Bush official: Debt ceiling foes are ‘al Qaeda terrorists’
“Former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill compared lawmakers trying to block raising the debt ceiling to “al Qaeda terrorists.”
“The people who are threatening not to pass the debt ceiling are our version of al Qaeda terrorists. Really,” O’Neill, Treasury secretary in the Republican administration of George W. Bush, said Wednesday in an interview with Bloomberg Television’s InBusiness with Margaret Brennan.
“They’re really putting our whole society at risk by threatening to round up 50 percent of the members of the Congress, who are loony, who would put our credit at risk,” O’Neill said.”
O’Neill, you may recall, was fired in 2002 after warning the Bush administration that a second round of tax cuts, following the initial round in 2001, would create a huge deficit, especially with a new war in Iraq underway.
After O’Neill brought up his concerns to his friend Dick Cheney, the vice president infamously responded:
“You know, Paul, Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter. We won the mid-term elections, this is our due.”
– Jay Bookman
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Moderate Line
April 27th, 2011
7:50 pm
Jay
April 27th, 2011
7:33 pm
Well, Lil One, given that he inherited a $1.2 trillion deficit before he even walked in the door of the White House, I’m not sure you can blame most of it on him. It’s largely a product of much lower revenues because of the economy and higher expenses for unemployment, food stamps, etc. I know those on the right don’t like to acknowledge those realities, but it’s the truth.
+++++
Obama inherited a bad hand. The defict in 2007 was 1.2% of GDP and trending downward. The deficit in 2009 was 10% of GDP in 2009. This would indicate that 88% of the deficit in 2009 is primarily due to the slowed down.
However, the steady state estimate indicates that spending will be 3% of GDP higher than in 2006. Revenues will be .8% higher. Considering that in 2016 the deficit prediction will be 3.3% almost all of the defict projection can be attributed to increase spending not decrease in revenues.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals
RW-(the original)
April 27th, 2011
7:50 pm
Jay B,
I’m not sure I understand your question, but never-ending stimulus packages are certainly a big part.
josef nix
April 27th, 2011
7:51 pm
GLL
The what? 10,000? Quit being silly…Ole Mubarak could have dealt with 10,000 in the blink of an eye and it would never even have made the news, much less brought about his demise…
I have no idea which way Egypt will go, but whichever way it is, it is their decision and not ours
“So basically, if enough people get together and start rioting, we can throw over our own government. Isn’t that right?”
I dunno…ask the Brits about that…worked pretty well back in the late 18th Century here in the good ole USA…didn’t turn out so well in France a few years later…worked pretty well in Poland in the 1980s…hard to tell…
poison pen
April 27th, 2011
7:51 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 27th, 2011
7:46 pm
Okay B, let’s try it this way. Yes or no to each
1. Do you believe that Obama is at fault for his “failure” to control gas prices?
2. Do you believe market forces control gas prices and as such are outside of Obama’s control under current law?
3. Do you believe that Bush was at fault for his “failure” to control gas prices during his admin?
4. Do you believe during the Bush Admin assuming the same laws as currently exist that market forces controlled gas prices and as such the prices were outside of Bush’s control.
#1 no, but he has done nothing to control them, just like the Pres since Nixon.
#2 Yes, again a repeat answer as #1
#3 and #4 same ans as #1 & 2
That was fun.
Doggone/GA
April 27th, 2011
7:52 pm
“I’m still waiting for anyone to tell my why Congress can fail to raise the debt ceiling on time on multiple occasions,”
Here’s one for YOU to ponder: why was the debt ceiling raised 7 times during the previous administration?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 27th, 2011
7:52 pm
No B…we got the point…you want to whine but duck a real answer.
B
April 27th, 2011
7:53 pm
If I’m not mistaken – Obama voted against raising the debt ceiling while in Congress, does the headline apply to him as well?
killerj
April 27th, 2011
7:53 pm
Cynthia Tucker for example,Go Tea Party.
B
April 27th, 2011
7:54 pm
So Keep – no whining here, just making a statement. How ’bout you answer the questions.
B
April 27th, 2011
7:55 pm
Keep, can you explain my point? Just want to make sure I was clear.
getalife
April 27th, 2011
7:55 pm
How many times did w raise it?
The cons said nothing.
josef nix
April 27th, 2011
7:55 pm
PAUL
I’m not at all trying to downrate it, but it apparantly hasn’t yet…and I emphasize here as earlier, that yet–reached the magnitude and intensity which was promised in Benghazi…but we really don’t know yet…
Dave R.
April 27th, 2011
7:56 pm
“Here’s one for YOU to ponder: why was the debt ceiling raised 7 times during the previous administration?”
No need to ponder it at all. Simple misdirection away from the question at hand.
Why the fainting couches now, when it has been done multiple times before with NO economic consequences?
Doggone/GA
April 27th, 2011
7:59 pm
“Why the fainting couches now, when it has been done multiple times before with NO economic consequences?”
Well, you’re question specified “on time” – maybe there was no serious effect because they WERE passed.
Left wing management
April 27th, 2011
7:59 pm
Paul: “First, he’s the guy used to asking the penetrating questions and chewing people out.”
Think you’re right, Paul. I also think he hams it up, aiming to make it part of his ‘brand’. He really did go out of his way to insult John King in his interview today which just broadcast .It was quite striking. It will clearly turn off some voters, but endear him to many.
I can imagine him raging at Stephanopoulos after the infamous “next question, George” interview, waving his finger and warning: “I can BREAK you over my leg, you little twerp”.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
April 27th, 2011
7:59 pm
Paul O’Neill’s a smacked ass who got the boot and can’t get over it. This is Jay Bookman melodrama, there is no crises if we don’t raise the debt ceiling as the government has sufficient money through most of August. It only means that Obama and friends can’t borrow anymore money and that’s a good thing until this mess gets settled with meaningful spending cuts. Severe storms evidently on the way, so y’all keep your heads down tonight.
Paul
April 27th, 2011
8:00 pm
B
Many, many Congressmen, at some point in their careers, cast a vote to make a statement. It’s done when they know their vote is not crucial to the majority.
At other times, party leadership assesses the vote totals, then gives approval to party members to vote against the package. This is done where the issue is highly unpopular in the Congressman’s district and where it could become a significant issue for well-funded special interests who would use a vote with the majority to mount a serious election challenge.
But neither of those apply with what we now see – an extremely critical issue, with both parties staking out positions and the need for every vote possible.
Good little liberal
April 27th, 2011
8:02 pm
josef nix
There’s nothing silly about it. By some estimates, Glen Beck brought half a million people to the Mall. So is Glen now the president or should these rules just apply to “lesser” people. You are saying that if a group is vocal enough, that we should support them. Is there a stable government left?
Do you have ANY idea what you are saying? We have no allies as long as someone knows how to use facebook to incite a riot. That’s what being an Ally is. Obama turned his back on one of our closest allies because of a populous movement.
I have to go home. I think talking to liberals have given me enough nightmares for a while.
Paul
April 27th, 2011
8:03 pm
josef
I know, I know…. and it’s the reality of situations like that that run in direct conflict with the desire to not get involved in every country’s affairs and to solve every injustice.
But this is something, as I said, that crosses the line.
md
April 27th, 2011
8:03 pm
Jo…if we go slow and steady with Qaddafi, I’d hazard a guess that the number of dead will end up where it would have been without the intervention.
I’m lost on the “Qaddafi has to go” and “Qaddafi is the problem” and then not taking out Qaddafi.
The UN mandate states to protect the people…..well, they need protecting from Qaddafi….makes sense to quit beating around the bush and just take the guy out………..
Midori
April 27th, 2011
8:05 pm
Paul/Amvet/Keep — if you liked that, Orly Tait will be on momentarily with Lawrence O’Donnell
Paul
April 27th, 2011
8:05 pm
Left Wing
I had to laugh at that.
Trump should realize what he’s doing, if he decides to run, is an extended audition. He’s the interviewee, we’re sizing him up. We are interviewing him. Shouldn’t be a time where he should expect people to differentiate between the tv personality and the future statesman.
josef nix
April 27th, 2011
8:05 pm
Donald Trump is, imho, a pompous, vain and not at all intelligent ass with all the grace and charm of a bull elephant and the wit and charm of a pit viper…rude and vulgar, common as yard dirt and a bad drag queen…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 27th, 2011
8:07 pm
B…my statement is simple. The market forces that are impacting oil prices are not supply and demand, the market is distorted by Wall Street. Oil demand has dropped and overall production has increased and yet prices are rising. The only control possible by Obama today is to control over Wall Street.
Jay
April 27th, 2011
8:08 pm
Yeah. What Josef said.
willie lynch
April 27th, 2011
8:08 pm
Obama has spent like no other president in history. To bring us out of the worst economic calamity in the last 80 years. Bush spent money like a drunken sailor and didn’t have to contend with an economic freefall left by his predecessor. Remember Rumsfeld “the Iraq war will cost us 60 billion”. Then they went about putting out there economic numbers without counting the cost of the wars they started.
Yeah, Obama’s our problem. You idiots.
Paul
April 27th, 2011
8:08 pm
Thanks, Midori!
You want a sneak peek at what happens?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7GJcKuVGm8
willie lynch
April 27th, 2011
8:09 pm
Was josef describing Sarah Palin?
b
April 27th, 2011
8:09 pm
Keep, that wasn’t my point. So are you saying it wasn’t Bush’s fault?
md
April 27th, 2011
8:12 pm
So Jo…..you think quite highly of Mr Trump……..
josef nix
April 27th, 2011
8:12 pm
PAUL and md…
I’ll be honest, I don’t know…in these situations we find ourselves (and I don’t mean just Americans, but humans) trying to gain some sense of perspective to what we know has all the elements of Srebinica, Sulamaneya, or Kigali…
Good little liberal
April 27th, 2011
8:13 pm
josef nix
“Donald Trump is, imho, a pompous, vain and not at all intelligent ass with all the grace and charm of a bull elephant and the wit and charm of a pit viper…rude and vulgar, common as yard dirt and a bad drag queen…”
I would say the same things about Obama, but I would be a racist if I did.
Dave R.
April 27th, 2011
8:13 pm
“Well, you’re question specified “on time” – maybe there was no serious effect because they WERE passed.”
Some Congressmen have been on news shows talking about MONTHS between when the ceiling should have been raised, and when it finally was.
Why the angst now when there was nary a peep before?
josef nix
April 27th, 2011
8:15 pm
Willie
Nyanh…Sarah’s a pretty good drag queen!
Kamchak
April 27th, 2011
8:15 pm
B — (or is it now b? You really should pay attention to the way you post after you do the sock-puppet thingie)
What’s not to understand?
You’re rather puerile attempt to point out hypocrisy pretty much fell apart after most of the liberals here pointed out they didn’t blame Bush for higher gas prices.
Paul
April 27th, 2011
8:16 pm
josef nix
Yeah, it’s like that poem or whatever it is, the one about “I can’t do everything but I can do this.” Sometimes doing something just because we can is good enough.
Off to supper.
Pleasant evening, all -
Left wing management
April 27th, 2011
8:17 pm
Btw, here’s an early prediction. I look for a Jesse Jackson or an Al Sharpton to start making statements to put pressure on NBC for giving forum – in the form of one of its prime time slots, prime tv real estate – to a man who is clearly a racist. What else to conclude of a man who says Obama should get off the basketball court and raised questions about Obama’s qualifications for admission to Harvard.
Paul: “Trump should realize what he’s doing, if he decides to run, is an extended audition. He’s the interviewee, we’re sizing him up. ”
Yeah but you see that’s just the thing. We’re moving into territory now where the rules are being rewritten as we speak. What Trump is – possibly, assuming he’s serious – making a bid to do is to effectively run as ‘tough guy’, strongman. So it sets up a potentially sadistic dynamic with the voting public itself, who might, presumably, be interested in electing a man they actually fear. And this precisely because that would – in their mind – be just the type of leader to have go up against a world of frightening forces they no longer understand.
Midori
April 27th, 2011
8:18 pm
LOL, Paul!!!
I’M MELTING!!!!!!!!!!
Glenn Beck's Black Mistress
April 27th, 2011
8:20 pm
So the birther idiots were pretty much lying in wait for Jay to change the subject
Hi’ya boys
josef nix
April 27th, 2011
8:21 pm
GLL
No, Obama is an elitist who dances a two-step to make a Cajun proud…but he’s not particularly pompous, has a really good self-effacing wit, too much charm, is graceful and poised to a fault, and is a drag queen’s drag queen as that Evita-inspired tour during the campaign made clear…
Glenn Beck's Black Mistress
April 27th, 2011
8:24 pm
Jay, let this be the last of your useless drivel for today, mmkay? There are bigger, more important things that we Americans need to be worried about. Like the royal wedding in less than 48 hours (duh).
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 27th, 2011
8:27 pm
b…if the factors were exactly same, then no it does not seem to have been bush’s fault. If the factors were different, then the answer may change but may not change either. Its a diffferent analysis.
Now were the factors the same? In your mind, was it Bush’s fault? Is it Obama’s fault? If you answer is not the same for both, explain.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 27th, 2011
8:32 pm
B: If I’m not mistaken – Obama voted against raising the debt ceiling while in Congress, does the headline apply to him as well?
———————–
And there you have the smackdown of the week.
Mick
April 27th, 2011
8:35 pm
josef
What about summa cum laude, does that carry any weight?
Good little liberal
April 27th, 2011
8:38 pm
josef nix
I can’t say he’s pompous because then I would be accused of saying that he is uppity. But he is an incredibly pompous person.
He is incredibly vain. Most high profile people have to be.
He is either not very smart of he is intentionally doing things that continue to hurt our country. I’ll let you make that choice. Stupid or traitorous. Your choice.
He is an ass and he showed his “grace and charm” when he invited Rep Ryan to set in the front row so he could publicly scold him in front of a national audience, much like he talked to McCain in an attempt to humiliate him when he crowed the the election was over.
He insists on exposing his young children to the worst kind of racist preachers, first Wright and now this clown last Sunday. He never misses a chance to honor Islam while pretending to be a Christian.
While he may not openly be rude and vulgar, at least that we know of, with Trump, you know what you are getting. With Obama, after two years of his overt lies that put him in office and then two years of his clown act, we still don’t know if he is a traitor to our country or just too stupid to breath.
As far as the drag queen, I know of several that can throw a baseball over the plate, while Obama . . . well you know.
B
April 27th, 2011
8:41 pm
Kammy – Hope you’re having a good day as well and thanks for being so forgiving. Sorry I’m not an avid reader so I missed all the posts where the libs said it wasn’t Bush’s fault. I do remember the liberal media creating hysteria during Bush’s term, now – not so much…
Dave R.
April 27th, 2011
8:44 pm
“What about summa cum laude, does that carry any weight?”
No, the only thing that carries weight is SUMO cum laude.
Mick
April 27th, 2011
8:46 pm
dave r
Gotta admit, that’s pretty damn funny…..
I know it...You know it...The American People know it.
April 27th, 2011
8:47 pm
Mr. Bookman- I have to take issue with your assetion at 7:48 that “the ObamaCare costs haven’t begun yet”
I’m no economist, but anecdotally our company’s insurance provider (a well-known national name) significantly raised our costs immediately after passage of ObamaCare on everything from office visits to generic prescriptions. ObamaCare costs, as indirect as they may be, are already here for many of us.
P.S.- Very amusing watching this Administration’s defenders twisting themselves into analytic pretzels while offering all of the economic, geo-political, and supply/demand rationale for current gas prices when the depth of the analysis during 2001-2008 was:
HIGH GAS PRICES = FAILED ENERGY POLICY
josef nix
April 27th, 2011
8:47 pm
Mick
“What about summa cum laude, does that carry any weight?”
Not with me…
josef nix
April 27th, 2011
8:49 pm
SoCo
In case you check in, hope your folks pull through okay…looks really bad up that way…
Mick
April 27th, 2011
8:50 pm
josef
Interesting, coming from a teacher. It’s a nice recognition for busting your arse off but I agree that the paper its printed on is pretty thin. There are plenty who finished last academically but have shone the brightest in their field…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 27th, 2011
8:53 pm
Well that went well….now its a social security number? Oirly be crazy.
Kamchak
April 27th, 2011
8:53 pm
I do remember the liberal media…
Liberal media?
Oy to the vey.
Mick
April 27th, 2011
8:54 pm
The birthers have mutated into……the afterbirthers…
Jack
April 27th, 2011
8:55 pm
O’Neill has an ax to grind.
Midori
April 27th, 2011
8:56 pm
LOL – Lawrence O’Donnell just kicked Orly off his show!!! She came to talk about Obama’s selective service card!!
Mick
April 27th, 2011
9:01 pm
**O’Neill has an ax to grind.**
Sure as hell does, he was 100% correct about those tax cuts, complete validation…
Dave R.
April 27th, 2011
9:04 pm
Amazing how the subject of the column gets changed when no one wants to step up and answer the simple question (including the world-famous dodger himself, the Bruin):
If Congress has failed to raise the debt ceiling multiple times when it should have been done, in some cases going months before finally raising it, why was there no outrage when it happened, and no economic meltdown following any of those times?
Explain to me why this time would be any different from those last times, when history shows it was no big deal.
Fainting couch, anyone?
TGT
April 27th, 2011
9:04 pm
“Debt ceiling foes are ‘al Qaeda terrorists,’” which, of course makes them prime candidates to be represented by the liberal left’s lawyer machine. In fact, one could probably get the Obama DOJ to represent them. As Andrew McCarthy points out, the Lawyer Left falls all over itself to defend the rights of terrorists, but “folded like a cheap tent” when it comes to traditional marriage.
josef nix
April 27th, 2011
9:05 pm
Mick
“The birthers have mutated into……the afterbirthers…”
Thass funny!
As far as all that summa cum laude stuff is concerned…it’s pretty much what you said…truth be told, it’s sort of embarassing…
josef nix
April 27th, 2011
9:06 pm
Oh, well, it’s been fun, but gotta check out…second day of testing tomorrow for the little ones…
Jay
April 27th, 2011
9:07 pm
Know It, if they blamed it on ObamaCare, then you and your employer got screwed and lied to. In addition, double-digit increases in health-care costs were coming just about every year before passage of that bill, as you probably recall.
LeeH1
April 27th, 2011
9:10 pm
Humph! I want to see Paul O’Neill’s birth certificate!
Besides, most Tea Party members don’t care. Grady Warren, a Tea Party member from Florida, is all for getting rid of taxes and hiring more contractors (with what, he doesn’t say!) See the Pride of Florida’s Tea at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDAodiAfi6U
Kamchak
April 27th, 2011
9:10 pm
Know It, if they blamed it on ObamaCare, then you and your employer got screwed and lied to.
An insurance company lied?
Say it ain’t so!
B
April 27th, 2011
9:14 pm
Kammy – you do know most of the mainstream media leans to left don’t you?
Kamchak
April 27th, 2011
9:16 pm
…you do know most of the mainstream media leans to left don’t you?
I know that you think so.
Midori
April 27th, 2011
9:16 pm
are you guys watching the weather map?
http://www.intellicast.com/Storm/Severe/WatchesWarnings.aspx?region=default
B
April 27th, 2011
9:16 pm
So it’s ok for Obamacare to cost so much since double digit increases were coming anyway?
Midori
April 27th, 2011
9:16 pm
Hi Kammy
Kamchak
April 27th, 2011
9:17 pm
Hiya, Midori!
B
April 27th, 2011
9:17 pm
You’d have to be a blind lib not to see it…..
AmVet
April 27th, 2011
9:19 pm
“Besides, most Tea Party members don’t care.”
Technically true, but…
Thirty percent of Tea Party supporters believe Mr. Obama was born in another country, despite ample evidence to the contrary. Another 29 percent say they don’t know.
59% of them can’t even admit the president is a US citizen???
The lunatic fringe’s lunatic fringe…
Kamchak
April 27th, 2011
9:20 pm
You’d have to be a
blind lib nottalk-radio programmed con toseebelieve it…..fyt.
I know it...You know it...The American People know it.
April 27th, 2011
9:21 pm
Mr Bookman- No, they didn’t officially blame the increases on ObamaCare but I personally think they did it to offset perceived future hits to their bottom line as a result of its passage. All other things being relatively equal in our particular situation, passage of ObamaCare was the only variable in this equation.
Nonetheless, the reality is that our costs have been increased, and I totally agree: we got screwed.
Midori
April 27th, 2011
9:21 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCbx7crVSG0
Tornado in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Holy crap!!!
Mick
April 27th, 2011
9:21 pm
I love the way some are trying to frame this birth certificate drama as a win for the trump, how does that work when obama proves the instigator wrong? Also, if we are playing this game, as a veteran, I would like to know why bush has never come clean with his whereabouts in the national guard during wartime in alabama?. Ironically, he would be the president to send guard units to his war of choice in iraq, many made the ultimate sacrifice….
RW-(the original)
April 27th, 2011
9:22 pm
Obamanomics illustrated
B
April 27th, 2011
9:24 pm
Kammy- no typo, I don’t do talk radio – not a fan of Hannity or Rush at all. I just call it as I see it.
Mick
April 27th, 2011
9:26 pm
rw
That was pretty lame. I’ll take something more clever, here’s one-
http://www.credoaction.com/comics/2011/04/two-guys-standing-on-an-incline/
Kamchak
April 27th, 2011
9:30 pm
I just call it as I see it.
Time for that long delayed trip to the optometrist.
getalife
April 27th, 2011
9:31 pm
Time to flush the con movement.
It is stinking up our country.
How is the weather?
Midori
April 27th, 2011
9:33 pm
Getalife
you see my weather map link above.
Wer’e gonna get hit good — I think sometime around midnight.
getalife
April 27th, 2011
9:36 pm
Midori,
Yeah, it looks bad.
It hammered Alabama.
B
April 27th, 2011
9:36 pm
Kammy – so if we had a republican in office that couldn’t speak without a teleprompter, couldn’t make up his mind on a foreign policy because he had to fill out his March madness bracket, and had more important things to do like make an appearance on Oprah, you believe it wouldn’t be the lead story on ABC, NBC, CBS and front page of the NYT?
Dave R.
April 27th, 2011
9:37 pm
Almost 2 hours since I first posted the question, and 30 minutes after I re-posted it.
Why the silence, libs?
Why do you have your panties in a wad over not raising the debt ceiling when history shows us it gets nothing but a yawn when done in the past?
Midori
April 27th, 2011
9:42 pm
have a read, B: http://www.bartcop.com/libmedia.htm
finn mccool
April 27th, 2011
9:42 pm
Boy these poor birthers have hasd a looooong day. They’re getting grumpy. Mwuahahahahahaha
getalife
April 27th, 2011
9:43 pm
Folks tend to ignore you cons dave.
Get used to it.
AmVet
April 27th, 2011
9:44 pm
More afterbirth mess…
In an interview airing Wednesday on CNN’s “John King, USA,” Trump asserted, “I don’t make up anything,” when asked about his earlier claims that Obama’s birth certificate could be missing. Still, he is undecided about paying for the sleuths he sent to Hawaii to investigate the issue.
“Would I pay them? I don’t know,” he said. “I can say this, let me just tell you, I don’t make up anything…I have done a great service to the American people.”
B, where do you come up with this nonsense?
Kamchak
April 27th, 2011
9:46 pm
…so if we had a…
In the world of “what ifs” all “what ifs” are created equal.
We could spend the whole blog one-upping each other with “what ifs.”
It’s why I don’t do “what ifs,” sport.
Bored now.
Ayn Rant
April 27th, 2011
9:46 pm
The GOP “deficit reduction plan” passed by the House requires lifting the debt ceiling, so why would Republicans balk at it?
The Republican debt ceiling posturers are not terrorists; they’re saboteurs!
Mick
April 27th, 2011
9:46 pm
dave r
Can you be more specific, as to when this has occurred in the past? If true, then why all the fuss? Don’t just blame “the libs”, the bankers have been quite vocal…
Dave R.
April 27th, 2011
9:47 pm
“Folks tend to ignore you cons dave.”
Yeah, because they don’t have the testicular fortitude needed to debate me.
Check out the nearest mirror if you don’t believe me, getaclue.
B
April 27th, 2011
9:48 pm
Kammy – again thanks so much for the kind words. Good night and God bless.
Kamchak
April 27th, 2011
9:49 pm
Ah — I see now.
Someone has a new sock-puppet.
getalife
April 27th, 2011
9:50 pm
dave,
Debating people that never admit they are dead wrong and apologize does not interest me.
No credibility is a false debate con.
Dave R.
April 27th, 2011
9:51 pm
“Can you be more specific, as to when this has occurred in the past?”
Been trying to, but Google is NOT my friend in this regard. There is no combination of words that I’ve used that doesn’t end up getting me to site after site and article after article about not raising it.
All I know is that there have been multiple Congressmen on TV over the past week claiming they were in Congress when it voted against raising the ceiling, and the big nothing that happened as a result of it.
So why all the poutrage now?
Dave R.
April 27th, 2011
9:54 pm
“Debating people that never admit they are dead wrong and apologize does not interest me.”
Since I haven’t ever been wrong in any discussion you’ve been part of, and have absolutely nothing to apologize for, your comment is once again devoid of facts. Every drive-by comment you make has been disproved by factual responses that are easily checked out by people with enough intelligence and intellectual curiosity to do so.
You lack both.
finn mccool
April 27th, 2011
9:54 pm
Get some sleep, birthers. We gonna be calling you fools again all day tomorrow too!
Mwuahahahahahah