affect our state reputation and economy. This HB87 is unconstitutional. Immigration enforcement is a federal matter.

Nathan Deal is a corrupt politician. Did anyone read or watched Fox5’s reporting that 90k of his campaign founds went to his daughter-in-law? Whenever the reporters from Fox5 tried to go in to the signing of the HB87, they were denied entrance. The officers explained they were following orders. REPORTERS WERE DENIED ENTRANCE TO THE SIGNING BECAUSE THEY REPORTED ON NATHAN DEAL’S SHADY BUSINESS!!! Do you hear this Georgia?! You have elected a corrupt politician!

Dusty

May 13th, 2011
2:26 pm

So Harry’s gone. When does getalife get warnings for the multiple namecalling he so often posts?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

May 13th, 2011
2:26 pm

Any chance that Deal could have signed the bill to avoid more publicity on the $90k paid by his campaign to a company created in 2010 that hired his daughter? I’m sure its merely coincidence.

Peadawg

May 13th, 2011
2:26 pm

As for ” The bill targets the powerless….”

Let me get out the world’s smallest violin and play a sad song for the poor poor illegal immigrants….ESPECIALLY the KSU girl who lied on her application to get in-state tuition. Those poor poor victim!!!!! :roll:

jm

May 13th, 2011
2:26 pm

Jay, if you’re going to pull a plug on people….. “you are a mindless con hack.” we don’t need to guess who wrote that…

Peadawg

May 13th, 2011
2:27 pm

“I see no state penalty for hiring illegal immigrants.”

Kinda like Obamacare…it ain’t perfect but it’s a start.

Jay

May 13th, 2011
2:28 pm

Again, jm, the only punishment I see in the bill is for filing a false document. I see no state penalty for hiring illegal immigrants.

@@

May 13th, 2011
2:28 pm

Well…that oughta make some “Hard-Pressed Democrats” happy.

According to a May 4, 2011, report from the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, 76 percent of “hard-pressed Democrats” — defined as “religious, financially struggling” — agree with the statement: “Immigrants today … are a burden on our country because they take our jobs, housing and health care.”

Who they are: A sizable number are non-Hispanic African American (35%), while 53% are non-Hispanic white. About seven-in-ten live in the South (48%) or Midwest (23%). Most (61%) are female. Two-thirds (68%) have only a high school education or less.

Lifestyle notes: Only 28% have a U.S. passport. More than four-in-ten (43%) describe their household as “struggling.” About one-in-five (21%) are currently out of work and seeking a job. 23% follow NASCAR. 61% regularly watch network evening news and 44% watch CNN.

Perhaps jay’s team would like to call ‘em xenophobes?

Nah…they reserve that label for GOP voters only.

Peadawg

May 13th, 2011
2:28 pm

Jay, y’all need better web programmers over there!!!!!!! I commented on your comment before you posted it! :lol:

Jefferson

May 13th, 2011
2:28 pm

The court will surly strike it down. Just a matter of time and the gov’t’s wasted money.

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

May 13th, 2011
2:28 pm

Jay, this bill aside, what’s been your overall opinion of Deal?

getalife

May 13th, 2011
2:29 pm

cons are soft on white collar crime.

Fact.

jm

May 13th, 2011
2:30 pm

Jay 2:28 – scanning through the document, all I see are $1,000 and $5,000 fines, not to exceed $20k blah blah blah. Ie, as you said, toothless.

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

May 13th, 2011
2:30 pm

getalife
May 13th, 2011
2:29 pm

Gee, would I prefer to be “soft” on a person who hires an illegal alien or to a person who ruthlessly murders people for petty cash? Hmmm………

TaxPayer

May 13th, 2011
2:30 pm

I’m sure this bill was written by ethical Republican legislators given that we have no known unethical ones here in Georgia by design.

getalife

May 13th, 2011
2:30 pm

cons will waste money on appeals to silly laws and call themselves fiscal cons. The lawyers are happy to take your money.

Fact.

Peadawg

May 13th, 2011
2:31 pm

Or maybe I’m psychic, Jay. I have espn. I knew what you were going to say! :)

getalife

May 13th, 2011
2:31 pm

“I think there are some “cons” that are very disgusted by corruption and white collar crime”

Better late than never.

Now, what do you cons propose to fix it?

jm

May 13th, 2011
2:32 pm

getalife 2:29 – color me shocked. I actually partly agree with you. Though I think its bipartisan, and I think your generalization doesn’t apply to all “cons”. I think there are some “cons” that are very disgusted by corruption and white collar crime…..

Dusty

May 13th, 2011
2:32 pm

No twisting around, Bookman.

The laws are applied equally and I favor no one who breaks the law nor did I suggest such a thing. These laws will be hard on some companies who cannot run their work legally. Nobody said differently.

Everyone does not change words to suit their motives as you do. I certainly don’t even if you try to suggest it.

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

May 13th, 2011
2:32 pm

Maybe the Republicans had to pass this bill to see what was in it……

Jay

May 13th, 2011
2:32 pm

Dusty, at your suggestion I’ve just scrolled back thru getalife’s most recent posts. I did find this:

“XX is a boring, crying, con, partisan, hack, troll.

To be ignored and marginalized as a kook.”

And yes, that justifies a warning:

Getalife, no personal attacks on other bloggers. Debate the issues, not each others’ perceived personal failings.

Guy Incognito

May 13th, 2011
2:32 pm

Jefferson

May 13th, 2011
2:28 pm

and the gov’t’s wasted money.

You mean, the taxpayers $. Govt doesn’t have money of its own

I love the concept of litigating against the same provisions that the Federal law follows. Only libs can manage to be sooooooooooooo illogical

Keep Up the Good Fight!

May 13th, 2011
2:32 pm

Well certainly the Republicans have picked up on the simple Day 1 Crim Law discussion….why if we just imposed severe penalties for all crimes that will end them…..

Speeding, <10 miles — cut off 1 hand
Speeding 10-20 miles — cut off 2 hands
Speeding 20+ cut off head

Harsh penalties only on those that are already at the bottom are bound to work!

jm

May 13th, 2011
2:33 pm

TaxPayer 2:30 – that was funny. and true.

Olderandwiser49

May 13th, 2011
2:33 pm

The illegals don’t feel threatened (yet) because they know some smarmy, tree-hugging liberal will be contesting this in court, and that it will drag out for 1-2 years. The convention industry is concerned that Atlanta will lose business because of the law. They keep throwing out the $141 million lost by the State of Arizona, after trying to enact their law, as evidence of the “critical” loss of revenue. As I have pointed out a few times in earlier comments, illegal aliens cost this state over $2 BILLION per year. That is in excess of the amount they allegedly contribute to our economy. If I have to give up 7 cents, and then get a dollar in return, I can’t think of a single reason not to give up the 7 cents! Look at all the discretionary spending that will become available. We won’t have to pay any additional funds to schools. They’ll improve dramatically just from the population changes and shifts. Personally, I think we should send half the savings to Arizona, Georgia’s donation to securing our borders, and help avoid a recurrence of this type of invasion again.

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

May 13th, 2011
2:34 pm

getalife
May 13th, 2011
2:30 pm

Is “sue the deepest pockets” John Edwards a “con”? I know he’s a con man, but is he a conservative?

Left wing management

May 13th, 2011
2:35 pm

Reposting this up here since it fits the topic
——————————————————————–

Reprising the topic we covered some months back, the final culmination of the decades-long realignment of the white South to the Republicans, the complete and utter racialization of Southern politics, which at long last came to pass in Nov. 2010, is covered here in this piece in American Prospect.

….historians may view the 2010 midterm elections as a landmark in the half-century-long political transformation of the region. For the first time since the end of Reconstruction, Republicans control a majority of legislatures in the states of the former confederacy. In North Carolina, which last saw a GOP-led General Assembly during the McKinley administration, Republicans gained a 16-seat majority in the House and a 10-seat majority in the Senate. Likewise, in Alabama, Republicans won near supermajorities in both chambers of the Legislature, ending 136 consecutive years of Democratic control.

To the extent that this is a realignment of state and local Southern politics, it is thoroughly racial. White Southerners have finally lost their tolerance for white Democrats ….

http://prospect.org/cs/articles?article=gone_with_the_2010_win

The upshot: The key for Right wing consolidation of dominance?

Keep the browns down. I.e., keep as many of them illegal as possible.

Think that might explain some recent legislation making its way through the cracker government?

jm

May 13th, 2011
2:35 pm

color me shocked. getalife used upper case letters at 2:36 :)

jm

May 13th, 2011
2:36 pm

Ok, my 2:35 time warp time machine comment…. awesome….

getalife

May 13th, 2011
2:36 pm

“Getalife, no personal attacks on other bloggers. Debate the issues, not each others’ perceived personal failings.”

Thanks Dusty.

I will stop Jay.

Yahtzee

May 13th, 2011
2:36 pm

Why would anyone who is a citizen or a legal immigrant oppose illegal immigration reform? Especially if you legally immigrated to the US, I would be furious that so many people are here illegally while I busted my hump to become a US citizen.

getalife

May 13th, 2011
2:37 pm

Where are you from Yahtzee?

Gale

May 13th, 2011
2:37 pm

I am wondering how much these laws will cost us taxpayers. Consider: we bring criminal charges, we provide legal defense at taxpayer expense, we allow appeals at taxpayer expense, we pay to keep the guy/gal in prison for up to 15 years, then presumably, we deport the criminal. Do we at least get to put this person to work on something to benefit the state while incarcerated? After all, the person is probably better off than where he/she came from. Unfortunately, the loser in this scenario is the probably family at home who now has no access to the illegal’s earnings. This is a lose-lose picture. The only way to deal with the problem is to burn the employers… And enforce visas. There is no reason we should not have faultless tracking of foreigners who enter the US legally.

jm

May 13th, 2011
2:38 pm

I think the blog que just likes to put me before getalife…. :D the blog monster is more biased than FOX :D

Yahtzee

May 13th, 2011
2:38 pm

left wing management,

you are a racist.

getalife

May 13th, 2011
2:39 pm

“you are a racist.”

Um…….

hsn

May 13th, 2011
2:39 pm

Jay,

The concept of a “State Immigration Law” ONLY exists in a tea bag. The Supremacy Clause of the United States Constititution makes this law look stupid, at best. It is a waste of taxpayer money and IT WILL DEFINITELY BE DEFEATED by the FEDS in a lawsuit.

No where in the US constitution can one find the idea that somehow if federal laws are “not being enforced” then the states should “step in.” Will states now print their own currency and claim “we are not doing anything different that the Feds are not doing,” if the Feds are not printing enough??

It is the Federal Government that issues and revokes visas. It is the Federal Government that confers and revokes citizenship. States have ABSOLUTELY no control… NONE.. over immigration. This so-called law is an usurp of the Constitution being displayed by another stupid red state that wants to be popular, even after those passed by AZ and UT are currently on life support.

Obama should put on his radical hat, issue an executive order to grant indefinite relief to the undocumented aliens. This will force the lackadaisical federal congress to address the issue on a national level. And even more important, it will put the muzzle on the idiotic red states dragging our country into Banana Republic levels, where the Constitution means nothing to them. The concept of a “State Immigration law” is a treasonous act, at best and those who promote such actions are anti-American.

jm

May 13th, 2011
2:39 pm

I’m against any stupid law that’s not going to be enforced and is toothless. If they don’t intend to enforce the law, they should take it off the d-mn books.

[...] Bookman: Penalties are cartoonishly severe [...]

Ernesto

May 13th, 2011
2:40 pm

@Olderandwiser49 141 millions lost is just in conventions. You don’t account other businesses and services such as agriculture, hospitality, cleaning services, landscaping, poultry, restaurants, and construction!

remoley

May 13th, 2011
2:44 pm

This is an example of a Political Statement and nothing else. Just like Arizona and Utah’s law, this law will not get pass the courts. Immigration is a Federal Policy and not a State Policy and it will not pass!!

Normal

May 13th, 2011
2:45 pm

Dusty’s a tattle tale, tattle tale…

I guess Harry just wasn’t feelin’ lucky…

Bottom line: I bet our convention halls and hotels are going to feel this pinch. We will be boycotted.

I work for a German company and most of the German’s here are, shall we say, disgruntled about this. Georgia could lose jobs over this. I believe we certainly won’t gain any…

jm

May 13th, 2011
2:46 pm

Al Qaeda is dumb. They killed 80 Pakistani Military personnel as retaliation? Dumb dumb dumb.

jm

May 13th, 2011
2:46 pm

hmmmmm

Sen. Herb Kohl to Retire

By Alex Katz

The four-term Wisconsin Democrat decides not to run for re-election in 2012.

Adam

May 13th, 2011
2:46 pm

Wait so the solution is, if you find an illegal immigrant, you put them in jail for 15 years, effectively making the Georgia taxpayers pay for their food and shelter for 15 years? Wow, what a good idea! (Sarcasm self test complete)

Tundra Dude

May 13th, 2011
2:47 pm

TV cameras were rolling today as Gov. Nathan Deal signed House Bill 87 in a ceremony at the Capitol, one day before taking off for a trade mission to Europe.

If I were his ($$paid$$) advisor, I’d have waited till Friday afternoon, just b4 departure time.

Imo, the taxpaying citizens of Mexico are really lucky. They don’t have politicians so stupid, to be willing to spend $200k or so, imprisoning one illegal. Mostly, they just put theirs on a bus, back to the Southern border.

Normal

May 13th, 2011
2:47 pm

Good manners folks, don’t leave home without them…

jm

May 13th, 2011
2:47 pm

Wooing Latinos, Obama Banks on Words and Strategy Over Actions

By Alexis Simendinger

The president pushes for immigration reform.

ATF

May 13th, 2011
2:47 pm

Without some tough penalties for those who give jobs to illegal aliens, the flow won’t stop. That part of it is a sham. And the only part that really matters in terms of trying to assure we don’t end up in the same spot 20 years from now, assuming we either do another amnesty or kick out the 11 million who are in the States and “solve” today’s problem.

And the penalty for being an illegal alien – up to 15 years i prison – is crazy. Are we going to put someone in jail, feed and clothe him, provide health care? Oh, yeah, that is real bright. If they really implement that part of the law, it will cost tens of millions – hundrends of millions? And those who go to jail – it is a darn sight better than staying in their home country where they can only starve and live in abject poverty. It is still better to take a chance they won’t get caught and come here.

@@

May 13th, 2011
2:48 pm

Getalife, no personal attacks on other bloggers. Debate the issues, not each others’ perceived personal failings.

Huh!!??!!

Spread the luv, jay…they run in packs ’round here. Heck! Even YOU’VE joined in on the feeding frenzy.

Left wing management

May 13th, 2011
2:49 pm

Yahtzee: “you are a racist.”

Well, guess you gotta call it like you see it.

Here’s what one of the lieutenants in the right wing revolution that we’re just now seeing really come into its own said many years ago about voting strategy:

Now many of our Christians have what I call the goo-goo syndrome — good government. They want everybody to vote. I don’t want everybody to vote. Elections are not won by a majority of people, they never have been from the beginning of our country and they are not now. As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down.
– Paul Weyrich

Jay

May 13th, 2011
2:49 pm

Leg, not much to go on so far. No terrible mistakes, no great successes.

The continuing ethics stuff DOES bother me, and the decision to ban Fox 5 news reporters from today’s high-profile bill-signing — and using state troopers to keep them from a public event — as retribution for its reporting on $90,000 in campaign money going to a Deal daughter-in-law is unprofessional and troubling.

it’s also frankly foolish. What is Fox 5 going to want more — standard video of the bill signing, or video of its reporter being barred being of the station’s investigative work? They just gave that story additional legs.

@@

May 13th, 2011
2:52 pm

The new law allows Georgia law enforcement to check immigration status only of those actually being detained as criminal suspects. That’s a more narrowly defined authority than that granted under Arizona law and should reduce the danger of police profiling of Hispanic Americans.

I wouldn’t bet on it. More arrests, more opportunity to check their immigration status.

Peadawg

May 13th, 2011
2:53 pm

“Wait so the solution is, if you find an illegal immigrant, you put them in jail for 15 years, effectively making the Georgia taxpayers pay for their food and shelter for 15 years? Wow, what a good idea! (Sarcasm self test complete)”

Ya that does suck. I’d gladly pay for them a bus ticket back to Mexico though….

Ernesto

May 13th, 2011
2:54 pm

Jay, you found this “unprofessional and troubling”? As Governor of the state and as a grown adult, he’s not supposed to be doing this type of stuff. This is just creating FAVORITISM and blocking the FREE PRESS. I recall that they use to call Roy Barnes King Roy. Well Georgia, it seems we have a new King, King DEAL.

jm

May 13th, 2011
2:54 pm

“it’s also frankly foolish” are you saying Deal’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer? well…. I never (i mean, I agree)

Jay

May 13th, 2011
2:54 pm

I’m curious about the reaction of non-journalists to the Deal decision to bar a particular station from today’s ceremony. Certainly politicians are within their rights not to accept interview requests or return phone calls from journalists they perceive as unfriendly, but barring them from public events strikes me as a dangerous precedent.

Anybody here care to offer a “civilian” response?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

May 13th, 2011
2:55 pm

I’d gladly pay for them a bus ticket back to Mexico

Because illegal immigrants only come from Mexico?

jm

May 13th, 2011
2:56 pm

Jay, I’ll be eagerly anticipating the Middle East George Mitchell departure blog post that is bound to be forthcoming at some point soon….. :D

Southern Comfort

May 13th, 2011
2:56 pm

And Harry:

“So man-up you pathetic loser.”

“Thanks, but getaclue is such an easy target I often feel small for smacking him down like that. He’s pretty much defenseless in a contest of wits.”

After multiple warnings … see ya.

Late but I think it’s worthy for this….
http://lastrow.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/red-card.jpg

Getalife, no personal attacks on other bloggers. Debate the issues, not each others’ perceived personal failings.

http://community.o2online.ie/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/776iCF42AAD58117EC7D/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1

Keep Up the Good Fight!

May 13th, 2011
2:57 pm

Jay, I’d agree that banning them on the basis of who they are or what they reported seems to evade the intent of the open government.

jm

May 13th, 2011
2:58 pm

“You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.”

This must be a new anti-WOW feature developed by the blog monsters…..

civilian response to banning press: absurd, ridiculous, and as retribution, obnoxious. Illegal? No. But the press “fourth estate” thing,…. it should be upsetting, but not the end of the world.

What’s far worse is the million other things that go on…. (in politics in general)

Peadawg

May 13th, 2011
2:58 pm

“Because illegal immigrants only come from Mexico?”

My apologies…..Or a plane ticket.

jm

May 13th, 2011
2:58 pm

Peadawg, I think the point Keep is angling at, and legitimately making, is verifying where these guys come from is not easy. They don’t exactly cooperate. But SoCo probably knows more.

Doggone/GA

May 13th, 2011
3:00 pm

“Immigration is a Federal Policy and not a State Policy and it will not pass”

Minor detail: it DID pass, and has been signed into law. Whether it will REMAIN law is what is in doubt.

Dusty

May 13th, 2011
3:00 pm

Mind your own manners, Normal. I’m for treating liberal posters here just like Jay treats conservative posters. You know what “equal” means?

Jay

May 13th, 2011
3:01 pm

Here’s a link to the Fox 5 report on its banning; there’s also a link to the original news report about the campaign contributions.

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/local_news/FOX-5-Reporter-Not-Allowed-at-Immigration-Bill-Signing-20110513-pm-sd

jm

May 13th, 2011
3:02 pm

Doggone/GA

May 13th, 2011
3:02 pm

“Anybody here care to offer a “civilian” response?”

Well, if I watched that channel’s news…I’d have my popcorn and peanuts all ready!

jm

May 13th, 2011
3:03 pm

Jay, 1 day delay? (wasn’t aware of that).

Suggests there might be some fire where that smoke is puffing out…

TnGelding

May 13th, 2011
3:03 pm

Well, the die is cast. Looks like some jobs just opened up for our spoiled teenagers.

I really thought the business interests would prevail.

Gale

May 13th, 2011
3:04 pm

Normal, if the Germans are here legally, why are they upset about this law. If they are not here legally, they need to get their visas renewed.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

May 13th, 2011
3:04 pm

Right..my problem with Pea’s comment was that a flight option was not offered…not the fact that immigration violators are not all Mexican, the fact that not all hispanics are Mexican and apparetnly no one from non-hispanic countries ever violates immigration laws. [snark]

Misty Fyed

May 13th, 2011
3:04 pm

Until we deal with the employers who enable the illegal immigrants, we are just peeing in the wind. This isn’t anything but a political stunt. It may have started off well intended but these republican congressman lacked the nads to do what was right and caved to big business.

Of course, they came far closer than the current democrats in DC.

Southern Comfort

May 13th, 2011
3:05 pm

Peadawg

Consider that 15 years of paying for meals, housing and clothing as a benefit/consequence of getting what you asked for. Georgians asked for immigration law, so now Georgians will have to pay for it. Either there will be a fee increase (GOP doesn’t increase taxes), or we will continue to take the chainsaw and machete to the budget.

It’s your choice GA.

Jay

I’m surprised that he had a public ceremony. He’s dancing on the sharp edge of a double-edged sword. I didn’t know about the Fox 5 thing though. Maybe he’s a closet liberal who thinks Fox is out to get him.

jm

May 13th, 2011
3:06 pm

I think our governor should himself be put in a “blind trust” while someone else runs the show, and his assets, such as they are, should be sold off at auction to repay creditors.