No circumstance to circumscribe the circumcised
The political quirks of San Francisco have made it a favorite target of conservatives, but I’ve never been tempted to join in the sport. I mean, sure, the folks in Baghdad by the Bay can be a little out there at times, but if you don’t like it, you don’t have to move there, right?
It’s still a great city to visit, and if fate dictated that I had to live the rest of my days looking out over Fisherman’s Wharf and the Golden Gate Bridge, I guess I could probably live with that.
“Will a circumcision ban in San Francisco make, um, the final cut and appear before voters this November?
Proponents of the ban took 12,265 signatures to the Department of Elections today and should learn within a month whether 7,168 of them indeed came from registered city voters. If so, the city will have another one of its classic only-in-San Francisco measures to debate.
Wearing pins reading “May the foreskin be with you,” the backers of the ban gathered at City Hall to turn in their signatures. Then they told reporters more than anybody ever wanted to know about the increasingly controversial procedure….
The ban would outlaw circumcision in the city on any male under 18 years old – even for religious reasons. Breaking the law would count as a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of up to $1,000 and jail time for up to a year. Opponents say the ballot measure would never stand up in court because it violates the freedom of religion clause of the U.S. Constitution.”
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Cory
April 28th, 2011
3:32 pm
Why can’t we just let the kid grow up and decide for himself if he would like a chunk of his penis cut off? Most of the men in Europe aren’t cut and they seem to be getting along just fine. Sure there are rare infections, but we can deal with those on a case by case basis. There is no other body part that can be legally removed without the person’s consent and without pressing medical need.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 28th, 2011
3:34 pm
All kidding aside…. it does appear to be a very serious issue to those for Genital Integrity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMTuY4Jwkas
WARNING: Some rather graphic pictures — not for the squeamish.
wet wiccan
April 28th, 2011
3:35 pm
JAY!!! When I was in MT school, this was posted on the school’s forum. It’s a collection of funny things typed from medical transcription.
9. Exam of genitalia reveals that he is circus sized.
Here is the rest of it…
http://www.emedinews.com/index.php?topic=63.0;wap2
Yippee
April 28th, 2011
3:35 pm
jm- which dierection did you mean?
For reasons not clear to me at this moment an old dumb joke comes to mind:
What did Liberace like better than roses on his piano? Tulips on his organ.
Peadawg
April 28th, 2011
3:36 pm
“I love how letting a woman choose what do with her body translates into being pro-abortion”
Sorry if that’s not politically correct. Let me get my mini-violin and play you a sad song. K punkin?
jewcowboy
April 28th, 2011
3:36 pm
Paul,
“’bout a quarter inch shorter than it should be…..”
Jay
April 28th, 2011
3:37 pm
Another phrase I never thought I’d see: “genital integrity”
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 28th, 2011
3:38 pm
Glad to supplement your word of the day calendar Jay!
jewcowboy
April 28th, 2011
3:38 pm
Peadawg,
“Sorry if that’s not politically correct.”
Who cares about politically correct…how about just factually correct. K sweetie pop?
Mighty Righty
April 28th, 2011
3:39 pm
Can’t figure this out! This IS San Francisco. They don’t do anything unless it is to help some perceived to be “down trodden” group. Jay, call the Chronical, there has to be an explanaton.
Peadawg
April 28th, 2011
3:43 pm
“Who cares about politically correct…how about just factually correct. K sweetie pop?”
Pro-choice means it’s ok with you for a woman to have an abortion, correct? If I’m wrong let me know. So to the politically-correct-pansies out there it’s just called pro-choice. For those who couldn’t give a fat baby’s d*k about being politically correct, it’s called pro-abortion. What’s that saying…you can put lipstick on a pig and it’s still a pig?
Scooter (The Original)
April 28th, 2011
3:44 pm
Inside everybody at the political extremes, right and left, is a little dick-tater waiting to be born. I wonder how they feel about prince alberts.
jewcowboy
April 28th, 2011
3:44 pm
Speaking of Europeans. A friend of mine started dating a British guy, and when they were consummating the relationship she was introduced to her first “turtle”. She called me the next day freaking out…describing how he was deformed. In 38 years she had never seen anything like it.
TaxPayer
April 28th, 2011
3:47 pm
Where are all the cons. I do the topic did not get them all worked up into another pro-abstinence frenzy.
Jay
April 28th, 2011
3:48 pm
… and my vocabulary continues to expand
AmVet
April 28th, 2011
3:48 pm
Even more bizarre is that misnomer – pro-life.
Yeah, riiiight.
Quit the PC cr@p and call it what it is – anti-abortion or anti-choice.
stands for decibels
April 28th, 2011
3:50 pm
On the one hand they are pro abortion
I don’t know anyone who is “pro abortion.” that’s a bit like saying docs who do appendectomies are “pro-burst-appendix.”
Jefferson
April 28th, 2011
3:51 pm
You can’t solve social problems with legal remedies.
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
3:52 pm
Enter your comments here
Granny Godzilla
April 28th, 2011
3:53 pm
I know this may be news to some….but….we liberals do have a few whackadoodles to deal with too.
Sorry folks.
Jefferson
April 28th, 2011
3:53 pm
Give em’ a tax break and all the neocons will cut up their johnson.
TaxPayer
April 28th, 2011
3:54 pm
Do doctors round off the value of pi.
Jefferson
April 28th, 2011
3:55 pm
And claims it creates jobs….
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
3:55 pm
Well, this ought to bring Jews and Muslims to common cause!
jewcowboy
April 28th, 2011
3:56 pm
People who are for the death penalty are pro-death? When you say pro-abortion it implies one desires women to have abortions. One can be for a woman’s right to choose, yet be opposed to her actually having an abortion. Just like I’m for the right of free speech, but I am personally against people espousing idiotic things.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 28th, 2011
3:56 pm
Genital Integrity
TaxPayer
April 28th, 2011
3:59 pm
I still think Mitch McConnell looks like a turtle.
Peadawg
April 28th, 2011
4:01 pm
When you say pro-choice it implies one desires women to have abortions.
Fixed your typo, JCB, although yours works as well.
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
4:02 pm
Fellow MOTs…
A bris at 18? Now THAT ought to draw a crowd…the yentas would have a field day, eh? “,,,size isn’t everything, you know, there’s more to life than that, don’t ask me what!”
Don't Tread
April 28th, 2011
4:02 pm
“what on Earth are those people smoking?”
The same stuff they wanted to legalize last year.
But…what a bunch of control freaks! First, no toys in your Happy Meal, now we have this little gem. I wonder what’s next on the list.
TnGelding
April 28th, 2011
4:03 pm
Well, you’ve got to give them credit for brashness and originality. But they do have a point. I think it should remain a choice, but who’s? Do the health benfits outweigh the potential trauma? And the procedure is not without risks.
It would never hold up in court and makes you wonder what they’re thinking in trying to get something so controversial passed.
jewcowboy
April 28th, 2011
4:04 pm
TaxPayer,
“I still think Mitch McConnell looks like a turtle.”
Oh my! Now I’m going envision something totally different when I hear his name. Well, I guess not totally different. I always think “what a d!ck” when I read something he says.
Doggone/GA
April 28th, 2011
4:04 pm
“Do the health benfits outweigh the potential trauma?”
The trauma would probably be neglible if they did something elementary like use a PAIN killer
jewcowboy
April 28th, 2011
4:07 pm
Peadwag,
“Fixed your typo, JCB, although yours works as well.”
Thanks, but if I wanted your help in expressing my views I would have dialed the 19th century.
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
4:07 pm
“Another phrase I never thought I’d see: “genital integrity””
That’s gentile integrety, Ms Latella…
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
4:09 pm
Health benefits? Duh, hygiene would do the trick…I’ve always thought that argument sounded an awful lot like let’s go ahead and remove the tonsils and appendix since there are potential health risks involved…
19th Century
April 28th, 2011
4:09 pm
You rang, JCB?
jm
April 28th, 2011
4:12 pm
off topic (thankfully)
Are these worries justified? On the plus side, it is hard to think of any large country with as many inherent long-term advantages as America: what would China give to have a Silicon Valley? Or Germany an Ivy League? But it is also plain that the United States does indeed have long-term economic weaknesses—and ones that will take time to fix. The real worry for Americans should be that their politicians, not least their president, are doing so little to tackle these underlying problems. Three failings stand out.
What’s wrong with America’s economy?
Its politicians are failing to tackle the country’s real problems. Believe it or not, they could learn from Europe
http://www.economist.com/node/18620710
jewcowboy
April 28th, 2011
4:14 pm
19th Century,
“You rang, JCB?”
Nope…I’m part of the 21st century. I only email, im and text.
jewcowboy
April 28th, 2011
4:16 pm
So many things I could say…
http://tinyurl.com/6y9ak6m
jm
April 28th, 2011
4:16 pm
The first failing, of which Mr Obama in particular is guilty, is misstating the problem. He likes to frame America’s challenges in terms of “competitiveness”, particularly versus China. America’s prosperity, he argues, depends on “out-innovating, out-educating and out-building” China. This is mostly nonsense. America’s prosperity depends not on other countries’ productivity growth, but on its own (actually pretty fast) pace. Ideas spill over from one economy to another: when China innovates Americans benefit.
Of course, plenty more could be done to spur innovation. The system of corporate taxation is a mess and deters domestic investment. Mr Obama is right that America’s infrastructure is creaking (see article). But the solution there has as much to do with reforming Neanderthal funding systems as it does with the greater public spending he advocates. Too much of the “competitiveness” talk is a canard—one that justifies misguided policies, such as subsidies for green technology, and diverts attention from the country’s real to-do list.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 28th, 2011
4:17 pm
Too fkn funny, or sad, depending…
San Franciscans are OK with killing a child who survives an abortion, but by golly, don’t trim that “tissue mass” from the little guy’s crank!
Jefferson
April 28th, 2011
4:19 pm
If the oil companies have get most of the paychecks this month, the resteraunts will get less this month…same goes with infrastructure, you have to fund it.
jm
April 28th, 2011
4:22 pm
Don’t Mean To Be Rude, But The Economy Sucks
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-economy-sucks-2011-4#ixzz1KqqRuosG
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 28th, 2011
4:23 pm
Or in LBB’s case, that “tissue mass” happens to have been where his brain was kept….but he don’t miss it.
TaxPayer
April 28th, 2011
4:24 pm
Some things are sacred, dontcha know.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 28th, 2011
4:28 pm
But it is also plain that the United States does indeed have long-term economic weaknesses—and ones that will take time to fix.
You mean things like worrying more about where the president was born instead of trying to create jobs and expand our tax base for additional revenues? I agree. Until we can cut the jackassery out of political discourse and focus on important things, we’ll continue to have those weaknesses.
jewcowboy
April 28th, 2011
4:30 pm
jm,
Just an observation…I think the majority of The Economist’s sales come from airports where people try to impress strangers by purchasing it after their hand 1st reaches for US Magazine and then they feel guilty.
jm
April 28th, 2011
4:31 pm
real estate bubbles are the worst. we’re still in a world of hurt….. heaven help the USA (in the meantime I’m going elsewhere if I can)
The 88-Year, No-Interest Mortgage
In Their Battle to Save the Family Home, the Robinsons Make a Stunning Counter-Offer
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703367004576289562710398184.html?mod=WSJ_hps_RIGHTTopCarousel_4
Doggone/GA
April 28th, 2011
4:32 pm
jm – if you’re bored, there are hundred of people who lost everything they had last night who could use some help cleaning up
Mary Elizabeth
April 28th, 2011
4:33 pm
TnGelding @ 4:03
“And the procedure is not without risks.”
————————————————————–
I remember reading, about 20 years ago, that an Atlanta doctor had botched the procedure with a heated instrument (please no play on these words :- ) ) and the choice had to be made as to whether to turn the little fellow into a girl or not. The damage was so severe that the choice was made to turn the baby’s genitals into those of a female, but of course that could not change the basic DNA of the child, which was male. Sad, sad, sad.
Actually, another male baby, about the same time, had a similar misfortune, but enough remained that he was left male.
I don’t have an opinion on what is happening in S.F. – just thought I should share those true stories.
jm
April 28th, 2011
4:33 pm
jewcowboy –
That’s funny as hell. Definitely true in my wife’s case.
SoCo – yes, crap like that. And circumcisions. Everyone should be calling their congressman to do whatever it takes to fix the deficit or they should be fired. And clean up the corporate and income tax code and improve business training incentives. Oh, and drop some sort of economic bomb on China so they float their FX rate. Then things can take care of themselves. Absent that, we’re totally f’d.
Paul
April 28th, 2011
4:35 pm
Afternoon, Granny Godzilla
Liberals? No need to apologize. That lot occupies the realm I call “Lalaland Left” to distinguish them from the more balanced sort -
md
April 28th, 2011
4:35 pm
“I don’t know anyone who is “pro abortion.” that’s a bit like saying docs who do appendectomies are “pro-burst-appendix.””
Bad analogy……folks don’t choose to have a burst appendix……..but most do choose to participate in the action resulting in the need for an abortion.
jm
April 28th, 2011
4:35 pm
Doggone 4:32 – there are far more than that. I know this is surprising, but I currently have a job, meaning no dice. And irony of all ironies, I’ll be working all weekend.
Doggone/GA
April 28th, 2011
4:38 pm
“I know this is surprising, but I currently have a job”
Why are you so surprised that you have a job?
TaxPayer
April 28th, 2011
4:39 pm
but most do choose to participate in the action resulting in the need for an abortion.
There’s no need to be shy. You can say it. Sex! Sex, sex, sex, sex, sex! That’s what they chose to do that resulted in the need for a abortion.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 28th, 2011
4:40 pm
but most do choose to participate in the action resulting in the need for an abortion.
Sometimes the person chooses, and sometimes it’s the hormones that makes the choice for us.
jm: Oh, and drop some sort of economic bomb on China so they float their FX rate.
Get Bush II and his boys, Reagan’s old boys, or Carter’s old crew for that job. Each set laid some serious financial bombs that blew up when it was time for them to leave office. I don’t think Obama’s crew has proven themselves worthy of such a job yet.
AmVet
April 28th, 2011
4:40 pm
I do love how stories like this one send the faithful’s poutrage meters off the scale.
70 today and still yummy…
http://tinyurl.com/6cub9dp
jm
April 28th, 2011
4:42 pm
Doggone 4:38 – your interpretation is backwards (and you probably know it). Given the time I blow on this thing, I wouldn’t normally associate anyone on here as much as I am as being employed.
When I’m actually busy, the last place I’ll be is on this thing.
pat
April 28th, 2011
4:43 pm
They should start selling foreskin wallets….
Paul
April 28th, 2011
4:43 pm
AmVet
Now that’s a goddess – (and one reason one of my fav movies is Grumpier Old Men).
Bosch can have Olympia Snowe and what’s her name.
kayaker 71
April 28th, 2011
4:44 pm
A plastic surgeon friend of mine states that the only tissue compatible and functional for repairing eyelid skin is the male foreskin. Seriously. But the only drawback is that if you wink too many times in a row, you can give yourself a wink job, the end result of which might be somewhat embarrassing in a crowd.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 28th, 2011
4:44 pm
Is this what they mean by “keeping it wrapped?” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1gmbOAAXtA&feature=related
Choices are great. Rape is never a choice
Doggone/GA
April 28th, 2011
4:48 pm
“Choices are great. Rape is never a choice”
Anytime you here someone say “she got what she asked for” – you just met someone who thinks it is
jm
April 28th, 2011
4:50 pm
ug. there are absolutely no good answers to this mess. hard times ahead.
if managed well, they’ll only last a decade. If DC screws up, it could last 30 years or more.
jm
April 28th, 2011
4:55 pm
I now know why Bowles and Simpson went apesh-t over the budget deal. The next 2 years’ (2011 and 2012) deficits will be our undoing. I we’d let tax rates go up across the board, and put in place some spending cuts, we’d be on a path to growth sometime down the road.
These 2 years have instead put us strongly on the road to ruin.
jm
April 28th, 2011
4:57 pm
My new name for our POTUS (in title only): “Pass the Buck Obama”
jm
April 28th, 2011
4:58 pm
Obama is the anti-Clinton. Faithful to his wife and a good father. And absolutely no understanding of the economy and no fiscal discipline.
So much for me ever being a Democrat again…..
Patriotson
April 28th, 2011
5:00 pm
To skin or not to skin that is the question. If these idiots can pass this then they can ban tongue piercing; ear rings; public kissing; require berkas; They are nothing but cheese heads.
TaxPayer
April 28th, 2011
5:01 pm
So much for me ever being a Democrat again…..
It’s a loss the Dems will just have to accept.
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
5:02 pm
Is Obama a Muslim…well, if he’s not circumcised…can’t wait for Donald to demand proof there…
jm
April 28th, 2011
5:02 pm
TaxPayer 5:01 – yep. Me and several 10’s of millions of independents….. sux for your party.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 28th, 2011
5:03 pm
josef….is he demanding the long form?
Paul
April 28th, 2011
5:03 pm
josef nix
Just had to go there, didn’t ya?
TaxPayer
April 28th, 2011
5:04 pm
Me and several 10’s of millions of independents….. sux for your party.
Uh huh. So, who’s the Independent’s presidential candidate.
Pennsylvanian
April 28th, 2011
5:06 pm
“So, who’s the Independent’s presidential candidate.”
ABO
Anyone But Obama
md
April 28th, 2011
5:06 pm
“Sometimes the person chooses, and sometimes it’s the hormones that makes the choice for us. ”
Excuses are choices too………..
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
5:08 pm
Good fight, Paul…
We have a right to full disclosure…
md
April 28th, 2011
5:09 pm
“There’s no need to be shy. You can say it. Sex! Sex, sex, sex, sex, sex! That’s what they chose to do that resulted in the need for a abortion.”
If you are going to jump on me for a bit of literary play, at least use proper english……..
John Birch
April 28th, 2011
5:11 pm
Thanks Jay for finally giving us a topic where DDR and Granny can make intelligent, informed comments.
jm
April 28th, 2011
5:13 pm
John Birch 5:11
pogo
April 28th, 2011
5:15 pm
I think the Jews have it right on this.
And though I disagree with Cynthia Tucker on everything she believes in, her post about the trajedy that happened yesterday in multiple Southern States deserves recognition. She posted it without one iota of politics being involved. We are in a worldwide cycle of destruction which is created both by man and his politics, his arrogance and his stupidity and by mother nature. Mother nature does what it wants regardless of what man does even though man is naieve enough to think that he can control it through his politics, his planning and his brilliance. That is how arrogant we have become as a species. I got a weird feeling that mother nature is going to show us who is really in control in the coming months.
jm
April 28th, 2011
5:16 pm
I think I see the double dipper comin….
TaxPayer
April 28th, 2011
5:21 pm
Okay, Vanna md. My finger did not press the “n” hard enough to give you your much needed consonant for $100.
josef nix
April 28th, 2011
5:25 pm
Pogo
“I think the Jews have it right on this.”
So, it’s a relgious thing? You belong to the mohel’s union…?
Paul
April 28th, 2011
5:36 pm
looks like this thread had ‘petered’ out -
Dusty
April 28th, 2011
5:38 pm
All I got to say is this: too bad you have forgotten what your mother told you was decent to talk about in public. You are a disgrace. Pipsqueeks, perverts and naughty nuts following Bookman the bonehead. Grow up!!
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
5:38 pm
It’s a funny story, until you start to consider why it is a story at all. I have recently said several times that JFK would now days be considered far right with his speeches urging citizens to depend less on the government and his policies to lower taxes to promote growth.
The policies that most liberals on here openly promote would have been ” funny stories” during the 60s. Marriage between two men? Now that’s a knee slapper, or at least it was. Now it’s a cause celeb that inspires riots. The government dictating the diets of our children?
I’m reading 1984. It’s boring. It was written to shock. It’s nothing. It’s everyday life in the US. Sure many parts are exaggerated, at least for now, but like this silly little story, it is all about control.
The health bill is all about the government having the right to control every aspect of our lives and the excuse is that since the government is now responsible for our health, they are responsible for the way we live our lives.
Liberalism doesn’t stop. Think up a bunch of crazy ideas, They are pushed, politicians see a way to gain power and control and they are passed. So do liberals stop? No. So the ideas get crazier and crazier.
And it is all hidden under the guise of justice or doing what is right.
Doesn’t it occur to anyone that the more these crazy ideas are accepted, the more we see the demise of our country and our own well being?
AmVet
April 28th, 2011
5:43 pm
http://www.theonion.com/articles/trump-unable-to-produce-certificate-proving-hes-no,20250/
Paul
April 28th, 2011
5:43 pm
Dusty
“All I got to say is this: too bad you have forgotten what your mother told you was decent to talk about in public. You are a disgrace. Pipsqueeks, perverts and naughty nuts following Bookman the bonehead. Grow up!!”
And you’re the one calling Jay a ‘bone’head?!!?
LOLOLOLOL!
Dusty, you’re ok!
Doggone/GA
April 28th, 2011
5:43 pm
“So the ideas get crazier and crazier”
I think you’ll find there’s a fundamental disagreement on what constitutes crazy ideas
poison pen
April 28th, 2011
5:46 pm
Jay, they want put an end to it because it’s not covered under Obamacare. Pun…Pun
Billybob
April 28th, 2011
5:47 pm
these people sure seem worked up about this issue, maybe they should just take a load off……it’s done paul
poison pen
April 28th, 2011
5:48 pm
April 28th, 2011
5:43 pm
Dusty
“All I got to say is this: too bad you have forgotten what your mother told you was decent to talk about in public. You are a disgrace. Pipsqueeks, perverts and naughty nuts following Bookman the bonehead. Grow up!!”
And you’re the one calling Jay a ‘bone’head?!!?
LOLOLOLOL!
Dusty, you’re ok!
This made me laugh out loud. Bonehead, hahahahahahahaha
Good little liberal
April 28th, 2011
5:48 pm
Doggone/GA
The point is that ideas that were considered crazy a few years ago are now worth fighting for. Since birth, have you always thought that gay marriage was an idea worth fighting for?
I don’t know how old you are, but I would guess that you grew up in the 60s, maybe 70s. BAck then, when you saw two gay men together, was your first thought: wouldn’t it be great of those two guys could be married?
Maybe it’s a little deep, but reading 1984 tends to make one question a lot of things. I suppose that is why it is no more required reading.
Dusty
April 28th, 2011
5:49 pm
Paul, have a pleasant Texas evening…
Bruno
April 28th, 2011
5:50 pm
Lowell George would be proud of your efforts today, Jay:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns9jGWiF8d0
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 28th, 2011
5:52 pm
JFK to GLL: Bull crap. Tell the rich its time they do something for this country. At least a some millionaires agree.
JFbelieveded in using government spending, not tax cuts, as the means to put dollars in people’s hands.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 28th, 2011
5:52 pm
JKF believed….typo fixed