Birtherism: The monster that ate the GOP

Top Republican leaders have begun a belated effort to squash the birther theory that threatens to define their party as a bunch of lunatics, at least among those many Americans who don’t share the obsessions of the GOP base.

But I have no sympathy, because they brought this on themselves.

As far back as the 2008 campaign, the core of the Republican marketing strategy has been to discredit Barack Obama by depicting him as the much-feared “other” — an unAmerican, even anti-American, Muslim, anti-colonial socialist Kenyan, etc. The notion never really penetrated the general population, but among much of the GOP base it has grown into an article of faith, as much a sign of Republican fealty as a no-tax pledge and the adoration of Ronald Reagan. From its humble beginnings in the fertile imaginations of Orly Taitz and others, it has become the GOP’s Frankenstein, a monstrous creation that they no longer control and in fact now fear.

It has, for example, given them a nightmare called Donald Trump, who has used the birther issue to rise to near-frontrunner status among potential GOP presidential candidates. But remember, Trump did not create that sentiment; opportunist that he is, he merely tapped into what was already there. In fact, by saying outright what other GOP candidates had been coyly suggesting or hinting at, he kind of gave the game away. He made explicit what the party establishment had tried to keep implicit, and by doing so forced them to finally confront it.

But it may be too late. Just this week, a New York Times poll found that 45 percent of Republican voters profess to believe that Obama was born elsewhere; only 33 percent would admit the truth, that he was born in Hawaii. (A Fox News poll earlier this month showed similar numbers).

In Arizona, the arch-conservative governor, Jan Brewer, was forced to veto a bill this week that would have required Obama to produce his “long-form” birth certificate to get on that state’s ballot in 2012. The bill had passed the Arizona House 40-18 and the Senate 20-9.

In Louisiana, Gov. Bobby Jindal has announced he will sign such a bill if it reaches his desk. Oklahoma is about to pass such a law as well.

And here in Georgia, of course, state Rep. Mark Hatfield initially enlisted a majority of his House colleagues to sign on as cosponsors of a birther bill until saner heads prevailed. But Hatfield hasn’t given up:

“If one state passes, and the Obama administration basically ignores the requirement and does not qualify for the ballot in that state, that would send a very strong signal that we have a situation in the United States where someone who is not eligible is occupying the White House,” the Waycross Republican said this week, noting that “other states, including Georgia, have a duty to step up.” Such legislation is guaranteed to keep the issue in the political spotlight.

The point man for the GOP establishment’s effort to repudiate its illegitimate offspring has been Karl Rove, which itself is telling. Rove doesn’t have to run for anything, and he risks nothing with his unequivocal repudiation of birtherism. But party figures, including presidential hopefuls, who are dependent on the GOP base for votes don’t dare to be so blunt about the ridiculous nature of the charge.

Rove, in fact, has even tried to suggest that the whole thing is some plot against the GOP concocted by the White House, which would be very cool if true. Alas, it is not. Others on the right have demanded that the president save them from themselves by doing something, anything, that would end the debate. But why? If your opposition is self-destructing, why on earth would you come to their rescue?

Besides, nothing Obama could say or do would end this thing, as political scientist David Redlawsk of Rutgers University explains:

“The reality is that “facts” are unlikely to mean much to those who believe in their gut that Obama is not American. Political psychologists call this “motivated reasoning.” It goes something like this: I dislike someone; I learn something positive that should make me feel better about him; instead, I dislike him as much or even more. This is clearly irrational, but our feelings about people are complicated, and we tend to hold on to them even in the face of contradictory information. This is not unique to those who dislike Obama.

We are all somewhat impervious to new information, preferring the beliefs in which we are already invested. We often ignore new contradictory information, actively argue against it or discount its source, all in an effort to maintain existing evaluations. Reasoning away contradictions this way is psychologically easier than revising our feelings. In this sense, our emotions color how we perceive “facts.”….

In the case of President Obama, people who already dislike him at a gut level have little motivation to revise their beliefs, whether about his place of birth or, as we have found in other research, the persisting belief that he is Muslim. It’s not the evidence that matters. Feelings come first, and evidence is used mostly in service of those feelings. Evidence that supports what is already believed is accepted, that which contradicts it is not.

So the smart bet is that the birthplace issue, the Muslim issue, and any other ways in which Obama can be portrayed as outside the mainstream are not going away. And no amount of data to the contrary will change that for some people. The simple reality is people feel before they think. And when those feelings are strong enough, facts take a back seat.”

Having created a political movement around such “motivated reasoning” in which emotion substitutes for fact, the masterminds of the GOP now have to deal with its consequences.

It’s downright entertaining, don’t you think?

-- Jay Bookman

675 comments Add your comment

GOP Monster

April 22nd, 2011
2:14 pm

Pro-Birther is nothing new. I have always been a part of the Republican platform ever since abortion became legal. Duh. Why am I all of a sudden a big deal and in the press so much?

Logical Dude

April 22nd, 2011
2:15 pm

RB says: “The long form birth certificate, the one that says what hospital he was born in and the name of the attending physician, etc. is being hidden for some completely unknown reason.”

Well, the reason is Hawaii state law, not some mysterious “unknown reason” that you claim here.

How about giving us SOME PHYSICAL EVIDENCE THAT HE WAS NOT BORN IN HAWAII.??????

You keep harping about the “long form”, but as far as we know, it is EVIDENCE THAT OBAMA WAS BORN IN HAWAII.
I have no patience for those wanting to see the long form. I want to know why people believe that Obama was born somewhere else when there is NO EVIDENCE?

Dave R.

April 22nd, 2011
2:15 pm

“I got a kick out of the way Jay said he wished Democrats were clever enough to have planned this. As it is, Republicans did it all by themselves.”

Actually, Paul, I was reading the history on this issue on Politico.com today, and it was started and then spread by DEMOCRATS during Hillary’s run. It was even perpetuated by a 9/11 “truther”!

You can’t make this stuff up . . . :D

kevin

April 22nd, 2011
2:15 pm

UGA 1999,

he is not secretive and undocumented. he has produced a certificate of live birth, the only thing a person born in HI can produce and that is documentation.

Harry Callahan

April 22nd, 2011
2:15 pm

Logical Dude,

Obama is hiding something. I doubt it is his place of birth, but he is DEFINITELY hiding something.

UGA1999

April 22nd, 2011
2:17 pm

Harry…..I agree.

UGA1999

April 22nd, 2011
2:18 pm

Why cant the left at least admit that it is somewhat suspicious that there is really no record of his youth, his education or his finances? Come on guys just alittle?

Libertarian

April 22nd, 2011
2:18 pm

“Well, the reason is Hawaii state law”

Well, Obama should have a copy of his own long-form birth certificate, shouldn’t he?

All I know is the new book “Where’s the birth Certificate” is #1 on Amazon…so apparently a lot of folks are curious.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 22nd, 2011
2:18 pm

Here’s what we can expect at a GOP debate this year:

Mitt: I’m Mitt.
Palin: I quit
Trump: I’m full of sh*t

Harry Callahan

April 22nd, 2011
2:18 pm

“he is not secretive and undocumented”

Really? Because I’d like to know who paid for that Ivy League education. I’d like to know who is coming and going from the White House to meet with him. I’d like to know where the $1 Billion he plans to raise for his re-election is coming from.

Guess I’ll have to get in line.

JP

April 22nd, 2011
2:18 pm

Dave R. -

Yawn.

Did David Vitter step down?

TaxPayer

April 22nd, 2011
2:19 pm

If Obama had not been born, he would have snake eyes and a forked tongue, like Republicans.

Makes no sense

April 22nd, 2011
2:19 pm

So birthers don’t believe the certified certificate in HI is legit. Ok, so if states enact legislation to verify such matters themselves, you’ll all be satisfied? As if AZ or whatever state has better technology to “verify” a document? Or is it that you don’t believe HI, but will believe another state? Same argument could exist.

UGA1999

April 22nd, 2011
2:20 pm

Keep up….

Obama: I am a failure.

Left wing management

April 22nd, 2011
2:20 pm

Joe 2:12, classic denialism, calling the kettle black, whistling past the graveyard.

Harry Callahan

April 22nd, 2011
2:20 pm

“Why cant the left at least admit that it is somewhat suspicious that there is really no record of his youth, his education or his finances? Come on guys just alittle?”

Because they don’t care, just like they don’t care that Bill Clinton was a serial adulterer/sexual harasser/liar/perjurer.

To liberals, character doesn’t matter…well, except if we’re talking Newt Gingrich, in which case they think it’s ALL that matters.

USMC

April 22nd, 2011
2:20 pm

kevin

April 22nd, 2011
2:20 pm

Libertarian

April 22nd, 2011
2:18 pm

He legally cannot attain a long form copy of birth certificate just like everyone else born in HI. Why is this so hard to grasp?

JP

April 22nd, 2011
2:21 pm

So does that mean everyone born in Hawaii without their original birth certificate was born outside the US?

Logical Dude

April 22nd, 2011
2:21 pm

Harry says: Obama is hiding something

Well, DUH! and it’s not going to be found on his “long form” birth certificate. Nor will it be found on his college essays. It’s because he is President, and Presidents like that Executive Power that they are given, and it is a DIFFICULT thing to give that up once you get it.

UGA1999

April 22nd, 2011
2:21 pm

Harry….arent you forgetting the claims that Clinton was also a rapist?

larry

April 22nd, 2011
2:21 pm

I guess no one has heard about academic scholorships have they?

Paul

April 22nd, 2011
2:22 pm

Dave R

Regardless of who may have planted the seed, it found fertile ground in the imaginations of the Republican base.

And they didn’t even need fertilizer. They made their own.

Logical Dude

Good luck with your 2:11. That 2:15 is as definite an answer as you’ll likely to get.

Harry, can you help us out here? Does “I doubt” mean “I think the bulk of the evidence is that Pres Obama is not an American citizen?”

UGA1999

April 22nd, 2011
2:22 pm

Logical….honestly man….you dont think Obama and is upbringing and past are extremely secretive and hidden? This is even compared to other presidents R’s and D’s.

USMC

April 22nd, 2011
2:22 pm

UGA1999

April 22nd, 2011
2:22 pm

Larry….why is there no record of a scholarship given to Obama?

kevin

April 22nd, 2011
2:23 pm

Harry Callahan,

Regarding his education, here you go. From a news source you no doubt trust (despite sukking)

Barack Obama paid for college with student loans and the help of his grandparents .
both he and wife Michelle finished paying off their loans as recent as last year.
Here is an article from FOX NEWS!
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/09/michelle-obama-baracks-book-sales-paid-off-our-student-loans/

Harry Callahan

April 22nd, 2011
2:23 pm

Anybody want to see video of Michelle Obama calling Kenya “his home country” while discussing her husband, the president? Just click here…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M7Rp_Ghv6k

UGA1999

April 22nd, 2011
2:23 pm

USMC….AMEN!

TaxPayer

April 22nd, 2011
2:24 pm

I want to see Trump’s Long 1040 Form.

UGA1999

April 22nd, 2011
2:25 pm

Hey guys….who is Barry Soetoro???

Jefferson

April 22nd, 2011
2:25 pm

It makes the GOP look like children.

larry

April 22nd, 2011
2:26 pm

I want to see Trumps long form birth certificate. I dont believe he was born in the U.S. myself.

Kamchak

April 22nd, 2011
2:26 pm

Tick…tick…tick…. — yet again.

Logical Dude

April 22nd, 2011
2:26 pm

UGA1999
depends on how you interpret “secretive and hidden”. I’m not motivated to try to dig up every little piece of dirt on every president. I dont’ think it’s any different from other Presidents, either democrat or republican. The only difference I see is the people TRYING to dig up every little piece of dirt, and when there isn’t anything to dig up, there’s the “he must be hidding something!”
I’m MUCH more concerned about where this country is going, having a more balanced budget, having lower unemployment, and paying my own bills than trying to figure out something that really, just ISN’T THAT IMPORTANT IN DAY TO DAY MATTERS.

Harry Callahan

April 22nd, 2011
2:26 pm

“Hey guys….who is Barry Soetoro???”

He’s the guy who decided to pay homage to his Christian, Hawaiin, and American roots by changing his name to Barack Hussein Obama.

Jay

April 22nd, 2011
2:26 pm

He is your worst nightmare come to life, UGA.

Next question?

UGA1999

April 22nd, 2011
2:27 pm

TaxPayer

April 22nd, 2011
2:27 pm

Jon Kyl is offering tutoring between sessions on how to make facts disappear from the records.

Harry Callahan

April 22nd, 2011
2:27 pm

“Hey guys….who is Barry Soetoro???”

He’s the dude that befriended Bill Ayers because he’s such a fun guy to hang out with.

Joe Cool

April 22nd, 2011
2:28 pm

larry

April 22nd, 2011
2:28 pm

“Hey guys….who is Barry Soetoro???”

Didnt he play CF for the Richmond Braves in 1987 ?

UGA1999

April 22nd, 2011
2:28 pm

Logical….great job of dodging the question. But in any case he is doing a great job of destroying the country as well.

Thulsa Doom

April 22nd, 2011
2:28 pm

Logical Dude

April 22nd, 2011
1:58 pm

Thulsa,
He issued what the State of Hawaii issues. Why does ANYONE have a problem with that?

Logical dude,

That’s not my understanding. My understanding is that he has not released the full birth certificate or didn’t release it at all. I could be mistaken though since I really don’t follow the issue. Personally I don’t care since I believe he was born here and that this is a waste of time. I would just like him to release or re release the full info just so that we can all move on from this nonsense.

AmVet - A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

April 22nd, 2011
2:28 pm

UGA, it’s a big secret.

When you guys find Jimmy Hoffa’s vault, you’ll also find Barry’s long form birth certificate and my curriculum vitae, therein.

But be forewarned, it is being guarded by the former second gunman on the grassy knoll…

Harry Callahan

April 22nd, 2011
2:29 pm

“He is your worst nightmare come to life, UGA.”

That’s the absolute FUNNIEST thing about liberals. The ones who celebrate Obama the longest and loudest are going to be the ones the most screwed by the long-term effects of his policies.

kevin

April 22nd, 2011
2:29 pm

I love comments like “I am not sure what, but I KNOW he is hiding something”. I think the subtext to meaningless claims like this is something like:

I do not like Obama, he is brown, has sympathies towards brown people and maybe even Muslims, has a evil sounding middle name. So, he must be bad!

So stupid.

Velian Hill

April 22nd, 2011
2:29 pm

35% of Democrats, including former “Green Jobs Czar” Van Jones are Truthers. Truthers as you recall think Bush was knew about 9/11 attacks before it happened. Another 26% aren’t sure if Bush knew or not. In other words, a majority of Democrats think (or think it’s possible) the President of the United States allowed 3000 people to be murdered.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/bush_administration/22_believe_bush_knew_about_9_11_attacks_in_advance

Which is more ludicrous? Birtherism or Trutherism?

Harry Callahan

April 22nd, 2011
2:29 pm

“Didnt he play CF for the Richmond Braves in 1987 ?”

No, that was Brad Komminsk…

Harry Callahan

April 22nd, 2011
2:30 pm

Hey everybody, one of the libbies (kevin) just played the race card! Anybody surprised by that?

UGA1999

April 22nd, 2011
2:30 pm

OH Barry Soetoro was the false name that Obama used when he attempted to apply for Occidental College as a foreign student from Indonesia!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 22nd, 2011
2:30 pm

“His home country”….how funny from the incurable harry.

Tell NY/NJ Italian Americans born in this country that the home country is not Italy. You too could be feeding the fishes.

Paul

April 22nd, 2011
2:31 pm

“That’s the absolute FUNNIEST thing about liberals. The ones who celebrate Obama the longest and loudest are going to be the ones the most screwed by the long-term effects of his policies.”

Liberals are the small business owners and the millionaires and billionaires?!!?

Left wing management

April 22nd, 2011
2:31 pm

USMC: “Charles Krauthammer nails it on Obama’s Hyper-Liberalism Failure”

Can you say “whistling past the graveyard” ?

UGA1999

April 22nd, 2011
2:32 pm

Kevin….dont forget he is half white…..oh that must be the conservative part (good side).

Harry Callahan

April 22nd, 2011
2:32 pm

“Hey guys….who is Barry Soetoro???”

He’s the guy that sat in church every Sunday for 20 years listening to his self-described mentor, Reverend Jeremiah Wright, preaching hatred of America and of white people.

kevin

April 22nd, 2011
2:32 pm

Harry Callahan,

And what card are you playing when you question the birth of the first african american president in history, having never questioned the same of previous presidents.

Come on, man.

Gm

April 22nd, 2011
2:32 pm

UGA1999 I can say the same for you, but who wants to claim loser ville: Only a UGA idiot would make claims against Obama finance records.
I know its hard to believe at UGA that blacks can be head of the law department at their school like Obama because at UGA thats abnormal all you idiots up there are only concern, how fast blacks can run on the football field and shoot the basketball.

UGA1999

April 22nd, 2011
2:32 pm

Kevin….that has NOTHING to do with race.

UGA1999

April 22nd, 2011
2:33 pm

kevin….BTW….he is NOT African American!

Harry Callahan

April 22nd, 2011
2:33 pm

“Liberals are the small business owners and the millionaires and billionaires?!!?”

No, they’re the ones who have not accumulated wealth, and now probably never will…

kevin

April 22nd, 2011
2:33 pm

Paul

April 22nd, 2011
2:31 pm

Great post and spot on! yeah, since when did liberals become the top 3% of money earners in this country?

UGA1999

April 22nd, 2011
2:34 pm

Gm….isnt that what they are good for?

You still didnt answer my question about what school you attended. Did you make it past 6th grade before your mom put you on the corner to “sling rock”? Truth hurts eh?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 22nd, 2011
2:34 pm

O’Reilly said his show had looked into the claims about Obama’s birth certificate. Once they found the two Honolulu newspapers which announced his birth, he said he “put [the issue] to bed,” since “that is impossible to make happen” if Obama was not born in a Honolulu hospital. O’Reilly labeled Obama’s mother a “hippie,” and scoffed at the notion that there was a “sophisticated conspiracy” to smuggle Obama into the U.S. and forge his identity.

“What is he, baby Jesus?” he joked.

Libertarian

April 22nd, 2011
2:35 pm

larry

So no one who is born in Hawaii is issued a long birth certificate when they are born??

“guess no one has heard about academic scholorships have they?”

Obama said in his book he was a “mediocre” student while at Occidental…how does a “mediocre” student get a scholorship to an Ivy League college? It doesn’t add up.

Harry Callahan

April 22nd, 2011
2:35 pm

“And what card are you playing when you question the birth of the first african american president in history, having never questioned the same of previous presidents. ”

None of the previous presidents in my life time had such mysterious pasts as Obama, but I don’t want to get in the way your ability to play the race card, I know you libbies get really amped up about that.

Thulsa Doom

April 22nd, 2011
2:35 pm

“I do not like Obama, he is brown, has sympathies towards brown people and maybe even Muslims, has a evil sounding middle name. So, he must be bad!”- Kevin

Kevin,
so this is what you think other people mean. In other words its your own conjecture, assertion, interpretation, stereotype, of what you think other people think about Obama, etc Glad we got that cleared up.

Libertarian

April 22nd, 2011
2:36 pm

Wow I just watched that McDonald’s video. It is sickening.

Wade

April 22nd, 2011
2:36 pm

Truth, you crack me up. I guess your truth is relavent to your perspective. It must be fun to live in your imaginary world. Keep posting please, I need the entertainment.

TaxPayer

April 22nd, 2011
2:36 pm

HDB

April 22nd, 2011
2:37 pm

UGA1999
April 22nd, 2011
1:45 pm

Up to this point, all Presidents/Presidential candidates have basically been assumed to have followed the Constitutional requirements:

“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

Until President Obama, there has been no minority candidate that has gotten this far in the process; because of a funny name, skin color, and hysteria…..the birthers are born!! Note: no Caucasian President/Presidential candidate has had to PROVE his citizenship!!

It IS the society….it IS his race…..and it IS EVIDENT!!

Kind of funny...

April 22nd, 2011
2:37 pm

…when someone posts a link to another columnist – columnist, mind you – to “refute” Jay’s column.

Thulsa Doom

April 22nd, 2011
2:37 pm

Not a good day to be playing the race card given that given the brutality of that attack at McDonald’s today- it was horrifying.

Harry Callahan

April 22nd, 2011
2:37 pm

kevin

April 22nd, 2011
2:33 pm

Paul

April 22nd, 2011
2:31 pm

“Great post and spot on! yeah, since when did liberals become the top 3% of money earners in this country?”

LMAO at kevin and Paul…you really think the top 3% are going to passively roll over and take it up the yazoo by Obama? HINT: You don’t get to be in the top 3% be being lazy and passive.

kevin

April 22nd, 2011
2:37 pm

Libertarian,

How does a C student at Yale get into the Harvard law. Answer is George Bush Senior

Dave R.

April 22nd, 2011
2:38 pm

“He is your worst nightmare come to life, UGA.”

In so many ways, Jay. :D

Paul

April 22nd, 2011
2:38 pm

Harry

““Liberals are the small business owners and the millionaires and billionaires?!!?”

No, they’re the ones who have not accumulated wealth, and now probably never will…”

You said the liberals who most celebrate him are those who will be most negatively affected by his policies. So far, the policy that has received the most attention for a negative affect is his proposal to increase taxes on the top tier.

Now you say that is not the group who will be most negatively affected by his policies.

Who then comprises that group of liberals most negatively affected?

Harry Callahan

April 22nd, 2011
2:38 pm

Hey everybody, HDB just played hte race card!!! Anybody surprised by that?

Paul

April 22nd, 2011
2:39 pm

Harry

Reading your answer another way, are you saying the liberals who are not millionaires or billionaires are those liberals who will be most negatively affected by Pres Obama’s policies?

How?

Libertarian

April 22nd, 2011
2:39 pm

Kevin

Didn’t answer my question, did you? But I won’t dodge yours like the libs on this board dodge mine…Yes, I’m sure his father pulled strings for him to get in. Who pulled strings for Obama? Who paid?

Bose55

April 22nd, 2011
2:40 pm

That’s not my understanding. My understanding is that he has not released the full birth certificate or didn’t release it at all. I could be mistaken though since I really don’t follow the issue. Personally I don’t care since I believe he was born here and that this is a waste of time. I would just like him to release or re release the full info just so that we can all move on from this nonsense.

Thulsa

Your understanding is wrong. Go read Hawaii’s privacy laws. He has released the only copy currently obtainable from the government. He can personally go inspect the original, but inspecting it certainly is not the same as publicly displaying it. If it bothers you so much, focus on changing Hawaii’s law they implemented in 2000.

Gm

April 22nd, 2011
2:40 pm

UGA1999

Now, Now, calm down, I know you have not been out your trailer in a while, but Obama has broken the stero type image you and your bubbas at UGA are use to.

Joe Cool

April 22nd, 2011
2:40 pm

“Hey guys….who is Barry Soetoro???”

The Muslin, Kenyan, Indonesian, Marxist, Illegal Alien, Black man who outsmarted the WHOLE GOP, The Clintons, and McCain’s to win the presidency.

AMAZING AINT IT?? lol

Harry Callahan

April 22nd, 2011
2:40 pm

“Who then comprises that group of liberals most negatively affected?”

The ones at the bottom of the socio-economic scale who think Obama’s policies of punishing the rich and expanding government will ever improve the situation of those at the bottom.

Thulsa Doom

April 22nd, 2011
2:41 pm

Libertarian,

I don’t know what’s more horrifying about that McDonald’s video- the fact that all the male employees just stood by and watched the whole thing or the half hearted attempt by the manager to stop it or the pure savagery of the beating. The most gutwrenching part was watching the beaten girl go into convulsions at the end of the beating. I would be willing to bet the employees were too stupid to take down a description of the car or the car tag that the 2 women fled in.

Charles

April 22nd, 2011
2:41 pm

Just like the car commercials where the buyer replies, “Just show me the CarFax” we’d all like to see the birth certificate. Most companies now require a copy for their records to be employed in this country – why not the Commander in Chief? But Jay (as always) is following orders from the Democratic Party to attack the messenger when they know they are in the wrong (as usual).

UGA1999

April 22nd, 2011
2:41 pm

Gm…..it is “stereotype”…..Good lord!! hahaha

What “stereotype” is that? What stereotypes are there for someone who is half white and half black?

UGA1999

April 22nd, 2011
2:42 pm

HDB>>>>>hahahaha right….keep believing that!! hahahaha WE WIN!!!

Paul

April 22nd, 2011
2:42 pm

Harry

You never did answer if you thought Obama was born in the US, or is a US citizen.

kevin

Your observation is consistent with past posts.

Harry Callahan

April 22nd, 2011
2:42 pm

“Harry

Reading your answer another way, are you saying the liberals who are not millionaires or billionaires are those liberals who will be most negatively affected by Pres Obama’s policies?

How?”

Because, my economic-understanding-challenged liberal friend, in a socialist economy, those who have not already accumulated wealth will never again have a chance to accumulate wealth.

Thulsa Doom

April 22nd, 2011
2:43 pm

Bose55,

Doesn’t bother me. I could care less. I think the man was born here and that the whole thing is a waste of time. Out of control debt, unemployment, rising gas and inflation, those are far more serious concerns than his birth certificate.

Paul

April 22nd, 2011
2:43 pm

Harry 2:42

1. Was Pres Obama born in Hawaii?

2. Who comprises the group of liberals who most loudly praise Pres Obama who will most negatively be affected by his policies?

Harry Callahan

April 22nd, 2011
2:43 pm

“Harry

You never did answer if you thought Obama was born in the US, or is a US citizen. ”

I guess you were unwilling or unable to read my post @ 2:15.

Paul

April 22nd, 2011
2:44 pm

Harry

Just saw your 2:40

That’s the ‘who’ but not the ‘how.’

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 22nd, 2011
2:44 pm

Where was Charles A. Arthor born? Conspiracy!

Harry Callahan

April 22nd, 2011
2:44 pm

“Harry 2:42

1. Was Pres Obama born in Hawaii?”

Probably, but how would I know? HINT: You don’t know for sure either.

Harry Callahan

April 22nd, 2011
2:45 pm

“Harry 2:42

2. Who comprises the group of liberals who most loudly praise Pres Obama who will most negatively be affected by his policies?”

I think I’ve answered that three times now. Try to keep up.

Joe Cool

April 22nd, 2011
2:45 pm

“Not a good day to be playing the race card given that given the brutality of that attack at McDonald’s today- it was horrifying.”

Suspect in MLK Day bomb plot charged with hate crimes:
By Laura Myers Laura Myers – Thu Apr 21, 11:57 pm ET
SEATTLE (Reuters) – A reputed neo-Nazi accused of planting a backpack bomb along the parade route of a Martin Luther King Jr. Day celebration was newly charged on Thursday with committing federal hate crimes.

The latest charges against Kevin Harpham, 36, were added to a federal indictment originally returned last month in an alleged bombing attempt in Spokane, Washington, on January 17, a national holiday celebrating the birth of the slain civil rights leader.

TSK, TSK…TBAGG3RS!
Micky D’s fight or B0mbing? Wonder which one is worst………

kevin

April 22nd, 2011
2:46 pm

Libertarian,

Obama paid back student loans and had money from his grandparents. Hell, it was on Fox News even–see post from before. And, who the hell cares who paid for it anyway? How far do you think the conspiracy to make Obama president goes. Pretty soon you’re going to start telling me that Happy Hawaiian daycare gave Obama extra juice boxes to put him in an early stage of power over his fellow kindergartners.

Paul

April 22nd, 2011
2:46 pm

Harry 2:42

“Because, my economic-understanding-challenged liberal friend, in a socialist economy, those who have not already accumulated wealth will never again have a chance to accumulate wealth.”

So you are saying that under the Obama administration we have not had any new millionaires? And will not have any more millionaires?

o-kaaaay……