Atlanta school board gets the message … right?
By signing Senate Bill 79, Gov. Nathan Deal has given himself authority to suspend school board members in any district that has lost or is in serious danger of losing its accreditation.
Say, for example, a certain embattled school board in a certain capital city with a certain investigation underway involving alleged cheating by teachers and administrators?
Yup, that very one.
Deal says he hopes never to have to use that authority, and there’s no reason to doubt his sincerity. Stripping duly elected public officials of the power given them by voters ought to be a last resort, and as a rule, governors don’t like to get involved in school board politics. For those and other reasons, the legislation is a purely symbolic statement of state concern about the way the Atlanta School Board has conducted itself.
But if necessary, it could become something more. The new law, if approved by the U.S. Justice Department, would also allow Deal to appoint temporary board members to carry out the duties of those who were suspended.
Certainly, the legislation was a better option than the other idea being kicked around at the Capitol, which was to hand control of Atlanta schools to Mayor Kasim Reed. Conditions in the district are not dire enough to justify such a drastic step, and Reed, for all his ability, has enough on his plate running the city and serving as the state’s ombudsman to the Obama administration in Washington.
In fact, the mayor might have thought twice about the wisdom of extending his mandate to education after witnessing the career arc of Adrian Fenty, the young, reform-minded mayor of Washington. Elected in 2006, Fenty demanded and soon got the power to run the troubled D.C. school system, but the backlash eventually cost him re-election and perhaps a once-promising political career.
To take the parallel a step farther, the reformist reputations of Fenty and the chancellor he appointed, Michelle Rhee, have recently been called into question by evidence of widespread cheating by teachers and administrators on standardized tests in the D.C. district. Like Beverly Hall, her counterpart in Atlanta, Rhee relied heavily on those tests both as a tool in operating the system and in demonstrating progress to a skeptical public.
“Her theory seemed to be that if she pushed incentives and sanctions hard enough, the scores would rise,” education expert Diane Ravich wrote. “Her theory was right, the scores did rise, but they didn’t represent genuine learning. She incentivized desperate behavior in principals and teachers trying to save their jobs and meet their targets and comply with their boss’ demands.”
Does that seems oddly familiar?
In the end, the outcome of Atlanta’s as-yet unresolved cheating scandal and the hiring of a new superintendent this summer will have a much larger impact on the education of its students than the passing dysfunctions of its school board. In fact, the board’s reluctance to supervise Hall and to force an honest investigation into cheating allegations represented a much more important failure than its backbiting and bickering.
With the school year coming to a close, it would be nice to be able to close the books on that failure and look forward. The threatened loss of accreditation and the bill signed by the governor ought to suffice to keep the board focused. The imminent departure of Hall and the selection of a replacement offer still more opportunity to look ahead.
Unfortunately, the uncompleted state investigation — a probe that was launched last August, eight months ago now — makes that impossible. That probe was begun by the governor’s office, and its report is overdue. Investigators have suggested that criminal charges are possible, and building such cases can take time. But at this point, with educations at stake, pursuing charges is less critical than identifying the problems quickly and fixing them.
– Jay Bookman
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Doggone/GA
April 22nd, 2011
10:11 am
“it went so far beyond over the top, and for all those able bodied males to stand around and laugh, well that’s pathetic and it kinda makes me want to go beat them down… ”
It has LONG been MY opinion that spectators in a position to do something are MORE guilty than the perpatrators. You could, with a little charity, at least ascribe overriding emotions to those directly involved. The spectators have not even that tiny excuse.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 22nd, 2011
10:11 am
Bosch — my own preference is to avoid the word disabled and go with differently abled. Yeah the Neanderthals, who use the R word or its shorter version or who whine that it is the PC police, can so perform physical activities on themselves that are unlikely to be achieve. I know too many who want to label humans who may be different but more functional than some of the posters on this site, in my opinion.
The Anti-Gnostic
April 22nd, 2011
10:11 am
“a case of evolution happening faster than it’s surroundings.”
This belongs in the Seven-Day Creationist camp. Evolution cannot work that way. Environmental pressures drive the sorting for reproductive fitness–it doesn’t work the other way around.
stands for decibels
April 22nd, 2011
10:12 am
Do you have proof that Obama would end up in an orange jumpsuit, or is it just your conservative wet dream?
wrong way ‘round.
I think the typical online conservatroll dream starts with Obama in an orange jumpsuit, but he doesn’t leave it on for long…
and with that cheery observation, I’ll bid a-doody for awhile.
Peadawg
April 22nd, 2011
10:13 am
” I’ll bid a-doody for awhile.”
Don’t let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.
getalife
April 22nd, 2011
10:13 am
“Low Education White Voters Gave us The Lost Decade and the Tea Party”
http://jrichter.newsvine.com/_news/2010/02/05/3859240-low-education-white-voters-gave-us-the-lost-decade-and-the-tea-party
Owned.
Doggone/GA
April 22nd, 2011
10:14 am
“eye-for-an-eye — Isn’t that old school bible?”
The “eye for an eye” verses are a plea for MERCY…not a roadmap for revenge
Good little liberal
April 22nd, 2011
10:15 am
Left wing management
“Do I hear lurking behind this question the ridiculous conservative fable that the Democratic party is somehow responsible for racial segregation in this country?”
It’s not a fable, it’s a fact. If you look at the civil rights movement, it was against Democrats, not Republicans. And the current segregation between Black and White are education based. Which party has worked for vouchers and other methods of integrating less advantaged Black kids into better schools and which party has fought against those efforts?
Do you have a counter to this idea? Can you point out where integration was instigated by Democrats?
@@
April 22nd, 2011
10:15 am
Bosch:
As is often the case with children challenged by Autism, they must first be taught methods by which they can cope with their behaviors. Without that, their behaviors inhibit their ability to learn. Theirs is an ordered world and outside stimuli disrupts that order. They need to be instructed on how best to deal with that stimuli.
I’d love to share some stories about how they’ve taught me so that I could better teach them, but the windows won’t get done if I dally too long.
Bosch
April 22nd, 2011
10:16 am
The Anti-Gnostic,
In matters of the brain, I think there is a world of things we just don’t know or are just now discovering — and whose to say that in the case with autism,
“Environmental pressures drive the sorting for reproductive fitness”
that isn’t what is happening?
Doggone/GA
April 22nd, 2011
10:17 am
“Word of advise before you make a quote on a blog….better make sure you can back it up”
Words of ADVICE before you criticise someone else on a blog – better make sure YOU can’t be criticized (and before you say anything, both spellings – criticise and critcize – are correct)
Good little liberal
April 22nd, 2011
10:17 am
getalife
J. Richter. Now that’s funny! Would you accept anything written by Rush Limbaugh?
RL
April 22nd, 2011
10:18 am
The school board did not get the message. The teachers did not get the message.
Bosch
April 22nd, 2011
10:18 am
And I too am going out to enjoy the Easter weekend…..I’ll leave you all to it.
UGA1999
April 22nd, 2011
10:19 am
Getalife….yep it is all of those over educated black folks that will save us…..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I actually laughed outloud.
MiltonMan
April 22nd, 2011
10:19 am
APS, Clayton, DeKalb – low socio-economic areas that are heavily infested by the Demorats
North Fulton – schools that are tops in the state (no need for the social welfare programs known as “Need based scholarships” around here) & just happens to be heavy GOP areas. And now that GA has secured another house seat, this will be placed in GOP safe area (until “Rev” Lowery, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton file a frivolous lawsuit).
And to you clueless ones (aka Demorats) stating that the elections are non-partisian is always a “loophole” for you nuts.
UGA1999
April 22nd, 2011
10:21 am
Getalife…you do know what newsvine is dont you?
The Anti-Gnostic
April 22nd, 2011
10:21 am
Bosch – let me know when autistics have a higher sexual market value than non-autistics.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 22nd, 2011
10:21 am
@@
Agreed. I have a neice in college that was labeled autistic when she was young. If you met her and talked to her, you’d question why she was labeled that way. She’s sang with numerous state choruses in her home state and won so many awards, I couldn’t name them all. Her grades in school were near top of the class as well. I often say that she was misdiagnosed, but if the diagnosis was correct, she functions far and above what her peers do.
Dinkdunk
April 22nd, 2011
10:22 am
When do we get to the “blame whitey” part?
getalife
April 22nd, 2011
10:22 am
Just go to a tea party to see the uneducated cons easily led by lies on beck.
It is obvious and the gop attacks education because they need those gullible con votes.
UGA1999
April 22nd, 2011
10:22 am
Dinkdunk….have you not heard Getalife? It is hilarious!
Good little liberal
April 22nd, 2011
10:22 am
UGA1999
He had to find someone who would back up his claims. Sort of sad, really.
UGA1999
April 22nd, 2011
10:23 am
Getalife….OH NO Obama is sliding in all of the polls what are you, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton going to do?
UGA1999
April 22nd, 2011
10:23 am
Good little…..yeah I think it may be better if no one replys to him at all.
MiltonMan
April 22nd, 2011
10:25 am
getalife – typical liberal. Gets his news from a website fully owned by MSNBC & has a total of 5 subscribers & calls this news worthy.
willie lynch
April 22nd, 2011
10:27 am
As it is said, “History is written by the victorious”. Hitler also offered “science” to support his theory of a master race. We know better.
Left wing management
April 22nd, 2011
10:27 am
GLL: “Can you point out where integration was instigated by Democrats?”
Are you joking? Look, all you have to do is Google civil rights movement and find the Wikipedia. It’ll get you up to speed. The fact is that if you want to talk about segregation and the current party system, you’ll run into a brick wall, as the Democratic party itself was split over this very issue. The real issue was Southern Democrat vs Northern Democrat.
MiltonMan: “APS, Clayton, DeKalb – low socio-economic areas that are heavily infested by the Demorats”
So how do you fit into your little world view there the fact that Obama himself (a Democrat last time I checked) is continuing the policies of his predecessor in the education area? My guess is you don’t want to talk about that too much as that might cause your universe to come crashing down.
Wow, the know nothings are out in force this morning.
Go Donald Go
April 22nd, 2011
10:27 am
Atlas shrugged – the sequel…..
http://www.internetweekly.org/2011/04/cartoon_ayn_rands_atlas_barked.html
getalife
April 22nd, 2011
10:27 am
Check out the fox breakdown on their viewers.
Old, uneducated, white folks are the majority.
MiltonMan
April 22nd, 2011
10:28 am
getalife – come up to North Fulton pal. You will see plenty of the “evil rich” that are conservatives.
Just because you use free internet via the public library does not mean everyone is in the same situation as you & are cons.
UGA1999
April 22nd, 2011
10:28 am
Willie…..and?
poison pen
April 22nd, 2011
10:29 am
AmVet
April 22nd, 2011
9:06 am
Pen, as I recall you providing virtually none of those said facts in nay of your posts, you’re in the clear!
Carry on…
AmVet, obviously you have never read my posts or really have a serious problem with reading comprehension 101.
getalife
April 22nd, 2011
10:30 am
I mean, when the gop vote against the uneducated con’ Medicare and the cons still vote gop, there is little doubt about the education of said voters.
UGA1999
April 22nd, 2011
10:30 am
Getalife…..just for you…
While the educational attainment of all races increased during the 1990s, with the gap between African Americans and non-Hispanic whites decreasing, severe differences between the races remain, especially among those with a Bachelor’s degree or higher. Asian Americans had the highest educational attainment of any race, followed by whites who had a higher percentage of high school graduates but a lower percentage of college graduates. Persons identifying as Hispanic or Latino, without regard to race, had the lowest educational attainment. The gap was the largest between foreign-born Asian Americans, over half (50.1%) of whom had a Bachelor’s degree or higher and foreign-born Hispanics, 9.8% of whom had a four-year college degree. Hispanics and Latinos also trailed far behind in terms of graduating from high school; it was the only major group for which high school graduates constituted less than 80% of the population. This large inequality might partially be explained thorough the influx of uneducated foreign-born Hispanic Americans who had not been offered the chance to complete secondary education in their home country and who had not completed secondary education in the United States. Overall nearly half (49.8%) of Asian Americans, nearly a third (30%) of non-Hispanic Whites, 17.3% of non-Hispanic Blacks, and just over a tenth (11.4%) of Hispanics or Latinos had a four-year college degree. The same differences decrease significantly at the high school level with 89.4% of non-Hispanic whites, 87.6% of Asian Americans, 80.0% of African Americans, and only 57% of Hispanics or Latinos having graduated from high school.[1]
Billings
April 22nd, 2011
10:31 am
A lack of sound work ethic is what brings failure. Without it a person or student is destined to a life without rewards. Government crutches are for the lame.
The Anti-Gnostic
April 22nd, 2011
10:33 am
“So how do you fit into your little world view there the fact that Obama himself (a Democrat last time I checked) is continuing the policies of his predecessor in the education area?”
That one’s easy: George W. Bush is not what I would call a conservative Republican.
From education to immigration to government propping up asset values to foreign wars, there seems to be little difference between the two administrations.
poison pen
April 22nd, 2011
10:33 am
Damn, you guys lost and still can’t get over it. Do any of you libs work? How many of you are sticking it to your employer right now, please raise your hands. Don’t worry I know that you expect everything for free, even your wages.
getalife
April 22nd, 2011
10:34 am
MM,
“Just because you use free internet via the public library does not mean everyone is in the same situation as you & are cons.”
Low education comment to prove my point.
“evil rich”
There is your sign.
Mighty Righty
April 22nd, 2011
10:34 am
Sorry, I don’t care. We all know why the public education system in the entire country doesn’t work.
getalife
April 22nd, 2011
10:35 am
“please raise your hands.”
Another uneducated comment.
You can’t see us drop out.
Go Donald Go
April 22nd, 2011
10:37 am
Chart toppers for people who dig factual data………………….
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/our-non-exceptional-debt-and-deficit-crisis.php?ref=dcblt
jm
April 22nd, 2011
10:38 am
A. Glad the bill passed.
B. The school cheating scandals are not a sign that testing is bad. Rather, they are evidence of a corrupt system.
UGA1999
April 22nd, 2011
10:38 am
Getalife….apparently you did a great job of “dropping out” haha.
poison pen
April 22nd, 2011
10:39 am
getalife
April 22nd, 2011
10:35 am
“please raise your hands.”
Another uneducated comment.
You can’t see us drop out.
I have always heard that the truth hurts.
Midori
April 22nd, 2011
10:40 am
I see the Oppressed White Posse is in da hizzie.
Stands!!!
SpaceyG on Twitter
April 22nd, 2011
10:40 am
I’m sure there’s an essay titled *The Desperation of Women in Leadership* here somewhere.
Ponder
April 22nd, 2011
10:40 am
And yet again, my wife and I are thankful we are able to send our children to private school.
It’s a pain paying approximately $7,000 per year in property taxes and receiving very little back in services, i.e., not using the public school system; however, the benefit of “double paying” for our children’s education is well worth it!!!
getalife
April 22nd, 2011
10:41 am
The uneducated need fox and rush to do their thinking for them.
They will believe any lie and repeat it so here is my closing argument.
Half of the gop voters are birthers.
I rest my case.
UGA1999
April 22nd, 2011
10:42 am
Getalife….I have posted several links that completely destroy your arguements. You have yet to come back with a single intelligent answer. So I rest my case.
poison pen
April 22nd, 2011
10:43 am
Ponder, I think there are a lot of great public schools in our country, a lot depends on where you live.
poison pen
April 22nd, 2011
10:44 am
getalife
April 22nd, 2011
10:41 am
The uneducated need fox and rush to do their thinking for them.
They will believe any lie and repeat it so here is my closing argument.
Half of the gop voters are birthers.
I rest my case.
How many names are on your piece of paper????????????????????????
getalife
April 22nd, 2011
10:45 am
ug,
The educated know you can find something on the internet that backs up your bs.
Why are half the gop voters birthers?
Because they are uneducated and can’t think for themselves.
Question
April 22nd, 2011
10:45 am
“…identifying the problems quickly and fixing them…”.
Seems the problems are systemic. Compare similar failing or marginal school systems across the country, e.g., Atlanta, DC, other large urban settings, and I bet there are a number of factors in common…
getalife
April 22nd, 2011
10:46 am
“How many names are on your piece of paper????????????????????????”
Another example to prove my point.
poison pen
April 22nd, 2011
10:47 am
Question, Amen
justjanny
April 22nd, 2011
10:48 am
If lawyers are paid an hourly rate, of course this investigation will drag on. Wouldn’t you drag on a potentially million dollar investigation? I sure hope that these shysters, I mean, lawyers, are on a fixed fee!
Ponder
April 22nd, 2011
10:49 am
poison pen at 10:43 am
Agreed. Let me be more specific — we live in Atlanta/Fulton County.
poison pen
April 22nd, 2011
10:50 am
getalife
April 22nd, 2011
10:46 am
“How many names are on your piece of paper????????????????????????”
Another example to prove my point.
And what is your point except for it’s Bush’s fault and all Repubs are evil.
Rightwing Troll
April 22nd, 2011
10:50 am
“Do any of you libs work? How many of you are sticking it to your employer right now, please raise your hands. Don’t worry I know that you expect everything for free, even your wages.”
As the board fills up with “conservative” comments… Irony? or Hypocrisy? or both?
UGA1999
April 22nd, 2011
10:50 am
Getalife….because the Demons and black are too uneducated and scared to think on their own. I am not saying that I am a birther or not a birther but what does Obama have to hid. Why is he being so secretive? What about his college transcripts….what about the funding of his education. There are way too many questions about this guy that he refuses to answer.
poison pen
April 22nd, 2011
10:51 am
Ponder, I was born & raised in Detroit, so I really get it.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 22nd, 2011
10:51 am
Question: I bet there are a number of factors in common
Politics. Plain and simple. The area of education has become a warzone in our everyday political battles. That was not the case for previous generations. Our parents, and their parents, realized what the benefits were of having a good education, and they made sure that we had the system in place to gain that good education. Nowadays, people take that system that’s been in place for granted. It’s just considered automatic that everyone here has the same opportunity to gain the exact same education. Where we’ve failed is that we, unlike previous generations, have not maintained that system that was put in place long ago. Now, the entire spectrum of education is more political than it is education.
UGA1999
April 22nd, 2011
10:51 am
Rightwing….I am the employer…..
getalife
April 22nd, 2011
10:52 am
“we live in Atlanta/Fulton County.”
Too many cons?
The Anti-Gnostic
April 22nd, 2011
10:52 am
“Compare similar failing or marginal school systems across the country, e.g., Atlanta, DC, other large urban settings, and I bet there are a number of factors in common…”
As Sen. Moynihan wryly observed, it must be something to do with their lack of proximity to the Canadian border.
poison pen
April 22nd, 2011
10:53 am
Rightwing Troll
April 22nd, 2011
10:50 am
“Do any of you libs work? How many of you are sticking it to your employer right now, please raise your hands. Don’t worry I know that you expect everything for free, even your wages.”
As the board fills up with “conservative” comments… Irony? or Hypocrisy? or both?
Neither, retired, and you?
getalife
April 22nd, 2011
10:53 am
“because the Demons and black”
white flour!
Go Donald Go
April 22nd, 2011
10:54 am
getalife
Keep up the great work, you are relentless, the birther movement is the canary in a coal mine, these dupes are the republican party, what a tragic, real, shame…..the donald will use them and play them like a harpie///////
UGA1999
April 22nd, 2011
10:56 am
Getalife….are these the educated leftys that you were referring to?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec0_1303444048
Rightwing Troll
April 22nd, 2011
10:56 am
Self employed… been so for almost 9 years, in spite of what W did to the economy…
So it’s NOT ironic that you whine about liberals commenting on a liberal blog during work hours at about the same time it fills up with “conservative” comments (during work hours)? Or is it the usual “conservative” double standard?
poison pen
April 22nd, 2011
10:56 am
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 22nd, 2011
10:51 am
Question: I bet there are a number of factors in common
Politics. Plain and simple. The area of education has become a warzone in our everyday political battles. That was not the case for previous generations. Our parents, and their parents, realized what the benefits were of having a good education, and they made sure that we had the system in place to gain that good education. Nowadays, people take that system that’s been in place for granted. It’s just considered automatic that everyone here has the same opportunity to gain the exact same education. Where we’ve failed is that we, unlike previous generations, have not maintained that system that was put in place long ago. Now, the entire spectrum of education is more political than it is education.
SOCO, While I don’t always see eye to eye with you, this is one of your better posts and I totally agree with you, now if only we could get GetaLife to post something as good.
Left wing management
April 22nd, 2011
10:57 am
poison pen: “Damn, you guys lost and still can’t get over it. Do any of you libs work? How many of you are sticking it to your employer right now”
What’s a “lib” dude ?
So many heads full of intellectual stuffing, like thanksgiving turkeys, instead of actual thoughts.
maude
April 22nd, 2011
10:58 am
How does anyone take conservatives seriously when they want to simulataneously force women to bear children they don’t want while stripping both the mother and unwanted child of healthcare?
Midori
April 22nd, 2011
11:00 am
Getalife,
did you see Mike’s toon today?
Self_Made
April 22nd, 2011
11:01 am
I hate to show up at these things past page 2. Typical Dumb, Dumber, and Dumber-er going back and forth over crap that doesn’t even matter here. I was in the gallery during the debate on this. It nullifies elections without the due process of voter recall. It’s an end around designed by the party in power (which party is irrelevant, both parties resort to the same tacticts when they hold the gavel/executive office) to have their will done when and where they don’t hold power. Still, the Republican reps kept howling about “office holders are not entitled to their elected office”. NO, but the VOTERS are the ones who should decide whether or not they should be removed, not SACS and the Governor (even if he is acting as proxy for Kasim Reed).
UGA1999
April 22nd, 2011
11:01 am
Maude….yeah murder is so much better! hahahaah.
Dave R.
April 22nd, 2011
11:04 am
getaclue: “Why are half the gop voters birthers? Because they are uneducated and can’t think for themselves.”
Why are most libs, getaclue, and Hope & Punt ™ liars when it comes to Paul Ryan’s plan to save Medicare?
Because the only way they can make an argument against it is to lie. Politifact today gave the claim that Ryan’s plan would “kill Medicare” their lowest rating of “Pants on Fire”.
getalife
April 22nd, 2011
11:06 am
“donald will use them and play them like a harpie”
Thanks for another example to prove my point.They fell for a publicity stunt.
Midori,
Perfect toon
UGA1999
April 22nd, 2011
11:07 am
That publicity stunt is in a dead heat with Obama in the polls…..hahahah isnt it great!
getalife
April 22nd, 2011
11:07 am
dave,
“Paul Ryan’s plan to save Medicare?”
ryan’s death budget ends Medicare.
Stop lying.
getalife
April 22nd, 2011
11:08 am
“That publicity stunt is in a dead heat with Obama in the polls…..hahahah isnt it great!”
It proves my point ug.
Midori
April 22nd, 2011
11:08 am
Also Getalife – in regards to that totally awesome, gosh darnit plan of Ryan’s:
http://thinkprogress.org/2011/04/21/gop-congressmen-town-hall-backlash/
dumbcrkr
April 22nd, 2011
11:10 am
UGA1999
Can you respond intelligently to Maude’s question?
UGA1999
April 22nd, 2011
11:11 am
HAHAHA THINKPROGRESS.ORG…..yeah that is not a biased publication….keep believing the lies. Good job demons!
getalife
April 22nd, 2011
11:13 am
Midori,
I think there are no gop candidates running because of the backlash they will face.
They have to stand there and get yelled at.
Karma.
UGA1999
April 22nd, 2011
11:13 am
JAY….please ban “dumbcrkr” for obvious reasons!
Midori
April 22nd, 2011
11:14 am
why don’t you try actually WATCHING the video before ridiculing the source?
that all you got? apparently it is.
Midori
April 22nd, 2011
11:15 am
Jay – please ban UGA for even more obvious reasons.
Dana Blankenhorn
April 22nd, 2011
11:15 am
Thanks for making the connection between Harvard and Rhee. These are the most famous school reformers of the last half-decade. Rhee was held up as a model by conservatives, Harvard by many liberals.
Both cheated, because standardized tests were used as the measure of progress, and you can fake those.
The lesson is you need other measures if you’re going to judge teachers, administrators and school districts’ academic progress.
One more point. These tests were always seen as a short-cut to excellence in the No Child Left Behind law. I was taught in school that there are no short-cuts. I think most other readers were, too. So not all the blame belongs to Rhee and Harvard. We should all be looking in the mirror.
AmVet
April 22nd, 2011
11:15 am
Well, pen, we shall see.
And given that you were the one to bring up the topic of posts with no facts in them, you’re not off to a good start.
The first eight posts after your reply to me had ZERO facts in them.
Lots of opinions, insults and snarkiness, but no relevant data, information or facts.
Here let me show you how that works.
In this ranking, Georgia is 41st:
http://www.morganquitno.com/edrank.htm
Also, Georgia ranks 45th based on SAT scores and 47th based on Averaged Freshman Graduation Rate for Public High School Students.
(Those are facts.)
UGA1999
April 22nd, 2011
11:16 am
Midori….what reasons would those be? Come up chump explain.
Fletch
April 22nd, 2011
11:16 am
Keep voting Democrat! That makes 3 of 5 school boards in the metro area either dis-accreditated or under review over the last few years. You’ll notice that this doesn’t happen in heavily Republican areas…
Deal didn’t take this over for his ego or “big government hypocrisy” as some on here have claimed. He took it over because the governing body of the largest school system in his state is totally hapless.
Good little liberal
April 22nd, 2011
11:16 am
Left wing management
“The real issue was Southern Democrat vs Northern Democrat.”
The most violent race riots in the country were not in Selma Alabama, they were in South Boston and lasted for 12 years. Bedford Stivenson, NY, South Chicago, the list goes on and on. The myth that segregation was just about Southern Democrats is convenient, but absolutely untrue.
George Wallace ran for president as a democrat and made some headway in the North. Sorry, but you are the one spouting the myth.
As far as my googling to prove your point, that’s not going to happen. If you have anything that disproves what i have said, please present it. I know that you don’t like what I am saying, but so far your ability to disprove what I am saying has resulted in absolutely nothing.
So one more time: Please point out where Democrats have worked for integration in a real and concrete way such as the Republican’s efforts in school vouchers.
dumbcrkr
April 22nd, 2011
11:18 am
UGA1999
April 22nd, 2011
11:13 am
JAY….please ban “dumbcrkr” for obvious reasons!
Cry baby!
Paulo977
April 22nd, 2011
11:19 am
Mr_B
“As long as we rely on standardized testing to determine wheter or not our children have been “educated,” villanize teachers who can’t ” Well said , these are prisons we are operating NOT places where the young are nurtured and provided a stimulating climate within which to explore and discuss what makes the world go round!!!
UGA1999
April 22nd, 2011
11:22 am
Why are none of the black or white bloggers demanding a ban of dumbcrkr….come on lets talk about a double standard.
Southern Comfort (aka The Man)
April 22nd, 2011
11:22 am
poison pen
Appreciated. I just call it as I see it, and I can’t recall the educational area being anywhere near this political when I was in school, and I saw Reagan get sworn in at a school assembly. Things have changed dramatically in the past 30 years.
Dave R.
April 22nd, 2011
11:24 am
“ryan’s death budget ends Medicare. Stop lying”
Unbiased Politifact disagrees with you.
Completely.
Totally.
Good little liberal
April 22nd, 2011
11:24 am
maude
“How does anyone take conservatives seriously when they want to simulataneously force women to bear children they don’t want while stripping both the mother and unwanted child of healthcare?”
Would it be OK to kill a child up to a certain age if the child’s mother decided that she didn’t want to raise that child? Why end the mother’s relief option at birth? She may have better things to do than care for her child.
Who is striping anyone of healthcare?