Petraeus to lead CIA; Panetta moves to Pentagon
Leon Panetta, a longtime congressman, former chief of staff to President Clinton and now director of the CIA, will be nominated to replace Robert Gates as secretary of defense, according to the Associated Press.
Gen. David Petraeus, now leading the NATO effort in Afghanistan, will reportedly replace Panetta at the CIA. That’s an interesting move on several counts, confirming that Petraeus intends to follow the Colin Powell/George Marshall model and be a major policy player in Washington for years to come, while staying clear of electoral politics.
The low-key Gates, initially appointed by President Bush to replace the discredited and more flamboyant Donald Rumsfeld, has been the right man in the right place for a long time now. Nobody’s irreplaceable, and Panetta brings his own strengths and credentials to the job. But it’s hard to conceive of someone doing a better job than Gates did during a particularly challenging time in the Pentagon.
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Finn McCool
April 27th, 2011
8:20 am
Panetta??
Finn McCool
April 27th, 2011
8:22 am
I just hope Panetta knows what we think he knows that what he really should know and we also know that he knows that….
Peadawg
April 27th, 2011
8:24 am
Off topic but interesting considering out current spending problem:
Obama is approving to send $25 million to “non-lethal” Libya rebels. And we’re supposed to believe him when he says he wants to cut spending? What a fcking joke.
stands for decibels
April 27th, 2011
8:25 am
Panetta?
Thanks, it looks delicious!
AmVet - A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt
April 27th, 2011
8:26 am
Finn, let’s hope he’s not another Einsteen, like this one was…
“We know there are known knowns: there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns: that is to say we know there are things we know we don’t know. But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know.” —Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Defense Department briefing, Fe. 12, 2002
Finn McCool
April 27th, 2011
8:26 am
The one real known unknown: what that thing is on Trump’s head.
PJ
April 27th, 2011
8:27 am
Leon Panetta has some resume.
Finn McCool
April 27th, 2011
8:28 am
But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know.”
It just doesn’t get any better than that. That’s like a line right outta Faulkner.
TaxPayer
April 27th, 2011
8:28 am
There’s clearly something going on behind the scenes. Maybe a showdown soon on the DoD budget and how to make bigger cuts. I can only hope.
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
8:29 am
Finn –
– sometimes you take the SecDef you have rahter than the SecDef you want
Panetta as Chief of Staff – oh, heck yeah.
Panetta as Head of CIA – mmmm, well, okay
Panetta as SecDef – well, at least he served: (from Wiki) In 1964, he joined the United States Army as a Second Lieutenant. There he received the Army Commendation Medal, and was discharged in 1966 as a First Lieutenant … but, really, I stand with my first reaction … WTF??!!
PJ
April 27th, 2011
8:29 am
AmVet – No wonder we attacked a country who do not attack. All these unknowns.
DebbieDoRight
April 27th, 2011
8:30 am
Finn: The one real known unknown: what that thing is on Trump’s head.
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
8:30 am
Finn and AmVet – I don’t know what it says about me, but I totally got that quote when Rummy said that – felt bad for him that he got so much stick for it.
jm
April 27th, 2011
8:31 am
Jay 6:25pm (yesterday) agreed.
As far as Panetta / Petraeus. Um, who’s going to be running Afghanistan now?
Finn McCool
April 27th, 2011
8:31 am
from Wiki:
He is credited with developing the budget package that would eventually result in the balanced budget of 1998.
Ahha. He is going to gut the military! Hooooray!
AmVet - A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt
April 27th, 2011
8:32 am
PJ, et al.
Rumsfeld was the only SecDef in modern American history to make McNamara look good.
Likewise, Cheney was the only VP in modern American history to make Spriro Agnew look good…
Now, cue up the Bushbots with their brilliant observations that those guys are no longer in power.
For supposed elephants, the neo-cons have the memories of tabby cats…
Part and parcel of the (W)orst ever…
Jay
April 27th, 2011
8:33 am
I too thought that “unknowns” riff was one of Rummy’s better moments.
jm
April 27th, 2011
8:33 am
“But it’s hard to conceive of someone doing a better job than Gates did during a particularly challenging time in the Pentagon.”
Yeah, he’s about as good as they come. One wishes for his kind of leadership and management out of the White House and Congress….
PJ
April 27th, 2011
8:34 am
TaxPayer @8:28 am – Interesting observation.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 27th, 2011
8:34 am
I don’t know about this pick. Since I shave my head, I won’t be pulling my hair out, but I’ll probably scratch a crater or two in my scalp trying to figure this one out. Hopefully, he’ll end up better at Sec of Def than Rumsfeld. I think Gates has been the best that I can recall in my lifetime.
Obama is approving to send $25 million to “non-lethal” Libya rebels. And we’re supposed to believe him when he says he wants to cut spending? What a fcking joke.
Yep, and McCain (GOP) was over there begging Obama to do more. And the GOP wants to cut spending more than Obama. You’re a fool if you believe either party.
Finn McCool
April 27th, 2011
8:35 am
Let’s face facts, folks. We can whip the rest of the world’s countries with just a handful of military divisions.
And we sure as heck don’t need soldiers in Italy watching the pasta trees and in Germany watching the knockwurst and streudel trees.
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
8:35 am
“For supposed elephants, the neo-cons have the memories of tabby cats…”
hey! as the former mom to the world’s coolest tabby, could you please not malign them thusly??!!
Granny Godzilla
April 27th, 2011
8:37 am
Best wishes gentlemen.
May you serve America wisely and faithfully.
kayaker 71
April 27th, 2011
8:37 am
Patraeus will have a job for years to come, no matter who is in the WH. Bozo seems to be good, however, in rat holing his competition. First Hillary to SOS, now Patraeus to CIA. Patraeus will someday make a good president, sooner rather than later.
AmVet - A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt
April 27th, 2011
8:38 am
ex-pat,
It was just highly illustrative of the gang that not only couldn’t shoot straight, they seldom could talk straight.
A pack of walking malapropisms, BS and broken promises…
I have one too. An awesome beast. But I’m pretty certain that she has a very small cerebral cortex…
Jay
April 27th, 2011
8:39 am
Finn, the real job of a SecDef isn’t to win battles overseas. It’s to win battles in Washington.
Thus a lot of our problems.
PJ
April 27th, 2011
8:39 am
Rumsfeld was so bad even Bush had to get rid of him. Then he has the nerve to go on a book tour and hawk his unknowns all over again and act as if he had nothing to do with anything that went wrong.
larry
April 27th, 2011
8:39 am
But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know.”
Reminds me of another famous saying……………..involving someone who is no longer in power either
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_N1OjGhIFc
Peadawg
April 27th, 2011
8:40 am
” You’re a fool if you believe either party.”
Good point, SC.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
8:40 am
Come on Jay….there is nothing in your post that is slamming the GOP…..amazing! Great work.
Doggone/GA
April 27th, 2011
8:40 am
“Let’s face facts, folks. We can whip the rest of the world’s countries with just a handful of military divisions”
Sure, that’s why we’re still in both Afghanistan and Iraq after 10 years. We helped win a WORLD WAR in less than half that time.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 27th, 2011
8:42 am
Finn
We need soldiers in Germany. When I have family stationed there, I have access to the good German beer.
TnGelding
April 27th, 2011
8:42 am
Good grief! Is available talent that scarce? We need new blood and new thinking. What we’re doing ain’t working, folks.
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
8:42 am
“But I’m pretty certain that she has a very small cerebral cortex…”
if they only had opposable thumbs, cats would rule the world.
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
8:43 am
Jay – “Finn, the real job of a SecDef isn’t to win battles overseas. It’s to win battles in Washington.”
damn. well said!
Jay
April 27th, 2011
8:43 am
Bad as Rumsfeld was, and as self-deluded as he could sometimes be, I’d still say that the single worst appointment made by the Bush administration was Paul Brenner to head the Iraq reconstruction. Even worse than Brownie at FEMA.
Finn McCool
April 27th, 2011
8:43 am
I’m not against him in that role – I’m sure Obama had a good reason to choose him. I just hope he starts paring down the DoD – cutting bases, etc..
stands for decibels
April 27th, 2011
8:44 am
This pair of moves doesn’t seem all that WTFish to me; it seems in line with Obama’s no-drama approach to such appointments.
Only real question now is, how can the GOP make this out to be the worst thing since the heartbreak of psoriasis? (or they might surprise me and say, collectively, “yeah, works for us…”)
carlosgvv
April 27th, 2011
8:44 am
USinUK
I feel the same way about Panetta. There is something about him that gives off vibes suggesting a weak bleeding heart liberal. I have visions of him running around with a piece of paper in his hand yelling “peace in our time”.
TnGelding
April 27th, 2011
8:44 am
Somebody tell the prez we don’t have 25 cents.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
8:45 am
Here we go….Jay talking about W and his bad appointments….blame bush blame bush blame bush blah blah blah.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 27th, 2011
8:45 am
Even worse than Brownie at FEMA.
I consider Roseanne Barr’s national anthem better than that appointment. Damn, that’s bad……
ty webb
April 27th, 2011
8:45 am
Gates did a great Job, and is one of the only guys in Washington held in high regard by both “sides”.
Road Scholar
April 27th, 2011
8:46 am
Peadawg: Good morning! Yes they want to cut the budget, but didn’t the Repubs just approve an increase to the defense budget? With all the talk about Medicare, not one penny has been cut from defense! We are alledgedly reducing troops in Iraq and Afganastan this year, have a minimum effot in Lybia, and now the saber rattling people want something done with Syria! Didn’t Gates offer/reccomend a cut in the military budget?
Before I end, Mister Gates has been a breath of fresh air. Sir, thank you for your service and leadership. Presidential candidate?
TnGelding
April 27th, 2011
8:46 am
Brenner was given too much power for an impossible task. Bush should have been making those decisions.
Jay
April 27th, 2011
8:47 am
Sorry UGA. You no doubt want to talk about the MARTA incident again, right?
Here, maybe I can help:
http://www.wikihow.com/Start-a-Blog
Redneck Convert (R---and proud of it)
April 27th, 2011
8:48 am
The one real known unknown: what that thing is on Trump’s head.
Well, if you had of been reading my stuff you’d know. It’s a fox squirrel. And if you don’t know what a fox squirrel is ask Sister Dusty. She’s got one that keeps eating the bird seed she puts out.
All I got to say is it’s going to be awful hard for Gen. Petraeus to run for President with all the stuff to take care of at CIA, and there goes the last hope to get rid of Obama in 2012. The rest of the canadates we got couldn’t win a election for class president in kindergarten. Heck, I’m not sure I could vote for one of them. Unless it’s Ron Paul. Now there’s a man that don’t like Those People and Those Other People and wants to cut out all the welfare. If he wasn’t such a nut case he’d take the country by storm. It’s just a shame he was born a little touched in the head.
Have a good Wednesday everybody.
TnGelding
April 27th, 2011
8:48 am
Brownie got a bad rap. He didn’t get the support he was promised.
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
8:48 am
well played, sir!
Peadawg
April 27th, 2011
8:49 am
Jay @ 8:47
BAZINGA!!!!!
AmVet - A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt
April 27th, 2011
8:49 am
Today’s lesson from the Republican Dictionary of Made Up Definitions.
Slamming/bashing – providing factual information.
Blaming – holding accountable (see slamming/bashing)
Punishing – having the super-rich and corporations paying taxes.
Evil – used whenever an accurate adjective eludes the writer.
Conservative – not the foggiest notion.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
8:49 am
Jay…..great job of changing the subject. Who brought up Marta. You must have been looking day and night for that article. Nice job joker.
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
8:49 am
carlos – I’ve met the guy – he’s a tougher cookie than you would think
nah – I just like my SecDef’s to have a little more than 2 years experience in the military. color me silly.
stands for decibels
April 27th, 2011
8:50 am
McCain (GOP) was over there begging Obama to do more.
I stand with Peadawg. Yea, verily, this eightpence-per-capita spending measure is an outrage.
jm
April 27th, 2011
8:50 am
Jay 8:47
RE: New Afghanistan General – Lieutenant General John Allen would take over from Gen. Petraeus, the Associated Press reported
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/220ed636-70c5-11e0-9b1d-00144feabdc0.html?ftcamp=rss#axzz1KjA3BfsG
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
8:50 am
USin…..kind of like you would think the President would actually need some political or business experience???
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
8:52 am
Jay – 8:43 – agree with your assessment of Bremer – sweet jeebus, bringing in all those Heritage Foundation flunkies to oversee rebuilding – and we wonder how billions of dollars has gone missing …
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
8:52 am
UGA – Um, hate to tell you this, but the current president has both
Peadawg
April 27th, 2011
8:52 am
“McCain (GOP) was over there begging Obama to do more.”
Seems like Obama is listening a little with this $25 million in aide. Which is sad…
jm
April 27th, 2011
8:52 am
RE John Allen
http://www.centcom.mil/en/about-centcom/leadership/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_R._Allen
I hope he can wrap this sh-t up successfully and reasonably swiftly…..
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
8:54 am
USin….OH you are right being a community organizer means you are qualified to be commander and cheif. My bad.
jm
April 27th, 2011
8:54 am
Amazing Wiki has already been updated with the Afghan info…. crowdsourcing is amazing.
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
8:55 am
UGA – served in his state leg as well as in Congress
and his work experience is more than a community organizer, regardless of what FOX and the voices in your head tell you.
jm
April 27th, 2011
8:56 am
A Marine Corps guy is probably a good fit for Afghanistan….
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 27th, 2011
8:56 am
Unsportsmanlike conduct @ 8:47!
Illegal use of the Wiki
Penalty will be assessed on the kickoff.
AmVet - A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt
April 27th, 2011
8:56 am
The previous CiC had qualifications!
Almost all of them bad. A litany of failures and screw ups.
Throw in being a mental lightweight – by presidential standards – and voila!
Cons apparently are almost completely incapable of accurately assessing candidates for high office…
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
8:57 am
USin….I know I know…..
President, United States of America, 2009-present
Senator, United States Senate, 2005-2008
Keynote Speaker, Democratic National Convention, 2004
Senator, Illinois State Senate, 1996-2004
It is still hilarious to hear the lefty’s talk about experience levels from the GOP. Glass houses.
Paul
April 27th, 2011
8:58 am
Thanks to SecDef Gates. Right man at the right time, made the tough calls (Middle East, fired the AF Chief of Staff and Sec of AF, pushed drones as a mainstay in our inventory, initiated Def cuts, moved to whack away at the huge Pentagon bureaucracy) and he had a good knowledge of what was on in the world from his time as CIA director.
Panetta’s from CIA, let’s hope he meets the bar where Gates placed it.
AmVet – Jay
“I too thought that “unknowns” riff was one of Rummy’s better moments.”
That riff is straight out of the coursework for senior officer professional education. Rumsfeld gave it nearly verbatim. It’s taught as a means of introducing caution into the operational planning process (in other words ‘you don’t know everything about the enemy you’d like to think you know and you’d better understand there’s a whole lot you don’t know… if you don’t understand that, you could lose).
MountainMan
April 27th, 2011
8:58 am
There shouldn’t be enough fluff in the DOD budget that you can off and fight a war in Libya without having to get an appropriation fot it.
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
8:59 am
UGA – “It is still hilarious to hear the lefty’s talk about experience levels from the GOP.”
dude, not only do you have voices shreiking in your head, you seem to have reading comprehension difficulties, as well.
who here criticized a GOPper for experience?
(or do Leon Panetta suddenly become a Republican??!!)
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
9:00 am
do should be did
Donovan
April 27th, 2011
9:00 am
It was a joke to put a political hack and someone without any military experience into the job of CIA director in the first place. To further the idea of putting Panetta into the job of Sec. of Def. is another example of liberal disconnect. In these times of terrorism against an uncivilized, but clever Islamic enemy, we don’t need political hacks running our security apparatus. The CIA will gain in operational strength with this proposed move, but the DOD will become a rubber stamp for an inept community organizer trying to figure out foreign policy. Just look at the Libyian mess. Just look back at the Iranian hostage rescue failure of the Carter administration. I would have to think that all of the liberals who blog this site and all of the liberals who voted for their Hope & Change president would agree with me. You don’t appoint hacks to do a warrior’s job.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 27th, 2011
9:01 am
Guess what y’all.
Scout’s about to orgasm himself to death. CNN just announced that Obama will release his long form birth certificate.
TaxPayer
April 27th, 2011
9:02 am
I’m glad Jay hasn’t shown me the door in such brash terms.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 27th, 2011
9:02 am
It’s going to be fun to see the right squirm on the “experience” issue if they get someone like Trump against someone with 4 years experience as President after repeatedly playing the “experience” card in an “unsportspersonlike” manner
[Kudos to SoCo but have to correct to gender neutral — especially as there are now more women holding advance degrees and I need to suck up to our soon to be new overlords. Hail to Granny USinUK and DDR!
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AmVet
April 27th, 2011
9:02 am
ex-pat, Panetta left the dark side back when Tricky Dick was working on his hit lists…
Panetta switched to the Democratic Party in 1971, because he thought that the Republican Party was moving away from the political center.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:03 am
USin….you said…”nah – I just like my SecDef’s to have a little more than 2 years experience in the military. color me silly.”
TaxPayer
April 27th, 2011
9:03 am
CNN just announced that Obama will release his long form birth certificate.
NO WAY, YOU SAY! HE CAN”T DO THAT! WHY CAN’T I STOP YELLING!
jm
April 27th, 2011
9:03 am
on and off topic. this covers gates, the budget deficit, and is good news for Savannah (re Gulfstream)
General Dynamics Net Rises 3.5% on Gulfstream Unit Profits (1)
By Gopal Ratnam
April 27 (Bloomberg) — General Dynamics Corp., the maker of Abrams battle tanks and Gulfstream jets, said first-quarter profit rose 3.5 percent aided by higher margins at the business- jet unit.
Net income increased to $618 million, or $1.64 a share, from $597 million, or $1.53 a share, a year earlier, the Falls Church, Virginia-based company said today in a statement. The average of 20 analysts surveyed by Bloomberg was for $1.61 a share. Sales gained less than 1 percent to $7.8 billion.
General Dynamics’s defense business was dealt a setback after Defense Secretary Robert Gates proposed in January to cancel the company’s Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle it was building for the Marine Corps. The loss may be offset with Gates’s proposal to upgrade Abrams tanks and the Army’s Stryker vehicles, both made by the company.
With U.S. defense spending coming under pressure Chief Executive Officer Jay Johnson has said the Gulfstream unit will remain the company’s “growth engine.”
General Dynamics, which also makes Virginia-class nuclear submarines, in January forecast full-year profit of $7 to $7.10 a share. Analysts’ average estimate is for profit of $7.12 a share on sales of $33.8 billion.
General Dynamics gained 50 cents to $72.64 yesterday in New York Stock Exchange composite trading. The shares gained 2.4 percent this year before today. The Standard and Poor’s Supercomposite Aerospace & Defense Index has gained 10.3 percent in the same period.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:04 am
Keep up….scared of Trump already eh? Nice!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 27th, 2011
9:04 am
New conspiracy theory in 3…2….1
Conspiracy Theorist
April 27th, 2011
9:04 am
SoCo 9:01 – its not real
TnGelding
April 27th, 2011
9:04 am
Who’s fighting a war in Libya?
jm
April 27th, 2011
9:05 am
RE Birth Certificate – Sad statement about the status of politics in america. But glad the fiasco is over, I hope.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 27th, 2011
9:06 am
“unsportspersonlike” manner
jm
April 27th, 2011
9:06 am
Keep – your double 9:04’s are good work, I’m impressed.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:07 am
jm…..I agree.
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
9:07 am
UGA – 9:03 – you really CAN’T read, can you – or have you not bothered to read what today’s topic is.
jm
April 27th, 2011
9:08 am
Rep Eric Cantor (R-VA) is wearing thin…..
Peadawg
April 27th, 2011
9:08 am
“CNN just announced that Obama will release his long form birth certificate.”
Aw so sad….
Now can we move on?
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
9:08 am
Donovan – scroll back a page – Panetta DOES have military experience.
PJ
April 27th, 2011
9:08 am
Long form birth certicate is on the White House Web Site. Just released.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:09 am
I simply copied and pasted what you said…..do you have a problem with your own words. Have you ever been checked for schizophrenia?
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
9:09 am
AmVet – 9:02 – criminey. if he thought that in the 70s, god only KNOWS what he thinks about them today
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:09 am
Peadawg….I think we all (both left and right) hope so.
BADA BING
April 27th, 2011
9:10 am
Peadog…..Bazinga? Are you a closet nerd?
jm
April 27th, 2011
9:10 am
Not unbiased. But the liberals here will yuk this up…
Why Obama Will Get Second Term in White House: Ralph Nader (1)
http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=aujycMJqgyt0
But don’t look at anything else while you’re at the Bloomberg site. You might learn something.
Jay
April 27th, 2011
9:10 am
Gates had also served just a two-year stint as an Air Force officer.
Peadawg
April 27th, 2011
9:10 am
“Peadawg….I think we all (both left and right) hope so.”
If we do move on…Cynthia may have to find another job. 3 out of last 8 articles have been about “birthers”.
getalife
April 27th, 2011
9:11 am
Gates did a good job and should be honored for his service.
Wonder who will take Hilary’s place?
bithers owe the President an apology today.
trump will drop out.
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
9:11 am
sweet jeebus. I know I’m getting sucked in the spiraling vortex of stupid that is UGA, but here goes:
UGA, you said “It is still hilarious to hear the lefty’s talk about experience levels from the GOP.”
unless Leon Panetta is a secret GOPper, then my comment that you refer to doesn’t apply.
now, go play in the sandbox (and try not to eat any this time – that’s not Ferrero Rocher that the cats leave behind)
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:11 am
Peadawg….would that be a bad thing?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 27th, 2011
9:12 am
jm.. you can check with Jay but I assure you that only one of the 9;04s is mine. You just can’t give credit for an accurate prediction.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:12 am
While at Indiana University, Gates was recruited by the Central Intelligence Agency and joined the agency in 1966.[15] On January 4, 1967, he was commissioned as a second lieutenant in the United States Air Force.[14][15] From 1967 to 1969, he was assigned to the Strategic Air Command as an intelligence officer which included a stint at Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri, where he delivered intelligence briefings to Intercontinental Ballistic Missile crews.[16] After fulfilling his military obligation, he rejoined the CIA.
Gates left the CIA in 1974 to serve on the staff of the National Security Council. He returned to the CIA in late 1979, serving briefly as the director of the Strategic Evaluation Center, Office of Strategic Research. He was named the Director of the DCI/DDCI Executive Staff in 1981, Deputy Director for Intelligence in 1982, and Deputy Director of Central Intelligence from April 18, 1986 to March 20, 1989.
stands for decibels
April 27th, 2011
9:12 am
UnU, a quick scan of the wiki list of DoD Secretaries, looks like Panetta’s coupla years in the service aren’t exactly unprecedented–Carlucci and Aspin had similarly short stints, & Cohen & Cheney had none.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:13 am
There goes USin again….name calling “stupid”….I WIN…..god you make it to easy!! haha keep up the good work.
Peadawg
April 27th, 2011
9:13 am
“Peadog…..Bazinga? Are you a closet nerd?”
Dude, I’m a web developer. Nerd all the way!!!
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
9:13 am
dB – I didn’t realize that about Cohen – I always thought he rocked. Cheney – well – where’s Bosch when you need him …
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
9:15 am
yes, UGA, you’re a winner. just like Charlie Sheen. now, go play in the freeway.
Southern Comfort substituting for Bosch
April 27th, 2011
9:15 am
USinner
Cheney =
jm
April 27th, 2011
9:15 am
Keep 9:12 – I’m just messing with you. I was the other 9:04.
Finn McCool
April 27th, 2011
9:15 am
Democrats want to end tax subsidies for oil companies, and they’ve gotten a lift from Boehner’s ad hoc agreement with them in that ABC News interview.
http://www.slate.com/id/2292226/
I bet if we put threaten their tax subsidies, they will lower prices really fast. Once they lose those subsidies I would think it would be difficult for them to get them back.
Mighty Righty
April 27th, 2011
9:15 am
Finn and Debbie–That thing on trumps head? How about those things that stick out of the sides of Obama’s head. Looks like the Flying Nun’s hat.
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
9:16 am
SoCo – thanks for stepping in !
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 27th, 2011
9:16 am
LOL @ the vortex comment…
There’s been more vortexes on this blog lately than there have been in the Midwest and South.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 27th, 2011
9:17 am
Democrats hated Petraeus before they loved him. It just depends on which administration he was serving under.
As much as I respect Petraeus, somehow he was more effective Under our President Bush (Iraq surge) than under the Idiot Messiah (Afghanistan debacle).
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:17 am
USin….childish dude….simply childish. I would expect no less.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 27th, 2011
9:17 am
USinner
No problem. I don’t think Bosch would mind me doing that for him.
larry
April 27th, 2011
9:17 am
I can hear these birther people now………
Its fake
What took him so long
I bet they had to wait for Kenya to release it
in 3 ……..2……………..1………….
getalife
April 27th, 2011
9:19 am
Where are the apologies to the President birthers?
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:19 am
Larry….actually no. I am firmly against Obama, however if he has shown his birth certificate and it is authenticated then I am fine with it……discussion over.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:20 am
Getalife…..apologies….sorry dude this is not an Al Sharpton forum….No need to apologize for simply asking a question.
Conspiracy Theorist
April 27th, 2011
9:20 am
larry, faking a birth certificate is a difficult manufacturing and legal process….
md
April 27th, 2011
9:20 am
“But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know.””
Made perfect sense…….especially if one looks at it from the perspective of a spook…….
The spooks aren’t even sure if they know what they think they know……….
Double, triple, quadruple agents?? Must be a neat game to try and figure out.
ByteMe
April 27th, 2011
9:20 am
There’s a web site where you can create notarized long-form birth certificates for Hawaii, doncha know.
Mighty Righty
April 27th, 2011
9:21 am
Typical liberals. Think increasing oil company costs will bring the price of gasoline down! Where do these people come from?
AmVet
April 27th, 2011
9:21 am
The prez can’t do anything about his ears.
But for Mr. “Look at How Filthy Rich I Am!!” to *choose* to wear that dead rat on his head is beyond absurd.
But not atypical for pompous, self-absorbed asses, I guess…
getalife
April 27th, 2011
9:21 am
ug,
Apologize now birther.
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
9:21 am
“childish dude….simply childish”
says mr. “I win!!!”
now, go play – the grown-ups are talking.
oy.
stands for decibels
April 27th, 2011
9:22 am
I didn’t realize that about Cohen – I always thought he rocked.
UnU, he’s also a UU, if such things interest you.
ByteMe
April 27th, 2011
9:22 am
Typical liberals. Think increasing oil company costs will bring the price of gasoline down!
You’re right, obviously $4 billion in subsidies isn’t working. Let’s double-down on stupid and increase it.
jm
April 27th, 2011
9:22 am
Did Walker ever do this? No…..
http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2011/04/26/emory-students-arrested-for-protest-of-worker-treatment-students-plan-vigil-tonight/
Peadawg
April 27th, 2011
9:22 am
“The prez can’t do anything about his ears.”
Actually, he could get them pinned back. Kurt Busch (a NASCAR driver) did it a few years ago.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:23 am
Did anyone see the lady (if you want to call her that) from Ohio that was arrested for sending her kids to the wrong school district?
She showed up with her “NAACP” lawyer….what a joke.
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
9:23 am
Peadawg – dammit, man … you just made me picture a NASCAR driver wearing his helmet propped up on his ears
AmVet
April 27th, 2011
9:23 am
“..discussion over.”
WRONG!
The clueless fools and hyper-hateful cons are gonna have to endure being the butt of this joke, just like all the many others.
Good times in the GOP asylum…
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
9:24 am
dB – yet another reason to like him.
John Birch
April 27th, 2011
9:24 am
With PanHead as SecDef we can expect the current administration to bomb a lot more sovereign nations that did not attack us. As long as we just stick to bombing the evil Muslims, that’ll be fine with me.
getalife
April 27th, 2011
9:25 am
birthers should be deported today.
They can’t even man up and apologize.
stands for decibels
April 27th, 2011
9:25 am
But for Mr. “Look at How Filthy Rich I Am!!” to *choose* to wear that dead rat on his head is beyond absurd.
Disagree. Without that thing on his head, people might be more inclined to notice what an unattractive porker he really is.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:26 am
Getalife…..if we should have be deported. You should have been aborted!
PJ
April 27th, 2011
9:26 am
I think I’d rather go to a hair dresser than have surgery any day, easier too. Donald with all your money do somthing with that hair!
Midori
April 27th, 2011
9:26 am
You’re right, obviously $4 billion in subsidies isn’t working. Let’s double-down on stupid and increase it.
we have a winner here folks!!
DING, DING, DING!!!!!
Byteme wins best post of the year!!
Peadawg
April 27th, 2011
9:26 am
USinUK,
http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/story?seriesId=2&id=2334662
Maybe Obama and George W Bush should follow his lead…
Mighty Righty
April 27th, 2011
9:26 am
It just doesn’t occur to you that the subsidies may be working. Gas could be $9.00 p/gal without the subsidies as they are in Europe. What do you suppose our government will do with the additional revenue? Reduce the deficit? Dream on.
Mick
April 27th, 2011
9:27 am
I like petraeus at cia, we need about 3-6 months to get assets on the ground in iraq and afghanistan, then get the boots on the ground the hell out and move to a cold war….
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:27 am
Mighty….I was just about to post the exact same thing.
TnGelding
April 27th, 2011
9:27 am
What does it say about our psyche when the military leaders are the doves?
ByteMe
April 27th, 2011
9:28 am
It just doesn’t occur to you that the subsidies may be working.
Speaking of doubling down on stupid.
jm
April 27th, 2011
9:28 am
ATL. The New Detroit. I’m on my way outta here…..
http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/census-shock-result-of-926273.html
getalife
April 27th, 2011
9:28 am
trump is proud of himself.
drop out loser.
TaxPayer
April 27th, 2011
9:29 am
Hey Corporal! You out there. Which box on that long form are we supposed to be scrutinizing. I can’t remember. Should we be checking it type under an electron microscope in order to confirm that it has not been altered. How about the paper. Should it be carbon dated.
Finn McCool
April 27th, 2011
9:29 am
During a time of RECORD oil company profits, the “cut spending” conservatives can’t fathom why maybe those oil companies don’t need our tax dollars.
Just amazing!
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 27th, 2011
9:29 am
Awwww hell……….
Trump’s patting himself on the back saying that he’s the reason that Obama released his birth certificate. He said that he’s done something that nobody else could do. Ego stroking at it’s zenith.
md
April 27th, 2011
9:29 am
“Panetta switched to the Democratic Party in 1971, because he thought that the Republican Party was moving away from the political center.”
Not too sure what that means considering both parties have moved away from the “political center”.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:30 am
ByteMe…..we didnt think you would understand.
TnGelding
April 27th, 2011
9:30 am
Gates has a good demeanor but I wasn’t that impressed. The failures in Iraq, Afghanistan and now Libya are too glaring. His proposals to cut the Pentagon budget are woefully inadequate.
Don't Forget
April 27th, 2011
9:30 am
Well, the long form BC has been released. What’s on it? Nothing of course. Probably won’t shut up those birthers but at least we can now tell them to shove it all the way to the elbow
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:30 am
jm….we could have all seen that coming. Atlanta is the armpit of the South. Time to go and let the pigs have it.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 27th, 2011
9:31 am
Gas could be $9.00 p/gal without the subsidies as they are in Europe.
Gas is high in Europe because they tax themselves hard to help subsidize other forms of transit. I don’t think subsidies we have here really do that much other than boost profits for oil and gas companies.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:32 am
Southern…..got any proof to back up that claim or are you just assuming that the subsidies are not helping keep the price of gas lower for Americans?
Midori
April 27th, 2011
9:33 am
um, Byte — that was a triple, if anything…..
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
9:33 am
peadawg – poor guy – went from looking like a cab going down the street with its doors open to an elf out of Lord of the Rings
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
9:33 am
“Gas could be $9.00 p/gal without the subsidies as they are in Europe.”
oyvey.
what are you people DRINKING over there?
petrol costs are skyhigh in the UK and Europe because of TAXES
criminey.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:34 am
Southern….you do realize that around $.50 per gallon that you pay for fuel is tax. Right?
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
9:34 am
Finn – welfare for corporations not the poor!!!
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
9:35 am
dammit SoCo – you beat me to it (was distracted by the NASCAR driver’s ears)
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 27th, 2011
9:35 am
UGA
Simple math. Subtract the amount of subsidies for the entire industry from their profit total. If it’s a positive number, subsidies are not doing jack sh*t other than boosting the bottom line. If I give you a $2 Billion subsidy and your profit is around $500 million, then the subsidy is probably helping you keep from going under. However, if your subsidy is $4 Billion, and you profit in the ballpark of $8 Billion, odds are that you could have profitted $4 Billion without my help in the first place.
Peadawg
April 27th, 2011
9:35 am
“poor guy – went from looking like a cab going down the street with its doors open to an elf out of Lord of the Rings”
EPIC! That’s hilarious!
ByteMe
April 27th, 2011
9:36 am
Midori & USinUK: you can’t fix “stupid”. Don’t even bother. They really just can’t get out there and do the homework for themselves to learn about where every penny of cost in gasoline goes. It’s all out there documented, but they just won’t go look and would rather be blissfully ignorant.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:36 am
Southern….i understand and I am not arguing with all of your point.
Finn McCool
April 27th, 2011
9:36 am
“maybe the subsidies are working
Do you need a subsidy to go to get out of bed and go to work every day? Is a subsidy the only thing that can motivate you to earn a living?
“Oh, your family earns $200,000 a year? Bravo, let’s give you a subsidy so your family will CONTINUE to put in the effort to make that dollar amount year after year.”
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
9:36 am
UGA –
From 4th January 2011 the UK duty rate for the road fuels unleaded petrol, diesel, biodiesel and bioethanol is GB£0.5895 per litre (£2.65 per imperial gallon or £2.20 per U.S. gallon).[4] Value Added Tax at 20% is also charged on the price of the fuel and on the duty.
AmVet
April 27th, 2011
9:37 am
Too funny.
Once again the cons and Tea Partiers get played like cheap fiddles.
P. T. Barnum was right about a Republican being born every minute.
The Party of Permanent Rubes…
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 27th, 2011
9:37 am
UGA
WHen I went to Germany last year, we were paying right around $2.50 or so for gas. That’s $2.50 per gallon. Germany’s price was $1.35 per liter, which would mean around $5.40 or so per gallon. Their taxes are much, much more than our $.50 per gallon. Google it.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:37 am
However if the subsidies are taken away and gas increases to $5-$6 per gallon….Obama is a goner. Lets all pray that he does it.
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
9:38 am
ByteMe – which is why I was really trying to avoid getting sucked into the vortex … I made the mistake of confusing WRONG with STOOPID …
Good little liberal
April 27th, 2011
9:38 am
Trump does the job:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/20110427/ts_yblog_theticket/white-house-releases-obama-birth-certificate
My only question is: why all the secrecy for all these years? If it was this easy, why didn’t the clown do it four years ago?
Now about those transcripts . . .
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 27th, 2011
9:39 am
UGA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_tax
Fuel taxes in Germany are €0.4704 per litre for ultra-low sulphur Diesel and €0.6545 per litre for conventional unleaded petrol, plus Value Added Tax (19%) on the fuel itself and the Fuel Tax. That adds up to prices of €1.03 per litre for ultra-low sulphur Diesel and €1.22 per litre (approximately USD 6.28 per US gallon) for unleaded petrol (March 2009).
[...]
From 4th January 2011 the UK duty rate for the road fuels unleaded petrol, diesel, biodiesel and bioethanol is GB£0.5895 per litre (£2.65 per imperial gallon or £2.20 per U.S. gallon).[4] Value Added Tax at 20% is also charged on the price of the fuel and on the duty.
ByteMe
April 27th, 2011
9:39 am
However if the subsidies are taken away and gas increases to $5-$6 per gallon….Obama is a goner.
Someone should have spent more time in the UGA classroom and less time getting stoned.
AmVet
April 27th, 2011
9:39 am
md, it means that the GOP has moved away from the political center at warp speed.
Hell, they are so far out there now, they couldn’t see it with the Hubble Telescope…
ByteMe
April 27th, 2011
9:40 am
why all the secrecy for all these years? If it was this easy, why didn’t the clown do it four years ago?
Helped us identify the crazy. They don’t wear team colors, so we needed another way.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 27th, 2011
9:40 am
However if the subsidies are taken away and gas increases to $5-$6 per gallon….Obama is a goner. Lets all pray that he does it.
I’m sure you do UGA proud with your logic. Subsidies have almost nothing to do with gas prices here. Supply and demand will dictate that more than any subsidy ever could. Subsidies are nothing more than profit padding nowadays.
Don't Forget
April 27th, 2011
9:42 am
Good lord people. Oil is traded on a world market. Europe pays the same price for a barrel as we do. The difference in the price of gas is due to taxes and taxes alone.
Peadawg
April 27th, 2011
9:43 am
Saw this comment on Yahoo.com’s birth certificate article:
“Obama showed us his birth certificate, Trump please show us your hairline.”
Too funny!!!
Yippee
April 27th, 2011
9:43 am
If someone could figure out how to capture; compress; and burn what my dog emits…my gosh, that animal runs faster than cheap stockings.
RW-(the original)
April 27th, 2011
9:44 am
I’d still say that the single worst appointment made by the Bush administration was Paul Brenner to head the Iraq reconstruction
Who? Geez….
jm
April 27th, 2011
9:44 am
Greek Bond Yields are at 25% and Portugal is over 10%.
Joe Cool
April 27th, 2011
9:44 am
DUDE, why do you guys even go back and forth with UBUMB1999….. UGA=WOW. You’re just wasting keystrokes.
Ohh…and Poor Birthers. What next? The Prez just K!lled ya’lls lil souls. lol.
Now you guys can fully see how DUMB you all look. Go eat birth crow chumps.
And Good Morning to the rest of you all!
AmVet
April 27th, 2011
9:44 am
So the rubes believe the new Head Rube, Donald, is the reason for this non-news?
Incredibly humorous.
You boys got owned. Yet again.
Must have been his “tough talking”. The same kind he would apparently use to get OPEC to bend to his charms?
Clown with a capital C. (And poor Rudy 9/11! Giuliani. Sucking up to the Hairpiece.)
Even when you get punked, you neo-cons act like you’re not the punkees…
md
April 27th, 2011
9:45 am
“As far as subsidies themselves, I am neither for or against them. It depends. The question I would ask is what are the consequences with and without the subsidies. If an oil company subsidy merely preferentially increases the profitability of an oil company relative to other industries (i.e., a special subsidy that other industries don’t receive), or subsidizes consumption by making gasoline cheaper, I would be against it. If it increased domestic production and backed out imports, then the overall costs to society have to be taken into account in order to judge whether it is a good taxpayer investment.”
I doubt it is as cut and dried as many here want to make it………………one would be wise to look at the affects of said subsidies on the overall big picture………
Mighty Righty
April 27th, 2011
9:45 am
This is the umpteenth time Obama has produced the “Official” not witnessed, no doctor, not certified, no signature, certificate of birth. It has been released multyiple times it must be real. Besides not only has Obama himself said it, all of his supporters say it. The evidence is overwhelming. I’m convenced.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:45 am
Joe….read my prior posts this morning about the birth certificate. Before you post you may want to educate yourself.
Nice work!
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
9:46 am
Peadawg – 9:43 – I don’t care who you are, now THAT’S funny!
ByteMe – 9:40 – well said! (and, now we know what happened to all the Clinton Conspiracy nutters)
Don't Forget
April 27th, 2011
9:46 am
ByteMe
April 27th, 2011
9:40 am
why all the secrecy for all these years? If it was this easy, why didn’t the clown do it four years ago?
Because, if your opponents are making idiots out of themselves you shouldn’t stop them and the subject was never worthy of a response. I thought he’d do it just before the election next year to maximize their embarrasment.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:48 am
Dont Forget…..I am glad that he produced the document now we can move on. However why should anyone be embarressed of simply asking a question regarding an elected official?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 27th, 2011
9:48 am
I’m beginning to think there has been a major cheating scandal at UGA….sometime around 1999. Did they offer online courses then?
___________________________________
Obama to have a press conference about his birth certificate?
Good little liberal
April 27th, 2011
9:48 am
ByteMe
Identify the crazy? Like a harvard professor just dumb enough to let the controversy continue for four years?
And you want to see crazy? Read what about half the liberals on here claim every day.
N-GA
April 27th, 2011
9:48 am
Most of the Birthers will have to have someone else read the birth certificate to them.
retired early
April 27th, 2011
9:49 am
Off topic
How about those Afgan soldiers killing NATO/American soldiers form the same detachment after an argument.
Get the HELL out of that crazy country NOW. 10 years of fighting for what….They don’t want us there….and they still can’t take care of themselves….
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:49 am
Keep….I will be more than happy to compare educational degrees with you if you like. Good luck.
ByteMe
April 27th, 2011
9:49 am
Maybe Obama did it to boost Trump’s chances of getting into the race and making the GOP primary more of a circus. These guys are smarter than we give them credit.
TaxPayer
April 27th, 2011
9:49 am
Helped us identify the crazy. They don’t wear team colors, so we needed another way.
Maybe Trump will start selling oversized head pieces to help his fellow birthers cover up their L’s.
BADA BING
April 27th, 2011
9:50 am
The bad thing about your ears, is that they keep growing your entire life. You may yet have huge ears, so watch who you tease. Little Trick or Treater comes to the door dressed as a pirate. The woman greets him and asks ” Where are your Buccaneers”? He replies ‘Under my buccan hat”!
getalife
April 27th, 2011
9:50 am
The President interrupts the blowhard trump.
All bithers apologize now.
AmVet
April 27th, 2011
9:51 am
Re, that first 9:44,
We would have been better off with Yul Brenner, rather than that incompetent buffoon, Paul Bremer….
Jay
April 27th, 2011
9:51 am
Official long-form birther post above.
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
9:52 am
Bada – an oldie but a goodie
Joe Cool
April 27th, 2011
9:52 am
Now the new game plan CONs…LOL.
@ UDUMB1999… ZZZZzzzzZZZzzz
51% of Repubs are birthers….. 51% of the Repub party just got the rug snatched from under them. Dumb azz people.
Good little liberal
April 27th, 2011
9:52 am
Joe Cool
So you think that releasing what he should have released four years ago pardons his incompetence? Look around. More people in poverty than ever before in history. Worst continued unemployment in our lifetime.
Chumps? You are the one that is still supporting the clown.
So who’s the chump . . . chump.
md
April 27th, 2011
9:53 am
“md, it means that the GOP has moved away from the political center at warp speed.
Hell, they are so far out there now, they couldn’t see it with the Hubble Telescope…”
As a ex card carrying member of both parties, I sumize that both parties are running from the center at warp speed.
I also recall ole zig zag Zell once stating that he didn’t leave the democrat party…..the party left him.
I guess it depends on where on the scale one might be viewing the spectacle………..
Good little liberal
April 27th, 2011
9:53 am
getalife
When you apologize for still supporting his failed policies.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:54 am
Joe Cool…..yep all you guys are right. The ONLY reason we disagree with Obama is because of his birth status. Fools, this guys is the biggest moron to ever hold office and you guys are worried about what he did today.
Keep bowing on your knees to him. I am sure he appreciates it.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:54 am
Good little……AMEN!!!
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 27th, 2011
9:54 am
retired early @ 9:49
Amen!!
Midori
April 27th, 2011
9:55 am
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/BeeleN/2011/BeeleN20110427A_low.jpg
Jack
April 27th, 2011
9:55 am
Petraeus at the CIA is a very good thing.
Yippee
April 27th, 2011
9:56 am
We owe Trump a round of attaboys. He outsmarted Obama and got this off the table well in advance of the 2012 sideshow. Now it’s on to those pesky college records and writings.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
9:56 am
Good boy obama….good boy….great job obeying Trump…..here is a treat! Let the games begin!
Don't Forget
April 27th, 2011
10:00 am
UGA, the embarassment should be because there was never any real reason to doubt his birth and overwhelming evidence that he WAS born in Hawaii. The birthers were actually paranoid enought to think that somehow someone knew he would one day be president and had his birth falsely announced in a newspaper. That he somehow had the officials in Hawaii lying about factual information and that no one would find out about. They wanted us to believe that is was unusual that people who deliver babies every day did not specifically recall his birth. Sheesh the whole dam thing was moronic like most conspiracy theories because they ask you to believe a totally implausible theory as an explanation for some minor observation. So, you tell me……. why was this ever even an issue???? Name one presidential candidate who has EVER been asked to produce his long form BC other than Obama. Why was Obama held to a different standard?
Good little liberal
April 27th, 2011
10:01 am
Yippee
It’s great for trump. He forced Obama’s hand.
Liberals should be wetting themselves (more than usual) Trump gets things done. He forced Obama to do what no one else has done. Let’s see if he can force him to pack his bags and get out of our White House.
If he was able to cause this kind of trouble just over the birth certificate, wait until he goes after his policies.
Better strap yourself in, libs. This is going to be a rough ride.
BADA BING
April 27th, 2011
10:01 am
Peadog…..so you are a nerd? I have been a nerd, and idiot, a genius, a wallflower, a stud, an outlaw, and an angel. That’s just today.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
10:02 am
Dont…name another president that his father was Kenyan and had a muslim name.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
10:03 am
The debates between Trump and Obama should be on Pay Per View.
Mighty Righty
April 27th, 2011
10:04 am
The Obama plan to reduce gasoline prices: 1)Increase taxes on oil companies. 2)Appoint a committee of liberal friends to blame anyone other than him for the increases. 3) Coninue and expand the moratoriam on all drilling in this country. 4) Give Brazil money to drill in the gulf of mexico. 5) There is no silver bullett.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 27th, 2011
10:07 am
Trump didn’t do sh*t other than feed his ego.
John Birch
April 27th, 2011
10:07 am
Stupid Lib Tricks #1 – Let’s model ourselves after the Eurotrash. After all they’re doing so well…like Greece and Ireland and Spain, etc. I have a better idea; if you like the social democracies so much why don’t you all do like USINUK and just move there and make room for more Mexicans here!
Good little liberal
April 27th, 2011
10:09 am
UGA1999
He actually found another white hating preacher to take his kids to on Easter. Protective child services should take those kids before they become the racist that their Dad obviously is.
Good little liberal
April 27th, 2011
10:10 am
Have fun guys. Conservatives, don’t gloat too much.
I have money to earn and taxes to pay.
UGA1999
April 27th, 2011
10:11 am
Good little……are you surprised?
John Birch
April 27th, 2011
10:12 am
Stupid Lib Tricks #2 – Those evil corporations are getting handouts, tax breaks, incentives and making obscene profits while paying no taxes. A corporation is just a group of people, employees and stockholders with a legal charter. The stockholders participate in the obscene profits or the corporation retains them, often for use in expanding the business, thereby creating more jobs and stimulating the economy, you know, like Obama did with the stimulus handouts for government employees.
Mighty Righty
April 27th, 2011
10:18 am
Sorry. I was wrong. Obama does have a real birth certificate.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 27th, 2011
10:23 am
Glad Obozo put out his birth certificate. That should go a long way to torpedoing Trump and removing a source of distraction within the GOP. Thanks, Idiot Messiah!
stands for decibels
April 27th, 2011
10:45 am
He actually found another white hating preacher to take his kids to on Easter.
You shouldn’t talk about Rick Warren like that.
TnGelding
April 27th, 2011
2:43 pm
USinUK
April 27th, 2011
9:33 am
How do they spend that tax revenue? Is it dedicated to transportation?
TnGelding
April 29th, 2011
1:07 am
This is not the time for a rookie at the CIA.
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