Travelin’ to Graceland, Graceland, Graceland Tennessee

Jay, I thought you were going to Graceland. Nice selection.

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Alright!! Played at my husband’s funeral – as he would have wanted!

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Good song. Gotta go eat some congressmen for a snackie. Starving…..

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Holy Bleep, it’s been 25 years?????? Now I feel old. . .

Otherwise, you can Call me Al!

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Good choice, Jay. How ’bout the next one up.

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OH NOES! NOT THE ILK CARD!

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Jay:

If you have the time (or the inclination) please see my 3:48 on the below thread.

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Now that I think about it, it is timeless!

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Peadawg, it’s OK we’re not ageists here!

This one popped into my head earlier today.

Here’s a sweet rendition of it…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBunv3LSaQA&feature=fvst

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Just remember……..le petit caporal spelled backward is laropac titep el.

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Nice. Coincides with his first album in five years. “So Beautiful So What.’

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Man, I remember that album like it was yesterday. Ladysmith Black Mambazo made that one a truly unique treat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAd_n2bR8qI

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This is nuts. PLEASE take a look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=qybUFnY7Y8w

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Well, you need to take them and appreciate them as they come Kam. As for impressing me, you failed at that long ago.

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Always feel like Simon and Garfunkel was one of those situations where the whole was better than the sum of the parts. Don’t get any better than this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-PNun-Pfb4

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Hillbilly:

Love that song! They harmonized well.

I’ve been missin’ ya…checkin’ in on the baby birds wishin’ it was in color. Black and white don’t show no blue.

(ISH)

Gotta get goin’.

Have fun!

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Mr. Hillbilly Deluxe

That song is a defining song for 69-70, because it was a good song but also because they played the hell out of it all day long, that can’t happen anymore and maybe that’s a good thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0uO5RKI-S8

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Well, folks, I surely will not rain on your parade. It’s just that I don’t care for this kind of music.

You see, last night at Maundy Thursday service, the choir sang so beautifully and together like a gentle ocean lulling the shore to the peace of a quiet embrace. So nice and the message with it.

So, if I don’t get back anytime soon, have a lovely Easter and all the peace and joy that go with it. It is a wonderful weekend indeed..with a message for all time. That’s Easter…..

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AmVet

“Getting a tad sleepy in here.”

Still working, click on the new offerings as they pop up.

Travelin’ Music expands my horizons.

Dusty

For you. And me. And whoever –

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Mp9qmjfQQ

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzYu4JsUyJ0

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http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=135047046&m=135018356

Go there for Paul Simon’s latest effort in its entirety. Thank NPR with your donation

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lil barry bummer

You need some medication
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzHtm1jhL4

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@Lil Barry

You do not read well and forget easily. Your statement is specious, at best.

For all those so-called conservatives who complained about GM and the bailout they received, it appears the loan was a good investment.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gm_back_on_top

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Jackie – very good news on a good friday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQVz6vuNq7s

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Good selection Jay…

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Or as it’s come to be known, the Kamchak Boner Card.

No, that would be Sarah Shahi

But thank you for your attention in that matter, albeit in a creepy stalkerish kinda way.

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mr. amvet

For back in the day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFy-yzj02FE

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Wishing …..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1ctz2jT8l8

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Still my all-time favorite Simon and Garfunkel — sorry I know the thread is Paul Simon — give a listen.

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it might be too early for this but what the hey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xshh1Pn4KYA&feature=fvst

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Next to favorite S & G song!

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This blog?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1DWdexSO9M

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In the late sixties, early seventies I went on a “road trip” a la Jack Kerouac. I went from Atlanta to Canada to the Outer Banks to Memphis and many other places. That’s why my post at 7:02 is so special to me. I’m still amazed at the many kind and accommodating people I met then. I especially remember the old trucker who picked me up in Wilkes-Barre, PA at 2:00. (I had been waiting for hours for a ride) I think he had taken a couple of “bennies” so he had an advantage on me, but I stayed up and talked him for hours. What a great guy!

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Poor Barry,

Just as clueless as he is the other six and half days a week…

Look inside,
Look inside your tiny mind
Now look a bit harder
Cause we’re so uninspired,
so sick and tired of all the
hatred you harbor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYAG8_nd-N4&feature=fvst

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OMG I just saw this video about this guy singing at a McD (or it could be a comedy club) and it is appalling what happens. The thuggery. Why I bet the thug will be glad to by that girlie lil bar a drink. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPDkjtboDIM.

Boo,

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How about a little multi-denominational, apolitical, non-specific all encompassing music.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI4O8byPw7g

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Who could forget?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&feature=related&hl=iw&v=xDowukLSHp4

Happy Easter, everybody!

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Happy Easter. I know I’m gonna enjoy mine.

What can I say. They were sold out of bunnies.

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I think this is what we just witnessed….

http://community.o2online.ie/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/776iCF42AAD58117EC7D/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1

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Jay: what is it that fixates you about things like that?
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The aspects of it that aren’t random.

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So Co 7:57

Very well done, sir!

(wish I’d found that first)

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This has absolutely nothing to do with Graceland, Paul Simon, or politics. Sometimes, I just think I’m surrounded by numpties…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WElvEZj0Ltw

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Here’s another by Mr. Ben Sollee that I enjoy.

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A superb cover of a superb song…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OUCpKzMAbQ

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Yeah, me too Sooth!

Before he struck out on his own, Todd Rundgren was in a band called the Nazz.

Here the Bangles cover one of their semi-hits…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erC9qkaOHnk

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I adored this Paul Simon (co-)composed bit of 60s pop when I was a wee lad and it was atop the charts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcdPPd9nEwQ

ok, maybe it doesn’t hold up all that well.

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Well, good night! everyone. I hope you all have a wonderful Easter weekend! I hope that you all remember the significance of this Most Holy of all Sundays — the day Our Saviour Died for the Sins of the World! And died so that you might have everlasting life in Heaven if you only shall believe that Jesus died on the cross for your sins. Think about it!

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Stands: what a great post! Haven’t that in years. Like you that was one of my favs. Thanks for posting it! Good night, all!

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Not long afterward he was at a black college and the students were accusing him of racism because he was white and “Stevie Wonder could have done it”. As he defended himself from these attacks, the students gave him looks of pure hatred

since someone needs to say it–what a stupid [bleep]ing thing to bring up.

simon got a little pushback. He pushed back. He got his props and then some, from all kinds of folks.

jeez.

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stands

That song was one of many that bring back sweet memories of my youth, it holds up in that respect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skydln4BhDI

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Since the theme is people re-inventing themselves, Tommy James was another who did that. He went through several phases, from pure pop to psychedelic. Alex Cooley, who was THE promoter in Atlanta at one time, said James looked at music as purely a business. He was going to play whatever was selling at the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkMFLUXTEwM

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Dollar’s Decline Speeds Up, With Risks for U.S.

The U.S. dollar’s downward slide is accelerating as low interest rates, inflation concerns and the massive federal budget deficit undermine the currency.

With no relief in sight for the dollar on any of those fronts, the downward pressure on the dollar is widely expected to continue.
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Change.

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I went to many shows Alex Cooley promoted at the old Omni.

Alex Cooley and 96 Rock presents the good Rush:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNZru4JG_Uo

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For the little boy in all of you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mhzknah8fo

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How ’bout some Bush.

No. Not that Bush.

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AmVet,

I agree about the Omni but don’t remember much about the concerts.

I do remember watching Nirvana trash the stage for about the whole show with Courtney holding the baby and shaking her head.

The Fox Theater was the place to see shows. One of the best was Soundgarten Superunkown concert where they played the whole Album and it sounded perfect.

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Another sweet Glenn Campbell song.

Not just because it is so damn fine, but I’m partial to it as it references the city of my birth…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HFCuBLAjXo&feature=relmfu

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As we wait….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lALj7VG9960&feature=related

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Hard to believe that first 7:02 is just peachy keen, but the recipient of that vile. name calling was the one that got threatened with the banning stick.

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Graceland might be 25 years old, but it’s timeless and one of my all time favorites. Good call Jay B.

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This is where the Demoncrats need to be taken:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_mUz3RWKHQ

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Earth Day Ends Obama’s 53,300 Gallon Trip

President Obama declared today’s 41st annual Earth Day proof of America’s ecological and conservation spirit—then completed a three-day campaign-style trip logging 10,666 miles on Air Force One, eating up some 53,300 gallons at a cost of about $180,000. And that doesn’t include the fuel consumption of his helicopter, limo, or the 29 other vehicles that travel with that car.

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Drive-by’s are so passé.

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When I got out of the Navy, the first time, I took a trip on my Triumph Bonneville around the country, trying to get my head back on straight…I heard a song…and I went looking, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO3gWIGzH3A&feature=related

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One of the best albums evah!! Can’t believe it’s been 25 years. This album played almost non-stop in my home the first few years of my marriage….maybe that’s why I have so many kids!!

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I took a big rock in the windshield of my truck yesterday on 285. I’m waiting for the repair man so I just naturally thought of this song…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5LnpErE6f4

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And the alternative to lifting the debt ceiling?

Another comeback crooner:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCDcp5xwNFA

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Go Donald,
You have no Idea. That song was my theme song for a lot of years. Thanks for the memories.
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Now, a solution for our country I’d like to see…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8yzcN2VinI&feature=related

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Tn,
A little insight into Normal’s mind. Your Dean Martin song got me to thinking about a song he and Ricky Nelson did together, which got me thinking about a song Ricky did way back, but the song came up with Willie doing it. Instead I picked Willie singing the one I posted above, because I liked it, but now…after a round about in Normal’s brain…may I present Ricky Nelson and a “holy” bucket…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGsEBP3tpxM&feature=related

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Good Saturday morning, all.

Though to me, she is drop dead gorgeous, hugely talented and has the voice of a songbird, I’ve never been that much of a fan of her style of music.

But the vocal power and emotion she pours into this XTC song is stunning.

(Warning for all you overly sensitive Christian types, you may want to give this one a pass…)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrueVp_kuZ8&feature=related

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Go,

!!

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AmVet:

We’re ALL aware of your anti-Christian sentiments. Really, dude, it no longer carries the exclusivity and shock value that you’d like to believe. You’re one of many and I couldn’t care less.

That ^^^ in and of itself, is very un-Christian of ME!!! Your non-belief doesn’t matter anymore so quit wearing it (the badge) as though it makes you a man among men. It’s so sixties.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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AmVet:

And YOU responded to MY post.

DING DING!

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AmVet,
Yeah, Paige did morph, but I always like Ricky’s attitude…He helped me focus on the truth…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnnylCWn33Y

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garden party, another great song, going undercover
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzVkzBp7kO8

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amvet – good workout song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D4YYI8G5EM

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Gotta go, enjoyed it while it lasted…keep it cool, ,y’all…

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To all Angels ‘trying’ in this hostile world..Malaika
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khvj_woF64A&feature=related

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn9-2ErlTi0 (@ 1:35 mark !!)

Headline: “Female GIs get better uniforms” (Make those tank treads a little lighter also as they are very hard to relplace in sub-zero weather.)

“Female troops test new combat uniform designed to replace the ‘unisex’ uniforms designed around men’s bodies.

I wonder if the gay men get to pick the women’s uniforms and the lesbians the men’s uniforms. Lord knows what the transvestite uniforms will look like.

Headline: “GOP Tries to Slow Down or Stall Don’t Ask Don’t Tell Repeal”

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@@ & AmVet

You are so cute, you know that?

oh, an AmVet, true too on Shelly Fabares. Annette, not so much. But Shelly, yeah –

Off to get ready for Easter with family.

Pleasant weekend, all -

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Obama: Gas Price Solution Lies in Renewable Energy Sources

Can we survive two more years of this clown?

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“Ex-U.N. nuclear inspector: Investigate Bush team for war crimes”

No wonder they are hiding in their bunkers.

Thanks for the high gas prices cons.

Carter was right, you need to admit this fact and fight for alternatives or get out of the way.

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God bless you with His peace & Joy this Easter and in the days to come.

Let the grace of the Lord be the measure of your sufficiency;
let the peace of the Lord be the measure of your quietness;
let the power of the Lord be the measure of your strength;
let the goodness of the Lord be the measure of your contentment;
let the love of the Lord be the measure of your service;
let the faithfulness of the Lord be the measure of your trust;
let the beauty of the Lord be the measure of your worship;
let the fullness of the Lord be the measure of your joy;
let the sovereignty pf the Lord be the measure of your expectations;
let the coming of the Lord be the measure of hope.

You are my portion, O Lord. Psalm 119:57NKJ

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“That’s why I disagree so strongly with a proposal in Congress that cuts our investments in clean energy by 70 percent.”President Obama

The gop want you to pay higher gas prices.

Thanks for the high gas prices cons.

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Since there was no first 7:02, you were perchance referring to my 7:01?

Lighten up, Francis. There was a first 7:02 when I made the comment but it’s been quietly removed. Presumably by our host.

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Thanks for the workout tune, Go.

This is a great one for doing modified pushups…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzuRw0ZqQdU&feature=related

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getalife

April 23rd, 2011
12:27 pm
“Ex-U.N. nuclear inspector: Investigate Bush team for war crimes”

No wonder they are hiding in their bunkers.

Thanks for the high gas prices cons.

Carter was right, you need to admit this fact and fight for alternatives or get out of the way.

Getalife, Bush isn’t President anymore Obama is, just thought I’d mention that.

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Go Donald Go :

I don’t know what your military background is my friend but I fear you have much to learn.

1) If that tank tread ain’t replaced quickly that tank doesn’t move and your a** ain’t covered.
2) If that soldier next to you is not strong enough to pick you up with all your gear (and his) and get you out of the line of fire your a** ain’t covered.
3) If that co-pilot shot down with you is not strong enough to slit a throat so your hiding position won’t be given away your a** ain’t covered.
I think you get the picture.

90% of war is supply, support and administration. 10% is infantry combat. Of that last 10% ……….. 80 to 90% of it involves shooting at someone. The remaining small percentage involves vicious hand to hand combat you probably can’t even imagine and a place where women are not qualified.

Remember, the “hand to hand” combat training at a military base (not so rough as to actually get someone hurt) is totally differrent from that with a crazed enemy combatant fightiing for his life.

If a female soldier has to shoot her rilfe at the enemy from an ambushed truck convoy bringing a beer supply to the front line troops, that’s the military’s fault for putting her there in that situation.

The combat arms designations are no place for women. That kind of political correctness just gets good people killed.

Notice why there are no women playing in the NFL? Isn’t that a little discriminatory?

(P.S. Start about the 2 min. mark and let’s get a female in there for this knife fight)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuxpSSJBwW0

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Women scare scout.

pp,

The consequences of the w disaster are ongoing.

You cons wanted to give big oil Iraqi oil and voted to give them 53 billion more in welfare.

You and your party gave us high gas prices after wasting trillions of our money.

You cons are trying to destroy your own country.

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Get a life, multiple postings: “Thanks for the high gas prices cons.”

We had two years of a Democratic House, Senate, and Presidency, and a Democratic House & Senate since 2007. Republicans took control of the House, and only the House in January–the Senate and the President are still Democrats.

What, pray tell, have conservative–out of power for several years now (and even the Republican House has essentially no power at this stage to push an agenda)–done to impact gas prices?

Today’s higher gas prices are a result of:
* higher than normal levels of unrest in the Mideast, esp. Libya
* QE2 (weaker dollar)
* recovery from the recession increasing demand world wide

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Southern Comfort (aka The Man) :

Unlike some others on here, thanks for your reasoned response.

A couple of problems I see:

1) As to your first point you are correct. There are a few women (a genetic test may be in order) out there who could possibly have won that knife fight. I’m thinking of some of these female wrestlers, body builders, I think they are starting Women’s Olympic wrestling now, etc., etc.

However, what happens is because of those very, very, very, few (who probably want nothing to do with the military anyway) you open up a door to women who are flat not qualified. They may look it, talk it, and practice it in little war games on base ……………… but not the real deal.

Again, I challenge you to find me the best female linebacker in the United States and let’s see if she can play in the NFL.

2) As to the video, police work is NOT combat. Now before you or anyone else get all worked up …………. I have done both. Here’s the difference.

A) In police work you do not kill “to kill”. You may use only the restraint or force necessary to complete the arrest or stop the unlawful action. More and you get sued, fired and/or prosecuted.

It goes like this and the decision usually has to be made in seconds:

Presence
Verbal Command
Soft Hands
Hard Hands
Chemical Weapons
Taser Weapons
Impact Weapons
Deadly Force

And you NEVER say on the witness stand that you shot to “kill” the bank robber. No ……… you say you “shot to rendered the individual incapable of continuing the action which prompted you to shoot.”

Bottom line: There are a lot of men who do not belong in the military combat arms and you usually only find out when it’s too late and lives are lost. Adding women to that equation would be a disaster.

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Scout

I see your point. However, I’m also aware that the human mind is capable of pushing our bodies beyond what we think we’re capable of doing. Adrenaline, for one, doesn’t discriminate between male and female bodies, and you always find stories of people doing unimaginable things while hopped up on it. Years ago, I probably would have agreed with you. Now, I think it’s more dependent upon the individual person as opposed to the sex. There are many men who probably couldn’t handle combat and/or police work.

Catch y’all later. Time to go have some fun with the lil one…

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Southern Comfort:

I hear you but 99+% of men can’t handle professional football either so let’s don’t throw women into the equation. We could force each NFL to have two women for each team on the field for each play but the game just wouldn’t be the same now would it ?

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The Corporal Scout ponders his belly button, still trying to figure out if it is an innie or outie, no doubt, and manages to dump these fine thoughts on us in the process:

I wonder if the gay men get to pick the women’s uniforms and the lesbians the men’s uniforms. Lord knows what the transvestite uniforms will look like.

Then, he gets his panties in a wad when he fails tho get only the most reasoned and serious comments in response.

Thanks for the humor, Corporal Scout.

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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/lifestyle/holidays/april_2011/78_believe_jesus_christ_was_the_son_of_god

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I’m a Believer and you can be too.

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I’m late to the Paul Simon party, but fondly remember this number from my Jersey days, driving around in the winter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_H-LY4Jb2M

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Little Barry,
Prozac and therapy is your friend…

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To Graceland then with two incredible spirits..Miriam and Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB26L8nbRiw

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Let’s wait and see what gas is selling for on election day 2012.

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Now, now guys — Lil Barry just has been partaking too much tiger’s blood.

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TnG…

I’ll drink to that. It is time for him to quit being Mr. Nice Guy.

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After all the losses to get Iraqi oil and 53 more billion in welfare, lil w bailout blames Obama for high gas prices.

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Well, I hope all you music maniacs are happy. This blog’s as dull as the Rev. Postlewaite’s sermons. One of which I got to set thru tomorrow morning. I guess you swapping music gives me plenty of time to make little ______ Zell George’s Easter basket. He’s as hopped up as I am about the Easter Bunny’s birthday tomorrow. So go ahead and trade weird music, I won’t put anything serious on here. You just got to understand that this blog is nothing without people trading insults.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1xrCXNmPSw

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I’m guessing a lot of his liberalism went south, so to speak, after that.

You’re so woefully uninformed it’s hilarious.

see also:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/10/16/paul-simon-blasts-bush-ov_n_68701.html

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/2Balc2Duy2x/Pres+First+Lady+Obama+Honor+Musician+Stevie/HXGBVT4Sz0-/Paul+Simon

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anyone watching “The 10 Commandments”?

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“anyone watching “The 10 Commandments”?”

You bet! An Easter eve staple in the Dave R. house.

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Redneck
Convert
re:”This blog’s as dullas the Rev.Postlewaite’s sermons…so just saying…..
“things derive their their beingand nature by mutual dependence and are NOTHING in themselves”
Nagajurna

Let us remember Japan at this time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3FRkG3HV1c&feature=related

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Midori

Most definitely watched here. It’s getting to the good part now. I love to see Moses put the stick on Ramses.

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ONE: ‘You shall have no other gods before Me.’

TWO: ‘You shall not make for yourself a carved image–any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.’

THREE: ‘You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.’

FOUR: ‘Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.’

FIVE: ‘Honor your father and your mother.’

SIX: ‘You shall not murder.’

SEVEN: ‘You shall not commit adultery.’

EIGHT: ‘You shall not steal.’

NINE: ‘You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.’

“Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: ” ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments” (Matthew 22:36-40).

A reflective reading of Christ’s teaching reveals that the first four commandments given to the children of Israel are contained in the statement: “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.” It continues that the last six commandments are enclosed in the statement: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

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Moses came down from the Mount and told the people “I have good/bad news. I got them down from 20 to 10. Bad news is that Adultery is still in”.

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BADA —

SoCo – my favorite part is when he parts the sea

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Here we are: We’re facing unnecessarily high gas prices; uncertainty in the small business community thus high unemployment; allies wondering what gives; ramrodding of unwanted policies; diminished clout and respect worldwide; a collapsing dollar; runaway federal spending; over-the-top regulation; unaccountable czars and czarinas; dangerous illegal immigration (many from terrorist bastians); and only God knows what else; and instead of a president, we have a candidate-in-chief.

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G’morning all, and a Happy Easter Sunday to all observing this holiday.

Kinda been scratching my head over the posturing the GOP has been doing over the debt limit. I wonder if they realize that they’ve already painted themselves into a corner. I came across a link to a LA Times blog that had the following:

The fiscal 2012 budget resolution proposed by House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) drew the support of all 235 Republicans present and voting Friday, as well as the opposition from all 193 Democrats in attendance. That means 235 members of the House GOP are now on record in favor of slowing the growth of domestic discretionary spending and Medicaid, shrinking the deficit gradually through fiscal 2015, and sharply reducing federal spending as a percentage of the economy over the long term.

Fiscal year 2012: $16,204,000,000,000.
Fiscal year 2013: $17,177,000,000,000.
Fiscal year 2014: $17,955,000,000,000.
Fiscal year 2015: $18,704,000,000,000.
Fiscal year 2016: $19,513,000,000,000.
Fiscal year 2017: $20,257,000,000,000.
Fiscal year 2018: $20,981,000,000,000.
Fiscal year 2019: $21,711,000,000,000.
Fiscal year 2020: $22,416,000,000,000.
Fiscal year 2021: $23,105,000,000,000.

Being my curious self, I didn’t take their word for it, and I went to look it up for myself. I found a copy of the Ryan budget proposal and looked at pages 5&6 like they said. Wondering what it says??

According to the Ryan proposal:

1 TITLE I—RECOMMENDED
2 LEVELS AND AMOUNTS
3 SEC. 101. RECOMMENDED LEVELS AND AMOUNTS.
4 The following budgetary levels are appropriate for
5 each of fiscal years 2012 through 2021:

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1 Fiscal year 2012: $16,204,000,000,000.
2 Fiscal year 2013: $17,177,000,000,000.
3 Fiscal year 2014: $17,955,000,000,000.
4 Fiscal year 2015: $18,704,000,000,000.
5 Fiscal year 2016: $19,513,000,000,000.
6 Fiscal year 2017: $20,257,000,000,000.
7 Fiscal year 2018: $20,981,000,000,000.
8 Fiscal year 2019: $21,711,000,000,000.
9 Fiscal year 2020: $22,416,000,000,000.
10 Fiscal year 2021: $23,105,000,000,000.

Seems like the House GOP has already said that our debt limit will eventually end up at least around $23 Trillion within the next 10 years, so why play games and risk our economy with their hardball tactics? I can not grasp the logic with playing such a dangerous game of chicken with our future. We all know that there’s gotta be change in the way we’re running our budgets, but don’t risk throwing the entire globe into a depression to gain ideological ground. That’s pure jackassery.

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southern comfort

It’s a mad, mad, mad, world out there loaded up with a lot of political nonsense. I thought that was a very cool gesture toward the lil barry poster. As anyone knows who doesn’t have it, keep your eye on the ball and remember the real truth: good health = wealth.

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What the hell is it with you guys?

presumably the same “compassion” that drives Michigan Republicans to target foster children in their insane desire to impose austerity in the richest, most powerful nation ever on earth.

Think Atrios put it best:

normally these a[-]holes go after imagined deadbeats on unemployment and single mothers who should be punished for their sins. Now they’ve decided even foster kids are responsible for their situations in life and shouldn’t get any more of those “generous” handouts.

Happy Easter, America.

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Go Donald Go

If you really believe that then please tell all of us what makes you more elegible for God’s grace than others.

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Give it a rest. Is anybody really dumb enough to believe that Republicans are “going after” foster children? How indoctrinated do you have to be to believe this garbage.

Everybody wants the best for as many Americans as possible. Democrats believe that it is up to the government to make people happy. Republicans believe the private sector should improve the lives of others.

Just look at the misery that has happened to America since the Democrats took over Congress in 2007 and especially the horrible shape the economy has sunk to since the clown-in-chief took over. So what is just a big stack of lies to the uneducated, indoctrinated, blind liberals?

Stop repeating the garbage you hear from Salon.com and take a look around. Look at our economy. Look at the unemployment rate. Look at the cost of gas and the cost of food. Even if you are dumb enough to believe the Republican Congress did this, don’t you think that four years should have been enough to turn it around.

In other words, liberals, get a clue.

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“Just look at the misery that has happened to America since the Democrats took over Congress in 2007″

Nice trick, spend like fools for eight years, then get thrown out because of the mess, then blame the dems? It takes two to tango and both sides are complicit. In other words, try to see the forest past the trees.

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Go Donald Go

Absolutely. BOTH side of the GOVERNMENT are the problem. Get it? THE GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM.

Reduce the government’s size. Reduce the government’s influence. That’s the only solution.

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Go Donald Go

I am refering to your 3:54 post. Short-term memory loss?

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carlos

Do you make it a habit of responding to a post from the previous day? I don’t take this stuff all that seriously. My advice to you is: eat some candy

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All day, every day? Been on here three days. Never said I was more eligible, just still here, I’ll take it.

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getalife

Time to stop? So please tell us when you were listening to Republicans?

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Happy Easter everyone!!! My prayer this day is that all you Christian haters on here come to know the love of Jesus!! Just know you will be prayed for today!

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This has nothing to do with the above article but is something I learned during the ‘74 oil rip off. If your going to be waiting in any line bank, dry cleaner, fast food, pharmacy, gas, etc. and expect to be there more than 30 seconds SHUT IT DOWN. You’ll save fuel and help the enviorment.

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For a weary world at EASTER , monks’ prayers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMcmyJ8lmE4&feature=relmfu

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Now I lay me down to sleep
I’m praying Lord my soul to keep
If I die before I wake
Somebody make a big mistake

I’m only just one little man
Just usin’ up the air
Still I’m askin’ anyway
Lord when I pray, please be there
Lord when I pray, please be there

Singin’ om om my god, please be there

You know I’m just like all my kind
I got a weak and confused mind
When I feel a little pain
You know how I love to complain

But I try to be strong
I try hard to lift my share
I don’t expect for nothing
But Lord when I pray, please be there

Now I sing for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsAbJMgP8mQ

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uixb3UN5t5Y

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Correction to my 10:34. The 30 sec rule quoted was for carbureted cars. The experts recommend 10 sec for today’s fuel injected one’s.

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getalife

“Lets face it, if you are voting to end your own Medicare, a de ath sentence if you will, you are a su icidal mania c.”

We all die. I have no intention of ever accessing medicare. I’ve never been wealthy, but I have saved money, made investments on the premise of not making investments that are decided by markets and I have every intention of supporting myself until I die.

This myth that without the government’s help, we would all die is the problem. Learn to stand on your own feet. The government is not reliable. Only your own strength, both physical and mental is all you have. If you believe that without the government, you will die, you are to be pitied.

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Happy Egg Day Y’all…Guess what we are having for dinner? That’s right…fried rabbit…yummy!
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For your enlightenment…

Origins of the name “Easter”:
The name “Easter” originated with the names of an ancient Goddess and God. The Venerable Bede, (672-735 CE.) a Christian scholar, first asserted in his book De Ratione Temporum that Easter was named after Eostre (a.k.a. Eastre). She was the Great Mother Goddess of the Saxon people in Northern Europe. Similarly, the “Teutonic dawn goddess of fertility [was] known variously as Ostare, Ostara, Ostern, Eostra, Eostre, Eostur, Eastra, Eastur, Austron and Ausos.” 1 Her name was derived from the ancient word for spring: “eastre.” Similar Goddesses were known by other names in ancient cultures around the Mediterranean, and were celebrated in the springtime. Some were:

Aphrodite from ancient Cyprus
Ashtoreth from ancient Israel
Astarte from ancient Greece
Demeter from Mycenae
Hathor from ancient Egypt
Ishtar from Assyria
Kali, from India
Ostara a Norse Goddess of fertility.

An alternative explanation has been suggested. The name given by the Frankish church to Jesus’ resurrection festival included the Latin word “alba” which means “white.” (This was a reference to the white robes that were worn during the festival.) “Alba” also has a second meaning: “sunrise.” When the name of the festival was translated into German, the “sunrise” meaning was selected in error. This became “ostern” in German. Ostern has been proposed as the origin of the word “Easter”. 2

There are two popular beliefs about the origin of the English word “Sunday.” It is derived from the name of the Scandinavian sun Goddess Sunna (a.k.a. Sunne, Frau Sonne). 5,6
It is derived from “Sol,” the Roman God of the Sun.” Their phrase “Dies Solis” means “day of the Sun.” The Christian saint Jerome (d. 420) commented “If it is called the day of the sun by the pagans, we willingly accept this name, for on this day the Light of the world arose, on this day the Sun of Justice shone forth.” 7

Sponsored link:

Pagan origins of Easter:
Many, perhaps most, Pagan religions in the Mediterranean area had a major seasonal day of religious celebration at or following the Spring Equinox. Cybele, the Phrygian fertility goddess, had a consort, Attis, who was believed to have been born via a virgin birth. Attis was believed to have died and been resurrected each year during the period MAR-22 to MAR-25.

Gerald L. Berry, author of “Religions of the World,” wrote:

“About 200 B.C. mystery cults began to appear in Rome just as they had earlier in Greece. Most notable was the Cybele cult centered on Vatican hill …Associated with the Cybele cult was that of her lover, Attis (the older Tammuz, Osiris, Dionysus, or Orpheus under a new name). He was a god of ever-reviving vegetation. Born of a virgin, he died and was reborn annually. The festival began as a day of blood on Black Friday and culminated after three days in a day of rejoicing over the resurrection.” 3

Wherever Christian worship of Jesus and Pagan worship of Attis were active in the same geographical area in ancient times, Christians:

“… used to celebrate the death and resurrection of Jesus on the same date; and pagans and Christians used to quarrel bitterly about which of their gods was the true prototype and which the imitation.”

Many religious historians and liberal theologians believe that the death and resurrection legends were first associated with Attis, many centuries before the birth of Jesus. They were simply grafted onto stories of Jesus’ life in order to make Christian theology more acceptable to Pagans. Others suggest that many of the events in Jesus’ life that were recorded in the gospels were lifted from the life of Krishna, the second person of the Hindu Trinity. Ancient Christians had an alternative explanation; they claimed that Satan had created counterfeit deities in advance of the coming of Christ in order to confuse humanity. 4 Modern-day Christians generally regard the Attis legend as being a Pagan myth of little value with no connection to Jesus. They regard Jesus’ death and resurrection account as being true, and unrelated to the earlier tradition.

Wiccans and other modern-day Neopagans continue to celebrate the Spring Equinox as one of their 8 yearly Sabbats (holy days of celebration). Near the Mediterranean, this is a time of sprouting of the summer’s crop; farther north, it is the time for seeding. Their rituals at the Spring Equinox are related primarily to the fertility of the crops and to the balance of the day and night times. In those places where Wiccans can safely celebrate the Sabbat out of doors without threat of religious persecution, they often incorporate a bonfire into their rituals, jumping over the dying embers is believed to assure fertility of people and crops.

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Looks like SoCo supports the Ryan plan and it’s lower levels of debt as compared to the Idiot Messiah’s plan. Good to have you on board!

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Normal

Great Post… Happy Ostara!!

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Looks like today has not impacted Barry in any fashion. That anger never takes a break.

Brother Normal, great stuff. And in that vein…

Chapter six and verse eleven
If you wanna get to heaven
You’ve got to ask the Man who owns the Property
Ya gotta dance your dance
And do your act
And get His Big Attention that’s a natural born fact
I’m on my knees, one question please
Will the real God please stand up?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ0BjyI_XWw

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lil w bailout is proof why the gop are attacking are attacking education.

Medicare is not welfare s t upid.

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Oops. only one are attacking.

My bad.

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When do you know getaclue is lying?

When getaclue is typing.

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As additional proof of the GOP insanity, they’re including savings based some things from the Affordable Health Care Act, when they all unanimously opposed it. That’s hypocrisy at it’s best.

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Southern Comfort (aka The Man)

So because a very few aspects of a 2,000 page document are acceptable to people who voted against the entire, horrible Health Insurance Company enriching bill, those people are hypocrites?

And this is liberal logic, right?

No wonder you guys can’t seem to hang on to power through more than one election cycle.

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Dammeet! I need to buy a vowel. I’ll take an “a” Vanna.

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they had **been** more pragmatic….

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What a great day to be alive, huh?

For me *and* the weeds.

Since god began it, we’ve been dividing up the planet
When you see something you want it
You’ve got to put your name tag on it
And we go on carving, meanwhile half the world is starving
It’s a crime .. hands off what is mine!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwyakCb1We8

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Dave

We’ll have to disagree on the “compromise” in the HCR then. When you say “hell no” to the public option, and it’s removed, whether it was to appease you or conservatives in your own party, that’s a compromise. There may not have been a crapload of compromise, but there was some. Individual mandate was championed by the GOP in the 90’s and used by Romney, however, now it’s toxic to the GOP. As I said, I didn’t like the HCR, but I blame BOTH parties and not just the Democrats.

As far as your 2nd point, that word “if” carries a lot of power to disappoint you. I don’t think threats end up bringing about real, honest negotiations at all. If anything, I think it only ramps up the partisanship. Somebody up in DC has to be the grown-up, but for right now, I don’t see any of the 535 stepping up anytime soon.

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I agree that the Ryan plan could go farther–deeper spending cuts and eliminating Medicaid altogether would be a good start.

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“If that’s the case, then why go through all the effort to demonize it in the beginning.”

Oh, let’s see . . . a near Depression, unemployment skyrocketing, 2 wars being fought debt and deficits farther than the eye can see, and all they can focus on is . . . health care reform?

WTF!!!???

Can you say,” how about getting your priorities straight”?

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The Paul Ryan Indebtedness plan (from SoCo’s earlier post):

Fiscal year 2012: $16,204,000,000,000.
Fiscal year 2013: $17,177,000,000,000.
Fiscal year 2014: $17,955,000,000,000.
Fiscal year 2015: $18,704,000,000,000.
Fiscal year 2016: $19,513,000,000,000.
Fiscal year 2017: $20,257,000,000,000.
Fiscal year 2018: $20,981,000,000,000.
Fiscal year 2019: $21,711,000,000,000.
Fiscal year 2020: $22,416,000,000,000.
Fiscal year 2021: $23,105,000,000,000.

How does that jibe with Dave R.’s claims about that 14.3 trillion dollar debt limit and how deficits don’t matter.

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Well, what a fine day indeed. Atlanta sunshine is at its brightest & best. Our pastor even started his sermon by saying “This is a great day” as he looked out the big windows (and he has to lead two services).

The church was beautiful. Easter liles were placed all around and the choir sang happy hymns of joy while the organist was inspired. Outside, tree roses were red and svelt in their bright petals and so pretty. Inside, the old, young and inbetweens smiled at each other in the fellowship of Christian worship. A little girl about six years old lit the altar candles with great pride.

As ’tis said: “Joy comes in the morning” and so it did today as every day when we consider the message of this special morning.

I won’t leave any “literature” or songs for you. I always liked the twenty third psalm on any day. But I am thankful for Easter and the joy it brings to heart and mind. Very thankful…

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Well, the missus is full and taking a nap. Beleive me, Ryans lost a ton of money today. Is there a Delete button for posts on this blog? I’d like to use it to zap the posts from Lil Barry, Dave R., Dusty, and a few others, so I can read the ones that make sense and not have to wade thru a bunch of garbage. Your advise is appreciated.

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Mr. Redneck Convert

You are a funny sage, it don’t get no better than that

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Thank you, SOOTHSAYER. We do enjoy this day.
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REDNECK

Always glad to help out the hapless>>>>>> Go back and click on SPORTS. Then call up Gametracker and wait until FOUR o’clock. The BRAVES will be playing!

If you have any problem finding this, ask lil’ Sonny Zell to help you while he’s eating chocolate rabbits. Does he resemble his grandosius grandma?

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It appears that Dave Jones Locker exposes the facilies of Rep. Ryan(R-WI) budget plan and the havoc it would cause the economy of this country.

Further, the so-called conservatives and their supporters have proposed hold the Sword of Damocles over the economy of the USA, albeit the world’s economy, if President Obama does not agree to their demands for political points and their threat to not raise the debt ceiling. True patriots, all!!!!

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Happy Easter, America, pt. 2. from

The Warped US Tax System: Taxpayers Subsidize Their Own Destruction

One of the more interesting battles being waged right now is between labor and Boeing, the aerospace and defense corporation. The National Labor Relations Board accuses the company of illegally retaliating against its largest union when it decided in 2009 to put a second 787 Dreamliner assembly line in a nonunion plant in South Carolina.

Conservatives constantly exalt the glories of the free market, except there’s nothing free about taxpayers subsidizing the anti-union behavior of companies like Boeing. This kind of corporate welfare system is rigged to force citizens to bankroll their own destruction. If every company followed the Boeing model, there would be no unions, no collective bargaining, and no assurance for the majority of poor workers that they can have any protection from their corporate overlords.

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“If every company followed the Boeing model, there would be no unions, no collective bargaining, and no assurance for the majority of poor workers that they can have any protection from their corporate overlords.”

And I’m assuming you think this is a bad thing . . . ?

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getalife,

Are you quoting DeNiro of Hollywood town? He usually plays the mafia characters. You always like those Sicilian types and their politics, doncha el gettalos….

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Dave R

What a gasbag! The debt ceiling has always been raised but now it needs to be used as a sledgehammer for conservatives? Worse hypocrites than liberals.

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Go Donald Go,

Now, sir, you are new here and “we” don’t allow name calling until you have been here a week or two. After that you are on your own with your conscience and mean “moderation”(when your posts get dumped!)

It takes control but some have succeeded! Others continue their lot on the liberal yellow brick road. Watch for pitfalls and pot holes..

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USinUK,

R U in the sunny city of Atlanta by chance? Happy Easter to you too. It is really nice here. Luvvv this springtime!

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dusted

“Remember man you are dust, and unto dust you shall return”, go fly a kite or go jump in a lake, unless of course you are the self appointed internet police? If that’s the the case then don’t break the glass unless it’s a fire. Conservatism as it is practiced today is just a notch above totalitarianism, (see michigan) what an embarassment.

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Dave @ 1:20

The GOP doesn’t stand up too much better when placed under the same microscope. Where is the job legislation that they campaigned on? The WAPO has an article om their website that talks about how many votes have been cast in the House so far. I don’t think their primary focus has been on job creation either.

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People that pay attention to details relative to the cost/benefit of economic actions taken by the politicians should have an understanding of what is being proposed and why.

Not raising the debit ceiling, plunging the world’s economy into a catastrophic morass, does not save the injured patient.

Without the economy of the USA, which is the world’s engine for economic activity, being finely tuned, the economy of the world burns more “fuel” to reach any destination.

If those who believe crippling the USA economy is helpful, let them be the first to stand in line at the banks when inflation roars and jobs disappear.

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The debt ceiling has always been raised…

True statement, but all it proves is that the name “ceiling” is being woefully misused.

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“Not raising the debit ceiling, plunging the world’s economy into a catastrophic morass, does not save the injured patient. ”

Obviously, Jackie, you know little about economics AND medicine.

Is not raising the debt ceiling a permanent thing? Of course not. Will there be a hiccup in the economy while it isn’t raised? Of course. But like an amputation, the patient takes a momentary downturn while the root cause is addressed and the patient ultimately recovers.

It is the difference between thinking things through, and emotionally reacting to things to further your.liberal agenda.

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I give up. That Dave R. has won the title of Most Insane Posts. He earned it.

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“I give up.”

Usually what happens when liberals are confronted with reality.

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Davy Jones Footlocker probably smells like “Monkey” feet.

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They’re on to you, Ryan. You’re going to need a better lie than more of the same like that trickle down supply side voodoo economics garbage especially when you try to tell retired folks living on social security and medicare that they have to make even more sacrifices so you can give the billionaires another tax cut.

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I give up. That Dave R. has won the title of Most Insane Posts. He earned it.

Usually what happens when liberals are confronted with reality.

Liberals around the world, when confronted with this reality, agreed that you earned that title fair and square.

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And I’ll give you time to actually think about your response. I’m going to mow the south 40 now.

I await anything remotely resembling a reasoned response.

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It’s called back up your opinion with facts. Try it sometime. Lord knows, you haven’t done so yet.

Thank you Dave R. for giving me the perfect reply to your rants.

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SSN and Medicare were both designed as safety nets, not as entitlements. But somehow, because of the promises that politicians of both parties made over the years, everything got screwed up and people conducted their lives built upon the belief that even if they did the wrong things they could rely on these programs to save them. Guaranteed entitlements make people lazy and they make people dependent. Now we pretty much have an entire nation that thinks that they deserve and will receive sustenance from the government through these and other programs. As pertaining to the money to pay for these social programs, the Government is nothing more than an illusion. It has no money of its own and it does not create one dollar to pay for these programs. It is totally dependent upon the working population and the private sector to pay its bills. Another words, the government has no vested interest (other than getting elected again) so really what do they have to lose? They will take care of themselves far better than they will ever take care of us and all they have to do is promise.

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The debt is a contractual obligation secured by bonds and other instruments.
If we do not meet our contractural obligations, we would be in default on our contracts. This would lead to worldwide economic chaos with the leading loser being the “good faith and credit of the United States.”

Any further borrowing by us from the world community would mean paying higher interest rates or an outright refusal to lend to us.

Where is Dave to refute these basic business law concepts.

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Jackie

If we do not meet our contractural obligations, we would be in default on our contracts.

Any further borrowing by us from the world community would mean paying higher interest rates or an outright refusal to lend to us.
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So you’re FOR raising the debt limit and AGAINST raising the debt limit?

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@Lil Barry

I am for raising the debt limit. Without meeting our contractual obligations where we can borrow money to inject into our economy, which the economic engine of the world, the Great Depression would seem like childs play.

Where do you stand?

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Jackie: “If we do not meet our contractural obligations, we would be in default on our contracts. This would lead to worldwide economic chaos with the leading loser being the “good faith and credit of the United States”.

Really?

Freshman Republican Rep. Joe Walsh (R-Ill.) pointed to previous times Congress has voted against raising the debt limit and then approved an increase in the weeks that followed.

“Over the course of those few MONTHS (emphasis added) when the debt ceiling wasn’t raised, Armageddon didn’t hit, the government paid its bills — we’ve got enough government revenues to certainly pay, to service all of our debt, he said on CBS’s ‘Face the Nation’.”

Wow! Imagine that! We actually HAVE failed to raise our debt limit multiple times in the past – and NOTHING happened!

Facts always trump poutrage in any argument.

Tools.

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@Lil Barry

Here is a link that will help you understand what debt limit actually means.

http://www.investorwords.com/1321/debt_limit.html

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@Lil Barry

How would you balance the budget of the Federal government when there has been such a massive disruption in the job market, consequently devastating our balance of trades?

Secondly, the Federal government has to budget and meet obligations on a yearly basis whereas you and I have things we budget for over a longer term, i.e., house, car, education.

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“so Dr Dave R left out what else we need to do to get this patient back on it’s feet”

Actually, Troll, I’ve been CONSISTENTLY calling for cuts deeper than you can comprehend across ALL departments, including defense, and closing all loopholes and subsidies in the tax code – but NOT raising tax rates on anyone until we see what cutting does first.

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@Dave R

He may have SAID there is enough revenue to pay our yearly obligations, but, he did not say what those revenue items were.

Can you name them, give an amount and use them to balance the budget without destroying the economy?

I will give you a few moments.

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@Lil Barry

Sounds good, but it does not work.
The population is larger and older, therefore, health care costs take up almost 18% of the budget by itself.
Second, during the Clinton era, there was full employment meaning revenues were greater than outlays, hence a budget surplus.

None of those things can be said today because of economic policies of the Bush era.

What do you think?

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@Lil Barry

It seems that your ability to understand how the economy really works is limited.

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@Lil Barry

There must be a misunderstanding on your part.

http://www.seeingtheforest.com/archives/2010/01/cato_dont_blame_1.htm

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@Lil Barry

Another misunderstanding about tax revenus and tax cuts.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/04/20/gop-claim-that-tax-cuts-raise-revenues-rated-false/

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Our President Bush lowered tax rates and revenues went up. There’s nothing else to understand.

IIRC, your Idiot Messiah endorsed our President Bush’s tax cuts last December.

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@Lil Barry

Did you get the link that puts that myth to rest?

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/04/20/gop-claim-that-tax-cuts-raise-revenues-rated-false/

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President Bush lowered tax rates. Revenues went up.

Kinda hard to spin that, but I’ll give you credit for trying.

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“Can you name them, give an amount and use them to balance the budget without destroying the economy?”

Don’t need to. NO ONE is talking about balancing the budget THIS YEAR. It took 40 years to get into this mess you libs created, and we aren’t getting out of it overnight.

We have between 30 and 60 days to pay interest on our current debt, and we have revenues coming in daily to this government. In fact, more come in this quarter than any other due to the wonderfulness of April 15th. So we fund for however long it takes to come to a reasonable compromise on spending cuts with existing revenues. if Congress is smart (I know, a big leap of faith there, especially given that mental midgets such as Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer are in the Senate), they understand the REAL urgency coming up 60 days after not raising the debt ceiling and make a deal.

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Uh, Jackie, TARP was passed in 2008. Your Idiot Messiah endorsed our President Bush’s tax cuts for the rich in December 2010.

And you say I don’t understand the economy? You don’t understand that 2010 occurred after 2008.

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Obozo promised during the election that he would end our President Bush’s tax cuts BEFORE they were scheduled to expire. Even with a Democrat dominated House and Senate, he failed to even propose it.

I wonder why?

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@Dave R.

We are not talking about balancing the budget.

Your 6:43 uses an example of the Freshman Congress to prove that NOT raising the debt ceiling would not be harmful.

Is there something missing in your response?

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@Dave R.

My 7:10 was due to a problem with copying and pasting your 6:43. So, don’t take that to be complete.

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@Dave R.

I must give it too you, practice at changing the subject has benefited you. LOL.

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“Dave, you’re playing partisan again. BOTH parties are culpable for the sh*thole we’re in. I don’t think one is any more at fault than the other. ”

Disagree, SoCo. While the GOP has done nothing to END the failed social engineering programs of the past 50 years, those programs were INSTITUTED by the Democrat party (with the exception of the ridiculous Medicare Prescription Drug program Bush proposed).

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Bottom line, has Congress failed to raise the debt ceiling in the past?

YES. Multiple times.

Did the economy of the world destroy itself when they did?

NO. Not even close.

Take your poutrage elsewhere.

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@Dave R.

Can not find any evidence where the Congress of the USA failed to raise the debt limit before a 60 day time frame had elapsed.

Have any evidence of that?

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@Bedtime

Did the so-called conservatives get that memo about the Ryan budget disaster?

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Jackie, reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, is it?

Re-read the Congressman’s remarks from my 6:43 post.

Jackie: “We have been discussing how your use of cuts to spending could be used to lower the debt and bring our budget in balance.

How conviently you failed to read the first sentence of the posting and used the wording “balance the budget” to make it appear that the gist of the conversation was about budget balancing.”

Maybe I missed it, but it was YOU who have three times now brought up balancing the budget. NOT ME. Why are you so friggin’ dense?

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“The GOP is responsible for time and time again cutting revenues i.e. tax cuts without a corresponding amount of spending cuts.”

SoCo, I don’t disagree.

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What part of “Ryan’s plan doesn’t affect people 55 years or older right now” do you NOT get?

Oh! I get it. Most people over 55 will simply approve of your cynical plan to destroy the safety net, provided they’re not affected.

Got news for you, pal. All you cynical libertarians, constitutionalists, and hard-core Republican conservatives are making a very bad assumption: to wit, that we elderly people are just as selfish as you. I’m one of those elderly, and I want Social Security and Medicare to be around for my son when he reaches retirement age. We aren’t going back to the days of the tin begging cup, the pencil and apple selling, and the moving in of elderly parents with their children.

Sit on it, pal. You make me sick.

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Jackie: Just using the 2008 TARP funding to point out to you what a mess President Obama inhereted from President Bush.
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TARP ended the financial crisis and the recession ended in June 2009. As SoCo helpfully pointed out, it was still our President Bush’s economy at that point, so He gets credit for ending the recession.

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Del

I don’t disagree with your statement “is it a case where the private sector needs to lead our way out of it.” My problem is that I don’t think the private sector sees it that way, nor do they even have the appearance of thinking it’s them that are the key to the solution. Until they realize that if the US goes under, they also lose, I don’t think they feel as though they have skin in the game. I could be wrong, but I haven’t seen any conferences of business leaders getting together to do anything other than pay off Congressmen. Think of how much our economy might have been aided had the money spent for campaigns had actually gone into the economy in the form of jobs created or expanded.

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“I’m one of those elderly, and I want Social Security and Medicare to be around for my son when he reaches retirement age.”

Disgusting, guess what? Ain’t gonna happen. SS will be in deficit spending by 2015 with less than one worker supporting one retiree by that year. Medicare is already broke. Neither model is sustainable, no matter how much you’d like to soak the rich to pay for them.

Your 50 years of social engineering has failed and failed miserably. Thanks for playing, but it’s time for the grown-ups to fix your mess – again.

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In this case, the grownups are mostly younger than the greedy, wealthy retirees still looking for handouts.

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So, if that’s how things happened, why on G*d’s Green Earth did the GOP try to slap all the blame for the recession and bailout on the Dems and Obama in 2010?
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The GOP quite correctly slapped the blame for Obozo wasting $1 trillion on a failed stimulus that was really just a slush fund for public union employee payoffs. The GOP also correctly criticized your Idiot Messiah, fascist that he is, for confiscating what was left of GM and Chrysler and giving it to his union goons, rather than leaving it with its rightful owners.

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Freshmen feel the heat back home—Politico

Good luck with selling Ryan’s plan. The elderly aren’t the only ones to object to it. See the Politico article. And those aren’t Democrats bringing the heat. You “grown-ups” have a little problem on your hands, unless you plan to by-pass the electorate in 2012.

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Ronnie, I guess you missed the part where there were going to be no changes to Medicare or SS for those 55 or older in the Ryan plan.

Maybe you get your head out of the sand and pay attention.

This private sector worker is off to bed.

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@Dave R.

The only time I mentioned balancing the budget when Lil Barry spoke about the Obama budget and the purported glide path we would be on if he would cut spending.

Now, when you make the dense statement, you should understand that you are a master of changing the subject matter when it does not fit into your tiny world of knowledge.

You and I were discussing the debt limit, of which you conviently tried to change the subject. Maybe if you were not so ignorant, you would have figured that out.

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The real grown ups looked at the Ryan plan and started asking the grown up questions such as why does the national debt keep going up under the Ryan plan while the billionaire libertarians get more tax cuts and the seniors get a voucher to buy private insurance at a higher cost if they can get coverage at all while the poor sick lose medicaid and the starving lose their food stamps…

The one good thing the Ryan plan does is finally put the Republican party on display for all to see. By all means, bring us more town hall meetings. Show us how you will convince your own base to slit their wrists for your cause.

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@Lil Barry

It seems the end of the Great Recession came to an in the 3rd Quarter of 2009, almost a year after President Obama was elected.

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/10/recession_ending_gdp_rises_3rd.html

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gottalie
April 24th, 2011
9:07 pm

We should stop giving big oil welfare right lil w?
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You’ll have to be more specific. Thanks in advance.

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Looks like you’re just making sh$t up. Link please.

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Lil’ Barry Bailout

Now THAT is what is known as a funny.

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If you’re talking about changing the rules after the game has been played, I’m generally against that. If it’s something else, go ahead and link to it.

Didn’t think so.

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Jackie apparently believes there is actual money in the SS trust fund.

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@Lil Barry

If you will check out this link, you too will begin to understand how the Social Security surplus is used and how the US government has borrowed from the Trust Fund.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/25/949893/-Factcheck-got-it-really-wrong-about-Social-Security

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@Del

If we can not believe in the “good faith and credit” of the US government debt contracts, being the largest economy in the world, who can we trust?

Wow, the use of the ignorant word should be put away when one is unaware of the total economic picture, don’t you think?

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From Jackie’s Daily Kos story:

“Social Security expenditures are expected to exceed tax receipts this year for the first time since 1983. The projected deficit of $41 billion this year…”

Bottom line: The government is paying out $41 billion more this year than it takes in. The SS trust fund has nothing in it. The money has to come from some other source, and that source is the general budget.

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Jackie, your libbtarded friends (save gottalie perhaps) aren’t even going to help you on this one, that’s how wrong and easily b*tchslapped you are.

Next issue.

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The general budget is in the red already. Treasury will simply issue a new bond to replace the one in the existing “trust fund.” Once we recover completely from the Bush recession and get everyone back to work that wants to work the taxes will exceed the outflow again.

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According to the Republicans on here, we need to be concerned about government IOUs in the social security trust fund. Has anyone informed the holders of that total14 trillion yet (the trust fund holdings account for just a part of that). They’ll be expecting their interest payments, on schedule. Go ahead, tell them their payment is not coming unless the billionaires are granted another tax cut because that is the only way the Republicans will agree to raise the debt ceiling. Now THAT is also known as a funny.

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@Lil Barry

Where you at??????

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@Del

The problem with oil / gas prices are the “speculators.”
There is so much oil on the world market, the USA does not facilities to store all the oil and other refined petroleum products.

It is so bad, we are using oil tankers floating in the ocean as storage facilities.

As you know, the valuation of a currency is based on “good faith and credit” of the said country. Who else in the world has the clout and muscle to better the world’s economy than the USA.

The other major problem we are having is Moody’s talking about downgrading our debt is due to the fact there is no movement on raising the debt ceiling in Washington, DC.

It has riled the world’s currency markets because there is a fear of having to raise interest rates on debt instruments. Not good for a fragile economy.

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Jackie,

As I said earlier we can all agree on one thing and that is we’re in trouble. I’ll admit that better minds than my own will need to find the solutions and my concern is that politics will make finding those ultimate solutions difficult at best. Taps now…Happy Easter

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Moody’s didn’t report anything we didn’t already know, hence the one day reaction. Saudi Arabia just cut production because of the glut of oil. The speculators are robbing us. Why do we continue to let them? The oil companies own much of the oil and the refineries. Why are they selling it instead of just delivering it to the refinery? The commodity futures markets have outlived their usefullness in this computer managed inventory age.

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This old man was at the pier today getting his boat ready, working hard to make everything ship-shape, patching leaks, painting spots with, I guess, his grandson. Turns out he was from the Greatest Generation, and they were selling the boat. His grandson was asking questions with the stark honesty of a child. “Hey, Grampy, why are we doin’ all this to the boat?” He said, ” Well, the family that’s gettin this boat is goin out on the big bad ocean with their children, and remember when Great-Gramp fixed it before we went out? Thats right. He paid it forward. And I care. Its the right thing to do. We are doing this because that’s the kind of people we are – people of character, people of substance. If I didn’t do everything I could to make it right, you know, pay it forward, and that man got out on the ocean, and it was every man for himself, and he lost them, well we’re just not the kind of stinkin shirkin weasels that would do that, son – you remember that”

and I did.

Moral of the Story – never put the safety & future of your family in the hands of a person (or Party) with no shame, no remorse, and no conscience

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“TRUMP VS. THE CHUMP”

I LOVE IT ………. CAN’T WAIT FOR THE DEATES !

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Apparently, Jackie doesn’t know the meaning of the words “deficit spending”.

Her OWN LINK pointed out that there is less money coming in than going out in Social Security, yet she can’t quite come to admit that what is occurring isn’t deficit spending.

When you’re sustaining your program by drawing down reserves, you’re in deficit spending.

It amazes me that she even survives in this world. Maybe she has someone that takes care of her.

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Good Morning – Attention serious debt reduction proposal ahead-

“And that’s why the only major budget proposal out there offering a plausible path to balancing the budget is the one that includes significant tax increases: the “People’s Budget” from the Congressional Progressive Caucus, which — unlike the Ryan plan, which was just right-wing orthodoxy with an added dose of magical thinking — is genuinely courageous because it calls for shared sacrifice.

True, it increases revenue partly by imposing substantially higher taxes on the wealthy, which is popular everywhere except inside the Beltway. But it also calls for a rise in the Social Security cap, significantly raising taxes on around 6 percent of workers. And, by rescinding many of the Bush tax cuts, not just those affecting top incomes, it would modestly raise taxes even on middle-income families.”

There it is, why is that so hard to do?

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stands

It’s a start, we’ll never get back if we don’t start rebuilding our manufacturing base. Everything started going south after the election of 2000, people were warned, yet there are so many that can’t seem to put it together and realize that after 30 years of this tax cutting mantra – we are broke and worse off…good grief…

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Morning, Mick -

“But it also calls for a rise in the Social Security cap, significantly raising taxes on around 6 percent of workers.”

Has it not been reported here in Jay’s columns that some modest age adjustments will carry Social Security well into the future? If so, the raising of the income cap is nothing more than an back-door tax increase, as it’s an admission SS revenues are siphoned off to fund general government operations. For that reason, I’d oppose that provision.

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Y’know, Mick, that proposal also seems to shield groups of people who receive tax-free allowances – for cell phones, cars, health insurance. If that SS cap is to be increased, doesn’t it seem reasonable that before we go that route we take all these tax-free allowances some groups enjoy and make them taxable? Puts them more on an equal footing with their peers.

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paul@7:55

I don’t have a problem with that. If we are facing a crisis then everyone in this country needs to do their part to pull us out – no exceptions. In the end, all will benefit for a more secure future…

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paul

As someone who has never collected a dime of welfare, paid my taxes year in and year out, I am a bit frustrated by all these special interests. Welfare fraud needs to be reigned in as does medicare. Here in miami, you are talking about billions in medicare fraud, it has to end…

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I used to get a tax-free allowance… from my parents. A quarter a week, as long as I did my chores.

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I remember returning coke bottles for pennies, do they do that anymore?

yes, in more enlightened places. see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Container-deposit_legislation_in_the_United_States

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Container_deposit_legislation

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Taxpayer

Yep. I think you can still find Coke in glass bottles from time to time. They do 8oz. bottles and 12 oz collectibles from time to time.

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