Is a Mitch Daniels candidacy being ‘Trumped’?

The announcement by Haley Barbour that he will not seek the 2012 GOP presidential nomination was a bit of a disappointment, and I mean that seriously.

No, I don’t think Barbour would have made a good president, and I doubt he would even have been a top contender for the nomination. But he did have — how should I put this? — an appreciation for basic reality and seriousness that too many other candidates in the GOP field do not.

At one point in their careers, the same could have been said of Tim Pawlenty and Mitt Romney, but since those two former governors volunteered for Extreme Makeover, Political Edition, they’ve emerged almost unrecognizable and have repudiated their former selves. I’m not sure who they are anymore, and I’m not sure they know who they are.

The only remaining potential candidate with a firm grounding in this factual universe is Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels. While I wouldn’t vote for him against President Obama, I could certainly envision Daniels as president without fearing for the future of my country. And I can’t say that about the rest of the GOP field.

So I’m hoping Daniels runs, both for the good of the Republican Party and for the country, but he clearly has some misgivings. (He’s expected to announce his decision in the next week or two). I have to wonder whether Daniels’ misgivings might have increased in the last few weeks as he watched the clownish Donald Trump rise rapidly in the GOP polls.

Someone such as Daniels would be the anti-Trump, presumably unwilling to pander to the birtherism and Islamaphobia rampant on the right. Given the current environment, he has reason to question just how much of a market there might be for what he has to offer.

– Jay Bookman

435 comments Add your comment

arnold

April 26th, 2011
2:51 pm

I want Trump and Palin.

TaxPayer

April 26th, 2011
2:56 pm

My money’s on another McCain run. His new hail mary will be to offer Trump the VP slot.

BULLSEYE

April 26th, 2011
3:01 pm

Boss Hog and Palin

Logical Dude

April 26th, 2011
3:06 pm

Who’s Mitch Daniel?

Granny Godzilla

April 26th, 2011
3:07 pm

If Mitch Daniels really wants to be President he will not run until 2016.

Considering the Bush budgets and economic wreckage left behind, as former Bush budget director – Mr. Daniels has some “splainin” to do.

Logical Dude

April 26th, 2011
3:08 pm

Ah, Governor of Indiana. What about Jindal?

Ndependent

April 26th, 2011
3:08 pm

Boss Hog and Palin…

and Roscoe P. Coletrain as AG

Logical Dude

April 26th, 2011
3:09 pm

Unfortunately, Name recognition is needed right now, and he doesn’t have it, and Trump does.

All he needs to do is say something REALLY stupid and he’ll get the name recognition he’s looking for.

Peadawg

April 26th, 2011
3:10 pm

Damn Jay…kinda hoping you’d do an opinion piece on what Trump said about Obama not being suited for Ivy League. Funny stuff.

Logical Dude

April 26th, 2011
3:11 pm

Jay: The only remaining potential candidate with a firm grounding in this factual universe is Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels
Me: All he needs to do is say something REALLY stupid

Ooops, then he won’t be grounded in the factual universe anymore. I guess you just can’t win if you’re a very good moderate Republican who wants to do what’s best for the country!

USMC

April 26th, 2011
3:12 pm

“The only remaining potential candidate with a firm grounding in this factual universe is Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels.”–Jay Bookman

…Says the Leftwing Liberal who “hates” Republicans and Conservatives; just read his blog.

Mick

April 26th, 2011
3:13 pm

I guess someone who was busted with acid and weed in college can’t be all that bad, but then…bush’s budget director? Achilles heel….

Jay

April 26th, 2011
3:14 pm

Peadawg, nobody who thinks a hair arrangement like that is attractive can be taken seriously as a judge of another person’s intelligence.

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

April 26th, 2011
3:15 pm

Right now, I don’t want anybody to run. It’s too damned early to worry about the presidential election. I want our pols focused on governing through this year before worrying about next year. That’s our problem. We’re so focused on winning elections and getting “mandates through majorities” that we’re not even focused on doing what we’re supposed to do between elections.

You can’t blame the media and/or politicians without looking inside first. If we didn’t eat this sh*t sandwich whenever it’s served, they would quit serving it.

AmVet - A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

April 26th, 2011
3:16 pm

Moderate Republican?

Is that like Jumbo shrimp?

Or plastic glasses?

Two words have taken care of moderate Republicans (at least in any national leadership position) – Purity Test.

Peadawg

April 26th, 2011
3:16 pm

“Peadawg, nobody who thinks a hair arrangement like that is attractive can be taken seriously as a judge of another person’s intelligence.”

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nice…..

Bosch

April 26th, 2011
3:22 pm

presumably unwilling to pander to the birtherism and Islamaphobia rampant on the right.

I don’t know about that, Jay — it seems that have to be a given in the GOP land of all things bat shyte crazy. I used to think McCain was normal until he ran.

TaxPayer

April 26th, 2011
3:24 pm

Actually, what we need are even longer election cycles because they really work at redistributing some of the wealth and we need all the jobs we can get.

USMC

April 26th, 2011
3:24 pm

“Peadawg, nobody who thinks a hair arrangement like that is attractive can be taken seriously as a judge of another person’s intelligence.”

I will take proven success, leadership, and intellect over your Socialist, Lackey “Beauty” Contestant every day of the week.
We are witnessing the negative effects of no experience in the White House presently and EVERYONE knows it. (even Liberals, deep down, know how weak Obama is)

Obama is a “thin suit” protected by the “lame-stream” media & barking seal ideologues on local newspaper blogs, but he will lose in 2012; “pretty looks” and all.

Road Scholar

April 26th, 2011
3:26 pm

If the wind blows in a different direction, Trump would have to shift his position just to stand up! The hair will be like a sail!

McCain is done! The vacumn is there with no serious Repub candidadtes at this time. Please tell the American press the election does not start until next year! Maybe they’ll chase after Kadafy, Lohan, or some other slug!

Jay

April 26th, 2011
3:26 pm

Bosch, thus that word “presumably”

Kamchak

April 26th, 2011
3:27 pm

We are witnessing the negative effects of no experience in the White House presently and EVERYONE knows it.

You don’t have my permission to speak on my behalf, sport.

jm

April 26th, 2011
3:27 pm

No. Barbour getting out puts the odds of Daniels in going way up.

Trump will be a great foil for Daniels if Trump actually runs.

Jay

April 26th, 2011
3:28 pm

I hope you’re right, jm.

Bosch

April 26th, 2011
3:28 pm

“I will take proven success, leadership, and intellect (Obama) over your Socialist, Lackey “Beauty” Contestant (Trump) every day of the week.

Me too.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jay,

No doubt.

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

April 26th, 2011
3:29 pm

Maybe this is why no “Moderate” Republican has thrown or will throw their hat into the ring:

Obama revealed: A moderate Republican

If you put aside the emergency measures required by the financial crisis, three major policy ideas have dominated American politics in recent years: a plan that uses an individual mandate and tax subsidies to achieve near-universal health care; a cap-and-trade plan that attempts to raise the prices of environmental pollutants to better account for their costs; and bringing tax rates up from their Bush-era lows as part of a bid to reduce the deficit. In each case, the position that Obama and the Democrats have staked out is the very position that moderate Republicans have staked out before.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/obama-revealed-a-moderate-republican/2011/04/25/AFPrGfkE_story.html

I’ve always had the opinion that the political center is fixed, and the extremes stretch farther and farther out, but maybe I’ve been wrong. Either that, or the fact that what’s considered “Liberal” today was Center-Right 20 years ago shows why our political system is so far out of balance today.

TnGelding

April 26th, 2011
3:29 pm

Not much demand for that sentiment among the GOP faithful. But he’s tainted by his dealings in the Bush administation that led to what were considered huge deficits then. So I’m not sure he understands fully how our economy is supposed to work and what we need to do to fix it.

jm

April 26th, 2011
3:29 pm

And also, everyone will have to go through a dance to win. Daniels may even succumb some too, though that is less likely.

I’d take Romney or Pawlenty as well, they’re just fine, sane, level headed people having to contend with the gauntlet of the primaries (which Obama did too, think of all the BS he spewed out during the primaries).

Road Scholar

April 26th, 2011
3:30 pm

USMC: “We are witnessing the negative effects of no experience in the White House …”

So, who do you propose to run in each party? Repubs: Cheney? Quayle? Jeb Bush (he was in the white house, but …)?
Demos: Clinton (pick one)?

jm

April 26th, 2011
3:31 pm

Current Politico.com thinking is the only person able to round up most of the Barbour $, which was pragmatist wonky big donor money, is Daniels.

Bosch

April 26th, 2011
3:31 pm

“Obama revealed: A moderate Republican”

SoCo,

That’s what I’ve always seen him as.

“Either that, or the fact that what’s considered “Liberal” today was Center-Right 20 years ago shows why our political system is so far out of balance today.”

Yeap, I used to be “the conservative” amongst my friends. Go figure that.

Kamchak's Squrriel

April 26th, 2011
3:32 pm

Where you been lately? I’ve missed you.

Granny Godzilla

April 26th, 2011
3:32 pm

“We are witnessing the negative effects of no experience in the White House presently and EVERYONE knows it”

Ah, Nope

So much for that whole “honor” code.

Kamchak's Squrriel

April 26th, 2011
3:33 pm

“Obama revealed: A moderate Republican”

Yup and Hannity and Rush are moderate Democrats.

Bosch

April 26th, 2011
3:34 pm

No, Mr. Squirrel, they are just nuts.

straitroad

April 26th, 2011
3:34 pm

Jay,

You seem like a nice guy but I can’t understand how you got to where you are politically and how you apply logic on a daily basis. I don’t mean that as a slam, I just cannot see how anyone with any sense at all could support Obama as our president. I started out voting for democrats but changed once I became more educated and wiser. What is it that makes Obama seem like a competent leader to you?

Peadawg

April 26th, 2011
3:34 pm

“Obama revealed: A moderate Republican”

Yup and Hannity and Rush are moderate Democrats.”

:lol:

TnGelding

April 26th, 2011
3:35 pm

Let’s strip the presidency of some of the perks NOW! And inject a little realism into what to expect from a mere human.

Bosch

April 26th, 2011
3:37 pm

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/cern-physics-lab-downplays-925235.html

Well, hell, if they’d just read Dan Brown’s book, they’d have saved themselves alot of trouble.

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

April 26th, 2011
3:38 pm

Road Scholar

I’ve always thought that the only person with experience going into the office of the president was either a sitting president or vp getting elected as president. Other than that, nobody has experience in the White House as president.

Bosch

That’s why I don’t see myself as a fit for either party. The parameters have shifted so much today, that I don’t think I should have to change who I am just to belong. If either party wants me, they should adapt to suit me, and not the other way around. The current GOP doesn’t appear to even desire that type of adaptability as moderates are labeled RINO and shunned. The Democratic Party appears to be a better fit in this day and time, but I refuse to join as I wish to remain independent.

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

April 26th, 2011
3:39 pm

No, Mr. Squirrel, they are just nuts.

:lol:

Billybob

April 26th, 2011
3:41 pm

To all you people out there that are not as smart as me(ie. republicans),
Your leading candidates don’t know themselves at all and I don’t agree with anything you say. Therefore, you guys would be lucky to have a guy like Mitch Daniels whom I completely disagree with and whom I would never vote for, but whom I think is at least not a racist(like most other republicans are). Yours truly………………jay bookman
‘just thought i would give the cliff notes’ and point out that in 2012 people will not let the media pick out the conservatives’ candidate for President……but keep trying bookman, you are doing great!

josef nix

April 26th, 2011
3:41 pm

I made the mistake of listening to Trump on Anderson Cooper last p.m. That fellow is crazy and a clear and present danger if anyone can take him seriously. Barbour? Say what you will, he ain’t nobody’s fool and he knows that he’s worth a lot more as a kingmaker. Not to mention, he’s Ole Greenwood’s descendent by more than blood. He knows how to cut a deal to benefit himself and his cronies…

Granny Godzilla

April 26th, 2011
3:43 pm

Daniels may be a problem for some on the right –
he is Syrian-American.

Billy

April 26th, 2011
3:43 pm

Obama = Jimmy Carter !!!!!

josef nix

April 26th, 2011
3:43 pm

Obama…a moderate Republican…

Yep. Another reason I didn’t vote for him…

Bosch

April 26th, 2011
3:44 pm

Hi ya’ josef! How are things in your world?

max

April 26th, 2011
3:45 pm

It’s amazing how clownish liberals will no real grasp of GOP politics continue to spout off predictions and ignorant statements about things they know nothing about.

josef nix

April 26th, 2011
3:45 pm

Granny

Oh, I doubt that…Arab Americans in the main are and have been in the conservative corner…

Bosch

April 26th, 2011
3:45 pm

And HI MRS. G!!! [hands waving]

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 26th, 2011
3:45 pm

Peadawg, nobody who thinks a hair arrangement like that is attractive can be taken seriously as a judge of another person’s intelligence.

Jay, I dont’ know about that. I think Donald’s assessment of Reagan as a Con Man who couldn’t deliver the goods was a pretty on spot.

I guess it goes to show…. you can fool some of the people some of the times, but you can really fool conservatives all of the time.

Road Scholar

April 26th, 2011
3:45 pm

Southern Comfort: I share your opinion (and will drink to that) but we don’t always have that luxury. The only other choices are a long term senator, a retired general, or a strong middle of the road governor. I still think that a President builds strength and “power” from the people he selects for his cabinent.

jm

April 26th, 2011
3:45 pm

Daniels is the best hope for someone who can make this country work again….

AmVet - A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

April 26th, 2011
3:45 pm

“I started out voting for democrats but changed once I became more educated and wiser.”

straitroad, same here.

Now, given the opportunity, I will try to find good choices among Independents, Greens, Libertarians, etc.

But with a few exceptions, I will not vote for Republicans. Not in this abysmal, disastrous state that that hijacked party is in.

Sadly, to me, the once Grand Old Party is still the worst of the worst. And has been since Reagan.

And apparently will be until most of these fake conservatives and party apparatchiks die off.

Then perhaps we will get some real conservative choices and once again the GOP will be a good option. (BTW, Dr. Paul is a tiny sliver of light in a very dark mess.)

It’s good to have a dream!

williamuga1

April 26th, 2011
3:45 pm

Jay, I am shocked, shocked,shocked that you would not vote for a
Rebublican. Obama has made such a wonderful President. Just think about all that hope and change. I guess that he just needs $ more years to fully get it done.

josef nix

April 26th, 2011
3:46 pm

Bosch…

Much as they are in Miz B’s…tomorrow starts our tour of the Fifth Circle of Dante’s Inferno! :-)

Billybob

April 26th, 2011
3:46 pm

you fishing granny?

Bosch

April 26th, 2011
3:48 pm

josef,

Reason I asked — I avoid the OB at all costs during these three weeks. Eeeek.

jm

April 26th, 2011
3:48 pm

As people say, when voters are unhappy, they vote against the most outstanding trait of their current elected official. Well, Obama the pragmatist has really been proven to be Obama the idealist without any real governing and business experience.

Mitch Daniels is the real opposite of Obama. A guy who has run a state very well over the last 8 years, adhering to conservative economic principles. He has real Federal government experience, and he has prior business experience and understands how economics, the free market, the global economy, and business works.

You want a guy who can get our economy on the right track? Daniels is that guy. If he fails, then it means we’re toast because it suggests that the inertia and built in Federal spending mechanisms are unstoppable.

Granny Godzilla

April 26th, 2011
3:48 pm

Hi Bosch

Waving back at ya’.

Hope all is well with you and yours.

josef nix

the problem is not the conservative corner….it’s the radical back porch…

Road Scholar

April 26th, 2011
3:48 pm

Max; At least liberals limit themselves to one topic to allegedly be stupid about! I mean since we are handing out insults!

Sothern Comfort: Would you consider yourself a financially conservative moderate?

getalife

April 26th, 2011
3:49 pm

Keep yelling at them for voting to end Medicare cons.

Stand up.

Bosch

April 26th, 2011
3:49 pm

“Just think about all that hope and change”

This is just an observation of mine, but what is it with the wingnuts and their obsession with that campaign slogan?

josef nix

April 26th, 2011
3:50 pm

GG

“the problem is not the conservative corner….it’s the radical back porch…”

Yep. There is that….

Joe Cool

April 26th, 2011
3:51 pm

Whats going to happen for 2012 is that NO Republicans will run! :-)

They are really testing the waters for 2016! They dont want to run up against a 1 billion dollar machine!

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

April 26th, 2011
3:51 pm

I still think that a President builds strength and “power” from the people he selects for his cabinent.

I think that’s only part of it, but I agree with you. I also keep an eye on “advisors” as they are the one’s who are close to the decision making too. I didn’t care for picks that the previous two presidents made in some areas.

For those who didn’t read the Ezra Klein post I linked to, it has a rather interesting theory, and one that I agree with, on why the parties have shifted to the right.

Bosch

April 26th, 2011
3:52 pm

For instance, I just looked up Bush’s campaign slogan (I had to because it just didn’t stick in my head):

Yes! America Can!!

My, oh my, what we could have done with that back in the day. The opportunities we missed….sigh….

Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

April 26th, 2011
3:53 pm

Would you consider yourself a financially conservative moderate?

For the most part, yes. There are exceptions, as with anything, but I don’t like to mess around or play games with financial matters.

USMC

April 26th, 2011
3:53 pm

“The only remaining potential candidate with a firm grounding in this factual universe is Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels.”–Jay Bookman

This sounds like the same “Love Affair” that Jay Bookman and the other Leftwing Liberals had with John McCain back in 2000 & 2004.

Dave R.

April 26th, 2011
3:55 pm

“While I wouldn’t vote for him against President Obama, I could certainly envision Daniels as president without fearing for the future of my country.”

As opposed to the rest of us who already fear for the future of this country based on the least qualified person to ever sit in the Oval Office – President Hope & Punt ™.

Mighty Righty

April 26th, 2011
3:55 pm

I don’t care for any of the Republicans but I will vote with the majority in 2012 for any over the empty suit now residing in the White House.

wet wiccan

April 26th, 2011
3:56 pm

This is off topic, but I thought this was kind of funny and wanted to share (smile)

http://strengthensocialsecurity.org/dont-make-us-work-til-we-die

Joe Cool

April 26th, 2011
3:56 pm

Trump is a RINO.
Guess he didnt tell you guys he gave Rhaum $50,000 for his mayors bid.

OPPS!

USMC

April 26th, 2011
3:56 pm

“Daniels is the best hope for someone who can make this country work again….”

Not that I am against Daniels, but we heard the same thing about Obama/ Hope & Change, etc.

Road Scholar

April 26th, 2011
3:56 pm

USMC: 2000 yes, 2004 yes, 2008 no!

Dave R.

April 26th, 2011
3:57 pm

“This is just an observation of mine, but what is it with the wingnuts and their obsession with that campaign slogan?”

Because Hope is not a strategy, and Change isn’t always good?

Road Scholar

April 26th, 2011
3:57 pm

Southern Comfort: Ditto

DublDawg

April 26th, 2011
3:58 pm

Imagine that, Bookman is not going to vote for a more qualified Republican over Obama. Astonishing!

Dave R.

April 26th, 2011
3:59 pm

“Guess he didnt tell you guys he gave Rham $50,000 for his mayors bid.”

No RINO. Rahm’s brother is Trump’s agent.

Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)

April 26th, 2011
3:59 pm

“While I wouldn’t vote for him against President Obama, I could certainly envision Daniels as president without fearing for the future of my country. And I can’t say that about the rest of the GOP field.”

Jay will, however, vote for Obama without fearing for the future of the country. His motto must be: Ask not what Obama can do for you, ask instead what you can do for Obama. Albeit limited in span of influence, Jay has certainly been doing the best he can for his role model.

USMC

April 26th, 2011
4:00 pm

“This is just an observation of mine, but what is it with the wingnuts and their obsession with that campaign slogan?”

I totally agree, the Liberal wingnuts came out of the closet from all over to vote for Hope and change without knowing what “Hope and Change” was…

Unbelievable!

Road Scholar

April 26th, 2011
4:00 pm

Dubl: Define “a more qualified Republican ” .

jm

April 26th, 2011
4:01 pm

I’d love to see Daniels go toe to toe with Donald Trump. He’d put the guy in his place.

BMDPD

April 26th, 2011
4:02 pm

jm

April 26th, 2011
4:03 pm

USMC 3:56 – all style, no substance behind the veneer.

USMC

April 26th, 2011
4:04 pm

“I don’t care for any of the Republicans but I will vote with the majority in 2012 for any over the empty suit now residing in the White House.”-Mighty Whitey

BINGO! That is the answer to the $64,000 question…

It won’t matter who the Republican candidate is… Obama is TOAST and will LOSE regardless. They will desperately put Hillary Clinton in as VP and still LOSE. Tick Tock, Tick Tock…

Steve

April 26th, 2011
4:05 pm

Jay,

Obama has no business experience…9 months experience in the Senate and his claim to fame was being “a community organizer”.

Most Walmart Greeters have better experience than the current knucklehead.

getalife

April 26th, 2011
4:07 pm

The President has almost one term of experience.

He will not end Medicare.

josef nix

April 26th, 2011
4:08 pm

jm

Put him in his place…what IS his place…?

Joe Cool

April 26th, 2011
4:08 pm

Thats the best you got “steve”

Even after all you said, The Muslim, Marxist, Kenyan, Indonesian, Illegal Alien still won. How you like them apples.

Kamchak

April 26th, 2011
4:08 pm

It won’t matter who the Republican candidate is… Obama is TOAST and will LOSE regardless.

Whistling past the graveyard.

bart

April 26th, 2011
4:09 pm

Daniels is the strongest candidate the GOP could nominate. Of course, that means he won’t even come close to getting the nomination shouldd he run. He’s too reasonable.

joe

April 26th, 2011
4:09 pm

“fearing for the future of my country” Is exactly what you get with a 2nd term Obama and his socialist, elitist, entitlement, bailout, free healthcare, free everything attacks on our capitalistic, freedom loving way of life. God help us if he gets re-elected…our currency will crash, we will go bankrupt and what gas there is will be $10 per gallon.

josef nix

April 26th, 2011
4:10 pm

USMC
@ 4:04

Methinks that may be colored by a tint of wishful thinking…at least as it stands at present…

carlosgvv

April 26th, 2011
4:10 pm

I do not see any of the current potential Republican candidates showing any appreciation for basic reality and seriousness. Unfortunately, Obama isn’t showing any of this either. Keep this in mind, Jay, the next time you are tempted to lecture us about the sorry candidates we elect. We can only vote for those on the ballot, no matter how mediocre they are.

Fletch

April 26th, 2011
4:10 pm

I love how you all seriously think Bush was to blame for the global economic woes we found/find ourselves in. To put this a way that you might understand: it’s like blaming global climate change on spray deoderant.

Dave R.

April 26th, 2011
4:12 pm

“The President has over one term of woeful, disastrous experience.

He will not end Medicare.”

Fixed your typo, getaclue. And why do you continue to lie about Paul Ryan “ending” Medicare, when Politifact gave that claim it’s lowest rating of “Pants on fire”?

getalife

April 26th, 2011
4:12 pm

A gop official states she has seen the President’s official birth certificate to put that vast rw conspiracy to rest.

You cons should apologize.

jm

April 26th, 2011
4:13 pm

josef nix 4:08 – back in his palatial condo

TaxPayer

April 26th, 2011
4:13 pm

Paul Ryan’s the obvious choice. After all, he wants to end Medicare. That’s got to be good for a few votes, right.