The political quirks of San Francisco have made it a favorite target of conservatives, but I’ve never been tempted to join in the sport. I mean, sure, the folks in Baghdad by the Bay can be a little out there at times, but if you don’t like it, you don’t have to move there, right?
It’s still a great city to visit, and if fate dictated that I had to live the rest of my days looking out over Fisherman’s Wharf and the Golden Gate Bridge, I guess I could probably live with that.
“Will a circumcision ban in San Francisco make, um, the final cut and appear before voters this November?
Proponents of the ban took 12,265 signatures to the Department of Elections today and should learn within a month whether 7,168 of them indeed came from registered city voters. If so, the city will have another one of its classic only-in-San Francisco measures to debate.
Wearing pins reading “May the foreskin be with you,” the backers of the ban gathered at City Hall to turn in their signatures. Then they told reporters more than anybody ever wanted to know about the increasingly controversial procedure….
The ban would outlaw circumcision in the city on any male under 18 years old – even for religious reasons. Breaking the law would count as a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of up to $1,000 and jail time for up to a year. Opponents say the ballot measure would never stand up in court because it violates the freedom of religion clause of the U.S. Constitution.”
Or as Rod Stewart would put it:
415 comments Add your comment
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
7:48 pm
josef nix
If you can figure out how to build a time machine, I’m all for it. I liked hotdogs made at the local drug counter in my hometown instead of McDonalds, but that’s gone, too. We are talking about reality.
Dave R.
April 28th, 2011
7:48 pm
I wold love to know what Constitutional function they’re hanging their ahem, hats – on to justify this one.
the original and still the best John galt
April 28th, 2011
7:49 pm
Some of y’all ought to go to work in the circumcision ward. I hear you get to keep all the tips. You might get ahead that way.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 28th, 2011
7:49 pm
“Where did they shop before WalMart existed?”
Who cares? I think the question is where will they shop if it doesn’t exist anymore.
Are you suggesting that in the land of opportunity, the land of entrepreneurship, no business minded person would be incapable of filling that void without selling their soul to China or greed?
Doggone/GA
April 28th, 2011
7:51 pm
“where will they shop if it doesn’t exist anymore. ”
They will shop at whatever store takes WalMart’s place. Just as they shop at WalMart because the places they shopped before no longer exist. WalMart it NOT essential to life. It’s JUST a store, and not the best of them either.
and I thought you didn’t care about the “collective” Seems like you care a LOT.
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
7:51 pm
josef nix
“The kind that run WalMart…”
the kind that make it possible for a poor person’s dollar to give them quite a bit more than a Mom and Pop store?
Here’s an idea. Let’s get an administration in the White Houser that believes that people should earn a good wage working for successful companies instead of being on the government dole. Then they wouldn’t have to shop at Walmart.
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
7:53 pm
GLL
There are still a number of locally owned and operated of such places within walking distance of my house and a drive up Buford Highway shows that there is still that entrepeneural spirit SoCo mentions alive and well among our immigrants…
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
7:54 pm
Southern Comfort (aka The Man) Doggone/GA
So you both want Walmart replaced. By what? Another big box store that doesn’t buy from China? So where do they buy from? The US? But US goods cost much more so how is that good for poor people?
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
7:55 pm
GLL
Why all of the sudden this great feeling for the poor? No such for Mom and Pop? The more corporate greed, the better, eh?
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
7:56 pm
josef nix
Thee’s a lot of locally owned stores. So why do you think that poor people don’t shop there? Give it a shot. Can you figure out why?
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
7:56 pm
GLL
“But US goods cost much more so how is that good for poor people?”
Uh, gives them a job?
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
7:58 pm
GLL
Wrong. Poor people DO shop there…go shopping in Chambodia…see for yourself…
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
7:59 pm
josef nix
You just said that there are lots of local stores. Make up your mind.
Conservatives have always been concerned about the poor. That’s why we fight Democratic Programs that result in generational poverty. We want everyone to be successful. It’s great for the country. It;s great for all of us.
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 28th, 2011
7:59 pm
josef @ 7:56
Good point.
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
8:01 pm
josef nix
Gives how many a job? So we close our borders and only buy goods made here? I’m all for that.
Soothsayer
April 28th, 2011
8:02 pm
“Let’s get an administration in the White Houser that believes that people should earn a good wage working for successful companies instead of being on the government dole. Then they wouldn’t have to shop at Walmart.”
DAMN! I believe this is the first lucid thought every to come out your brain!
Now, we just have to find that successful company that employs Americans instead of Chinese, Malaysians, Vietnamese, Mexicans, etc.
Please let me know how it all works out!
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 28th, 2011
8:02 pm
Gll
You didn’t hear me say replace them with another big box store. Before Wal Mart, people shopped at the locally owned stores. Are you saying that people are incapable of starting and running their own businesses here?
Retail, manufacturing, logistics or whatever else needs to be done has been done here on this soil longer than we’ve been importing sh*t from China. The main reason we import that cheap crap isn’t because of demand. It was done to lower labor costs to boost profits. People just didn’t wake up one day and start demanding cheap sh*t. I honestly don’t think many people would mind paying a bit more for an American-made product if they had American-made product jobs to pay for it.
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
8:03 pm
Jasef
Let’s have a solution. Don’t bark out one liners. How do we still give poor people value for their dollar and close down the big box stores.
Soothsayer
April 28th, 2011
8:05 pm
Good Little Liberal: let me see if I understand this right. You are in favor of tariffs, quotas, etc. that would restrict or eliminate imports from low-wage, no-environmental laws countries? I just want to be sure I am reading what you wrote correctly.
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
8:06 pm
GLL
@ 6:56
There are. Not nearly as many as there used to be in the smaller towns…that’s where WalMart has done its worst dirt and it’s why they targeted there…easier to put the competition out of business…
And, yes, true conservatives HAVE always been concerned with the poor…there’s just not very many of them left, though…a lot of faux conservatives, true, but few of the real thing…a true conservative is much in favor of Mom and Pop and leery of the hydras…
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
8:06 pm
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
There are locally owned stores everywhere. Ask Josef Nix. So why is Walmart so popular? They can always buy locally made stuff. But they don’t. Why not? Sure a few do, but listen up: This is important:
IF THEY COULD AFFORD TO SHOP SOMEWHERE OTHER THAN WALMART THEY WOULD.
There. I said it.
I know. I should teach economics at Yale.
Soothsayer
April 28th, 2011
8:07 pm
“Conservatives have always been concerned about the poor.”
Unfortunately, this statement cancels out any positive things you have posted on this blog.
Doggone/GA
April 28th, 2011
8:08 pm
“Before Wal Mart, people shopped at the locally owned stores.”
Soco – sorry to disagree with you, but you have to go back a LOT further than WalMart to find those days. Before WalMart there was Sears, Grant’s, K-Mart, Kress – and any number of other chains that I can think of.
It’s isn’t being a chain, or even being big, that makes WalMart so disastrous…it’s their aggressive attitude and undercutting of local prices.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 28th, 2011
8:08 pm
Conservatives have always been concerned about the poor. That’s why we fight Democratic Programs that result in generational poverty. We want everyone to be successful.
Utter nonsense. If that were indeed the case, Conservatives would be fighting to repeal free trade agreements that make it cheaper for companies to outsource jobs and ship their crap back cheaper than it can be made here. If Conservatives were really focused on making EVERYONE successful, they would insist on focusing their economic policies on keeping jobs here. If Conservatives were really focused on making EVERYONE successful, they would be diligent on ensuring that there were adequate infrastructure and access for people to attain that successfulness.
I could keep on, but I’m sure you get the point. And, before you go off on the typical conservative “lefty/liberal” deflective swerve, I’d say the exact damn thing about the Democratic Party too!!
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
8:09 pm
GLL
“So we close our borders and only buy goods made here? I’m all for that.”
Pretty much. And WalMart will collapse in a flash…I’m for it…
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
8:09 pm
Soothsayer
I’m not the one wanting to close Walmart, but everyone is saying that things used to be where poor people didn’t have to shop at Walmart. Well, like it or not, back then we had tariffs, quotas, etc. that would restrict or eliminate imports from low-wage, no-environmental laws countries.
You guys insist that we import oil from countries with no environmental controls. Why stop there?
Soothsayer
April 28th, 2011
8:09 pm
“IF THEY COULD AFFORD TO SHOP SOMEWHERE OTHER THAN WALMART THEY WOULD.”
If Wal-Mart and the rest of Corporate America hadn’t shipped their jobs to China, they wouldn’t be poor!
Doggone/GA
April 28th, 2011
8:09 pm
“How do we still give poor people value for their dollar and close down the big box stores”
We don’t need to close them down. Just think if the positive affect WalMart could have if it went back to it’s “made in America” roots.
Doggone/GA
April 28th, 2011
8:11 pm
“IF THEY COULD AFFORD TO SHOP SOMEWHERE OTHER THAN WALMART THEY WOULD”
And how can they do that if those “somewhere other” stores no longer exist because WalMart drove them out of business? A quick lessong in “loss leader” sales would teach you a lot.
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
8:12 pm
Doggone
“It’s isn’t being a chain, or even being big, that makes WalMart so disastrous…it’s their aggressive attitude and undercutting of local prices.”
Yes. Which is why I dislike them so intensely.
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
8:12 pm
Soothsayer
“Unfortunately, this statement cancels out any positive things you have posted on this blog.”
It might be a good idea that you stop listening to the garbage propaganda coming from the DNC and start thinking on your own. Conservatives want incentives for companies to stay in America and flourish. That makes a good economy and a good economy makes poor people not poor any more.
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
8:14 pm
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
Liberals think what of corporations? Do they like them? Do they want to offer them incentives to stay in the country? Do they believe that unions should have limited or unlimited power over the administration of companies?
Now tell me who is responsible for companies leaving the country in droves?
Doggone/GA
April 28th, 2011
8:15 pm
“Conservatives want incentives for companies to stay in America and flourish”
Admirable sentiment. too bad what they DO contrasts so drastically with what they want.
Mick
April 28th, 2011
8:16 pm
Made in America, almost as mythical as camelot in 2011. Like the legend, it remains to be seen if we can once again, rise, to rightly reclaim what has been lost; real american exceptionalism…
Soothsayer
April 28th, 2011
8:16 pm
I don’t how many of you are aware of Dickensian England in the mid-19th century (1850s). It was the inspiration for many of Dicken’s novels. Things were really bad. Prior to this period, England was a relatively prosperous country. What happened?
At one time, England brought cotton from India to mills in England which wove the cotton into fabric and made clothing from that fabric. Well, someone got the bright idea that it would be cheaper to move the mills to India and make the fabric and clothing in India where the cotton originated from.
Well, the results were devastating for the average Briton. Utter destitute poverty and despair. Let me know if any of this sounds familiar.
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
8:16 pm
GLL
Do you buy at WalMart? Are you poor? Do you have to show your W2 before you go in?
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
8:16 pm
josef nix
The problem is that “a flash” means where will poor people shop?
While we are turning back the clock, can I get rid of this damn cell phone? I hate this thing.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 28th, 2011
8:17 pm
IF THEY COULD AFFORD TO SHOP SOMEWHERE OTHER THAN WALMART THEY WOULD.
I guess you’ve never seen the poor/lower socio-economic class shop at IGA associated grocery stores. I can’t answer for large cities, as I grew up in Alabama. Before the “big box” stores came in, everything was locally owned. The grocery chain was a locally owned chain. The clothing stores were locally owned chains. People who tended to shop at the larger, corporate chains were the kind of people that tended to look down their noses at others. Even into the late 1990’s, I bought clothing from locally owned stores in Montgomery instead of shopping at major chains. If you don’t support local businesses, then they fail. If small businesses are supposed to be the major employers in our economy, it behooves us all to support small businesses when and where we can.
Doggone/GA
April 28th, 2011
8:18 pm
It strikes me that “It might be a good idea that you stop listening to the garbage propaganda” works for BOTH sides
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
8:19 pm
josef nix
Sure I shop at Walmart. Especially for electronics and food. Their produce is always locally grown whenever possible. Kroger imports much of it’s produce.
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
8:21 pm
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
Yes, everything used to be made in the USA. We had tariffs. We controlled our imports. We don’t anymore. Most of that flipped during the 90s. Who was president in the 90s?
Doggone/GA
April 28th, 2011
8:21 pm
“Utter destitute poverty and despair. Let me know if any of this sounds familiar.”
SoCo – that particular result worked in the opposite direction first though. The cotton economny in India was devastated when the British made it illegal for Indians to weave their own cloth. That’s why Gandhi sat in the streets and spun cotton. Because it was illegal for him to do so.
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
8:23 pm
For the record, Unmentionable’s vegetable man is back for the season…specializes in all those great Southern veggies you can’t find for love or money in the chain stores…
and SoCo…
You are so right on that one…now all you’ve got a choice of is Kroger or Publix…
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
8:24 pm
Soothsayer
I asked josef nix this. So what do we do?
Our president is supporting oil companies in Brazil. Unions are marching to CEOs houses and rioting in their yards. We have the second highest tax rates for corporations in the world.
If you ran a corporation, why wouldn’t you leave?
TaxPayer
April 28th, 2011
8:24 pm
Dollar stores are becoming the new Walmart and as the poor continue to get poorer at the hands of the conservatives, I predict a return of the five and dime, in years to come, to displace the dollar stores.
Doggone/GA
April 28th, 2011
8:25 pm
“Our president is supporting oil companies in Brazil”
And we are supporting oil companies in Saudi Arabia. What’s your point?
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 28th, 2011
8:25 pm
Do they want to offer them incentives to stay in the country?
What if instead of offering them incentives to stay in the country, we penalize them for off-shoring?
AmVet
April 28th, 2011
8:27 pm
And, yes, true conservatives HAVE always been concerned with the poor…there’s just not very many of them left, though…a lot of faux conservatives, true, but few of the real thing…
Right on.
Today’s Republicans are almost to a man NOT conservative. Not in any sense of the word.
They are corporatist.
Look at the lame excuses about how unions drove corporations out of this country.
Yet, union membership has dropped from nearly half to less than 10% of the workforce now.
And look at all those heavily unionized aerospace companies and DoD contractors like Boeing, General Dynamcis, Northrup Grumman and on and on and on who are fleeing the country.
Absurd with a capital A.
The masters of misrepresentation…
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 28th, 2011
8:27 pm
Liberals think what of corporations? Do they like them? Do they want to offer them incentives to stay in the country? Do they believe that unions should have limited or unlimited power over the administration of companies?
Hell, I don’t know. Ask a liberal. You’re a “Good little liberal”, so you should know better than me.
Now tell me who is responsible for companies leaving the country in droves?
We’re all complicit. We, as a country, allowed companies to get away from defined pensions for retirements. In turn, we were hoodwinked into putting retirement into “private accounts” i.e. 401k’s. Companies got out of funding retirements and received a new capital stream in return. Since our retirements are now dependent on the markets, we have to cheer on those same companies that screwed us once before to profit like madmen. For them to profit like madmen, they have to screw us again and offshore jobs to cut labor costs in order to boost profits. Without bribing legislators to remove tarriffs, the plan wouldn’t work. Therefore, legislators had to be bribed with campaign donations to remove tarriffs for them to offshore jobs and repatriate the product at the lowest cost possible, thus ensuring us more profits for our 401k’s. In the end, we’re screwing ourselves multiple times and not even getting the common courtesy of a reach around.
Doggone/GA
April 28th, 2011
8:28 pm
” we penalize them for off-shoring?”
What!? You want to interfere in the operation of the free market? How dare you!? /sarc
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
8:30 pm
“Unions are marching to CEOs houses and rioting in their yards.”
Well, if the CEO’s have yards big enough for a “riot,” that might well be part of the problem..
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
8:30 pm
Hillbilly Deluxe
We could. I would be for that, right up to the point that they say, outta here and just move their headquarters.
Did you know that we lost Halliburton? One of the most powerful corporations in the world and they actually paid taxes (unlike GE) and they just split.
I’m not angry. I’m not yelling. I would really like to hear a solution. But penalizing companies into staying here is like trying to beat a wife into loving you.
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
8:31 pm
josef nix
I have 20 acres in the mountains. Why is that a problem? I’m not rich.
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
8:35 pm
GLL
Where do you get the idea I think 20 acres in the mountains is a problem? But, tell me, is it “home turf” or are you an outsider coming in profitting from the locals having to sell off the old place? Just asking since that would color whether or not it’s a “problem.”
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
8:36 pm
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
“We’re all complicit.”
I can’t disagree with that. I can disagree with most of the rest of your post. Forcing them to pay for retirement at 60 when we now live well into our 80s is nuts.
But it was both parties. I used to like Limbaugh until he supported NAFTA. And of course Clinton with a Democratic Congress passed NAFTA.
Our government stinks. This is what I’ve been saying. I think the big difference between the two parties is that the Democrats are just better liars.
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 28th, 2011
8:36 pm
We could. I would be for that, right up to the point that they say, outta here and just move their headquarters.
Well, we could say, “You want to sell your products here that are produced off-shore, you pay an import tariff”. One of the biggest believers in import tariffs was Andrew Carnegie, just saying.
I think the corporate CEO’s need to be asked an honest question, “Is your first loyalty to your company or your country?” In other words, if you have to choose between something that is clearly good for your company and clearly bad for the ol’ USA, which you going to choose?
AmVet
April 28th, 2011
8:38 pm
SoCo, two of the first six draft picks are from Alabama.
The Falcons just traded up to get Cleveland’s pick of Julio Jones.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled bickering…
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
8:40 pm
josef nix
I am selling my house near Decatur. I bought the land about 20 years ago and just finished building my house. Nobody wanted the land. It is either flood plain or short little “knobs”. I now live in a Hollow (or as the locals call it: A hollar. There was a barn here and a cinder block building that is now part of my house.
I will admit, I did get a great deal.
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
8:40 pm
Hillbilly
It reminds me of Perot when he voicede his opposition to NAFTA by saying, if I can get it done for a dollar in Mexiico or eight in the US, I’m a bidnessman…what do you think I’m going to do? Good for me, but bad for the country. Too bad the space aliens had to come to the wedding!
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
8:43 pm
Hillbilly Deluxe
A lot of companies have left us because of those questions. But getting tariffs back is like trying to put the genie back in the bottle.
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
8:43 pm
GLL
Do you pronounce it “holler” like the “locals?” Maybe you contributed more than you think to making more of those “poor people…”
Mick
April 28th, 2011
8:43 pm
Just wait until this comes out on sunday, what kind of animals are these?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/28/lara-logan-speaks-out-assault_n_855101.html
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 28th, 2011
8:44 pm
A hollow is a holler and we call them “concrete blocks”, up here in the Hills.
Left wing management
April 28th, 2011
8:45 pm
GLL: To your earlier point, we’ll have to just agree to disagree or disagree to agree, or something like that.
When you say: “But it was both parties. I used to like Limbaugh until he supported NAFTA. And of course Clinton with a Democratic Congress passed NAFTA.”
I’ll give you points for that. And I suspect we probably have more areas of agreement than it might appear.
Doggone/GA
April 28th, 2011
8:46 pm
“A hollow is a holler and we call them “concrete blocks”, up here in the Hills”
Funny thing about that. What *I* call them gives away where my childhood was spent, if you’re from that area…but in the South all I get is “why do you call them THAT?”
I call them “cinder blocks”
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 28th, 2011
8:46 pm
It reminds me of Perot when he voicede his opposition to NAFTA by saying, if I can get it done for a dollar in Mexiico or eight in the US, I’m a bidnessman…
True enough, and then, they’ll figure out they can get it for 25 cents, somewhere else, and the downward spiral continues. It’s true a rising tide lifts all boats and it’s just as true that a falling tide lowers all boats. Sometimes those boats wind up beached.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 28th, 2011
8:46 pm
Left wing management
April 28th, 2011
7:08 pm
what good is that if my family can’t find housing or live safely?
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Or, you could get a job.
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
8:46 pm
josef nix
I called them hollars the first 20 years of my life.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 28th, 2011
8:49 pm
Hillbilly Deluxe
the downward spiral continues.
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Yes, it does, for folks doing jobs that can be done by an uneducated third-worlder. Stay in one of our awesome public schools, go to college courtesy of the scratch-off customers, show up for work, don’t do drugs, keep your pants up, and you’ll be just fine.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 28th, 2011
8:49 pm
Most of that flipped during the 90s. Who was president in the 90s?
Bush I and Clinton. The question you really need to ask yourself is who legislated it? The president only signs legislation, he doesn’t write, vote, or pass it.
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
8:50 pm
Doggone, Hillbilly
I call them concrete blocks…Uncle Ralph had molds and made his own…built his “block house” (his shop-sanctum sanctorum) out of them…I remember going up North as a child and hearing the term “block house…” I just couldn’t figure it out!
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
8:51 pm
Guys
it’s been a good discussion, but I have to go.
I wish we could decide how things were going to be fixed, but we can’t. We all want the jobs to come back, but we can’t compete with workers who are dirt poor and unless we use tariffs as bargaining chips, we have no options.
I know that you guys will laugh, but there is one presidential candidate who is saying that we need to do that. Yes, it’s Donald Trump. There’s one thing that is for sure: Obama is not going to do it.
Have a good night.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 28th, 2011
8:51 pm
Doggone @ 8:21
That was Sooth, not me…
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
8:51 pm
GLL
“I called them hollars the first 20 years of my life.”
So, why did you stop then?
Doggone/GA
April 28th, 2011
8:54 pm
“That was Sooth, not me”
Oops! got distracted! When old dogs need to go out they let you KNOW!
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 28th, 2011
8:55 pm
I can disagree with most of the rest of your post. Forcing them to pay for retirement at 60 when we now live well into our 80s is nuts.
And retirement age is now what, 65?? 67?? The age could have been moved. Unlike you, I don’t only hold both parties responsible. I also hold us responsible for electing the jackasses that screwed us over. I’m an equal opportunity pessimist. The only time any politician gives a sh*t about us is when they need our vote to remain in office.
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 28th, 2011
8:56 pm
It’s true Obama isn’t going to put on tariffs, but even if he wanted to, Congress wouldn’t let him. That goes for both parties, by the way.
Left wing management
April 28th, 2011
8:58 pm
Lil’ Barry Bailout:
Weren’t you paying attention during re-education camp?
When the capitalists sit on their money because their speculator buddies blew a gigantic hole in the financial system and almost burned down the entire economy and nobody has anything to spend because of the gigantic mountain of debt accumulated during said speculative bubble ….
.. you get the picture.
In other words, there aren’t enough of them to go around Einstein.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 28th, 2011
8:58 pm
Tumps the answer? With what “you’ve had your fun?” He’s never answered the questions about what he would do to resolve these issues. He can’t run a business. He lies. And he has more flip-flops than a loose sail in the wind. He’ll never run. I’d love it if he did……he’s be torn apart by real questioning.
I could go on but why bother.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 28th, 2011
9:01 pm
Time for me to bow out. Y’all have fun, but don’t expect a reach around from either party. If you’re not a top donor or lobbyist, they don’t care about you until it’s time to hit that voter’s screen.
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 28th, 2011
9:01 pm
It’s time to go watch ‘em catch gators. Nite y’all.
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
9:04 pm
Off to catch a bit of the reports from the storms…later…
Kyle
April 28th, 2011
9:08 pm
Next thing ya know, we’ll have back alley brit milahs performed by unlicensed mohels out there! Oi! Dat would be BAD! On the other hand, San Francisco could also bring in more revenue quickly with a mandatory new foreskin tax. Or start requiring all males to carry a foreskin license; the license would cost about $50.00/year and have to be displayed at all times, kinda like a fishing license.
Yippee
April 28th, 2011
9:12 pm
Wouldn’t recommend getting a circumcision at Wal-Mart. Bought some Viagra there and my left leg got stiff.
buck@gon
April 28th, 2011
9:16 pm
Jay @ 2:24pm,
Those bans on female circumcision are bans on FORCED circumcision, right?
The elective kind isn’t banned.
As far as I know, Cynthia Tucker had a voluntary lobotomy.
Doggone/GA
April 28th, 2011
9:16 pm
I’m out too
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
April 28th, 2011
9:33 pm
Circumcision and duck butter…the Bookman blog has degenerated into irrelevancy.
Tommy Maddox
April 28th, 2011
9:41 pm
Just go figure – SF defends male genital items.
Kamchak
April 28th, 2011
10:14 pm
…the Bookman blog has degenerated into irrelevancy.
Quick!
Someone dial 911!
It is painfully obvious that there is a poor soul that has been kidnapped, and is being forced to read and respond to this blog.!
Doggone/GA
April 28th, 2011
10:19 pm
“being forced to read and respond to this blog”
What cracks me up about comments like the one you quoted is that they seem to think that what THEY say has great relevence.
Thulsa Doom
April 28th, 2011
10:23 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 28th, 2011
8:58 pm
“He can’t run a business.”
keep up the good fight,
You might be right about some of your other statements regarding trump such as him being a flip flopper. Very true. But to say he can’t run a business? Seriously? I think even people who hate his guts would agree that the man knows how to run a business. You don’t get to be worth 7 billion dollars by not knowing how to run a business.
Hank
April 28th, 2011
10:37 pm
Thanks for the update, Jay. Life doesn’t get any easier as we go along, but it damn sure gets more interesting.
Kamchak
April 28th, 2011
10:43 pm
Doggone/GA
Well, whaddaya expect from a WATB?
Doggone/GA
April 28th, 2011
10:46 pm
“Well, whaddaya expect from a WATB?”
Thulsa Doom
April 28th, 2011
10:53 pm
Kamchak speaking ebonics- the language of fools. I guess it is true that fools understand each other even through the barrier of race.
Max
April 28th, 2011
10:55 pm
Thank goodness! People have finally realized that it’s a normal, natural part of the penis.
Thank goodness for people in San Francisco otherwise the barbaric sub-human Christians, jews, and muslims would run wild and slice off anything their invisible friend in outter space told them to.
GOD DOESN’T MAKE MISTAKES, BABY YOU WERE BORN THIS WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THANK GOODNESS FOR LOGICAL PEOPLE.There is NOTHING wrong with the penis
leave it alone. You people who want to mutilate babies will surely pay a price
oldguy
April 28th, 2011
11:19 pm
OK a quick note……
First, My apologies Jay, at least once in a hundred you do address stupidity on the left (even if it is unconsequential and trite).
Two, I was born Southern Baptist and it was basically recommended as a health thing for boys (simple and noninvasive).
Third, This is basically a “Gay thing”, Thus SF popular; as apparently Foreskin is a ststus thing in the gay community.
Now, back to real issues ……is that whiteout I see on the long form????? (HA…HA) and who cares!
ABO in 2012!!!!!
(anybody but obama in 2012)……I’ll even take Al Sharpton!!!!
Retta
April 28th, 2011
11:59 pm
Any parent or guardian that cuts, pierces or tatoos their child is denying–in a very real and permanent way– that child it’s right to individual liberty as an adult–the right to choose religion or culture for itself.
E
April 29th, 2011
12:51 am
The wiener snipping jokes sure didn’t last long. How did we get on Wal-Mart?
TnGelding
April 29th, 2011
1:12 am
Lil’ Barry Bailout
April 28th, 2011
8:49 pm
There might be hope for you yet!