It ends not with a bang, but a whimper

birth

Of course, it’s an obvious forgery.

Or something like that.

From the official White House statement:

“The President believed the distraction over his birth certificate wasn’t good for the country. It may have been good politics and good TV, but it was bad for the American people and distracting from the many challenges we face as a country. Therefore, the President directed his counsel to review the legal authority for seeking access to the long form certificate and to request on that basis that the Hawaii State Department of Health make an exception to release a copy of his long form birth certificate. They granted that exception in part because of the tremendous volume of requests they had been getting.”

Or as Obama himself put it this morning:

“We don’t have time for this kind of silliness. We’ve got better stuff to do.”

This changes nothing, of course. The birther nonsense was born out of a deep conviction in some quarters that Barack Obama “ain’t one of us,” that he is not merely unAmerican but anti-American, and that his presence in the White House is an insult to this nation’s heritage.

The birth-certificate controversy was merely that sentiment given literal form. Even after this, the sentiment will remain; the cynics who preached it and profited by it, and the fools who believed it, remain with us as well.

Donald Trump, for example, just took credit for forcing the release — “I’m very proud of myself,” he said — but he then doubled down on his foolishness, refusing point blank to acknowledge that this ends the controversy and instead demanding to see Obama’s academic records.

Birtherism was, and is, a symptom of something fundamentally gone awry in the national psyche. And this doesn’t fix it, not by a long shot.

– Jay Bookman

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independent thinker

April 27th, 2011
9:49 am

To Donald- You are fired -Bozo!

ByteMe

April 27th, 2011
9:50 am

It’s not even “official”, because Hawaii no longer recognizes the long form certificate, dontcha know.

(ir)Rational

April 27th, 2011
9:51 am

So, I’m guessing there will be plenty of people imitating the M&Ms commercial that played at Christmas several years ago. With Santa and the two M&Ms walking in on each other and passing out while saying “he does exist”/”they do exist.”

ByteMe

April 27th, 2011
9:52 am

In response to the “why did he wait so long?” question:

Maybe this is an attempt by the Obama Administration to pick their opponent in 2012…

Trump/Palin 2012!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 27th, 2011
9:53 am

Fox to apologize when?

Mary Elizabeth

April 27th, 2011
9:53 am

Birtherism was, and is, a symptom of something fundamentally gone awry in the national psyche. And this doesn’t fix it, not by a long shot.

—————————————–

Well said and so true.

Joe Cool

April 27th, 2011
9:54 am

LOL…the NeoCons are lost right now! LOL. That was their whole platform. Dumb azz birther people….. YES YOU :-)

deegee

April 27th, 2011
9:54 am

Geraldo Rivera just opened Al Capone’s safe and found…..nothing!

ByteMe

April 27th, 2011
9:54 am

OMG!!! It says “Certificate of Live Birth” at the top!! That’s not the real one!!!!

LMAO.

(ir)Rational

April 27th, 2011
9:54 am

I’m surprised there aren’t more people commenting yet. I know I’m one of the conservatives that typically posts on this blog, but I’m surprised the more radical of those that post here haven’t come over trying to figure out a way discredit this. Maybe they did pass out upon seeing it?

DeYolpMenu

April 27th, 2011
9:55 am

The Birther fools will keep pushing this issue just to get “face” time. I can’t wait to see Trumps tax documents; plus the true number of bankruptcies.

Midori

April 27th, 2011
9:55 am

Logical Dude

April 27th, 2011
9:56 am

Birthers say: Of COURSE it’s fake! Look how long they had to doctor it!

Me: Any evidence he was born anywhere else? ;)

TaxPayer

April 27th, 2011
9:56 am

It may not fix it but it sure makes poking at the nut cases more fun. Where’s the Corporal.

ByteMe

April 27th, 2011
9:56 am

Trump was right!! It says he was a “Muslim”!!!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 27th, 2011
9:56 am

When will we hear from Trump’s investigators….remember how we are to be amazed by what they were finding.

Peadawg

April 27th, 2011
9:56 am

“Donald Trump, for example, just took credit for forcing the release but doubled down on his foolishness, refusing point blank to acknowledge that this ends the controversy and demanding to see Obama’s academic records.”

Geeze this guy’s ego is bigger than my…um…ya… :)

NIght Train

April 27th, 2011
9:56 am

Bottom line — His mother WAS born in Kansas so and is/was and American, so regardless of where she gave birth, he is an American.

The “birthers” were fools from day one.

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

April 27th, 2011
9:57 am

That’s not the real one. Block 23 is supposed to be something different according to Scout. Nevermind the fact that 50 states might use 50 different types of the same form. Oh well, on to the next conspiracy…. :roll:

stands for decibels

April 27th, 2011
9:57 am

about the “me love you long form” business—first this bit of accepted conventional wisdom, from the CNN story:

While the president has tried to make light of the controversy, the question has remained political red meat for some of his critics. A recent CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll showed that nearly 75% of Americans believe Obama was definitely or probably born in the United States. More than four in 10 Republicans, however, believe he probably or definitely was not born in America.

We’ve all heard this, right? And it’s somewhat alarming. But…

I think Nate Silver was on to something the other day, when he published a post saying in effect that while there really are some people who actually believe Obama is a sooper seeckret Muslim-Manchurian or suchlike, that there’ve got to be some people who instinctively give a stupid answer to a stupid question. He offered as evidence that a decent chunk of people polled about Donald Trump answered that they weren’t certain HE was born in this country.

So why do we feel the need to pay pollsters to ask such stupid questions in the first place? It’s a chicken-or-egg question—does the birtherism feed the news coverage, or vice versa? (Not that I guess we’ll ever know the answer.)

Carnival Barker Trumped

April 27th, 2011
9:58 am

That ain’t no damn birth certificate!

Really?

April 27th, 2011
9:58 am

Wow. This has been up for over 15 minutes now? Where are the all the nuts today?

stands for decibels

April 27th, 2011
9:58 am

Yippee

April 27th, 2011
9:58 am

We owe Trump a round of attaboys. He outsmarted Obama and got this off the table well in advance of the 2012 sideshow. Now it’s on to those pesky college records and writings.

TaxPayer

April 27th, 2011
9:58 am

At least Obama’s form says “Birth” instead of “Hatch” at the top.

Call it like it is

April 27th, 2011
9:58 am

Hawaii in not really a state, I’m pretty sure the papers were not filled out correctly………so therefore this form means nothing, he still aint one of us………..Hey I dont care for the man, but this stuff is pretty damn funny. Just don’t know why he didnt release it day one and be done with it. Now it has grown out of control and this want fix anything. Now they will move on to his grades. Same thing just release the forms and be done with it. Quench the fire while its small.

poison pen

April 27th, 2011
9:58 am

The mother was 18, the father 25, that couldn’t be sex with a minor prior to conceiving, could it?

retired early

April 27th, 2011
9:59 am

Rational

They are listening to the Talking Heads to hear what they have come up with. This pretty much exposes the Donald for the “fool” he really is…what’s that about stop digging…

AmVet - A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

April 27th, 2011
9:59 am

If you view it through a very powerful microscope, you will see a very small hologram in the bottom right corner which depicts the second gunman on the grassy knoll, with Elvis and the Aliens in the background.

.

finn mccool

April 27th, 2011
9:59 am

But he’s still a musilimin

Logical Dude

April 27th, 2011
9:59 am

IT says RIGHT THERE IN BOX 11!!!
Birthplace: Kenya, East Africa
Whoa!!!!!! Barack Hussein Obama WAS born in Kenya!!!!

Oh wait, that’s the father. OOPS.

DeYolpMenu

April 27th, 2011
9:59 am

The Presidents birth certificate looks very similar to my Florida; I guess I must have been born in Kenya as well.

Yippee

April 27th, 2011
9:59 am

Any chance that Trump’s lead investigator is named Geraldo Rivera?

USinUK

April 27th, 2011
10:00 am

damn. I feel like someone just took away my favorite toy … NOW what will we have to ridicule???

USinUK

April 27th, 2011
10:01 am

Joe Cool

April 27th, 2011
10:01 am

“I have people on the ground in Hawaii right now”, “You’ll never believe the things we’re finding”
-TRUMP

Iditots in it purest form.

stands for decibels

April 27th, 2011
10:02 am

The bibliophile in me is glad that they didn’t rip the page from the bound volume, as I had feared they might.

poison pen

April 27th, 2011
10:02 am

Yipee, you are correct, it just shows how much power Trump has and how afraid of him they are. This is really funny and it will be the story of the day.
Just imagine, 3 wars, I know AmVet, if we don’t kill thousands & thousands you don’t call it a war, but I do, the economy in the dump and millions out of work and we get this stupid story.

Joe

April 27th, 2011
10:03 am

Of course it won’t fix it Jay. But buffoons like you will continue to cover for this flawed man until your blue in the face. People want to know about his life history and the folks he hung out with and the causes he championed. It helps for us to get a better understanding of where he’s at on the issues. The media completely ignores this because they realize if they dig deep enough voters will see the far left lunatic fringe side of Obama that makes up the guide for most of his policies. Honestly Jay. Birth certificate or not this man don’t seem a little bit mysterious to you?

Jay

April 27th, 2011
10:03 am

A hilarious tweet from Sarah Palin:

“Media: admit it, Trump forced the issue. Now, don’t let the WH distract you w/the birth crt from what Bernanke says today. Stay focused, eh?”

Yippee

April 27th, 2011
10:03 am

The mother was 18, the father 25, that couldn’t be sex with a minor prior to conceiving, could it?

We know his father fostered immature ideas and a childish worldview, but I think him being 25 lets the mother off the hook. :-)

AT

April 27th, 2011
10:04 am

But, but, but, the Donald said it was missing!!!

md

April 27th, 2011
10:04 am

The fringe will always be there……..and you folks are so funny…..as if there aren’t fringe on both “sides”.

I guess when one chooses a side, it is best to turn a blind eye to one’s own “not quite all there” folks….

And just for the record, Obama was playing the game too…….he could just as easily released the info from the get go…..same with his grades. There will always be those that don’t believe them to be true, but it would have removed the perceived cloak of secrecy…….from the translucent candidate.

(ir)Rational

April 27th, 2011
10:04 am

NIght Train – his mother being American didn’t make him a NATURAL born citizen unless he was born in the US. At that time, one or both of his parents would have had to have been American (not disputing that fact) AND he would have had to have been born in the boundaries of the US, or a US Military base overseas or in a consulate or embassy. I’ve never thought he wasn’t a citizen, I just always found it odd that he didn’t release the birth certificate earlier. If I was running for president, even though there is plenty of evidence I was born in Tennessee, and spent 98% of my childhood in Northwest Georgia, I would expect that I would need to release my birth certificate just to meet the natural born citizen clause of the Constitution.

DeYolpMenu

April 27th, 2011
10:05 am

Joe – Bit Mysterious???? Come on dude ….. Donald Trump’s hair is a heck of a lot more mysterious than anything about President Obama.

Joe

April 27th, 2011
10:05 am

Actually I am very surprised he did this. Now he has to talk about real issues that are hurting everyday Americans as a result of his failed policies….

larry

April 27th, 2011
10:06 am

“We don’t have time for this kind of silliness. We have more important stuff to do.”

AGREED!!

MV

April 27th, 2011
10:06 am

Well, OK, but where is the circumcision record? I demand to see it!

Fletch

April 27th, 2011
10:07 am

Call – “Just don’t know why he didnt release it day one and be done with it.”

Because under the laws of the state of Hawaii, the certificate is sealed. Obama was simply respecting the the rights of the individual state. However, since everyone was losing so much sleep over it, he did finally ask them to make an exception and release the document. Hawaii could have easily said no as it is in direct conflict with their stated laws.

(ir)Rational

April 27th, 2011
10:07 am

DeYolpMenu – I would say equally, not more or less.

Jay

April 27th, 2011
10:07 am

No Joe. To be honest, people who make arguments like you just did are far more of a mystery to me.

AngryRedMarsWoman

April 27th, 2011
10:07 am

Sigh. I almost wish they hadn’t released it. It won’t solve anything. People who believe he is not an American will simply claim it must be a fake because it took so long to produce it. People who believe he is an American didn’t need to see it. Anyway, I don’t understand why anyone would want to prove he isn’t – wouldn’t that put Biden in charge? eek. One nice thing is it does put to rest his enthicity – he is mixed, black and white, so shut up already with “he’s black and you’re a racist.” He is half and half and from now on when I disagree with his position on something I will be sure to clarify that I believe the position he has taken was formed by his white half and thus in disagreeing with him I am not being racist. Hope everyone weathers the storm tonight – stay safe.

AmVet - A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

April 27th, 2011
10:07 am

pen, how does it feel to get punked?

Once again.

Now you Hairpiece Rubes have nothing to hang onto but your equally dumb delusion that you have NOT been owned.

Grade A, industrial strength loons.

Now, you and your Tea Flogging pals are just going to have to find some other idiotic non-issue to focus on…

But, don’t worry, I have complete faith in you…

Yippee

April 27th, 2011
10:07 am

So Jay, you don’t think Trump forced the issue? Would a diverson by any White House be unimaginable? Why in the world would a smart guy be following Palin anyway/

SOUTHERN ATL

April 27th, 2011
10:07 am

The “Birther Circus” will continue because it makes the Tea Party and their followers feel like they have the upper hand. Can the country move forward with the real issues that we are facing?

Obama 2012

(ir)Rational

April 27th, 2011
10:07 am

MV – I’ll pass on that one. I don’t even want to see mine, I know it happened, but I don’t want to see it.

stands for decibels

April 27th, 2011
10:07 am

They are listening to the Talking Heads

Say something once, why say it again?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 27th, 2011
10:08 am

3) The Hawaiian officials never said he was born in Hawaii (although I think he was). They said they had reviewed the original birth certificate on file and that it “was in order.”
What I would like to see is if there are any entries in Block #25 on the long-form certificate. That block is entitled “Reason for alteration or delay.”

Someone has got some splaining to do……did you see Block #25. Are we taking bets on when Scout will show up.

Joe Cool

April 27th, 2011
10:08 am

All the normal birthers on this blog are M.I.A this morning..lol.
*crickets*

larry

April 27th, 2011
10:08 am

But, but, but, the Donald said it was missing!!!

Yes, he did say that a couple of days ago. You dont think he lied about this did you ?

Hi, my name is Forrest, Forrest Trump.

BADA BING

April 27th, 2011
10:09 am

Wait a minute, how do we know that this is really Jay’s blog? Is there any proof that this is an official AJC site?

Don't Forget

April 27th, 2011
10:09 am

So, when will trump release the things his investigators supposedly found? Never, that’s when. The president was telling the truth and just proved it. Trump is a bald faced liar and has nothing to back up his claims.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 27th, 2011
10:09 am

poison pen

April 27th, 2011
10:09 am

AMVET, please find 1 time that I have ever questioned his Birth, just 1

Finn McCool

April 27th, 2011
10:10 am

this flawed man

And you voted for the guy who graduated at the bottom of his class and left his wife for another woman while she was in the hospital.

oy

poison pen

April 27th, 2011
10:10 am

Thank you. USUCK

Joe

April 27th, 2011
10:11 am

That is because of your blind allegiance to the liberal philosophy and to Obama Jay. Obama could spit on the American flag on live national TV and you would find an excuse for him. Yet you attack people who don’t agree with you with no basis or merit… LOL….

khc

April 27th, 2011
10:11 am

birthers now comfirmed as dumb arses

Haywood Jablome

April 27th, 2011
10:11 am

The second (”II”), eh?

So where is the first? obviously, his identical clone twin 1st?

Yippee

April 27th, 2011
10:11 am

@Fletch

April 27th, 2011
10:07 am

Obama was simply respecting the the rights of the individual state. However, since everyone was losing so much sleep over it, he did finally ask them to make an exception and release the document.

You are funny (or dillusional), but I respect your right to carry the waterbucket.

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

April 27th, 2011
10:11 am

NIght Train – his mother being American didn’t make him a NATURAL born citizen unless he was born in the US. At that time, one or both of his parents would have had to have been American (not disputing that fact) AND he would have had to have been born in the boundaries of the US, or a US Military base overseas or in a consulate or embassy.

Wong, wrong, wrong.

Obama was a citizen at birth regardless to where he was born. He derived citizenship from his mother if he was born on foreign soil. Although his parents were married, that marriage was not legal, as Obama Sr. had not divorced his wife in Kenya. Therefore Obama would derive citizenship from his mother. Check the Naturalization Charts. I’ve posted the same info too many times to count here, yet people don’t want to read for themselves.

Dude was a citizen soon as he took his first breath, even if he was born in a space station flying over Russia.

This has been 2+ years of lost discourse because of a portion of our society refuses to educate themselves and depend solely on the info fed to them from unreliable sources.

(ir)Rational

April 27th, 2011
10:11 am

poison – no one has questioned his birth. Everyone can see that he was born, unless you are presenting some alternate theory like he was spawned? ;)

HW

April 27th, 2011
10:12 am

The President and his team are brilliant strategist­s. The first approach was to ignore this issue entirely. It was so silly. When Trump started fanning the flames, instead of reacting right away, they waited until the moment when they could get the most benefit from releasing it. I wish they could have waited even longer, but it’s clear that the timing had to be balanced with regard for people who might begin taking Trump’s paranoia seriously. Some will never believe and move onto school grades, parking tickets, etc. as the new issue du jour, but most will move on now.

Peadawg

April 27th, 2011
10:12 am

“All the normal birthers on this blog are M.I.A this morning..lol.
*crickets*”

They are trying to think of more conspiracy theories to fill the void.

RB from Gwinnett

April 27th, 2011
10:12 am

“The mother was 18, the father 25, that couldn’t be sex with a minor prior to conceiving, could it?”

Could be. Not worth all the secrecy and hoopla, but maybe that was the reason for it. Obama obviously had no part in that decisision.

So, mom was an unemployed 18 year old and dad was an unemployed student. Who was it that paid for an ivy league education again????

larry

April 27th, 2011
10:12 am

I want to see Forrest Trumps birth certificate, financial records, tax records , divorce records, bankruptcy records, driving records, etc. etc.

Joe Cool

April 27th, 2011
10:13 am

The CONs over at FOX are losing their minds this morning.

Good little liberal

April 27th, 2011
10:13 am

Trump absolutely forced the issue.

Jay, the good news is that you will have a lot to complain about over the next two years.

The bad news is that you are stuck supporting an incompetent clown.

USinUK

April 27th, 2011
10:14 am

Peadawg – if they could only connect Obama and Vince Foster!!! CURSES!!!

Don't Forget

April 27th, 2011
10:14 am

khc

April 27th, 2011
10:11 am

birthers now comfirmed as dumb arses

There was never really any doubt except amongst other dumb a’s.

Doggone/GA

April 27th, 2011
10:14 am

“his mother being American didn’t make him a NATURAL born citizen unless he was born in the US”

John McCain was born in Panama

(ir)Rational

April 27th, 2011
10:14 am

So Co – I’m not relying on what others tell me, well not relying on what people on Fox News or talk radio tell me. I’m relying on what information I can find in legal dictionaries, and online in the writings of constitutional scholars. Not all of them agree, but most say born within the boundaries of a country, and whose parents owe no allegiance to any other country at the time of birth.

ProgressivePeach

April 27th, 2011
10:14 am

“Birtherism was, and is, a symptom of something fundamentally gone awry in the national psyche.”

There’s a term for it Jay, it’s called “racism.”

USinUK

April 27th, 2011
10:14 am

Joe Cool – you’re going to need to expand on that a bit – tell us how this is different from any other day

larry

April 27th, 2011
10:15 am

Dude was a citizen soon as he took his first breath, even if he was born in a space station flying over Russia.

Dont give them any ideas, please. LOL!!

Finn McCool

April 27th, 2011
10:16 am

Who was it that paid for an ivy league education again????

scholarships?

(ir)Rational

April 27th, 2011
10:16 am

Doggone – he was born in the Canal Zone which was, at that time, American soil. Or did I miss something?

Peadawg

April 27th, 2011
10:16 am

“There’s a term for it Jay, it’s called “racism.””

You can add people who play the race card to the list of dumb arses also.

Yippee

April 27th, 2011
10:17 am

HW

April 27th, 2011
10:12 am

The President and his team are brilliant strategist­s.

Possibly the most humorous post I have ever read on Jay’s blog.

chef pierre

April 27th, 2011
10:17 am

Just another case of FOX TEA PARTY GOP LOSERS LOOKING STUPID.

DEA

April 27th, 2011
10:17 am

“Fox to apologize when?”

Fox to apologize why?

UGA1999

April 27th, 2011
10:17 am

Quick question…..how is Barack a “II” or junior. If his fathers name was not the same?

Joe

April 27th, 2011
10:17 am

Honestly though you left wings loon should think long and hard about this. Donald Trump certainly made this happen. That should be without a doubt. If Trump can instigate this from the President of the United States think of what he can do if he actually if he had the title. How much influence could he have throughout the world only because he carries the conversation while others follow…? That’s a real leader….

md

April 27th, 2011
10:17 am

“Obama was a citizen at birth regardless to where he was born. He derived citizenship from his mother if he was born on foreign soil”

soco…I believe part of the argument had his mother renouncing her citizenship after she got married……….

When one gets a conspiracy in their head (sooth?), one tends to insert whatever info is needed to justify one’s position……….

(ir)Rational

April 27th, 2011
10:18 am

Progressive – not everyone who questions Obama is racist. And technically, if I wanted to poke the bull here, his birth certificate only lists one actual race, and that would be Caucasian. Like I said, just poking the bull.

chef pierre

April 27th, 2011
10:19 am

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE….GOP LOSERS>>>

AmVet - A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

April 27th, 2011
10:19 am

Barry did to these Republidupes what I sometimes do to them here.

Make them howl and beg for awhile. Sometime a considerable while.

Kinda cruel, but also great fun.

The GOP – The Punked Party…

Good little liberal

April 27th, 2011
10:19 am

RB from Gwinnett

Yer basic liberal method of raising children.

Mother and Father not legally married. (His dad was already married to another woman)

Mother has the baby while the father hits the road. (At least she didn’t kill the child)

Didn’t kill the baby so it was dumped onto the mother’s parents to raise while she goes looking for another boyfriend.

Then the Dunham family sends the kid to one of the most exclusive private schools in the world that was known for it’s racial inclusion, but little Barry made horrible grades and complained that nobody liked him.

And he’s still complaining . . .

Yippee

April 27th, 2011
10:20 am

I want to see Forrest Trumps birth certificate, financial records, tax records , divorce records, bankruptcy records, driving records, etc. etc.

And Trump became president when?

Sean

April 27th, 2011
10:21 am

Birthers are people trying to look for some technicality that Obama should not be president. They were upset that he won the election and are desperate to find something to invalidated it.

There are soo many things Republicans can attack Obama on that are substance related, but this birther nonsense makes independent votes think everything Republicans say with a grain of salt.