GOP: The birther craze was Obama’s fault
You know, the shamelessness required to utter things like this is just mind-boggling.
“We’re borrowing four and a half billion dollars a day and this president is more worried about birth certificates, Oprah Winfrey and fundraisers at the Waldorf Astoria,” (RNC Chairman Reince) Priebus complained on “CNN Newsroom” Thursday, a day after the president released his long-form Hawaii birth certificate and then jetted to Chicago for a long-scheduled interview with the daytime queen of talk.
“It’s maddening and I just wish the president would engage in the real issues that are affecting America.”
After years in which members of Preibus’ party and its right-wing media remora complain bitterly that Obama has refused to release his “long-form” birth certificate, spinning absurd fantasies in which a large portion of the GOP base eagerly swallows, the president finally relents and forces release of documents that any rational person already knew existed.
And suddenly it’s the president who is making this an issue and a distraction?
It’s pitiful. Just pitiful. Do they actually expect people to believe such nonsense? Unbelievable.
Then again, given that so many were willing to believe the birther craziness in the first place, it’s not too far-fetched to believe they’ll buy this too.
– Jay Bookman
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Normal
April 29th, 2011
1:53 pm
TaxPayer
April 29th, 2011
1:51 pm
He was just trying on Granny G’s “virtual clothes” on for size…
UGA1999
April 29th, 2011
1:53 pm
Trump is the “monster” that ate Hussein and made him fold. Great job Mr. Trump.
ragnar danneskjold
April 29th, 2011
1:54 pm
I respectfully believe the thesis errs. I am on a lot of conservative mailing lists, and only one ever magnified the “birther” stuff before The Donald decided to ride that horse. So far as I can tell, it was only leftists who kept the issue alive – witness the numerous essays on that topic by our host and his fellow traveler Ms. Tucker. I believe the leftist motivation to keep “birtherism” alive is the same Alinsky-ite strategy that caused them to wallow in the disparagement of the “tea baggers.” It is all a distraction, to avoid discussing the abject and foreseeable failure of “the stimulus” and to avoid discussing the horrific consequences looming from ObamaCare.
UGA1999
April 29th, 2011
1:54 pm
Normal….no kidding! hahah
@@
April 29th, 2011
1:54 pm
“Obama’s birth certificate proves Americans are powerless”–April 27, 2011
That’s the heading over at PUMAS Unleashed…you know…the Draft Hillary group? Hillary’s a Democrat as are her supporters. No?
http://pumasunleashed.wordpress.com/2011/04/28/obama%E2%80%99s-birth-certificate-proves-americans-are-powerless/
Our government and Fourth Estate failed America in this case. We, the people of the United States, had a right to resolution on this crucial issue, but no one did anything about it. In the end, the White House only relented because the administration knew it could cost votes and a much more expensive 2012 presidential run for Mr. Obama.
Money, not democracy was the currency that brought this issue to a final resolution.
The Fourth Estate? It’s the media they’re blaming.
Joe Mama
April 29th, 2011
1:55 pm
UGA — “Joe mama…..actually you are wrong again.”
No, I’m right. And you even *admit* it below. (laughing)
“You say “Trump hardly talk about anything BUT the birther issue”. Liar”
No, I’m a truth-teller on this.
“the only reason he kept talking about it is because the left wing media kept asking him about it.”
And here it is. He kept talking about it — and you *admit* it.
If you’ve got a clip of him giving a calm, cool and collected speech on a substantive policy issue, I’d be interested in seeing it. But I’m not holding my breath.
Mighty Righty
April 29th, 2011
1:55 pm
Normal
Don’t mind being part of a conspiracy, but would like to know what it is.
Mighty Righty
April 29th, 2011
1:57 pm
Our founders were all part of the conspiacy to overthrow the Brits as were a few thousand other Patriots.
NIght Train
April 29th, 2011
1:59 pm
“Considering the history of the constitutional qualifications provision, the common use and meaning of the phrase “natural-born subject” in England and in the Colonies in the 1700s, the clause’s apparent intent, the subsequent action of the first Congress in enacting the Naturalization Act of 1790 (expressly defining the term “natural born citizen” to include a person born abroad to parents who are United States citizens), as well as subsequent Supreme Court dicta, it appears that the most logical inferences would indicate that the phrase “natural born Citizen” would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship “at birth” or “by birth”.[17]”
Since mama was a US citizen, Obama is a US citizen.
TaxPayer
April 29th, 2011
1:59 pm
Like Obozo Hussein you would rather divert, hide and run than address what is really going on.
I must have missed something in that statement that indicated a willingness to have a serious discussion. In fact, it sounds more like an attempt by UGA1999 to mask the egg on face.
Joe Cool~President Obama Tells Birthers,"Thanks For Playing BI+CHES"
April 29th, 2011
1:59 pm
UDUmmy1999 Got called out…too funny.
mm
April 29th, 2011
2:00 pm
For the economically challenged righties:
If you cut your income, even if you keep your spending levels the same, the result is deficit spending. Facts are facts.
avyionna
April 29th, 2011
2:01 pm
Seriously, I’m am soooo tired of this whole situation, it was not needed nor productive to our country.
But for the record, Pres. Obama did release his birth certificate in June of 2008! It is the same legal document that we all in the US get for ALL legal purposes!
NIght Train
April 29th, 2011
2:01 pm
OR
Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”
Anyone born inside the United States *
Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe
Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
*******Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year*********
Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
******* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)*******
A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 29th, 2011
2:01 pm
When income goes up, it’s nor a cut. For you math-challenged victims of public schooling.
Peadawg
April 29th, 2011
2:03 pm
LLB, You’re going to say that from 2003-2004 tax revenues went up and that proves tax revenues have gone up during the entire time the tax cuts have been in place (2000-now)? Really?
Left wing management
April 29th, 2011
2:06 pm
ragnar: “So far as I can tell, it was only leftists who kept the issue alive – witness the numerous essays on that topic by our host and his fellow traveler Ms. Tucker. I believe the leftist motivation to keep “birtherism” alive is the same Alinsky-ite strategy that caused them to wallow in the disparagement of the “tea baggers.” ”
Wow. And the loop is close.
That’s true delusion for you. The conspiracy theory gives birth to a new conspiracy theory, packed on top of the old one.
Mick
April 29th, 2011
2:06 pm
peadawg
We have this argument every day, stick to your guns and more importantly, your common sense. Up is not down and blue is not green…
Joe Mama
April 29th, 2011
2:06 pm
Mighty Righty — “The Governor of Hawaii is Neil Abercrombie, Democrat”
Who just took office last December. I’ve met Mr. Abercrombie and I’ve shaken his hand. He was running for Congress when I was stationed in Hawaii.
But in 2008, in the run-up to the election, REPUBLICAN Linda Lingle was Governor of Hawaii. So what do you have to say now?
RB from Gwinnett
April 29th, 2011
2:06 pm
“But isn’t being born from an American mother qualify you as “natural born”?
That’s the million dollar question that will be argued in court endlessly. The argument is that according to the precedent set, a person born in the US of a non US citizen is a US citizen, but not a natural born citizen and does not qualify to be president. It appears Obama’s father was not a US Citizen which would make Obama a citizen, but not a natural born citizen.
Whether he’s voted out in 2012 or leaves in 2016, I think either event will occur before the rest of that debate is settled in the courts. However, I do think it needs to be settled so we don’t have to repeat this discussion in the future.
I’m sure the attorney’s in those court battles will work for free too, Hello?
Mighty Righty
April 29th, 2011
2:07 pm
I see after two weeks of doing nothing, our President finally decided to show a little compassion for those unfortunate people who were harmed by the terrible disasters that have beset our country. Welcome to the real worled Mr. Presisent! By the way, he still has not responded to the people of Texas. He responds to politics, not pain. Nice!
Road Scholar
April 29th, 2011
2:08 pm
Does anyone have a copy of Bush’s driving and military records?
Peter (for Sarah Palin)
April 29th, 2011
2:10 pm
Why is ‘the’ Donald dithering about his candidacy ?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 29th, 2011
2:11 pm
Ragner… Really? Who was forcing Fox to run all those stories and claims by Trump?
Did I miss it or has RB failed to provide any substance to his “natural born” nonsense claims?
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 29th, 2011
2:11 pm
Bush’s military records? Check with Dan Rather.
Dave R.
April 29th, 2011
2:12 pm
“Does anyone have a copy of Bush’s driving and military records?”
Unimportant. Bush is no longer President.
Thulsa Doom
April 29th, 2011
2:12 pm
Mick,
Are you denying that Obama has added nearly 5 trillion in new debt? Are you also denying that his fiscal deficit for FY 2011 is 1.65 trillion and that is own administration forecasts deficits through the year 2020.
As for oil big oil does not set the prices- OPEC does. And for the cost and inflation regarding oil you are incorrect the president does in fact bare a great deal of responsibility. We purchase oil in dollar denominations. With the vast amount of money printing and the ever worsening debt crisis our dollar becomes weaker and weaker and thus oil becomes more and more expensive when bought in weaker and weaker denominated U.S. dollars. This money printing and excessive debt accumulation in 2 1/2 years very squarely falls on Obama’s head.
He is directly responsible for it. And the fact that the Saudis flat out ignored his plea to pump more oil and instead cut production shows you that world’s leaders do not fear the U.S. and absolutely do not respect us with this weakling in the oval office.
NIght Train
April 29th, 2011
2:12 pm
RB, try this on…
Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
Mighty Righty
April 29th, 2011
2:14 pm
Joe Mama
You are behind and falling father behind. He wasn’t governor when I was stationed at Barbers Point either which is more useless information. He is the present governor and he is the one that since his election injected himself in the “birther” issue which as best as I can tell was the subject of your rant.
Peadawg
April 29th, 2011
2:14 pm
Dude, RB, give it a rest already.
“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”
Key words are OR A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES. He’s a citizen of the United States, get over it. Damn…..
jm
April 29th, 2011
2:15 pm
mm 2:00 pm – the problem was, federal spending didn’t stay the same. It increased drastically. Thanks to entitlements, and then, later, due to Obama’s massive increases in discretionary spending.
carlosgvv
April 29th, 2011
2:15 pm
“do they actually expect people to believe such nonsense”
Of course they do, Jay. For some time now, the Republicans have been using the brainwashing and propaganda methods taught to them by their supporters in the advertising industry. Couple that with the common mentality of their voters and almost anything they say will be believed like it is Gospel. This explains how our worst president ever, George W. Bush, got elected and re-elected and why Donald Trump might actually wind up being a name on the ballot.
Jay
April 29th, 2011
2:15 pm
It’s alright, Peadawg. You see, Hillary is making him do it.
w in Marietta
April 29th, 2011
2:16 pm
the real point is not his BC, but the FACT that he was not raised as an American
Hello?
April 29th, 2011
2:16 pm
Now I’m really confused…some of you claim Obama spent millions to keep the document hidden (hi RB), while others claim he was playing politics the whole time and he had the form all along.
Can’t you crazies get your stories straight???
Steve
April 29th, 2011
2:16 pm
Its Obama’s fault that he is black and there are a lot of racists out there?
@@
April 29th, 2011
2:17 pm
Although Fred chooses not to engage me, I’ll offer a sampling of Trump’s substantive policies.
Straight Talk from Donald Trump about Jobs and the Economy
There’s nothing calm, cool and collected about Trump, but he has been talking about things other than Obama’s birth certificate….issues that the other candidates dare not discuss. His approach holds a certain appeal to some. Left-wingers have echoed his sentiments in the past.
Joe Mama
April 29th, 2011
2:17 pm
@@ — “That’s the heading over at PUMAS Unleashed…you know…the Draft Hillary group? Hillary’s a Democrat as are her supporters. No?”
I’ve never for a moment believed that the PUMAs were a Democratic group, regardless of what they say. Very few of their policy positions line up with anything Hillary Clinton ever espoused, and since the election, they’ve done little but parrot GOP talking points.
I frankly think that they were a GOP front group that wanted Hillary nominated so that she’d help Republican turnout in the polls in November 2008. As I recall, GOP party faithful *wanted* Hillary to be the Democratic nominee for exactly that purported reason.
jm
April 29th, 2011
2:17 pm
zeeee Chinese are not to be trusted. noooope. not very trustworthy at all
Peadawg
April 29th, 2011
2:18 pm
“It’s alright, Peadawg. You see, Hillary is making him do it.”
Still can’t wrap your head around the fact that Democrats who supported Hillary started the whole thing during the 2008 primaries, Jay. It’ll be alright punkin. I pwomise.
Fix-It
April 29th, 2011
2:18 pm
Part of the vetting process ALL candidates MUST show proof of birth in the US, the problem is he did not. Then dragged it out for almost 2 years, McCain showed his and his school records… Why does Obozo seem to get a pass, and better yet if this was such a distraction, any idiot can get their birth certificate for $25 from the hospital records office. The only reason this dragged out is the arrogance of the narcissistic president we have. So yes it is his fault it took him this long, how stupid that you blame the GOP for what Obozo did, so tell me again which GOP’er held back the Obozo birth certificate?
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 29th, 2011
2:18 pm
Obozo’s deficits belong to Obozo, because he did nothing to CHANGE things, in fact he blew a trillion just on a failed stimulus package that wasn’t “paid for”.
ragnar danneskjold
April 29th, 2011
2:19 pm
Dear mm @ 2:00, “If you cut your income, even if you keep your spending levels the same, the result is deficit spending. ” Static economic analysist is to economics what the flat earth society is to geography.
Dear Keep @ 2:11, good afternoon. I am not certain which of my arguments you contest, but The Donald revived an issue that was dead on the conservative side. I argued that leftists kept it alive long enough to allow The Donald to grab attention with it, but it does not logically follow that it was conservatives who embraced the issue. No, we conservatives are focused on the failure of Obamanomics and the folly of ObamaCare – the massive leftist increase in wasteful spending and leftist erosion of freedom are fully sufficient to occupy our teeny minds.
Southern Comfort
April 29th, 2011
2:20 pm
Kam @ 1:37
I think that’s 2 yellow cards now.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
April 29th, 2011
2:20 pm
“It’s pitiful. Just pitiful. Do they actually expect people to believe such nonsense? Unbelievable”
What’s pitiful but believable is a desperate president with approval ratings stuck in negative territory bowing to the likes of Donald Trump who once supported him but whose out there now trying to fool people that he’s a conservative. Attempting to paint all conservative Republicans as radical birthers is a failing strategy. The concern among conservatives, Independents and some moderated Democrats is this presidents failures.
Shep
April 29th, 2011
2:20 pm
Funny how all those republican Obama haters in Alabama are now eagerly standing around with their hands out now that they need some federal help. Perhaps this is where we should do a little budget cutting. Then lets see how loud they scream. You get in return what you pay for.
Normal
April 29th, 2011
2:21 pm
Joe Mama
April 29th, 2011
2:06 pm
Joe,
I was stationed in Hawaii (Navy) for over five years. When were you there?
jconservative
April 29th, 2011
2:21 pm
“Obama should be the one for apologizing for not releasing the damn thing 2 years ago.”
Actually the copy certified by the State of Hawaii was released 20 years ago. Only those wishing a black man was not the President of the United States had a problem. And maybe, to be fair, those ignorant that Article IV, Section 1 of the US Constitution even exists.
How many of you saw or asked to see George W Bush’s birth certificate?
How many of you saw or asked to see Bill Clinton’s birth certificate?
How many of you saw or asked to see George H W Bush’s birth certificate?
How many of you saw or asked to see Ronald Reagan’s birth certificate?
I can go through the other 38 if any of you wish. But I trust you get the idea.
What makes Obama a different case is his skin color.
The mystery is why those who pushed the issue do not have the courage to admit the truth.
Jay
April 29th, 2011
2:21 pm
and we all know what two yellow cards mean….
Joe Mama
April 29th, 2011
2:22 pm
Righty — “You are behind and falling father behind.”
Wrong.
“He wasn’t governor when I was stationed at Barbers Point either which is more useless information.”
Irrelevant. Please try harder to keep up. Don’t be afraid to ask questions.
“He is the present governor and he is the one that since his election injected himself in the “birther” issue which as best as I can tell was the subject of your rant.”
Wrong again. I clearly pointed out that REPUBLICAN Governor Linda Lingle vouched for the authenticity and validity of the President’s birth certificate in 2008.
Who the Governor of Hawaii is now has nothing whatsoever to do with that fact.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 29th, 2011
2:22 pm
Right Ragnar…… Do you happen to vomit in your mouth when you spin like that or are you used to it now?
Never mind. I’ll deal in reality not spin.
Bosch
April 29th, 2011
2:23 pm
And jconservative wins for putting what’s really the issue out on the table.
Bosch
April 29th, 2011
2:24 pm
I know what two yellow cards means, so who gets the boot?
Gm
April 29th, 2011
2:24 pm
What these dumb idiots dont understand the world is laughing at us, when you vote the President in office then you undermine him with this none sense.
We have got to get rid of the birthers and Fat ex druggers , high school drop outs like Rush Limbaugh another piece of sucm who never rallied or went outside of his building to stand up for anything.
Please idiots whether you like his political views or not you are making Americans look like a bunch of 20 centuary back woods idtios.
ragnar danneskjold
April 29th, 2011
2:25 pm
If any would appreciate a clever economic-nerd rap, here is a scripted semi-musical debate between actors representing Lord Keynes and Friedrich Hayek,
wethealliance.com/blog/must-see-fight-of-the-century-the-economy
Dave R.
April 29th, 2011
2:26 pm
“and we all know what two yellow cards mean….”
An exceptionally wide stance at the urinal?
Jay
April 29th, 2011
2:26 pm
yeah, from those “leftists” at PUMA Unleashed:
“Given the leftist media’s attempts to now ridicule Trump, it appears the Donald has more than spooked the Obama elitists into full-on “fight back to protect Obama” mode. No other major media or political figure has been willing to take on such attacks in the direct and aggressive manner as has Donald Trump. And while JournOlist Ben Smith of Politico, and left-leaning websites such as The Smoking Gun, attempt to attack Trump for raising the Birther question, Trump refuses to let the issue alone – pushing it even further into the open and demanding President Obama simply produce his actual birth certificate….”
Yeah, sounds like Democrats to me all right.
ragnar danneskjold
April 29th, 2011
2:26 pm
Dear Keep @ 2:22, your class shows in your posts.
Fix-It
April 29th, 2011
2:26 pm
The truth is this should have been a non-issue, Obozo could have shut the birthers up, but he chose to drag it out two years..Obozo made it abundantly clear that this is over, and it is time to work on the real issues, so he went on Oprah….yeah that is way more important than oil prices, wars in the middle east, yep Oprah is way more important… what a loser…
poison pen
April 29th, 2011
2:26 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 29th, 2011
2:11 pm
Ragner… Really? Who was forcing Fox to run all those stories and claims by Trump?
Did I miss it or has RB failed to provide any substance to his “natural born” nonsense claims?
KeepUp, I have necer heard anyony that works for Fox claim to be a Birther, O’Reilly put that to bed many Months ago.
Trump, who I don’t care for is news, like it or not, he claims to be a Presidential contender ( rino ) and will not get the Reoub nod because most Repubs don’t like him.
He has been on many news outlets Lib & Con because he claims to be running, again like it or not.
poison pen
April 29th, 2011
2:26 pm
Meant to say never, sorry
Guy Incognito
April 29th, 2011
2:27 pm
Gm
Yes, get your jack -booted brown shirts to drag every conservative off to the re-education camps. How trully “tolerant” of you. How DARE anybody not think like you!
Mick
April 29th, 2011
2:27 pm
doom
Are you guys ever going to swallow the fact that the previous administration kept the wars off the books? Obama put them on the books, to his detriment because that extra trillion makes it seem like his. Don’t forget medicare part d and then tarp, I’ll meet you half way on tarp, OK? The dollar has been this low before in 08, but we survived it. If we get our fiscal house in order with proper tax rates and cutting, the dollar will stabilize. When this oil binge started the saudi’s pledged to ramp it up to cover libya, they are pulling back probably because they foresee a glut, nothing to do with obama. The saudi’s have always been pragmatic about oil pricing. They know that if it gets too high then the whole world economy will be wrecked, to that end, how does it benefit them or anybody?
Hello?
April 29th, 2011
2:28 pm
Enjoy the rest of the afternoon one and all, I must take leave of the blog. However I hope to be pleasantly surprised to check back later to see RB from Gwinnett detail for us all of the legal battles that have taken place to keep the document hidden – AS HE CLAIMS. It sounds as though it was a fascinating bit of courtroom wrangling, however I can’t get RB to share the details. Oh well….
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 29th, 2011
2:28 pm
Bosch….you mean that this White Power toothpaste commercial by Andy Samberg is not really about the toothpaste?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKMesCAe44Q&feature=relmfu
Peadawg
April 29th, 2011
2:28 pm
I’m assuming your 2:26 is towards me Jay (if it isn’t then my bad)…what does that have to do with the 2008 Democratic primaries?
Fix-It
April 29th, 2011
2:28 pm
Yes Gm, you are correct the rest of the world is laughing because of who we elected, don’t worry we can fix that next year…
Dave R.
April 29th, 2011
2:29 pm
“What makes Obama a different case is his skin color.”
jconservative, I will not deny that the impetus of many concerning this issue has been skin color. However, the life history and his complete and total lack of vetting by the media which fawned over him had some to do with it as well.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 29th, 2011
2:30 pm
Rangar… right because dressing up lies and spin makes it “classy”. Utter nonsense.
Midori
April 29th, 2011
2:30 pm
Joe Mama — reference your 1:37: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O-87CAAImk
Doggone/GA
April 29th, 2011
2:30 pm
“But isn’t being born from an American mother qualify you as “natural born”?”
Yep!
Buckhead
April 29th, 2011
2:31 pm
“It’s pitiful. Just pitiful. Do they actually expect people to believe such nonsense? Unbelievable.”
Gotta agree with Jay on this one. Most Americans don’t care where he was born, I know I don’t. What’s important is what kind of leader he is. He may not be the greatest in the history of the Presidency but he’s a lot better than the idiot who preceded him.
ragnar danneskjold
April 29th, 2011
2:31 pm
Dear Keep @ various times, “Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.”
— Eleanor Roosevelt
Southern Comfort
April 29th, 2011
2:33 pm
Peadawg @ 2:14
I want whatever you ate for lunch.
Jay @ 2:21
@@
April 29th, 2011
2:33 pm
Oops! Private video?
Trump on Obama, China, OPEC and more
And something for the left-wingers.
NY1 Exclusive Donald Trump Slams Evil Bush, Praises Obama
Larry
April 29th, 2011
2:35 pm
Jay, I’m Republican, Conservative with tea party leanings. I never cared about the man’s birth certificate; what I do care about is his inability to do anything constructive. Anybody can give sound bites, even you. Obama is a shallow man who is clueless about running this country. That is a much bigger issue than a few nut cases who worry about and debate his birth place. Regardless of where he was born, he is starting to look like Jimmy Carter and the longer he is in office, the better GWB will look and I’m no fan of his either. What about a column that addresses the man’s deficiencies Jay? You had no trouble pointing out GWB’s. This man is an ostrech putting his head in the sand with no idea how to get us turned around and you continue to help him by focusing on trivia put forth by God knows who & who gives a bleep about birthers anyway?
jm
April 29th, 2011
2:36 pm
Mick 2:27 Simpson and Bowles themselves have said the wars are not the major culprit in the deficit challenge.
Peadawg
April 29th, 2011
2:36 pm
Southern Comfort,
I had a nice bowl of leftover gumbo with some sausage cut up in it. You must have missed my “political correctness” rant from Jay’s circumcision blog yesterday….go take a look at page 3(3:36 and 3:43).
Mick
April 29th, 2011
2:38 pm
jm
Never said they were but during the previous administration they were kept off the books. If we don’t get out of these wars, yes they will contribute mightily to our undoing….
Bosch
April 29th, 2011
2:38 pm
Larry and other wingnuts,
Don’t you realize that just because YOU think he’s doing a poor job of running the country, it does not mean that everyone does? If YOU want to write a column about specifics of what he’s done to ruin the country, why don’t you? While I won’t speak for Jay, I do not feel that Obama is doing a bad job as POTUS, and maybe, just maybe, the person who runs this blog feels the same way and that is why he does not write about it.
And Peadawg,
A few Hilary supporters may have started this, but it certainly wasn’t them that has kept this alive for two years. Or even two weeks.
Joe Mama
April 29th, 2011
2:38 pm
@@ — “Although Fred chooses not to engage me, I’ll offer a sampling of Trump’s substantive policies.”
My name’s not Fred, I’m perfectly happy to engage you and *you* should talk, drive-by.
“There’s nothing calm, cool and collected about Trump, but he has been talking about things other than Obama’s birth certificate…”
If there’s a clip in there, I can’t see it. Got another link, please?
Aquagirl
April 29th, 2011
2:40 pm
“But isn’t being born from an American mother qualify you as “natural born”?”
Not if you’re too dark.
Besides, we don’t need some liberal-activist judge with their fancypants talk, WhirledNutDaily should decide the meaning of “natural born.”
Peadawg
April 29th, 2011
2:40 pm
“A few Hilary supporters may have started this” – That’s the point I’ve tried to make to Jay all day but he just won’t believe it.
“but it certainly wasn’t them that has kept this alive for two years. Or even two weeks.” – I agree.
Mick
April 29th, 2011
2:41 pm
bosch
I echo that sentiment, Obama is doing OK, considering the pile of turd he inherited…
jm
April 29th, 2011
2:41 pm
Mick 2:38 – on that second point for sure, I agree. They both need massive (90%) wind down. We need a few guys left there to tell the drones where to go….
Joe Mama
April 29th, 2011
2:41 pm
Normal — “Joe, I was stationed in Hawaii (Navy) for over five years. When were you there?”
I was at Schofield Barracks from ‘88-’92. We deployed a lot, but it was a pretty sweet place to be stationed, even when you only had a day or two off.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 29th, 2011
2:42 pm
The next problem Obozo solves will be the first.
jm
April 29th, 2011
2:43 pm
I think wall st is taking a nap today, after the early morning wake up for the wedding….
Bosch
April 29th, 2011
2:43 pm
Peadawg,
I do think it is disingenuous of you to keep harping on Hillary supporters as being the chief architects of this ridiculous conspiracy theory. You know that’s not true.
Mick
April 29th, 2011
2:43 pm
jm
**We need a few guys left there to tell the drones where to go….**
Agree, we have the technology, bring on the cold, cashless war..
Larry
April 29th, 2011
2:44 pm
Bosch – what is his plan for reducing the deficit and don’t tell me just raise taxes because there aren’t enough rich people to bail us out.
What is his plan for Syria
What is his plan for Libya
What is his plan for reducing our dependance on foriegn oil other than keeping our tires inflated
What is his plan for funding his health care initiative
Keep drinking that leftwing kool aid
jm
April 29th, 2011
2:44 pm
“The next problem Obozo solves ” will be how to find a replacement: just keep doing what he’s doing….
Joe Mama
April 29th, 2011
2:44 pm
@@ — “Oops! Private video?”
Thank you very much for those links. I’ll watch them in detail at home tonight.
Bosch
April 29th, 2011
2:45 pm
Mick,
Yeap. It’s always amazing to me to see the people whine about why Jay doesn’t write about something he probably doesn’t believe — it’s the epitome of arrogance and well, just plain stupid.
@@
April 29th, 2011
2:45 pm
Fred:
frankly think that they were a GOP front group that wanted Hillary nominated so that she’d help Republican turnout in the polls in November 2008.
Into conspiracy theories are ‘ya?
jay:
Yeah, sounds like Democrats to me all right.
Granted, Democrats have gone “all right” when it comes to Obama’s emulation of Bush 43.
Strange, that.
schnirt
jm
April 29th, 2011
2:45 pm
Mick 2:43 – or at least comparatively cheap…. nothings free and we’d still need some boots on the ground….. (just not nearly as many). Afghanistan is coming to a 1/2 decent conclusion, they just need to finish it up asap (I guess it’ll take 2 more years, but it seems like an eternity).
Joe Mama
April 29th, 2011
2:46 pm
Bosch — “I know what two yellow cards means, so who gets the boot?”
Could it possibly be a sockpUGA?
Peadawg
April 29th, 2011
2:46 pm
“I do think it is disingenuous of you to keep harping on Hillary supporters as being the chief architects of this ridiculous conspiracy theory. You know that’s not true.”
You just said “A few Hilary supporters may have started this”. Which is it, Bosch?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 29th, 2011
2:46 pm
Poison KeepUp, I have necer heard anyony that works for Fox claim to be a Birther
The truth shall set you free:
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201104290004
Mick
April 29th, 2011
2:47 pm
lbb
I like your prediction that trump will challenge obama as a democrat. If that happens, then trump will go down in flames with a saddam like inspired “mother of all battles”, the result will be about the same…