GOP: The birther craze was Obama’s fault

They will not man up and apologize to our President .

Disgusting.

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The DNC and RNC chairs always seem to be way out there. Maybe by virtue of the process to get to those seats.

By the way. What birth certificate?

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Attention Seniors:

The gop will steal your Medicare.

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getalife 11:25 – fear mongerer. give it a rest.

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getalife 11:25 – BTW, FYI, the GOP can’t steal something away from you that you don’t own in the first place.

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Peadawg, you are correct. I agree it was crazy nonsense from the start, but all Obama had to do was exactly what he did this week and it all would have been done and settled. It comes with the territory as a public official that you have to deal with some things you’d rather not waste your time with but they all have to deal with it. You have to think that there was at least some political calculating going on at the White House to determine how best to use this to their advantage.

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I’m sorry, Jay…it was the supporters of Hillary during the primaries. My bad.

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The vast rw birther smear on the President was proven a lie.

The first document he produced was the truth.

The gop are not adult enough to apologize for their vicious smear.

We need to keep the adults in charge that will not end your Medicare.

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getalife, you’re getting as bad as Scout. Can we put the comment limit on getalife too, Jay?

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“We need to keep the adults in charge that will not end your Medicare.”

All those older than 55 fully protected under existing system. Those younger than 55, gradual adjustments that do change, but don’t end Medicare.

Your complaints about the younger generation being willing to take action to save our country, to carry your generation’s burden and to not put our burden on the backs of another later generation, seem seriously misplaced.

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Republicans are trying to save Medicare.

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“No Peadawg, it was not the supporters of Hillary in the primary.

It was the conservative movement, period.”

Everything I’ve read on Google by simply typing “obama birther timeline” says is started during the Democratic Primaries in Spring 2008. Please let me know if you find anything different.

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“Republicans are trying to save Medicare.”

Blatant lie.

Never, ever let the corrupt gop get their filthy hands on Medicare. Period.

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According to the grab-at-any-straw Thulsa, the brainless birther movement was caused by BHO’s lack of transparency.

And Matti said it perfectly at 11:35…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nGVaLkCQAg

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pea,

The Clinton machine nor the vast rw conspiracy could stop President Obama.

That will not change.

Four more years.

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I did not buy the birther craze.From the beginning it seemed too easy for Obama to release the docs and end the controversy. But as the President refused to release the birth certificate and spend millions in legal fees enforcing that decision, it became strange that he would be so reluctant to show something so trivial.

For him to be on Ophra taking about how he does not have time for such silliness is beyond ironic.

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Now here’s a piece of paperwork that should have been examined before the damage was done.

http://www.iuptown.com/YaleProtest/bushs_yale_transcript.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzLky4U-xCg

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Don’t ya just know Peadawg was the kid on the playground always crying that lil’ Bobby started it! It wan’t hiz fault, waaaaaahhhhh!

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Attn. Seniors,

The GOP is sponsoring a dutch treat “Throw Yourself Under their Bus” day where you can save the GOP the expense, which can then be passed on as yet another tax cut for the billionaires, of throwing you under the bus themselves. They also request that you pay for your meal in advance and throw yourself under the bus before it is served since the meal would only go to waste otherwise.

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“Don’t ya just know Peadawg was the kid on the playground always crying that lil’ Bobby started it! It wan’t hiz fault, waaaaaahhhhh!”

Just pointing out the fact that it wasn’t Conservatives that started this mess to begin with.

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Jay: No Peadawg, it was not the supporters of Hillary in the primary. / It was the conservative movement, period.

It occurs to me, Jay, that no one has pointed out the simple fact that there is simple proof of the purely partisan nature of the birther hysteria.

And that is that were there a single shred of legitimacy to it, if there was the slightest reason to think that it doesn’t issue from the deepest recesses of paranoid delusion, there would be at least a handful of Democrats who would joint there Republican counterparts in supporting the claims of the doubters of Obama’s legitimacy. Just as there are plenty of Democrats who join in with Republicans over various other issues, for example accepting that the deficit and debt are urgent matters, if there were anything to this we would see at least one or two Democrats join the birthers in asking questions. Don’t you think?

This in my mind PROVES the purely delusional nature of the phenomenon.

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Peadawg,

“Did the Clinton’s ever apologize seeing as they are the ones who started this mess?”

Can you provide anything to back up this claim? The right keeps throwing this out.

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So Obama posted the COLB, as True Observer says, “intentionally did this to create concern and consternation”. Gotcha. A US citizen, born in the US, thought it would be a sound plan to create confusion about where he was born.

It’s getting deep in here….

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A voucher to go out in the free market and try to buy comparable coverage constitutes no change in the mind of a con artist. Fortunately, the current and future Medicare recipients are not buying into the Kansas field trip offered up by the GOP via Ryan’s yellowbrick road map.

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What did Obama spend millions on to keep the BC hidden?? I don’t remember a trial….?

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OK, have a great FNM friends and cons.

For you birther bozos…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXGa__ECvnM

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Obama decided to be cute by posting the short form instead of the real birth certificate with signatures.

Nope. Obama posted the legally accepted form. The fact that it did not meet the stringent requirements of the fringe element has no bearing on it. The Hawaiian long form that everybody wanted him to post is not the legal document that proves he’s a US citizen. He gave legal proof long ago when people asked for it.

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“Face it, this was a piece of lunacy created by, fed by, sold by and believed by conservatives.”

GOP lunatics may have fed it, sold it and believed it, but Hillary supporters created it, big guy. Unless you find something that says otherwise…….

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““and the President proved you to be liars.” – took him long enough. I’m glad he finally released it so we can hopefully move onto more important things now.”

Wouldn’t that be great if we could move onto more important things…except the right will not allow that. Now they claim it’s a forged document and they’re starting other conspiracy theories. Perhaps is the Republican had solutions, they wouldn’t be making things up to distract from the important things.

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the “spent millions” to hide it is yet another fantastical piece of this absolutely ridiculous farce.

It did, however, cost real taxpayer dollars to have White House counsel fly to Hawaii to perform this ridiculous bit of political theater.

Obama simply saying “Kiss my black ass” would’ve been so much cheaper.

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Oblahblah –
“We do not have time for this silliness. Hey Oprah, have heard the one about the priest and the prostitute? Because if not, then we do have time for that silliness.”

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Tamika: “But as the President refused to release the birth certificate and spend millions in legal fees enforcing that decision, it became strange that he would be so reluctant to show something so trivial.”

Idiocy, pure and simple. And furthermore, it shows that you don’t understand the nature of slander and accusation.

If someone walks up to you on the street and says they suspect that you beat your wife (or, say, your children) but that they’ll consider thinking otherwise if only you supply them some kind of proof, what is the rational thing to do? In one sense, there’s no way out of the dilemma because the slightest gesture to accommodate the threat (which amounts to extortion) will merely fuel additional demands. That’s simply the logic that human communication follows. The only somewhat desirable way out is to simply refuse the extortion from the get-go by telling the person making the demands to take a hike or ignoring them. What do you not get about that?

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“Obama simply saying “Kiss my black ass” would’ve been so much cheaper.”

As well as much coler, and funnier

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Oops

“cooler”

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“Just admit there’s a jackass element on the right that refuses to accept Obama regardless of what he does.” – Sure. There’s always a jackass element on BOTH SIDES when the other is in office. Absolutely.

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soco

I guess I owe you a drink for the like minded post @ 12:00, ever have an alabama slammer?

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“The birther craze was Obama’s fault”

As usual, Jay, you’re dealing fast and loose with the truth here.

First, it was Hillary supporters who began this issue. Politico had a very good article on this just a couple of days ago. Next, it was a 9/11 “truther” who extended this issue. THEN and only then, did some in the GOP take up this nonsense.

But some culpability should be heaped on Hope & Change ™ for allowing this farce to expand as well. A simple release of the document in question years ago would have shut down 95% of the jerks out there. He was just as bad as a 6-year old who doesn’t stop poking someone when they tell him to stop.

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Mick

Probably not by that name. Not too many different drinks that I haven’t at least tried. As long as it doesn’t involve coconut, I’m game!!

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What? No Royal Wedding commentary?

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You Americans are crazy . . .
You have an amazing president, work with him and support him for the good of your country

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“You’re trying to build up trump as a winner in this? Please stop the spin…”–Mick

I’m not even a Trump supporter, but he completely “punked” Obama and everyone knows it.

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Mick

Hell yeah!!! I’m definitely down for that!!

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usmc

**I’m not even a Trump supporter, but he completely “punked” Obama and everyone knows it.**

Sorry mister but that is a minority of a minority view, if it makes you feel good, go with it..

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granny- What exactly was different about President Obama that made the requirements suddenly change?

I had to show my birth certificate and SS card to get a government job. Why can’t the man we are electing to be OUR leader be forced to do the same?

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“You Americans are crazy . . . You have an amazing president, work with him and support him for the good of your country”–Ray

Welcome to our country…. Can we see you papers please:-)

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And he chose to ignore those requests, thereby exacerbating the issue even further.

And had I been his advisor/speechwriter, he would still ignore those requests followed by the short but poignant phrase, “Kiss my naturally Black ass!” As I’ve said before, nobody that high up in government is going to take office without being thoroughly vetted for security clearances. If there was an issue with his citizenship, that would have came out before he laid his hand on the Bible and took the Oath of Office. I had classmates who couldn’t clear background checks and were booted from the academy before we were sworn in, and my clearance level is nowhere near the POTUS. By the time they finished my investigation, they probably knew more about me than I did.

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JKL2

April 29th, 2011
12:15 pm
granny- What exactly was different about President Obama that made the requirements suddenly change?

I had to show my birth certificate and SS card to get a government job. Why can’t the man we are electing to be OUR leader be forced to do the same?

except, he did provide exactly what was required – what part of that do you not understand? or is that you still cannot get over your childish, venomous, purile hatred of this fine man? why is that? is it because he’s smarter than you? taller than you? better looking than you? has more melanin than you? silly “babbit”

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This from the party of taking responsibility and holding people accountable for their actions?

All righty, then……

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“documents that any rational person already knew existed”

Jay, a rational person would also wonder why the man has spent the money he’s spent and allow a man to go to jail while keeping a document hidden if he had nothing to hide. I’ve asked you countless times how much you would spend to keep your BC hidden if you had nothing to hide and you never answer the question because for rational people the answer is NOTHING.

The funny thing here is the people you call rational actually think this idiot is doing a great job.

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SoCo, I’m not making any case regarding whether the certificate was valid or not, nor have I ever (as you know) disputed his being an American citizen. He should have released it for the very simple to shut down all the noise on the issue.

His releasing it now shows that it was, is, and always would have been a political issue.

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I wouldn’t say it was Obama’s fault. Something he allowed himself to get caught up in is more like it.

He’s kinda slow, our President.

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“He should have released it for the very simple to shut down all the noise on the issue.”

you mean like Bush’s Guard service records?

in fact as i watched what’s his hair talking about how proud he was – all that was missing was a flight suit, an over sized cod piece and a mission accomplished banner

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JKL2

It’s not about credentialing. One can not just get elected into a top secret “need to know” security level. The government takes security clearances very seriously. Look at the stuff they put out for government workers after the wikileaks stuff. By law, I’m still not allowed to look at the stuff that was put out into public domain because I don’t have the security clearance to view that info. Unless it’s declassified, I can face serious consequences for reading information that is now public knowledge.

Dave: His releasing it now shows that it was, is, and always would have been a political issue.

Of course it’s a political issue. One that should have been squelched when he released the official Hawaii document. He released the long form, and people are still b*tching about it saying its fake and stuff. It will be a political issue until he leaves the White House on his final flight home. This is one time when the American public should have been served a warm cup of shut the fu*k up a long time ago.

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Afternoon, USMC

“I don’t know about the Bolsheviks on this blog, but that wedding ceremony was Spectacular.”

The Bolsheviks on this blog are pretty spectacular, too -

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The one perpetuating the whole thing is obama, There’s something with some people who like to create drama in order to justify their existance (Sharpton, Jackson, et al). This was just another way for obama to claim he was an unjust victim and continue playing his race card for what it’s worth.

Why just not say “Black People” instead of some people? Be honest with yourself for once. As you’ve just shown by Freudian slip, it has nothing to do with Obama’s birth certificate as much as it has to do with him personally. That’s ok. Just pray for forgiveness before your judgement day. I’ll pray for your soul as well.

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“This from the party of taking responsibility and holding people accountable for their actions?

All righty, then……”

Personal responsibility is another con lie Paul.

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“The Hawaiian long form that everybody wanted him to post is not the legal document that proves he’s a US citizen. ”

You do know the issue has never been about him being a US Citizen don’t you? Do you even know the differenc between being a citizen and being a natural born citizen as the constitution requires? My guess is you don’t know and don’t want to know.

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If the GOP has had half a brain and it flock the other half, they could decide that pandering to the rich and corporate just makes them look like parasites too week to stand on their own independent ideas.

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Dave R.

April 29th, 2011
12:33 pm
As usual, you deflect like a pro, Granny. We’re not talking about Bush. As that was a political issue as well, I wold have released them.

There are ways to shut down noise and distraction, and waiting over 2 years is not one of them.

You may call it deflection, I would call it more accurately another example of GOP hypocrisy

The noise and distraction is yours little buddy, own it.

You little buddy and your cronies screwed the pooch and the world scoffs at you today and henceforth…..

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getalife

Seen it before, but it still fits. This is as close as you’re going to see them come.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkqgDoo_eZE

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The cons refuse to process the fact that his first document was the truth .

So, not releasing it is another lie and another attempt to smear our President.

Just stop and apologize cons.

Man up.

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RB…now slow down..take a breath..what part of being born in Hawaii does not make him a natural born citizen…and before you begin to rant, cite some legal cases on the issue to back your claims.

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The thing the “Conservatives” forgot was how to sling mud without getting egg on their faces…oops!

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Where are the “he’s hiding something’ people?
Prez O , just k!lled ya’lls poor little dreams. Too funny.
I wish I was at this lady’s house when she got word of the BC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V1nmn2zRMc

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Granny, once again you labor under the misconception that I agreed with any of that nonsense (that you labor under any misconception is standard operating procedure for you).

I am pointing out the stupidity of BOTH sides in this issue; those that created it, and he that exacerbated it.

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afterbirthers….gross.

however funny and accurate

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April 27th, 2011

“Birtherism was, and is, a symptom of something fundamentally gone awry in the national psyche.” Jay Bookman

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Introspection is so needed.

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Relax. Like we say in HR, if you do for one, you do for all. If you make exceptions, then inherently you will be making future policy. Going forward, I will expect that candidates from BOTH sides will show their “Long Form” BC as well as anything else that they might want Obama to come up with before the next election. Not a fan of the man, but fair is fair. I will also fully expect that any candidate that fails to comply with the aforementioned request will be put under the same microscope as Obama has been under.

I’ll be curious to see in the next election exactly what criteria will be deemed acceptable in order to run for the office of POTUS.

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‘I find his self-promotion rather nauseating.’

Ewe must REALLY hate The Donald…

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“The GOP may had taken it and ran with it…but they didn’t start it.”

and the cougars dropped it, the GOP took it as their own, and are now laughingstocks

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USMC,

I don’t understand your need to engage in name calling, but I enjoyed the ceremony very much!!! It was quite lovely, indeed. I normally HATE getting up while it’s still dark, but champagne in the orange juice makes it all better! Haha! I might get up early more often if mimosas are a regular part of a balanced breakfast.

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Oily Taitz, before she was shouted down by Lawrence O’Donnell, claimed on MSNBC the other night that Obama’s Selective Service registration will prove he is not a citizen entitled to hold the presidency. Same old story, Chapter 2. (And to hello? at 11:53 — Obama spent millions to fight ridiculous lawsuits that claimed for idiotic reasons that he faced some legal reason to release his birth certificate. Case closed. It was the birthers’ fault that these nuisance lawsuits were filed.)

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SoCo- Why just not say “Black People” instead of some people?

You mean African-Americans? (Even though most couldn’t point out Africa on a map). It’s easy to point out blacks (as in my examples) but it goes beyond race. My not liking our president has nothing to do with the color of his skin. It has to do with him being incompetent and just another part of the Chicago crime syndicate. He just as goofy and corrupt as Blagojevich. He just has better PR, fall guys, and the ability to throw the race card at anything.

My soul is fine but thanks for praying for me. Just be sure not to do it too loudly or they’ll tear up your Demwit card for violating seperation of church and state.

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Granny, so to turn your point around on you, it was all those people with a D next to their names that kept the Bush Guard record issue going?

You remain one of the truly clueless blogger here.

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Do you even know the differenc between being a citizen and being a natural born citizen as the constitution requires? My guess is you don’t know and don’t want to know.

As usual, your guess is wrong. Part of my job requires me to have a vast understanding of citizenship, how it’s derived, and other things pertaining to it. I also know a little about the vetting process for people who have top secret clearances, and the US government does not give those out like M&M’s at Halloween.

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USMC

The Bolshevik Party ceased existence in the 1950s.

So I guess you’re saying labeling liberals as Bolsheviks is fiction, eh?

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cons refuse to apologize.

It is pitiful.

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getalife

I think they’re secretly in love with Obama.

“Love means never having to say you’re sorry.”

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“The FACT that he was downloaded from the womb of an American woman makes him an American citizen in EVERY way.”

Agreed Dave, but the constitution requires him to be a NATURAL BORN citizen. Until you’re willing to learn the difference in the two terms, you’re not going to understand the argument.

Case closed on you understanding the issue.

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“until you understand the difference between being a citizen and being a natural born citizen, there is no point having the conversation with you.”

Make sure you stick the flounce, RB.

Peadawg, you still dislocating all your fingers trying to point them in another direction? Didn’t your kindergarten teacher whoop your butt enough for that? When adults screw up, they admit it, apologize, and move along. They don’t shriek about what someone else is doing as a distraction.

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Dave R.

April 29th, 2011
12:52 pm
Granny, so to turn your point around on you, it was all those people with a D next to their names that kept the Bush Guard record issue going?

You remain one of the truly clueless blogger here.

nope, it never caught on with the right leaning corporate media like birtherism now did it? how many times did Malkin or Geller or Hannity or Beck or demand to see the guard records? how many times did you see the subject come up on ABC, CBS NBC??

I have a great clue, you are being disingenuous.

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If the Birthers like conspiricies so much, why haven’t they tried to uncover the Right Wing conspiricy that allowed Obama to become president in the 1st place?

Why didn’t Bush and Cheney do something about Obama when they had the chance?

Why did they allow John McCain to pick such an obviously weak running mate?

Why didn’t the Karl Rove machine switch into high gear when victory seemed inevitable?

Why was Obama given a free pass to slide through the required seurity clearence that ALL Presidents must pass?

Come on Birthers, I’m waiting!!!!

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Actaully RB, Dave R has it right…..you still have yet to back up the mindlessness with actual legal reference. Maybe you want to try going back to Inglis v Trustee’s of Sailor’s Snug Harbor?

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“The Bolshevik Party ceased existence in the 1950s. So I guess you’re saying labeling liberals as Bolsheviks is fiction, eh?”–Paul

No, Paul, You are definitely alive and well, while grossly misguided, dishonest, and destructive.

But no worries, as long as you FEEL good, right?

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“Agreed Dave, but the constitution requires him to be a NATURAL BORN citizen.”

What part of EVERY WAY do you NOT understand, RB?

Hint: “every way” means “natural born” as well.

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Still waiting for RB from Gwinnett to provide us with the docket of millions of dollars Obama has spent to keep the document hidden…

Again, spent on what???

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Next up for the birthers: Claiming there was a problem with Hawaii’s admission to the Union.

That after they demand circumcision records.

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JKL2

I don’t use the term African-American unless they were born on the continent of Africa and naturalized as US Citizens. Many people don’t realize that there are White African-Americans as well as Black ones. The only membership cards I carry are my Masonic Lodge, and my National Treasury Employee Union cards. Those are the only organizations I pay dues to.

RB

One other thing about the “natural born” citizen. Had Obama not been born on US soil, he would have had to have a “Certificate of Birth Abroad” issued by the State Dept. I’m more than certain that with the federal workforce having a large GOP presence, that form would have mysteriously surfaced if he had been born outside the US.

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This is what I have been saying the entire time. Hussein is more worried about campaigning and his birth certificate than he is about jobs, budget and the economy.

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“nope, it never caught on with the right leaning corporate media like birtherism now did it?”

No, it only caught on with the left-leaning rest of the media, Granny. Remember the CBS faked documents expose? And don’t even go there with the documents being produced weren’t fakes. I used to work for the company that produced the printer/typewriter used by the ANG during the Bush timeframe. That printer never contained the typeface used in those documents.

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USMC

“Dishonest and destructive’?

Feeling a bit frustrated, are we?

JKL2

“I’m sorry for having a president who chose to hide evidence and cause division within our country when he could have easily stopped the conflict.”

Jay wrote several threads with the idea it was great political tactics and theater for Pres Obama to just let the issue fester and watch conservative Republicans give the impression to Independents and Undecideds that conservative Republicans were a bit whack-o.

I’m trying to remember, is that argument you made one that was made during our discussions on those threads? Or is this after-the-fact damage control?

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Have you guys noticed that all of the pictures of Obama in Alabama show him with his sleeves rolled up, as if he actually working. And all of the pictures show him hugging and talking to the black residents of Alabama. He NEVER ceases attempt to gain a campaign opportunity. hahah

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RB,

No, I don’t blame the R’s only. But they caused the majority of the deficit, and they are blaming Obama for the whole thing. That’s where I have a problem.

Obama added to the debt by:

Putting the wars in the budget.
The stimulus, of which 40% of the cost was tax cuts.
The renewed Bush tax cuts.

The first 2 were needed. Definitely not the tax cuts. The tax cuts have been around for close to 10 years. Where are the jobs?

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I am sure when Trump is president he will give Obama a job at one of his golf courses. He would probably make a decent waiter or a cart cleaner.

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getalife- Too many lies and smears .

Don’t try pushing your “liberal ethics” on me. Just because you bought their line of crap doesn’t mean you force the rest of us into believing it.

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Hello? You’re right. All of the legal battles have been fought by attorneys working for free. Happens all the time. My bad.

Maybe there is a blog over at Nickelodeon you can join?…

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Hi Midori!!!

Fun times, eh?

Personally, I liked the line about questioning if there was a problem with Hawaii’s admission.

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Jay….Granny is name calling again. Boot her!

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usmc@1:05

That was pretty lame. I don’t know but trump to me has always been a contemptable shill. I tried watching his show “the apprentice” and the one conclusion that I came away with is that rather than sukking up to that jerk and getting the win, I’d rather have told him that you can take this job and shove it up your …..now that’s good tv…

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“Have you guys noticed that all of the pictures of Obama in Alabama show him with his sleeves rolled up, as if he actually working.”

I hope Obama isn’t counting these as the SHOVEL READY jobs he lied about; I mean promised.

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Mick…..it is a television show that supports charities. It is for entertainment purposes only. Come on now.

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Jay, while some conservatives are Birthers, please don’t put them all in the same pot.
Fox news is a conservative channel and I have heard O’Reilly several times stating that he believed Obama was a citizen.

It’s like me saying Liberals are whackos, that statement is true, but not true for all Liberals.

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uga

At least he landed and didn’t do a flyover like some other dumb arse president..

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Mick…..oh that is right. I have seen the people of Alabama shooting, looting and raping each other like they were in Katrina. I would not have landed in that filth either.

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“oh so one dan rather story that he get’s fired over is equal to all the past two years of birtherism? REALLY?”

No, it is the magnitude of seeing what once was a respected journalist doing so that comes close. And he wasn’t fired for that story. His producer was.

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JKL2…..I have someone here in my office that is a white african american. They are disgusted by the term African Americans for the black race.

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“Love to chat but I have to finish my work so I can go watch my Cardinals kick some Brave a$$ tonight.”–JKL2

Wake Up, and get back to work!

If we catch you sleeping on the job again, your fired!

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So I guess what it amounts to is, the birthers and the RNC are admitting they’re pretty easily manipulated?

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Seems to me the only legal cost Obama incurred was to have his lawyer petition the state of Hawaii to release the form….

Anything to add, RB from Gwinnett??

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Tick…tick…tick….

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Poison……at least the people of Alabama are not raping, looting and murdering each other.

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“All of the legal battles have been fought by attorneys working for free.”

He didn’t have to battle anyone. The state of Hawaii was handling the wackos that challenged it.

“I hope Obama isn’t counting these as the SHOVEL READY jobs he lied about; I mean promised.”

You mean the jobs the GOP blocked in the Senate?

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Left wing management

April 29th, 2011
1:19 pm
poison: “while some conservatives are Birthers, please don’t put them all in the same pot.”

Right wingers might not all be birthers, but – as I said earlier – ALL birthers are by definition right wing. Period.

LWM, So are you saying that Chris, ( I spit when I talk ) Matthews is a right winger? because as you know he called for Obama to release his Birth certificate many many Monthe ago.

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Mick….no reports yet…probably because everything is destroyed.

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UGA1999

April 29th, 2011
1:22 pm
Poison……at least the people of Alabama are not raping, looting and murdering each other.

Dude, you have ne mixed up with someone else, apology accepted.

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“Do you even know the differenc between being a citizen and being a natural born citizen as the constitution requires? My guess is you don’t know and don’t want to know.”

John McCain was born in Panama

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Granny….squirm no……vomit yes.

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Peadawg,

“Hillary supporters in 2008 were right wing? Who knew!!!”

Do you not comprehend? That is total BS.

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Doggone….which makes him a natural citizen of the United States fool. See the Demoncrats are the birthers. They started with the debate first with McCain.

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Look up Philip J. Berg, former Deputy Attorney General, Commonweath of Pennsylvania and Hillary Clinton Supporter vs. Barack Hussein Obama and then tell me no Hilliary supporters were ever involved in the Obama birther issue. Mr Berg also claimed that Obama was a citizen of Indonesia and as such could not be a citizen of the United States.

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UGA1999

April 29th, 2011
1:28 pm
Granny….squirm no……vomit yes.

so you admit to worms

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Trump said we would all be very surprised when he announces next month.

The announcement will be that he is challenging the Idiot Messiah for the Democrat nomination.

You heard it here first.

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“Do you not comprehend? That is total BS.” – mm, google “obama birther timeline” to see where all this originated. Then get back to me about bs.

“are you saying that wasn’t sufficient?” – It was sufficient for me, yes. But not of others obviously. Obama should have shut them up 2 years ago. We have more important things to talk about.

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UGA,

“mm….who is in control of the senate again?”

That is pathetic. You know damn well it takes 60 votes to override a filibuster. You wingnuts are not only dishonest, you are devoid of facts.

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mm…..who is in control of the senate again???

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Some of you folks show a pettiness that is ugly when speaking about the president. It is a reflection of your character and seriousness.

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From all Repulicans and Conservatives from sea to shining sea, we hereby extend this heart felt apology to Obama for doubting anything he has said where he did not back it up with proof.

We are now on the Hope and Change wagon and eagerly await the fruition of all Obama’s promises.

Thank you for showing America the light, Mr. Obama.

ttt

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So… I guess RB’s and Dave R’s new conspiracy theory is that President Obama gave billions of our tax dollars to Hawaii to manufacture a long form birth certificate and make it look old in order that secretive “Return King Kamehameha to Power” supporters and even more secretive “Communist Kenyan Muslim” supporters can continue to overthrow America…is that correct, guys?

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Joe mama…..actually you are wrong again. You say “Trump hardly talk about anything BUT the birther issue”. Liar, the only reason he kept talking about it is because the left wing media kept asking him about it. Trump 1 Obama 0

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Jay….only have mine was hijacked first.

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“I’m so sick of the liberal lie of Bush tax cuts increasing the deficit.”

Ya they are only getting half of the equation. Tax cuts + increased spending = increasing the deficit. It’s not just one or the other…it’s both.

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Joe Cool….”looks black”…..<——racist!

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“Or a citizen of the United States…Explain this, please”

It is qualified by the phrase following: “at the time of the adoption of this Constitution” and it was put there so that the people living in the new USA could be elected, even though they were not born in the “USA” (because it didn’t exist when they were born)

That phrase actually qualifies both restrictions. Because you can’t be a “natural born” citizen until AFTER the Constitution was adopted.

It is that qualification that prevents naturalized citizens like Arnold Schwarzenegger from being eligible to run for President.

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Peadawg: “Hillary supporters in 2008 were right wing? Who knew!!!”

If a Democrat or someone to the Left of Obama makes an issue about his citizenship, that’s not birtherism. It might be political opportunism, but it’s not birtherism.

You have birtherism the moment you become intolerably irritated at some perceived alien quality or otherness in Barack Obama, which finds expression in the demand for proof of citizenship (which can’t actually be provided; even presence at his birth would have been insufficient, since if Obama is truly Other, then he might even possess supernatural powers and thus might have even created a whole fake world, with hospitals and doctors to boot, to fool his victims).

Poison pen, if Matthews really did call for the release of the extra birth documents, it was out of irritation and a desire to see an end put to the matter, not birtherism (see above).

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Bush’s job killing tax cuts produced 4-5% unemployment. Obozo would kill for Bush’s unemployment numbers.

Oh, and revenue went UP after His tax cuts were fully implemented in 2003.

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Thanks Jay.

I should not have called what’s his name a porker.

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Granny….apology accepted.

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Normal: “Or a citizen of the United States…Explain this, please.”

“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

Easy. Any person downloaded from the womb of an American woman is a natural born citizen.

Case closed.

Move on.

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You can have a balanced budget and still have a deficit. Example, you live on your paycheck without borrowing or charging your expenses, but you have a mortgage. (Current in payback)

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Peadawg…being “proven false” on this blog doesnt mean a thing!

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Oh, I get it, now, Normal.

Reading comprehension is your friend. You’re barking up the wrong tree with me.

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Jefferson…..cent or cents? Just asking?

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or being petty?

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…add Mighty Righty to my conspiracy list…

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Somewhere in the darkest pits of hell, Lee Atwater is laughing his head off.

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Dave R.

April 29th, 2011
1:48 pm

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Wow! UGA1999 has to be told that he is one of the attackers that Jay is referring to in his comment. Just, Wow!

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LBB,
Prozac can still be your friend, if you’ll just let it…

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TaxPayer….way to address the issues! Like Obozo Hussein you would rather divert, hide and run than address what is really going on. Good work!

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Trump is the “monster” that ate Hussein and made him fold. Great job Mr. Trump.

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Normal….no kidding! hahah

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UGA — “Joe mama…..actually you are wrong again.”

No, I’m right. And you even *admit* it below. (laughing)

“You say “Trump hardly talk about anything BUT the birther issue”. Liar”

No, I’m a truth-teller on this.

“the only reason he kept talking about it is because the left wing media kept asking him about it.”

And here it is. He kept talking about it — and you *admit* it.

If you’ve got a clip of him giving a calm, cool and collected speech on a substantive policy issue, I’d be interested in seeing it. But I’m not holding my breath.

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Our founders were all part of the conspiacy to overthrow the Brits as were a few thousand other Patriots.

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Like Obozo Hussein you would rather divert, hide and run than address what is really going on.

I must have missed something in that statement that indicated a willingness to have a serious discussion. In fact, it sounds more like an attempt by UGA1999 to mask the egg on face.

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For the economically challenged righties:

If you cut your income, even if you keep your spending levels the same, the result is deficit spending. Facts are facts.

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OR

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”

Anyone born inside the United States *
Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe
Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
*******Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year*********
Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
******* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)*******
A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

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LLB, You’re going to say that from 2003-2004 tax revenues went up and that proves tax revenues have gone up during the entire time the tax cuts have been in place (2000-now)? Really?

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peadawg

We have this argument every day, stick to your guns and more importantly, your common sense. Up is not down and blue is not green…

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“But isn’t being born from an American mother qualify you as “natural born”?

That’s the million dollar question that will be argued in court endlessly. The argument is that according to the precedent set, a person born in the US of a non US citizen is a US citizen, but not a natural born citizen and does not qualify to be president. It appears Obama’s father was not a US Citizen which would make Obama a citizen, but not a natural born citizen.

Whether he’s voted out in 2012 or leaves in 2016, I think either event will occur before the rest of that debate is settled in the courts. However, I do think it needs to be settled so we don’t have to repeat this discussion in the future.

I’m sure the attorney’s in those court battles will work for free too, Hello?

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Does anyone have a copy of Bush’s driving and military records?

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Ragner… Really? Who was forcing Fox to run all those stories and claims by Trump?

Did I miss it or has RB failed to provide any substance to his “natural born” nonsense claims?

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“Does anyone have a copy of Bush’s driving and military records?”

Unimportant. Bush is no longer President.

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RB, try this on…

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national

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Dude, RB, give it a rest already.

“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

Key words are OR A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES. He’s a citizen of the United States, get over it. Damn…..

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“do they actually expect people to believe such nonsense”

Of course they do, Jay. For some time now, the Republicans have been using the brainwashing and propaganda methods taught to them by their supporters in the advertising industry. Couple that with the common mentality of their voters and almost anything they say will be believed like it is Gospel. This explains how our worst president ever, George W. Bush, got elected and re-elected and why Donald Trump might actually wind up being a name on the ballot.

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the real point is not his BC, but the FACT that he was not raised as an American

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Its Obama’s fault that he is black and there are a lot of racists out there?

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@@ — “That’s the heading over at PUMAS Unleashed…you know…the Draft Hillary group? Hillary’s a Democrat as are her supporters. No?”

I’ve never for a moment believed that the PUMAs were a Democratic group, regardless of what they say. Very few of their policy positions line up with anything Hillary Clinton ever espoused, and since the election, they’ve done little but parrot GOP talking points.

I frankly think that they were a GOP front group that wanted Hillary nominated so that she’d help Republican turnout in the polls in November 2008. As I recall, GOP party faithful *wanted* Hillary to be the Democratic nominee for exactly that purported reason.

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“It’s alright, Peadawg. You see, Hillary is making him do it.”

Still can’t wrap your head around the fact that Democrats who supported Hillary started the whole thing during the 2008 primaries, Jay. It’ll be alright punkin. I pwomise.

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Obozo’s deficits belong to Obozo, because he did nothing to CHANGE things, in fact he blew a trillion just on a failed stimulus package that wasn’t “paid for”.

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Kam @ 1:37

I think that’s 2 yellow cards now.

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Funny how all those republican Obama haters in Alabama are now eagerly standing around with their hands out now that they need some federal help. Perhaps this is where we should do a little budget cutting. Then lets see how loud they scream. You get in return what you pay for.

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“Obama should be the one for apologizing for not releasing the damn thing 2 years ago.”

Actually the copy certified by the State of Hawaii was released 20 years ago. Only those wishing a black man was not the President of the United States had a problem. And maybe, to be fair, those ignorant that Article IV, Section 1 of the US Constitution even exists.

How many of you saw or asked to see George W Bush’s birth certificate?

How many of you saw or asked to see Bill Clinton’s birth certificate?

How many of you saw or asked to see George H W Bush’s birth certificate?

How many of you saw or asked to see Ronald Reagan’s birth certificate?

I can go through the other 38 if any of you wish. But I trust you get the idea.

What makes Obama a different case is his skin color.

The mystery is why those who pushed the issue do not have the courage to admit the truth.

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Righty — “You are behind and falling father behind.”

Wrong.

“He wasn’t governor when I was stationed at Barbers Point either which is more useless information.”

Irrelevant. Please try harder to keep up. Don’t be afraid to ask questions.

“He is the present governor and he is the one that since his election injected himself in the “birther” issue which as best as I can tell was the subject of your rant.”

Wrong again. I clearly pointed out that REPUBLICAN Governor Linda Lingle vouched for the authenticity and validity of the President’s birth certificate in 2008.

Who the Governor of Hawaii is now has nothing whatsoever to do with that fact.

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And jconservative wins for putting what’s really the issue out on the table.

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What these dumb idiots dont understand the world is laughing at us, when you vote the President in office then you undermine him with this none sense.
We have got to get rid of the birthers and Fat ex druggers , high school drop outs like Rush Limbaugh another piece of sucm who never rallied or went outside of his building to stand up for anything.
Please idiots whether you like his political views or not you are making Americans look like a bunch of 20 centuary back woods idtios.

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“and we all know what two yellow cards mean….”

An exceptionally wide stance at the urinal?

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Dear Keep @ 2:22, your class shows in your posts.

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Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 29th, 2011
2:11 pm
Ragner… Really? Who was forcing Fox to run all those stories and claims by Trump?

Did I miss it or has RB failed to provide any substance to his “natural born” nonsense claims?

KeepUp, I have necer heard anyony that works for Fox claim to be a Birther, O’Reilly put that to bed many Months ago.
Trump, who I don’t care for is news, like it or not, he claims to be a Presidential contender ( rino ) and will not get the Reoub nod because most Repubs don’t like him.
He has been on many news outlets Lib & Con because he claims to be running, again like it or not.

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Gm

Yes, get your jack -booted brown shirts to drag every conservative off to the re-education camps. How trully “tolerant” of you. How DARE anybody not think like you!

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Enjoy the rest of the afternoon one and all, I must take leave of the blog. However I hope to be pleasantly surprised to check back later to see RB from Gwinnett detail for us all of the legal battles that have taken place to keep the document hidden – AS HE CLAIMS. It sounds as though it was a fascinating bit of courtroom wrangling, however I can’t get RB to share the details. Oh well….

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I’m assuming your 2:26 is towards me Jay (if it isn’t then my bad)…what does that have to do with the 2008 Democratic primaries?

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“What makes Obama a different case is his skin color.”

jconservative, I will not deny that the impetus of many concerning this issue has been skin color. However, the life history and his complete and total lack of vetting by the media which fawned over him had some to do with it as well.

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Joe Mama — reference your 1:37: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O-87CAAImk

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“It’s pitiful. Just pitiful. Do they actually expect people to believe such nonsense? Unbelievable.”

Gotta agree with Jay on this one. Most Americans don’t care where he was born, I know I don’t. What’s important is what kind of leader he is. He may not be the greatest in the history of the Presidency but he’s a lot better than the idiot who preceded him.

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Peadawg @ 2:14

I want whatever you ate for lunch.

Jay @ 2:21

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Jay, I’m Republican, Conservative with tea party leanings. I never cared about the man’s birth certificate; what I do care about is his inability to do anything constructive. Anybody can give sound bites, even you. Obama is a shallow man who is clueless about running this country. That is a much bigger issue than a few nut cases who worry about and debate his birth place. Regardless of where he was born, he is starting to look like Jimmy Carter and the longer he is in office, the better GWB will look and I’m no fan of his either. What about a column that addresses the man’s deficiencies Jay? You had no trouble pointing out GWB’s. This man is an ostrech putting his head in the sand with no idea how to get us turned around and you continue to help him by focusing on trivia put forth by God knows who & who gives a bleep about birthers anyway?

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Southern Comfort,

I had a nice bowl of leftover gumbo with some sausage cut up in it. You must have missed my “political correctness” rant from Jay’s circumcision blog yesterday….go take a look at page 3(3:36 and 3:43).

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Larry and other wingnuts,

Don’t you realize that just because YOU think he’s doing a poor job of running the country, it does not mean that everyone does? If YOU want to write a column about specifics of what he’s done to ruin the country, why don’t you? While I won’t speak for Jay, I do not feel that Obama is doing a bad job as POTUS, and maybe, just maybe, the person who runs this blog feels the same way and that is why he does not write about it.

And Peadawg,

A few Hilary supporters may have started this, but it certainly wasn’t them that has kept this alive for two years. Or even two weeks.

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“But isn’t being born from an American mother qualify you as “natural born”?”

Not if you’re too dark.

Besides, we don’t need some liberal-activist judge with their fancypants talk, WhirledNutDaily should decide the meaning of “natural born.”

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bosch

I echo that sentiment, Obama is doing OK, considering the pile of turd he inherited…

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Normal — “Joe, I was stationed in Hawaii (Navy) for over five years. When were you there?”

I was at Schofield Barracks from ‘88-’92. We deployed a lot, but it was a pretty sweet place to be stationed, even when you only had a day or two off.

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I think wall st is taking a nap today, after the early morning wake up for the wedding….

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jm

**We need a few guys left there to tell the drones where to go….**

Agree, we have the technology, bring on the cold, cashless war..

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“The next problem Obozo solves ” will be how to find a replacement: just keep doing what he’s doing….

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Mick,

Yeap. It’s always amazing to me to see the people whine about why Jay doesn’t write about something he probably doesn’t believe — it’s the epitome of arrogance and well, just plain stupid.

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Mick 2:43 – or at least comparatively cheap…. nothings free and we’d still need some boots on the ground….. (just not nearly as many). Afghanistan is coming to a 1/2 decent conclusion, they just need to finish it up asap (I guess it’ll take 2 more years, but it seems like an eternity).

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“I do think it is disingenuous of you to keep harping on Hillary supporters as being the chief architects of this ridiculous conspiracy theory. You know that’s not true.”

You just said “A few Hilary supporters may have started this”. Which is it, Bosch?

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lbb

I like your prediction that trump will challenge obama as a democrat. If that happens, then trump will go down in flames with a saddam like inspired “mother of all battles”, the result will be about the same…

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Fix-It

Of course they are laughing at the bigots still hating the President, this man b/c was seen in 2008.
Obama should have never had to address this issues, thesee are the same people that did not vote for him any way.
Now Trump is calling on his grads in college, now if Obama had a football or basketball scholarship from these universities , would he have been out?
The worst kind of bigot is the the one in denial, you people are not Americans, I’ll rather have people from another country as my neighbor then you idiot bigot Americans like Rush, Hannity, birthers.

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Joe Mama

April 29th, 2011
2:41 pm

I was there 75-80…They had just finished the the Arizona Museum. I was deployed ‘76, but went to a repair tender for the rest on my time there. Had an apartment in Pearl City for my family and time off. I had a great time there…even with my wife, heh, heh…

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Larry,

“what is his plan for reducing the deficit”

From what I’ve read he has a committee working on that, and from what I’ve heard he plans to let the Bush taxes expire and cut spending.

What is his plan for Syria

What? So now the conflict in Syria is somehow top front of what’s most important to you? Can you slow down on your poutrages just a bit? We have wingnuts on here whining that he’s gotten us into three wars and now you want a fourth? Only then to see people whine about it?

What is his plan for Libya?

Isn’t our involvement there pretty much over now?

“What is his plan for reducing our dependance on foriegn oil other than keeping our tires inflated”

Well, we now have increased domestic oil production than in previous years, and there is increase federal funding for nuclear power and other alternatives such as natural gas and clean coal (which I think is bullshyte — there is no such thing as clean coal).

“What is his plan for funding his health care initiative”

For one thing, making everyone pay into it instead of just those of us with insurance who wind up paying for everyone else’s health care costs.

Anything else I can help you with?

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lbb@2:50

That’s really silly and far out fantasyland. I think your head is in a rush or something…

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It’s galling that now they try this spin, and just like everything Republicans say and do, this is based on hatred. I’m surprised that more of them don’t choke on their own bitter bile as they spread lies, hatred and violence.

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Bosh – what spending cuts is he willing to make that will have an impact? And will he let ALL the Bush cuts expire or just for the “elite”? If not it’s more of the same bs. 2/3 of the revenue reduction was caused by cuts to the middle and lower income groups and if he’s serious about debt reduction, he needs that 2/3’s plus more. I noticed how willing he and the Dem’s were to cut into this years spending……..yeah he’s as effective as Jimmy C.

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Mick 2:49 – I think everyone’s on the same page of a reasonably swift draw down…

Jay 2:56 – those butterfly’s can be vicious little creatures. someone trading in greek bonds is sending a message to DC….

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Bottom line the whole birther, Glenn Beck, ” Take our country back “, Fox News, Tea Party, Donald Trump etc etc boils down to this

Alot of people dont like and cannot stand the fact that a black man is in the White House.

All of these different things give them cover to be racist without really just coming out and saying it.

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” You may become EOI very soon at the rate you’re going.”

I can’t find an meaning on google for ‘EOI’ that makes sense so I have no idea what that means.

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Note to self–exit bond market and go long on Norwegian Kronor.

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I take a little norweigan wood, isn’t it good, myself…

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LBB 3:07 – yes. Although, gold energy, foreign currencies work, I settled for necessity retailers as a cheaper alternative. Ie, Wal-mart looks cheap next to $110 oil (as a hedge).

BTW Canada works too

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Can’t wait for history to explain how making $1.5 trillion annual deficits the new normal proved Obozo’s unfathomable consciousness.

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I see obama as this-
http://www.credoaction.com/comics/2011/04/the-adventures-of-middle-man/

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“EOI = Equal Opportunity Instigator — I know this because I had to ask too. ”

Ah, ok. Yeah I definitely like being an Independent. I get to f*k with both sides now.

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“Still can’t admit that Liberal Hillary supporters started this whole thing (and yes the GOP took it and ran with it, we know that)?”

Group A: starts fruitcake rumor, wanders off for new shiny object.
Group B: runs with fruitcake rumor, launches websites, files lawsuits, plays footsie with fruitcakes for years even after confronted with clear evidence they’re fruitcakes.

The only thing sad about this, Pea, is you thinking this gives you any kind of cover. It’s like watching the Donald prance about screaming “he proved me completely wrong, I WIN!!!”

Get help, soon. Salving your ego by denying reality is not a good thing.

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@@ — “Into conspiracy theories are ‘ya?”

Still calling people bigots, are ya?

BTW, my name’s not Fred, but if you enjoy calling me that, go right ahead.

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Gold and energy are too volatile for my money. I’m going with a basket of currencies from the more fiscally sound countries…Norway, Switzerland, NZ, Australia

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Apologies for the double post; I appear to be lagging as well.

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lbb

Answer this question: How were we supposed to pay for two wars with tax cuts? Does that make any sense what so ever? After ww11 did we use tax cuts to pay for it? War bonds, yes…tax cuts – NOOOOOOOO

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The birther craze was Obama’s fault

I agree. First they produce a short-form (crude forgery), claiming it’s the only one.
The new Gov of Hawaii said there’s no long form on file. Now this latest (crude forgery) mysteriously appears, guaranteed to be the Real McCoy. (NOT)

Here’s what wrong with it:
The term _African_ was not used in any state back in 1961 to label persons with negroid features.
The correct term (used in all english-speaking countries, is Negro.
trivia: Africa is a continent, not a race. There’s millions of African-born caucasians and Indians.

Also, in the space for _Country (of father’s birth) it has _Kenya, East Africa_.
Sorry, but there’s no such continent as “East Africa”.

Here, a Georgia dude, using Adobe Illustrator, uncovered 9 layers to this document. This is another cut-paste job.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY&feature=player_embedded

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Hey Mick, a deficit is a deficit. If Bush were President, I’d be expecting Him to do something about it too. Proposing a 1.5 trillion deficit every year is something only the current president has done, and even counting the wars Bush never added as much to the debt as your Idiot Messiah.

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@Aqua Girl

If this issue was the other way around and a Republican president would not release his birth certificate the same outcome would have been likely, Dems demanding the birth certificate.

The difference here is that when your name is Barack Hussein Obama it seems like there might be a chance you aren’t an American.

Do you not agree that the name is what caused the initial questions? To me, if someone name Barack Hussein Obama is elected president of the US there is nothing wrong with wanting his birth certificate.

And the real question, why not just show it?? It’s like an older brother holding the ball so high to where the little brother just jumps and jumps but cant reach it.

If he was aware of the issue why not show it from the get go?? Seems ridiculous…

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“All of these different things give them cover to be racist without really just coming out and saying it.

Jay,

I think there’s more than just a degree to that. Racism can sometimes be quite sub-conscious, in my opinion, not in the case of the birthers we see here, or in George W’s case, but I think it certainly explains the unprecedented animosity we see — I am constantly surprised at people who I thought were rational (usually older folks) who really go off on Obama for really no reason, they really can’t explain why they don’t like him, alot of times, the only explanation they can give is “just because.”

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lbb

I’ll tell you what, give me your credit card and let me charge up about $3k for a nice late spring ski vacation in colorado. I’ll hand the card back to you and since it’s your debt I’ll expecting you to do something about it too.

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Peadawg is worthless!

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Well, Bookman must be busy. He offered lawsuit leftovers bor breakfast and now, fiddle faddle for lunch. Another pot birther boiler (not even as interesting as THE wedding) for his fawning “lawn” as he calls it. This topic will be dead by next week. Bookman tries to keep it kicking.

What won’t be dead is the fact that Amricans have elected a weak president and they know it. Week after week we see Bungle Barach postpone, excuse, vacation, playtoy interviews (Oprah), useless commissions and then little cheery speeches that amount to nothing more than a row of pins. It takes more than that!

But he is the Democratic child. For them, he can do no wrong. Alas! We need an ADULT! I am voting for the next capable adult that arrives on the scene. That leaves out Obama.

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Joe Mama:

Conspiracy theorists are bigots?

You best talk to Soothsayer about that one.

Doesn’t equate.

This blog gets weirder and weirder.

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“Blaming this on Hillary supporters is like blaming the proverbial butterfly in Argentina for starting Hurricane Katrina.”
Jay – So you are denying the relevance of modern physics and chaos theory…I thought it was the right that denied science according to most on this blog?

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In my opinion, though this never should have been an issue, it’s time for both sides to let it go and move on.

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Peadowgs glad he’s been proven a liar??? He’s truely worthless!!!

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Dave R.,

Boooooooooo. Booooooooo. I call a foul on that — 10 yards, 2nd down.

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dusty

Anybody that puts bush on a pedestal doen’t really know much about adults do they? Go ahead bring it on, wanted dead or alive, stuff like that just might cause some harm, so keep looking through your rose colored bush 3d glasses, it’s a whole different world….

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The GOP can’t stuff the crazy birthers back in the closet. LMAO

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Well, Obama needs to get to work and stop giving them so much ammo to use against him. Ground AF1, already!!! Let Oprah come to the WH. But he did pass the stimulus that got us out of the recession AND THEN moved on to other things. The other $2.6 trillion of deficit spending left over from Bush hasn’t hurt the recovery, either.

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**Obozo owns the budgets he’s proposed**

Yes, he does. Just don’t forget that he has tacked on the war supplementals from the past decade…

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Just like in the “good old days” they want a black man to show them his papers.

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Dave R.,

I know.

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“Maybe it’s good that he isn’t totally consumed by his job and rsponsibilities.”

Not totally consumed?

Try – not even remotely connected to them.

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Obama is quickly LOSING Democratic support:

Debt ceiling: More Democrats threaten to vote against raising borrowing limit
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/debt-ceiling-more-democrats-threaten-to-vote-against-raising-borrowing-limit/2011/04/28/AF5KvY8E_story.html

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It’s interesting to see how the right is always trying to tag obama as a weak leader. This is reminicent of jfk before he was assassinated, the righties called him everything in the book. It wasn’t until after he was martyred that they gave in to the loving legend…

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Yes…………..
the issue of Obama’s birth cert is QUITE the issue ………..for delusional Obama supporters.Birth certs are a product of a corrupt state…not unlike a silly fiat currency.

Anyone that advocates for a big strong centralized government is not an American.That goes for Obama,Ryan,Romney,Huckabee,and all of their supporters.These people, and their state-sponsored supporters, belong on the ash heap of a terrible history.

There is hope……………………and he………..or his followers……………. are coming.

If you turned Metro-sexual or Federo-sexual………………..be afraid……………………
be VERY afraid.

Ron Paul 2012.
A wimp’s worst nightmare.

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Maybe its me but in the foto for this article Trump looks like Walter the Grump Old Man — Walter is much funnier

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/04/donald-trump-vegas-profanity-speech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuCz1-qvVSo

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Who actually acted like a stubborn little child? Obama or the birthers. I would say Obama because he could have put this to bed years ago but didn’t. Tying the GOP to this is disingenuous at best because one of the democrat’s faithful Chris Matthews has howled about it too. What you ignore though Jay is that why is it every time someone of conservative origins appears on a talk show or talk radio this is a question that’s asked? Most Americans could care less. The attention should be solely focused on defeating Obama anyway. Every left wing pundit asks if they will denounce those that howl for a birth certificate. I ask will the democrat party denounce every loon that uses violence and violent rhetoric to try and get their point across. Code Pink, Unions, Black Panthers, Jeremiah Wright… I could go on and on… This is part of the democrat base….

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I get that, Mick. Even with the war spending, Bush added about $500 billion per year to the debt in non-recession years (through FY2007). 2008 was $1 trillion including wars and TARP.

Now Obozo is adding $1.5 trillion or so every year. Unacceptable.

Change.

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“It wasn’t until after he was martyred that they gave in to the loving legend…”

You mean the serial philandering, militarily incompetent, wouldn’t have been President if Daley hadn’t found a few thousand dead people to vote for him legend?

That legend?

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“Obama needs to get to work…Ground AF1, already!!!”-TnGelding

Classic:-)

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Firsties on page 11 BIOTCH unless Jay deletes a previous post.

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Yes, Bosch,

Did I say I didn’t respect Obama? No, I said he was a weak president. If I used some of the names applied to Bush & Cheney as you frequently did and still do, I would be moderated and thrown out. Not to mention your pure prejudice against “old people” you frquently mention.

Yes, I objected to the vitrioloic namecalling applied to Bush and you should be ashamed for being a participant. As to Obama, he is still weak, a very bad characteristic for a President. But I respect his weakness. He can’t help it.

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dave r

Thanks for proving my point, right on…

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Dude…ummm in 1961 there was not a country known as Kenya, there was the Colony and Protectorate of Kenya which was the former East Africa Protectorate. East Africa is often used to specifically refer to the area now comprising the countries of Kenya, Tanzania, and Uganda.

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**I have to show ID to board a plane or buy beer, but Obama thinks he is above all that**

Duh, you’re not the president and never will be…jealous a bit?

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“If this issue was the other way around and a Republican president would not release his birth certificate the same outcome would have been likely, Dems demanding the birth certificate.”

It strikes me that “Tommy would have done it too” is an even weaker exuse than “Tommy does it too”

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@@ — “Joe Mama:

Conspiracy theorists are bigots?”

Not at all. I’m talking about you accusing *me* of bigotry, sir/ma’am. I’d appreciate an explanation of how you arrived at that conclusion. Do you require a link to show you where you made the accusation?

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Attention Seniors:

The gop are trying to steal your Medicare.

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