Birtherism: The monster that ate the GOP

Top Republican leaders have begun a belated effort to squash the birther theory that threatens to define their party as a bunch of lunatics, at least among those many Americans who don’t share the obsessions of the GOP base.

But I have no sympathy, because they brought this on themselves.

As far back as the 2008 campaign, the core of the Republican marketing strategy has been to discredit Barack Obama by depicting him as the much-feared “other” — an unAmerican, even anti-American, Muslim, anti-colonial socialist Kenyan, etc. The notion never really penetrated the general population, but among much of the GOP base it has grown into an article of faith, as much a sign of Republican fealty as a no-tax pledge and the adoration of Ronald Reagan. From its humble beginnings in the fertile imaginations of Orly Taitz and others, it has become the GOP’s Frankenstein, a monstrous creation that they no longer control and in fact now fear.

It has, for example, given them a nightmare called Donald Trump, who has used the birther issue to rise to near-frontrunner status among potential GOP presidential candidates. But remember, Trump did not create that sentiment; opportunist that he is, he merely tapped into what was already there. In fact, by saying outright what other GOP candidates had been coyly suggesting or hinting at, he kind of gave the game away. He made explicit what the party establishment had tried to keep implicit, and by doing so forced them to finally confront it.

But it may be too late. Just this week, a New York Times poll found that 45 percent of Republican voters profess to believe that Obama was born elsewhere; only 33 percent would admit the truth, that he was born in Hawaii. (A Fox News poll earlier this month showed similar numbers).

In Arizona, the arch-conservative governor, Jan Brewer, was forced to veto a bill this week that would have required Obama to produce his “long-form” birth certificate to get on that state’s ballot in 2012. The bill had passed the Arizona House 40-18 and the Senate 20-9.

In Louisiana, Gov. Bobby Jindal has announced he will sign such a bill if it reaches his desk. Oklahoma is about to pass such a law as well.

And here in Georgia, of course, state Rep. Mark Hatfield initially enlisted a majority of his House colleagues to sign on as cosponsors of a birther bill until saner heads prevailed. But Hatfield hasn’t given up:

“If one state passes, and the Obama administration basically ignores the requirement and does not qualify for the ballot in that state, that would send a very strong signal that we have a situation in the United States where someone who is not eligible is occupying the White House,” the Waycross Republican said this week, noting that “other states, including Georgia, have a duty to step up.” Such legislation is guaranteed to keep the issue in the political spotlight.

The point man for the GOP establishment’s effort to repudiate its illegitimate offspring has been Karl Rove, which itself is telling. Rove doesn’t have to run for anything, and he risks nothing with his unequivocal repudiation of birtherism. But party figures, including presidential hopefuls, who are dependent on the GOP base for votes don’t dare to be so blunt about the ridiculous nature of the charge.

Rove, in fact, has even tried to suggest that the whole thing is some plot against the GOP concocted by the White House, which would be very cool if true. Alas, it is not. Others on the right have demanded that the president save them from themselves by doing something, anything, that would end the debate. But why? If your opposition is self-destructing, why on earth would you come to their rescue?

Besides, nothing Obama could say or do would end this thing, as political scientist David Redlawsk of Rutgers University explains:

“The reality is that “facts” are unlikely to mean much to those who believe in their gut that Obama is not American. Political psychologists call this “motivated reasoning.” It goes something like this: I dislike someone; I learn something positive that should make me feel better about him; instead, I dislike him as much or even more. This is clearly irrational, but our feelings about people are complicated, and we tend to hold on to them even in the face of contradictory information. This is not unique to those who dislike Obama.

We are all somewhat impervious to new information, preferring the beliefs in which we are already invested. We often ignore new contradictory information, actively argue against it or discount its source, all in an effort to maintain existing evaluations. Reasoning away contradictions this way is psychologically easier than revising our feelings. In this sense, our emotions color how we perceive “facts.”….

In the case of President Obama, people who already dislike him at a gut level have little motivation to revise their beliefs, whether about his place of birth or, as we have found in other research, the persisting belief that he is Muslim. It’s not the evidence that matters. Feelings come first, and evidence is used mostly in service of those feelings. Evidence that supports what is already believed is accepted, that which contradicts it is not.

So the smart bet is that the birthplace issue, the Muslim issue, and any other ways in which Obama can be portrayed as outside the mainstream are not going away. And no amount of data to the contrary will change that for some people. The simple reality is people feel before they think. And when those feelings are strong enough, facts take a back seat.”

Having created a political movement around such “motivated reasoning” in which emotion substitutes for fact, the masterminds of the GOP now have to deal with its consequences.

It’s downright entertaining, don’t you think?

-- Jay Bookman

675 comments Add your comment

Truth

April 22nd, 2011
11:47 am

It seems to me that the Dems keep bringing it up… Like its their strategy to make the Reps look bad.

Jay

April 22nd, 2011
11:53 am

Yeah, the Dems made the Arizona Republicans pass that law and the Dems made 45 percent of Republicans say they thought Obama wasn’t born here and the Dems made Donald Trump into a GOP folk hero.

The Dems did it all. If only Dems were that smart.

rwcole

April 22nd, 2011
11:54 am

Yeah Truth. All those Dems like Trump, Palin, and Bachmann. And Jindal, and Barbour. Are those the Dems you’re referring to??

Midori

April 22nd, 2011
11:55 am

Jay,

you see Mike’s toon today? :lol:

Jay

April 22nd, 2011
11:58 am

Wow, Midori. Great minds and all that…

BMDPD

April 22nd, 2011
12:01 pm

Hmmm, Trump is still running off at the mouth that he found something.

USMC

April 22nd, 2011
12:02 pm

I am not a Birther and believe there are more important issues to handle.

Obama has created all of this nonsense. Just show a copy of your birth certificate, case closed.
This is what has created all of the “smoke”.

By the way Jay, you have a person posting under the name “dumbcrkr”.

Does this mean that someone else can start posting under the name of “dumbnggr”?

Yeah, I didn’t think so either because it is inappropriate. How about cleaning it up a bit.

Truth

April 22nd, 2011
12:03 pm

Just stating how it seems to me dems are always the ones that bring it up… I didnt say “dems did it all”. No need to be a jerk.

BMDPD

April 22nd, 2011
12:04 pm

“You’ll be very surprised,” he said when asked by CNN’s Ali Velshi if his investigators have found anything.

BMDPD

April 22nd, 2011
12:05 pm

I am not a birther either. I think the windbag was born in Hawaii, but I would laugh out loud for months if Trump’s team discovered otherwise!

PJ

April 22nd, 2011
12:05 pm

I love a good mystery. I can’t wait to find out who-dun-it.

Bosch

April 22nd, 2011
12:06 pm

“Just show a copy of your birth certificate, case closed.”

He has.

If this is an issue to you, you are a birther.

BMDPD

April 22nd, 2011
12:06 pm

For what it is worth I don’t think he is Muslim either (or Christian for that matter).

Midori

April 22nd, 2011
12:07 pm

Scooby Doo, where are you?

Bosch

April 22nd, 2011
12:07 pm

Hi Midori!

Mike’s toon is great!!

PJ

April 22nd, 2011
12:08 pm

Maybe we should get Charlie Chan and the Chan Clan on the case.

Midori

April 22nd, 2011
12:09 pm

Hi Bosch :)

As Jay stated — great minds ….. :)

Don't Tread

April 22nd, 2011
12:09 pm

Emotion has been substituting for fact in the Democrat “hey it feels good, let’s make it a law” Party since the Depression.

And speaking of facing consequences…the 2012 elections will be downright entertaining.

Midori

April 22nd, 2011
12:09 pm

Bosch

April 22nd, 2011
12:09 pm

BMDPD,

“For what it is worth I don’t think he is Muslim either (or Christian for that matter).”

I think, like many Americans, he doesn’t wear his religion on his sleeve — he doesn’t use that to define who he is. In my observation it’s been pretty recent where politicians do talk about religion and make it an issue as to who they are.

USMC

April 22nd, 2011
12:09 pm

“He has. If this is an issue to you, you are a birther.”

No Bosch, President Obama has NOT shown a copy of his Birth Certificate.

That is why people are making such a big fuss.

BMDPD

April 22nd, 2011
12:11 pm

No Bosch, I think he falls in line with the Joel Osteen Christians out there.

PJ

April 22nd, 2011
12:11 pm

Midori – Back at ya!

AmVet

April 22nd, 2011
12:12 pm

Considering the enormous quantity of embarrassments, scandals and debacles to plague the GOP over the past thirty years, they need these birther fools like a drowning man needs a cinder block…

Bosch

April 22nd, 2011
12:13 pm

USMC,

Okay, then, let me rephrase — his birth certificate has been authenticated and posted on-line. You just chose not to believe it.

But let me ask you this: Has any politician ever personally released their birth certificate?

Bosch

April 22nd, 2011
12:14 pm

BMDPD,

“I think he falls in line with the Joel Osteen Christians out there.”

???????

I have no idea what that means.

BMDPD

April 22nd, 2011
12:16 pm

Bosch, a quote:

Osteen has been criticized for “cotton candy” Christianity because he de-emphasizes the challenging aspects of Christianity—the sinful nature of man, God’s judgment. But while one can mock Osteen for his relentless cheerfulness, he’s the one who’s best tapped into the current national mood—“it’s all about hope”—a weariness of culture wars, and a desire to focus on God’s love rather than his wrath.

Bosch

April 22nd, 2011
12:19 pm

BMDPD,

Again, I have no idea who you are referencing, but from your quote it appears his critics are judging him (Osteen) on their own beliefs of Christianity and can not grasp the possibility that others who adhere to the same religion interpreting things differently. ???

USMC

April 22nd, 2011
12:19 pm

“But let me ask you this: Has any politician ever personally released their birth certificate?’”

Bosch, you are wrong. Obama has not released his full or complete Birth Certificate.

But once again, I don’t care.

carlosgvv

April 22nd, 2011
12:20 pm

A pundit once said something to the effect that no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people. Nowhere is this more true than in today’s politics. Republicans know this birther issue is nonsense. They also know their base has dumbed down to the point where they will believe almost anything they are told. While the 2012 election is too far off to make any real predictions, I believe it is safe to say that millions will vote against Obama just on this birther issue. And, it’s even possible a Republican may win because of it. Only in America!!!!!

Bosch

April 22nd, 2011
12:21 pm

USMC,

I’m wrong for asking you a question?

Again, has any politician ever personally released their birth certificate to the public?

USMC

April 22nd, 2011
12:21 pm

Did anyone else see this heinous hate-crime? What are they serving at McDonalds these days?

SHOCK VIDEO: ANOTHER RACIAL BEATDOWN AT MCDONALDS:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec0_1303444048

Soothsayer

April 22nd, 2011
12:22 pm

“threatens to define their party as a bunch of lunatics”

threatens! They already are the party that is a bunch of lunatics!

Soothsayer

April 22nd, 2011
12:24 pm

Vogtle nuclear reactor shutdown traced to tripped breaker

Gosh! Do you think someone spilled a large coke on the control board?

USMC

April 22nd, 2011
12:24 pm

“Okay, then, let me rephrase — his birth certificate has been authenticated and posted on-line. You just chose not to believe it.”

Bosch, you are wrong. Let’s quit beating a dead horse. You are obvioulsy highly sensitive and starting to deflect because you are arguing against the fact that Obama’s full or complete birth certificate has not been released.

But once again for the hearing impaired… I don’t care about Obama’s birth certificate.

stands for decibels

April 22nd, 2011
12:24 pm

SHOCK VIDEO:

it’s not a “shock” when you Birther Trash post it for the fourth or fifth time.

BMDPD

April 22nd, 2011
12:25 pm

Soothsayer, meet kettle. A perfect example are the idgits that protested the Owindbag’s speech with a song. Free Bradley Manning?

BMDPD

April 22nd, 2011
12:26 pm

USMC, Wow you can’t even call them libs, but you are ‘birther trash’. Ain’t it great?

Dave R.

April 22nd, 2011
12:27 pm

“Donald Trump, who has used the birther issue to rise to near-frontrunner status among potential GOP presidential candidates.”

Typical false analysis by Jay Bookman.

He has used a whole host of issues to get to near front-runner status. They only one that the dino-media (present company included) is using as important is the birther issue.

Bosch

April 22nd, 2011
12:28 pm

USMC,

I’m not the one deflecting here, I have seen his authenticated birth certificate on-line.

You however seem to be deflecting my question: has any politician that you know of personally released their birth certificate to the public?

Tommy Maddox

April 22nd, 2011
12:29 pm

AP: “[Occidental's] transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.”

Ooopie…

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 22nd, 2011
12:30 pm

Continue to make the claim all you want but Hawaiian law is clear and the State of Hawaii has made it very clear:

1. The index dated is posted on Hawaii’s websites and consists of name and sex of registrant. It is public information. This index is available for inspection.

The past Health Director of the State has stated that the Director (fukino) has 2x personally inspected and verifiied the original vital records maintined by the state and has stated that Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born citizen. Obama has posted the only form of certificate (Seciton 2,4(B) of applicable admin rules) that the State of Hawaii issues and it meets the requirement of law for a US Passport and for any legal purpose. It names his parents, place of birth, has official raised seal of office, signature of registrar, and seal of state. The release of the “long form” is not permitted. NOT even to Obama.

Most of these simple answers are found at: http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html

Birthers no longer need to be ignorant of the facts. This info has been available for some time.

Tommy Maddox

April 22nd, 2011
12:30 pm

Rats- another hoax.

stands for decibels

April 22nd, 2011
12:30 pm

He has used a whole host of issues to get to near front-runner status. They only one that the dino-media

eh, that’s a chicken and egg thing. He’s made noises about running for Preznit before. What got anyone to care about him this time around is his Birther nuttiness. Otherwise he’d be (justly) ignored, as he was in the past.

AmVet - A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

April 22nd, 2011
12:30 pm

Personally, I like the angry, vengeful Christian god that crushes everybody who displeases him.

For some light reading, check out Revelations.

(Ooops! Was that overboard for a Good Friday?)

A musical goddess covers XTC…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrueVp_kuZ8&feature=related

Soothsayer

April 22nd, 2011
12:31 pm

Dave R.

April 22nd, 2011
12:31 pm

And to all the “birthers’ out there:

Doesn’t matter if he has shown the original birth certificate or not. He came out of the womb of an American citizen, which makes him an American citizen.

Case closed. No futher proof is needed.

Got it?

Move on.

USMC

April 22nd, 2011
12:32 pm

“it’s not a “shock” when you Birther Trash post it for the fourth or fifth time.”

stands for decibels,

That’s a pretty horrible video… and “Birther Trash”? Are you kidding me?

You can do better than that. I don’t care about Obama’s lack of a full/ complete birth certificate as I stated earlier. He is already the President.

Dusty

April 22nd, 2011
12:32 pm

Birtherism: The monster that ate the GOP
by Jay Bookman

In the first place, I am conservative and don’t know anyone really interested in Obama’s birth certificate. They just think Obama is not a good president.

Doesn’t matter where he was born. What matters is the way he governs. That is truly an unhappy survey.

Keep up the usual work, Bookman. If anybody is being “eaten”, it is the confidence in Obama’s so called popularity. It isn’t there anymore, even as Democrats try to prop it up. You just can’t hide the obvious.

stands for decibels

April 22nd, 2011
12:32 pm

The past Health Director of the State has stated that the Director (fukino) has 2x personally inspected and verifiied the original vital records maintined by the state and has stated that Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born citizen.

She could offer every Birther Trash a free look and a t!t squeeze on the side and they’d still say it wasn’t legit.

Jay

April 22nd, 2011
12:32 pm

All these “Democrats” like Tommy Maddox and USMC, posting here as part of that White House conspiracy…

Dave R.

April 22nd, 2011
12:33 pm

“What got anyone to care about him this time around is his Birther nuttiness. Otherwise he’d be (justly) ignored, as he was in the past.”

Not even remotely true, stands. That’s all the media has focused on, but he has come out far more publicly this cycle on issues of substance, and has already made speeches to more organizations than in the past.

Tommy Maddox

April 22nd, 2011
12:35 pm

No – I corrected by gaff. Thanks just the same.

USMC

April 22nd, 2011
12:35 pm

“I’m not the one deflecting here, I have seen his authenticated birth certificate on-line.”

No one has seen Obama’s full/complete birth certificate except for BOSCH.
Funny:-)

And once again, I don’t care about Obama’s lack of a full/complete birth certificate.

stands for decibels

April 22nd, 2011
12:35 pm

but he has come out far more publicly this cycle on issues of substance

you mean, you agree with him now, as opposed to when he was pro-choice and pro-gay marriage and thought W was the worst president ever.

Bosch

April 22nd, 2011
12:36 pm

USMC

April 22nd, 2011
12:36 pm

“All these “Democrats” like Tommy Maddox and USMC, posting here as part of that White House conspiracy…”

Yeah that’s me, Jay:-) …. Part of the White House conspiracy…

You sound awful desperate, Jay.

stands for decibels

April 22nd, 2011
12:37 pm

I have seen his authenticated birth certificate on-line.”

No one has seen Obama’s full/complete birth certificate except for BOSCH.

the online certificate he’s referring to IS authenticated.

And if you think that Obama is deliberately hiding anything pertaining to his birth records, you’re still Birther Trash. Sorry.

Tommy Maddox

April 22nd, 2011
12:37 pm

Yep – I found that too.

Bosch

April 22nd, 2011
12:38 pm

“Doesn’t matter if he has shown the original birth certificate or not. He came out of the womb of an American citizen, which makes him an American citizen.

Case closed. No futher proof is needed.

Got it?

Move on.”

Thanks Dave — that simple fact just whizzes by most.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 22nd, 2011
12:39 pm

No one has seen Obama’s full/complete birth certificate except for:

The Hawaiian official who certified that it actually exists.

USMC, do try to keep up with reality about an issue you continue to make falseclaims about and then tell us how much you don’t care.

Bosch

April 22nd, 2011
12:39 pm

USMC,

I didn’t write that I had seen his long form birth certificate online — I wrote that I had seen his authenticated one — but yet you continue to be unable to answer my question:

Has any politician ever personally released their birth certificate to the public?

Dave R.

April 22nd, 2011
12:39 pm

“you mean, you agree with him now, as opposed to when he was pro-choice and pro-gay marriage and thought W was the worst president ever.”

Obviously, stands, you never learned the rule that trying to put words in my mouth makes you look dumber than a sack of hammers.

Never said I agreed with him. Only said he is addressing issues of substance.

You may now go back to your usual state of non-thinking.

Dave R.

April 22nd, 2011
12:41 pm

You’re welcome, Bosch!

Dave R.

April 22nd, 2011
12:42 pm

Past time to feed Bhudda. Be back in a bit.

stands for decibels

April 22nd, 2011
12:43 pm

Never said I agreed with him. Only said he is addressing issues of substance.

hmm. so you don’t find yourself more in agreement with Trump’s views on topics of “substance” than you would’ve, say, eight years ago?

(that said, I will acknowledge I should’ve had a question mark at the end of my post @ 12.35, instead of a period. and yes, I know that you are not a ‘phobe on the gay marriage issue.)

BMDPD

April 22nd, 2011
12:44 pm

Leftist, sorry.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 22nd, 2011
12:44 pm

We are all somewhat impervious to new information, preferring the beliefs in which we are already invested. We often ignore new contradictory information, actively argue against it or discount its source, all in an effort to maintain existing evaluations. Reasoning away contradictions this way is psychologically easier than revising our feelings. In this sense, our emotions color how we perceive “facts.”….

We see this exhibited daily on this website. Some situations much clearer than others.

USMC

April 22nd, 2011
12:44 pm

I guess now that Obama’s numbers are dropping drastically, the Democratic Caucus and partisan newspaper hacks start deflecting by putting out ridiculous articles like:
“Birtherism: The monster that ate the GOP”

Maybe that will take the attention off of Obama’s dismal record and drop in popularity….. NOT.

stands for decibels

April 22nd, 2011
12:45 pm

You and the rest of the leftest turds here are just plain TRASH.

No, I’m a Dirty [Bleep]ing Hippie. Get your terminology straight, buddy boy.

stands for decibels

April 22nd, 2011
12:47 pm

Obama’s numbers are dropping drastically

I love how they all got their little marching orders to talk about this, even after being told the Gallup numbers they’re referencing are merely tied with where Obama’s been before… and that the three day average is back up to 43 today.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx

Senior Citizen Kane

April 22nd, 2011
12:47 pm

I think you make too much of the Birthers and the problem they pose for the GOP, misguided though they are. Now here are some problems for Obama, courtesy of today’s NYT/CBS poll:

Just 27 percent of Americans support raising the debt limit, while 63 percent oppose raising it. Obama has a 38 percent approval rating on handling the economy and a 33 percent approval rating on handling the budget deficit. Seventy percent of Americans say the country is on the wrong track — the highest percentage since Obama first took office. Just 26 percent say it is headed in the right direction. Only 19 percent say the economy is in good condition, while 80 percent say it is in bad condition.

BMDPD

April 22nd, 2011
12:48 pm

See all, sfd just let our military know that he thinks they are trash.

Bosch

April 22nd, 2011
12:48 pm

“partisan newspaper hacks start deflecting”

Funny USMC how you would bring up deflection when you are doing it now by not answering my question.

Kamchak

April 22nd, 2011
12:48 pm

stands for decibels

April 22nd, 2011
12:48 pm

argh. fun as it is to play in the time-suck, gotta go produce. see ya, maybe, for the music thread…

Logical Dude

April 22nd, 2011
12:48 pm

I just want to know if there is ANY physical evidence that he was NOT born in Hawaii.

You know, confirmed, hard facts.
I don’t want to hear about “but he didn’t show his LONG FORM”.
That doesn’t cut it with me. I want to see PHYSICAL EVIDENCE. that he was NOT born where the evidence says he was born.

No, don’t have anything? Oh. . . Thanks for playing.

Pizzaman

April 22nd, 2011
12:51 pm

Hay USMC. My Son is a Marine. Your making the Corps look bad. Congressperson Bachmann was shown the full, long, complete, entire, raised seal document on GMA Monday morning. Her quote “that’s it”. “This is all anyone should need. It’s over.” And she was Maw Birther. Anyway, as you’ve said at least 1/2 a dozen times…..you don’t care. BTW got some beach front in AZ interested?

Tommy Maddox

April 22nd, 2011
12:51 pm

You’d think the President would show up at a news conference somewhere with the Hawaii Records Custodian, hold up the document and say “here it is all you silly people”. He does delight in ridiculing folks he disagrees with.

By not doing something this simple, he is perpetrating his own myth. Maybe it will be his October surprise.

Dusty

April 22nd, 2011
12:51 pm

Sooo… Democrats are the main ones interested in Obama’s birth certificate. They must be. They are the main ones bringing it up.

Bookman! His topic! Luckovich! His subject! Musta come up at the board meeting. Has Tucker mentioned it yet? Yep…”birthers”…soup de jour a la Democrats. Maybe there will be exciting music tonight about BIRTHERS! Songs like “You were born for me!!” or something.

I give Democrats credit for their perserverance ’specially on trifles & tripe. Read it here every day on AJC.

BMDPD

April 22nd, 2011
12:51 pm

It doesn’t matter where Owindbag was born. In my opinion, his policies are not good for our country.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 22nd, 2011
12:52 pm

Logical…… well you know Donald has investigators and you will NOT believe what they are telling the Donald about what they are finding…

Except when Trumpy wont discuss the findings or when the “report” will be coming out. Oirly is working hard on it I am sure.

Jay — can’t you call Trump a liar or something and get him to sue you for libel, then demand the info in his “investigation”. I want to see the checks.

Left wing management

April 22nd, 2011
12:52 pm

You and the rest of the leftest turds here are just plain TRASH.

No, I’m a Dirty [Bleep]ing Hippie. Get your terminology straight, buddy boy.

Yeah! And I’m a grubby handed Communist, so get with the program.

Del

April 22nd, 2011
12:54 pm

Another one of Jay’s desperation topics. Here’s Obama’s approval rating continuing to fall and Jay try’s to divert attention to the birth issue. There’s been a lot of mystery surrounding Obama not least of which is his stubborn refusal to release his long form birth certificate. His place of birth, however, is not the key concern among Independents, Republicans as well as some Democrats because over the 2 plus years of the Obama presidency it’s become clear that this is a man whose simply not suited for the job he holds. Attempting to paint the GOP as radical lunatics is just an immature, desperate and futile attempt at diverting attention away from Obama’s failures. It’s time to get this country back on track. Obama and the Democratic party haven’t shown the American public that they’re capable of doing so.

Left wing management

April 22nd, 2011
12:56 pm

BMDPD: “Pizzaman, I know pizza delivery people. And you, my turd, are making all pizza delivery people look bad.”

For a second there I thought you were going to say “I knew Pizzaman Kennedy. You’re no Pizzaman Kennedy”. Which would cause Pizzaman to melt away in disgrace.

Jay

April 22nd, 2011
12:57 pm

Cease all name-calling.

(ir)Rational

April 22nd, 2011
12:57 pm

So, just out of curiosity, why is everyone that even questions anything about Obama immediately portrayed as “crazy” by the media and others that support him? Not just on the birth certificate issue, but on most other issues as well. I personally believe that he has a birth certificate that says he was born in the US, I just think he finds it entertaining to let everyone question it and fight about it. But why is everyone crazy that questions this or any other issue? Is it because the people defending him have nothing of substance to use to defend him, so instead they must portray the accusers of being crazy, and anyone who even thinks about it then has to wonder if they are crazy as well? Can someone please explain this to me? I’m being serious by the way – I do want a real explanation from somebody on that side of the isle.

Bosch

April 22nd, 2011
12:57 pm

You’d think the President would show up at a news conference somewhere with the Hawaii Records Custodian, hold up the document and say “here it is all you silly people”.

Why should the leader of the free world acknowledge crazy conspiracy theorists?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 22nd, 2011
12:58 pm

Yeah Del is so right… its Obama and the Dems that are making Bachman, Fox and Trump push the birther issue. The real victims are once again, the Republicans.

BMDPD

April 22nd, 2011
12:58 pm

Jay, I am sorry. I don’t take to kindly to sfd calling a Marine trash. I never will.

AmVet - A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

April 22nd, 2011
12:59 pm

Seeya tonight, stands. (Hopefully)

LWM,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-7gpgXNWYI

willie lynch

April 22nd, 2011
12:59 pm

What will they do now? Oh yeah, he’s hiding his college transcript’s, he must be a marxist.

Logical Dude

April 22nd, 2011
12:59 pm

Keep says: Logical…… well you know Donald has investigators and you will NOT believe what they are telling the Donald about what they are finding

You’re right! I will NOT believe anything until I see something. Of course, even if I see something, I’ll take it under consideration of all the evidence and then make a decision.
But for now, it’s just sad watching state governments around the country try to pass legislation focused on this one issue. The Republicans evidently can’t use regular arguments against Obama, so they just try to make him ineligible to run. Pretty sad, really.

(ir)Rational

April 22nd, 2011
12:59 pm

Bosch – why are they crazy conspiracy theorists? And why shouldn’t he want to put the topic to rest once and for all? There is so much speculation and discussion about it that it detracts from real issues.

Bosch

April 22nd, 2011
1:00 pm

Irrational,

If his critics would actually criticize him on policy issues and used facts instead of things they make up, then they wouldn’t seem so crazy.

Case in point, you can call Obama a socialist, but can you actually name anything he’s done that is socialist?

Bosch

April 22nd, 2011
1:01 pm

Irrational,

Do you honestly want the POTUS to address every conspiracy theory out there about him? Did Bush address the truthers or those who claimed he didn’t serve in the ANG?

No, he didn’t, so why do you hold Obama to a different standard.

And since USMC obviously won’t answer my question, I’ll ask you:

Has any politician ever personally released his birth certificate to the public?

Doggone/GA

April 22nd, 2011
1:02 pm

“Again, has any politician ever personally released their birth certificate to the public?”

Well…the Donald in a great, triumphant moment…released his Certificate of Live Birth!

(ir)Rational

April 22nd, 2011
1:03 pm

Bosch – I don’t typically refer to him as a socialist, and I would bet that the people that do don’t fully understand the term and political/economical meanings behind it. Personally, I would call him an economic fascist, and there are plenty of things he has done to earn that title. To be fair, by the time he left office, I would have called Bush the same thing.

Also, people do criticize him on policy issues, but they are still portrayed as crazy simply because they criticize him. That’s what I’m trying to figure out. Why must I be crazy, just because I ask questions or don’t agree?

willie lynch

April 22nd, 2011
1:04 pm

Jay, turn down the volume, the noise from all these backpedalers is killing me.

BMDPD

April 22nd, 2011
1:05 pm

I will rephrase my comment.

Pizzaman, I know pizza delivery people. And you, my friend, are making all Gator fans look bad!