Travelin’ to Graceland, Graceland, Graceland Tennessee
Once they’ve made a name and career for themselves, novelists, musicians, actors, painters and other creatives face a common challenge: Now what? Do you keep doing what you’ve done, what made you famous, or do you bust out of that niche and try something fresh and new?
Twenty-five years ago, a semi-washed-up pop star by the name of Paul Simon decided to try to something new, infusing his work with exotic influences from South Africa and Louisiana and Mexico. In “Graceland,” Simon produced one of those rare albums in which musicianship and creativity were rewarded with popularity. It was a fresh work of art by a mature professional, plus it made your feet twitch and your heart jump.
In its Silver Anniversary year, here’s the title cut:
– Jay Bookman
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Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
April 24th, 2011
2:01 pm
Well, the missus is full and taking a nap. Beleive me, Ryans lost a ton of money today. Is there a Delete button for posts on this blog? I’d like to use it to zap the posts from Lil Barry, Dave R., Dusty, and a few others, so I can read the ones that make sense and not have to wade thru a bunch of garbage. Your advise is appreciated.
Soothsayer
April 24th, 2011
2:04 pm
A National Strategic Narrative
by Mr. Y
It is time for America to re-focus our national interests and principles through a long lens on the
global environment of tomorrow. It is time to move beyond a strategy of containment to a
strategy of sustainment (sustainability); from an emphasis on power and control to an emphasis
on strength and influence; from a defensive posture of exclusion, to a proactive posture of
engagement. We must recognize that security means more than defense, and sustaining security
requires adaptation and evolution, the leverage of converging interests and interdependencies.
To grow we must accept that competitors are not necessarily adversaries, and that a winner does
not demand a loser. We must regain our credibility as a leader among peers, a beacon of hope,
rather than an island fortress. It is only by balancing our interests with our principles that we can
truly hope to sustain our growth as a nation and to restore our credibility as a world leader.
This 15-page paper was written, incredibly, by two upper-level Pentagon staffers — apparently with the acquiescence of the Pentagon — and is well worth the read. (It’s only 15 pages.)
Go Donald Go
April 24th, 2011
2:11 pm
Mr. Redneck Convert
You are a funny sage, it don’t get no better than that
Dave R.
April 24th, 2011
2:24 pm
“How does that jibe with Dave R.’s claims about that 14.3 trillion dollar debt limit and how deficits don’t matter.”
I’m trying to figure out if “Davy Jones Locker” is as dumb as a sack of hammers, or even dumber. I guess the trouble usually comes in when someone can’t read, and worse yet, doesn’t understand what he reads.
Either way, to sum up what Davy Jones Locker doesn’t understand, the “Deficits don’t matter” quote from Dick Cheney was used when Cheney was referencing Ronald Reagan’s election issues back in the ’80s. And he was rightly surmising that back then deficits didn’t matter to Reagan’s re-election chances. (Full disclosure compels me to point out that I didn’t like deficits back in ANY decade, and expressed my displeasure to my congressman at the time) In short, I agree with the electoral assessment, but not with the fiscal issue.
My issue today is with the loony left constantly harping on one particular quote that has no meaning today as something they can use to discredit current GOP efforts to control spending. In my mind deficits and debt are always bad, but are exponentially worse now and need to be brought under control.
Dusty
April 24th, 2011
2:25 pm
Thank you, SOOTHSAYER. We do enjoy this day.
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REDNECK
Always glad to help out the hapless>>>>>> Go back and click on SPORTS. Then call up Gametracker and wait until FOUR o’clock. The BRAVES will be playing!
If you have any problem finding this, ask lil’ Sonny Zell to help you while he’s eating chocolate rabbits. Does he resemble his grandosius grandma?
BADA BING
April 24th, 2011
2:31 pm
What a mess, now some politician is suggesting we help the Syrian Rebels now. Why don’t we bomb every Mid East capital just so we don’t miss anyone.
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
2:32 pm
It appears that Dave Jones Locker exposes the facilies of Rep. Ryan(R-WI) budget plan and the havoc it would cause the economy of this country.
Further, the so-called conservatives and their supporters have proposed hold the Sword of Damocles over the economy of the USA, albeit the world’s economy, if President Obama does not agree to their demands for political points and their threat to not raise the debt ceiling. True patriots, all!!!!
getalife
April 24th, 2011
2:33 pm
“It’s like a big hustle. It’s like being a car salesman. Don’t go out there and say things unless you can back them up. How dare you? That’s awful to do. To just go out and speak and say these terrible things? Unless you just wanna get over and get the job. It’s crazy.” DeNiro talking about trump.
DeNiro could run for mayor of NYC and win.
stands for decibels
April 24th, 2011
2:44 pm
Happy Easter, America, pt. 2. from
The Warped US Tax System: Taxpayers Subsidize Their Own Destruction
One of the more interesting battles being waged right now is between labor and Boeing, the aerospace and defense corporation. The National Labor Relations Board accuses the company of illegally retaliating against its largest union when it decided in 2009 to put a second 787 Dreamliner assembly line in a nonunion plant in South Carolina.
[...]
Endless mini-bailouts [...] and harsh austerity measures won’t pay off for citizens, or corporations, in the long run. South Carolina legislators plan to cut $700 million from the state budget by hacking away at Medicare and education programs. Meanwhile, the detrimental ripple effects of education cuts are likely to far outweigh any temporary benefits the state might have gained from luring Boeing into its borders. Citizens will obviously suffer, but so too will business. For example, Boeing isn’t going to be super eager to hire the products of a failing South Carolinian educational system to work in its plants.
Conservatives constantly exalt the glories of the free market, except there’s nothing free about taxpayers subsidizing the anti-union behavior of companies like Boeing. This kind of corporate welfare system is rigged to force citizens to bankroll their own destruction. If every company followed the Boeing model, there would be no unions, no collective bargaining, and no assurance for the majority of poor workers that they can have any protection from their corporate overlords.
Dave R.
April 24th, 2011
2:45 pm
Our long-term debt is like a gangrenous limb. If you don’t do something drastic in the short-term that harms the patient, eventually that patient dies.
Not raising the debt ceiling right now is the amputation needed to get the patient back to extended life.
And just because something is seen as a political move (as well), doesn’t mean the idea for the economy is a bad one. It just serves a dual purpose.
But to single-threaded people like liberals, maybe that’s all they can handle . . .
Dave R.
April 24th, 2011
2:49 pm
“If every company followed the Boeing model, there would be no unions, no collective bargaining, and no assurance for the majority of poor workers that they can have any protection from their corporate overlords.”
And I’m assuming you think this is a bad thing . . . ?
Davy Jone's FootLocker
April 24th, 2011
2:54 pm
It looks as though Dave R just wants to argue with his mirror since he’s the one that brought up that quote about deficits not mattering just so he could argue about it. Good luck with that, Dave R. And if I were a sack, I’d still be smarter than you.
Dusty
April 24th, 2011
2:54 pm
getalife,
Are you quoting DeNiro of Hollywood town? He usually plays the mafia characters. You always like those Sicilian types and their politics, doncha el gettalos….
USinUK
April 24th, 2011
2:54 pm
Hi Bookmaniacs –
just wanted to pop in, say hi and wish everyone a very happy Easter –
enjoy the PEEPS!!!
Go Donald Go
April 24th, 2011
2:55 pm
Dave R
What a gasbag! The debt ceiling has always been raised but now it needs to be used as a sledgehammer for conservatives? Worse hypocrites than liberals.
Dave R.
April 24th, 2011
3:07 pm
“The debt ceiling has always been raised but now it needs to be used as a sledgehammer for conservatives?”
Raising the debt ceiling when your debt is $5 trillion? Not a good idea in my mind, but not as bad as raising the debt ceiling when your debt is $14 trillion with no plan to address your spending.
And Donald, isn’t one of the definitions of insanity doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results?
Dusty
April 24th, 2011
3:07 pm
Go Donald Go,
Now, sir, you are new here and “we” don’t allow name calling until you have been here a week or two. After that you are on your own with your conscience and mean “moderation”(when your posts get dumped!)
It takes control but some have succeeded! Others continue their lot on the liberal yellow brick road. Watch for pitfalls and pot holes..
Dave R.
April 24th, 2011
3:08 pm
Yep, as I thought. Davy Jones Locker really doesn’t have any reading comprehension skills.
Dusty
April 24th, 2011
3:15 pm
USinUK,
R U in the sunny city of Atlanta by chance? Happy Easter to you too. It is really nice here. Luvvv this springtime!
Dave R.
April 24th, 2011
3:18 pm
Happy Easter, USinUK!
Enjoy your pageantry this week!
Go Donald Go
April 24th, 2011
3:19 pm
dusted
“Remember man you are dust, and unto dust you shall return”, go fly a kite or go jump in a lake, unless of course you are the self appointed internet police? If that’s the the case then don’t break the glass unless it’s a fire. Conservatism as it is practiced today is just a notch above totalitarianism, (see michigan) what an embarassment.
AmVet
April 24th, 2011
3:23 pm
Back at ya, USinUK.
From Samuel Pepys for the Easter peeps…
Sunday 19 April 1668
(Sunday). Lay long. Roger Pepys and his son come, and to Church with me, where W. Pen was, and did endeavour to shew himself to the Church. Then home to dinner, and Roger Pepys did tell me the whole story of Harman, how he prevaricated, and hath undoubtedly been imposed on, and wheedled; and he is called the miller’s man that, in Richard the Third’s time, was hanged for his master.1 So after dinner I took them by water to White Hall, taking in a very pretty woman at Paul’s Wharf, and there landed we, and I left Roger Pepys and to St. Margaret’s Church, and there saw Betty, and so to walk in the Abbey with Sir John Talbot, who would fain have pumped me about the prizes, but I would not let him, and so to walk towards Michell’s to see her, but could not, and so to Martin’s, and her husband was at home, and so took coach and to the Park, and thence home and to bed betimes.
Water 1s.
coach 5s.
Balty borrowed 2l.
Southern Comfort
April 24th, 2011
3:36 pm
Dave @ 1:20
The GOP doesn’t stand up too much better when placed under the same microscope. Where is the job legislation that they campaigned on? The WAPO has an article om their website that talks about how many votes have been cast in the House so far. I don’t think their primary focus has been on job creation either.
Davy Jone's FootLocker
April 24th, 2011
3:37 pm
Yep, Dave R is STILL doing the same thing over and over again. You’re a broken record Dave R. and you probably don’t even realize it. Crazy man. Insane.
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
3:38 pm
People that pay attention to details relative to the cost/benefit of economic actions taken by the politicians should have an understanding of what is being proposed and why.
Not raising the debit ceiling, plunging the world’s economy into a catastrophic morass, does not save the injured patient.
Without the economy of the USA, which is the world’s engine for economic activity, being finely tuned, the economy of the world burns more “fuel” to reach any destination.
If those who believe crippling the USA economy is helpful, let them be the first to stand in line at the banks when inflation roars and jobs disappear.
Dusty
April 24th, 2011
3:40 pm
Go Don GO,
OF COURSE I am the self appointed internet police here. Somebody’s got to do it!!! This is one wild herd of jumbalaya!! But on some days, I dream of a well behaved bunch and sometimes it happens!
Yeah..sometimes!!
Anyway, don’t mention dust. I’ve got enough around the house already. Just throw a little water on your flaming liberal heart and settle down to a good fight of reason & right. It is possible.
RW-(the original)
April 24th, 2011
3:48 pm
The debt ceiling has always been raised…
True statement, but all it proves is that the name “ceiling” is being woefully misused.
Dave R.
April 24th, 2011
3:48 pm
“The GOP doesn’t stand up too much better when placed under the same microscope. Where is the job legislation that they campaigned on?”
OK, we’re talking about 4 months in office, and a Senate still in Democrat hands.
Plus you have to realize that the GOP takes a different view of what actually creates jobs than the Dems do, and they know that government borrowing to fund one-time jobs isn’t a long-term way to grow jobs. I am not looking for instant results, but steady and sustained action. I am still in a wait and see mode on the GOP thus far.
Dave R.
April 24th, 2011
3:52 pm
“Not raising the debit ceiling, plunging the world’s economy into a catastrophic morass, does not save the injured patient. ”
Obviously, Jackie, you know little about economics AND medicine.
Is not raising the debt ceiling a permanent thing? Of course not. Will there be a hiccup in the economy while it isn’t raised? Of course. But like an amputation, the patient takes a momentary downturn while the root cause is addressed and the patient ultimately recovers.
It is the difference between thinking things through, and emotionally reacting to things to further your.liberal agenda.
Davy Jone's FootLocker
April 24th, 2011
3:53 pm
Reagan ruined Easter.
Mister Wrestling Number Twenty-Six
April 24th, 2011
4:05 pm
I give up. That Dave R. has won the title of Most Insane Posts. He earned it.
Southern Comfort
April 24th, 2011
4:07 pm
Can’t get too fancy since I’m using my phone, but I’m of the opinion that a leopard never changes it’s spots. I think that as time goes on, the GOP that we’ve had in the past will resurface once again.
Like you, I’m waiting to see how things shape up.
Dave R.
April 24th, 2011
4:12 pm
“I give up.”
Usually what happens when liberals are confronted with reality.
jonas
April 24th, 2011
4:20 pm
If every company followed the Boeing model, there would be no unions, no collective bargaining, and no assurance for the majority of poor workers that they can have any protection from their corporate overlords.
Well said with an emphasis on “if” which is the key to a free market. The problem with gov’t is that there is no “if”- the gov’t is an absolute power
pogo
April 24th, 2011
4:33 pm
Davy Jones Footlocker probably smells like “Monkey” feet.
pogo
April 24th, 2011
4:41 pm
Russia should be prospering economically because every conflict on this earth is using the Rocket Propelled Grenades and the Avtomat Kalashnikova’s they build. The Mid-east alone should have already made them rich. Sadly, there’s good money to be made in killing.
Is you is or is you ain't my constituency
April 24th, 2011
4:41 pm
They’re on to you, Ryan. You’re going to need a better lie than more of the same like that trickle down supply side voodoo economics garbage especially when you try to tell retired folks living on social security and medicare that they have to make even more sacrifices so you can give the billionaires another tax cut.
Dave R.
April 24th, 2011
4:44 pm
“especially when you try to tell retired folks living on social security and medicare that they have to make even more sacrifices so you can give the billionaires another tax cut.”
What part of “if you’re 55 or older Ryan’s plan doesn’t apply to you” do you NOT get, constituency?
Doh!
Mister Wrestling Number Twenty-Six
April 24th, 2011
4:50 pm
I give up. That Dave R. has won the title of Most Insane Posts. He earned it.
Dave R.
4:12 pm
“I give up.”
Usually what happens when liberals are confronted with reality.
Liberals around the world, when confronted with this reality, agreed that you earned that title fair and square.
Dave R.
April 24th, 2011
4:53 pm
“Liberals around the world, when confronted with this reality,”
Polled them that quickly, did you, tool?
Try this: instead of making a stupid statement as you have done twice now, why don’t you try something new and different – like pointing out WHERE you think that I am wrong.
It’s called back up your opinion with facts. Try it sometime. Lord knows, you haven’t done so yet.
Dave R.
April 24th, 2011
4:55 pm
And I’ll give you time to actually think about your response. I’m going to mow the south 40 now.
I await anything remotely resembling a reasoned response.
Is you is or is you ain't my constituency
April 24th, 2011
4:57 pm
What part of “if you’re 55 or older Ryan’s plan doesn’t apply to you” do you NOT get, constituency?
And you’ll vouch[er] for that, won’t you, Dave R. DOH!
Well, at least the smart ones ain’t buying it as evidenced by their response to Ryan’s rant in the video.
Mister Wrestling Number Twenty-Six
April 24th, 2011
5:00 pm
It’s called back up your opinion with facts. Try it sometime. Lord knows, you haven’t done so yet.
Thank you Dave R. for giving me the perfect reply to your rants.
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
5:01 pm
@Dave R.
I believe my knowledge of economics and medicine far exceed that of yours. Care to give it a shot?
Oh, I forgot, you will make specious and unsubstantiated comments that are the basis of your talking points. Without further examination, you win; with closer scrutiny, let’s just say you don’t have a clue!
I await your response!!!
pogo
April 24th, 2011
5:10 pm
SSN and Medicare were both designed as safety nets, not as entitlements. But somehow, because of the promises that politicians of both parties made over the years, everything got screwed up and people conducted their lives built upon the belief that even if they did the wrong things they could rely on these programs to save them. Guaranteed entitlements make people lazy and they make people dependent. Now we pretty much have an entire nation that thinks that they deserve and will receive sustenance from the government through these and other programs. As pertaining to the money to pay for these social programs, the Government is nothing more than an illusion. It has no money of its own and it does not create one dollar to pay for these programs. It is totally dependent upon the working population and the private sector to pay its bills. Another words, the government has no vested interest (other than getting elected again) so really what do they have to lose? They will take care of themselves far better than they will ever take care of us and all they have to do is promise.
Rightwing Troll
April 24th, 2011
5:27 pm
“Not raising the debt ceiling right now is the amputation needed to get the patient back to extended life.”
Most treatments for serious ailments require a multi pronged strategy, so Dr Dave R left out what else we need to do to get this patient back on it’s feet… Let W’s tax gifts expire, and reduce spending are two other courses of treatment that will be required, otherwise he’s treating a cancer patient with chemo and not operating to reduce the tumor or having the patient undergo radiation treatments… as well the patient needs to undergo some lifestyle changes that Dave and his ilk are loath to admit…
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
6:09 pm
The debt is a contractual obligation secured by bonds and other instruments.
If we do not meet our contractural obligations, we would be in default on our contracts. This would lead to worldwide economic chaos with the leading loser being the “good faith and credit of the United States.”
Any further borrowing by us from the world community would mean paying higher interest rates or an outright refusal to lend to us.
Where is Dave to refute these basic business law concepts.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 24th, 2011
6:20 pm
I’m glad you libbtards are all upset that the Ryan plan allows the national debt to increase by $7 trillion over ten years, instead of the Idiot Messiah’s $10 trillion. Your treatment is obviously going well. Join with Americans now in calling for deeper spending cuts.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 24th, 2011
6:22 pm
Jackie
If we do not meet our contractural obligations, we would be in default on our contracts.
Any further borrowing by us from the world community would mean paying higher interest rates or an outright refusal to lend to us.
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So you’re FOR raising the debt limit and AGAINST raising the debt limit?
jonas
April 24th, 2011
6:27 pm
Where is Dave to refute these basic business law concepts.
He is living in the reality of the moment which says stop the spending and put the credit cards/t-bills and bonds in the freezer. George who? Washington? Bush? # of unemployed have gone up. Folks no longer consider workers or unemployed have gone up. Deficit is out of control. US$ is in the tank. Gas and food is through the roof. The liberal NY Times headline today not just questioning but stating QE is not effective- oh really, shovel ready? green jobs? Section 8? food stamps? wars? The IMF is questioning Bernake. Little Tim is crying wolf. Go confiscate more wealth and it want make a dent into the problem. Time to own up and be a leader.
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
6:40 pm
@Lil Barry
I am for raising the debt limit. Without meeting our contractual obligations where we can borrow money to inject into our economy, which the economic engine of the world, the Great Depression would seem like childs play.
Where do you stand?
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 24th, 2011
6:42 pm
Rightwing Troll:… as well the patient needs to undergo some lifestyle changes that Dave and his ilk are loath to admit…
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What “lifestyle changes” will help address Obozo’s obscene, unsustainable deficit spending and debt explosion?
Dave R.
April 24th, 2011
6:43 pm
Jackie: “If we do not meet our contractural obligations, we would be in default on our contracts. This would lead to worldwide economic chaos with the leading loser being the “good faith and credit of the United States”.
Really?
Freshman Republican Rep. Joe Walsh (R-Ill.) pointed to previous times Congress has voted against raising the debt limit and then approved an increase in the weeks that followed.
“Over the course of those few MONTHS (emphasis added) when the debt ceiling wasn’t raised, Armageddon didn’t hit, the government paid its bills — we’ve got enough government revenues to certainly pay, to service all of our debt, he said on CBS’s ‘Face the Nation’.”
Wow! Imagine that! We actually HAVE failed to raise our debt limit multiple times in the past – and NOTHING happened!
Facts always trump poutrage in any argument.
Tools.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 24th, 2011
6:43 pm
I agree that the debt limit must be raised, but not without putting Obozo’s massive, unsustainable, $1.5 trillion annual deficits on a glide path to balance within the next decade.
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
6:44 pm
@Lil Barry
Here is a link that will help you understand what debt limit actually means.
http://www.investorwords.com/1321/debt_limit.html
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 24th, 2011
6:45 pm
Oh, and BTW, we can meet out obligations to pay the interest on the debt without raising the debt ceiling. It wouldn’t be pretty, but if the Idiot Messiah and the Democrats don’t want to act responsibly, I am hoping that the Republicans will force responsibility onto them by denying them their continued spendfest.
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
6:46 pm
@Lil Barry
How would you balance the budget of the Federal government when there has been such a massive disruption in the job market, consequently devastating our balance of trades?
Secondly, the Federal government has to budget and meet obligations on a yearly basis whereas you and I have things we budget for over a longer term, i.e., house, car, education.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 24th, 2011
6:47 pm
Thanks Jackie, but I know what the debt limit is. I’m not a libbtard, after all.
Dave R.
April 24th, 2011
6:48 pm
“so Dr Dave R left out what else we need to do to get this patient back on it’s feet”
Actually, Troll, I’ve been CONSISTENTLY calling for cuts deeper than you can comprehend across ALL departments, including defense, and closing all loopholes and subsidies in the tax code – but NOT raising tax rates on anyone until we see what cutting does first.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 24th, 2011
6:49 pm
Jackie: How would you balance the budget of the Federal government?
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Compromise–return spending levels and tax rates back to the famed Clinton era of so-called “balanced” budgets!
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
6:49 pm
@Dave R
He may have SAID there is enough revenue to pay our yearly obligations, but, he did not say what those revenue items were.
Can you name them, give an amount and use them to balance the budget without destroying the economy?
I will give you a few moments.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 24th, 2011
6:50 pm
Dave makes an excellent point, and I’ve said the same for some time. Let’s see the spending cuts before we even begin talking about raising taxes. It’s the spending, stupid.
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
6:52 pm
@Lil Barry
Sounds good, but it does not work.
The population is larger and older, therefore, health care costs take up almost 18% of the budget by itself.
Second, during the Clinton era, there was full employment meaning revenues were greater than outlays, hence a budget surplus.
None of those things can be said today because of economic policies of the Bush era.
What do you think?
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 24th, 2011
6:54 pm
I think you should stop blaming Bush. He never proposed or ran a trillion dollar deficit.
I’d allow for raising spending by the growth in population, so that would give us, what, a $2.1 trillion budget?
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
6:55 pm
@Lil Barry
It seems that your ability to understand how the economy really works is limited.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 24th, 2011
6:55 pm
BTW, the economic policies of the Bush administration produced rising tax revenues, low unemployment for eight years, and measly $300 billion deficits.
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
6:57 pm
@Lil Barry
There must be a misunderstanding on your part.
http://www.seeingtheforest.com/archives/2010/01/cato_dont_blame_1.htm
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 24th, 2011
6:57 pm
My understanding of the economy is not NEARLY the problem that is your Idiot Messiah’s lack of ability to understand the economy.
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
6:58 pm
@Lil Barry
Another misunderstanding about tax revenus and tax cuts.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/04/20/gop-claim-that-tax-cuts-raise-revenues-rated-false/
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
6:59 pm
@Lil Barry
But Lil Barry, you keep cheerleading for all those things that have brought our country to its economic knees.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 24th, 2011
7:00 pm
Our President Bush lowered tax rates and revenues went up. There’s nothing else to understand.
IIRC, your Idiot Messiah endorsed our President Bush’s tax cuts last December.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 24th, 2011
7:01 pm
My cheerleading affects nothing. The Idiot Messiah agreeing with our President Bush on tax cuts, explain THAT.
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
7:03 pm
@Lil Barry
Did you get the link that puts that myth to rest?
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/04/20/gop-claim-that-tax-cuts-raise-revenues-rated-false/
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 24th, 2011
7:03 pm
And I am most definitely NOT cheerleading for Obozo’s increased spending, increased government interference in free markets, and destruction of the currency.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 24th, 2011
7:04 pm
President Bush lowered tax rates. Revenues went up.
Kinda hard to spin that, but I’ll give you credit for trying.
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
7:06 pm
@Lil Barry
President Obama left the Bush era tax cuts in place to try and get the so-called conservatives to go along with some of the dire emergency items needed to keep the economy from falling over the cliff. You do remember the TARP funds requested by President Bush, the GM and Chrysler bailout and the loans to most of the states to pay Unemployment Compensation?
That compromise was painfully necessary.
Dave R.
April 24th, 2011
7:06 pm
“Can you name them, give an amount and use them to balance the budget without destroying the economy?”
Don’t need to. NO ONE is talking about balancing the budget THIS YEAR. It took 40 years to get into this mess you libs created, and we aren’t getting out of it overnight.
We have between 30 and 60 days to pay interest on our current debt, and we have revenues coming in daily to this government. In fact, more come in this quarter than any other due to the wonderfulness of April 15th. So we fund for however long it takes to come to a reasonable compromise on spending cuts with existing revenues. if Congress is smart (I know, a big leap of faith there, especially given that mental midgets such as Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer are in the Senate), they understand the REAL urgency coming up 60 days after not raising the debt ceiling and make a deal.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 24th, 2011
7:07 pm
BTW, the Death Panels that both Cynthia Tucker and Jay Bookman are “cheerleading” for were rated as the “lie of the year” by your PolitiFact propoganda organization.
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 24th, 2011
7:09 pm
Uh, Jackie, TARP was passed in 2008. Your Idiot Messiah endorsed our President Bush’s tax cuts for the rich in December 2010.
And you say I don’t understand the economy? You don’t understand that 2010 occurred after 2008.
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
7:10 pm
@Dave R.
Changing the subject again?
We are not talking about balancing the budget.
YOU SAID:
“http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/04/20/gop-claim-that-tax-cuts-raise-revenues-rated-false/
Lil' Barry Bailout
April 24th, 2011
7:11 pm
Obozo promised during the election that he would end our President Bush’s tax cuts BEFORE they were scheduled to expire. Even with a Democrat dominated House and Senate, he failed to even propose it.
I wonder why?
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 24th, 2011
7:12 pm
LBB
The budget deficit for FY 2009 was Bush’s last budget. It will be the same for Obama as FY 2013 will be his last budget if he is not re-elected.
Don’t need to. NO ONE is talking about balancing the budget THIS YEAR. It took 40 years to get into this mess you libs created, and we aren’t getting out of it overnight.
Dave, you’re playing partisan again. BOTH parties are culpable for the sh*thole we’re in. I don’t think one is any more at fault than the other. They’re both trying to use their ideologies to shape the country and economy. The problem is that with advances in technology and other things, what worked then might not necessarily work now. Neither party has made an effort to update their ideologies and adapt to the world we live in now.
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
7:14 pm
@Dave R.
We are not talking about balancing the budget.
Your 6:43 uses an example of the Freshman Congress to prove that NOT raising the debt ceiling would not be harmful.
Is there something missing in your response?
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
7:16 pm
@Lil Barry
Just using the 2008 TARP funding to point out to you what a mess President Obama inhereted from President Bush.
Now, what was President Obama to do with the mess left him, send you a bill for it? RIGHT!!!
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
7:18 pm
@Dave R.
My 7:10 was due to a problem with copying and pasting your 6:43. So, don’t take that to be complete.
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
7:21 pm
@Lil Barry
President Obama’s proposal to end President Bush’s tax cuts.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/04/20/gop-claim-that-tax-cuts-raise-revenues-rated-false/
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
7:23 pm
@Dave R.
I must give it too you, practice at changing the subject has benefited you. LOL.
Dave R.
April 24th, 2011
7:24 pm
Jackie: “YOU SAID:
“http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/04/20/gop-claim-that-tax-cuts-raise-revenues-rated-false/”
Pay attention, Jackie. That was LBB.
Jackie @ 7:14: “We are not talking about balancing the budget.”
Jackie @ 6:49: “Can you name them, give an amount and use them to BALANCE THE BUDGET (emphasis added) without destroying the economy?
You must be tired, defending the defenseless all day long. May I get you a fainting couch?
Dave R.
April 24th, 2011
7:26 pm
“Dave, you’re playing partisan again. BOTH parties are culpable for the sh*thole we’re in. I don’t think one is any more at fault than the other. ”
Disagree, SoCo. While the GOP has done nothing to END the failed social engineering programs of the past 50 years, those programs were INSTITUTED by the Democrat party (with the exception of the ridiculous Medicare Prescription Drug program Bush proposed).
Bedtime for Ronnie
April 24th, 2011
7:28 pm
Tax revenues go up when a recession has ended and companies start hiring people and new industries are created, etc., and more people and companies pay taxes or when tax rates increase or when tax deductions are decreased. Tax revenues do not increase as a result of tax cuts. That is the fallacy known as the Laffer, aka, the Laugher. That is part of the voodoo economics that GW Bush’s dad was educated enough to recognize and appropriately label. That one’s not going to work again, cons. That shell game is over.
Dave R.
April 24th, 2011
7:29 pm
Bottom line, has Congress failed to raise the debt ceiling in the past?
YES. Multiple times.
Did the economy of the world destroy itself when they did?
NO. Not even close.
Take your poutrage elsewhere.
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
7:34 pm
@Dave R.
It is strange that you try to change the subject to fit your severe lack of facts. We have been discussing how your use of cuts to spending could be used to lower the debt and bring our budget in balance.
How conviently you failed to read the first sentence of the posting and used the wording “balance the budget” to make it appear that the gist of the conversation was about budget balancing.
Come now Dave, let’s not try to make this conversation about anything but the debt limit.
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
7:38 pm
@Dave R.
Can not find any evidence where the Congress of the USA failed to raise the debt limit before a 60 day time frame had elapsed.
Have any evidence of that?
Bedtime for Ronnie
April 24th, 2011
7:42 pm
It sure is a good thing that Ryan’s Plan reduces the national debt year after year in exchange for making the poor and ederly give up what little they have and so the billionaire libertarians can have a tax cut. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Republicans have gone on and on and on and on and on and on about how terrible the 14 trillion dollar debt is and how it absolutely positively must be brought down and to do that they introduce the Ryan plan that increases the national debt year after year after year.
Jackie
April 24th, 2011
7:48 pm
@Bedtime
Did the so-called conservatives get that memo about the Ryan budget disaster?
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 24th, 2011
7:50 pm
Dave @ 7:26
That’s only part of the problem. The GOP is responsible for time and time again cutting revenues i.e. tax cuts without a corresponding amount of spending cuts. I consider that irresponsible as I would not cut my own personal income without making at least equivalent amounts of cuts in my spending.
That’s why I hold both parties equally culpable for our mess.
Dave R.
April 24th, 2011
8:00 pm
Jackie, reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, is it?
Re-read the Congressman’s remarks from my 6:43 post.
Jackie: “We have been discussing how your use of cuts to spending could be used to lower the debt and bring our budget in balance.
How conviently you failed to read the first sentence of the posting and used the wording “balance the budget” to make it appear that the gist of the conversation was about budget balancing.”
Maybe I missed it, but it was YOU who have three times now brought up balancing the budget. NOT ME. Why are you so friggin’ dense?
Dave R.
April 24th, 2011
8:02 pm
“in exchange for making the poor and ederly give up what little they have and so the billionaire libertarians can have a tax cut. ”
What part of “Ryan’s plan doesn’t affect people 55 years or older right now” do you NOT get?
Dave R.
April 24th, 2011
8:03 pm
“The GOP is responsible for time and time again cutting revenues i.e. tax cuts without a corresponding amount of spending cuts.”
SoCo, I don’t disagree.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 24th, 2011
8:14 pm
SoCo, I don’t disagree.
That almost sounds like a double negative on first read. Good thing I haven’t had any beer today, or I’d be thoroughly confused by that one.